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The SBU did not comply with the decision of the Kherson court to release the captain "Nord"

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The captain of the Russian fishing vessel “Nord” was released by the decision of the Kherson City Court immediately after the court session. However, it was stated that Vladimir Gorbenko is released “before the main hearing”. According to the latest data, today in 12: 00 local time, the court will convene again to render the final verdict as far as a restraint for a Russian citizen.


RIA News cites the statement of Vladimir Gorbenko:
I feel mediocre. During this time I already had two hypertensive crises. Yesterday, the doctors, after registering me in an insulator, had high pressure - 210 on 100. Some doctors made decisions to hospitalize me, then, when they heard the information that the convoy would guard me, refused to leave me in the hospital.


The Russian lawyer noted that the SBU officers actually ignored the decision of the Kherson court and, violating the law, left Vladimir Gorbenko actually in custody.

From the statement of the lawyer, which leads Interfax:
That is, the security services and border guards, in violation of all norms, continued to hold the person when they no longer had the right to do this and brought him to court, in the hope that the judge would choose a preventive measure, but the judge figured out everything (before the main meeting).


Local media reported that a scuffle took place near the courthouse, during which Ukrainian border guards were called clowns. Frames are represented on YouTube:
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 April 6 2018 05: 43
    +7
    In Dill there is no power not the law, which they confirm.
    In this case, to take the Khokhlyatsk ship with the crew and exchange it for our citizens, because, according to the "illegality" of Dill, the fishermen will not be able to be rescued.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 6 2018 05: 46
      +12
      Quote: Spartanez300
      In Dill there is neither the power of the law, which they confirm.

      ours, too, do not get killed in the efforts to free the captain and crew. Are they waiting for the captain to die? then, yes, there will be reasons to express concern and regret.
      1. dik-nsk
        dik-nsk April 6 2018 06: 02
        +5
        I already had two hypertensive crises during this time
        some sensitive captain .. no, the situation is unpleasant, it’s understandable, but what kind of captain are you playing a jelly young lady
        1. Volodin
          Volodin April 6 2018 06: 18
          +32
          Quote: dik-nsk
          but what kind of captain is you - playing the sour young lady

          It's a shame to talk about this man. If this captain, as you say, "played the sour young lady," he would have passed the Russian passport on the first day and would have pereobulsya in the "Ukrainian" together with the whole team. But people stand their ground: "We are citizens of Russia!"

          One should not forget that he is not the captain (commander) of the missile cruiser, but the captain of a fishing vessel - health is what it is ...
          1. bald
            bald April 6 2018 06: 31
            0
            The crew had to admit that they are citizens of Ukraine. (RIA Novosti, today) They say - forced.
            1. Grandfather
              Grandfather April 6 2018 06: 35
              0
              Quote: bald
              The crew had to admit that they are citizens of Ukraine. (RIA Novosti, today) They say - forced.

              facts to the studio.
              1. bald
                bald April 6 2018 06: 44
                0
                Today in the news RIA NEWS.
              2. bald
                bald April 6 2018 06: 48
                +2
                A piece from RIA NEWS --- "... Later, the lawyers of the sailors reported that the detainees were forced to identify themselves as Ukrainians, and the captain of the seiner was kidnapped: representatives of the marine guard No. 23 approached the vessel and asked the captain to leave" for a second ", after which he was taken away in an unknown direction.

                RIA News https://ria.ru/world/20180406/1518035234.html
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis April 6 2018 08: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: bald
                  detainees forced to recognize themselves as Ukrainians

