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Russia is not the USSR and the Russian Federation is not Russia

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It is necessary to clearly separate the wheat from the chaff.

The Communist USSR and its liberal successor today, the Russian Federation are these two socio-political systems that are not only alien from the beginning, but also hostile to Russian state-forming nature and its worldview.

Russia is not the USSR and the Russian Federation is not Russia


In 1917, the power in the Russian Empire was seized by the international-Marxist alien clique, which established a monstrous, until now unparalleled, bloody anti-national Bolshevik-communist regime of terror and total despotism. Russia and the Russian people were plunged into an unprecedented fratricidal Civil War and into the cannibalistic Moloch of the "class struggle".

Entire strata and estates of the Russian people, its elite and the backbone of the nation — the nobility, the clergy, the army, the Cossacks, the peasantry, workers and creative intellectuals, scientists and artists — were physically destroyed and dispersed into non-existence. The country was turned into one huge concentration camp, depriving it of its name and designating it under the virtually abstract name of the USSR.

For decades, the communist system has squeezed and eradicated from the human and civic consciousness of the Russian man his national memory and self-identification, raping, mocking and humiliating in various forms, his national pride and dignity, replacing and replacing these natural feelings with ugly ersatz substitutes of the type: "Soviet man and citizen "," world international fraternity "and" friendship of all countries and peoples ".

The Communist successors - gentlemen liberals, changed signs to the same virtually abstracted slogans - "free democratic society", "human rights" and other "liberal values", fully preserving and "multiplying" the basic approaches of their predecessors - the same anti-Russian, anti-national policy, replacing cosmopolitanism with internationalism, and complete, all-pervading disregard for the Russian people and their aspirations.

As a result, Russia and the Russian People, already a hundred years ago, are like Prometheus, chained to his native land by the chains of communist-liberal "doctrines" and "values", constantly putting pressure on his national, human and civic consciousness and preventing him from escaping to the freedom of your natural spirit and creation.
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  1. Gamdlislyam
    Gamdlislyam April 30 2012 07: 12
    +13
    It is difficult to comment on this opus. The author, not only does not know the history of the country, but also, it seems, is from Solzhenitsen's Memorial. And here the professional knowledge of a psychiatrist is already required. what
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim April 30 2012 07: 46
      +11
      Apparently the enemies crept into our site!
      1. Hleb
        Hleb April 30 2012 08: 04
        +19
        the author expressed his vision and discussion of this material can perhaps give him something new .. he did it openly .. immediately you write down anyone who is different from your opinion.
        1. Dust
          Dust April 30 2012 08: 15
          0
          The author has already made all the conclusions and is not going to discuss with anyone ...
          1. Winter
            Winter April 30 2012 21: 06
            +6
            The author’s words seem to be correct, only behind this correctness is a hidden call for massacre! Do we need it ???
            1. Paratov
              Paratov April 30 2012 21: 52
              +2
              This article is from the same line as the interview with the "Muslim" lawyer earlier! They work well! On all fronts!
      2. YARY
        YARY April 30 2012 08: 37
        +4
        Good day maxim
        They are full of them. And the article is poisonous Mr. Tso! angry recourse
        1. esaul
          esaul April 30 2012 09: 24
          +15
          Guys, I welcome you. I read the article once, re-read it one more time, having your comments in service and, honestly, did not see what could cause such a sharply negative reaction!
          What is the author wrong? Wasn't there a total destruction and humiliation of the human dignity of the Russian people through the eradication of its spiritual foundations, starting with the destruction of churches and temples, the burning of "bourgeois" books, executions of all who were branded as "bourgeois" or "fist"? without going into who and for what reasons put this stigma!
          Of course, this is very convenient - all obscurantism committed in those years should be blamed on some abstract Bolsheviks and try to present their current followers as true champions of blessings for today's Russia! And why is it so embarrassing to admit the bloody bathhouse that the Bolshevik comrades made for Russia? Yes, because I have to publicly admit that we went to all these crazy things in their cruelty, under the guidance of Trotsky, Zinoviev and others ... Bruevichs. And why is it now false to deny all this blood, saying that they were motivated only by concern for the welfare of a simple person? False supremacy! Everything was done in fulfillment and under the leadership of the Zionist lobby, which seeks to crush Russia for itself and turn it into an obedient and meek cattle, using the failures so successfully overlapped in the First World War.
          And isn’t the author right that the current Communists, crucifying themselves about total devastation, are joining with the current liberals in a single desire to prevent present-day Russia from rising to the high level that it deserves?
          I believe that in many respects the author is right, unless a little militant nationalism is a bit too much. I set - plus!
          1. sergo0000
            sergo0000 April 30 2012 09: 34
            +3
            Thank you Valery for your support! There isn’t much comment on the phone for everyone to answer! drinks
            1. esaul
              esaul April 30 2012 09: 43
              +5
              sergo0000,
              Sergey, welcome, buddy! And I am glad that you expressed your thoughts not afraid to be minus! I shake my hand, my friend! drinks
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 30 2012 09: 51
            +15
            Good afternoon, Valera, I didn’t ask a question long ago in an article about Lenin. What are the merits? What are the advantages? No one answered! The facts do not lead, just minus. Entering into a dispute in such a situation is extremely difficult; recognizing mistakes is very important. Ignorance of the history of the country may lead to a new tragedy, but this cannot be prevented!
            1. esaul
              esaul April 30 2012 10: 10
              +11
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              what are the merits, what are the advantages? No one answered!

              Alexander, welcome! But because the burden of sins outweighs the burden of good deeds.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Recognizing mistakes is very important. Ignorance of the history of the country may lead to a new tragedy, but this cannot be prevented!

              Absolutely solos, friend! Therefore, it is unfortunate that many of the younger generation do not bother to burden themselves with such information - why? It’s much more comfortable to get high from life (which I myself never refuse - a living person! laughing ) and do not strain the brain. Here, the right-wing Russians and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation should make their efforts to form a sense of dignity and pride in their NOT-ANGIED country for their country, and not go along with the liberals. In this case - the price would not be them!
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov April 30 2012 11: 01
                +16
                Valera, the communists, capitalists, liberals, democrats-got everything. When we all remember that we are primarily Russians, I think a lot will change and most importantly in people
              2. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov April 30 2012 22: 53
                +1
                Do not confuse Zyuganov with real communists. A feeling of pride in one’s country is formed by the successes of the country and leadership, an improvement in living standards and a sense of security, as well as social justice. And in our country, the law is completely different for an ordinary citizen and for friends of Pu.
                Somehow it doesn’t work
                http://demotivation.me/rfvc4a7hookcpic.html
          3. YARY
            YARY April 30 2012 10: 17
            +3
            Valery good day
            Our "sworn friends" from Sinai have a dogma-deprived of ora. Its meaning is simple in the Russian presentation - thought is material, and words are a statement of thought.
            A true thought can be used as a screen to hide lies, or stupidity, to push your ideas.
            Communism is an idea-the communists are people, and this is not the same thing.
            Just like FAITH, this is not a church. The fact that the idea is opposed is not new, nor is it new that the party is a group of people. And people are not without flaws.
            What happened to the party is the natural movement of the "organism" .Infected.
            The question is, what is the state? Also a group of (large) people with the same diseases. Russia-state? Yes. Then this state will be modified, only in contrast to the party, its modification can lead to a tragedy deeper than the death of the party.
            Therefore, any idea that unites people in Russia should be like an antibiotic for diseases, like a vaccine.
            I did not think that I would say such a thing, but the VKPb-CPSU were similar means of combating diseases. But any doctor will say that addiction occurs or the disease changes the code and new drugs are required. New ideas.
            Or old ones tested but with new genes.
            Vera, yes. The CPSU (or something similar) - yes. The Cheka-KGB is undoubtedly. There are a lot of tools, the main thing is to choose the right one. And the article does not have a main-impulse to the brain saying, THINK.
            Sincerely.
          4. Konstantm
            Konstantm April 30 2012 10: 26
            +1
            I agree. Plus.
            1. esaul
              esaul April 30 2012 10: 40
              +6
              YARY,
              Konstantm,
              Thanks guys for your support! Honestly, I thought to ogreb - in full, but I'm glad I was wrong! I am extremely glad that such guys are "guests" on the site! I shake your hands! drinks
          5. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2012 11: 39
            0
            Quote: esaul
            What is the author wrong about?

