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The fourth wreck in a week. AH-64E Apache crashed in Kentucky

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In Kentucky (USA), during a training flight at a local site in Fort Campbell, a US military helicopter AH-64E Apache (Apache) crashed, both pilots were killed.


The fourth wreck in a week. AH-64E Apache crashed in Kentucky


The incident occurred on Friday evening, but it was announced only on Saturday morning. The names of the dead pilots are currently not listed.

The crew conducted scheduled training at the time of the accident
- the command of the 101st combat says in a statement aviation brigades.

This is the fourth non-combat loss lately. We remind you that only this week the US Army lost two aircraft: the F-16 and the AV-8B "Harrier", as well as the CH-53E Super Stallion transport helicopter.

In addition, in mid-March, another American aircraft crashed in the USA (Florida) - F / A-18, which was part of the VFA-213 Blacklions squadron of the aircraft carrier George Bush.
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Petty Officer 3rd Class Shawn Hussong / Navy
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  1. figwam
    figwam April 7 2018 18: 57
    +6
    Losses are like in a war.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer April 7 2018 19: 01
      +16
      maybe a “flu”?
      1. 210ox
        210ox April 7 2018 19: 02
        +49
        It somehow doesn’t bother me. The main thing is that we would have as few air accidents as possible.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 April 7 2018 20: 49
          +12
          But surely they will again find the "Russian trace"
          But I doubt that this is sabotage. One or two sabotage is possible, but four in a week, and even in different units ... Terrorists cannot be so powerful (and they won’t be silent after the feat), and intelligence of large countries will not be so substituted.
          One explanation only comes to mind - for some reason, the US Air Force was forced to test old equipment (for example, on the eve of the war against the DPRK). All the equipment that was in reserve. So they are fighting.
          what
          1. hrych
            hrych April 8 2018 02: 21
            +2
            Quote: Shurik70
            So they are fighting.

            And we won’t roar ...
            Quote: newbie
            maybe a “flu”?

            Aviasifilis wassat
          2. krops777
            krops777 April 8 2018 03: 57
            +1
            But I doubt that this is sabotage. One or two sabotage is possible, but four in a week, and even in different units ...


            The United States can all be pulled over and blame who it is necessary, not the first time.
          3. Orionvit
            Orionvit April 8 2018 12: 48
            0
            Quote: Shurik70
            But I doubt that this is sabotage. One or two sabotage is possible

            A sabotage is when an entire airfield is out of order and two hundred aircraft. On one plane, no one will be sprayed. My explanation is the general lack of qualified specialists. Affects the American educational system, which teaches only to write and count in the framework of Soviet high school. There are certainly competent graduates, but they all go either to the financial sector, or to business, or to managers. And the army goes to blacks and Latinos who go to serve in the US Army for the green card. Of course a little exaggerated, but in general, the picture is about this.
            1. 11 black
              11 black April 8 2018 17: 14
              0
              Quote: Orionvit
              Affects the American education system, which teaches only to write and count in the framework of Soviet high school.

              Well, you turned down - it turns out the USSR lost the arms race to idiots and ignoramuses?
              Did fools send spaceships to Pluto and beyond the solar system? Fools created firms like Boeing and Lockheed Martin?
              And the company "Cannes", which actually spent most of the industrialization of the USSR? This, of course, is the level of Soviet high school ...
              1. Setrac
                Setrac April 8 2018 18: 00
                +3
                Quote: 11 black
                Well, you turned down - it turns out the USSR lost the arms race to idiots and ignoramuses?

                The USSR did not lose anything.
                Quote: 11 black
                Did fools send spaceships to Pluto and beyond the solar system?

                And the "fools" confuse automatic vehicles with spacecraft?
                Quote: 11 black
                And the company "Cannes", which actually spent most of the industrialization of the USSR?

                The USSR carried out industrialization on its own, relying solely on its own resources, the Americans were paid with a hard currency three times the price.
                1. 11 black
                  11 black April 9 2018 15: 49
                  0
                  Quote: Setrac
                  The USSR did not lose anything.

                  But fell apart laughing
                  Quote: Setrac
                  And the "fools" confuse automatic vehicles with spacecraft?

                  I didn’t mean the tesla of Ilon Mask ... although they, it must be admitted, designed the superheavy rocket.
                  Quote: Setrac
                  The USSR carried out industrialization on its own, relying solely on its own resources, the Americans were paid with a hard currency three times the price.

                  But it was Cannes and a number of European companies that built hundreds of the most important factories for the USSR from scratch ...
                  1. Setrac
                    Setrac April 9 2018 18: 55
                    +1
                    Quote: 11 black
                    But fell apart

                    But the question was not about the collapse?
                    Quote: 11 black
                    USSR lost the arms race

                    The arms race was not lost.
                    Quote: 11 black
                    I didn’t mean the tesla of Ilon Mask ... although they, it must be admitted, designed the superheavy rocket.