                  Forced! And different things did not recognize themselves as citizens of Russia ... Maybe you remember the film -PP ---- A regular flight with a cargo of fuel, at the beginning there were no signs of trouble, but in the southern latitudes our ship was attacked by a Chinese military ship, and the whole crew was in captured by associates of the Chiang Kai-shek regime.
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpkjqeR
                  yuEU The film was created at official events !!! Something very similar situation ...
                  1. bald
                    bald April 6 2018 08: 43
                    0
                    These are the details, I just covered the news on the topic.
                    1. Xnumx vis
                      Xnumx vis April 6 2018 09: 40
                      0
                      The devil is in the details! Between "Forced sailors to recognize themselves as citizens of Ukraine, and the crew recognized themselves as citizens of Ukraine ..." A huge difference! Why are you trying to denigrate sailors?
                      1. bald
                        bald April 6 2018 11: 54
                        +1
                        You are mistaken, it would be closer to me, to release them by force, together with the captain, to close the Sea of ​​Azov to them - let them float on rafts along their cords. Take it easy. I will say more, if you do it mildly, then this will continue all the time (who we want to grab, what we want to shoot down (Boeing)). It's time to end them. Just see someone financially beneficial this mess.
            2. Piramidon
              Piramidon April 6 2018 09: 43
              +1
              Quote: bald
              The crew had to admit that they are citizens of Ukraine. (RIA Novosti, today) They say - forced.

              Well, why make such stuffing and drive the gag? There is nothing in RIA Novosti reports about any recognition by the crew of Ukrainian citizenship.
              1. bald
                bald April 6 2018 12: 25
                0
                This is not a stuffing, well, not an article, but to drag it completely here. Drive into the search engine "find the article Captain of the ship" Nord "released in the courtroom." There you will choose -


                The captain of the ship "Nord" was released in the courtroom - RIA ...
                ria.ru5: 00 today
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon April 6 2018 12: 32
                  0
                  Quote: bald
                  This is not a stuffing, well, not an article, but to drag it completely here. Drive into the search engine "find the article Captain of the ship" Nord "released in the courtroom." There you will choose -


                  The captain of the ship "Nord" was released in the courtroom - RIA ...
                  ria.ru5: 00 today

                  I read this article, but that I found nothing in the crew that I recognized myself as citizens of Ukraine. No need to drag the whole article. Give at least a quote about this.
                  1. bald
                    bald April 6 2018 15: 00
                    0
                    There are several articles, you need to read "5:00 today." Now I read and compare time, their article was under time 03 with something - and this one at 05.00. The first said that the crew had to admit that they were citizens of Ukraine. But in this one it’s different - "... Later, the lawyers of the sailors reported that the detainees were forced to admit themselves to be Ukrainians." Corrected? Well, I read it to my own eyes. I wonder myself. And the time of 03.00 article disappeared.
          2. dik-nsk
            dik-nsk April 6 2018 06: 42
            0
            If this captain, as you say, “played a jelly young lady”, he would have handed over the Russian passport on the first day and would change his shoes to “Ukrainian” along with the whole team
            what would it give him? the term as a Ukrainian, but with the passport of the Russian Federation there is still the opportunity to return, so your arguments are past .. but about health .. he’s the captain of the vessel, no matter what, but then he’s “fainting” .. I don’t believe (s, Stanislavsky) Of course, I wish everyone to return from the dungeons
          3. tchoni
            tchoni April 6 2018 08: 13
            +2
            Quote: Volodin
            It's a shame to talk about this man. If this captain, as you say, "played the sour young lady," he would have passed the Russian passport on the first day and would have pereobulsya in the "Ukrainian" together with the whole team. But people stand their ground: "We are citizens of Russia!"

            So I am ashamed that Russia does nothing to protect such its citizens. It seems that if the Israeli crew of the Israeli ship were in such a situation, then all Ukrainian armed ships would be at the bottom, even if all their weapons would be reduced to a shotgun in the captain’s cabin. But alas. we are not israel. In the exercises, we can famously drown the Khokhlyat fleet, but in practice, alas, we express concerns and restrict the movement of OUR fishermen so that the Ukrainians “do not capture” them
            1. Usher
              Usher April 8 2018 07: 30
              0
              Why are you so stupid, the West is waiting for this to have an excuse.
          4. Lelek
            Lelek April 6 2018 13: 25
            0
            Quote: Volodin
            But people stand their ground: "We are citizens of Russia!"

            hi , Alexei.
            And Russia needs to do everything possible and impossible for the return of the crew and ship. Neither Kiev nor anyone else can forgive such things. How to do this - they must come up with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Justice, the Defense Ministry, which have a place to do this.
      2. 210ox
        210ox April 6 2018 06: 21
        +4
        They won’t tell us what they’re doing .. A column passed through Kerch .. БТРы82 ... One, even without a wheel on a rigid coupling, dragged another .. The movement is on. The truth is unknown where ..
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: Spartanez300
        In Dill there is neither the power of the law, which they confirm.

