The war with America in Syria: on the verge or already beyond?

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The indirect war with the Americans in Syria began in fact from the moment the Russian Aerospace Forces entered Syria: both on the ground and in the air, there were incidents on the verge, and sometimes beyond the brink of "peaceful coexistence." Attack drones bases in Khmeimim, shelling of Wagner PMC, a number of incidents with American special forces, air contact…





If the main military superpowers on the planet came into direct contact in Syria, then, of course, there is a chance that a spark will erupt between them and a conflict breaks out, or it will be intentionally inspired by one of the parties. Well-known political analysts in various programs have been talking about this for a long time.

The very fact of the entry of Russian VKS into Syria allowed for the possibility of a military clash with the Americans, and, apparently, was taken into account by Vladimir Putin and worked out by the General Staff. On the first occasion, as soon as our Su-24 was shot down by the Turkish Air Force, Putin immediately makes a very sharp and important statement: the Russian Aerospace Forces will destroy any military means of attack in the event of a threat to Russian troops and facilities in Syria. “Any,” the president singled out in a voice, and it was clear that they were American.

The provocation with the Su-24 was most likely inspired by the United States, this version is confirmed by the subsequent attempt of an army plot against Turkish President Erdogan, in which the Turkish Air Force played an active role. This combination was seen by our special services and the incident with the Su-24 was not developed.

Today, the General Staff confirmed the long-declared position of Putin, saying that not only missiles threatening the Russian troops, but also their carriers, that is, warships, airplanes, and possibly military bases, will be destroyed. In other words, nothing fundamentally new in Syria is happening. When the Foreign Ministry and Russia's permanent representative to the UN, Vasily Nebenzia, declare “the gravest consequences for any military intervention in Syria,” they repeat, in fact, Putin’s long-standing statement after the attack on Su-24.

There are semi-conspiracy versions that some kind of US military provocation against Russia had been preparing for a long time, and Putin’s March-to-March report with a demonstration of the latest Russian weapons was intended to prevent this provocation by showing firsthand its “grave consequences”. Allegedly, Putin’s report, which was originally prepared, did not include a section on the latest military developments, it was added at the last moment.

This version is supported by a not very long interview with former US Vice President Joe Biden, in the summer of 2017, in which he repeated the words of Pentagon analysts that they have a maximum of four years to stop Russia, otherwise the United States will not be able to maintain world domination. Then the hawks in the US need to rush into a military conflict with Russia, and the situation in Syria is a convenient excuse to start this conflict for any reason, which we see today in Western hysteria about the alleged chemical attack in the Duma near Damascus.

In this case, there will be no inspections of the OPCW in Syria, the United States will ignore what happened or did not happen in the Duma: it doesn’t matter to them, the United States only has a reason, no matter what a lie, for the war in Syria. The only thing that can stop them is a demonstration of Russia's military capabilities in Syria and in general. If they personally see the "cartoons" from Putin's March 1 speech.

Today, V. Putin has not yet made public statements on the situation in Syria, but he had telephone conversations with Berlin and Paris, and spoke with Trump not so long ago, after winning the election. Maybe that's why Macron and Trump say "about the likely chemical attack in the Duma." Trump is still facing a big price for “everyone for a chemical attack,” namely, Syria, Russia, Iran, but he also needs to weigh the price of “heavy consequences”. All noted that in this series of countries Trump did not mention Turkey, but in fact it is not in the ranks of the voluntary allies of the United States.

If the inspection of the OPCW in the Duma will be disrupted by the United States, it will cause Russia to accuse the United States of blatant aggression, without conducting an investigation, in Syria and act accordingly. If the OPCW inspection arrives at the Duma, this is a chance to get out of this conflict situation, provoked, apparently, by the British special services, which control the only source of this misinformation - the so-called “White Helmets”.

American political scientist Stephen Cohen on the situation in Syria on the air of American TV said that "at the end of this path is war." A war of at least a regional scale, in and around Syria. The positions of the parties here are not entirely obvious. U.S. with satellites have an advantage in the region in aviation, navy, in the bases. But Russia is fundamentally closer to the Syrian theater of operations, its military carriers can operate from the Caspian Sea, maybe the Black Sea, strategic aviation has already tested the Iranian route of approach to Syria and US bases in the Persian Gulf.

