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Crimean scenario of the rout of Russia

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Russia is threatened by the Crimean (East) scenario of the sample 1854-1856. As in the middle of the XIX century, Russia got into the conflict in the Middle East. Overestimated her strength and found herself in international isolation. The masters of the West formed a powerful coalition: the USA, England, France. The Western coalition is supported by the Arab monarchies, which B. Assad also stands across his throat. And our Turkish "friend" Erdogan threatens Damascus. Moreover, Turkey clearly supports the criminal regime in Kiev on the issue of Donbass and the ownership of the Crimea. Erdogan is following the path of creating a Turkish “caliphate” with the ideology of Pan-Turkism, Pan-Islamism and the new Ottomanism. The fundamental contradictions of Russia-Russia and Turkey have not gone away: this is the Syrian issue, the issue of the straits of Constantinople, the Armenian issue, the Crimean issue, and the question of domination in the Black Sea basin. Turkey claims dominance in the Turkic and Muslim regions of Russia. At the same time, Erdogan practically does not forget to develop our resources in the development of the Turkish nuclear program, supplying the Turkish market with Russian gas, penetration of Turkish goods to our market, etc.




We have no friends and allies. Serbia is defeated, Belgrade has embarked on integration into the European Union and NATO. Syria is defeated and dismembered. Her lands are trampled by invaders, including our Turkish "partners." Assad, even the Damascus region does not control everything, it is held only with the help of Iranian and Russian bayonets. Iran itself is under attack. In addition, Moscow’s previous policy, which had flirted with Western “friends” for a very long time, pushed Tehran, which used to need our support and common development programs. That is, Moscow and Tehran are only tactical allies (in some matters). In Syria, we support Assad, but here we have different interests. So, Iran is an enemy of Israel, and Jewish aviation regularly strikes at positions and warehouses of Iranian units. And for liberal Moscow, Jerusalem is a friend. In addition, Moscow and Tehran have different views on the problem of sharing and developing the resources of the Caspian.

They like to call China our “strategic ally”. But it is not. China was our ally and friend when we had our own development project, and Russia was a superpower (under Stalin). Then we were the “big brother” for the Chinese. Now the situation has changed: China has become an economic superpower. High technology in the field of space and military Beijing from the post-Soviet space deflated. China is interested in the European market and is creating the “New Silk Road”. China has captured powerful financial and economic positions in Southeast Asia, Africa and Latin America. A military expansion has begun, too cautious, but this is the case. Beijing has certain contacts with the ruling houses of England, the Windsor dynasty and the Rothschilds. Chinese dragons, with the support of part of the global elite, create their own world order, their world currency - the golden yuan. In such a scenario, Russia is just a “pipe”, a raw material appendage supplying energy resources, timber, metals, agricultural products, etc. In the long term, with the further degradation of the country and the extinction of the Russian people, China will simply take the land to the Urals. Chinese tourists are already eyeing the land of the "new China" - Baikal, huge rivers, forests, lands of Siberia, not poisoned, as in China itself.

Obviously, the recent informational blows to Moscow (the “Skrypal case”, chemical attack in Syria), increased economic pressure and military psychosis, with the preparation of an attack on Damascus, all this is a continuation of the fourth world warwhich began in 2013 year. The Western masters are reloading the matrix, continuing to build a new world order, a global non-slave civilization. The attack of Damascus is almost inevitable. The main goal is to draw Iran and Israel into a big war. Expansion of war, the zone of inferno. The US masters are still trying to destabilize Eurasia, turn it into a battlefield. To gain time for the US leap into the future, while the resources and strengths of other players will burn in the war.

Moscow can accept two losing scenarios if it continues to operate within the framework of the game of the West. Both scenarios suit Washington. First, sit in the bases and close your eyes to the beating of Damascus. With the inevitable activation of the opponents of the Assad regime. As a result, Assad overthrown. Russia will lose its legitimate reason for staying in Syria. We'll have to leave. Syria is finally divided into spheres of influence by the winners. The next will be Iran, with the connection of Israel and its project "The Great Israel" - "New Jerusalem".

Secondly, to resist, trying to save the power of B. Assad. However, given the isolation of the theater of warfare from Russia and the complete superiority of the enemy in forces and means, defeat is inevitable. The Russian air group in Syria, air defense elements, individual ships will not be able to stop a massive strike by the US and its allies. Moscow can not quickly strengthen the grouping in Syria, as Turkey easily closes the straits as a member of NATO. Tales of nuclear missile power can be forgotten. In a local conflict, Moscow will not deliver nuclear strikes on London, Paris, Washington, Ankara and Riyadh. This is the way to suicide. In addition, the Western liberals who dominate our power elite simply cannot psychologically fight the West and the world community. All their capital, property, as well as wives, children - there. West for them is "Mecca and Medina", the promised land.

A local military defeat, given the increased sanctions, further financial and economic pressure, will lead to the collapse of the Russian economy "pipe". It will be like a defeat in the Crimean War or Tsushima-2 (defeat from Japan in 1904-1905) with the activation of all the negative trends that have accumulated over three decades. In addition, Western intelligence services and the “fifth column” may well organize several man-made disasters, accidents, fires and local riots (for example, based on environmental protests) in Russia itself. Then a palace coup is possible with the coming to power of new “febras” (Westerners) (Kudrin, Shuvalov, Sobchak) already with full authority. Then there will be an attempt to “normalize relations” with the West, in essence, surrender. Delivery of Donbass, Crimea, contribution to Kiev. Further more. Trump is already proposing to disarm. However, only Russia will disarm, Washington will only make promises that will easily break.

What to do?

First, you can admit defeat and leave Syria. All the same, to defeat the gangs failed. Syria is already dismembered and partially occupied by external players. The idea of ​​the "Turkish Stream" in its original form failed. Moscow has already done this three times. We talked about the "victory" and the withdrawal of troops. True, partly and soon restored the group, even strengthened. Focus on internal issues. World distemper one way or another will continue. It is necessary to concentrate on the tasks of preserving the territory, population and culture (Russian, Russian).

After defeat in the Crimean (Eastern) War, Petersburg did just that. The Chancellor and Foreign Minister Alexander Gorchakov said: “Russia is reproached for being isolated and silent in the face of such facts that are not in harmony with either law or justice. They say that Russia is angry. Russia is not angry; Russia is concentrating. ”

Second, the we can recognize Damascus as a strategic ally, Syria as an allied state. Claim that strikes on Damascus will be considered as strikes in Russia. With all the consequences. To demand the withdrawal of all troops of the interventionists, from the territory of Syria - Turkish, American. Start a real restoration of the union state. Failure to withdraw the occupation forces, for example, Turkey, will lead to the rupture of all contacts - diplomatic and economic. Moscow can raise the issue of the status of the straits and Constantinople, the restoration of Armenia (the return of Western Armenia, which is part of Turkey), the creation of a Kurdish state, etc. Russia's tough position will force the collective West to retreat. So in the past they saved Cuba.

The second way is fraught with tough confrontation with the West with simultaneous tough mobilization, refusal to link the ruble to the petrodollar system, new industrialization, and oprichnina to eliminate the liberalism-westernism virus (Russia in the ring of enemies, the country is a military camp). Actually this is the traditional way for Russia-Russia. She lived like that for centuries. It is necessary to admit directly that we are a separate, original civilization. We have our own development path, that we are abandoning Western capitalism, consumer society and self-destruction. Our ideal is the "kingdom of truth."

There will be no big war. The nuclear missile arsenal of Russia will not allow the US and NATO to attack the country. The West is ready to intervene in Russia, but only in the conditions of a new unrest, disintegration and collapse, Westerners came to power, who will "negotiate", surrendering one position after another. In the conditions of mobilization, cleansing the country from westernism, the “fifth column”, the country - “military camp”, the West will not be able to fight. The masters of the West are not ready for a real war. They are not suicides. Western predators are ready to kill and sneer at the victim. The Western world is currently not capable of fighting how the Russians and the Germans fought during the Great War. But the hybrid, informational, and economic war will continue, as will attempts to trigger new local and regional conflicts.

In foreign policy, the main task is to oust the United States and NATO from Little Russia (Ukraine), restore the unity of Great and Little Russia, the Russian people. Denacification of Ukraine, trial of war criminals and thieves-oligarchs. Return the property and capital to public ownership. In Russia itself, nationalize large-scale industry, recognize criminal privatization and revise its outcome.

Thus, Moscow can only truly respond to the "world community" by abandoning the current vector of development as the cultural and economic periphery of European civilization, the raw "pipe" of the West and the East. Recognize the fallacy of the former vector of development. To recognize the impossibility of convergence with the West.Read more...
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  1. Vard
    Vard April 12 2018 05: 49
    +41
    Of course, in Syria, not everything is as you want ... But the backbone of the country has been saved .. There is access to the sea ... So not everything is as bad as the author of the article writes ...
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat April 12 2018 07: 55
      +30
      It’s not just “bad” there, but “hopeless” there. Syria became doomed from the very moment when Assad did not sign the “peace treaty” with the Jews. securing the annexation of the Golan Heights (and other Syrian territories) to Israel. Israel’s global plan to destroy all the major Middle Eastern states that are opposed to Israel, dividing them into hostile small enclaves is slowly but inevitably carried out and will continue to be implemented whether Russia wants it or not.
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro April 12 2018 09: 03
        +44
        You overestimate Israel. Three Russia, Iran and Turkey decide the fate of the Middle East if they find consensus. Israeli and American capabilities to shoot a dozen rockets somewhere to discharge from the discharge under the door. Infantry no territory to occupy and losses to bear
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat April 12 2018 09: 22
          +21
          His majesty the dollar is fighting for the Western world in the Middle East. The Western world can buy as many bearded soldiers as they want, train them, arm them, and, urging overseers from their armed forces, throw them into the crucible of war. And, just right, Russia and others from the one you have indicated, the three that do not have "excessive" finances, have to participate in hostilities themselves.
          1. Pissarro
            Pissarro April 12 2018 10: 21
            +22
            It's right. The only investment in barmaley is digging money in Syrian sand. Not a ride
            1. trump
              trump April 12 2018 14: 08
              +7
              Yes, the United States owes about $ 9 for warriors in the Middle East - that’s all their investment, that’s a disaster.
            2. vasya.pupkin
              vasya.pupkin April 13 2018 18: 46
              +4
              Quote: Pissarro
              It's right. The only investment in barmaley is digging money in Syrian sand. Not a ride

              That's for sure. The Abamka poured half a billion into the "armed opposition." So what? 40 /! / Warrior went to the front .....
          2. the most important
            the most important April 12 2018 15: 21
            +9
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            His majesty the dollar is fighting for the Western world in the Middle East. The Western world can buy as many bearded soldiers as they want, train them, arm them, and, urging overseers from their armed forces, throw them into the crucible of war.

            Even 100000 sheep will not be able to eat one bear. For the past 25 years, Russia has only retreated and betrayed everyone. I don’t have any particular illusions about the rulers, but if you constantly backtrack, then this is fraught ... Upstairs people are smart and understand everything. The election showed it. If real candidates were to participate in fair elections, rather than matched clowns, what would be the result? There is no turning back in power; it has so many schools. Retreat is the loss of face, the booing of leaders and the loss of power.
            1. Alber
              Alber April 13 2018 00: 46
              +4
              Quote: the most important
              Even 100000 sheep will not be able to eat one bear. Sun

              Well yes! They can’t eat. They just overwhelm him with their poop
              1. meandr51
                meandr51 April 14 2018 09: 12
                0
                Or drown in them yourself.
              2. free_flier
                free_flier April 17 2018 19: 24
                +1
                To do this, sheep need to be taught in a pyramid, and not in the whole pasture.
            2. Swag
              Swag April 21 2018 13: 03
              -2
              your slogans are rotten a month ago, calm down already, the train has left.
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            1. meandr51
              meandr51 April 14 2018 09: 16
              +4
              Justify yourself for the betrayal of Russians and Slavs. Russia is not going to make excuses to anyone. Because the truth is on our side. Our cause is just, victory will be ours. These bearded barmaleys and fat little smooth minke whales were beaten and will be beaten. A hammer with nails for the lid of their coffin is already prepared ...
              1. GUSAR
                GUSAR April 16 2018 18: 43
                -1
                Where at least have you beaten a polsatik? Beater ...
          4. Nick
            Nick April 13 2018 10: 50
            +1
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            And, just right, Russia and others from the one you have indicated, the three that do not have "excessive" finances, have to participate in hostilities themselves.

            The Syrians and Persians are fighting on the earth, and it is our advisers. Overseers in your opinion.
            Yes, bad things with the Americans
          5. zoolu350
            zoolu350 April 13 2018 17: 53
            +1
            That's right, but the green paper of your Fed owners can be opposed by the idea and the golden yuan, in addition, it is necessary to create centers of tension, near the place of your nesting (Mexico).
        2. Kars
          Kars April 12 2018 09: 35
          +18
          Let Erdogan recognize Crimea first and then credit him with 400, borrow a nuclear power plant, pull the Russian pipe at his own expense.
          1. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka April 12 2018 11: 05
            +7
            On credit? Ahahahaha. Who told you such nonsense ?!
            1. Anti-Corr.
              Anti-Corr. April 13 2018 18: 06
              -1
              Quote: AKuzenka
              On credit? Ahahahaha. Who told you such nonsense ?!

              It is a loan!
              1. RDN414
                RDN414 April 15 2018 12: 31
                +4
                Nuclear power plants are not transferred or sold to Turks. The nuclear power plant will be in Turkey and will belong to Russia. Russia will sell electricity to the Turks. They will be completely dependent on our tariffs and services. Understand for a start, and then write nonsense.
          2. Antares
            Antares April 12 2018 11: 43
            +7
            Turkey continues to support the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, does not recognize the capture of Crimea by the Russian Federation. On Monday, October 9, 2017, Turkish President Recep Erdogan said at a joint press conference with the Ukrainian head of state Petro Poroshenko, RBC-Ukraine reports.
            "Turkey continues to support the territorial integrity of Ukraine, including Crimea," Erdogan said.