        ours, too, do not get killed in the efforts to free the captain and crew. Are they waiting for the captain to die? then, yes, there will be reasons to express concern and regret.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather April 6 2018 06: 37
          +3
          Quote: 210ox
          210query (Dmitry) Today, 06: 21 ↑
          They won’t tell us what they’re doing .. A column passed through Kerch .. БТРы82.

          to Kherson ... we went for Cap ... yeah ... right now ...
      3. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 April 6 2018 06: 28
        +9
        Grandfather
        ... something they do not kill in the efforts to free the captain and crew. are waiting for the captain to die?
        Do you know exactly what measures are being taken? Or do you want diplomats, special services to tell the media about each step? As soon as it was announced the creation of a group to combat Ukrainian piracy and the possibility of blocking fishing opportunities for Ukrainian courts, the judge immediately made a deliberate and correct decision. But this is not serious at all
        waiting for the captain to die? then yes, there will be reasons to express concerns and regrets
      4. Ascetic
        Ascetic April 6 2018 07: 45
        +4
        Quote: Dead Day
        ours, too, do not get killed in the efforts to free the captain and crew. Are they waiting for the captain to die? then, yes, there will be reasons to express concern and regret.

        It must be understood that this provocation was prepared by the American secret services under the wrong flag and the wrong hands, in the form of which Ukrainian border guards spoke. The sailors on the ship are kept as bait, counting on the military actions of the Russian special forces to free them, traps and surprises for us are probably ready. One can only guess what the purpose of this provocation is, if some important Western specialists were captured during the liquidation of the boiler in the suburbs of Damascus, the exchange for Russian security officials who recklessly came across during the hostage rescue operation would be an ideal option. Actually, various liberals, national traitors and pseudo-patriots call for this, they crave the same American shame for Russia ....

        but they won’t succeed. Russians do not give up anyway.
        Our sailors courage and patience ...
      5. raw174
        raw174 April 6 2018 12: 38
        +2
        Quote: Dead Day
        ours, too, do not get killed in the efforts to free the captain and crew. Are they waiting for the captain to die? then, yes, there will be reasons to express concern and regret.

        Do you propose to raise the BSF on alarm? On a provocation (and this is a provocation), you need to respond with a cold head. Haste is needed when catching fleas and chasing someone else's wife, but here you need to act carefully and accurately.
    2. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 April 6 2018 05: 55
      +6
      Here either a power capture to which our soft-bodied politicians are unlikely to go, or an exchange. I think, for example, the United States or Israel itself would not stand on ceremony and bother to recapture its citizens.
      1. The black
        The black April 6 2018 05: 59
        +4
        And why be surprised if in power in Ukraine are criminals who come in the blood of a coup. The current government in Kiev is illegal in form, gangster in essence and Nazi in ideology. Nazism is the official political ideology.
        1. next322
          next322 April 6 2018 06: 30
          +8
          Quote: Black
          if the authorities in Ukraine are criminals who come in the blood of a coup. The current government in Kiev is illegal in form

          Russia recognized this power ..... And even maintains diplomatic relations with it ....
          1. raw174
            raw174 April 6 2018 12: 44
            +1
            Quote: next322
            Russia recognized this power ..... And even maintains diplomatic relations with it ....

            Do you think that in vain? By this, the Kremlin escaped war, a direct armed conflict. If not for deep. relations, the heads of the "confused" military of the RF Armed Forces would be sent by parcel, no exchanges would take place ... The one who said that a better world is better than a good war is right ...
            1. Petrol cutter
              Petrol cutter April 6 2018 20: 39
              +1
              "Do you think that it is in vain? With this, the Kremlin escaped war, direct armed conflict. If it were not for diplomatic relations, the heads of the" confused "military forces of the Russian Federation would be sent by parcel, no exchanges would take place ... The one who said that a better world is better than good war ... "
              What kind of war ?! And then it was necessary to fight. It would not be a particularly difficult and costly war, rather a march-throw, with a check of the combat readiness of the regular units of the Russian army. Well, SOP forces. If you fight. And now it's too late to fight. There will be many losses and sorrows.
              1. raw174
                raw174 April 9 2018 06: 37
                +1
                Quote: Benzorez
                And then it was necessary to fight.