            I’ll try to explain my vision of his wrongness, if during an operation as a result of illiteracy or inaccuracy of the operation, the patient dies or remains crippled, this does not mean that the operation itself is harmful
          6. sichevik
            sichevik April 30 2012 12: 56
            +8
            Hi Valery! I fully support you at the expense of others ... Bruevichs. After all, indeed, all this nightmare-bloody chaos in Russia was started by the Zionists. And they created their own party ... And they arranged a terrible terror. And how much they destroyed the Russian intelligentsia ... And even now, the present true party members, with their actions and tricks, with their hypocrisy and venality, cause not only irritation, but also indignation.
            1. esaul
              esaul April 30 2012 16: 33
              +4
              sichevik,
              Vladislav, buddy, I welcome you and thank you for your support! drinks I noticed that your comments, my friend, have become less emotional, but more thoughtful and informative. This is a huge plus and I enjoy your support. drinks
            2. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov April 30 2012 22: 58
              +1
              "And how many Russian intelligentsia were destroyed by them .."
              Judging by the likes of Solzhenitsyn, Novodvorskaya, Svanidze, etc. "intelligentsia" was destroyed not enough!
              1. sichevik
                sichevik April 30 2012 23: 28
                +4
                Dear Alexander, I personally do not attribute all of the organisms listed above to the intelligentsia. This whole bunch most likely belongs to the category of "cattle mummers". After all, the Russian Intelligentsia has always served its Fatherland, its people. And to whom do these amoebas serve, we all perfectly loan ...
          7. Ross
            Ross April 30 2012 13: 09
            +7
            Emotions really interfere with sober analysis.
            On the one hand - a frank Zionist conspiracy. The one who managed to get acquainted with the protocols of the Sions of Zion (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CF%F0%EE%F2%EE%EA%EE%E%%%%B%F1%E8%EE%ED%F1% EA% E8%

            F5_% EC% F3% E4% F0% E5% F6% EE% E2; http://www.philosophy.ru/library/guenon/protocol.html) will understand that the revolution in Russia was registered at the end of the 19 century. In addition to this, the Jewish masson Adam Smith at the end of the 18 century prescribed the future economic idea of ​​liberalism and laid the foundations for future Marxism. Therefore, in essence, the author is more than right - both communism and liberalism - twin brothers, developed by the Zionists. But, our Russian soul has always strived for justice. Once he digested classical Christianity for himself, under his folk traditions, he digested the Russian people and Jewish communism. With the help of the wise leader of Stalin, Trotsky's communism has changed beyond recognition.
            But starting with Khrushchev, we were again led in a different direction.
            Of course, over the last ten years 20 we all saw and experienced the true grin of liberalism with all its ulcers. Therefore, I think - this is a good vaccine for us from this infection. It is hoped that now no provocateurs can deceive anymore. It's like a child, do not say so much: don’t grab the kettle, you will burn yourself! Until he tries, he won’t remember.
            1. esaul
              esaul April 30 2012 16: 34
              +3
              Quote: Ross
              Therefore, I think - this is a good vaccine for us from this infection. It is hoped that now no provocateurs can deceive anymore. It's like a child, do not say so much: don’t grab the kettle, you will burn yourself! Until he tries, he won’t remember.

              Eugene, - good
            2. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov April 30 2012 23: 13
              0
              Ross, it seems that Zionism is such a universal bugaboo. The revolution was staged by the Zionists, the Zionists began to take power, Hitler was forced to attack the USSR by Zionists, and the Zionists also destroyed the USSR. And tell me. more synagogues under communists or liberals? And by the way, the theme of the mythical Holocaust was also introduced in the curriculum under liberals!
              http://www.ymuhin.ru/node/726/paskhalxnyi-podarok-iz-telx-aviva
              Is that again a Zionist conspiracy? Or maybe the Russian people have so lost their identity and principles that they are ruled by crooks! And instead of fighting this, we again write off everything to the Zionists?
          8. rexby63
            rexby63 April 30 2012 14: 23
            +7
            Valery, good afternoon. Regarding the destruction of the elite. Look at all these Yusupovs, Obolenskys, 17 years old, so you involuntarily begin to understand your ancestor, a peasant of the early 20th century. Now the numbers: in the officer corps of the tsarist army on 25.10.1917/157/884 there were 127 officers, of which 508 served in combat units. In the first Kuban (Ice) campaign, 2350 officers took part, of which only 400 were hereditary nobles (elites). The question is - where were the rest of the "elite" at that time? Do not even answer, it will be a shame in advance. Not for myself, for them. What reason was there to feed and listen to such an "elite" for a simple peasant?
            1. esaul
              esaul April 30 2012 16: 57
              +4
              rexby63,
              Alexander, greetings, buddy! I agree that it is hardly worth delving into the jungle of the moral image of the nobility of that time! Some of my favorite books are books from the "Library of the White Guard Novel" and everything is told and analyzed there without any bias. As always, the main burden of all the hardships falls on the shoulders of the minority, who are the best representatives of the ethnic group, and the rest are either detached observers or ordinary bubbly foam. If many of those cadets who laid down their heads in all the campaigns of the Civil had survived, the country would have received invaluable genetic and moral potential in their person, because these campaigns allowed many of their participants (and not only cadets) to realize what is the common goal, what is the defense of the fatherland and what is military brotherhood, regardless of class and membership in a social group. Okay - it has incurred ... Good luck, Sasha. Shake your hand. drinks
              1. rexby63
                rexby63 1 May 2012 11: 33
                +1
                Regarding youth, I agree, and I want to add about "forever twenty" in the Great Patriotic War. They are missing more and more.
          9. Cadet787
            Cadet787 April 30 2012 16: 57
            +3
            Hello Valery! I fully support you, you cannot throw out the words from the song that it was, it was, this is our story, and we must draw the right conclusions, otherwise the "swamp" people will lead the country into a dead end. Article +.
            1. esaul
              esaul April 30 2012 17: 32
              +3
              Cadet787,
              George, glad to see you on the site, buddy! Good luck drinks
          10. Prorox
            Prorox April 30 2012 17: 36
            +2
            Greetings to Valera, so I don’t understand why to rush from one extreme to another, while categorically blaming some for everything negative and bleaching others for a turn.
            1. esaul
              esaul April 30 2012 18: 10
              +3
              Quote: Prorox
              from one extreme to another,

              Kostya, welcome! What to do, such is the nature and psychology of most people - to approach others with high demands and expectations and forgive oneself for "little weaknesses" laughing Thanks for the support, buddy! drinks
              1. Prorox
                Prorox April 30 2012 18: 35
                +2
                That's just the point, it cut it black, and it’s white, why it’s hard to sort out the nuances of the brain, and so someone goes for one, someone for the opposite, win-win option (trader’s dream), cheap and angry.
          11. Prophet Alyosha
            Prophet Alyosha April 30 2012 19: 07
            +1
            Great article !!!
          12. aksakal
            aksakal April 30 2012 19: 16
            +6
            Yesaul, welcome!
            And I pushed the article minus ..
            Quote: esaul
            What is the author wrong? Wasn't there a total destruction and humiliation of the human dignity of the Russian people through the eradication of its spiritual foundations, starting with the destruction of churches and temples, the burning of "bourgeois" books, executions of all who were branded as "bourgeois" or "fist"? without going into who and for what reasons put this stigma!
            - it was, alas, it was !!! Yes, the trouble is, Stalin came to power and expelled everyone
            Quote: esaul
            ... Bruevich
            .
            I would not expel - at this point, the Russian people would be completely destroyed !!!!! This activity ... The Bruevichs still need to be thoroughly investigated, evaluated and asked in full from the descendants who are now found in satiety and in good health somewhere in the Middle East. AND THIS DEMAND WILL BE !!!!!!!!!!! am am am am
            The activities of Stalin, with all its minuses, I would not put unambiguously minus !!!! Yes, there was a cult of personality, yes, there was ideological oppression, yes there were repressions and all other charms. But it was also that Stalin took Russia with a plow, and left Russia without five minutes as the first SPACE power. Will you deny it? Let’s listen with pleasure!
            Usually they do not deny, because the obvious is difficult to deny, and even impossible. They start chants on the topic - "Isn't the price too expensive for medernization?" ... There is only one answer - there is no other price !! And it won't !!! The Japanese emperor at the end of the nineteenth century almost completely cut out the samurai, cut it out as a class, for the sake of modernization. The result is that in a couple of decades Japan successfully opposes the giant empire - Russia.
            Turkey also paid a considerable price for modernization. Who carried out this upgrade? Ataturk. The result - Turkey is now far from a lagging power. To summarize and draw conclusions: if you want to be a modern state, but at the same time do not bother to create an innovative system of state building, such that it would update the state system in an evolutionary mode - be kind, from time to time do a large-scale modernization with a good price. In the form of human lives. There was no other and never will be !!! Because in nature there is no other way!