Finally, no one knows the combat capabilities of the hypersonic Avangard, which is deployed in the North Caucasus, and other “cartoon” weapons of Russia. Actually, the “grave consequences” that our Foreign Ministry is talking about may follow precisely from these weapons.

The key question posed by our liberal attorneys of the West in connection with the Syrian events was: was it worth it for Russia to enter its VKS into Syria, perhaps, it was better to give it to the Americans? No, it is not better, it was as necessary for Russia to go to Syria as it was to save the Crimea, and to defend itself with the help of Crimea and Donbass from the American and Bandera expansion in Ukraine.

Hillary Clinton, when she was secretary of state, said bluntly that in the Middle East, the United States would completely "arrange moderate extremist regimes." Without the intervention of the VKS RF in Syria, there would have already been established a “moderate” extremist regime, overrun by militants from the post-Soviet space, which would become the basis for the expansion of this “Caliphate” to the Kurdish regions of Turkey and Iran with a final exit to the borders of Russia, the extremists did not hide these plans. By the way, the informal union of Russia, Turkey and Iran in Syria is explained precisely by this circumstance that all three countries could become objects of expansion of an extremist neoplasm in Syria under the auspices and with the support of the USA.
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  1. +6
    April 13 2018 05: 38
    There is no point in worrying ... We can’t influence this ... So either it will be ... or not ... And then from everyone according to their abilities and needs ...
    1. +6
      April 13 2018 06: 10
      Quote: Vard
      There is no point in worrying ... We can’t influence this ... So either it will be ... or not ... And then from everyone according to their abilities and needs ...


      Only this remains.

      Or wrap yourself in a sheet and crawl slowly into the cemetery?

      In the last week, the articles became somehow empty ...

      Articles for the sake of the article!
  2. +8
    April 13 2018 07: 00
    That's just it, that the articles are empty ... It’s just that the situation is such that the subjective factor is very great and no analyst will undertake to predict the development of the situation, except that he owns closed insider information. The backstage battles are now probably going the most powerful, the war of nerves. God bless our diplomats to stand with honor. I really would not want a real fight. But there are a lot of provocations to be expected and how to deal with them, so as not to be exposed as aggressors, I can not even imagine ...
    1. +1
      April 13 2018 13: 34
      except that he owns insider information.

      Be sure, if he owns any classified information about this, he will not write a single article anywhere, nor will he give an interview anywhere and will not say anything. And us, simple not possessingIt remains only to guess and argue with each other on this topic.
  3. +7
    April 13 2018 07: 11
    The Americans will undoubtedly try to repeat the mass strike, but at the same time they will try to beat so as not to hook us. Their intelligence is not so hot, basically they rely on informants loyal to green ideas, so no one will ever give a 100% guarantee not to get into Russian Trump.
    After they hit the empty trenches, declare a hundred injured citizens of the Russian Federation, as Pompeo wanted. САР - notify the UN Security Council that the United States is assigned the official status of an interventionist with all the consequences for the interventionists. We will not touch the American bases in Saudi Arabia, like ships with planes in the international space, but in the territorial waters and air of Syria we get a full carte blanche which is simply vital to use 100500%. It’s basically a mobile group of mercenary instructors teaching the past rebranding of the IG, and cutting off arms supplies, and aerial excursions of barmalei on coalition helicopters ... Already at the first blow, we actually untied our hands and continue to sit and endure American attacks secretly, of course, purely Christian, but does not bring closer to victory.
    1. +11
      April 13 2018 08: 57
      Yes there will be no large-scale blow. the Americans are already wearing pants. We would like to put it more accurately, if we had such an opportunity, we would have done it a long time ago and wouldn’t have written on Twitter saying that we are planning somewhere. They just understand that the answer will arrive, but this was not in the plans. They used to beat those who a priori did not give change.
      Well, let's say they strike from ships and planes from the territories of foreign countries. And we will take most of the missiles down. Several aircraft are possible. And sink a couple of their ships. What's next ? The king is naked! They will never go for it - this is such a loss of prestige after which their empire can collapse like a house of cards. They don’t risk such things.
      So they will continue to crap and create fakes .. Maybe a couple of small-scale operations can be performed, they say we can do something. Popyaritsya on this - but everyone understands that they are not the same. They are already vinegar and not wine.
      1. +7
        April 13 2018 09: 50
        Quote: seti
        Yes there will be no large-scale blow. the Americans are already wearing pants.