                Well now, sit down and think ... Ukraine is an independent state, Russia attacks it for no reason (of course, you could make an excuse yourself, attack the radio center ... is the parallel clear?); In this situation, we do not even take into account the opinion of the world community, what reaction will the Ukrainians have? I’ll tell you, Poroshenko’s rating would be 90%, because he would have been RIGHT IN EVERYTHING! About bloody aggressors and all that. In the Ukrainian military enlistment offices, the line would have mobilized, and NATO would have filled them with weapons. The war would be fierce! It is not necessary to perceive Ukraine as a banana colony, when Poroshenko spoke about the most powerful army in Europe, he was not far from the truth ...
          2. Igor Golov
            Igor Golov April 8 2018 11: 19
            0
            Another liar. No actual dip. There are no relations with Ukraine. By the initiative of Ukraine, by the way.
        2. Grandfather
          Grandfather April 6 2018 06: 32
          +2
          Quote: rotmistr60
          Do you know exactly what measures are being taken? Or do you want diplomats, special services to tell the media about each step?

          No, I don’t know, because they don’t speak. usually with such excesses, followed by statements mid-where?
          Quote: rotmistr60
          But this is not serious at all

          Quote: rotmistr60
          As soon as it was announced the creation of a group to combat Ukrainian piracy and the possibility of blocking fishing opportunities for Ukrainian courts, the judge immediately made a deliberate and correct decision

          iiiiii? "sbu" listened?
          Quote: rotmistr60
          But this is not serious at all

          truth ? at a pressure of 200 to 100 ???
      2. Usher
        Usher April 8 2018 07: 31
        0
        Why are you so stupid, the West is waiting for this to have an excuse.
    3. PalBor
      PalBor April 6 2018 07: 11
      +1
      Yes, the Ukrainian authorities scared their actions to hysteria and tremor. According to reports, few people are leaving for fishing, instead of thousands. They are afraid of revenge.
      Although, who is their own for these authorities?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 6 2018 08: 36
        +2
        Meet, organize, appoint responsible !!!
        As always, they are harnessed for a long time and it is not known who will really answer and whether the CASE will be at all?
        They nod at the border guards, as the most guilty (switchmen, as always), those responsible like Rossrybolovstvo will be ???
        Those. bastards all poh ... HOW ALWAYS, it is not their wealth encroached! To an extremely mess, and we have order ???
    4. sabakina
      sabakina April 6 2018 10: 52
      +6
      Quote: Spartanez300
      In Dill there is no power is not the law, which they confirm ..

      Victor, I'm sorry to teach, but you can’t write like that.
      If the alleged “neither” or “neither” in the sentence (for example, “did not see the moon or the stars”) replaces the union “and” connecting the homogeneous members, then we write “neither”.

      To verify this, let’s analyze two similar examples:
      "Where I just have not been!"
      “Wherever I am, everywhere is good.”

      In your case, "neither power nor law."
  2. Humans war
    Humans war April 6 2018 06: 01
    +4
    The bastards of this unfortunate captain are dragging along, just as the Nazis locked them in this gas chamber and pickle them there until they suffocate with the fish, how to understand this?
    The bastards are filthy.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 6 2018 06: 01
    +4
    Makhnovschina! And not one speaks a mov ... Do not like "sovereign"? And what general - the court released, but the arrest continues?
    In short, close the Sea of ​​Azov from the Ukrop floating evil. Absolutely. wassat
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 6 2018 06: 39
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Makhnovschina! And not one speaks a mov ... Do not like "sovereign"? And what general - the court released, but the arrest continues?