            Erdogan he is not ours / not yours and not even anyone .. He is Turkish.
            And he went through the stages in the Russian information space and continues.
            Partner-friend / enemy / friend / scimitar / buddy / scimitar / enemy and others laughing
            In a word, "sculpted partner." Almost like "the best choice of the Turkish people"
          3. free_flier
            free_flier April 17 2018 19: 30
            +3
            S-400 for loot, but a little earlier than the announced time, the station was not theirs, but Rosatom, for electricity loot at tariffs, the pipe belongs to Gazprom, for gas at the set price, smoke bamboo and read a different press, not just liberals.
        3. victor50
          victor50 April 12 2018 10: 15
          0
          They will find! After the Turks still bring down some of our aircraft!
        4. andj61
          andj61 April 12 2018 14: 35
          +5
          Quote: Pissarro
          You overestimate Israel. Three Russia, Iran and Turkey decide the fate of the Middle East if they find consensus. Israeli and American capabilities to shoot a dozen rockets somewhere to discharge from the discharge under the door. Infantry no territory to occupy and losses to bear

          Can we find consensus with Turkey? Now the pro-Turkish SSA is in many ways ready to strike at the SAA after the American air strike. And according to our forces too. Erdogan himself had just kissed Putin, and now he is ready to fight with Syria. Four months ago, one could hope for the integrity of Syria, and now it’s about dismembering the country. And only the most brutal position of Russia - right up to the attacks on the Americans - can change this.
          But are we ready for a confrontation to the end? And is Syria worth it? The choice is difficult. But you have to choose between war and shame. If you make the wrong choice, in addition to shame, we also get war.
          1. Pissarro
            Pissarro April 12 2018 14: 44
            +3
            I think a consensus is possible with Turkey, since its policy, rather than other people's interests, is at the head of its policy. The main issue among the Turks is Kurdish and only a single Syria will solve it, there is agreement. Everything is exactly the same in the economy, our atom and our gas are the basis of long-term relations. By the way, the Turks have no gas, just Iran, but he is with us in the same boat.
            1. sa-ag
              sa-ag April 15 2018 07: 54
              0
              Quote: Pissarro
              The main issue among the Turks is Kurdish and only a single Syria will solve it, there is agreement.

              There was a single Syria and there was a Kurdish question, and Erdogan had to clear the north of Syria from the Kurds, because the issue was not resolved and Assad's relations with the Kurds were strained
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            1. Yakut14
              Yakut14 April 13 2018 07: 50
              +3
              And what does Transnistria have to do with it, Karabakh? And who is this “world leader”, huh? Is it not us? Do not tell, their train slowed down, and many passengers are already thinking at what stop they would get off quickly!
              1. silver169
                silver169 April 14 2018 02: 41
                +2
                The real leader of the world, this, according to the understanding of the "little fan," is of course Poroshenko. Already becoming traditional, the stupidity of narrow-baked pots often simply borders on insanity.
            2. andj61
              andj61 April 13 2018 12: 09
              +2
              Quote: Nikolai Fomenko
              Putin made the wrong choice from the very beginning, because he made a mistake in his assumptions about the reaction of the real world leader to his repeated "pranks" in Karabakh, Transnistria, Georgia, Crimea and Donbass.

              Well, now watch how your real bully the world leader is once again blown away - the first time in a confrontation with Kim, now - with Russia. yes
            3. meandr51
              meandr51 April 14 2018 09: 31
              +3
              But you, Ukrainians, made the right choice and now reap its sweet fruits ...
              No, nafig, nafig. It's not evening yet, Stalingrad is yet to come.
          3. Nick
            Nick April 13 2018 10: 57
            +1
            Quote: andj61
            If you make the wrong choice, in addition to shame, we also get war.

            That's it. Only it is not a disgrace to get off, and the author of the article, someone Samsonov does not understand this or pretends that he does not understand ... on a reimbursable basis.
        5. Vladimir 5
          Vladimir 5 April 12 2018 19: 42
          +4
          Once a strategic conversation has begun, you need to start with the main thing. In 1990, the world was redistributed after the end of World War II, that is, after the protracted complete defeat of one of the parties, it turned out to be the USSR. During the 25 years of “dancing on the bones of the USSR,” new forces quietly grew, claiming a large part of the world pie, and the US winners, accustomed to reliability, shocked and not without reason called China and the Russian Federation “revisionists” to revise the orders (winners, USA) ... Now, the case of Syria, the Russian Federation surrendered Gaddafi, the wayward servant of all the gentlemen, but decided to protest with Syria. The time is not very suitable, another ten years to strengthen the Russian Federation and China, then the conversation would have been quieter, the United States more prosperous. But time chooses, we are not the time for such events ... As long as the confrontation continues, and God forbid, it breaks out. After all, both the WWII and WWII were considered fleeting and there was no thought about big blood, and the reasons for starting a war were strange, secondary ...
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            1. silver169
              silver169 April 14 2018 02: 46
              +2
              To mumble, grunt and try to shit on the heads of everyone around you, this is just your national tradition.
            2. meandr51
              meandr51 April 14 2018 09: 33
              +1
              Kolya, have a drink on your vodka, have a snack on rancid Soviet fat and calm down. Nothing shines for you anymore.
      2. Above_name
        Above_name April 12 2018 18: 33
        +3
        Monster_Fat (Yes What Difference) Today, 07: 55

        Israel’s global plan to destroy all the major Middle Eastern states that are opposed to Israel, dividing them into hostile small enclaves is slowly but inevitably carried out and will continue to be implemented whether Russia wants it or not.


        "Israel will blow up the womb of Arab women." Y. Arafat.
      3. stan200000
        stan200000 April 12 2018 18: 55
        +8
        Just do not attribute their actions to Israel. Both Israel, and Turkey, and even Palestine - all these are just pathetic pawns in the hands of the United States. You can’t even talk about flood states. And whether Russia wants it or not, it’s a mistake. It will be as Russia wants.
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          1. Yakut14
            Yakut14 April 13 2018 07: 59
            +4
            You should not offend America by saying. that NATO is already stronger than her. Your patrons will not understand you. And the fact that the USA screwed up like North Korea and Syria is a fait accompli. It became very frightening for them to pull on our locations in Syria. And in order not to lose their face, they will grind on some unimportant outskirts of Syria. And get seriously involved, then they are very afraid!
          2. jonht
            jonht April 13 2018 08: 57
            +3
            If Russia buzzes, then the world as you know it will never be, as the FSA itself .... And if mattresses think that GDP is bluffing, then in vain. Concessions can be made, but beliefs cannot be betrayed.
            1. vasya.pupkin
              vasya.pupkin April 13 2018 18: 51
              +7
              Quote: jonht
              If Russia buzzes, then the world as you know it will never be, as the FSA itself .... And if mattresses think that GDP is bluffing, then in vain. Concessions can be made, but beliefs cannot be betrayed.

              Zhenya, and VVP has not been bluffing for a long time. Remember his recent interview with Solovyov, where he directly said: Why is peace necessary if Russia is not there ...
          3. trump
            trump April 13 2018 09: 30
            +1
            Boy, you’re probably confusing Ukraine with Russia,
            eyeball closes?
          4. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir April 13 2018 09: 47
            +2
            Quote: Nikolai Fomenko
            Of course, she can buck up, but the real consequences of this from the Russian state will not leave a trace.

            one full salvo of an underwater missile carrier and NO USA
          5. Nick
            Nick April 13 2018 11: 43
            +8
            Quote: Nikolai Fomenko
            Boy, where did you fall from? Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Russia is not a powerful opponent for the United States, or, especially, NATO. Of course, she can buck up, but the real consequences of this from the Russian state will not leave a trace.

            Your familiarity indicates a low cultural level. Therefore, your forecasts are not even worth discussing. You are simply not competent in assessing the military-political potentials of Russia and the United States. Let me remind you that the United States quite recently retreated to a small DPRK, whose population is six times smaller than Russia, and the military potential of the DPRK is an order of magnitude, if not two, less than the Russian
          6. meandr51
            meandr51 April 14 2018 09: 36
            +3
            What kind of toilet did you get out of yourself? Do you still have sewage in Zhmerynka? It flows, apparently, strongly, because it stinks of you. Pray that the "tankers of Putin" come quickly and fix it.
            1. free_flier
              free_flier April 17 2018 19: 37
              +2
              IMHO the tankers in the prison will be forced to poke around just such Zhmerins.
              It is not good for the winner to repair the zavnoprovod zatsam.
          7. Suhow
            Suhow April 15 2018 21: 47
            0
            I basically support, but not the Russian Federation, but part of its elite, and it is weak in its greed. About ours from Ukraine, I’ll be silent, corrupt and equally rotten. If the Russians can force some of their elite to at least not interfere, then the partners will get surrender, of course, there will be no new territories, but there will be respect and fears.
      4. Maz
        Maz April 14 2018 14: 56
        0
        Well, something this plan stalled in Syria. Probably - kosher was violated during the incarnation. laughing
      5. evgeny68
        evgeny68 April 14 2018 20: 02
        +2
        If it is now hopeless, then what happened when there were no Russians. Alarm article, funny, at the student level 1 course. Such a tragic picture can be written about any country in the world.
      6. Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 April 21 2018 15: 11
        0
        Israel’s global plan is such, however, the main direction of Israel to the east and south, the non-signing of the annexation of the Golan is not a reason for war, It has not signed, but is not fighting for them. So the Syrian issue is not resolved, and can be resolved in different ways.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 12 2018 10: 52
      +10
      The "point of view" of Ukraine is beyond the limits of the human mind. What can you talk about here at all? belay
      1. credo
        credo April 12 2018 13: 25
        +12

        Any point of view is of interest if it is reasoned, including by the author under the flag of Ukraine. For example, I see no sense whatsoever in the demand of some authors for Turkey and Erdogan personally for recognition of the Republic of Crimea as Russian territory. Turkey, however, does not put before Russia preconditions in the matter of economic relations on the paramount recognition of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, therefore, these issues are not raised, and the economy is developing in its own way.
        1. Nick
          Nick April 13 2018 12: 04
          +3
          Quote: credo
          Any point of view is of interest if it is reasoned,

          That's it! Argued! Unfortunately, the same author from Ukraine does not argue with her cheeky comments.
    3. trump
      trump April 12 2018 14: 04
      +6
      There is access to the sea and in general there is an exit ... I personally strongly doubt that the war in Syria will start, the Israeli ambassador to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs was called yesterday, after which there was a very unexpected call from Natanyahu Putin and some great Israeli strategist talk, that de Israel does not touch Syria but only Iranians. Most likely, Israel was warned of the extremely serious consequences of its actions in the region. Jews are likely to make the right conclusions, because they are the people of traders, stock speculators and money-lenders - they do not have thousands of years of great battles and battles.
      If you read the work of the writer Stanislav Kunyaev, then the people are prone to panic, I personally think that, of course, there are brave people among the Jews, but not very many. They will not risk the fate of their country, as the victims will be comparable to the Holocaust.
      But on the other hand, it is precisely the lack of experience of the great military and the hope for the “power” of the USA + Asian temperament that can push them to catastrophic decisions. Trump at first did not want any military - he is the restorer of the "greatness" of the United States, he realizes that the United States is no longer a great superpower, and he is unlikely to risk his stupid skyscrapers. Although they may try to figure out with Iran that a slightly different story and also with a tragic end for the West
      1. dima9990
        dima9990 April 12 2018 16: 05
        0
        The history of the state of Israel does not go very well with the word panic. Especially in the six day war. Read about these events.
        1. trump
          trump April 12 2018 16: 32
          +7
          You haven’t run into a serious opponent yet - I’m writing about your lack of serious attitude to the war — the names themselves 6 day, 3 day (or what?) War somehow do not tell me about the seriousness of the conflict, although, of course, they were war, but the war in the 70th of the last century, it seems 1974, you blew, and no decorations on Wikipedia can fix this, read the sources yourself, but not Jewish. I think that now everything will be much, much more serious in the first place for you
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis April 12 2018 21: 42
            +7
            A serious mistake was the creation of the state of Israel after the Second World War. In extreme cases, it was necessary to allocate land in Latin America. A piece of some sort of jungle selva in Brazil or Argentina. And so we got a flaming region in the center of the Mediterranean Sea - AMONG - Earth !! In the center of the earth.
            1. abvgdeika
              abvgdeika April 12 2018 22: 32
              -1
              Our land is in the center good
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis April 13 2018 08: 40
                +7
                Yes, the abscess was at the intersection of cultures and civilizations.
            2. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 April 12 2018 23: 20
              +3
              Quote: 30 vis
              it was necessary to allocate land in Latin America. A piece of some sort of jungle selva in Brazil or Argentina

              Why is there some kind of stunted selva ... negative There, in the Ussuri taiga, and so there is a pocket Israel (the capital is Birobidzhan). Places are fertile. And, most importantly - no Arabs, from the word "completely." good Only a half billion friendly smiling neighbors. laughing It would seem - live and rejoice ... So no - this fucking desert was given to them. Apparently, the rabbis completely stained the brain. And so another myth about the Jewish "seven spans in the forehead" collapsed. Well, it happens - now they have a smut and both themselves and the whole world.
            3. meandr51
              meandr51 April 14 2018 09: 39
              0
              But with the case!
            4. free_flier
              free_flier April 17 2018 19: 46
              +1
              It was they who made it flaming, the tactics are simple to disgrace - to embroil everyone and everything around, to draw into fights between friends and to cut coupons on it.
              Isn't that what Israel has been doing since its inception?
      2. Nikolai Fomenko
        Nikolai Fomenko April 13 2018 01: 59
        -1
        Slavik, sorry for such an appeal, I allow myself to express great regret about your misconception about the present situation that Israel occupies in this conflict.
        I am not a Jew, not an Israeli, but I would like my country to have the opportunity to influence the international situation in the same way as Israel does.
        1. kush62
          kush62 April 13 2018 03: 17
          +7
          Nikolay Fomenko (Nikolay Fomenko) Today, 01:59 ↑ New
          Slavik, sorry for such an appeal, I allow myself to express great regret about your misconception about the present situation that Israel occupies in this conflict.
          I am not a Jew, not an Israeli, but I would like my country to have the opportunity to influence the international situation in the same way as Israel does.