            Therefore, the author for pouring mud on the USSR is a healthy minuscule !!!! Incidentally, in terms of social protection of the USSR there were no equal in the world. Those social things and norms that are now available in developed countries are thanks to the USSR. They were forced to introduce these standards, otherwise they looked completely cannibalistic against the background of the USSR! So let the same simple amers thank the USSR they hate, at least for that! Otherwise, these developed countries would be uncompetitive! The liberal model does not provide for social and no protection whatsoever; it is natural selection in its purest form. The strongest survives! But only in the weakest is a mother of many children, who turned out to be a widow. Or a senior citizen. Such a system on the Eurasian territory is not needed! And while my generation is alive, and while it still decides something, there WILL BE NO LIBERAL MODEL in the Eurasian space !!!!! am angry And let the liberals do what they want !!!!
            Minus the author and for accusing today's Russia of liberalism. This is not true. Russia is not a liberal country, and thank God! There are elements of liberalism in the economy, I will not deny. And Russia is moving in the same direction as China is going - this is a harmonious combination of an authoritarian political system in the version of the so-called. "enlightened authoritarianism" and liberal economics. This is perfectly reasonable. The lack of freedom in the economy leads to an economy like the DPRK, ineffective and weak. And the presence of excessive freedoms in politics leads to a cannibalistic system. And the truth, as always, is in the middle.
            In general, the minus to the author. Just drool and spray, nothing constructive.
            1. esaul
              esaul April 30 2012 21: 50
              +2
              aksakal,
              Aksakal, welcome, buddy! this minus does not discourage me at all since I know your aspirations and (I dare to hope) your views. These are the views of a patriot and a caring, intelligent person. And this is not an empty compliment, but a statement of fact. This is your opinion and it makes you look at this issue from a slightly different angle, and this is interesting! Good luck buddy! drinks And I "push" you - a plus! laughing
            2. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov April 30 2012 23: 34
              +1
              Hello Aksakal, your look at Stalin was very pleased. but somewhat surprised by the following words:
              "The liberal model does not provide for any social or any protection at all, this is natural selection in its purest form. The strongest survives! Only the weakest is a mother of many children who turns out to be a widow. Or a pensioner. Such a system is not needed on the Eurasian territory! And while my generation is alive, and while it still decides something, there will be NO LIBERAL MODEL in the Eurasian space !!!!! And let the liberals do what they want !! "
              In my opinion, they accurately describe the current state of affairs in Russia. And kakraz liberalists do what they want, Chubais, Abramovich, Prokhorov, etc. if they want, they buy factories, they want, they are elected as deputies, they want to go to the courtyard with the girls — please, they want to sell the plant to foreigners — please, why not the power of the liberals! Americans want to drive military supplies through the territory of the Russian Federation - please! Norway wants a piece of the sea - please, the state will not become poor!
              Now about the liberal economy: This type of economy is beneficial only to the cowardly leader of the state, who says - the economy is free-floating - where it will float out - it will float out there, I will not answer for anything. You understand the laws of the market!
              Our economy has reached its greatest prosperity with state planning, i.e. with clear management of the economy by the state! It is not a mythical "market" that should determine how many tractors should be produced (this is a losing situation in advance), the structure of the State Planning Committee should set the task for the industry how many tractors should be produced, and only then there will be no excess or a shortage. The liberal model of the economy is like an airplane without control, everyone hopes that it will not fly below the earth, and that it will not rise above the stratosphere, but there are nuances!
              "
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 2 May 2012 07: 59
                -1
                I will visit both Esaul and Mirnov. Thanks for the kind words.
                Quote: S_mirnov
                Our economy has reached its greatest prosperity with state planning, i.e. with clear management of the economy by the state! It is not a mythical "market" that should determine how many tractors should be produced (this is a losing situation in advance), the structure of the State Planning Committee should set the task for the industry how many tractors should be produced, and only then there will be no excess or a shortage. The liberal model of the economy is like a plane without control, everyone hopes that it will not fall below the ground
                - I don't quite agree. The planned economy is now in the DPRK. Is it good there? And what did the existence of a planned economy lead to in the USSR? For example, the Ministry of the Shoe Industry (this is an exaggerated example) with the State Planning Committee approve a plan for the production of so many million pairs of shoes in accordance with GOST for such and such. Under this plan, leather, rubber, glue and others stand out. According to GOST, it's cool, the shoe is good. the foot is like a glove, instep supports, everything. But the trouble is - outside of fashion trends ("where is the beveled heel and the pointed toe?"), The design is terrible and in general looks like a pair of ... gold-gold shoes.
                They released the party, fulfilled the plan, shipped it to the shops, received salaries and bonuses for the implementation of the plan. It seems everyone is happy, everyone is laughing. Only the consumer is dissatisfied and, by and large, the economy - the goods are frozen in stores, people are not like the chervonets - they do not want to take them for free! There is no turnover, but the skin and all things are wasted. So much for non-market planning.
                Planning is necessary, but it must somehow be adapted precisely to the market model of the economy. For example, the same department of the shoe industry in the Ministry of Industry and Trade (I exaggerate again, all the characters are made up, coincidences are random) first measures what is the share of domestic shoes in the domestic market. Well, for this you need to develop a technology for measuring data on the market, so that the error would be minimal. But this is a matter of technology.
                In fact, the market share of domestic shoes in the domestic market is low, 30 percent. The rest is China, Turkey and others. Hence the plan is born: to increase the share by such a period by so many percent. There is one more difficulty - enterprises in the production of footwear are mostly private, the State Planning Commission broadcasts on behalf of the state. But I did not see an entrepreneur refusing state support, especially when interests - an increase in market share - coincide. It means that it is necessary to work out the issues of public-private partnership to conclude agreements and take mutual obligations to implement the plan.
                Well, this is my vision of this problem, IMHO. And then archaic planning is proved, it is not workable
          13. Ascetic
            Ascetic April 30 2012 21: 19
            +7
            After the creation of the World Zionist Organization (WZO) in 1897 and many others — there were about 500 of them in Russia at the beginning of the revolution — Zionism became visible to the world. This served the opinion that the ideology and practice of Zionism precisely at that time were created; in fact, the Zionists simply went to legal “work” - Zionism has been practicing its ideology for three thousand years.
            the Zionists in a massive way went into the revolutionary movement of Russia (they, in fact, participated in it before: in the Decembrist movement, in the liberal and democratic, in the populist, in the organization of social democratic circles - that's all, of course, with their goals - subordinating movements to the tasks of Zionism).
            Seizing the initiative from the Russian Social Democrats, the Zionists in 1898 (note immediately after the creation of the World Zionist Organization in 1897) organized the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party (9 delegates attended the first congress of the RSDLP, 8 of them Zionists: Katz, Mutnik, Tuchapsky, Kremer, Petrusevich, Eidelman, Vannovsky, Wigdorchik; only 89% of the congress). The Zionists, from the remnants of the Narodnik movement, in 1902 organized the Socialist Revolutionary Party (the Zionist Gotz played a large role here). They created the parties of the Cadets, People’s Socialists, etc. (The principle of Zionism: in different ways and means, towards one goal!
            The top leadership of the party, state, public organizations, people's commissariats, departments was overwhelmingly Zionist (in Petrograd in the summer of 1918, there were 271 Zionists and only 17 non-Zionists in the upper echelon of power, and 265 of these 271 arrived at one time, with Trotsky from New York. it was not Lenin who ruled the country, but Trotsky.
            The work of the Zionists - the device of the promised land for themselves (from Russia and with Russian slaves, of course) - has begun. Moreover, Trotsky pulled towards the seizure of world power - towards the "world revolution" - the theory of "permanent revolution" of Trotsky. A. Zinoviev, Kamenev, Rykov and others, dressing up as Bolsheviks, the Zionists were tuned to the promised land in Russia - this is, in fact, the fundamental difference between the positions of Zinoviev and Trotsky, and not just personal ambitions, as we are now told.
            Zionists organized a civil war. It was beneficial for them to interrupt the color of the Russian people - depriving the people of possible leaders, carriers of culture, a strong gene pool, and, on the other hand, representatives of "their barricade" - the best workers and peasants. They needed (the Zinoviev’s line prevailed here) to undermine the strength of the Russian people — for better subsequent processing — to turn Zion, his slaves into an obedient weapon, but Trotsky’s civil war was profitable — he hoped to stand at the head of the revolutionary armies and, defeating the internal enemy, to throw these armies, then, to the enemy of the outside — other countries, organizing inside them decomposition, sabotage, sabotage, coups and revolutions (with the help of Zionists and pro-Zionists in these countries, as well as using the real revolutionaries there), making the “world revolution”. During the civil war, the Zionists at the same time solved another problem. They organized (using parts of the Red Army - the chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council of the country, after all, there was Trotsky) the Jewish pogrom in Seversk. And the result was the law of July 27, 1918, “On Pogromists,” according to which monstrous Zionist terror raged in the country for 10 years: when accused of anti-Semitism, a person was declared a thief and talked against the wall without talking, and you can blame anti-Semitism there were anti-Zionists, and the best representatives of the Russian intelligentsia, and, in general, anyone - people saw who hosted the country and expressed dissatisfaction with this. And the Cheka was ninety percent manned by the Zionists. By the way, in addition to the law on rioters, genocide, in relation to the Russian peoples, was carried out by the Zionists through accusations of counter-revolutionary activity, sabotage, etc., regardless of whether such activities were carried out by these people or not - and, as usual, to the wall !, Trotsky organized concentration camps in 1918 - a monstrous machine for the extermination of the Russian people, a machine for suppressing and intimidation, a machine for undivided power.
            Stalin, - let the Zionists in 1937-1938 through the system they created — the system that by that time had already grinded a huge part of our people. Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, etc. — that’s who stood at the head of the camps. And the overwhelming majority of the victims, which are now attributed to the times of Stalinist repressions, refer, in fact, to pre -alin times - to the first years after the revolution and civil war. , the actual leadership of the country at that time was with Trotsky; then the country was ruled by an apparatus in which the Zionists had a huge advantage until 1937-1938 - only after that the actual leadership of the country passed to Stalin and his apparatus - everything that was done locally before was done in the name of Stalin, but not by any means To Stalin. Especially, this should be attributed to collectivization. The excesses with the dispossession of the middle peasant, the mass repressions against the peasants are the work of the pro-Zionist apparatus, which was even glad to occasionally work on the gene pool of our people once again — towards its deterioration.
            The pro-Zionist press is now scolding Stalin for the fact that he de worked only solely for the sake of his power, de lust for power led him. No! Although he worked, admittedly, by not very worthy methods, he took them from his enemies - the Zionists in favor of the people. He defended the very life of the people, their development. Zionists, after all, really were enemies of the people. And by the way, he defended our lives too! For, the Zionists, after the victory, will leave only purebred Jews to live on Earth, all the rest are just dust, and the dust must be erased. Why did the Zionists miss Stalin, why didn’t they eliminate him at the very beginning or later? He tricked them! They thought he was his own. His second wife, Alliluyeva, was Jewish. Stalin, at the beginning of his general secretary’s career, surrounded himself with Jews: until the very 37th year, it was not obvious that his main goal was the elimination of Zionism in the country, and after 37, Stalin pretended to have no complaints against the Zionists: Lazar Moiseevich Kaganovich (being, rightly by his name, a convenient cover for Stalin - from accusations of anti-Semitism) was one of Stalin's closest assistants and even survived him a lot. Incidentally, in this sense, the Zionists nevertheless outplayed Stalin — their centuries-old practice: no matter what happens, no matter how many Jews are sacrificed — the most important thing is that at least one Zionist remains at the top — the cause of Zionism he will be able to revive; this, and indeed, Kaganovich did after the death of Stalin, doing this, however, already in the war and post-war years.
            The way Stalin eliminated Trotsky using Zinoviev and Kamenev, and then eliminated the latter using Rykov and Bukharin is widely known. . Less well-known is different: Zionists in the party and state apparatus began to be cleaned up already in 1929, and, moreover, they did not use open measures: arrest, trial, but secret ones. And now, starting from this moment, Stalin finds himself in a situation where, even in the future, he may be declared a political criminal. The methods of his work (borrowed, however, as already mentioned, from his opponents - the Zionists - "Live with wolves — howl like a wolf!") Went far beyond the practice of civilized countries. But he deliberately went for it. In other ways, he did not see any possibility of eliminating Zionism. Secret methods of eliminating opponents required too much cost and, starting in 1931, became significantly cheaper: Zionists, pro-Zionists and hooked Zionists began to be declared oppositionists and counter-revolutionaries, arrested, given the appearance of court and liquidated. This method is associated with the appearance of Beria near Stalin. If Stalin had openly declared that he was removing the Zionists, the latter would immediately have accused him of anti-Semitism. Moreover, then Stalin would have lost power that hour, for, as already mentioned, the Zionists in the leadership at that time prevailed. The situation changed only after the purges of 1937-1938. But even then, Stalin could not openly declare that, of course, they were not counterrevolutionaries, spies, saboteurs, conspirators, etc., but simply Zionists, with their methods and goals, simply enemies of the people. And he was forced to resort to false accusations in order to rid the peoples of the Soviet Union of the greatest danger, to rid the peoples of their worst enemies. But, in the face of the Nazi invasion, it was impossible to declare your struggle against the Zionist Jews - he would have been declared a racist. In addition, it would be a powerful undermining of Stalin's authority - to declare publicly that he was forced to resort to deception. And yet, he hoped that the remaining Zionists understood everything and would continue to serve the country, and not work for the goals of Zion. In 1932, Stalin's hands were finally untied: his Jewish wife committed suicide (it is possible that this is not suicide, but someone else's work). And here it was a mistake of the Zionists that Stalin was not eliminated at the 17th Party Congress in 1934. They tried to do this, but for some reason they did not complete the question, was it because their new protege Kirov - also with his Jewish wife (Marcus) - refused to go against Stalin and the Zionists had to kill him?
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic April 30 2012 21: 22
              +6
              Stalin understood that it was impossible to procrastinate. And, having thoroughly prepared, he made a massive blow to the Zionists in 1937-1938. A large number of Zionists, prosionists, taken by the Zionists and working for them, were arrested and repressed, for the most part, with far-fetched pretexts. But here our planning system worked, sometimes giving very negative consequences of its essence. In addition to those who really belonged to the pro-Zionist elements, a huge number of those who were very useful to the country were actively repressed. Several factors contributed to this. First, the ambiguity of the installation: who is the enemy? Secondly, the desire of both central and local authorities to distinguish themselves - it was so fashionable for us to overfulfill the plans (however, as well as to fulfill them at all costs)! Thirdly, here was the direct work of Zionism: the Zionists understood Stalin’s goal and decided, leaving, to harm him as much as possible; each arrested Zionist called allegedly participating in their counter-revolutionary, espionage, etc. organizations and activities, honest people: the best, smartest, most devoted - party and non-partisan. And those under physical influence during interrogations (a measure, incidentally, put into practice by the Zionists back in 1918) took the blame on themselves, thereby signing a death sentence. There are cases when those honest people who endured torture and denied their guilt were released - the future commissar Kovpak Rudnev, for example.
              Now they say: how was it possible, on the eve of the war with Hitler, to deliver such a crushing, powerful blow to your own army? And imagine what would have happened if this had not been done? The personnel of the army was entirely pro-Zionist: even Trotsky, being the chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council of the republic, took great care to do this, and besides, the Zionists, once they penetrated any system, always try, then, to penetrate it with their people.