      SBU apparently "turned" the court "...
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In short, close the Sea of ​​Azov from the Ukrop floating evil. Quite

      good
  4. next322
    next322 April 6 2018 06: 03
    +6
    mdya ..... it’s a shame what cowardice, unscrupulousness of the power of the Russian Federation, ordinary citizens of Russia have to answer, some even at the cost of their own lives
  5. saltickov.
    saltickov. April 6 2018 06: 15
    +3
    The Americans would have already entered the sixth fleet and bombed everything to hell, which we are all waiting for any official response policy. No, of course it is not necessary to bomb, but also silently release the brakes that the authorities are completely fucked up. How much you can wipe yourself. So now attacked us with a crowd, then at least one needs to go to the teeth will be very fun. No, try to arrest the American, the scandal of hostilities, we can spread rot. And it also showed how long ago the Spanish fishermen went out to the demonstration, caught fish in their waters either the Italians or the French, so the next day a military squadron came out and dispersed all these little ships. So you have to protect your citizens.
    1. your1970
      your1970 April 6 2018 09: 49
      0
      1)
      Quote: saltickov.
      . And it also means that it was shown a long time ago by a box how the Spanish fishermen went to a demonstration, either the Italians or the French were fishing in their waters, and so the next day a military squadron came out and dispersed all these little ships. So, you have to protect your citizens.

      - this is the problem - “Nord” was fishing in the wrong place, in ALIEN waters. And this is alas a fact.
      2)
      Quote: Herkulesich
      And how long should we endure this farce in silence? We have special forces to send to Kherson so that they not only return the captain of the city to Russia!
      - the probability that the ship is mined at the most I can’t - exclude? CAPTURE exclude our special forces? The probability of waving then in front of the whole world - "The Russians attacked a peaceful city !! They blew up a Ukrainian ship !!! The fact of aggression !! Everything is documented !! And this is not the territory of LDNR - this is Ukraine !!!" exclude completely?
      1. helmi8
        helmi8 April 6 2018 21: 54
        0
        Quote: your1970
        - this is the problem - “Nord” was fishing in the wrong place, in ALIEN waters. And this is, alas, a fact.

        This is NOT a fact. According to international law of the sea, the Sea of ​​Azov is an inland sea and shipping in it is determined by an agreement between the Russian Federation and Ukraine. It is delimited by state. borders (the demarcation of which was not carried out), but does not affect shipping.
        Article 2
        1. Merchant ships and warships, as well as other state ships flying the flag of the Russian Federation or Ukraine, operated for non-commercial purposes, enjoy freedom of navigation in the Sea of ​​Azov and the Kerch Strait.

        Where is here about friend-alien places?
        Well, ours have already announced that all Ukrainian vessels going through the Kerch Strait will be thoroughly inspected and quarantined. I would also include foreign ones going to Ukrainian ports.
      2. Igor Golov
        Igor Golov April 8 2018 11: 22
        0
        NORD fished in neutral waters. When the SPSU received an order from Ochakovo, they decided to conduct a special operation. It’s useless to fight puppets - you have to pinch puppeteers.
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 6 2018 06: 18
    +4
    And how long should we endure this farce in silence? We have special forces to send to Kherson so that they not only return the captain of the city to Russia!
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather April 6 2018 06: 40
      0
      Quote: Herkulesich
      And how long should we endure this farce in silence?

      and which we do not tolerate? that's why they suffered ...
      1. Igor Golov
        Igor Golov April 8 2018 11: 23
        0
        There is one problem and it is very important: it is from us that a military solution is expected. Then Ukraine will have a reason to shout that it is poor and offended.
  7. Esoteric
    Esoteric April 6 2018 06: 23
    +3
    Stop being bothered. It is time to become responsible both for our citizens and for our property. The court, the very one where Russia was fined, should already have a lawsuit ... Watching these political clowns is tired. Begin, finally, to respect yourself ...
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 6 2018 06: 27
      +5
      Quote: Esoteric
      Start finally respect yourself ...

      ... brush (C).
      Quote: Ad in the men's restroom
      Men! Use the brush! Respect Yourself !!
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather April 6 2018 06: 40
        +1
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Men! Use the brush! Respect Yourself !!

        belay Can I have paper? repeat
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 6 2018 07: 11
          +5
          Quote: Dead Day
          Can I have paper?

          No.
          Respect - only a brush.
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather April 6 2018 07: 17
            0
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: Dead Day
            Can I have paper?