        Not a very smart metaphor for the strongest military machine in the world. Or will we throw our hats as usual?
        1. +2
          April 13 2018 12: 25
          Quote: seti

          Well, let's say they strike from ships and planes from the territories of foreign countries. And we will take most of the missiles down. Several aircraft are possible. And sink a couple of their ships. What's next ? The king is naked! They will never go for it - this is such a loss of prestige after which their empire can collapse like a house of cards. They don’t risk such things.


          I totally agree.
          At a standstill, they don’t have any good options.


          Quote: Prometey
          Not a very smart metaphor for the strongest military machine in the world. Or will we throw our hats as usual?


          What is another metaphor?
          What does the "strongest military machine" mean?

          A lot of iron, aluminum, electronics and military personnel?

          And how does it stop us from hitting them on earth, in heaven and at sea?

          In the event of an attack on our base in Syria, we will be able to strike at their bases and ships anywhere in the Middle East from our territory.

          What will they do?
          Hit the Russian territory?

          I would like to see how they decide on this

          Who knows, Status is already at the bottom or not .....
    2. +1
      April 13 2018 11: 59
      Quote: g1washntwn
      as Pompeo wanted.

      This Pompeian, is he from Italians? Heard, then, and about the vendetta. Italians should be sharpened by Italian-American attention, which in vain will organize the bloodlines for themselves. This is not a movie vendetta for him, this is a cut off head in kind. Let him already be afraid to go to the toilet alone and not sit on a toilet seat - it’s very dangerous. Yes, and the market filters ...
  4. +3
    April 13 2018 07: 59
    The key question posed by our liberal Western lawyers in connection with the Syrian events is whether Russia should go to Syria with its videoconferencing, maybe it was better to give it to the Americans? No, it is not better to enter Syria for Russia as much as to save Crimea, and to defend with the help of Crimea and Donbass from American and Bandera expansion in Ukraine.

    Do you think this is the answer to the question?
    So what did Russia initially need in Syria?
    1. +3
      April 13 2018 12: 02
      Quote: Bastinda
      So what did Russia initially need in Syria?

      Only your girlfriend, Gingham, ruin the mood.
  5. +2
    April 13 2018 08: 27
    And what will the OPCW write in the end? There who are experts - not the same "grant-eaters" as elsewhere?
    And about the fact that Putin foresaw the attack, I agree. Slowly these years pacified the enemy, and he rearmed the army, because a clash was inevitable. There will still be a battle for the Arctic, and staffers will not simply leave Syria. They brought the situation to the redline, now until they really rake it off - they will not calm down.
    1. +1
      April 13 2018 08: 36
      After they rake / retreat in Syria, in the Arctic they will already be completely different people.
  6. +2
    April 13 2018 09: 34
    The vanguard has not yet been adopted, as well as other new weapons announced by Putin. But probably in the piecewise version the same Poseidon, for the situation of the conflict with the United States, is somewhere on the alert, as well as the Petrel.
    Regarding the fact that the United States has 4 years, after which they de facto lose their military advantage, and therefore that very hegemony ...
    The USA has already lost this advantage at the moment when Putin showed new weapons. After all, what is the same Poseidon? This is a 100 megaton charge (in the nuclear version), which alone is capable of washing most of the US coast into the ocean, but I generally keep quiet about Britain. And if there are 5-10 such Poseidons? (EVEN NOT HUNDREDS).
    I see it this way ... the USA is trying to drop into the last car of the train that for 25 years made them the world gendarme (gopnik, as you like), who did what he wanted in the world without asking anyone for an opinion, including the UN .
    As to whether the United States will deliver the announced missile strike ... I think so. Question, when? And the answer is soon. Why? Yes, because, so to say, the weapon is already loaded and pointed. I believe that the group of mattress destroyers is waiting for the arrival of the AUG and its arrival will turn on that timer to the first axes to salvo.
    1. +2
      April 13 2018 09: 49
      Quote: NEXUS
      This is a 100 megaton charge (in the nuclear version), which alone is capable of washing most of the US coast into the ocean, but I generally keep quiet about Britain. And if there are 5-10 such Poseidons? (EVEN NOT HUNDREDS).