              In the “Protocols of the Zion of the Wise Men,” to substitute goals and to show how wise their rule will be, it is said that the goal of Zionism is the establishment of the kingdom of Zion on earth with the rational administration of their king by all the peoples of the earth; slavery, but slaves live relatively well. Slavery is unreliable. History shows that the slave system, in the end, collapses slaves.
              1. esaul
                esaul April 30 2012 21: 43
                +2
                Ascetic,
                Stanislav, I salute and bow to such a "scorching" and thorough comment! Thank you very much and - plus! good drinks Bravo, man!
              2. Ross
                Ross April 30 2012 23: 44
                +4
                Stanislav! Just shine, clear and understandable. I want to add a little.
                The Illuminati at the end of the 19 century designated the following doctrine.
                Adam Smith in his work proclaimed: "No country can legally live, using the principle of the gold standard in the economy, if we want peace in the world." It's funny to remember that all this was set forth in 1776, because that same year, Adam Weishaupt received money to create the Illuminati in Bavaria. Perhaps Smith was well paid for his work, as was Weishaupt.
                Further, the Zionists have been unswervingly implementing this concept for more than 200 years. In 1913, after a bitter backstage struggle, ten leading Jewish bankers in the United States created the Fed. Immediately, the implementation of Smith's ideas begins: "If one country has gold and the other does not, the country that owns gold becomes a target for invasion. Natural human greed and cruelty will inevitably push the people of a country deprived of gold to attack another country, hoping to steal it. The only way to solve the problem is to make sure that no people have a currency backed by gold. " The First World War begins. The goal is to destroy the leading players, rivals of the Anglo-Saxons - the German and Russian empires. What was the first thing the Zionist communists did in Russia? Total requisitions of gold from the population! Check out Bunich-Gold Party. There is an excellent report based on documents from those years. 90% of the gold pieces of old Russia migrated to the Fed banks. There is no data on Germany, but I think that there was the same fate. Why did the Zionists hate the Russian and German monarchies so much? In the conditions of autocracy, it is impossible to effectively conduct your demagogic policy. Before World War I, England had a gold reserve of about $ 1 billion, while after World War I it owed America, or rather the FRS, $ 4 billion.
                Immediately after the end of the war, through the US president, the Fed tried to create an analogue of today's UN League of Nations controlled by the United States, and hence the Fed. Did not work out.
                In the 1700's, it was well known that most of the world's gold settled in Asia. Adam Smith and the people who financed him were obviously well aware of the huge treasury hidden there. Therefore, when creating the imaginary currency, the number one enemy was Asia. For the introduction of a new economic system, gold had to be removed and hidden. The only way to do this is to invade and rob China and its neighbors. It took over 150 years to implement the plan, but the most amazing thing is that it really worked.
                JAPAN FOUND KEY
                The British Empire, secretly led by the Rothschild clan, saw Japan as the best country as a springboard for the subsequent theft of all Asian gold. It was a medieval country with underdeveloped technology, but a huge populated center. Britain supplied the Satsuma and Choshu clans in southern Japan with modern weapons and military strategies, and they quickly subjugated the rest of the country.
                This led to the Meiji Restoration in 1868, when youth came to power in Japan. The term “Meiji” means “Enlightened Board”, and therefore the name “Meiji” is equivalent to the Western term “Illuminati”. It took time and a lot of money to conquer and plunder China, to make Japan powerful enough. Japan has become a grand bet, funded by the most powerful and secret power in the world. That is why Japan has experienced the fastest economic boom and acceptance of Western values ​​in recorded history that began immediately after the Meiji Restoration. In less than forty years, a medieval country has become a modern and competitive power.
                Japan was very active in the First World War.
                As early as 1871, World War I was planned by Giuseppe Mazzini, head of European Freemasonry, and Albert Pike, head of Freemasonry in America. Their plans are proudly on display at the National Museum Library in London.
                By 1921, it became clear that nothing had changed in the world. The rich became richer and the poor even poorer. As they said later, no one “won” the war. Inside the insider circles of the world community, the gold standard was blamed for everything, for the reasons stated by Adam Smith in the Wealth of Nations back in 1776. The degree of cruelty of suffering due to the gold standard was sufficient to convince the Emperor of Japan Hirohito in 1921 to travel to the UK and sign a secret pact on the establishment of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS).
                BIS was created by the founders of the Federal Reserve, which began its operations seven years earlier. The BIS was intended to expand the power of the Federal Reserve to the whole globe, ... and it worked.
                In the 1920's, the plan adopted by Hirohito was secretly supported by several other countries. It took time, but agreement was reached in less than ten years, and the public learned about the new alliance. Voluntarily or involuntarily, all the most significant gold and silver reserves in the world fell into the hands of the Federal Reserve and the Bank for International Settlements, then they were “blacklisted”, that is, removed from the market.
                The idea was not to destroy all the gold and treasures, it would be a stupid and unnecessary tragedy. Instead, world leaders were told that they should put all their gold in custody. Secret storage. Each country would own its gold, only at first the public would be told that it disappeared or never existed. Asians, of course, did not publicly declare how much gold they had, so the whole story turned out to be easy to keep secret.
                In exchange for gold, bonds were issued

                Each country that transferred its gold and / or taken from it by force was issued with certificates of custody or bonds in exchange for what they gave back. Bonds were issued by the Federal Reserve through various banks in major cities in the United States. They were considered as valuable and repayable as cash. But the problem is that the Federal Reserve printed much, much, much more money in bonds than existed in the most open honest economy — trillions and trillions of dollars since the 1920's.
                At the moment, about 3 million tons of gold are in "black" storage, while officially there are no more than 400000 tons in the economy.
                Courts in the United States have now begun from owners of 30's gold bonds.
                The amounts payable are huge and if the courts call on the Fed to pay off the debt, the Fed will crash. That is why today the United States has Southeast Asia, a priority region for the vital interests of the United States!
              3. rexby63
                rexby63 1 May 2012 13: 03
                +1
                Bravo! A plus!
            2. Vadim555
              Vadim555 April 30 2012 23: 33
              +3
              Quote: Ascetic
              it was not Lenin who ruled the country, but Trotsky.


              Allow to add one detail to your excellent review -
              Sverdlov was "black" cardinal, and when he was slaughtered, then Trotsky came out on top.
              PS. Pay attention, there is almost no information about Sverdlov, only "water".
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic 1 May 2012 00: 49
                +6
                Quote: Vadim555
                Sverdlov was a "black" cardinal, and when he died, then Trotsky came out on top.