                    It doesn’t matter what you mean, so far the spaceships have not flown further than the Earth’s orbit, if you do not believe in the flight of the Americans to the moon.
                    Quote: 11 black
                    But it was Cannes and a number of European companies that built hundreds of the most important factories for the USSR from scratch ...

                    The USSR itself built hundreds of the most important factories from scratch, relying on OWN resources, the Cannes company simply SOLD the technology to the Soviet Union. I note that the Americans built the German industry FOR HITLER completely free, here they (the Germans) built the industry Americans.
                    1. 11 black
                      11 black April 10 2018 09: 07
                      0
                      Quote: Setrac
                      The USSR itself built hundreds of the most important factories from scratch, relying on OWN resources, the Cannes company simply SOLD the technology to the Soviet Union.

                      About how exactly the USA sold technology to the USSR, read the article "Hooray, they have depression." - everything is detailed and with evidence. More than 700 enterprises, including machine-building plants, were built by Cannes from scratch.
                      It is understandable - they cannot in a agricultural country, ravaged by two wars in a row, get qualified personnel capable of conducting the entire cycle of technological development and design of hundreds of huge factories, equipment for them, building and commissioning of all the equipment of these enterprises. In other factories themselves, on which the USSR could, as you said, “lean” was also not a lot.
                      What exactly to rely on? - What plants were already in the USSR by that time? - only that miraculously survived in the crucible of two wars since the time of tsarist Russia - did he have to rely on this?
                      Quote: Setrac
                      The arms race was not lost.

                      It was the arms race that killed the USSR. He could not stand this race and collapsed - do not agree?
                      Quote: Setrac
                      It doesn’t matter what you mean, so far the spaceships have not flown further than the Earth’s orbit, if you do not believe in the flight of the Americans to the moon.

                      Everything is the finish. There is nothing to add to this ...
                      1. Setrac
                        Setrac April 10 2018 17: 39
                        0
                        Quote: 11 black
                        About how exactly the USA sold the USSR technology, read the article "Hooray, they have depression" - everything is detailed and with evidence. More than 700 enterprises, including machine-building plants, were built by Cannes from scratch.

                        Yes, even with a negative value, what's the difference? For everything was paid, and at a price. The industrialization of the USSR was carried out at the expense of internal resources, the Americans did not invest a cent of their own resources in the USSR.
              2. Orionvit
                Orionvit April 8 2018 19: 05
                +1
                Quote: 11 black
                Did fools send spaceships to Pluto and beyond the solar system? Fools set up firms like Boeing and Lockheed Martin

                If you are aware of the topic itself, then you should know that the last normal engineers in the USA graduated from universities in the 60s, maximum 70s, then liberalization, narrow specialization and general degradation of education followed. It was those specialists of the old engineering school who made a technological breakthrough for the USA in the 50-80s. Now the states make it easier, they just buy brains abroad. What is fundamentally new invented in America. over the past 30 years (after the collapse of the Union)? Almost nothing. They cannot even fly into space.
            2. Korax71
              Korax71 April 8 2018 21: 22
              0
              And statistics, just not ren TV, you can cite. 83-85% of the US army are white, no matter how racist they sound. Before the call, the candidate passes a mandatory IQ test in addition to a medical examination. And, you will be surprised, not a US citizen can get into military service. at least just this Green card must have. the difference between citizenship and the Green card is that the owner of the latter does not have the right to climb, choose, be a jury in court. if the owner of the Green card goes to the army, then he is a full citizenship will receive in a year or two. you seriously think that only in order to have the right to vote on a choice, migrants crowd in the army recourse on the whole, the picture is not exaggerated, but it’s completely distorted. The only thing that may not be far from the truth is that in the last 2 years there is a slight shortage of specialists, the staff is 90% staffed, but this is even easier, this is not connected with education, but with falling unemployment.
              1. Orionvit
                Orionvit April 8 2018 21: 51
                0
                Quote: Korax71
                In addition to a medical examination, the candidate undergoes a mandatory IQ test before calling.

                The conversation is not about the IQ level, but about the skill level of specialists. These are completely different things. Moreover, knowing their general desire for narrow specialization.
      2. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 7 2018 19: 04
        +12
        Quote: newbie
        maybe a “flu”?

        Enterovirus. It's fashionable right now.
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 7 2018 19: 11
          +2
          No, Novichok gas ....
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Quote: newbie
          maybe a “flu”?

          Enterovirus. It's fashionable right now.
          1. newcomer
            newcomer April 7 2018 19: 25
            +10
            consultation can be closed. Apache is dead ...
            1. 210ox
              210ox April 7 2018 19: 32
              +6
              They have these "Apaches" like a fool shag.
              Quote: newbie
              consultation can be closed. Apache is dead ...
              1. novel66
                novel66 April 7 2018 20: 09
                +9
                then we need more often, we’re not working out .....
                1. My doctor
                  My doctor April 7 2018 23: 30
                  0
                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  then we need more often, we’re not working out .....

