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What personnel from the course training in the USA were "spotlighted" by the officers of the MTR Armed Forces of Ukraine

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Ukrainian military personnel of special operations forces completed training as part of course training at the United University MTR United States (JSOU) in the state of Florida. Course duration was exactly 2 weeks. Representatives of JSOU, who taught Ukrainian officers tactical and strategic planning operations to NATO standards, acted as teachers.


From the message of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine:
There are many obstacles to the integration of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in NATO, such as the legal component, modern equipment and armaments, the divergence of the organizational and staff structures of the units and the like. But an equally important element is the compatibility of standards and planning procedures with joint actions. Therefore, the command of the Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in cooperation with representatives of the Joint University of the Special Operations Forces University (Florida), initiated operational planning courses for officers of the command headquarters and subordinate military units of the SSVF of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


In particular, American professors demonstrated the capabilities of US unmanned vehicles. At one of the lectures there was a discussion of the format of the use of the American reconnaissance-impact UAV MQ-9 Reaper.

What personnel from the course training in the USA were "spotlighted" by the officers of the MTR Armed Forces of Ukraine


From this we can conclude that the United States plans to continue to provide the Ukrainian Armed Forces with data from its unmanned reconnaissance and percussion means for planning special operations. It is not difficult to guess what territory for the attempt to implement these operations can be discussed.

There was also a lecture from the “Traditional Support” series, when an American teacher told Ukrainian “cadets” about the interdependence of various departments in the implementation of the planned headquarters operation.



Ukrainian military servicemen passed an examination on drawing up an algorithm that provides for cases of actions when planning special operations. The algorithm was supposed to suggest options for requesting support funds to complete the mission, as well as cases in which the mission can be folded. Among the reasons for the interruption of the operation, as the algorithm in the photo shows, is a “blackout” (accident in the power system).



Command MTR of Ukraine:
During the course, the participants gained theoretical knowledge and practical skills in planning special operations on NATO standards and procedures. According to the Roadmap of the formation and development of the Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, during 2018-2020, the acquisition of full operational and combat capabilities, completion of re-equipment of military units and subdivisions with the latest weapons and military equipment, as well as the completion of conversion of secondary defense forces to NATO standards is planned.
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  1. Borik
    Borik April 9 2018 16: 54
    +13
    Well, these will teach. how to sell the homeland.
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K April 9 2018 17: 10
      +62
      Quote: Borik
      ... Well, these will teach. how to sell your homeland ...

      I can’t say about selling my homeland. The cockroaches rumble their cockroaches. It is possible that they passionately and earnestly love what is left of them.
      Another issue that goes through the red line in the article is training, equipment, and planning for MTR APU according to NATO standards.
      This is a prelude to direct subordination to NATO structures. Regardless of whether the 404 country joins NATO or not, the MTR will fulfill the tasks assigned from Brussels and Washington.
      Accordingly, geldings receive direct leverage in the underbelly of Russia. For any destabilization, special operations, provocation - there will be no need to risk the skins of their soldiers. Newly baked ones will do as ordered. Moreover, no matter what they say, they are just like us. Mentally, religiously, and even on the face of the same.
      The results of these "courses" will not be long in coming. We must be prepared for this.
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii April 9 2018 17: 25
        +12
        All laid out on shelves, well done Andrew hi There is nothing to add.
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K April 9 2018 17: 41
          +11
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          ... Put everything on the shelves ...

          Hi Vitaliy hi
          On the shelves, the service taught to lay out.
      2. Lelek
        Lelek April 9 2018 17: 42
        +2
        Quote: Andrey K
        This is a prelude to direct subordination to NATO structures. Regardless of whether the 404 country joins NATO or not, the MTR will fulfill the tasks assigned from Brussels and Washington.


        In the event that by that time 404 will remain as one whole "education", of which I personally have a great doubt.
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K April 9 2018 17: 51
          +13
          Quote: Lelek
          ... In that case, if by then 404 will remain as one whole "education", of which I personally have a big doubt ...

          I would not bury the 404th. There the people are caught, but take two - we are in the mirror.
          They will survive where the Westerners flippers would have long stretched.
          I think the 404th will split west, center, east.
          I have a feeling.
          1. Lelek
            Lelek April 10 2018 12: 36
            0
            Quote: Andrey K
            I think the 404th will split west, center, east.