                In May 1917 Under the interim government, the All-Russian Zionist Congress took place, the essence of which was how to make Russia a large province of Israelis. The naive Russian intelligentsia, however, as always, did not take this seriously. (One must know the attitude to Jewish issues and the place of settled in Tsarist Russia). And in May 1918. Zionists held a congress of Jewish communities in Moscow. The main slogan of the congress - long live militant Zionism! With the help of the chairman of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, Yakov Movshovich Sverdlov, the law on the death penalty for anti-Semitism was dragged through the Council of People's Commissars. Its essence is if a voice was raised against an Israeli, they were not accepted for work or study, judicial responsibility, up to execution.
                "But they didn't even stand in power, what if they were?" (Stalin)
                1917 - Trotsky flew to the revolution, before that living comfortably in Europe and the United States
                Council of People's Commissars - Russians-2 (Lenin? And Chicherin), Armenians -1, Georgians-1, Jews-12
                The military commissariat, led by Trotsky, - there are no Russians, Latvian-1, 34 Jews.
                People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs (punitive body) - all Jews.
                People's Commissariat of Finance - of 30 people, 26 Jews.
                People's Commissariat of Justice - 18 Jews.
                With regards to Sverdlovap, his main "exploits" are the organization of the "ritual" murder of the royal family and the decossackization of the Don (cite data on the destruction of 1 million or more Cossacks).
                1. Vadim555
                  Vadim555 1 May 2012 02: 25
                  +2
                  Quote: Ascetic
                  1917 - Trotsky flew to the revolution, before that living comfortably in Europe and the United States
                  Council of People's Commissars - Russians-2 (Lenin? And Chicherin), Armenians -1, Georgians-1, Jews-12
                  The military commissariat, led by Trotsky, - there are no Russians, Latvian-1, 34 Jews.
                  People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs (punitive body) - all Jews.
                  People's Commissariat of Finance - of 30 people, 26 Jews.
                  People's Commissariat of Justice - 18 Jews.


                  Creators of the "Russian" revolution of 1917
                  http://pioss.net/blog/history/81.html

                  Corrected the photo
          14. Nick
            Nick April 30 2012 21: 48
            -1
            One thing in the article does not suit me, Valery. The role of the Russian people in all the events described in the article. Everyone around is to blame - Marxists, internationalists, liberals, etc., and the Russian people "... was thrown into ...". It's a shame for the Russian people. You read the article and think what kind of people they are, they are being destroyed by whole estates, "... Whole strata and estates of the Russian people, its elite and the backbone of the nation - the nobility, clergy, army, Cossacks, peasantry, workers and creative intelligentsia, scientists and artists, were physically destroyed and scattered into oblivion." the author writes, and the people, like cattle, meekly await slaughter. And who is doing all this? Which enemy? Whose hordes trample Russian land?

            Read more: http://topwar.ru/13964-rossiya-eto-ne-sssr-i-ne-rossiyskaya-federaciya-eto-rossi
            ya.html
            1. esaul
              esaul April 30 2012 22: 17
              +1
              Nick,
              Buddy, but you must admit - all this happened and this happened - with PEOPLE! And, it seems to me that it’s not grateful to indulge in verbal picks about the role of the people themselves in certain events. No one disputes that the people were the main ruling force of all events, but the people made them in pursuance of certain ideas that bring PERSONALITIES!
              In order not to carry this whole topic for a long time, I urge you to listen, as to the summary conclusion, Victor’s comment in this thread -

              Quote: Victor
              Hence the well-known conclusion: History is not done by the masses, but by individuals who have ascended to the top of power because of the indifference and unwillingness to strain the bulk of the people living in our country.

              Sincerely. Esaul. drinks
          15. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov April 30 2012 22: 31
            -2
            A sharply negative reaction to this article is the reaction of a normal decent citizen of Russia. If someone has forgotten, then it must be recalled that it was under the leadership of the Communists that our country achieved the greatest successes in its history and won the Great Victory in the World War! (for comparison, remember the results of the First World War) This indisputable fact infuriates such scoundrels as Mark Salonin, Suvorov-Rezun, Svanidze, etc. and then they rush to blacken the history of their country, because then modern thieves in power do not look so vile. Now it is very "fashionable" to scold the communists (remember that Gorbachev started this business, Yeltsin and Putin continued These are just links of the same chain) but try to read the charter of the communist party and the principles of communists and tell me what you don't like the priority of the interests of society over the interests of the individual, for example or other items. They will scream about the squeezing of the national identity of the peoples in the USSR - but ask yourself the question who destroyed the "nationality" column in the passport, who did it interfere with? communists? - no!
            All attacks on the communist regime usually boil down to the following:
            Option No. 1 Communists are Sadists, Stalin is an attacker, and as a result, the results of World War II must be reviewed!
            Variant number 2. Yes, now it’s hard for us to live, but before, under the communists, half of the country was sitting, and the other half was guarding it, so put up with thieves in power, otherwise you'll sit under the communists!
            For some reason, the blame for the victims of the Civil War is blamed on the Communists! This is what the Communists sold the Russian lands and factories to foreigners, so sold out that the people arranged a revolution! Think about it, if now in our country the nationalization of land, forests and factories is carried out, whether modern Chubbays and Abromovich will give them away without a fight, and even foreign capital will be sent by expeditionary forces, here you have a war. But this is when it is necessary to return the property of the people, and when it is sold, then there are no obvious victims (well, except for the impoverished population of the country). And everything in the country is STABLE and the GUARANTEE is great!
            So before you scold the communists - answer yourself - who are you compared to the real Communists? With those who lie in mass graves under the extinguished "Eternal Flame", because gas does not belong to the people, because it is very expensive to burn it on the graves of the Heroes!
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2012 22: 41
              +2
              Quote: S_mirnov
              for comparison, remember the results of the First World

              Well, this comparison is not correct, because as for the sake of problems for the German front were thanks to the revolution
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov April 30 2012 23: 42
                0
                Yah! And I thought because of corruption, the disgusting supply of the army, the rag-king, the power of the liberals, etc. Did the Brusilov breakthrough stop the revolutionaries? The revolution is nothing more than a response to the lawlessness of the power of thieves. Previously, people were not stupider than you and me, and to die for no reason, for universal justice - who the hell would have gone when. And since they went to power with weapons, it means that it was completely hot!
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 1 May 2012 09: 17
                  -1
                  1 what a poke
                  2 rear connections went to power with weapons
                  3 ... For the years 1914-1916. the German army lost 1739 thousand on the Eastern Front, and the Austrian - 2623 thousand people killed, wounded and captured. In the spring of 1917 a general offensive of the Entente armies was planned on the Western and Eastern fronts, which, however, was prevented by the February revolution.
          16. FiremanRS
            FiremanRS 1 May 2012 08: 38
            -1
            In the context of the article, the author is three times wrong! You, dear, have decided to dig deeper. However, what is condemned in the article? THE USSR? current Russia? According to the USSR, it was already and has become history. Yes, there are not very beautiful moments in it, but nevertheless, we have lived in communism for 70 years and still use its fruits. Now Russia has just climbed out of the devastation and collapse, and the torturer is again lifted from her knees. I can only comment on what is happening. Why did the author not mention a little older events in Russia, and by the way no less bloody and destructive? In general - a minus article, but you once again surprised me. only this time it’s not nice ((
      3. domokl
        domokl April 30 2012 09: 33
        +4
        If a person has an opinion, then it has the right to be expressed ... Only it is stated so unclear that I don’t even want to argue ... It’s rather difficult to discuss who is who, it’s simply because the positions of the debaters are sometimes diametrically opposed ..
        1. 755962
          755962 April 30 2012 19: 46
          +6
          "We are Russians, we will overcome everything." A.V. Suvorov.
    2. Krilion
      Krilion 1 May 2012 05: 48
      0
      I didn’t understand how this article appeared here ... the topic is too large and multifaceted to fit into a dozen lines of slogans ...
  2. zevs379
    zevs379 April 30 2012 07: 13
    +19
    In 1917, an international-Marxist alien clique seized power in the Russian Empire.




    the author is not tolirasnichayte - the clique was primarily JEWISH angry
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 April 30 2012 08: 14
      +10
      zevs379,
      I agree! drinks
    2. 703-s
      703-s April 30 2012 08: 59
      +12
      and still this clique is in power.
      only the name was changed.
  3. Hleb
    Hleb April 30 2012 07: 20
    +5
    As a result, Russia and the Russian People, soon a hundred years, looks like Prometheus, chained in his native land by the chains of communist-liberal "doctrines" and "values", constantly pressing on his national, human and civil consciousness and preventing him from breaking free of his natural spirit and creation.



    The author, tell me, when when in the entire history of our state-Russia, people lived freer and better than during these periods?
    1. Tiberium
      Tiberium April 30 2012 08: 14
      -4
      I don’t know as an author, but I think that in the times of ancient Russia people lived better.
      1. Dust
        Dust April 30 2012 08: 25
        +2
        This is how it is and why? You have not seen the hut, plow and other miracles of the inventory of those times?
      2. Order
        Order April 30 2012 10: 13
        +5
        Quote: Tiberium
        I don’t know as an author, but I think that in the times of ancient Russia people lived better.