                  Underdeveloped - you, dear, what do you have to do with air crashes? By chance you did not imagine that they fall at your request. Nothing personal.

                  Quote: 210ox
                  The main thing is that we would have as few air accidents as possible.

                  It is most important.
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 April 8 2018 10: 41
                    +1
                    strange, like Belarusians understand my humor ...
              2. newcomer
                newcomer April 7 2018 20: 44
                +2
                Dmitry, well, for each Apache a consultation, it is not solo.
      3. Ascetic
        Ascetic April 7 2018 19: 31
        +6
        Quote: newbie
        maybe a “flu”?

        The new secret weapon of the Russian Siberian Crane -
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 7 2018 19: 36
          +21
          Quote: Ascetic
          The new secret weapon of the Russian Siberian Crane -

          Right I remember that Putin personally taught them bad things.
          And now, just now, their youth has grown up, has fled yes
      4. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi April 7 2018 19: 49
        +7
        Quote: newbie
        maybe a “flu”?

        Not. The US Air Force has stepped up training of flight personnel.
        1. Galaxy
          Galaxy April 7 2018 20: 05
          +4
          they began to fly more, although before, there were always more Russian pilots flying, so there were more freelance situations and accidents. But only this gives a real result and professionalism. By trial and error, blood and injury, this is how real skill is forged. Good luck to the pilots!
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa April 7 2018 21: 24
            +12
            Quote: Galaxy
            Good luck to the pilots!

            If ours - I agree ... And if the Amam - then they were not called to Syria, Libya, Iraq, and good luck to them is somehow not ethical ... Don’t you? No.
            1. igorka357
              igorka357 April 8 2018 02: 02
              +1
              Listen, well, why bring everything in one direction, if our supreme gives the order, the military is obliged to comply with it, and enter any country ... that’s what they are military to follow orders! They refuse, they are traitors! The essence is different. .we just have a different vector, and we are not going to seize anyone by force, but if we change the vector and begin to act according to the Amer’s doctrine, our soldier will not be different from the American one, and is obliged to fulfill any order!
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa April 8 2018 14: 02
                +1
                Quote: igorka357
                we just have a different vector, and we are not going to seize anyone by force, but if we change the vector and begin to act according to the Amer’s doctrine, our soldier will not be different from the American one, and is obliged to fulfill any order!

                Ohhhh! How did you speak !!!
                People like you therefore put Stalin and Hitler on the same level: after all, both gave orders. At the same time, intentionally forgetting about the "vector".
                And now you are proposing to put on the same board the Amersky l-th Kolya and our A. Matrosov? And anyway, how did this come to your brain tract?
                Well, the last. It is unlikely that our "soldier" (as you deigned to say) will carry out criminal orders ... and, I hope, there will not be such a commander who gives the order to bomb the residential areas ... Yugoslavia taught you nothing?
                1. igorka357
                  igorka357 April 8 2018 15: 26
                  0
                  Then excuse me, according to your words, we don’t have an army, but "I’ll do this, but it’s not" .... you are nonsense! I deliberately indicated to you that we have a different vector, we are going a different way, that you I don’t understand, we’re not conducting wars of conquest, you wrote me no, or maybe my comment didn’t enter your brain! The soldier is obliged to fulfill the order of the commander, and in wartime the tribunal is very tough, and the commander has the right .. you know why! Our flyers bombed Grozny, our artillery leveled not only Grozny, but also hundreds of villages throughout Chechnya .. this is again not the point! And I ask you, draw parallels with Ukraine .. and the DPR yourself, in fact, a mirror situation! Hitler and Stalin, I never compared .. there were strong personalities, Hitler’s mistake was that he popped up on the USSR with blitzkriegs, had he stayed for five years in Europe, think up a little strength with your allies .. it’s not known how it would end, Stalin, bewildered in the early days of the war, quickly pulled himself together .. and he won the war .. and in restoration completely once his merit of the collapsed country is enormous, personally, in my opinion, Joseph Vissarionovich, the historical personality is unconditional for the USSR and the Russian Federation .. and whoever shouts Stalin a tyrant just either does not understand or shouts on purpose! When Stalin died .. my grandmother cried .. because the leader and father died !!! So you in your statement about me .. are deeply mistaken !!!
          2. poquello
            poquello April 7 2018 22: 33
            +2
            Quote: Galaxy
            they began to fly more, although before, there were always more Russian pilots flying, so there were more freelance situations and accidents. But only this gives a real result and professionalism. By trial and error, blood and injury, this is how real skill is forged. Good luck to the pilots!

            exactly, so that everything
        2. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 7 2018 20: 23
          +12
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          U.S. Air Force intensifies flight training

          Yes, it's just Easter ... for lack of Easter eggs - they hit with helicopters belay
        3. newcomer
          newcomer April 7 2018 20: 43
          +3
          Aron Zawi, but I didn’t know ... well, let them activate the fall with flying.
        4. SPACE
          SPACE April 7 2018 20: 47
          +3
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Not. The US Air Force has stepped up training of flight personnel.