      Someone's sense of reality disappeared in principle. What are 100 megatons - why write such nonsense? Ammunition of such power has not been developed for a long time because of its uselessness and the unpredictable consequence of their use.
      1. +7
        April 13 2018 09: 55
        Quote: Prometey
        Someone's sense of reality disappeared in principle. What are 100 megatons - why write such nonsense?

        Someone thoughtfully forgot how to read, if once they knew how to ... This drone is ABLE to carry warheads of 10 megatons, 20,30 and even 100. There will be 100, there will be two of 50.
        What JBCH will be, this is the second question, it is important that it will be.
      2. +2
        April 13 2018 11: 42
        Quote: Prometey
        and the unpredictable consequence of their use.

        We tested a hundred, the consequences are known, but they stop, then they were afraid, although there was a possibility: the charge was originally designed for fifty-megaton equivalent ...
        1. 0
          April 13 2018 15: 58
          Quote: Cynic
          We tested a hundred, the consequences are known, but they stop, then they were afraid, although there was a possibility: the charge was originally designed for fifty-megaton equivalent ...

          Where and when did they experience? On the New Earth? That charge was less than 50 MT and was blown up at high altitude.
          1. 0
            April 14 2018 15: 01
            Ugh on this wiki ...
    2. +1
      April 13 2018 12: 16
      Quote: NEXUS
      and her arrival will turn that timer to volley with the first axes.

      At the end of the last century, Cypriots immediately answered my English by telephone in Russian. We should somehow bring to the understanding that the neighboring British base will not be with them. They won’t at all ... Let them think so. They want it in silence, they want it — they push it back with a scream at sea. If they want to live.
  7. +11
    April 13 2018 10: 10
    if you have 25 cm, and you do not use it so as not to frighten anyone on the one hand. And so as not to humiliate the other. request this is ridiculous . feel the world is arranged so that you are either a predator or you are a victim. Yes ! You can be in a pack of predators. like being in a pack of victims. Is it possible to use weapons? it must be done. firmly and without compromise. to everyone who wants to write to me in style (- Have you seen the war, baby) I will answer this way. if the country continues to wrinkle sausages, then I will definitely see it. like the Vietnamese, Iraqis, Syrians, Libyans and others. with stupefied Europe, they tried to play diplomacy. 30 million lives paid for this lesson. virgin behavior will not give the country prosperity or peace. hi
    1. +8
      April 13 2018 10: 16
      Quote: megavolt823
      if you have 25 cm, and you do not use it so as not to frighten anyone on the one hand. And so as not to humiliate the other. this is ridiculous

      Your sparkling speech about the childbearing organ and instructions for use, you could write in one phrase, Russia should be with ... this very childbearing organ. hi
      1. +2
        April 13 2018 12: 26
        not really. The Russian Federation has a child-bearing member. but what kind of childbearing does not use? this is the question am
        1. 0
          April 13 2018 12: 36
          if I 180 cm and 115 kg. and with me 3 dashing; oblique, lame, grisha, nicknamed take-give. we have surrounded you and are having a dialogue about buying bricks and bad cigarettes. and you have an argument in your pocket. but you have been trying for a long time, to explain about the frailty of being, criminal liability and trying to shame on the education of mom and dad. Well, you understand me ............ angry wassat drinks and you feel love crying
  8. 0
    April 13 2018 11: 38
    A war of at least a regional scale, within and around Syria.
    Although in the United States until fig beaten off on the head and you need to keep your hand on the button hi
  9. 0
    April 13 2018 11: 44
    I wonder how the president’s statements can interfere with the actions of others. Unless to exhort.
    Especially the capabilities of carriers in the Caspian without corridors of Turkey and Iraq (NATO and the US in fact).
    And about the proximity of the Russian Federation to the theater, in general, it is ridiculous. The same Cyprus is closer, the same Turkey is closer. Logistically, the Russian Federation will be the most difficult. The possibilities are not unlimited.
    What is the war with the USA? The same Trumpnash is his partner in the board. His God keeps with America. laughing
    1. 0
      April 13 2018 12: 14
      Quote: Antares
      without corridors of Turkey and Iraq (NATO and the US in fact).