            And I'm about it. And in this 404 will have a lot of "auxiliary" (Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, Romania, well, we will not leave our own for destruction). And the other day, and Turkey was tempted to be a "peacemaker" in the Donbass.
      3. Nikolay Fedorov
        Nikolay Fedorov April 9 2018 18: 31
        +3
        Quote: Andrey K
        Quote: Borik
        ... Well, these will teach. how to sell your homeland ...

        I can’t say about selling my homeland. The cockroaches rumble their cockroaches. It is possible that they passionately and earnestly love what is left of them.

        It’s somehow strange — the Ukrainian love of the motherland ... How can you love an “independent” Ukraine and simultaneously yell “America with us”, hang US and EU flags on government offices, see your government with the president at the head of the table D. Biden is sitting on, listening to, accepting, fulfilling the endless demands of international organizations and hanging incredible debts on his children and grandchildren, selling or giving away Ukrainian land for free to foreigners, as well as other natural resources - for example, forest. All this cannot be called love for the motherland, so this is not love for the motherland, but something else. Ukrainians suffer all this only for the sake of one thing - for the sake of their hatred of Russia. What is betrayed is then usually hated with all their treacherous powers. So Boris is right about the sale of his homeland.
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K April 9 2018 19: 00
          +18
          Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
          ... Somehow she is strange - Ukrainian love for the motherland ...
          ... Ukrainians suffer all this only for the sake of one thing - for the sake of their hatred of Russia. What is betrayed is then usually hated with all their treacherous powers. So Boris is right about the sale of his homeland ...

          Our homeland is different. We understand the love of the motherland in our own way, they are in our own way. Therefore, he wrote about the "rumbling cockroaches." If they loved the Motherland in our understanding, and did not cultivate in themselves (at least the tangible part of the post-maid 404th) the meaning of life in hatred of Russia, then there would be no civil massacre in the Donbass.
          I must admit the fact that for the fifth year they are rolling in waves in the Donbass. And this is no longer frenzied national battalions, but specifically a part of 404th society. Our initial childhood hopes that the people would not support the war did not materialize.
          The Armed Forces of Ukraine is learning to kill, bloody collaborators are smeared through one. It won’t end soon. Brown plague from the German people, knocked out for decades. Here is the same story.
          I’ll probably say a banal and cruel thought, which you’ll probably support as well - until they wash themselves with blood, realize that everything is nothing more, this Jesuit covenant will not stop.
          1. Dashout
            Dashout April 9 2018 20: 45
            +6
            Quote: Andrey K
            until they wash themselves with blood, realize that everything is beyond nothingness, this Jesuit coven will not stop

            I agree! Correctly
          2. Orionvit
            Orionvit April 10 2018 00: 41
            +2
            Quote: Andrey K
            Our homeland is different

            It’s not true that our homeland is one and the same. It was just that the Ukrainians came up with (they came up with) a special homeland, which they never had, and which they shouted with a bang, immediately sold, which they are excessively proud of. In fact, in their desire to be slaves, they sold to their masters a part of our Motherland with you, which they got just like that, after the collapse of the Union. Such things cannot be forgiven.
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K April 10 2018 02: 00
              +10
              Quote: Orionvit
              ... It’s not true, our Motherland is the same. It was just that the Ukrainians came up with (they came up with) a special homeland, which they never had, and which they shouted with cheers, they immediately sold, which they are overly proud of ...

              One Motherland, together with them, we had under the name of the USSR. Unfortunately, this country is not.
              Whether Ukrainians have come up with a special Motherland or not, we have been living neighbors for 27 years. Not just one common family, but neighbors. I proceed from this.
              As my grumpy neighbors dispose of the part they have inherited, once common property is exclusively their business. It is painful to watch how, in an attempt to make me disgusting, my Ukrainian neighbors are tearing down their house and building a bonfire, in the hope that it will also burn with me.
              I have nothing to forgive, they called me a nebrat.
              Let them live in peace.
              1. Orionvit
                Orionvit April 10 2018 14: 44
                0
                Quote: Andrey K
                I have nothing to forgive, they called me a nebrat.
                Let them live in peace.