          Your country (judging by the flag) cannot even influence lard.
    4. Someone from the fleet
      Someone from the fleet April 14 2018 21: 23
      +1
      To say the least - the author is subversive propaganda in the interests of you know who ...
    5. Elena Khazova
      Elena Khazova April 16 2018 13: 22
      +2
      not just "not everything is as bad as it says"
      this article is CRITICAL CRAFTS and LIES OF LIES
      I see that author Samsonov Alexander needs to acknowledge his fallacy and leave

      LEN
  2. Moore
    Moore April 12 2018 05: 53
    +32
    Moscow can accept two losing scenarios if it continues to operate within the framework of the game of the West.

    The overestimated level of all the prose of detective.
    Secondly, to resist, trying to save B. Assad’s power. However, taking into account the isolation of the theater of operations from Russia and the complete superiority of the enemy in forces and means, defeat is inevitable.

    Yes, everything was gone again ... However, the author below calls:
    State that strikes against Damascus will be considered as strikes against Russia. With all the ensuing consequences.

    In this case, can a vanguard lesion be avoided?
    IMHO, the situation is such that surrendering or not surrendering Assad is no longer a question - there is a Great Game for the return of Russia in the 90s - to the most vile trump card.
    And because steel at our GK and MO balls , it all depends. If during the attack it is possible to inflict unacceptable damage on the "lights of democracy" (equipment, l / s), they will begin to talk with Russia, even if Khmeimim burns to the ground.
    1. savage1976
      savage1976 April 12 2018 08: 19
      +17
      I totally agree. You can lose Russia the war in Syria and even leave Syria. The question is at what cost the West will be able to achieve this victory. But I agree with the author, we played democracy, that's enough, it’s time to take care of the house.
      1. groks
        groks April 12 2018 12: 28
        +8
        It is impossible. You can’t leave. And you can’t even save the current situation. Syria should become a transit country for Qatari gas. If the pipe is not purely Gazprom's, then Europe will not need not only SP2, but also SP1.
    2. Varyag_0711
      Varyag_0711 April 12 2018 11: 02
      +18
      Moore (Andrey) Today, 05:53 New
      The overestimated level of all the prose of detective.
      And what did you expect from Samsonov with his fool the theory of the higher race of Aryan-Russians who are confused on which vector to go. But the light of mind and the giant of thought Samsonov will show us the right path. Honestly, I have long been disappointed in this author. At first it was interesting to read it, but the farther the more it becomes similar to Beck's ukromegahistory with its ancient Ukrainians.
      So, on the first lines, he climbed down to read who the author of this opus looked at, who did not begin to read beyond the first paragraph. Bullshit. Especially about the change of the vector of development, when the war is almost at full growth. It’s not a ride with Grudinin, so now they will inspire us that Putin is not going there and that we must urgently turn back, otherwise God forbid we will encounter mattresses. In general, another weather vane disguised as a "red patriot" ... negative
      1. groks
        groks April 12 2018 12: 31
        +17
        Putin is not going anywhere at all. And so for 20 years.
        And what does Grudinin have to do with it, which was needed only to create at least some interest in the elections? Otherwise, nobody could have come to Putin’s election from Putin.
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 April 12 2018 12: 45
          +26
          groks (Oleg) Today, 12:31 ↑
          Putin is not going anywhere at all. And so for 20 years.
          You do not say? Is it it that Mikhalych? So you continue to live in 1998? Is there gangster lawlessness in your city? There are no cops and they are completely powerless? Salaries and pensions do not pay half a year or more? And those who pay, pay what the enterprise produces in which you have difficulty and creak, but still work like that? How old are you? It doesn’t go anywhere ... Of course, as in the 90s we froze and got stuck, only the people, like the majority, preferred this "marking time" than going with people like you don’t know where.
          Go wash and shoot yourself around the corner, or better kill yourself with your head "abstena" ... laughing
          1. groks
            groks April 12 2018 13: 00
            +18
            Today we have an oligarchic lawlessness. The most powerful state machine, led by two supermonsters, cannot take the rights from Mary. And how did it end up with a dumbass drunk boy? And to whom did they give Yamal-LNG?
            Is it a great merit of the elite that they still agree on the fact that we will disperse them and pay something? Maybe then we will jump from the rule of law in the USA? And they have more pensions and salaries.
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 April 12 2018 13: 09
              +21
              groks (Oleg) Today, 13:00 ↑
              Today we have an oligarchic lawlessness.
              Honestly, I have neither the time nor the desire to answer your cries from the gateway. If you do not understand that all these oligarchs are the legacy of those same 90s and that Putin is not sovereign and his power is rather strictly limited by the same liberal government, then I have nothing to talk about with you. And if you want to shit, you can dig up in any country and with any system, which is what you actually do here, namely, shit digging. Then contact me; you are not deeply interested in me ... negative
              1. groks
                groks April 12 2018 13: 46
                +13
                Well, no time, well, goodbye. Here's how to protect the oligarchs - there is time, but how to answer for it, so time ends.
                If we have the top of shit, then what to dig? Well, if only to bury this shit. already more and more I want to dig these goats.
              2. Romey
                Romey April 12 2018 14: 26
                +8
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                groks (Oleg) Today, 13:00 ↑
                Today we have an oligarchic lawlessness.
                Honestly, I have neither the time nor the desire to answer your cries from the gateway. Then contact me; you are not deeply interested in me ... negative

                Of course, there is no desire and it is not interesting when the questions posed put the cheers of Putin into a dead end. request And if on the topic, then Samsonov well done. This is the first serious article in the VO, which called into question the feasibility of the Syrian adventure from all aspects: military, political and economic. Especially if you follow a pile of publications starting in the fall of the year 15, where we are continuously in one fell swoop of all the beatings. Even the embarrassment with Palmyra and the raid on Shairat did not have such an effect. Apparently, this Tsushima near Hasham made certain impressions and made many think about sacramental things and forget about mattresses that could not fight without pipipax, but remember Lenin’s words: “Learn military affairs in this way”, without ignoring strategy and operational art ...
                1. Varyag_0711
                  Varyag_0711 April 12 2018 14: 45
                  +13
                  Romei (Dmitry) Today, 14:26 ↑
                  Of course, there is no desire and it is not interesting when the questions posed put the cheers of Putin into a dead end.
                  What questions? What a dead end? Dead end in your fool liberal stupidity and this unfortunately is not treated. More precisely treated with 9 grams of lead.
                  And if on the topic, then Samsonov well done
                  Well done among the sheep. As I wrote in this thread, there was a fusion of pseudo red patriots a la Samson and liberals a la Romey. Which once again proves my theory that mattresses began to come in from the other side, namely to use the left-patriotic block. Only now all real patriots from this block broke away, only traitors Aki Grudinin and Co. with "comrades" remained. True communists have long been gone, only empty slogans and populist promises. Yes, only again the mistake came out, the people in our system are not the same, did not fall for another divorce.
                  Here you are now in unison with the "red Samsonov" sang. Honestly, it’s ridiculous to watch how the liberal-monarchist Romey and the pseudo-Bolshevik Samsonov merge in unison.
                  The circus left, the clowns remained. You can even shout until you turn blue about what a “cheer-patriot” I am here, but I’m not here for the first day and far from the first year and I see through your entire abominable brotherhood. Continue to sprinkle further, the jackal howls, and the caravan goes on.
                  1. groks
                    groks April 12 2018 14: 53
                    +9
                    Again. Decide already - if you are defending the liberals-government and the liberal-president, then probably for those who criticize them it is necessary to find another curse. Here from the side of the liberals the mattresses come in. “There is no money to raise the minimum wage”, “Let's raise the retirement age”, “Pensioners do not know how to save,” und under, under, under.
                    Are these your idols?
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              3. RedKors1953
                RedKors1953 April 12 2018 14: 55
                +4
                And who says that Putin is sovereign and Stalin was not to him and he did not have a pipe. But the desire to raise Russia was.
              4. Cossack 471
                Cossack 471 April 13 2018 20: 18
                +5
                VARYAG You gave out an interesting thought: "the power of the president is strictly limited by the government." which. by the way . he himself appointed. he is also the Supreme Commander. he only has to say a word and all those who are objectionable will go on to continue the construction of the Trans-Siberian ...
                1. Vladimir1155
                  Vladimir1155 April 21 2018 15: 24
                  +1
                  if half of the budget of the Russian Federation is exported, then exporters can influence the government and prevent the president of the Russian Federation from crushing them .... Under Stalin, whom I respect, you lived poorly, do you want to live twice as poor as now? I personally am ready, but I know that V. Putin is an experienced politician, and politician is a system of checks and balances, you can’t use his sword with it, you can chop a lot of firewood. For example, And Stalin wanted half of Hokkaido, but did not take the United States because of the tough stance, and even so important Bialystok did not take us, because he was an experienced smart politician. Most of us love Christmas and support Putin because we remember what came before him. So they loved Stalin because they remembered what was before him.
            2. staviator
              staviator April 12 2018 14: 36
              +8
              Quote: groks
              The most powerful state machine, led by two supermonsters, cannot take the rights from Mary.

              Does Lavrov need the Security Council to collect on the abolition of the rights of Mary? Or Putin personally stand with a rod? Golden youth always and everywhere lived outside the law, what we have, what’s there. And under any ruler.
              1. groks
                groks April 12 2018 14: 50
                +2
                If the entire system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is powerless, then probably it is necessary to solve at a higher level. Not?
                Lavrov? With his son-in-law? belay
            3. AleksSandro
              AleksSandro 30 August 2018 11: 37
              +1
              In fact, Mary's rights were taken away a long time ago, but the fact that she was not imprisoned for driving without a license is not a matter of "two super monstrosities", but of our moronic criminal legislation, at least half of the articles in which it is high time change, as well as excessive red tape and bureaucracy in the process of making such changes, and in the legal proceedings itself
          2. Grigory b
            Grigory b April 12 2018 14: 35
            +2
            It was possible to organize the 90s with gangster lawlessness, and then to throw a bone to the people and the people after the 90s with bone in their teeth always remembered that you can return to the 90s again at any time.
        2. VVK_VDB
          VVK_VDB April 12 2018 21: 03
          +2
          Grudinin was a real alternative, but you needed a booth with beautiful pictures - get it and sign it.
          1. groks
            groks April 12 2018 21: 09
            -1
            And what would change? Now, in contrast to the 90s, which oligarch defenders scare everyone, you can’t just play in the direction of a socially oriented state. The system is already built, you can at least choose Zyuganov, at least Zhirinovsky.
    3. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka April 12 2018 11: 07
      +1
      Okay, colleague. She will sing, she will stop, then she will sing again. He gets paid for it.
  3. Verkhomnapule
    Verkhomnapule April 12 2018 06: 44
    +20
    the whiner is liberal, from the series "Everything is gone chef! Everything is gone !!!" am
    1. groks
      groks April 12 2018 12: 33
      +13
      Let's define the terminology. With patriotic enthusiasm, you approve of all the actions of our liberal government and liberal president. At the same time, you manage to call critics of these super-liberals just liberals. Explain - how does this fit together? Liberalophrenia?
      1. SV
        SV April 12 2018 14: 53
        +2
        As for the liberal government and the Legally Elected President, here is your mistake. Look ... - The Government of the Russian Federation’s Sabotage Regarding Putin - Sergey Glazyev ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=838o5FsRmOg ... but now decide who you are with !?
        1. groks
          groks April 12 2018 15: 11
          +8
          Those. government scores on Putin? Is he nobody? Generally Putin and Shoigu and Siluanov famously mocked Putin. The first one reported that he would fulfill the instructions for 12 years (!) At 17, and the second said that he would not have enough for 17 and would fulfill at 18. Where next?
          I'm not with them - I'm not at all an oligarch to be with them.
  4. _Sergei_
    _Sergei_ April 12 2018 06: 50
    +14
    You can admit defeat and leave Syria. All the same, they failed to defeat the gangs.

    We will give Syria and we can get ready to lose the Crimea and the destruction of Donbas.
  5. Maverick1812
    Maverick1812 April 12 2018 07: 07
    +10
    The article is not about the fact that everything was lost, but rather reflections on how and what to do. And what is the author wrong about ?! Probably expressed earlier sorry for our Westerners-liberals ......
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 12 2018 07: 46
      +18
      The article is alarmist. The stupidity in it is written through a sentence. Such as the author is shot during the war so that they do not sow panic
      1. groks
        groks April 12 2018 12: 38
        +8
        Alarmist? If our country has liberalism in a chronic form, then you probably need to apply pills and planting ointments, and maybe even make injections with firing lists. And do not skip, shouting like we are all hurt.
        1. SV
          SV April 12 2018 15: 15
          +3
          "And do not skip, ..." - You are with dill - Do not confuse!
          1. groks
            groks April 12 2018 15: 40
            +2
            I do not confuse. The level of adequacy is exactly the same.
    2. credo
      credo April 12 2018 13: 37
      +1
      Quote: Maverick1812
      The article is not about the fact that everything was lost, but rather reflections on how and what to do. And what is the author wrong about ?! Probably expressed earlier sorry for our Westerners-liberals ......

      I am ready to agree with you regarding the article, BUT where did you find REFLECTIONS ON HOW AND WHAT TO DO.
      Is this something - "... Moscow may raise the issue of the status of the Straits and Constantinople, the restoration of Armenia (the return of Western Armenia, which is part of Turkey), the creation of a Kurdish state, etc. Russia's tough stance will force the collective West to retreat. saved Cuba in the past ... "
      I wonder how the Author and you personally imagine this.
      1. Maverick1812
        Maverick1812 April 12 2018 15: 20
        0
        I can imagine it sharply to myself, but I’m probably tired of hearing about "extreme concern" too ...
        1. credo
          credo April 13 2018 15: 24
          +1
          Quote: Maverick1812
          I can imagine it sharply to myself, but I’m probably tired of hearing about "extreme concern" too ...

          No, this form of indignation does not bother me personally, because it is expressed, as it should be, in a diplomatic manner, without idiomatic expressions. But the Secretary of Defense of Great Britain, instead of looking like a minister and behaving appropriately, for me personally turned into a punks for a sub-party. The level of our ministers, Lavrov or Shoigu, is not visible at all there. There we boil. Dogs bark - the caravan is on, so Russia and the citizens of Russia have absolutely no reason to drop to their level.
  6. samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 12 2018 07: 10
    +20
    The author made all the right arguments. Even a little unexpected for VO. ... But here "For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland" people will not go. There is no resemblance to the Tsar, but for most “Russians” there is no other.
    1. INTER
      INTER April 12 2018 09: 10
      +13
      Quote: samarin1969
      But here "For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland" people will not go.