          Trained to smash planes and helicopters?
          1. helmi8
            helmi8 April 7 2018 23: 42
            0
            Quote: SPACE
            Trained to smash planes and helicopters?

            I recalled a cartoon about Chip and Dale, where the pilot Zigzag said: "Yes, I crashed more planes than you saw!" smile
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 April 8 2018 09: 56
              0
              Colleague, welcome hi The cartoon was called, "Miracles on bends" recourse
      5. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky April 7 2018 20: 39
        +3
        Quote: newbie
        maybe a “flu”?

        Spring hunting for migratory birds opened.
      6. Piramidon
        Piramidon April 7 2018 20: 52
        0
        Quote: newbie
        maybe a “flu”?

        Or Russian hackers, or a "newbie."
      7. Hanokem
        Hanokem April 7 2018 20: 59
        +4
        Condolences to the families of the dead pilots.
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic April 7 2018 19: 01
      +11
      A short week, all good things come to an end quickly, utilization of the US metal scrap will never end.
    3. Hoc vince
      Hoc vince April 7 2018 19: 04
      +5
      Over the past two years, about 1363 pilots left the US Air Force.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky April 7 2018 20: 42
        +2
        Quote: Hoc vince
        Over the past two years, about 1363 pilots left the US Air Force.

        I read somewhere recently that more than 13 thousand military personnel wrote about the dismissal report on the whole of NATO.
        1. assa67
          assa67 April 7 2018 22: 58
          +2
          13 thousand are common figures ... basically the "European" contingent ... and with a flight personnel of 1300 ... the Pentagon announced a shortage of 2000 pilots ...
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky April 7 2018 23: 51
            +2
            Quote: assa67
            13 thousand are common figures ... basically the "European" contingent ... and with a flight personnel of 1300 ... the Pentagon announced a shortage of 2000 pilots ...

            I write that "as a whole on NATO." In general, over the month the United States lost 7 units of aircraft with the number of victims of more than 20 people.
            1. assa67
              assa67 April 8 2018 00: 03
              +2
              noticed sorry hi .... "invincible" farts, and it pleases .... while they prepare new ones, how many more "non-combat" losses will be ....
              Quote: seti
              we will definitely not cry on this helicopter and the pilots.

              I definitely won’t
        2. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell April 8 2018 00: 34
          +4
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          .. over the last time, more than 13 thousand military personnel wrote dismissal reports.

          No wonder they don’t understand much. Yesterday I talked with a former English pilot, captain: 10 years of active service, three missions to Iraq, four to Afghanistan, a mission half a year, preparation half a year, we must also go on vacation ... Well, as you say, you defended your homeland thousands of miles from home ? He did not answer this question, went to the airline, “scary” yellowing
          But the human pilots are sorry, the military has such a fate, close to patience
    4. seti
      seti April 7 2018 19: 06
      +14
      We will not cry for this helicopter and the pilots will definitely not.
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 7 2018 19: 08
      +8
      And the Bell 212 Helicopter of the Italian Navy crashed a couple of days ago. Total 3 aircraft and 3 helicopters.

      Helicopter Bell 212 Italian Navy fell into the sea during an exercise. There are victims

      It became known that on the night of Friday 6 of April the helicopter of the Italian Navy, which participated in the “Tranquil Sea” maneuvers, crashed. On board the Bell SH 212 helicopter, which was part of the aviation wing of the Italian Navy's Comandante Borsini, were five people. At the moment, it is known about the death of one of the Italian soldiers.

      It is stated that Andrea Fazio (the name of the serviceman) died already after he and the other servicemen had been raised from the surface of the Mediterranean Sea, into which the helicopter had fallen.

      From the statement of the press service of the Italian Navy:
      "Andrea Fazio passed away during resuscitation."

      Bell 212 is a multipurpose helicopter manufactured by the American company Bell and the Italian Agusta.

      Helicopters of this type have been operating in the armed forces of NATO countries for exactly 50 years. The start of operation was laid in 1968 year. Passenger capacity of the helicopter - 8 people.