            No.
            Respect - only a brush.

            heck...
  8. demo
    demo April 6 2018 07: 08
    +3
    That is, the security services and border guards, in violation of all norms, continued to hold the person when they no longer had the right to do this and brought him to court, in the hope that the judge would choose a preventive measure, but the judge figured out everything (before the main meeting).
    Although I don’t want to talk about this “unfinished”, it is not possible to remain silent.
    All the lawlessness that is happening in Ukraine is trying to put on “legal clothes”.
    The whole insanity of this "action" is the Maidan, from the first second to the present day - a cruel mockery of logic and common sense.
    Pragmatic, to the bone, Americans, contracted Bandera, without conscience and moral foundations, to organize a coup in the country.
    Having completed the first act of a state crime, no one calmed down (not everything was done for this) and the winding up of one crime to another began.
    This is necessary so that people simply stop being afraid of anything.
    "Walk the flaw. Tomorrow will be gone" - a symbol of today.
    To derail the country, without the possibility of changing something later - this is the life-motive of events.
    For what?
    For the sake of the country turning into Banderstat?
    No. In order to then, in the last act, push this semi-brown substance with Russia.
    The plan is chic.
    Only the consequences will be so terrible.
    For all.

    We, Russia, live with pink blindfolds.
    The whole world has long since departed from the rules for applying such a principle as the principle of law in international relations.
    Yugoslavia, Iraq 1, Iraq 2, Libya, Palestine, Syria and many other examples say that the principle of law is replaced by the principle of strong law.
    Honest methods are not and never will be.
    And it is unfortunate that we were unable to adapt our principles to changing conditions.
    And the main complaint against Putin.
    He is trying to play chess with those who prefer to play Chapaya.
    What will this lead and lead to?
    And here's what:

    How to react to this?
    Exactly the same.
    And we will wind the snot on a fist.
    1. your1970
      your1970 April 6 2018 09: 54
      0
      Quote: demo
      And here's what:
      - Do you remember the continuation of the film? Associate Professor came and gave everyone a neck ....
      Alas, the Associate Professor is the USA that can afford to give a neck all - not the 6th fleet, so playing the stock exchange or freezing dollar assets ...
  9. Wilderness
    Wilderness April 6 2018 07: 24
    0
    Of course, this ugliness must be finished, it is clear that the Russian leadership is trying to avoid force (what is expected of it), but sooner or later it will have to be done. If a person sets out to get in the face, sooner or later he will achieve this. The longer you drag, the higher the stakes in this game. At first, some people were abducted, military personnel, now here is the ship. And then what? We must not forget that there are aircraft to which banderlogs have the same complaints. I would not want to hear once about the forced landing of an airplane with passengers.
    A capture group near the fishermen, of course, is already waiting, let's hope that they will be released in other ways.
  10. 72jora72
    72jora72 April 6 2018 09: 13
    0
    Quote: tchoni
    So I am ashamed that Russia does nothing to protect such its citizens.
    All that Russia needs to do. And by the way, the captain has already been released right from the courtroom ......
    1. Antares
      Antares April 6 2018 10: 29
      +2
      Quote: 72jora72
      All that Russia needs to do. And by the way, the captain has already been released right from the courtroom ......

      Well, not the Russian Federation, but a Ukrainian lawyer. The line of defense is based solely on Ukrainian law.
      Here, in general, few people understand what is happening. And most importantly, calling Ukraine somehow Somalia forgets that the Ukrainian lawyer in the Ukrainian court quite calmly obtained recognition of the fact that the court cannot keep the team holding Ukrainian passports (although they became Russians, but Ukraine did not eliminate their citizenship and clearly considers them their citizens) although they violated the order of entry - exit (which does not have an application about the sea and therefore does not affect the crew). Playing on obvious contradictions Russians / Ukrainians, there is no existing order in the maritime space - the lawyer did not leave any chances for the court except for the administrator (there will be a fine) for the crew.
      After the investigation and trial of the crew of the Nord vessel from the occupied Crimea, which was detained by Ukrainian border guards in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov with the Russian flag, they will most likely be released to their families in Kerch.
      This was told by the head of the department of supervision of criminal proceedings of the Prosecutor's Office of the ARC Igor Ponochovny in an interview with "Crimea. Realities."