      Why won't it go?
      Do you think in the Second World War the former white officers and soldiers went to fight only for Stalin?
      Any rational person knows that if they lose, millions if not entire nations in Russia will die.
      Therefore, let everyone speak for themselves.
      1. free
        free April 12 2018 09: 48
        +19
        Do you offer to fight for power grabbers so that they can continue to exploit us? Now you say that you need to fight for the Motherland! That's right, I agree! But having stood up in power, the grabbers still remained in power, the people are not so stupid that they would leave a yoke on their neck. This is how the grabbers will leave or the people will not rise. Or the bourgeois war will escalate into a class war!
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          1. Pissarro
            Pissarro April 12 2018 12: 02
            +9
            Great post, fully support
          2. free
            free April 12 2018 12: 46
            +10
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            free (Andrey) Today, 09:48 ↑ New
            Do you offer to fight for power grabbers so that they can continue to exploit us?
            Here she liberated under the red flag! I’m saying that Grudinin & Co. is a project of the US State Department. They understood that it was already useless to put on liberalists and decided to go from the other end. All the local "free", "gardamirs", "sling cutters" and other citizens who allegedly advocated the return of the great USSR, in fact, are working for the collapse of today's Russia, whatever it may be.
            And the slogan I will not go to die for the oligarchs, exactly from the same series that I will not go to fight for the commies. Not respected, you don’t go to fight for anyone at all, because you’re already fighting on the side of the enemy and you need to push in the bud.
            Alarmists and cowards should be destroyed on the spot. (Extract from order No. 227.)

            Oh, how I turned it over, well done, but only in vain! There is nothing in me from a liberal, I am for social justice against which, by the way, all liberals, in this context you are more liberal than me because you defend the possibility of oligarchs to rob the country further with foam at the mouth. blaming the betrayal to everyone who is not ready and does not want to act as cannon fodder for the interests of thieves and enemies of the people. Do you accuse me of working for enemies, explain how this is manifested? Probably that I want the oligarchs to invest in the development of our country instead of dragging them over a hill (to the enemies by the way). Or that the authorities would finally bring order to all areas without exception, that the state would finally begin to fulfill its social obligations to the population so that it would never be possible to carry out in Moscow exhibitions of banderlogs and LGBT representatives so that the state treats children and not the whole nation collects children for treatment for a penny. So that power works for the people, and not the people for power. Do you think this is work for the enemy?
            And I’ll go to fight, like many others, if necessary. I’ll only fight for the Motherland, and not for you to judge me.
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 April 12 2018 12: 58
              +11
              free (Andrey) Today, 12:46 ↑
              Oh, how he turned it over, well done, but nothing! There is nothing in me from a liberal, I am for social justice, which, by the way, is liberal, in this context you are more liberal than me because I defend the possibility of oligarchs to rob the country further with foam at my mouth.
              I just did not turn it over; I hit the point. Look, you’ve been unsubscribed below about who is hiding behind what slogans. Not respected, for a very long time I have seen with your naked eye all your miserable attempts to make yourself a "red patriot." I have already clearly described that under the guise of such "patriotism" people like you and others like you for the collapse of Russia have been working for a long time. So don’t try, you won’t convince me, I can see your vile darling through. Yes, judging by the comments, I'm not alone. You can deceive only those who have never seen anything in their life, that is, youngsters, which is what your overseas hosts are apparently calculating. For whom you work, it’s enough to simply calculate the very silly slogans you have that betray you with your head. In general, I’m working clumsily, I wouldn’t give thirty cents for such a job, but you are probably not worth it anymore!
              And to convince you of your "patriotism" and "love for Russia" after your phrases like these
              Do you offer to fight for power grabbers so that they can continue to exploit us?
              You will be a minor. This phrase tracing all liberals and enemies like Vlasov. So good luck in the field of selling the homeland, just do not forget about the fate of the same Vlasov. Not a single traitor has finished his life well. Vlasov on the hangar, Berezovsky on a scarf, Litvinenko don’t understand why ... Sooner or later, but you and everyone else will suffer the same fate that I sincerely wish you!
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                  1. free
                    free April 12 2018 13: 34
                    +8
                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    free (Andrey) Today, 13:18 ↑
                    I’m not going to convince you of anything stubborn, continue to scribble life and the people will judge us.
                    The people have already judged us on March 18, 2018! It’s your fate to be in life suffering and losing, and therefore the people are not with you and will never be with you.
                    And at the expense of life, you wouldn’t have sworn, but you never know what happens, to whom a brick falls on your head, to whom an ice ax accidentally flies, and to whom is a box of chocolates with clockwork and TNT charge ... Methods, they are different but, as practice shows, in most cases traitors are destroyed precisely by those to whom these traitors went over, Skripal to help you ... laughing

                    So will you yap or start biting?
                  2. Maverick1812
                    Maverick1812 April 12 2018 15: 25
                    +8
                    Fuck there people judged March 18 ..... bullshit! So cool here all laid out on the shelves. Whose will you be? Shuvalov’s, Millerov’s, Rotenberg’s, or what kind of “dealers”?
                2. Норд
                  Норд April 12 2018 16: 38
                  +12
                  So it itches to ask Mr. Free: "And where are you, in fact, in the comments of the Varangian you found some fuss ???" Just before the gnashing of teeth, adequate people are tired of your nagging and whining. And it’s obviously not up to you to argue about venality.
              2. free
                free April 14 2018 10: 11
                +1
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                free (Andrey) Today, 12:46 ↑
                Oh, how he turned it over, well done, but nothing! There is nothing in me from a liberal, I am for social justice, which, by the way, is liberal, in this context you are more liberal than me because I defend the possibility of oligarchs to rob the country further with foam at my mouth.
                I just did not turn it over; I hit the point. Look, you’ve been unsubscribed below about who is hiding behind what slogans. Not respected, for a very long time I have seen with your naked eye all your miserable attempts to make yourself a "red patriot." I have already clearly described that under the guise of such "patriotism" people like you and others like you for the collapse of Russia have been working for a long time. So don’t try, you won’t convince me, I can see your vile darling through. Yes, judging by the comments, I'm not alone. You can deceive only those who have never seen anything in their life, that is, youngsters, which is what your overseas hosts are apparently calculating. For whom you work, it’s enough to simply calculate the very silly slogans you have that betray you with your head. In general, I’m working clumsily, I wouldn’t give thirty cents for such a job, but you are probably not worth it anymore!
                And to convince you of your "patriotism" and "love for Russia" after your phrases like these
                Do you offer to fight for power grabbers so that they can continue to exploit us?
                You will be a minor. This phrase tracing all liberals and enemies like Vlasov. So good luck in the field of selling the homeland, just do not forget about the fate of the same Vlasov. Not a single traitor has finished his life well. Vlasov on the hangar, Berezovsky on a scarf, Litvinenko don’t understand why ... Sooner or later, but you and everyone else will suffer the same fate that I sincerely wish you!

                Why did you buddy delete your comments? And how you did it, they didn’t help otherwise! And the administration writes me warnings for your words!? (They didn’t see or didn’t want to see) Sing the chick, don’t be ashamed, tell us all who as!
          3. groks
            groks April 12 2018 12: 54
            +6
            Grudinin is a Kremlin project. To make it even interesting to go to show elections. And they could have scored this thing at all.
            Our authorities work for the collapse and even for the Maidan. It’s they who hang the boards with ghouls, and then call us all cattle. Or was it the State Department? It was they who brought the ruble to complete dependence on the same State Department.
          4. kotvov
            kotvov April 12 2018 13: 44
            +1
            you don’t go at all, neither for Putin nor for the Communists. definitely only for the winner. while Putin is on a horse, you will be for him as they shove, you will be for the one who shoves. you are blind and this is your main misfortune. - he won’t last long.
            1. groks
              groks April 12 2018 14: 56
              +1
              I took the ballot - I don’t want to choose from different grades of shit. Putting Putin off, under the current system, cannot be better or worse than Putin.
        2. PV KGB of the USSR
          PV KGB of the USSR April 12 2018 12: 41
          +15
          Do you offer to fight for power grabbers so that they can continue to exploit us? Now you say that you need to fight for the Motherland! That's right, I agree! But after standing in power in the war, grabbers still remained, the people are not so stupid as to leave a yoke on their neck.

          There were no Vlasovites in the family ??? They also hid behind the fact that they did not want to fight for the Bolsheviks, and the Germans would then give them their homeland on a silver platter! WITHOUT THE DIFFERENCE WHO IS AT AUTHORITY! HOMELAND ONE AND OPTIONS FORGING BACK NO! Either defend, or you are a traitor!
          1. groks
            groks April 12 2018 15: 00
            +3
            WITHOUT THE DIFFERENCE WHO IS AT AUTHORITY! HOMELAND ONE AND OPTIONS FORGING BACK NO!
            Even if those in power are destroying this homeland? And how are they better than amers? This is precisely the Vlasovites and traitors.
            1. bubelik
              bubelik April 12 2018 17: 49
              +2
              Let’s make it clear: What do you propose in this situation? Throw off Putin?
              1. groks
                groks April 12 2018 19: 50
                +2
                What for? The next one will come the same. Once you have plunged into this capitalism, you will have to act within its framework. Press on the authorities until they begin to work. Work in our interests, not in the interests of the West. There are so many supporters of Putin, but what initiative! Let them persuade him to fulfill what was promised in 20 years. Can not? They impeach. The next one is at least Bulk, at least even Obama. No positive results are visible - to a hair dryer.
            2. Vladimir1155
              Vladimir1155 April 21 2018 15: 33
              +1
              Compare the 90s and now, poverty is lower, roads are better, salaries are from 50000 rubles, everything is in stores ... support motherhood and childhood, the Army is rearming, new nuclear submarines, airplanes, ...... "and people grumbled and grumbled ".... there are problems, and I see them, but the main problem solved by Putin, 1 war in Chechnya, 2 return of oil and gas revenues in the Russian Federation, 3 equidistance oligarchs and 4 reunification of Crimea .... that's why they hate him enemies of the Russian people, traitors, Judah, liberalists and all kinds of trash gateway
          2. free
            free April 14 2018 10: 01
            0
            Quote: PV KGB of the USSR
            Do you offer to fight for power grabbers so that they can continue to exploit us? Now you say that you need to fight for the Motherland! That's right, I agree! But after standing in power in the war, grabbers still remained, the people are not so stupid as to leave a yoke on their neck.

            There were no Vlasovites in the family ??? They also hid behind the fact that they did not want to fight for the Bolsheviks, and the Germans would then give them their homeland on a silver platter! WITHOUT THE DIFFERENCE WHO IS AT AUTHORITY! HOMELAND ONE AND OPTIONS FORGING BACK NO! Either defend, or you are a traitor!

            Did I say that you do not need to defend your homeland? You need to read carefully!
        3. INTER
          INTER April 12 2018 12: 47
          +8
          Quote: free
          Do you offer to fight for power grabbers so that they can continue to exploit us?

          I don’t offer anything to anyone, if necessary, I will protect my family’s land and homeland and I don’t give a damn about all grabbers, I will fulfill the duty assigned to me as the head of the family at the right time.
          And what do you suggest, surrender if enemy tanks roll around the window ????
          Everyone has their own choice. As the GDP said: "It is better to be hanged for loyalty than to be shot for betrayal."
          1. groks
            groks April 12 2018 15: 02
            +1
            A family? Those. the country does not care, the rest of the people do not care? Proven - this is a loss.
            And what if the tanks ride not strangers, but their own? Reform Serdyukovskaya, pumping WG talk a lot.
            1. INTER
              INTER April 12 2018 16: 47
              +2
              Quote: groks
              A family? Those. the country does not care, the rest of the people do not care? Proven - this is a loss.

              Family is a part of the country!
              You do not blame these reproaches, but address all the foxes. I have clearly stated my position.
              And my tanks and so ride on the exercises, I do not mind.
              1. groks
                groks April 12 2018 19: 52
                0
                The position is clear - a hut with an edge.
          2. free
            free April 14 2018 10: 08
            0
            Quote: INTER
            Quote: free
            Do you offer to fight for power grabbers so that they can continue to exploit us?

            I don’t offer anything to anyone, if necessary, I will protect my family’s land and homeland and I don’t give a damn about all grabbers, I will fulfill the duty assigned to me as the head of the family at the right time.
            And what do you suggest, surrender if enemy tanks roll around the window ????
            Everyone has their own choice. As the GDP said: "It is better to be hanged for loyalty than to be shot for betrayal."

            Another stubborn one when I said that I had to give up? Well, remind me!
          3. free
            free April 14 2018 10: 58
            0
            Quote: INTER
            Quote: free
            Do you offer to fight for power grabbers so that they can continue to exploit us?

            I don’t offer anything to anyone, if necessary, I will protect my family’s land and homeland and I don’t give a damn about all grabbers, I will fulfill the duty assigned to me as the head of the family at the right time.
            And what do you suggest, surrender if enemy tanks roll around the window ????
            Everyone has their own choice. As the GDP said: "It is better to be hanged for loyalty than to be shot for betrayal."

            First you need to understand exactly who your friends are? Can you answer?
            And you don’t need to give up, it’s a betrayal!
        4. Alf
          Alf April 12 2018 21: 39
          +1
          Quote: free
          Or a bourgeois war will grow into a class war!