        A very bold statement lol
      3. Ross
        Ross April 30 2012 13: 20
        +6
        Roman is right! They lived well in pre-Christian times and even at the beginning of the 20 century.
        Who knows that during the hardest World War I, Russia was the only European belligerent power that did not impose martial law? There were no cards, the whole war there were no problems with food! England, France, Germany, Austria - all industry was transferred to military rails, but not Russia. Before the war, Russian workers earned more than any worker anywhere in Europe.
        1. mark021105
          mark021105 April 30 2012 14: 47
          +2
          What then began the revolution of 1905, if everything was in chocolate? I think the same way, it’s not worthwhile to reduce everything to a Zionist conspiracy. So we get to anti-Semitism.
          1. Ross
            Ross April 30 2012 22: 39
            0
            mark021105, but the revolution began "synchronously" with the Russo-Japanese War, when Japan was already on the brink of exhaustion. Today it is already known that both for the revolution of 1905 and for the Russo-Japanese War, the Japanese were given money from the same source - a Jewish banker from New York, Jacob Shift. Lenin then did not think about any revolutions.
          2. Vadim555
            Vadim555 April 30 2012 23: 37
            +1
            Quote: mark021105
            mark021105 Today, 14:47 0 Then why did the 1905 revolution begin, if everything was in chocolate? I think the same way, it’s not worthwhile to reduce everything to a Zionist conspiracy. So we get to anti-Semitism.


            Bad is the anti-Semite who does not try to become an anti-Zionist.
        2. Snow
          Snow April 30 2012 14: 58
          +3
          It really is. Tver Carriage Works for example (I work on it): its workers were one of the richest and most respected people in the city. The plant was founded in 1898 and by 1914 reached its normal capacity
        3. arhipelag
          arhipelag April 30 2012 16: 14
          +6
          The presence of Toyota and Nokia, Tampax and Coca-Cola does not mean that we live better than our ancestors on horses, with plow and bast shoes. The matter is not material.
  4. crossbow
    crossbow April 30 2012 07: 22
    -1
    Bullshit, I do not even consider it necessary to justify my opinion.
  5. oldmen1973
    oldmen1973 April 30 2012 08: 01
    +9
    The article is a minus, and the author is in the snout !!! You, my friend, were 15-20 years late with this article. It was in the 90s that they loved to throw mud at everything Soviet, trying to "burn with a hot iron" all the memory of the former greatness of fathers and mothers!
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 April 30 2012 08: 11
      +3
      oldmen1973,
      And let me ask you why the strong pre-revolutionary Russia didn’t please you!? Plus article! The author is 100 percent right. And I’m not trying to persuade anyone!
      1. Shade
        Shade April 30 2012 08: 36
        +3
        Something for the strong she easily fell apart.
        1. sergo0000
          sergo0000 April 30 2012 08: 50
          -1
          Marxism, Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, socialism, communism are all derivatives, a consequence of the catastrophe that happened with Russia in the year 17. So to say, state and global experiments on Russia!
          1. Shade
            Shade April 30 2012 08: 54
            +4
            And the disaster of October or February? The state in the Republic of Ingushetia was not able to answer the challenges of history and the people, and so it collapsed. What is interesting The French have a positive attitude towards their revolution. Although the consequences for countries are very similar.
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 30 2012 09: 56
            +6
            Sergo, fat plus! You do not even need to comment on your post
            1. sergo0000
              sergo0000 April 30 2012 10: 02
              +3
              Alexander Romanov,
              Thanks Sasha! I knew that I have like-minded people! drinks
      2. oldmen1973
        oldmen1973 April 30 2012 12: 06
        +2
        Lilim is right, how then do you think such a "strong" Russia collapsed so quickly? What, in a few days they took and replaced the entire population? Then there was no Internet, television! They didn't read newspapers in the outback - they didn't know how! And still, the Bolsheviks were able to infect the bulk of the population with their ideas! And the collapse of the empire, in my opinion, began in 1905, and then the Bolsheviks were far from the dominant figure!
        And as for the assessment of history, I’ll say so, it is customary for us to throw ourselves to extremes — as a new force comes to power, it immediately starts to blame the old one. The Russian Empire was certainly a significant figure in the history of the development of mankind. But at the beginning of the XNUMXth century, she began to get rid of herself, why and because of what, it was not for me to judge. But the USSR, for me personally, is more significant. Just because he gave the whole world free education and medicine - you need to enter the name of this country in all textbooks in gold letters. After all, it was only thanks to the USSR that the bourgeoisie began to give concessions to the working class, since they were afraid of revolutionary sentiments at home, and went to social reforms at home. And now we are trying to underestimate the achievements of our fathers and mothers on the ruins of former greatness!
        1. aksakal
          aksakal April 30 2012 20: 03
          +2
          Quote: Oldmen1973
          Just because he gave the whole world free education and medicine - you need to enter the name of this country in all textbooks in gold letters. Indeed, it was only thanks to the USSR that the bourgeoisie began to give concessions to the working class, since they were afraid of revolutionary sentiments in their country,
          - catch the plus, old man 1973! I wrote about this in my post a little higher, in the answer to Esaul, only more clumsily smile I am glad that not one is of this opinion.
          1. oldmen1973
            oldmen1973 April 30 2012 22: 40
            +1
            Well, we are fellow countrymen. I am 100 km away. He lived from Arkalyk from 1974 to 1991!
      3. Ross
        Ross April 30 2012 13: 34
        +7
        Weak king and clever backstage work. Millions of Federal Reserve and excellent multi-level conspiracy organization. Now volumes have already been written about this, who wants to find confirmation.
        My grandmother was 1890 born. While alive, she told me a lot about those times. A simple village woman did not work. Husband - made boats for sale. They lived in the village of Merezha, Vologda province. Two-story wooden house, 7-m children. Husband to his wife for 10 years gave a whole chest of jewelry. On each sale, returning from the city, he presented children with sweets. Lunch in the city from soup and the second -10 cents. Cow-xnumx ruble. Workers in the city earned 2 or more rubles.
        1. arhipelag
          arhipelag April 30 2012 16: 21
          +3
          Lilim is right, how then do you think such a "strong" Russia collapsed so quickly?


          And just like the great USSR.


          Ross
          agree with you.
  6. Vampir
    Vampir April 30 2012 08: 07
    +12
    In fact, the Soviet Union is an organic continuation of the Russian Empire, the flesh of the flesh of the Russian people and its imperial-messianic program. After the collapse of the USSR, we abandoned the messianic idea and therefore are degrading. Only a return to former views on the position of Russia in the world will return us greatness and prosperity.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal April 30 2012 20: 06
      +2
      Quote: VamPir
      In fact, the Soviet Union is an organic continuation of the Russian Empire, the flesh of the flesh of the Russian people and its imperial-messianic program. After the collapse of the USSR, we abandoned the messianic idea and therefore are degrading. Only a return to former views on the position of Russia in the world will return us greatness and prosperity.
      - I liked it, catch the plus sign. There was a trifle left - to come up with an attractive idea in return for the communist idea. Amer push the democratic idea. Having said A, tell B. You have something to offer? Bolder smile Just don’t offer sausage - it cannot be an idea (sausage - in the sense, a full, measured life in a buzz)
  7. Dust
    Dust April 30 2012 08: 14
    +1
    The author a place in the clinic! There is nothing to comment here ...
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 April 30 2012 08: 43
      +6
      Dust,
      And dear to you, where is the place?
  8. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui April 30 2012 08: 21
    +2
    An amusing conceit from the author of this article, it’s straight the spirit of the 90s - Fu.
  9. taseka
    taseka April 30 2012 08: 29
    +2
    "Whole strata and estates of the Russian people, its elite and the backbone of the nation - the nobility, clergy, army, Cossacks, peasantry, workers' and creative intelligentsia, scientists and artists - were physically destroyed and scattered into oblivion." - perhaps with this, I agree with the author!
    1. apro
      apro April 30 2012 09: 54
      -1
      we can say they killed everyone
  10. Tersky
    Tersky April 30 2012 08: 34
    +5
    I did not understand what the author wanted to say with an article. I already understand that Russia, as you do not call it, will remain Russia. The USSR is no longer one Russia but a union, but the fact that for decades there has been a substitution of Russia's spiritual values ​​is not new. Maybe the author knows the recipe how to get everything back to square one?
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 30 2012 08: 41
      -1
      The author wants to say, "let's return the empire", some monarchist wrote, with the purchased nobility ...
  11. iulai
    iulai April 30 2012 08: 44
    +1
    I didn’t understand, but other nations at that time were prosperous?
  12. dievleha
    dievleha April 30 2012 09: 01
    +2
    , "Whole strata and estates of the Russian people, its elite and the backbone of the nation - the nobility, clergy, army, Cossacks, peasantry, workers' and creative intelligentsia, scientists and artists, - were physically destroyed and scattered into oblivion. - if all this was destroyed who raised the USSR, whose brains he was famous for, this is what the illiterate ochlos did
  13. Redpartyzan
    Redpartyzan April 30 2012 09: 05
    +9
    Quite right! The Russian people are messianic people, we need some kind of "Great goal" mission and then there will be a systematic development of all spheres of society. Soloviev, Berdyaev, Lossky wrote about this. People in general are smart and have studied the spirit of the Russian people throughout their lives. Therefore, the Soviet Union, with its idea of ​​building a bright future-communism, is flesh of flesh, as the Russian Empire has already been told. And now, more than ever, the question of the formation in Russia of a great goal - a national idea, such that would ignite everyone, is becoming acute. And then the development of the country should proceed on its basis.
  14. apro
    apro April 30 2012 09: 22
    +2
    Yes, there is no scribble about anything. Everything is in a heap and there you can figure out what you like. You must first figure out what the Russian people are and then draw far-reaching conclusions.
  15. ars_pro
    ars_pro April 30 2012 09: 37
    +3
    An article as an article. Only the meaning of the text does not coincide with the illustration!
  16. 443190
    443190 April 30 2012 09: 55
    +6
    Russia is clearly not the USSR !!! Where to her before him. And the author is a PROVOCATOR !!! Controversial ....
  17. nokki
    nokki April 30 2012 10: 18
    +5
    "If someone ruins Russia, it will not be communists, not anarchists, but damned liberals." ( Fedor Dostoevsky ).