      He noted that Ukraine clearly considers the crew members to be Ukrainians, and Russian passports were issued to them illegally.
      According to the prosecutor, a criminal investigation will be conducted before two criminal proceedings - regarding the captain of the ship who illegally crossed the border with the temporarily occupied territory and the fact of illegal fishing. (The captain will answer here, because the crew is “Ukrainians” and can catch, trouble only with documents, they are Russian and invalid)
      "The specified vessel, despite the fact that it is illegally registered in the Russian ship register, illegally set the Russian flag aboard and received permission to fish in Rostov (Russian Rostov-on-Don), conducted fishing in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov on Ukrainian territory, "said Ponochovny.

      It will be necessary to look at the appendix to the agreement on fishing (because there is a division into fishing zones, and if they are not there, then the lawyer will easily prove that there is no violation, again referring to Ukrainian citizenship)
      In general, all the arguments to stick a lawyer's policy are always good chances about the position of Ukraine (our Crimea) and that means the charges are groundless.
      In general, in the Ukrainian court it is clear why the partnership games in terrorism / separatism get shorter time than in the Russian Federation.
      So far, the court released the captain before the main trial (that is, he will still be on trial, but will be "free" for a couple of days)
      Earlier on Thursday, a meeting to elect a preventive measure against V. Gorbenko did not take place, according to the prosecutor’s office, because of the judge’s tight schedule, according to lawyers, because the captain was not brought to the court for some unknown reason. The meeting was rescheduled for April 6,
      He is charged with Art.332-1 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (“violation of the procedure of entry / exit to the occupied territory of Ukraine with the aim of harming the interests of the country”, is punishable by restriction of liberty for a term of up to three years or imprisonment for the same term), to the rest of the crew - .2 Art. 204 of the Administrative Code of Ukraine (“illegal border crossing”, sanction - a fine from one hundred to three hundred tax-free minimum incomes of citizens or up to 15 days of administrative arrest).
      From the news today, the crew insists that they won’t leave without a captain. And today the group of 15 people tried to recapture the captain from the security forces.
      But, unequivocally Ukraine will be more cheerful than the Russian Federation. He would have been sentenced in a “tense and spiritual” Russian Federation (in a similar situation) and no Russian lawyer would have dismissed him and everyone would have been as strict as possible for the sentence.
      And in “fascist” Ukraine, lawyers work better and “Maidan” courts cannot just “condemn the aggressor”
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 6 2018 12: 17
        +1
        You are "our" most "honest" bar-rr ... do not touch the court. We do not touch and do not advise you! And then it will accept, the one that is legislative, still whatever the crap and retroactively let you down under it !!!
        The court condemns the one who is "supposed", i.e. on whom it is laid by all, by power in the first place. And who is not supposed to, the authorities noted, do not judge at all!
  11. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 April 6 2018 10: 22
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    Quote: Volodin
    Quote: dik-nsk
    but what kind of captain is you - playing the sour young lady

    It's a shame to talk about this man. If this captain, as you say, "played the sour young lady," he would have passed the Russian passport on the first day and would have pereobulsya in the "Ukrainian" together with the whole team. But people stand their ground: "We are citizens of Russia!"

    One should not forget that he is not the captain (commander) of the missile cruiser, but the captain of a fishing vessel - health is what it is ...

    Gentlemen, calm down, the young lady KISEYNAYA, from the words of Kisei, not Kissel ... Already argue like that in the right way !!! Ah, how easy it is for you: "on the first day he would have handed over a Russian passport and changed his shoes into a" Ukrainian "along with the whole team ...". In this case, what would he get from the 404th? It’s not the British who slowed it down, but the dill ... Well, he would have become a Svidomo, and then what? What is Judah’s gesheft? In my opinion, he would have had even more problems, so this is not the case when they sell their homeland!
  12. gukoyan
    gukoyan April 6 2018 10: 49
    0
    Well, what can I say ... The prosecutor's office to help ...
  13. Radikal
    Radikal April 6 2018 17: 25
    0
    Quote: raw174
    Quote: Dead Day
    ours, too, do not get killed in the efforts to free the captain and crew. Are they waiting for the captain to die? then, yes, there will be reasons to express concern and regret.