                But doesn’t it bother you, what kind of "their" homeland did our ancestors shed blood? And they squandered her mediocre.
                1. Andrey K
                  Andrey K April 10 2018 17: 41
                  +7
                  Quote: Orionvit
                  ... But you are not embarrassed, what kind of "their" homeland did our ancestors shed blood? And they squandered her mediocre ...

                  Do not be like horses, do not pull the blanket of a common story on yourself.
                  It doesn’t bother me personally that their ancestors, living in the same country as us, shed blood for our future.
                  Do not forget about it.
                  1. Orionvit
                    Orionvit April 10 2018 17: 48
                    0
                    Quote: Andrey K
                    It doesn’t bother me personally that their ancestors, living in the same country as us, shed blood for our future.

                    Suppose the ancestors of us and they are the same. They became “different” not long ago, and thirty years have passed (I do not mean Zapadentsev). Yes, I am confused (to put it mildly), everything that is happening in Ukraine, since I live here myself (I hope not always) and see everything with my own eyes. But you, I look, have already reconciled with everything, or "a hut from the edge"?
                    1. Andrey K
                      Andrey K April 10 2018 18: 28
                      +7
                      Quote: Orionvit
                      ... Suppose the ancestors of us and they are the same. They became “different” not long ago, and thirty years have passed (I do not mean Zapadentsev). Yes, I am confused (to put it mildly), everything that is happening in Ukraine, since I live here myself (I hope not always) and see everything with my own eyes. But you, I look, have already reconciled with everything, or "a hut from the edge"? ...

                      I started the service in Yavorov. In the 24th motorized rifle Samaro-Ulyanovsk, Berdychiv, three times the Red Banner, orders of Suvorov and Bogdan Khmelnitsky Iron Division.
                      What is zapadenschina, who are zapadentsy and raguli Carpathian, do not tell me. These rats have seen enough. They were always others and never were ours.
                      Concerted or not, I have nothing to put up with. I’ll help the Donbass, I met Kievans and Westerners in Chechnya. Do you suggest that I begin to exhort them and call for brotherly love? God forbid, I’d rather tear the Adam's apple to them.
          3. Nikolay Fedorov
            Nikolay Fedorov April 10 2018 12: 31
            +1
            Quote: Andrey K

            Our homeland is different. We understand the love of the motherland in our own way, they are in our own way.

            We have one homeland - Mother Russia. We are all from one mother - both Russians, and Ukrainians, and Belarusians. Tell the people of Kiev a hundred years ago that Kiev is not a Russian city, if only they would be surprised. Well, the fact that everyone loves their homeland in their own way is what I am talking about.
            Quote: Andrey K
            I’ll probably say a banal and cruel thought, which you’ll probably support as well - until they wash themselves with blood, realize that everything is nothing more, this Jesuit covenant will not stop.

            Quote: Andrey K (just below)
            I have nothing to forgive, they called me a nebrat.
            Let them live in peace.

            Would you, Andrey, decide - let them live in peace and continue to cultivate the hatred that accompanies our corpses, or all the same "until they wash themselves with blood" ... As for me, I think that we should fight. The only question is when.
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K April 10 2018 12: 44
              +6
              Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
              ... You would, Andrei, decide - let them live in peace and continue to grow hatred, accompanied by our corpses ...

              For my definition, do not be discouraged. In his commentary, he placed everything precisely and there is no double reading. I did not insert an interjection "or" between my two phrases, so there is no need to add for me your thoughts between "our corpses" and the wishes of the world. Not pretty.
              Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
              ... What for me - so I think that we must fight. The only question is when ...

              If you think so - go and fight. The question is when, should not stand.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky April 9 2018 19: 13
      +2
      Quote: Borik
      Well, these will teach. how to sell the homeland.