      Are you aware of the altitude parameters of the corridors?
  10. +4
    April 13 2018 12: 03
    I think that in this situation, you just need to trust your president and pray for the CORRECT outcome of the situation. On the side of Russia, there was always God .. even when it seemed that God had forgotten about Russia ...
  11. 0
    April 13 2018 12: 35
    Forecast from my couch. The US in Syria has not fulfilled its task. Assadd is in place, the pro-American opposition is routed. Now they have a task how to get out of this situation without losing their "exclusivity". They will be able to gouge Syria, but not all of their allies will approve of it. Europe has not yet “experienced” the first refugees. Germany and Italy have already openly opposed. Greece, Hungary, Austria, the Czech Republic and others are still puffing with displeasure, but they cannot openly (they are weak in their knees against the main owner). But the main brake is the uncertainty of how Russia will behave. How much is she ready to go to the "end". To save the “face” in this situation, the United States remains:
    a) draw the conclusion of the OCHA commission - the use of chemical weapons in the Duma has not been confirmed, the “strike” is canceled;
    b) “supposedly” enter into negotiations with Russia for adoption of non-binding decisions, diplomats know how to “wind up” this, and nothing concrete;
    d) to inflict not a “blow”, but a “striker” (as a year ago) for excuse, warning the Russian Federation in a day.
    e) inflict a “striker” in the border zone with Israel in places where Iraqi and Hamas warehouses are located, etc. (on a tip from Israel).
    Definitely, the United States will not go for a “big blow” to Syria with an attack by our bases.
    1. 0
      April 13 2018 13: 04
      Apparently the United States decided on p. 3 or p. 4. Russia again collects the UN Security Council.
  12. +1
    April 13 2018 12: 46
    International organizations ranging from IOC, WADA, WHO, the UN Security Council, the OPCW and others are all corrupt by the United States of America. Rot, venality, inhumanity, mentally ill employees in international organizations - all these are products of the United States activities and efforts. When will this abomination stop? I’m afraid the Almighty will arrange Sodom and Gomorrah in the USA.
  13. 0
    April 13 2018 12: 47
    Yes, I do not want war, but I really want the owner to tear his dogs. Like cheap sixes in the street gopota, when these sixes hit a serious person because of their stupidity and all raked good lyuley. But this case involves a fight with our crushing score.
  14. +2
    April 13 2018 12: 53
    In Spain, in 1936–39, they were already at war against Germany, helping locals along with the Inter-Brigades. In Mongolia and China, they fought behind the scenes against Japan, against the United States already fought behind the scenes twice - in Korea and Vietnam ... In Afghanistan, the Yankees, who have received stars in the past decades, have already prepared for us a new crap - muslim thugs, and if not betrayal inside the country they would be "forced to peace and democracy" of the Soviet era as nice .. laughing