          Now, you have already reached the quotation of the classic. Viva from me to you!
        5. AleksSandro
          AleksSandro 30 August 2018 12: 06
          +1
          Our "bourgeois war" has already once grown into a "class war." Then, at first, the "leader of the world proletariat" and his followers strenuously ruined the army, sowing defeatist sentiments at the front and calling for desertion. Then came the new slogan of the "leader", which sounded like this: "Let us turn the imperialist war into a civil war." And turned! Bottom line: revolution and civil war with its 12 million victims, 2 million emigrants, the collapse of the country, devastation, epidemics, hunger, cannibalism, and after 2 decades a new war with Germany. But in 1917, she (Germany), having exhausted all resources (human and economic), was on the verge of complete collapse and disappearance from the world map, like her ally Turkey. But our two "revolutions" saved them. In 1915, our Western "allies" were forced to recognize us, in case of victory, the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, as well as the transformation of the Black Sea into the internal sea of ​​Russia. But we, with the help of such as some of the propagandists present here, preferred a "class war" (that is, a civil war). After that, it would seem, hardly any of the sane people will have a desire to repeat such a scenario, but, apparently, history teaches nothing. Are the current "red propagandists" themselves ready to take part in the new "class war" for which they are so advocating? Or would they prefer to listen to reports from the frontlines while lying on the couch?
      2. alatanas
        alatanas April 12 2018 14: 41
        +1
        It's good to fight while sitting on the couch, but ...
        1. saigon
          saigon April 12 2018 17: 55
          0
          Well, tell me how to fight without sitting on the couch?
          Maybe I'll refresh my memory.
          Tell us how bad it’s to fight not on the couch, just keep in mind when telling that here behind many people the war is not on the couch and what many people smell of war.
          So we’ll listen to the story of the gentleman from Bulgaria about the war.
          1. alatanas
            alatanas April 13 2018 10: 29
            +1
            "Mr. from Bulgaria" was a military man in the Bulgarian army (when
            was the number of 147 000 people) for quite a long time and he knows on his own hump what the difference is between the sofa and fields, forests and mountains, especially in February or March, for example. soldier

            PS Already 25 years as I said: "Weapon sbogu" and I can sit on the couch sometimes sometimes. hi
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  7. vlad007
    vlad007 April 12 2018 07: 16
    +4
    The analogies with the Crimean War of 1853-56 are inappropriate. At that time, the WOODEN fleet, sunk in the bay of Sevastopol, tried to resist the steel ships.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 12 2018 07: 55
      +22
      The English ships in the Crimean War were also wooden, only with steam traction and they were different. And the phrase about the Crimean defeat is stupid, for three years to occupy half a city and lose in exchange in the Caucasus the Kars fortress this does not pull for defeat. There wasn’t even a defeat, just the heiress-liberal was tired of fighting
      1. kan123
        kan123 April 12 2018 16: 28
        +1
        Ships at Nikolai Palych, were already so outdated troughs that they had to be sunk - they would have just been shot in a dash. It was even worse with small arms, rifled rifles already appeared - and how the emperor was going to fight there - the British - one shot, one corpse, from a kilometer, and the Russian troops fired in all directions, three hundred meters. The defeat was concrete - and so much so Palych had a mycardial infarction, or he was poisoned, as usual. The world was quite cruel - it was forbidden to have a fleet, this and that were forbidden. Sanctions again - the restriction of trade, etc., etc. Russia retreated from that war about fifty years ago, because industrialization was going on around the world — the United States was an agrarian country, France was an agrarian country — everyone was industrialized, and the Republic of Ingushetia slowed down the road — it was a very important loss.
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro April 12 2018 17: 59
          +5
          stamp set
          the ships of Nikolai Palych in the same year drowned the entire Turkish Black Sea fleet near Sinop, this is about obsolete troughs
          rifled weapons were already known in the Napoleonic war and did not do any weather in the positional trench warfare, bayonet attacks of the French with the same smooth-bore weapons achieved greater effect than the British fittings
          it was forbidden to have a fleet for everyone who defeated the Turks in the Black Sea either.
          Russia buried the conditions of the world a few years later and again without asking anyone led the Cheromorsk fleet
          About Nikolai Palych a rare nonsense. By the way, the world was not going to sign it. Liberal Alexander signed it, so he was banged by a bomb
          1. Alf
            Alf April 12 2018 21: 44
            0
            Quote: Pissarro
            the ships of Nikolai Palych in the same year drowned the entire Turkish Black Sea fleet near Sinop, this is about obsolete troughs

            And what were the Turkish ships?
        2. saigon
          saigon April 12 2018 18: 15
          +2
          And what is the obsolescence of the ships of the Russian Empire?
          68 pound bombing guns were world-class, and the years of construction of battleships are somehow not very old. So that shooting shooting is not visible, and the weight of the airborne salvo of the steamships didn’t draw the weight of the salvo of the same Empress Maria of the flagship Nakhimov. A shot and a corpse from a choke of that time at 1000 meters is also not true, they fired at such distances in volleys. A bullet of the French like Mignet, well, one-on-one, like an airliner, has the same thimble and the lethal action at large distances fell strongly.
          And the fittings of the Russian army were.
          1. Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 April 21 2018 15: 37
            0
            Turkish ships were worse than Russian, but the English and French steamers easily coped with sailing ships constrained by wind conditions. Sinop "the last battle of the sailing fleet"
            1. saigon
              saigon April 21 2018 15: 44
              0
              I apologize . but wanted to know an example of the victory of ships over sailing ships in that war?
              1. Vladimir1155
                Vladimir1155 April 24 2018 22: 27
                0
                Sevastopol, the sailboats had to be flooded, and the steamers unhindered all
                1. saigon
                  saigon April 25 2018 16: 13
                  0
                  You probably did not understand, the question just sounds, where are victories in battle in that war of steamboats against sailing ships?
                  Although in Kamchatka, a group of Englishmen and French (having steamboats) raked off from Aurora. Trying to rob Petropavlovsk
                  1. Vladimir1155
                    Vladimir1155 April 25 2018 21: 40
                    0
                    Steamboat Vladimir defeated Turk Pervaz Bahri
                    1. saigon
                      saigon April 26 2018 16: 58
                      0
                      More precisely, the steamboat-frigate Vladimir surpassing the Turk in artillery by head (we will take into account the bombing weapons of the Russians and the disgusting preparation of the Turks, as well as the caliber of the guns)
                      We add this single, and not squadron battle, and everything was decided by the quality of the team’s training
                      1. Vladimir1155
                        Vladimir1155 April 27 2018 17: 12
                        0
                        you know the story well, you always have new introductory ones, the battle was there, I gave an example, In Kamchatka .... the coastal artillery decided everything, and the frigate stood in the bay .... of course you recall Sinop, Corfu, but this is the heroism of Russian sailors , So you have not proved the advantage of sail over steamboats, nor can you refute the principal advantage of bergov means over surface ships
    2. victor50
      victor50 April 12 2018 10: 21
      +9
      And we, having been destroying the army for almost 30 years, what are we going to confront? Look at the statistics, how many fighters we had in the 80s, and how many now. Those in terms of performance characteristics were not too and not always lagged behind the NATO ones. Not talking about the number of other weapons. If Korolev and Kurchatov had not existed at one time, Russia would not have existed for a long time!
      1. Arseny Kuvaldos
        Arseny Kuvaldos April 12 2018 16: 20
        +4
        In addition, Korolev, Kurchatov, Keldysh did not grow on themselves, but on the body of the people, and Stalin "muddied" all the processes.
  8. alekc75
    alekc75 April 12 2018 07: 35
    +12
    Aftoru no longer pour !!! it is advisable for him to move to kuev and write there!
  9. Alone
    Alone April 12 2018 07: 45
    +8
    The author offers two ways out of the situation. The first one according to the Western scenario consists of subitems, the second based on his national interests. Someone who writes from the series that the author has "lost everything", I propose to re-read it thoughtfully and not through the line, and then everything will fall into place.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 12 2018 07: 59
      +11
      Reread thoughtfully nonsense about the Serbs in NATO for example. Serbs in NATO are only in the inflamed imagination of the author. About the relationship between the Chinese Communists and the Queen of the nonsense of the rank of world conspiracy. About the attack from Inzherlik in aid of the Kurdish offensive is nonsense from a complete misunderstanding of the interests of Turkey. About Iran the same stupidity.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 08: 13
      +5
      Quote: Alone
      The author offers two ways out of the situation.

      the author does not offer anything
      the meaning of the article
    3. Maverick1812
      Maverick1812 April 12 2018 15: 29
      +1
      I wrote about this too. Here the haters "turned on" and betrayed us all anathema calling them traitors. So who is the traitor? Tukhachevsky or singers ... if tomorrow is war, if tomorrow is camping? This country has already passed. So then preparations began and a lot of mistakes were made, now we repeat everything! Probably from the great mind of the great WinniePu ?!
      1. olegyurjewitch
        olegyurjewitch April 12 2018 17: 19
        0
        Quote: Maverick1812
        I wrote about this too. Here the haters "turned on" and betrayed us all anathema calling them traitors. So who is the traitor? Tukhachevsky or singers ... if tomorrow is war, if tomorrow is camping? This country has already passed. So then preparations began and a lot of mistakes were made, now we repeat everything! Probably from the great mind of the great WinniePu ?!

        Quote: Maverick1812
        I wrote about this too. Here the haters "turned on" and betrayed us all anathema calling them traitors. So who is the traitor? Tukhachevsky or singers ... if tomorrow is war, if tomorrow is camping? This country has already passed. So then preparations began and a lot of mistakes were made, now we repeat everything! Probably from the great mind of the great WinniePu ?!
      2. olegyurjewitch
        olegyurjewitch April 12 2018 17: 25
        0
        Is he ready? Did he hold in his hands? Lame on both legs, do not hold the gun!
        Not lame and thank God!
      3. Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 April 21 2018 15: 40
        0
        the traitor was Tukhachevsky, Yakir, Uborevich, and other Trotskyite trash. the patriots were Zhukov Konev, Rokosovsky,
  10. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 08: 11
    +2
    , no real analysis, no practical suggestions
  11. slavaseven
    slavaseven April 12 2018 08: 15
    +1
    the main task is to oust the United States and NATO from Little Russia (Ukraine)
    - too late. It used to be.
    Samsonov Alexander, thanks for the analysis of the situation. However, it is strange to me that you offer a "choice without a choice" - two options, one worse than the other. Very much exaggerate and pump, analyzing one-sided. There are many ways out for Russia from the current situation.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat April 12 2018 08: 27
      +4
      There are many ways out for Russia from the current situation.

      What? wink
      1. 72jora72
        72jora72 April 12 2018 12: 58
        +4
        What kind? wink
        Judging by your activity here, and on the other branches of VO, you have a crisis of communication, what, does alcohol already not help? wink
        1. 17085
          17085 April 12 2018 13: 32
          +7
          Quote: 72jora72
          Judging by your activity here, and on the other branches of VO, you have a crisis of communication, what, does alcohol already not help?


          he is in the service, he cannot
        2. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat April 12 2018 14: 46
          0
          In this "something" is, I'm sitting on the "point", waiting for something to break and I will have to go fix it ... until the calm ..... and really, boring .....
      2. 17085
        17085 April 12 2018 13: 40
        +1
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        There are many ways out for Russia from the current situation.
        What?


        Yes, anything. In the SGA, congressional elections are on the nose. You can drown the Republicans with a couple of thousand soldiers' coffins. None of their retaliatory actions will then save, but rather worsen the situation. The SGA will gobble up itself and bite Trump.
        1. Romey
          Romey April 12 2018 14: 35
          +3
          Quote: 17085
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          There are many ways out for Russia from the current situation.
          What?


          Yes, anything. In the SGA, congressional elections are on the nose. You can drown the Republicans with a couple of thousand soldiers' coffins. None of their retaliatory actions will then save, but rather worsen the situation. The SGA will gobble up itself and bite Trump.

          Who is our hero who decides to organize a couple of thousand coffins for the Americans? Really Putin? Here, recently, the guys from the office of Putin's cook were smashed into the trash (oh tempore! O mores! They lived, restaurateurs took up military affairs. Although it’s hard to be surprised after Taburetkin), the Kremlin nonetheless remained constructive as they are. And there are no preconditions for a change in the situation and is not expected.
          1. 17085
            17085 April 13 2018 11: 51
            +1
            Quote: romey
            Here, recently, the guys from the office of Putin's cook were smashed into the trash (oh tempore! O mores! Lived, restaurateurs took up military affairs.

            What is this about? I don’t know how to admit ... And how does this contradict my comment?

            They will defend themselves and arrange not a couple, but more. I believe in the Russian army and navy. I am sure that the Americans will do it when they realize that they will have to die. Xs knows why. At the same time, exchanges will also respond accordingly. Republicans, as a party, simply will not have a future. I about it.
  12. Arabfun
    Arabfun April 12 2018 08: 31
    +3
    In the Soviet years, before Brezhnev and the pseudo-“flight” of Americans to the moon, several NATO planes were shot down every year, and you say worse now than it was. World peace has come and we are the best friends with NATO ... and then, it is believed, the economy was better than now ... I just don’t understand why ordinary people as we interfere so deeply in global politics, why is this information in the media they’re doing it, because they have everything agreed upstairs, they won’t fight.
    1. victor50
      victor50 April 12 2018 10: 27
      +2
      May 1, 1960 was shot down, and when else from this date until the end of 1964? And, yes, during the Caribbean crisis, another one of the same failed. More, it seems, was not. Share if you know. Under Brezhnev, the hands of the Vietnamese almost every day. But this does not count winked
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka April 12 2018 11: 49
        0
        I don’t know either. Although there is a version with a South Korean Boeing that there was an air battle, which ended in our favor. A Boeing was sacrificed by the Americans. And the book is "World War III over Sakhalin or who shot down the Korean liner." I don’t remember who wrote, a foreigner for sure. Everything is stated there tediously and dryly. The author has enough conclusions, not everything is indisputable, from my point of view. Read, it will be useful.
        1. Arabfun
          Arabfun April 13 2018 03: 38
          +1
          Akuzenka: look for the "List of incidents involving foreign aviation over the USSR (1946-1991)" wikipedia
      2. kotvov
        kotvov April 12 2018 13: 47
        +3
        if you don’t know, it doesn’t mean that you didn’t knock down. They knocked down and even how. Who served at that time knows.
      3. VVK_VDB
        VVK_VDB April 12 2018 21: 31
        -1
        “On September 2, 1958, the C-130A-II Hercules reconnaissance aircraft of the 7406th US Air Force combat support squadron, flying from Adan airfield in Turkey, was shot down by Soviet MiG-17 fighters over Armenia. All 17 crew members were lost and their remains returned partly right after the incident, partly after exploration 40 years later. "
        http://www.aif.ru/society/history/vozdushnaya_voy
        na_kak_sssr_unichtozhal_samolety_nato
      4. Arabfun
        Arabfun April 13 2018 03: 33
        0
        viktor50: In 1973, when the cartridges ended with supersonic rams being shot down, look for the "List of incidents involving foreign aviation over the USSR (1946-1991)" wikipedia
  13. Phoenix_L'vov
    Phoenix_L'vov April 12 2018 08: 33
    +7
    A new mixture appeared on the site, Kaptsov's delusional generator with Girkin Strelkov “all gone”.
  14. A.
    A. April 12 2018 08: 36
    +2
    What nonsense.
  15. Altona
    Altona April 12 2018 08: 49
    +8
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    the author does not offer anything