      On the causes of the crash of the helicopter of the Italian Navy is not reported. On the "Comandante Borsini" arrived a commission from among the representatives of the Ministry of Defense.
      1. Kars
        Kars April 7 2018 21: 23
        +5
        Plus xNUMX crashed in South Korea.
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 April 7 2018 22: 04
          +1
          And in Italy too.
    6. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog April 7 2018 19: 11
      +3
      Damn, as we have in the 90s .... at least the symptoms are the same ....
    7. Dam
      Dam April 7 2018 20: 00
      +6
      They began to fly a lot, and the equipment is old. At this pace of preparation for a war with us, there will be nothing to fight
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 April 8 2018 02: 06
        0
        Come on .. don’t distort, they have no turntables for us ..!
    8. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek April 7 2018 20: 01
      +4
      Quote: figvam
      Losses are like in a war.

      so maybe it is so write off the Syrian losses ??? wink request laughing laughing laughing
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 7 2018 20: 10
        +5
        Nah, Kolya, hi in Syria go dozens!
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek April 7 2018 20: 19
          +3
          Quote: novel xnumx
          Nah, Kolya, hi in Syria go dozens!

          drinks hi Well, the main thing is to start !! wink lol lol
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 7 2018 20: 28
            +3
            ohhhhhhhhhh! drinks give !!!!
    9. Maz
      Maz April 7 2018 21: 55
      +2
      Earth them with a green flame.
  2. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii April 7 2018 19: 03
    +13
    What other models they have left, the Almighty selects one copy at an exhibition.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic April 7 2018 19: 34
      +10
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      What other models they have left, the Almighty selects one copy at an exhibition.

      Rather, Satan is a squadron in hell .. This is for them for Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, etc.
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 April 7 2018 22: 08
        +3
        Stanislas hi They have many models of aircraft.
        Rather, Satan is a squadron in hell .. This is for them for Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, etc.

        I join, let them replenish. good
        Z.Y. Behind! drinks
        1. Kasym
          Kasym April 7 2018 22: 47
          +3
          Hello, Sergey! This was inevitable, before Trump, many cars were joked, the pilots began to leave, the raid began to decline. Now Trump has “poured” money and decided to quickly restore everything. But skills should be gradually returned and equipment should be repaired (many cars require repair and modernization - actually fun) ... These stupid clashes of the Navy ships, in my opinion, are from the same series. drinks
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 April 7 2018 23: 18
            +2
            Dauren hi I agree completely. I also don’t like what our people destroyed, and the Americans stored it.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym April 8 2018 01: 31
              +2
              Sergey, with the holiday of you and your loved ones, health and all the best! drinks Let's see what this storage will lead to. smile
            2. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter April 8 2018 08: 15
              +2
              Seryoga! hi drinks
              The fourth wreck in a week. AH-64E Apache crashed in Kentucky

              One or two incidents - an incident, three - a trend, four - a pattern. bully
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 April 8 2018 08: 22
                +1
                Pasha, hi hi Duc they have more than four, not everyone wrote about here. On the one hand, it’s kind of like ... and on the other - nothing, it seems ...
                Z.Y. Christ is Risen! good
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter April 8 2018 09: 39
                  +2
                  Truly Risen! soldier Seryoga, I once gave you a link to Aria. I repeat:
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 April 8 2018 10: 20
                    +1
                    Pasha, I understand your idea. I like her.
                    I somehow laid out and also repeat
                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter April 8 2018 10: 27
                      +3
                      And I knew that you would understand. drinks Thanks for the video! drinks
                      1. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 April 8 2018 10: 32
                        +2
                        And thank you, more greetings from Rybinsk. drinks drinks drinks
                      2. Kasym
                        Kasym April 8 2018 23: 23
                        +2
                        Pasha, hi! Happy holiday to you! drinks All the best! drinks
  3. Fayter2017
    Fayter2017 April 7 2018 19: 06
    +3
    I once read that with the increase in the number of training flights, the number of accidents increases and this is normal, or rather, naturally, the human factor has not been canceled. Also, before the Second World War, many commanders of aviation units reduced training flights to the maximum, so that, God forbid, an accident occurs, otherwise the epaulettes fly, As a result, the planes are standing, the pilots are not flying, but the commander is sleeping quietly ...
  4. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 7 2018 19: 08
    +4
    Sorry, could bring down ...
    Well, we have enough of these American stuff for our century ..
  5. Spambox
    Spambox April 7 2018 19: 09
    +7
    Losses are scanty. If you take the number of departures, and divide it by the number of incidents, then the statistics will surprise you. The US Army, even without NATO member countries, makes the largest number of sorties around the world, plus aircraft of the Marine Corps and the National Guard. No one is safe from flight accidents and equipment failures. Unfortunately, we can only dream of so many pieces of equipment, hours of flight personnel, and the quality of ground handling.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic April 7 2018 19: 44
      +10
      Quote: Spambox
      Losses are scanty. If you take the number of departures, and divide it by the number of incidents, then the statistics will surprise you.

      In 2017, the number of employees of the US Armed Forces who died as a result of non-combat air crashes increased by 130%.
      John McCain, the head of the Senate Committee on the Armed Forces, himself a former pilot of US carrier-based aviation, also declared a critical situation.
      «Perhaps the main harm to our national security and the armed forces is ourselves. "We kill more of our troops during training than the enemy on the battlefield.", - Fox News quotes him.
      In February 2017, U.S. Naval Air Commander Admiral William Moran said that only half of the 542 F-18 Super Hornet fighters were in flight condition, and only 31% of aircraft were fully operational for immediate departure. In the U.S. Marine Corps, which is equipped with older F-18 models, about 70% of aircraft cannot take off.