    In general, nothing new. A large and white elephant, in order to survive among rats, must be able to dance and crush them without breaking dishes! wink
  15. +6
    April 13 2018 13: 24
    Russia's plan for May
    May 7 - Inauguration
    May 8 - War with the USA
    May 9 - Victory Parade
  16. +1
    April 13 2018 13: 52
    Bast-start over. Where is the adequate analysis of the forces and means of the Western coalition against our coalition on the site ???? All water only. Perhaps I stop going here at all.
  17. +4
    April 13 2018 16: 33
    And where, damn it, our allies? Kazakhstan, so to the noise, generally rushed at an accelerated pace into the camp of the enemy, before they had somehow masked the persecution of Russians, now they are already in a hurry to even pretend. This was the degree of unprofessionalism (let’s hope the best thing is stupidity) that one had to have in order to leave their own territories, their own people without strict control and leadership, to give without a fight and not even for a beads, simply collected and protected for centuries, in hands and orders of the enemy, I’m sorry, “partner.” It seems to me that this is not stupidity at all, but a direct intention and interest. Then another question is what kind of protection and war can be discussed, if at the helm of the economy, education and culture, people who took an active part in the assassination of the country and its subsequent plunder and sale on such a scale that the history of human civilization did not know, moreover, voluntarily and without any profit. And most importantly, the socialist community of people, that is, the traditionally centuries-old communal way of life of our society with ancient traditions and ideals, has been saved and restored to power for many centuries. For several generations, an “advanced consumer” (now digital) has been systematically and purposefully educated, destroying education, creative thinking, patriotism, replacing the traditional values ​​of our people, alien and destroying our society. From a close-knit, spiritualized society that gave birth to the greatest artists and scientists, unique designers and engineers, where a person was primarily valued for his talents, professional qualities, kindness and honesty, his integrity and patriotism, stubbornly breaking all conceivable patterns, using full TV, The media, the Internet, school and institutes, NGOs, the whole machine of propaganda war with the encouragement of leaders from "those times" raise a person, a citizen does not turn his tongue, the success and value for society of which is determined by the amount of dough, no matter how you got it, person, despising his people and language, culture and traditions, and the country that nurtured him and gave him everything, a sense of hatred for each other and a sense of individualism and personal success, disdain for people around him, contempt for the flawed, old and old are instilled from school. There is a substitution of concepts and takes root at the state level, where permissiveness has been replaced by democracy, moral and spiritual poverty, low education - a different vision of works, upholding the interests of the country of its sovereignty, protection and defense - aggressiveness, despotism requirements for all categories - despotism. And the infernal division of society, reaching the point of absurdity, that whoever works and produces something is the very poor and disempowered in the country, if you are an engineer or hardworking goof, you don’t know how to live. The civil service (we don’t take the armed forces and the Ministry of Internal Affairs), bureaucracy and parliament is not considered as serving the country, but as a personal business project, investing in the future child, the ability to receive money (status) and privileges, and most importantly, be above the law (which is written for yourself), because laws only for suckers, i.e.
    1. +1
      April 14 2018 03: 18
      our allies are the army and navy.
      we always seem weak before the start, but we are russian.
      do not underestimate the new generation, it is different, yes, but no less gifted.
      PS: there will be nothing grand, it is not beneficial to anyone now.
  18. 0
    April 13 2018 17: 13
    I absolutely agree with the thoughts of the author, either in Russia or the Atlantic, in this article. All of them are not finishing up with Donbass or Lave in the Wall Street banks, or not understanding with "answers" to sanctions and splashing of bile with a creak. attacks. "Links of a single DNA chain. High-level information with a bunch of high-ranking officials and influential Komers known only in the minds and offices .. My opinion is this: capital makes it very difficult to think in favor of the broad masses, but don’t unfold, and the people are too blurry What they say, they will eat, they will not swallow it. They will spit out the enemies, throw all the hatred into power and then profit from the ashes of Russia's sovereignty .. The choice of the poor is not great: life or death. For the rich: capital and everything connected with it or death ..
    1. 0
      April 13 2018 22: 28
      Recently I read an article revealing the essence of the last year: it seems that Tram and Putin are now engaged in exposing the shadow government and it seems that the shadow government has become a trap, now the heads of this shadow government will begin to fly away not only in the US and the EU, but also in Russia, many OLIGARCHS working for a shadow government.
      1. 0
        April 14 2018 01: 14
        A lot of money for the same IG and other groups comes not from the US Department of State or government agencies, but from private mega-corporations owned by certain people in the West The same Saudis, not the royal family, are arming Islamic thugs around the world, as in Qatar is very rich. US government agencies often cannot even influence the situation in the world. This is a failure of the United States - everything has long been confirmed.
  19. 0
    April 14 2018 08: 56
    It is not clear why ours did not express concern?
  20. 0
    April 15 2018 09: 39
    But the RF is rather weak in order to compete with the West. We do not have the Chinese economy; they can strangle us with sanctions.
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