    At the beginning of the XNUMXth century, the Masonic-Zionist clique tore apart Russia. But Stalin revived it on an imperial, and, by no means, not a communist basis! History repeats itself in the XNUMXst century. We say "liberals" - we mean "masons". The author is either a narrow-minded person or is making a planned anti-Russian stuffing.
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 April 30 2012 10: 39
      +3
      nokki,
      I agree with you about Stalin completely! I bow to him and eternal memory for saving the country and contributing to the victory in the Second World War, but where would you let me see the stuffing? Just a statement of fact!
  18. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus April 30 2012 10: 35
    +2
    One cannot so contrastly judge Russian history. At all times, events have occurred that were both to the advantage of the country and the people, and to the detriment. And very many events in general can be evaluated only after many decades, when the archives are declassified, some facts are uncovered, the results are generalized and independent of political conjuncture conclusions.
  19. patriot2
    patriot2 April 30 2012 10: 48
    +6
    Article +
    Although there are many contradictions and understatements, there is no single recipe. There is an experience of the past, but those who acquired it have passed away, and each new generation prefers to learn from their mistakes.
    Until we live in "the country of not fools, but geniuses" (according to Talkov), we do not live, because everyone is not ideal and lives commensurately with his personal principles without thinking too much - what then is not interesting.
    However, not everyone is able to see it in themselves. For many, the causal relationship of events in this world is higher mathematics, but primitively nothing good can be achieved in thinking, especially in terms of the human soul. And this soul spends all its strengths only to survive, get rich or acquire something materially significant for itself. The order of things is as follows. bully
  20. nnnnnnnnn
    nnnnnnnnn April 30 2012 11: 23
    +5
    Entire strata and estates of the Russian people, its elite and the backbone of the nation — the nobility, the clergy, the army, the Cossacks, the peasantry, workers and creative intellectuals, scientists and artists — were physically destroyed and dispersed into non-existence. The country was turned into one huge concentration camp, depriving it of its name and designating it under the virtually abstract name of the USSR.
    Read more: http://topwar.ru/13964-rossiya-eto-ne-sssr-i-ne-rossiyskaya-federaciya-eto-rossi

    ya.html
    According to the author, it remains to live in Russia only cattle under the leadership of the international-Marxist alien clique who built the superpower.
    And it turns out I was a descendant of cattle who was born during the USSR, since my identity was replaced by a citizen of the USSR, i.e. I am an ersatz man.
    The author is an offended man who was a democrat in the days of Gorbachev, and in modern times was not useful to liberals and can only do it ..... if he wants to lick from the nationalists, maybe they will take him to them. minus.
  21. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 30 2012 11: 37
    +6
    controversially ambiguous and one-sided
    Communism does not contradict its essence in any way, but in many respects echoes the Russian character of help and collectivism, maybe this is why it has taken root in us, and there is no individualism in Germany.
    although much was done through ... which led to disastrous results
    shorter article huge -----
  22. sprut
    sprut April 30 2012 11: 39
    +1
    I absolutely did not like the article. Too one-sided. The boundaries of legal succession and national identity are much wider !!!
  23. Victor
    Victor April 30 2012 11: 49
    +3
    Any system is good or bad only in terms of which people take it to implement (that is, which we ourselves admit to implementation), as well as those who want to squeeze it out of the implementation of this system.
    Hence the well-known conclusion: History is not done by the masses, but by individuals who have ascended to the top of power because of the indifference and unwillingness to strain the bulk of the people living in our country.
  24. dld35057
    dld35057 April 30 2012 12: 24
    +6
    times do not choose - they live and die in them. we live now, and do future for us now. but without knowledge of the past, it is not possible to adequately respond to what is happening now, even at the everyday level. you need to know who committed the crimes and villains, and why they did it. And even more so on a global level. some history lessons on the school curriculum are not enough.
  25. sergo0000
    sergo0000 April 30 2012 12: 38
    +1
    But for some reason no one here wondered, Why did such a good idea as communism destroy our country? Or maybe this idea was hatched just for us? Maybe the only way it was possible to destroy the Great Russian Empire? And who could benefit from it? And couldn’t the Stolypin reforms already help the sick economy? Or could the emperor hinder the empire’s guarantor? So the Duma was already then. And the queen is still on the throne in England! Why was there a catastrophe? Or in Russia there is no way the murders of the king and his children?
    1. Brother Sarych
      Brother Sarych April 30 2012 13: 00
      -2
      And you, the Poles, what matters to Russia?
      Is the country destroyed? Which one? So in 1991 the country was destroyed, it is unequivocal, and not at all in 1917! The devastation is in your head, as they say - and you will continue to admire such provocative materials, then the country will perish in reality!
      The article is stupid and primitive, essentially a provocation!
      1. Vadim555
        Vadim555 April 30 2012 13: 31
        +1
        Quote: Brother Sarich
        and if you continue to admire such provocative materials, then the country will perish in reality!
        The article is dumb and primitive, essentially a provocation!


        The article is not stupid and primitive, she-provocative, and is designed for people with superficial knowledge of the underlying processes of that time.
        The Jewish kagan, who picked up power from the "land", set himself the goal of destroying Russia, but only Stalin's coming to power (and even then not immediately) was able to "break the back" of the Jewish conspiracy against Russia.

        And here is the early Trotsky: “We must turn Russia into a desert inhabited by white negroes, to whom we will give such tyranny that the most terrible despots of the East have never dreamed of. The only difference is that this tyranny will not be on the right, but on the left, not white, but red. In the literal sense of the word is red, for we will shed such streams of blood that all human losses of capitalist wars shudder and pale. The largest bankers from across the ocean will work in close contact with us. If we win the revolution, crush Russia, then on the debris of it we will strengthen the power of Zionism and become such a force in front of which the whole world will kneel. We will show what real power is. Through terror, bloody baths, we will bring the Russian intelligentsia to a complete dullness, to idiocy, to an animal state ... In the meantime, our young men in leather jackets are the sons of watchmakers from Odessa and Orsha, Gomel and Vinnitsa who can hate everything Russian! With what pleasure they physically destroy the Russian intelligentsia - officers, academics, writers .. "

        Victor Korchagin “The Jewish Occupation of Russia”, M., “Rusich” Journal, 1998.
  26. Speedy
    Speedy April 30 2012 13: 07
    +5
    I absolutely disagree with the author. The State is the People. My grandfathers went through the Finnish and the Great Patriotic War, my father was in Afghanistan, I was in the Caucasus ... And EVERYTHING, in the author's opinion, turns out to be fighting for criminal regimes and not for Russia? This is flawed demagoguery. "Communist regime" is a Western cliché. And the Motherland is the Motherland, whatever you call it - the Russian Empire, the USSR, the Russian Federation, Russia or Rus ...
  27. Rodver
    Rodver April 30 2012 13: 20
    +2
    An article to the very point - united two supposedly irreconcilable enemies into a single whole - both communists and liberals. Both are enemies of Russia. Definitely.
    I am for national Russia and for the Russian people (I include all the indigenous peoples and nationalities of the country to it).
  28. gans
    gans April 30 2012 13: 39
    +5
    everything is right, Russia is Russia and whoever doesn’t like it, it's their problems .. All these bastards from foreigners only get to power so they begin to pinch off pieces from Russia and destroy the Russian people
  29. characterist
    characterist April 30 2012 13: 45
    +2
    The article is certainly a plus, especially for understanding what value the estates had for sovereignty — it really was the backbone of the state.
  30. Ustas
    Ustas April 30 2012 13: 54
    -1
    I read the article, catch myself thinking, deja vu. How many such articles were in the nineties. And somehow the feeling does not leave that the article was written in the style of Valery Novodvorskaya, "the damned komunyaki are to blame for everything."
    1. Rodver
      Rodver April 30 2012 14: 10
      +2
      The article just makes it clear that they put their paws to Russia and the commies and Leberiak. Everything about the case.
  31. East
    East April 30 2012 14: 41
    +3
    Cool opus! So unobtrusive, provocative. What's the catch? And in the same as the "famine". Only one nation has suffered, and it doesn't matter Ukrainians or Russians. And other peoples are simply deleted from the life and history of Russia. Type they are not, and even so, in the subconscious, maybe they are guilty. Let us now write that each nation SEPARATELY suffered, but all together. And let's, according to the author's logic, dump the blame on each other! And then, after finding out who is to blame, destroy the enemy! How they began to destroy the Meskhetian Turks, Kyrgyz and Uzbeks, Russians and many others on the territory of the Russian Empire, no matter what ideology. And then we will announce that Siberians suffered more than Muscovites, and Petersburgers more than Urals! And again we will begin to kill already Russian Russians. And the Komi will kill the Tatars, the Bashkirs of the Chuvashes, and the Mordovians of the Udmurts. The Caucasus will cut everyone in a row, both friends and foes.
    Conclusion - one nation cannot be opposed to another. To oppose one people to another living in one state is a crime. To stick out sore spots for one nation, if everyone suffered, is a provocation. The national question is an intimate question, two neighbors of the same nationality quarrel and trouble if they do not reconcile. And if two nations quarrel - this is already a war. And if the war is within the state - this could mean the end of the state. And anyone who wants an end to the state is a state criminal.
    It is necessary to write about national issues, it is not necessary to provoke!
  32. Reddragon
    Reddragon April 30 2012 15: 21
    +1
    Author, I advise you to quit, hallucinogen-narcotic substances

    Entire layers and estates of the Russian people, its elite and the backbone of the nation — the nobility, clergy, army, Cossacks, peasantry, working and creative intelligentsia, scientists and artists — were physically destroyed and dispersed into oblivion.

