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What are the "Javelins"? APU "Hammers" can not master!

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The Ukrainian army cannot master the old military equipment that comes from the United States of America. This was told by former Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Roman Bessmertny. According to RIA News With reference to NewsOne, he noted that in order to use the new technology, training is needed, which is now absent in the Ukrainian military.


What are the "Javelins"? APU "Hammers" can not master!


In this regard, the soldiers are not only unable to use such devices as counter -tillery radars, but are not even able to master the old American military vehicles. Immortal added that the Ukrainian equipment is more familiar to the Ukrainian soldiers.

I'm not talking about the "Hummers", which simply do not have our service. To date, all UAZs have been bought out on the territory of Ukraine, starting with 452, ending with 469, because it turns out that our soldiers, of course, are used to using it. Similarly, diesel technology
- declared the Immortal.

Earlier, the US administration approved the delivery of Kiev weapons, including portable anti-tank missile systems Javelin. President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko said that Kiev expects to receive weapons from the United States in 2018 year.
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  1. bogart047
    bogart047 April 10 2018 15: 12
    +4
    they have been driving hammers for a long time, from Iraq in Zhitomir ... it smacks of deso
    1. Hire
      Hire April 10 2018 15: 16
      +18
      He noted that in order to use the new technology, training is needed, which the Ukrainian military does not currently have.

      laughing Epic! Bearded goats can master, but Svidomo tseeuropeytsy-not! This is the level!
      1. Mestny
        Mestny April 10 2018 15: 49
        +10
        Why can't they? There, in the photo for the article, in my opinion, they perfectly mastered it. How much does the wheel cost there?
    2. Gray brother
      Gray brother April 10 2018 15: 18
      +5
      Quote: bogart047
      they have been driving hammers for a long time, from Iraq in Zhitomir ... it smacks of deso

      They were in the Ukrainian army before the coup, but they were normal and operated in greenhouse conditions.
      Now they come from long-term storage and without appropriate preparation and maintenance. Old rubber crumbles, the fuel system cannot be diluted with donkey urine into the fuel, and a bolt is clogged for maintenance for various reasons.
      1. Yrec
        Yrec April 10 2018 15: 21
        +2
        Most likely, they come with a fully developed resource. Overhaul at the price of a new one. So the great Ukrainians are whining. With such a technique, the Black Sea cannot be dug up.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother April 10 2018 15: 25
          +3
          Quote: Yrec
          Most likely, they come with a fully developed resource.

          According to the documents, there is a resource otherwise they would go under the press, and not for storage. Just nothing is stored forever, and even more so the car.
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit April 11 2018 04: 58
        +1
        Quote: Gray Brother
        They were in the Ukrainian army before the coup, but they were normal and operated in greenhouse conditions.

        All Western equipment is largely designed for greenhouse operating conditions. At least very sensitive to fuels, oils, technical inspections, and so on. Like any foreign cars.
    3. bazzbazz
      bazzbazz April 10 2018 15: 20
      0
      How can this not be mastered, say a long ride? So already mastered in personal interests, who could)
    4. Ushly_bashkort
      Ushly_bashkort April 10 2018 15: 21
      +4
      The point is not the ability to drive them, they do not know how to service the equipment. There, they probably didn’t even put the ZIPs on them, well, I have such a suspicion.
    5. forester
      forester April 10 2018 15: 28
      +3
      What? Yes, the American can’t master simply a clinical nerd with hands from his ass. I skated a couple of years on frad - a diagnosis: Kraz is comfortable - KamAZ is a hundred times more complicated, I do not think that an army hammer is more complicated than an UAZ
    6. LeonidL
      LeonidL April 10 2018 16: 40
      +2
      Riding on their own, and not on public - two big differences. Anyone who can afford a personal Hammer can find a good craftsman and good spare parts for good money, and besides, they drive on roads, albeit lousy ones. And in the troops, the state treasury! A normal mechanic won’t repair a penny, he’s normal, he won’t pick up a penny for such pennies, well, spare parts ... I really want to live in warehouse storage rooms. Here are the spare parts and go to private hammers ... but they will endure the goat and loaf ...
    7. jovanni
      jovanni April 10 2018 18: 12
      +1
      Quote: bogart047
      they have been driving hammers for a long time, from Iraq in Zhitomir ... it smacks of deso

      Yes, what smells there, it stinks of bullshit. Why such articles to amuse capsocidones? Or just put to sleep vigilance ...
    8. zhekazs
      zhekazs April 10 2018 19: 44
      +1
      Quote: bogart047
      and hammers have been driving for a long time, from Iraq yet, in Zhytomyr ... it smells like deso

      So what? They go ... Do you also have spare parts for these cars for free? Yes, for the same MOT, albeit once every six months, the filter must be bought for bucks, and not for rubles from the aggressor. And the sums are rather big, not to mention spare parts and consumables for the running gear, etc. .. It just finally dawned that with these gifts soon they would be completely naked ... they would remain ....
  2. RUSLAN
    RUSLAN April 10 2018 15: 17
    +1
    Well, for sure, the Immortal! It’s as if they hadn’t brought him to the “peacemaker”! smile
  3. NF68
    NF68 April 10 2018 15: 19
    +2
    Or in the Armed Forces of Ukraine already everything that they could sell was sold.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother April 10 2018 15: 21
      +2
      Quote: NF68
      already everything they could sell was sold.