      Admiral Troy Shoemaker, speaking on the defense committee of the U.S. House of Representatives, said that in order to maintain combat readiness in various units, F-18 aircraft have to be constantly rotated, which reduces the training time for pilots in training squadrons.
      In addition, in order to prepare these flight formations, several hundred spare parts had to be removed from other Super Hornet aircraft throughout the Navy, further reducing the combat readiness of squadrons and increasing the load on repair units", - quotes the words of the American naval commander Fox News.
      About obsolete military sides back in 2016, before his presidency, Donald Trump announced. He was ridiculed when, in one of his campaign speeches, he declared that American military pilots had to get spare parts for their outdated aircraft from the famous cemetery of decommissioned Mogilnik aircraft located in Arizona.
      This statement was met with a storm of indignation from the majority of American media, but then officials of the US Armed Forces confirmed the fact of removal of spare parts for B-1 bombers from the Arizona "Mogilnik", as well as the sale of the latest modifications of F-16 aircraft along with this military UAE.
      1. Maz
        Maz April 7 2018 21: 57
        0
        We work, brother ....
  6. Evgeny Strygin
    Evgeny Strygin April 7 2018 19: 10
    +1
    strange, but such massive non-combat in the United States almost every spring. Is specificity possible?
  7. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 7 2018 19: 16
    +7
    It’s just that "partners" have some kind of trouble .... One thing will fall, then another ... some kind of garbage dump ... recourse
  8. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor April 7 2018 19: 17
    +4
    Hopefully next week they will pass as well. good
  9. dojjdik
    dojjdik April 7 2018 19: 17
    +1
    it’s almost normal, in vain, probably our Academy of Sciences in Syria fell, someone better to think first and then show off
  10. Egorovich
    Egorovich April 7 2018 19: 17
    +4
    This is not anthrax to blame for this case of Amer aircraft, but the American plague. The score will go to tens soon.
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya April 7 2018 19: 37
      +6
      Quote: Egorovich
      The score will go to tens soon

      killing themselves? recourse don't count on it ....
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich April 7 2018 20: 03
        +3
        The more Amer’s equipment self-destructs, the better. Let it be so! repeat
  11. flicker
    flicker April 7 2018 19: 26
    +6
    The fourth wreck in a week. AH-64E Apache crashed in Kentucky
    The McCain affair lives on - McCain could have long been presented with the title of Hero of the Soviet Union or Russia (25 destroyed American planes - not everyone can boast).
  12. jovanni
    jovanni April 7 2018 19: 27
    +1
    Well, what can you say, they are military people, they knew what they were going for. It happens. But the Germans feel sorry for whom the truck moved ...
  13. Shahno
    Shahno April 7 2018 19: 28
    +2
    And what in Russia generally canceled training and test flights? Or censorship torments ...
    1. Alena767
      Alena767 April 7 2018 20: 01
      +10
      For the owners of the abusive?
      1. Shahno
        Shahno April 7 2018 20: 31
        0
        Are you talking about Martians? .... Or about Yahweh ...? And sometimes it’s a shame for Russia ...
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic April 7 2018 20: 06
      +9
      Quote: Shahno
      in Russia generally canceled training and test flights? Or censorship torments ...

      It doesn’t bother, for example, in 2015, 9 aircraft were lost during a flight accident, eight people died in these accidents in the United States in just four weeks. In 2016, they lost one MIG-29K during the landing approach on the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier. In the USA over the same period, no less than 14 military aircraft were damaged as a result of various accidents!
      If we take even earlier statistics for the period since 2000, then on average Russia lost 10 aircraft per year from non-combat losses.
      1. Spambox
        Spambox April 7 2018 20: 51
        0
        Even if they lose 10 per month from what they fly, we will still be ahead in terms of the percentage of failures on a plane (((
        1. Shahno
          Shahno April 7 2018 20: 55
          0
          So it’s so .... But the sediment will remain ...
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 7 2018 19: 29
    +2
    We can only state that this is wf not casual. Most likely, the intensity of flights increased, and significantly winked Why's that? Getting ready ...
    1. san4es
      san4es April 7 2018 19: 40
      +8
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      ... Most likely, the intensity has increased.

      ... Or they don’t know how to fly
      November 2012, XNUMX
      2016 Greece
      1. NN52
        NN52 April 7 2018 19: 59
        +6
        In both cases, on the video, the pilot’s mistake ... And on the first one there is also air hooliganism ...
        Leading to disaster ...
        1. Shahno
          Shahno April 7 2018 20: 06
          +2
          Definitely .... It feels like the guys on the “arms” start up a fighter ... They indulge in something ... Errors of the first year.
        2. san4es
          san4es April 7 2018 20: 08
          +5
          Quote: NN52
          .. And on the first one there is also air hooliganism ...
          Leading to disaster ...