    Do you propose to raise the BSF on alarm? On a provocation (and this is a provocation), you need to respond with a cold head. Haste is needed when catching fleas and chasing someone else's wife, but here you need to act carefully and accurately.

    You probably have a lot of experience ... lol wassat
  14. Radikal
    Radikal April 6 2018 17: 32
    +1
    In connection with this pirate action, I noticed that on a talk show on the central channels every day this topic is carefully avoided. They say about anything: they creaked, Syria, creaked again, some other topics, but about the pirate actions of dill - as if they had taken water in their mouths! Why would this be, what are the opinions on this subject? wassat
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 6 2018 19: 12
      +2
      Now there is a talk show, they are talking about dill "pirates"!
  15. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter April 6 2018 20: 20
    +2
    Hmm. Squeaked-Skripalami. I personally do not care about them. But the fact that our Crimean comrades have been hired along with a steamboat is what bothers me. But I talked about it a hundred times. And the main thing is that no one can do anything. Because Crimea has become a gray zone. And it will be so until then, as long as the Russian Federation does not resolve something with Ukraine. More precisely, while Ukraine does not give up claims to the peninsula. The reputation of the Russian Federation suffers from all these inconsiderations, the main thing is many sorrows among the local population, and this is disheartening. Since such a situation will seem to continue indefinitely. Half of them have close relatives to whom something happened and you won’t be able to leave. In general, we live happily, although the rain outside the window ...
  16. Radikal
    Radikal April 6 2018 21: 38
    +1
    Quote: rocket757
    Now there is a talk show, they are talking about dill "pirates"!

    Yes, I also saw how they say it - less than a year has passed .... laughing
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 6 2018 21: 52
      +2
      For ours, it’s understandable, there is at least some, if not positive, not an outright failure so far.
      In principle, people can probably be redeemed if the dill bit is not bitten ... and they can.
    2. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter April 6 2018 22: 14
      +1
      All this is funny guys, until you personally touch. Then immediately it will be no laughing matter. People are sitting, tormented, all do not care. Loose change, a line in the news ... Lawyers ... What the hell are lawyers ?! This once again confirms that the Russian Federation has no legal reason to own Crimea. And something needs to be done, however. It cannot go on for so long.
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter April 6 2018 22: 43
        +1
        As a matter of fact, if I omit all the lyrics, the following interests me: when will the crew consisting of citizens of the Russian Federation be at home? What year? Or citizens of the Russian Federation-consumables-women still give birth.
  17. Radikal
    Radikal April 6 2018 22: 06
    +1
    Quote: rocket757
    For ours, it’s understandable, there is at least some, if not positive, not an outright failure so far.
    In principle, people can probably be redeemed if the dill bit is not bitten ... and they can.

    If the state is engaged in piracy, then there is no need to pay the ransom, but act in accordance with international rules for such cases .... sad
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 6 2018 22: 11
      +4
      Quote: Radikal
      act in accordance with international rules for such cases ...

      According to "international rules", the Sumerians are just right in this.
      This is clear to everyone (well, maybe, except for extreme ... radio channels wink ), therefore, no one makes very sharp movements.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 April 6 2018 22: 57
      +3
      At first, on emotions, I also wanted to tear and throw!
      Judiciously, you understand that our fat belts are not ready for a direct conflict, because they have something to lose over the hill!
      It remains only to watch and watch ... and save evil on your goats ... first of all!
  18. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter April 7 2018 19: 24
    +1
    ... and silence in the compartments. Where are our experts? Where are people with higher education? What will be the recommendations?! ..
    Here is such a squiggle. To learn the theory is all great, in practice, all crap. Syria, it’s more important than any Kerch men there ..
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 7 2018 19: 35
      +4
      Quote: Benzorez
      Syria, it’s more important than any Kerch men there ..

      And what doesn’t suit you? Yes, Syria is more important.
      Quote: Benzorez
      in practice, all crap

      Who, sorry? The crew is released, it’s the captain’s turn ... why yell?
      I do not understand request