      Do not go to the fortuneteller.
  4. Not served
    Not served April 10 2018 15: 25
    +1
    For the normal development of technology and its service, you need at least some kind of knowledge and brains. And if they sit there on alcohol and not even pills, then why wait then ????
    On tablets, we can only during the fighting, and now we can only on the front end. But here they obviously do not refuse themselves in the vodka.
  5. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 10 2018 15: 27
    +4
    Yoklmn, they damn fucking "service" is needed to unscrew and bolt a few bolts ..!? Seriously? Well then everything is clear ... request We have such without handed hands it’s clear what they called ....
    Service, I generally already at this word became rzhachno. That is, these arrogant lads to fix a combat vehicle in the middle of the field need a service? Probably with a coffee and a sink?
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit April 11 2018 05: 01
      0
      Quote: DEZINTO
      That is, these arrogant lads to fix a combat vehicle in the middle of the field need a service? Probably with a coffee and a sink?

      What can you do, they are switching to NATO standards. laughing By the way, there is also beer, during the service ..
  6. Antares
    Antares April 10 2018 15: 37
    +2
    The Ukrainian army cannot master the old military equipment that comes from the United States of America. This was told by the former Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Roman Immortal. According to RIA Novosti with reference to NewsOne, he noted that for the use of new equipment training is needed, which is currently not available in the Ukrainian military

    Original source

    It’s much cooler. We are the Soviet Union for the recognition of the novel. We operate with the quantity of equipment, not the quality of the soldier. And then he reveals the essence of just the question of sniper weapons (which was transmitted more than we have snipers - a quote from the discussion)
    About Hamerry-said that there is no service. Yes, he says the right thing. A skilled modern soldier has been preparing for years. And here they are forced to use outdated only because it is more convenient. Although there is a new one.
    PTRK Javelin can use even the Arabs. But to repair, operate counter-battery radars, a large fleet of armored vehicles, tanks, artillery, etc. - only the army and the state can. We only learn to fight, because we have lived more than 20 years in illusion.

    23 minutes 10 seconds.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit April 11 2018 05: 03
      0
      Quote: Antares
      We are only learning to fight, for we have lived more than 20 years in illusion.

      And now, what have you seen? laughing Maidan injection brain cleared?
  7. Strashila
    Strashila April 10 2018 15: 45
    0
    Let's start with a simple one ... all Western equipment is designed for authorized auto centers ... so that there is appropriate equipment and certified mechanics, "white" auto parts and accessories with consumables ... all this requires money that is not there. The law of trade says ... that parts as spare parts are always more expensive than analogues installed at the factory during production ... the most expensive parts are those of discontinued machines ... the longer, the more expensive ... and not “white” ones that ended in warehouses, and "gray" similar to not understood production. And given that it wasn’t shipped to Ukraine ... but cars with a penny of residual motor resources ... clean bred ... someone's private gesheft in the states.
  8. sabakina
    sabakina April 10 2018 15: 55
    +5
    from the 452nd to the 469th
    Mmm, excuse me, but what, between 452 and 469 there are still models? And I don’t understand what they did with Hammer’s hub?
    1. assa67
      assa67 April 10 2018 16: 03
      +4
      Glory, good day hi ...
      Quote: sabakina
      And I don’t understand what they did with Hammer’s hub?

      Spare parts went on to create the latest technology
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky April 10 2018 18: 35
        +2
        Quote: assa67
        Glory, good day hi ...
        Quote: sabakina
        And I don’t understand what they did with Hammer’s hub?

        Spare parts went on to create the latest technology

        They have no ammunition for this technique. Therefore, we switched to the usual weapons. Further only stone axes and clubs.
        1. assa67
          assa67 April 10 2018 19: 58
          +4
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Further only stone axes and clubs.

          but only "the best in the world" ... Turchinov said so. point ..
  9. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan April 10 2018 15: 57
    0
    They get tense ... They ask for money ... Although the fact that they bought all the UAZs is very interesting ... I hope our supply of spare parts for UAZs, as well as for all other equipment, was blocked for Ukraine ...
  10. izya top
    izya top April 10 2018 16: 13
    +3
    immortal is the one who initially squealed in Minsk? so is he what colleague parubia fool
  11. Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 10 2018 16: 14
    0
    Collectively bouncing on the spot so the throat to tear is not to work with your head ..
  12. LeonidL
    LeonidL April 10 2018 16: 37
    0
    No brains - spin a bagel on a goat or a loaf!
  13. Topotun
    Topotun April 10 2018 16: 43
    +3
    Crap, the operation of hammers in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is probably impossible for two reasons, first they got what has already served its term in the same Iraq. And secondly, nichrome hamers are not cheap parts. And the money in the APU is dumb. Well, the chieftain does not have a gold reserve ..... As for the radars, everything is probably easier there - no one was going to use them in the troops. Maybe they wanted to drive, but a little did not have time ....
  14. PalBor
    PalBor April 10 2018 17: 10
    0
    They mastered exactly the opposite. Wheels, engines, seats ... mastered the prices.
  15. bald
    bald April 10 2018 17: 17
    0
    Generally wooden, in any army is enough. But teachers - specialists, worth its weight in gold. Well, the intra-army atmosphere is important, for which all this.
  16. rehev931
    rehev931 April 10 2018 19: 43
    0
    give a fool a glass hammer ... wassat
  17. APASUS
    APASUS April 10 2018 20: 23
    0
    But in Ukraine they didn’t think about it. They thought that all this American goods could be shoved for money. And the fact that this good should be serviced by trained personnel, repairing trained craftsmen, original spare parts, fuel and lubricants.
  18. kan123
    kan123 April 11 2018 09: 49
    0
    Hamers - shit machine, - too much axle load. They put machine guns there, some kind of booths - this garbage all sways in different directions, gets stuck out of the blue. But there are chairs inside and air conditioning.