    ------------------------------------
    Why not offer? Offers. The same paradigm shift is proposed as 100 years ago, when rotten tsarism lost power, the bourgeoisie, due to their greed and self-confidence, could not use this power and the Soviets took power, led by the Bolsheviks.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 12 2018 10: 24
      +3
      Are you hungry for a young republic again in the ring of fronts, famine, devastation and start all over again? You are strange people
  16. shark
    shark April 12 2018 09: 12
    +12
    The article has two common thoughts. No, not even three. Namely 1) Friendship with the West on equal terms is not possible 2) Stop playing democracy. 3) It's time to smash the fifth column. All Westerners and Liberot there. And this could stop here.
  17. Romul_78
    Romul_78 April 12 2018 09: 20
    +5
    And what is the author wrong about? Is it that Russia in Syria cannot defeat France, England, Israel and the Gulf monarchy alone? It is a fact. It is necessary to admit defeat and leave from there. In the country, the Bolsheviks of our day, the Leninists who will stand on the Mausoleum, will turn to the people "brothers and sisters" and begin to build their country, will come to power
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 12 2018 10: 28
      +8
      Only the enemy can wish to defeat their own country and spit on the massacre of secular Syrian people. Do not cling to those standing at the mausoleum, they fought to the end in Spain, and did not offer to blame quickly for fear of an allegedly strong enemy. Your inheritance
      1. Antares
        Antares April 12 2018 11: 50
        0
        Quote: Pissarro
        Wish defeat your own country

        “Female students of St. Petersburg higher women’s courses unanimously refused to participate in a prayer service to grant Russia victory, and some of them sent a congratulatory telegram ... Mikado (to the Japanese emperor). So did a group of St. Petersburg students-travelers. In Vitebsk, in the gymnasium, with news of the war, the gymnasium students stood up and shouted: "Long live Japan!"

        There is a logic — they wished to defeat not Russia, but the regime.
        Well, the logic is "Japanese teacher" (as for France, German)
    2. Digtoyou
      Digtoyou April 12 2018 14: 07
      +2
      The people already believed this once and won the war. But only after the war the repressions not only did not stop, but even intensified. Do something for the people. Inexpensive gasoline, cheap electricity, interest-free loans. Our grandfathers conquered all this. And then we'll talk for brothers and sisters.
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 12 2018 09: 23
    +9
    And you can author of this - that ... Eliminate in the space of VO. He is an obvious defeatist and alarmist. In the war, they shot such people without trial ... Everything is bad, the almighty enemy, let's step back, they will regret us ...
    We will be divided and finish! Absolutely. So that there is no "smell" left ...
    1. Romul_78
      Romul_78 April 12 2018 09: 29
      +4
      We cannot win in Syria. It is a fact. Forces are not equal
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro April 12 2018 10: 29
        +5
        You yes. Do not speak for everyone)
      2. kotvov
        kotvov April 12 2018 13: 49
        0
        You definitely can’t win. You can evacuate.
      3. bubelik
        bubelik April 12 2018 17: 59
        +1
        Quote: Romul_78
        We cannot win in Syria. It is a fact. Forces are not equal

        Tell that to the defenders of the Brest Fortress.
      4. ALEA IACTA EST
        ALEA IACTA EST April 12 2018 20: 50
        +1
        Hundreds of warheads versus hundreds of warheads. The best strategy is to keep the situation in the picometer from war. Nobody will arrange a nuclear apocalypse due to a colonial dispute, all our claims can be satisfied - you just need to insist on your own.
    2. victor50
      victor50 April 12 2018 10: 32
      +5
      Have you read the article? Or just similar comments? The author does not offer to give up. For me, he proposes to build a country that does not surrender, and which will not surrender ... no so-called "elite"
    3. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka April 12 2018 11: 52
      +2
      No you can not. Such articles are written by order. If they say about something that there is kirdyk, then they are sure that this is not so and they are trying to raise a panic so that they do not meddle and cannot adequately assess the threat. If the enemy scolds what you are doing, then you are doing it right. If he praises, then it is bad there or everything is going according to his plans.
  19. Altona
    Altona April 12 2018 09: 32
    +6
    Quote: Romul_78
    We cannot win in Syria. It is a fact. Forces are not equal

    -------------------------
    We won in Europe 73 years ago.
    1. Romul_78
      Romul_78 April 12 2018 09: 39
      +14
      A completely different situation. Then there was a people's army, power unified with the people, Stalin, who did not exchange his son for a German general. It was a national war of the whole nation. Now we do not have a fatherland, everything is sold out and stolen in the pockets of large and medium capital. For their interests, noble rage among the people will not rise. In addition, then before the war, the "blood tyrant" built 10000 enterprises. Now what? Open your eyes finally
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat April 12 2018 10: 19
        +6
        For some reason, everyone in Russia believes that there will be a Third World War, but here in the crumpled media they write that there will not be a Third World War ("when the wall to wall"), but the war of the Coalition of Democratic States against Russia. Do you feel the difference? states against one single state, that is, they will be crushed by a whole pack of one enemy, with the tacit non-participation of other “spectators” —China, India, etc. who later expect to join the section of the tidbit of the conquered enemy who has remained in place ...
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro April 12 2018 11: 12
          +9
          It is ridiculous to evaluate a pack of Latvia against Russia. I remember they threatened Iran, Korea, but it became scary. Does it mean that it is not scary against Russia? By the way, the term that Trump gave came out and silence
        2. Every
          Every April 12 2018 11: 36
          +11
          Monster_Fat (Yes, What a Difference) Today, 10:19 ↑ New
          For some reason, everyone in Russia believes that there will be a Third World War, but here in the crumpled media they write that there will not be a Third World War ("when the wall to wall"), but the war of the Coalition of Democratic States against Russia. Do you feel the difference? states against one single state, that is, they will be crushed by a whole pack of one enemy, with the tacit non-participation of other “spectators” —China, India, etc. who later expect to join the section of the tidbit of the conquered enemy who has remained in place ...

          Russia will not be able to withstand all countries of the "coalition of democratic states", this is understandable. We do not have enough resources, neither technical nor human. Those. the probability of defeat is great.
          Just March 1, GDP said bluntly, “we don’t need a world without Russia” That is Russia will go to the total destruction of the planet with the help of nuclear weapons. (enough strength for this).
          In other words, if Russia loses, then it will take all the others with it. Everyone will lose.
  20. Olgovich
    Olgovich April 12 2018 09: 59
    +1
    State that strikes against Damascus will be considered as strikes against Russia. With all the ensuing consequences. Demand the withdrawal of all intervention troops from the territory of Syria - Turkish, American.
    And who will obey? Lavrov said Turkey must transfer Afrin to Syria. Erdogan replied: This is our business and no one decree is given to us.
    Start the real restoration of the union state
    What's this?.
    Failure to withdraw the occupying forces, for example, of Turkey, will lead to the severance of all contacts - diplomatic and economic. Moscow may raise the issue on the status of the Straits and Constantinople, the restoration of Armenia (the return of Western Armenia, which is part of Turkey), the creation of a Kurdish state, etc.
    Moscow will raise, but Turkey will not even notice.
    Russia's tough stance will force the collective West to retreat
    With a fright? request .
    1. victor50
      victor50 April 12 2018 10: 35
      0
      With a fright? request . [/ Quote]
      That's it from him!
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich April 12 2018 11: 45
        +1
        [quote = victor50] What a fright? request . [/ Quote]
        That's it from him! [/ Quote]
        Does he know that he must be afraid?
  21. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 12 2018 10: 05
    +8
    Alexander, you, like Roman Skomorokhov, have fallen into panic and pan-proverbialism! Why's that? Have you stopped believing in Russia and its forces? Today's situation is more reminiscent of the 41st than the Eastern company. But do not forget, the Russian Federation is a nuclear superpower, whatever you say. This is not flint or capsule for you, if you want, to swing the fitting with a fitting! Mattresses understand this very well! And they are unlikely to take such a risk. But to destabilize the situation inside the Russian Federation is an honorable prize! They have already achieved this, and they would very much like to repeat their success without war. Then, 27 years ago, the domestic 5th column of “weepers” and all-prowlers played a significant role with a fair betrayal in the highest echelons of power. Let's not vote and sprinkle ashes on our heads! A real warrior, especially a Russian one, always fights to a complete victory, despite the temporary setbacks and losses. We are Russian! And with us God and his mother, the patroness of Russia!
    1. Varyag_0711
      Varyag_0711 April 12 2018 12: 02
      +9
      And you still do not understand that this author is the representative of the same notorious 5th column? For me, this is obvious and for a long time.
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      2. bubelik
        bubelik April 12 2018 18: 04
        +3
        This is not his first article, word for word echoes with the mantra of all rifle and el-murids. Katz again offers to surrender.
  22. vnord
    vnord April 12 2018 10: 13
    +2
    About Turkey in Syria. The Kurdish issue in Turkey is acute. In fact, the solution of the Kurdish question (by any means) for Turkey is the question of preserving Turkey as a state .. Erdogan was in fact driven into a corner ..
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 12 2018 10: 32
      +2
      No, Erdogan was shown the only option, to side with Russia and Assad, and to solve the Kurdish issue together with Iran. Kurds made a mistake by betting on Israel and the USA
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat April 12 2018 10: 49
        +5
        And now Erdogan has been made another proposal: we (the USA and the Western coalition) do not interfere in your affairs with the Kurds — do with them what you want, we will not interfere, but in return you should not support Russia and Iran in any situation. Erdogan bloomed directly to Russia and Iran from the very beginning, he was afraid of one that he would pin the United States tail in dealing with Kurds, now he received a card blanche to resolve the Kurdish issue on his own, without looking at anyone else. So he laid down on Russia (especially when he hooked it on the Turkish Stream hook) and Iran and will continue to lay down.
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro April 12 2018 11: 08
          +2
          Erdogan believed those who wanted to bang him physically. Mattresses with Jews left Kurdistan?
          1. Monster_Fat
            Monster_Fat April 12 2018 11: 19
            +1
            Uh, nice American people know how to “litter” their ears, the attempt has already been blamed on the uncoordinated actions of individuals from the CIA who are already fired. It remains only to give Gulen for the Turks for complete happiness, but the Americans complain that they can’t do it, because he managed to get the status of a political refugee, which implies that he will not be extradited. Like we don’t mind giving him away, but the paper does not allow it. wink
            And as for Kurdistan .... there are also hfransuz tears pouring, they say they have a large Kurdish community and we promised them assistance in resolving the Kurdish issue. Yes, this is not an easy task, Kurds. Most likely, they will agree with Erdogan on these territories, but that's the question.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 13: 41
          +3
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          And now Erdogan was made another proposal: ...

          and you were at the announcement of the proposal?
  23. Romul_78
    Romul_78 April 12 2018 10: 20
    +5
    Quote: sib.ataman
    Alexander, you, like Roman Skomorokhov, have fallen into panic and pan-proverbialism! Why's that? Have you stopped believing in Russia and its forces? Today's situation is more reminiscent of the 41st than the Eastern company. But do not forget, the Russian Federation is a nuclear superpower, whatever you say. This is not flint or capsule for you, if you want, to swing the fitting with a fitting! Mattresses understand this very well! And they are unlikely to take such a risk. But to destabilize the situation inside the Russian Federation is an honorable prize! They have already achieved this, and they would very much like to repeat their success without war. Then, 27 years ago, the domestic 5th column of “weepers” and all-prowlers played a significant role with a fair betrayal in the highest echelons of power. Let's not vote and sprinkle ashes on our heads! A real warrior, especially a Russian one, always fights to a complete victory, despite the temporary setbacks and losses. We are Russian! And with us God and his mother, the patroness of Russia!

    Nobody will use nuclear weapons.
    As for 41 years, what would be the result if then it was not Stalin who was in power, but the Vlasovites?
  24. Goonnk
    Goonnk April 12 2018 10: 44
    +3
    How many alarmists, I'm shocked. There is no analysis in the article from the word at all, there are several unproven statements. Complete nonsense. It is not clear to whom much more informed and adequate authors write.
  25. sergo42
    sergo42 April 12 2018 11: 43
    +6
    Strelkov (Girkin) warned about this situation, and the consequences of freezing the conflict in Ukraine, and "getting into" the conflict in Syria three years ago. All the stupid "Hitropalanovites" rushed at him like hell, what nonsense they didn’t make a fuss ... And now, what do we have? Nearby is a hostile fascist state, with an already restored army and insulted in Russia. LDNR was almost leaked, but in return they still received the entire set of sanctions and hostile actions, as if we would take Kiev. They’ve rushed into Syria, consider it in the interests of Gazprom, when Assad was too late to help, and despite the loud triumphant trials of nanogeny, they didn’t achieve anything, more than half of the country under occupation by the “partners” - the US and Turkey, and barmel men walk freely around the country . And the author correctly writes, the choice of only two options is either war or shame, and then war is all the same. ... But we are not ready for war, and liberoid creatures in the government will not let mobilize the people.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat April 12 2018 12: 01
      +3
      Strelkov-Girkin's Nezavisimaya Gazeta has a good article on this subject. Everything is sorted out there. It is unpleasant to read that Russia is a loser in any situation, but the truth is often unsightly and unpleasant.
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro April 12 2018 12: 18
        +4
        What we have is the actual military victory in Syria. It remains to change it into a political one. Gangs are broken, territories are cleared except for Idlib, Assad is unshakable. And you are telling us about defeat. What is it about? Even a miserable hundred tomahawks in the absence of an air defense reaction will not change anything already, they will not knock out SAA from hundreds of cities and villages.
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat April 12 2018 12: 22
          +4
          Lord, at least take a look at the map of Syria, on which the territories under the control of Assad are marked .... Before the "victory", as before the "mountain of cancer" ....
          1. Pissarro
            Pissarro April 12 2018 12: 42
            +4
            Maybe you are not looking at that card? On our map, Assad controls both the capitals of Syria, Damascus and Aleppo, controls the coast with ports, main roads and almost Asya populated area. The Kurds behind the Euphrates, the Turks in the north, plus the Idlibian viper, Gutu cleaned out. In essence, it remains to solve the Kurdish issue and clean out Idlib. There is no longer any threat to legal authority; the West can no longer win. Is there something else on the map?
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 13: 35
            +1
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            look at the map of Syria
      2. Amateur
        Amateur April 12 2018 13: 15
        +1
        It used to be Bronstein-Trotsky, now Strelkov-Girkind. What is it for?
      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 13: 39
        0
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Strelkov-Girkin's Nezavisimaya Gazeta has a good article on this subject.