      These and do not need to learn how to sell their homeland in their genes sits.
  2. Alexander War
    Alexander War April 9 2018 16: 55
    +2
    From this we can conclude that the United States plans to continue to provide the APU with data from its unmanned reconnaissance and strike assets for planning special operations. So over the Donbass and so fly the RQ-4 Global Hawk
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 April 9 2018 16: 57
      +2
      Quote: Alexander War
      From this we can conclude that the United States plans to continue to provide the APU with data from its unmanned reconnaissance and strike assets for planning special operations.

      they do this from the very beginning of the conflict.
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii April 9 2018 17: 30
        +5
        At first, they themselves were interested in what was going on there, and then they got into the taste and went into their usual business. hi
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 April 9 2018 17: 40
          +1
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          At first they themselves wondered what was going on there,

          eavesdropped. lol
          and then they got into the taste and went about their usual business. hi

          peep laughing
          Hi hi
  3. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 9 2018 16: 56
    +3
    I think they slept in the middle of the lecture .....

    ok I understand ..... support here support there, then everyone is relocated, and taken away by a group of helicopters at the appointed point .....
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii April 9 2018 17: 37
      +8
      That’s for sure, Nikolai, hi the strongest and sweetest dream is during the lectures, the pen slips out of your hands, all external noises just lull, your head heels and hits the table, but you are more comfortable sitting on the ground ... smile
      1. helmi8
        helmi8 April 9 2018 18: 57
        +2
        Quote: ul_vitalii
        the strongest and sweetest dream is during the lectures, the pen slips out of your hands, all external noises just lull, your head heels and hits the table, but you are more comfortable sitting on the ground ...

        And then, with difficulty, you try to decipher the "sleep curve" ... request laughing
      2. Dedall
        Dedall April 9 2018 21: 02
        +3
        Yeah, ul_vitalii (Vitaliy)as our company company used to say: "A sound sleep is the basis of combat training."
  4. shinobi
    shinobi April 9 2018 16: 57
    +9
    All of these vaunted NATO standards work only with a sevenfold advantage over the enemy. Yes, and only if he has nothing but the old AK in his hands. And not always.
  5. tracer
    tracer April 9 2018 16: 57
    +7
    Georgians were also taught, taught, taught .... as a result. “Timid Georgians fled” .. Well, these are cowards that are natural born, they only have “seven are not afraid” of Nicode. Swam, we know .. And what the Slavs are taught to see. Hardly anything good.
    1. ventel
      ventel April 9 2018 18: 12
      0
      And not the Russian general on the second day of the operation in Moscow was in the hospital. But he was traveling with an excursion so you said there taught little.
      1. yehat
        yehat April 10 2018 12: 31
        0
        lossless war only happens when the Papuans are bombed.
        The United States is trying to reduce all its operations to this formula.
        Iraq, an exemplary operation in terms of the United States, was carried out with a technical superiority of about 15 times — aviation, artillery and long-range missile forces.
        but what would be the result if the ratio were 3: 1? I think the coalition would have suffered heavy losses.
  6. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt April 9 2018 16: 59
    +3
    I was intrigued by the headline about “lit up,” but I didn’t find out anything secret or just interesting. Usual studies. We also train our allies by our own methods and always try to instill our standards in them. In the case of Ukrainian special forces, the situation is similar, they only study in America, and not in Russia, that’s the whole sensation.
  7. Alexander War
    Alexander War April 9 2018 17: 01
    +4
    Here it is necessary to closely monitor the APU, whatever one may say, and they are reequipping and they are already using UAVs including drone in reconnaissance, it is better to overestimate the enemy than not to overestimate
  8. Dormidont
    Dormidont April 9 2018 17: 09
    +4
    Well, now Svidomo will die in boilers according to all the canons of NATO
  9. Vita vko
    Vita vko April 9 2018 17: 11
    +2
    2 weeks for those who somehow speaks English and generally have neither experience nor knowledge, this is of course "cool." No wonder instructors from the Baltic countries go to them, at least a little the level of combat training has become a little higher than the baseboard. But the goal is understandable. Now, American drones will not just fly over the Donbass, but will transmit information directly to the Ukro-chasteners for decryption.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit April 10 2018 00: 49
      +1
      Quote: Vita VKO
      2 weeks for those who somehow speaks English and generally have neither experience nor knowledge, this is of course "cool"