          ... The highlands of Afghanistan did not forgive this sad
          1. NN52
            NN52 April 7 2018 20: 16
            +3
            Reassessment of its capabilities, and illiterate operation of aircraft ... in high altitude conditions, as you wrote san4es.

            I hope for the family of the dead pilots wrote a refusal AT ...
        3. san4es
          san4es April 7 2018 20: 15
          +5
          Quote: NN52
          ... leading to disaster ...

          ... Here it is not clear ... like a screw fell off or the rotor "jammed" recourse
          1. NN52
            NN52 April 7 2018 20: 20
            +2
            It seems so ... the rotor blade flew off ... chopped them not weak ... lucky that they did not catch fire ...
          2. Guillon
            Guillon April 7 2018 20: 29
            +1
            And mine was blown off the roof! recourse
            1. san4es
              san4es April 7 2018 20: 40
              +3
              Quote: Gillaton
              ... something was blown off the roof! recourse

              ... The blade must have flown away, then the rotor of the "wedge caught" from a skew:
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek April 7 2018 20: 13
        +4
        Quote: san4es
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        ... Most likely, the intensity has increased.

        ... Or they don’t know how to fly
        November 2012, XNUMX
        2016 Greece

        it seems to me or in both vidos - unsuccessful show-offs ???? wassat wassat lol lol lol
        1. san4es
          san4es April 7 2018 20: 20
          +4
          Quote: Nikolai Grek
          - unsuccessful show off ????

          hi ... they are not successful
          1. NN52
            NN52 April 7 2018 21: 26
            +2
            Well, do not tell ... there are ...
            1. san4es
              san4es April 7 2018 21: 44
              +4
              Quote: NN52
              Well, do not tell ... there are ...

              . stop ... not to be confused with bluffing wink
              1. NN52
                NN52 April 7 2018 22: 03
                +2
                san4es

                And Valery Chkalov with his span under the bridge, who?
                1. san4es
                  san4es April 7 2018 22: 23
                  +2
                  Quote: NN52
                  And Valery Chkalov with his span under the bridge

                  - test pilot yes soldier
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 April 8 2018 11: 40
                    +2
                    Test pilot

                    And the "air bully" besides. good
                    1. NN52
                      NN52 April 8 2018 11: 56
                      +3
                      Happy Sergey !!!

                      Not without it ... But the speaker ... wink
        2. LUCKY777
          LUCKY777 April 9 2018 11: 32
          +2


          Probably should have turned out like this. It should be shown to all American pilots that in a week there will be no helicopter left.
      3. Bully
        Bully April 7 2018 20: 45
        +2
        In the case of a helicopter that crashed into the sea, it is surprising that there were no men on the beach ready to come to the rescue of the pilot. Just dibilism to stand and shoot on a mobile phone as a person dies.
        1. Orkraider
          Orkraider April 7 2018 22: 00
          +1
          I was also surprised that no one ran to help. Everyone is standing and chewing.
  15. Altona
    Altona April 7 2018 19: 40
    +7
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Enterovirus. It's fashionable right now.

    No, now it’s fashionable to eat buckwheat. laughing
  16. Altona
    Altona April 7 2018 19: 43
    +2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Most likely, the intensity of flights increased

    ----------------------------------
    The main thing is that the trend does not interrupt. The tundra is big, let it fall. hi
  17. captain
    captain April 7 2018 19: 52
    +4
    It’s not worth rejoicing. The pilots had families and children. Apparently there are parents and rejoicing in the grief of strangers is a sin. Although for true Leninists this is the opposite of joy.
    1. PalBor
      PalBor April 7 2018 21: 12
      +1
      No need to blame everyone. Of course, there can be no joy here. Just the fact of the loss of the enemy.
      1. PalBor
        PalBor April 8 2018 00: 27
        +1
        The seventh drop in twenty days. That's it. Are underground workers working?
  18. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion April 7 2018 20: 26
    0
    Quote: Masya Masya
    It’s just that "partners" have some kind of trouble .... One thing will fall, then another ... some kind of garbage dump ... recourse


    It’s just the first day they trained bailouts with pilots in case of airplane failure winked And on the second, we have already moved to the main stage - the actions of the pilots during an emergency landing, but something went wrong request
  19. NordOst16
    NordOst16 April 7 2018 21: 05
    +1
    The technique is complicated, anything can happen. But, of course, I would like our cars to lose as little as possible
  20. PalBor
    PalBor April 7 2018 21: 07
    +2
    F-15 in Korea forgot ... Anti-American guerrillas acting?
  21. Dormidont
    Dormidont April 7 2018 21: 08
    +1
    A trifle, but nice
  22. Vitas
    Vitas April 7 2018 21: 29
    +2
    The virus "Old Man")))
  23. koramax81
    koramax81 April 7 2018 21: 29
    +1
    And they say only we break ....
  24. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy April 7 2018 21: 36
    +1
    I don’t know what these problems with Americans’s aviation are specifically related to, but the fact that the Americans steal godlessly while repairing aircraft is a fact.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 7 2018 21: 42
      +3
      Quote: ButchCassidy
      I don’t know what these problems with Americans’s aviation are specifically related to, but the fact that the Americans steal godlessly while repairing aircraft is a fact.