        give a link, we will make a decision ourselves a good article or not
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat April 12 2018 14: 31
          +1
          But what can we go to the Nezavisimaya Gazeta website and search for the word “shooters” we ourselves can’t? http://www.ng.ru/politics/2018-03-28/100_strelkov
          2.html
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 14: 48
            +2
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            But what can we go to the Nezavisimaya Gazeta website and search for the word “shooters” we ourselves can’t?

            don’t make yourself the smartest; I know how to organize a search in nete if it’s better or worse than you, that's for sure, I made first of all links to 300 pages, how do you think I should do nothing more than how to look out from them what you liked more ?!
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 14: 57
            +1
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            http://www.ng.ru/politics/2018-03-28/100_strelkov
            2.html

            and what did you find here "good" and even more so "laid out on shelves" ?!
            in its pure form, exhaustion from the finger is not confirmed by anything.
            neither an analysis of the number of groups, nor an analysis of the deployment time, while there is absolutely no analysis of the actions of the fleet and much more

            At the second stage of the operation, Russia's response can be either limited (the first option) or strategic (the second option). In the event of limited support, pro-Russian troops will not be able to restore the front line and return the lost territories. "Bloodless formations will be forced to go on the defensive; Moscow will initiatively try to achieve a ceasefire - which will be a defeat with far-reaching consequences," Strelkov writes.


            sorry you are
            then call to sort through the shelves? !!!
            after this article, I understand why he was flooded from the DPR, he can be a good commander of the platoon, MAY BE, but no more
            1. Monster_Fat
              Monster_Fat April 12 2018 16: 12
              0
              300 links? Oh well. Gunmen-Commander? and do you know why they "flooded" him? Oh well.... hi
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 16: 40
                +1
                Quote: Monster_Fat
                300 links? Oh well

                don’t stitch, don’t harness, moreover, learn to read not 300 links, but THREE pages of links
                Quote: Monster_Fat
                Do you know why they "flooded" him?

                if he gave the same analyst as Minister of Defense, then they trampled on the case
                1. Monster_Fat
                  Monster_Fat April 12 2018 16: 55
                  0
                  And why did the “picture” be cropped so slyly? So that you couldn’t see that Strelkov’s article “right in the eye” catches your eye without digging into ..... 3000 “links” .... wink
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 17: 09
                    +1
                    Dear, are you fooling around or are you really like that ?!
                    How do I know which of these articles you liked? !!!!
  26. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 12 2018 11: 45
    +2
    Quote: Romul_78
    Quote: sib.ataman
    Alexander, you, like Roman Skomorokhov, have fallen into panic and pan-proverbialism! Why's that? Have you stopped believing in Russia and its forces? Today's situation is more reminiscent of the 41st than the Eastern company. But do not forget, the Russian Federation is a nuclear superpower, whatever you say. This is not flint or capsule for you, if you want, to swing the fitting with a fitting! Mattresses understand this very well! And they are unlikely to take such a risk. But to destabilize the situation inside the Russian Federation is an honorable prize! They have already achieved this, and they would very much like to repeat their success without war. Then, 27 years ago, the domestic 5th column of “weepers” and all-prowlers played a significant role with a fair betrayal in the highest echelons of power. Let's not vote and sprinkle ashes on our heads! A real warrior, especially a Russian one, always fights to a complete victory, despite the temporary setbacks and losses. We are Russian! And with us God and his mother, the patroness of Russia!

    Nobody will use nuclear weapons.
    As for 41 years, what would be the result if then it was not Stalin who was in power, but the Vlasovites?


    Regarding nuclear weapons, one must carefully listen to the statements of GDP. Stalin is not Stalin, that the entire Red Army surrendered? Or did each hero have a Stalin icon on his chest? Do you refuse a simple person heroism and self-sacrifice? And today in Syria there are no examples of heroism?
    Stalin in the 41st could mainly influence the upper echelons of power, which he did. And the whole burden of the 41st on its shoulders was borne by a simple Soviet people, t.s., a simple layman.
    1. kan123
      kan123 April 12 2018 16: 09
      +6
      Stalin and the party with which he associated himself influenced the people. Some uncle said that if the Germans came in the 20s, they would not have met such resistance, and in the 30s the people only began to live. A standard of living was created there, which no one could dream of, some ten years ago. The janitor could sit in a good restaurant - 13 rubles bill for three, subsidiary plots, artels, stadiums, theaters - the life of the population did not differ from the life of some kind of bourgeois before the revolution. Compared to the tsar, there was practically no need to work - 8 hour shifts, all for free. Therefore, the brazen aggression of the Germans, already met with total resistance. And how did they perceive the same occupation in 18? the same people: "the German will come - he will restore order." Stalin in this story, wipe from these achievements, does not work. Marshal Golovanov compared Stalin with a conductor - he would stop waving his stick and the whole orchestra would fall apart. Someone in the woods, some for firewood. But Stalin did more than wave his stick.
  27. zyzx
    zyzx April 12 2018 11: 55
    +2
    The Chinese will not go further than their wall. They did not do it a thousand and two thousand years ago, it is not necessary now.
  28. SCHWERIN
    SCHWERIN April 12 2018 12: 00
    +6
    How many fatal mistakes have been made. Crimea. Nikita handed over to Krajine. I admit what has been done without a second thought. For Yeltsin during the struggle for power, he did not matter. I gave it to Kravchuk. Due to the threat of the annexation of the USA by Crimea with the help of irresponsible Ukrainians, the GDP had to go for a forceful return. This is good, but the West will never put up with it.
    The West, one must understand the United States, is used to playing long. They did not recognize the annexation of the Baltic states to the USSR in 1939. They waited a long time and waited. Now we have the Baltic front.
    The fact that in Ukropia come to power the people of the Pro-Bandera and Western orientation was evident from the very beginning of independence. Zapadents began to win elections. More motivated and unprincipled. Russians (Ukrainians) showed themselves to be an amorphous nation. Now we have a Russophobic state near the borders of the Russian Federation. They themselves also created and fed UkroSomalia with money. Nobody knows what to do with it.
    Gorby, I don’t know why, but I think out of stupidity, did not sign an agreement with the West on non-alignment of the countries of the Airborne Forces with NATO. Now it is on the borders of Russia.
    Stoked for Trump ....
    China will come with us if there is a threat to it, but no will sit on a hill. True, after us he will rake in full. Arabs, India and the entire right edge of the map are all clear. Japanes sleep and see a blitzkrieg. Former republics of the USSR, he wrote about the more advanced part about them, they sit in the Middle Ages, regardless of the availability of cars, IPhone, and other gadgets.
    In the Security Council, only Bolivia supported us. Full vacuum. The situation is even worse than after gr. war in the USSR. Then there was at least an idea in the world whose leader was Russia. And what an idea now.
    I have the idea that we are surviving. when we are a kind of generator of ideas for humanity. What now? A multipolar world? Does she sit in the head of an Indian, an Arab, etc.?
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 12 2018 12: 22
      +6
      The multipolar world sits precisely in the minds of an Arab, Indian, and Chinese. It is characteristic that not a single sovereign state joined the expulsion of diplomats, only the Anglo-Saxons and the European sixes, and then from under the stick. Russia has a different task, not to make the whole world happy with the idea, and not to let the dictates of the United States impose on the world. And Russia copes with this task
      1. SCHWERIN
        SCHWERIN April 12 2018 13: 45
        0
        Have you ever asked one Indian about the multipolar world in his head. Ask those millions who live and breed in cardboard boxes from refrigerators on the street or Arabs costing one scone per day. Probably Bollywood have seen enough?
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro April 12 2018 14: 09
          +3
          I work in Dubai, here are 60 percent of the Indians, and an Arab country. And not all of them live in boxes, many have a good business or work. Friends are asking from Russia for a T-shirt with Putin or the Russian eagle; I met the sticker In Putin we trust on cars. Yes, the whole world is looking at us now, will mattresses succeed in breaking us or not
          1. SCHWERIN
            SCHWERIN April 12 2018 15: 48
            +2
            OK. I am very glad that you are not reading books, but seeing the world with your own eyes! Many Indians have and had their own business not only in the UAE but also around the world. Not to mention Britain, they even hold banks in Africa.
            I am writing about the millions (and obviously not millions of business people) who live in India. Sickness, poverty, beggars, sewage sink even in Mumbai to the street. Stratification of society. So they obviously do not think about multipolarity. And those in Dubai, most of them are Gaster. A lot of gaster in the CA. These are Filipinos and Indians. The contract worked and home. About the fact that the whole world is looking at us. Likely, it also looks if the West is making an evil empire every day from Russia.
            Read Trump's delusional tweets in English and Americans' responses to them. Many support him in the situation in Syria. Although the people, in any case those with whom I spoke there, are normal and friendly and are not saturated with the spirit of Russophobia.
            Good luck to you...
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 13: 32
      +2
      Quote: SCHWERIN
      Gorby, I don’t know why, but I think out of stupidity, did not sign an agreement with the West on non-alignment of the countries of the Airborne Forces with NATO. Now it is on the borders of Russia.

      Do you really think that stupid ones could break into (into power)?
      1. SCHWERIN
        SCHWERIN April 12 2018 13: 53
        0
        Stupid and stupid are different concepts. Up to the 90s, our people could only visit Bulgaria, and there were only a few. I do not consider MSG to be stupid or a traitor, but after visiting the West and not having immunity from what he saw, he falsely interpreted the attitude of Western society towards himself. And being in euphoria from this and under the influence of his wife did a lot of things.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 15: 08
          +1
          Quote: SCHWERIN
          Up to the 90s, our people could only visit Bulgaria, and there were only a few. I don’t think MSG is stupid or a traitor, but having been to the West and not having immunity from what he saw,

          you forgive me, of course, but this is the reasoning of my grandmother from Uryupinsk, by the time he marked the secretary general of TAM, he had been more than once
          Quote: SCHWERIN
          he falsely interpreted the attitude of Western society towards himself. And being euphoric from this

          the labeled one walked to power over their heads and he certainly couldn’t be deceived by the attitude
          1. SCHWERIN
            SCHWERIN April 12 2018 15: 56
            0
            A) Everything is laid in the head and determines the life of a person from childhood. Gorbi, if my memory serves me, was not from a family of career diplomats. I lived in the village?
            B) Who said that he was heading for power? Raisa Maximovna? Yes, he surrendered the clearing of EBN without a fight, brought his wife to a stroke with his phobias. Other people led him to power
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 16: 43
              0
              Quote: SCHWERIN
              I lived in the village?

              I beg you, by the time he became Secretary General, he worked at a party post for a quarter of a century
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir April 12 2018 16: 52
              0
              Quote: SCHWERIN
              Who said he was heading for power?

              Can you imagine the relationship at the top of the party apparatus ?!
        2. u1977020556
          u1977020556 April 12 2018 17: 13
          +3
          Radish horseradish is not sweeter - it’s up to the end to bake it, and before that, feed the “rubber” water section to the fill until the guts begin to refuse (2 liters is approximately necessary - and not the tenant's uncle).
          I served in the 90s at the height of the crisis - all the officers were drunk and unshaven around the clock except for the regiment commander, political commander and intelligence officer. In the barracks, there is no one to command except demobilization. For 4 months of such a service, I lost all my health. With a height of 180 cm and a weight of 85 kg in early November, by mid-January there were 42 kg 800 grams left, the record is on the medical record. My bones are wide and heavy, so they are the only ones left. But I didn’t get to the hospital with a weight deficit, but with enterocolitis, this is the younger brother of dysentery, with a temperature above 40 degrees, in delirium. I didn’t start walking right away, on crutches first. He could not open doors with springs, he leaned on them and waited for someone to go the code. There were a lot of things. I was lucky, then I recovered. I have good genes - in Tambov, I am purebred by mother, and by father Ivanovsky, I got good health. But the guys could not stand it weaker, they grabbed hepatitis C and were sick more than once, but several, because they had neither health, immunity nor physical strength, the doctor said. None of them served, all were written off, with a disability of the 2nd group and the remains of the liver. Someone in the hospital died, and the others did not live long, as the doctors said. You can not live long if 30 percent of the liver is left and it is not restored, but rather dies away gradually.
          And then after this I find out that in Moscow, our capital, which I guarded half to death, I took out and buried Mikoyanovskaya sausage and sugar in wagons by wagons, poured gas and diesel fuel into the ground to create a shortage and to spread discontent among the people .. The Soviet government, so that the "democracy" of Yeltsin ultimately defeated ... the nits.
          We once had an alarm, combat, everyone was fully armed. And here I am sitting behind the armor along with everyone, and my head is spinning from hunger: automatic, full horns, 4 grenades offensive. They seem heavy like weights, several zinc lies underfoot. It's cold, there’s some kind of dullness in my head. And here the most important thing is told to us - in Moscow, the putschists seized power, the first echelon loyal to legitimate authority is already in Moscow. We have to wait. And here I am sitting and thinking - I need to be there, I am the son of my homeland, why is everyone delaying, only in vain? ... If only I knew then, where my Motherland actually was ....
          Definitely in the furnace of both of them, and Alkash and Humpback ... so many Slavs were killed in vain because of these nits and their "politics"
        3. riding
          riding April 13 2018 18: 06
          0
          Thatcher quite liked him even before occupying the pinnacle of power. Recognized her in him? No, rather, I saw in him an internal weakness. It was soft because it was rotten.
          1. SCHWERIN
            SCHWERIN April 13 2018 22: 47
            0
            I agree to all 100! The weakness was on Western sweets. I guess you remember how either the Iron Lady or the princess herself brought him a glass. What was his expression on his face, As if Jesus Christ had broken bread served to him. And the lady of his heart put her dime. Yes, that comelitis was struck by this disease.
            This is how the conquistadors gave the Indians glass beads, and gave gold.
        4. Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 April 21 2018 16: 31
          0
          wrong, the humpback covered many-million-dollar thefts, being the Tsar of Krasnodar (for example, they shot a medunov), and this was blackmailed by Yakovlev and Kalugin, who the New Yorkers had once filmed in a brothel, respectively, got hooked by the CIA
    3. credo
      credo April 12 2018 15: 12
      +1
      The quote is "... Only the Bolivia supported us in the Security Council. A complete vacuum. The situation is even worse than after the war in the USSR. Then there was at least an idea in the world whose leader was Russia. And what is the idea now ...."
      ______________________
      Simple - "Survive", and why you do not like it. What do you think, in the USA and the EU the idea is different, well, for example, this - "Make life in Russia happier and carefree, and the population richer." I did not notice this and the majority of the population of countries does not rave about fat there.