      You can be sure that on the “two-week tour to Florida”, sorry for a business trip, not the most competent officers of the Ukrainian General Staff went, but the senior officials of the Moscow Region. Which, judging by the "boilers", have "incredible abilities" for strategic planning. So much to worry about.
  10. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya April 9 2018 17: 17
    +2
    Slams learn the mind from the lords :).
  11. Ingvar0401
    Ingvar0401 April 9 2018 17: 24
    +2
    Maydaunas and MTR are a terrible, explosive mixture. Scary already horror ...
  12. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD April 9 2018 17: 35
    +2
    The composition of the students would be very interesting .. Professionals of the "Maid" phase? or "young" from the "jumping"?
    1. Slavs
      Slavs April 9 2018 18: 37
      +4
      To Florida for two weeks? !!! For free ? !!! Yes, probably the nephews and sons of the generals, well, maybe they took one with knowledge of English (bespectacled man in the photo), then he would rewrite everything in them in notebooks. Upon arrival, they will receive an extraordinary rank and will, with the mysterious appearance of deadly specialists, train children from the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
  13. u1977020556
    u1977020556 April 9 2018 17: 55
    +1
    And one more “Zaporozhets” will come out of all this. Only without the famous cross-country ability, endurance and popular popularity, and the price will not be cheap at all. The whole question is who will pay, Hohland with its tugriks or Crimea with Donbas with the lives of its citizens.
  14. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio April 9 2018 18: 00
    +1
    and we can teach them how to get the trend from us Germans are already trained
  15. Altona
    Altona April 9 2018 18: 03
    +1
    Quote: DEZINTO
    ok I understand ..... support here support there, then everyone is relocated, and taken away by a group of helicopters at the appointed point .....

    -------------------------------
    Oh, what a quick one ... There is support, and there abort mission ... Or even Call of ... lol laughing
  16. sounddoc
    sounddoc April 9 2018 18: 10
    +1
    Corrupted influence of NATO on fragile minds))))))))
  17. sounddoc
    sounddoc April 9 2018 18: 13
    +3
    Transition to household standards)))))))))))))))))))
  18. Alexander War
    Alexander War April 9 2018 18: 24
    +3
    Well here is an example today of the RQ-4 Global Hawk
  19. Alexander War
    Alexander War April 9 2018 18: 25
    +1
    In the evening, the Frenchman and the American completed the observation mission Here from the 6th day https://mil-avia.livejournal.com/511331.html
  20. gridasov
    gridasov April 9 2018 18: 29
    +3
    At the current level of rapid changes in the operational situation, planning departments are needed as structures that determine strategic tasks. Moreover, it is precisely the methods that adequately respond to changes in these situations that are appropriate for the pace. In other words, planning becomes like improvisation in the spirit of (what will be). Therefore, speaking about planning and modeling in rapidly changing circumstances, you first need to understand what algorithmic thinking is and what mathematics is in analysis of very large volumes of information.
    1. Sergey985
      Sergey985 April 9 2018 21: 56
      0
      In short: what to be, not to be avoided.
      1. gridasov
        gridasov April 9 2018 22: 55
        0
        Almost the way it is. But! If we continue this way, humanity will self-destruct from its own development. And so that this does not happen, so that we can analyze superdynamic and super-intensive events, we need to switch to algorithmic thinking. Thinking based on the analysis of complex relationships in radial space and defined by dominants against the background of all influence factors, and not linear and determined by binary logic.
  21. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT April 9 2018 21: 36
    +2
    The article includes tactical, operational, and strategic planning. Either adversary is final, or the authors of the article are not booming in military science. In two weeks, strategic planning, fun.
    1. Sergey985
      Sergey985 April 9 2018 22: 01
      +1
      You just need to focus on: two weeks in Florida! The rest is secondary and inconsequential. We would like to train, we would train on the spot for at least six months.
  22. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 9 2018 23: 45
    0
    Rodents were also taught at one time. But in Abkhazia this did not help them much.
    And here, these courses are tied to a lot of things, more to equipment,
    which no one will give to the Ukrainians.
  23. Orionvit
    Orionvit April 10 2018 00: 32
    0
    The US plans to continue to provide APU data from its unmanned reconnaissance and strike assets
    So they, if desired, get off quite successfully. Then frostbite and say nothing. A drone, this is not a Malaysian Boeing, you can shoot down.