      How dare you, darling, slander the "most-most exclusive nation", as its former Afro-Amer leader defines it? wassat
      To steal and be rude, according to some figures from our cinema, we can current ....
      laughing
      1. The comment was deleted.
  25. Berkut24
    Berkut24 April 7 2018 21: 36
    +2
    And this is against the backdrop of sanctions and calls not to buy Russian weapons. In general, the last week the States are just gushing with good news. One of these days they wrote that against the background of constant crashes, military pilots all in large quantities reached the exit from the Pentagon.
  26. Vlad Morozov
    Vlad Morozov April 7 2018 22: 01
    +2
    This is American quality guys!
  27. Vard
    Vard April 7 2018 22: 28
    0
    The reason is the mass dismissal of the pilots ... And of their own free will ... Inexperienced people are replacing them ... So they are fighting ...
    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy April 7 2018 23: 28
      0
      This problem is also there. In civil aviation, pilots get much more.
  28. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 8 2018 00: 07
    0
    You also got a lot of planes from Admiral Kuznetsov. They even have newer Apaches than your Mi-24s, which are already 40 years old.
  29. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova April 8 2018 01: 54
    0
    Quote: newbie
    maybe a “flu”?

    Air Group Air Group.
  30. jarpensky
    jarpensky April 8 2018 05: 11
    0
    Quote: Egorovich
    The more Amer’s equipment self-destructs, the better. Let it be so! repeat

    And the hypertonic civilian contingent of naglosos and mattresses will also be "better" - hardening such a possible epidemic of the airborne flu in Syria .., against the background of chemical provocation in the Duma ...
  31. sgapich
    sgapich April 8 2018 07: 25
    +1
    As usual. pictured AH-64A, the article talks about the AH-64E.
    They even differ in appearance - in the AH-64E modification there is an AN / APG-78 millimeter-wave (Ka) radar, in the container above the rotor hub developed by Longbow Group LLC
    For comparison: AH-64E photo from military-today.com
  32. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine April 8 2018 07: 47
    +2
    The mushrooms “Moscow’s hand” were mixed into sugar fuel tanks, that’s the accident, and our hackers disabled the navigation equipment. It’s time to tighten sanctions.
  33. omit
    omit April 8 2018 07: 52
    +1
    How do you like someone else’s sorrow to rejoice, would be smarter - would be silent. When you are in trouble, we will at least be silent. Maximum - we will condole. Your teachers are bad.
    1. Machete
      Machete April 8 2018 10: 21
      +1
      Yesterday, IgIlovtsy killed several more Syrians. do you condole
      Or the Palestinians were again wetted by the gallant Israeli military. Also, probably, crying at night with grief?
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor April 10 2018 12: 58
      0
      For us, FSA = Fascist Germany, why should it be sad?
  34. unignm
    unignm April 8 2018 08: 14
    0
    terrible lack of professionalism of pilots, rusty technology. Well, something like this is written and commented on our wrecks
  35. Salx
    Salx April 8 2018 08: 33
    0
    Quote: omit
    How do you like someone else’s sorrow to rejoice, would be smarter - would be silent. When you are in trouble, we will at least be silent. Maximum - we will condole. Your teachers are bad.

    Syrians do not want to condole ???? Or does religion get in the way? am
  36. Altona
    Altona April 8 2018 09: 21
    +1
    Quote: captain
    It’s not worth rejoicing. The pilots had families and children. Apparently there are parents and rejoicing in the grief of strangers is a sin. Although for true Leninists this is the opposite of joy.

    ------------------
    For true White Guards, any loss of intervention is a great grief. Understand. You are in solidarity with your sponsors.
  37. Machete
    Machete April 8 2018 10: 19
    +1
    Campaign, a resource for technology on the verge.
    But they spend tens of billions on "fraternal" help to allies (slaves).
    Something this is very reminiscent of ....
    The USSR, probably ... we, too, gave everything to everyone for an astronomical amount, while we ourselves stood at empty shelves ....
  38. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat April 8 2018 14: 21
    0
    the losses are greater than during the war!
  39. Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 9 2018 03: 15
    0
    Yes, let ... The more it breaks, the less it will fly over Donbass ..
  40. Lynx33
    Lynx33 April 9 2018 07: 29
    0
    The number of flights has increased, less experienced pilots are landing at the helm, they are obviously preparing for a world war, and they have begun to fall more often.