    Do you understand that this is almost the entire population?
  33. darkman70
    darkman70 April 30 2012 15: 52
    +4
    The article put a minus.
    Because, oddly enough, anti-Sovietism = Russophobia.
    The West makes no difference between Russia and the Soviet Union. I read all the famous memoirs of Hitler's military leaders and never met the name "Soviet Union" there, they wrote "Russia" everywhere. They don't care what kind of system we have. They target the communists, but they end up in the Russians. And in general I am already tired of this ubiquitous anti-communism.
  34. paanvl
    paanvl April 30 2012 15: 59
    +3
    The double impression of the article ....
    I would like to tell the author ...... "Turn on your brains, and do not use stamps ....."
    I do not see anything in common between those who revived the greatness of the EMPIRE renamed to the USSR and those liberals who are now divorced. But the similarity of these lebirasts, who hate their own people and the tsarist "intelligentsia", put their dirty paw on the collapse of the Great Empire can be traced with a bang !!!!
    Do not confuse the Communists who have recreated the empire and those "Communists" who pissed it off !!! As they say in Odessa "Two big differences"
    1. Karabin
      Karabin April 30 2012 17: 02
      +2
      Quote: paanvl
      Do not confuse "Communists who have recreated the empire and those" Communists "who pissed off it !!! As they say in Odessa" Two big differences

      I would not paraphrase a lot: Do not confuse the communists who killed, along with the liberals, the empire in 17, the communists who recreated the empire and those "communists" who fucked it up! I agree with the rest.
      1. vezunchik
        vezunchik April 30 2012 18: 07
        +2
        After all, the backbone of Edrosses is made up of the former communists who destroyed the USSR! And what can they do now? Same!
  35. Alexander Zlodeev
    Alexander Zlodeev April 30 2012 17: 11
    -1
    I agree only with the last comment and the like !!!! Because the author not only smells of nationalism, it’s also a narrowly targeted conviction that his opinion had a presence in the history of Russia and its people as a separate subject of existence (it doesn’t take into account that its composition included many nationalities), and now the very liberalism that the author is indignant at and there is a reflection of the very monarchy that was in the Russian Empire, just the name of the subjects changed (President, Minister, Governor, oligarch, businessman, than not the intelligentsia which holds closed meetings social parties, etc., OPEN EYES AND CARRY OUT THE PARALLEL)
    So his article still lacks "Choose me and everything will be super :)))))
  36. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz April 30 2012 17: 59
    +5
    Entire layers and estates of the Russian people, its elite and the backbone of the nation — the nobility, clergy, army, Cossacks, peasantry, working and creative intelligentsia, scientists and artists — were physically destroyed and dispersed into oblivion.
    What nonsense, the elite rotted and began to parasitize the people, because the people did not object to its liquidation in 17m, the ridge of the nation rotted together with the king and crumbled, this forced the nation to change and create a new ridge, the church covered the crimes of the upper classes for which it received just hatred from the people, everything that happened was natural and in many respects fair, not without excesses, but to blame the 17th indiscriminately is wrong.
  37. vezunchik
    vezunchik April 30 2012 18: 05
    +7
    If it were not for the Bolsheviks to have taken power in October 17, then, firstly, Russia would no longer exist, and secondly, many of us would not have received not only higher education, but also primary education! Before the revolution, many families had only pants and wore them in turn! The people have a short memory!
  38. ymNIK1970
    ymNIK1970 April 30 2012 18: 34
    +1
    Thanks to the author. And the article is a complete "slag". Chat with older relatives, maybe you will find out something interesting. The 7th generation has grown up in our family, living in the same city. Information is transferred. It wasn't quite like that. Dig deeper. Don't be afraid to be surprised drinks
  39. warrior
    warrior April 30 2012 19: 30
    -2
    The author of the Communists does not like - here he has the full support of millions of people. The author of liberals does not like - here we can argue - liberalism has never happened in Russia. But what the author actually wants is a mystery.
  40. vladimir64ss
    vladimir64ss April 30 2012 21: 41
    0
    Yes, you ate too much. ..All these bastards from foreigners only seize upon the authorities so they begin to pinch off pieces from Russia and destroy the Russian people --------------------- Provocateur.
  41. uizik
    uizik April 30 2012 22: 27
    0
    Stoned opus scribbled! Do not confuse the people and ideology, borosopisets!
  42. dmb
    dmb April 30 2012 22: 30
    +1
    I try to make it a rule not to comment on primitive propaganda posters, but honestly I can't. Every time I think that in addition to people who are literate or outspoken provocateurs, there are many young people on the site who sacredly believe in the printed word, if only because it takes time to study the problem more thoroughly, and in youth it is categorically not enough for everything. I do not want to impose my point of view on them, but I am trying to show how you can distinguish reliable information from empty delusion. The other day I already asked one of the members of the forum about the above statement of Trotsky, asking him to indicate the source. Naturally, I did not receive an answer. Today Vadim 7 the source published. So, dear forum users, this is nonsense. Whether Mr. Korchagin himself invented it, or asked some clever Jew about it, I can’t judge, but this quote could only be genuine if Trotsky told Korchagin himself, which of course could not be. Trotsky can be accused (and justly accused) of anything but lack of intelligence. And they want to assure us that in the first years of the revolution he publicly announced that the bankers would love him. and the Jews will destroy the Russians. I think that with such speeches, an ice ax would not be needed. They would have finished Lev Davidovich the next day after delivering such an incendiary speech, since no one felt special love for him. Why am I all this, but k to the fact that the article is no different from Mr. Korchagin's "revelations". ps For hidden Zionists. Russian, not a freemason, not a liberal, a communist, but not a member of the Communist Party.
    1. Vadim555
      Vadim555 April 30 2012 23: 57
      +2
      Quote: dmb
      Today Vadim 555 a source published. So, dear forum users, this is nonsense. Whether Mr. Korchagin himself invented it, or asked some clever Jew about it, I can’t judge, but this quote could be true only if Trotsky spoke about it to Korchagin himself, which of course could not be.


      Nobody saw the protocols of the Zionist wise men and the Jewish Catechism in the USSR in the original either. But the whole course of the 20th century’s history goes like a tracing-paper from these documents, and the real actions of the Jewish ChK-OGPU-NKVD say nothing or is it difficult to analyze all this?

      The national composition of the personnel of the Cheka-OGPU-NKVD-MGB of the USSR in 1917 - 1938

      http://mrk-kprf-spb.narod.ru/bespal.htm
      1. dmb
        dmb 1 May 2012 09: 13
        0
        He wrote, of course, not for you, but for those who want to know History not in the presentation of crooks. For information - the Ministry of State Security of the USSR was created in 1946, so it makes no sense to count Jews in 1938 there. It may also be a revelation for you that one of the leaders of the Trotsky liquidation operation, Eitingon, has no relation to the Slavs, but only this operation brought much more benefit to the Homeland than, say, Bandera and Shukhevych.
        1. Vadim555
          Vadim555 1 May 2012 14: 14
          0
          Quote: dmb
          For information - the Ministry of State Security of the USSR was created in 1946, so that counting Jews there in 1938 is pointless


          The MGB is a typical typo, we are talking about time until 1938.

          Quote: dmb
          and only this operation brought much more benefit to the motherland than, say, Bandera and Shukhevych.


          Do you at least understand that "navayali", or just like a puddle ...
          1. dmb
            dmb 1 May 2012 16: 51
            0
            So how about the benefits actually brought by Eitingon the Jew and the benefits of the two Slavs mentioned above for a country called Russia-USSR? And typos of this type are characteristic of liberals such as Svanidze and Co.
  43. mind1954
    mind1954 April 30 2012 23: 27
    +1
    In 1918, no one bothered the Russian people to correct
    the "monstrous mistake" he made in October 1917!
    At this point, the Republic of Soviets shrank as
    "shagreen leather", in the form of a small patch around Moscow!
    Mamontov’s cavalry was already in Serpukhov !!!

    This opus is worthy of eclectic exercises to all familiar
    Fascist Clown Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky!
  44. Magadan
    Magadan 1 May 2012 01: 15
    +4
    Quote: esaul
    I believe that in many respects the author is right, unless a little militant nationalism is a bit too much. I set - plus!

    Yesaul, as always I support you. I also put a plus.
    Let emotionally, but generally true. That the Bolsheviks, that the liberals are all a product of the West, which has always been afraid of a strong Russia and has always attacked us, but has received its snot, and all their attacks ended only with the growth and strengthening of Russia.
    But these dudes, the heirs of Loyola and other secret orders, super brilliant intriguers, perfectly mastering the secrets of secret politics, finally felt our weakness, namely the inability to wage such secret wars.
    Guys, do not be surprised, but all our intelligence and counterintelligence are boys in short pants against the same CIA, Mossad or Hitler's Abwehr.
    Therefore, we were banged, both in 1917 and in 1991. And in 1937-40, the Abwehr organized a purge of officers quite well.
    Yes, Nicholas was overthrown, but not because he was weak. And simply because we all, all our people, are very easy to breed like suckers with the help of such technologies of the collapse of the country from the inside.
    Only we have a "lousy intelligentsia" that wants the death of their own country. Only we have scum such as Seryozhenka Kovalev, who talk about Russian soldier-killers and rapists of the unfortunate freedom-loving Chechen people. Only in our country the liberals, who did business in the 90s, screwed up with their market ideas in all directions and plunged millions into poverty, nevertheless collect 7% of the votes for Prokhorov! Only here, the people can get an apartment and an education for free, and then find fault with "this country" and shout about how he loves America (where, by the way, no one makes such gifts to anyone).
    So, I agree with the article, since all this abomination destroyed a really powerful empire, continued to bite huge pieces from the country, and now it is looking for new PIAR moves that cattle will buy and will finish the country to the end.
  45. Svetoyar
    Svetoyar 1 May 2012 16: 11
    +1
    Very true article. For a long time they did not write so grossly and essentially.