      Quote - "... I have an idea that we are surviving. When we are a kind of generator of ideas for humanity. And what is this hour? A multipolar world? Is it sitting in the head of an Indian, an Arab, etc.? ..."
      _________________________
      So if such an idea sits in you, then generate it for everyone to see and hear, and maybe then it will sit in the head of an Indian, an Arab, and others. The main thing is not to panic.
      1. SCHWERIN
        SCHWERIN April 12 2018 16: 06
        0
        They survive in the forest and in war. And in order for people to live, there is a state. If you survive, it is your right. Maybe you are a survivor and this is your hobby. Do not equate others on their own.
        Ideas are created by philosophers and if society accepts them, they take root. Alas, not a philosopher. And the Indians and Arabs have their own idea. And God give them health.
        About to panic. In life, a fatalist was in various situations and the VUS is appropriate.
    4. kan123
      kan123 April 12 2018 15: 51
      +1
      Wrong think, Nikita Sergeich, the son of a Polish landowner and his servants, was a Ukrainophile and Russophobe, he considered the main achievement, as secretary general - the “transfer” of Crimea to Ukraine and the Ukrainization of all branches of government, after purges, and other matters, such as the rehabilitation of Vlasovites, etc. etc. Probably the point is in the education of the Poles dad.
      They twisted Yeltsin’s hands - they didn’t send a plane with bucks, he signed everything - there was a threat of hunger and a civil threat, without those dollars. The Americans were interested in the base for the ships, they turned this scam.
      1. SCHWERIN
        SCHWERIN April 12 2018 16: 47
        0
        Lord Yes, where did you get this! Nikita was born in 1894 in the Kursk province. Father is a miner. My mother is also Russian. Wife N.P. Kuharchuk. The mother of his wife Bondarchuk. N.P. born in Poland (RI)
        This is probably Western Ukraine. Seen from here Nikita has a passion for vyshevanka.
        According to the words of his son Sergei, he transferred Crimea. his hands were in blood, as he told his son, during the years of repression in Ukraine.
  29. nivander
    nivander April 12 2018 12: 24
    0
    no, you can still distribute your Ukraine to everyone who wants to crawl under the stone and not stick out for another 50 years
  30. Bibliographer
    Bibliographer April 12 2018 12: 55
    +2
    An article from a series of verbal vyser. Sorry canceled dislikes
  31. 72jora72
    72jora72 April 12 2018 13: 01
    0
    Quote: Romul_78
    In the country, the Bolsheviks, the Leninists of our day, who will stand on the Mausoleum, should come to power,
    ........ and jumped from the Mausoleum upside down on the paving stones.
  32. Romul_78
    Romul_78 April 12 2018 13: 19
    +3
    Quote: sib.ataman
    Quote: Romul_78
    Quote: sib.ataman
    Alexander, you, like Roman Skomorokhov, have fallen into panic and pan-proverbialism! Why's that? Have you stopped believing in Russia and its forces? Today's situation is more reminiscent of the 41st than the Eastern company. But do not forget, the Russian Federation is a nuclear superpower, whatever you say. This is not flint or capsule for you, if you want, to swing the fitting with a fitting! Mattresses understand this very well! And they are unlikely to take such a risk. But to destabilize the situation inside the Russian Federation is an honorable prize! They have already achieved this, and they would very much like to repeat their success without war. Then, 27 years ago, the domestic 5th column of “weepers” and all-prowlers played a significant role with a fair betrayal in the highest echelons of power. Let's not vote and sprinkle ashes on our heads! A real warrior, especially a Russian one, always fights to a complete victory, despite the temporary setbacks and losses. We are Russian! And with us God and his mother, the patroness of Russia!

    Nobody will use nuclear weapons.
    As for 41 years, what would be the result if then it was not Stalin who was in power, but the Vlasovites?


    Regarding nuclear weapons, one must carefully listen to the statements of GDP. Stalin is not Stalin, that the entire Red Army surrendered? Or did each hero have a Stalin icon on his chest? Do you refuse a simple person heroism and self-sacrifice? And today in Syria there are no examples of heroism?
    Stalin in the 41st could mainly influence the upper echelons of power, which he did. And the whole burden of the 41st on its shoulders was borne by a simple Soviet people, t.s., a simple layman.

    A nation that is not united in a system is a crowd. The Soviet system before the war yielded results in the form of a banner over the Reichstag. What results will give the current soon see. In principle, people deserve what happens to them for the betrayal of their past, but it’s a pity for the children
  33. Radikal
    Radikal April 12 2018 13: 36
    +2
    Quote: Pissarro
    You overestimate Israel. Three Russia, Iran and Turkey decide the fate of the Middle East if they find consensus. Israeli and American capabilities to shoot a dozen rockets somewhere to discharge from the discharge under the door. Infantry no territory to occupy and losses to bear

    It seems that all adults are here, and you write such nonsense for the older group of the kindergarten and its teachers! lol wassat
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 12 2018 14: 11
      0
      It is human nature that he is not able to understand, consider stupidity, do not be discouraged, engage in self-education
  34. Eli bogart
    Eli bogart April 12 2018 13: 40
    +2
    All gone, all gone! author, dumped already in the West and not tryndi.
  35. Galina Artamonova
    Galina Artamonova April 12 2018 13: 43
    +2
    Knowing that this is an American site, do you want me to believe you? I deeply despise all those who betray the Homeland. I know that there is God. And I know that God is for Russia, that Syria needs protection! I know that England terribly angered God in the past, and about the USA and nothing to say. They destroyed the true people that God needs on this continent. Both of these countries are so vicious that the chances of these countries remaining very few.
    1. free
      free April 12 2018 17: 00
      0
      Quote: Galina Artamonova
      Knowing that this is an American site, do you want me to believe you? I deeply despise all those who betray the Homeland. I know that there is God. And I know that God is for Russia, that Syria needs protection! I know that England terribly angered God in the past, and about the USA and nothing to say. They destroyed the true people that God needs on this continent. Both of these countries are so vicious that the chances of these countries remaining very few.

      One would like to ask, how do you know all this? Do you communicate with the Almighty?
  36. Victoria Stach
    Victoria Stach April 12 2018 13: 43
    +1
    It’s time to show your teeth. The policy of peaceful coexistence has outlived itself.
  37. Igor Anatolievich
    Igor Anatolievich April 12 2018 13: 45
    +5
    Russia has a huge reserve of financial opportunities, namely to return the loot by the oligarchs. For so many years, the interests of the overwhelming majority have infringed on the handful of crooks. You can’t allow them to continue the feast during the plague.
  38. Radikal
    Radikal April 12 2018 13: 51
    +3
    Quote: groks
    Today we have an oligarchic lawlessness. The most powerful state machine, led by two supermonsters, cannot take the rights from Mary. And how did it end up with a dumbass drunk boy? And to whom did they give Yamal-LNG?
    Is it a great merit of the elite that they still agree on the fact that we will disperse them and pay something? Maybe then we will jump from the rule of law in the USA? And they have more pensions and salaries.

    Stop throwing polemics with the sectarians, even catch the infection from them via the Internet! hi They themselves will understand everything when their sect falls apart, and the main calmly settles somewhere in .... like, like Gorbachev. wassat lol
  39. Ivan Popov
    Ivan Popov April 12 2018 13: 52
    +1
    A stupid article, little to do with the present.
  40. Alexsin
    Alexsin April 12 2018 13: 56
    0
    Something the author’s advice is not clear. He advises, firstly, “to admit defeat and leave Syria.” That is, to hand over Syria to the Americans, who will immediately destroy Assad by the hands of their puppets from the opposition. And "Secondly, recognize Damascus as a strategic ally, Syria as a union state." How do you recognize Syria as a union state that the Americans will capture after Russia leaves it?
    "In the garden of elderberry, and in Kiev, uncle."
    1. Fylhtq
      Fylhtq April 12 2018 14: 17
      +1
      The author offers two options, either one or the other, and not all at once.
  41. Alexander Mazin
    Alexander Mazin April 12 2018 13: 57
    0
    I do not understand these lamentations. We already have (since the end of the 80s) not only a clear Plan on how to solve our problems of an economic and political nature, the purpose of which is to achieve a leading position in the world ranking of superpowers, but also to ensure it. Moreover, this Plan can be implemented in three years (of course, if you work, and not moan and idle), making not only the West, but also China dependent on our decisions. And all these 30 years we have been moaning about our unfortunate share, groveling before all even developing countries. What are you doing? Do you want to ruin Russia and destroy the Russians under these lamentations? Want to win, let's work. And start by reviewing this plan and ensuring it. Do not like it - bring down Russia further. For you have no chance to resist the current threats. And this, having all the opportunities to win!
  42. Romul_78
    Romul_78 April 12 2018 14: 08
    +3
    Quote: Alexsin
    Something the author’s advice is not clear. He advises, firstly, “to admit defeat and leave Syria.” That is, to hand over Syria to the Americans, who will immediately destroy Assad by the hands of their puppets from the opposition. And "Secondly, recognize Damascus as a strategic ally, Syria as a union state." How do you recognize Syria as a union state that the Americans will capture after Russia leaves it?
    "In the garden of elderberry, and in Kiev, uncle."

    Nichrome nobody understands anything. This war is needed to get out of the global crisis. The main task was to drag Russia there. Assad has nothing to do with it. Ask yourself why Obama did not strike Syria in his day? Yes, because it did not solve the problem of overcoming the crisis! The goal of all this is pulling Russia through the war out of the crisis. Open your eyes finally
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 12 2018 14: 59
      0
      And how does the presence of Russia in Syria help overcome the crisis? And here, in general, Russia, it is not the source of the crisis of Western civilization. Russia is now a scarecrow, from fear of which the West is trying to unite. It just doesn't work
  43. av58
    av58 April 12 2018 14: 11
    +2
    "... We have no friends and allies ..."
    Dear portal topwar.ru, stop publishing garbage from various hysterics like "Alexander Samsonov" laughing
  44. Chichikov
    Chichikov April 12 2018 14: 13
    +1
    Thus, Moscow can truly answer the “world community” only by abandoning the current vector of development as the cultural and economic periphery of European civilization, the raw material “pipe” of the West and East. Recognize the fallacy of the previous vector of development. Recognize the impossibility of convergence with the West.
    Surkov already said everything in his article “Loneliness as fate”
    “For four centuries Russia went to the East and another four centuries to the West. It’s not rooted there, ”says the assistant to the Russian president. - Both roads are passed. Now the ideologies of the third path will be in demand. ”
    So, everything was said a little earlier and it was quite possible to refer to the source as the basis for the author's personal conclusions.
  45. savage1976
    savage1976 April 12 2018 14: 14
    +1
    Quote: Every
    Monster_Fat (Yes, What a Difference) Today, 10:19 ↑ New
    For some reason, everyone in Russia believes that there will be a Third World War, but here in the crumpled media they write that there will not be a Third World War ("when the wall to wall"), but the war of the Coalition of Democratic States against Russia. Do you feel the difference? states against one single state, that is, they will be crushed by a whole pack of one enemy, with the tacit non-participation of other “spectators” —China, India, etc. who later expect to join the section of the tidbit of the conquered enemy who has remained in place ...

    Russia will not be able to withstand all countries of the "coalition of democratic states", this is understandable. We do not have enough resources, neither technical nor human. Those. the probability of defeat is great.
    Just March 1, GDP said bluntly, “we don’t need a world without Russia” That is Russia will go to the total destruction of the planet with the help of nuclear weapons. (enough strength for this).
    In other words, if Russia loses, then it will take all the others with it. Everyone will lose.

    You are confusing a bit, the article’s talk is still not about Russia and the war on our territory, but specifically about Syria and our base there. Absolutely different are war, strength, purpose. In Syria, we can’t even pit against these rabid jackals. The question is what will be the price of their victory.
  46. Fylhtq
    Fylhtq April 12 2018 14: 16
    +3
    The author wrote everything reasonably and convincingly, only except for the second option, Russia has no choice, designation of Syria as its ally, mobilization of resources, new industrialization, and the arrest of oligarchs.
  47. Radikal
    Radikal April 12 2018 14: 17
    +1
    Quote: av58
    "... We have no friends and allies ..."
    Dear portal topwar.ru, stop publishing garbage from various hysterics like "Alexander Samsonov" laughing

    "What is your evidence ?!" wassat tongue
  48. peace
    peace April 12 2018 14: 25
    +1
    With any of the options described in Russia - kirdyk. Because she can no longer “concentrate”, and there are many reasons for this. All the chances that were given to her in the 20th century have been lost forever.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro April 12 2018 15: 00
      0
      Another Katz offers to give up. Something today is a lot of you)
  49. Radikal
    Radikal April 12 2018 14: 38
    +3
    Yeah, the Guarantor would say: "Boring girls," O. Bender - "Sad girls!" bully I’ll say in a simple way - sectarianism on the site is progressing at an incredible speed! sad None of the critics of the author of the article cited a single counterargument regarding the facts indicated in the article - it all boils down to “Maidan” emotions such as “zrada”, “d-k himself,” and “liberal”. Although, those who write this do not suspect that defending and supporting the Main Liberal themselves are these "liberals"! So ... "Sad damsels"! crying bully
  50. alx666
    alx666 April 12 2018 14: 39
    +3
    I wonder what Alexander Samsonov smoked when he wrote this?