T-90M “Breakthrough-3” will go to the troops this year. Climate controlled

This year, the Russian military will receive for the first time Tanks with climate control, they will be equipped with the latest modification of the T-90M Breakthrough-3 tank, Uralvagonzavod said.

The newest Russian tank T-90M for the first time in stories Soviet and Russian tank building will receive an air-conditioning installation. It is included in the mandatory complete set of combat vehicles, the delivery of which is scheduled for this year.

- said in a statement the press service.

We are talking about the KTE-VT product - a thermoelectric air conditioner operating not on freon, as usual automobile or household appliances, but built on the Peltier effect. This is a thermoelectric phenomenon, which consists in the fact that during the passage of electric current through the junction of two different semiconductors, one of them heats up and the other cools.

The absence of freon allows the thermoelectric air conditioner to operate at both high and low temperatures. In addition, the T-90M has an additional diesel generator, which provides uninterrupted supply of electricity to the tank in the parking lot.

The cooling units of the air conditioner can be switched on and off autonomously.

Comments

[Vitaly Anisimov]

So soon they will be transported to Syria .. They will come in handy there soon!

[cariperpaint]

for what? Enough nonsense to write already

[Sands Careers General]

In Syria, it’s basically basically the running-in of Russian equipment.
So that’s enough for you nonsense to write.

[cariperpaint]

who does she run around there? Are our tank crews running around there? Or do you want to give new models to the Syrians? they are given what we have in storage. they will not be given a new one because it is stupidity. they run in there ... you don’t understand the meaning of such actions what the hell to write ...

[Sands Careers General]

Major, stop daring the senior in rank, have you forgotten about subordination?

In general, if you do not know, or are not in the know, then be silent. Syria is a huge training ground for Russia, and it’s foolish to deny it.
Yes, and we also had the latest technology, but there is nothing about it.

[Ryazan87]

This is Meehan)

[Herculesic]

Vitaly, you’ll get there earlier on the couch, if you’ll hit the road right now! We write your notes out of the way, and on the spot the main thing is to hit the keyboard harder! !!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Herkulesich

Vitaly, you’ll get there earlier on the couch, if you’ll hit the road right now! We write your notes out of the way, and on the spot the main thing is to hit the keyboard harder! !!

So quiet, what kind of noise in the cell .. In Syria, they will definitely be rolled in first, I promise you that for sure ..! I am very happy for the tankers, and finally they remembered the poor .. At least they will breathe easier!

[cariperpaint]

that will never be from the word. then I promise you too.

[Leeds]

MIKHAN is the whole world

[figwam]

Well, what can I say, they began to take care of a man, and this is commendable, well done.

[Hire]

Yeah. Now tankers will constantly sniff their noses.

[210ox]

Vitaliy, such tanks are needed here .. In the North Caucasus, Rostov Region, etc. Yes, and this condo also works for heating. So everywhere it comes in handy. I'm more interested in something else. Is there a KAZ on it?

Quote: MIKHAN

So soon they will be transported to Syria .. They will come in handy there soon!

[cariperpaint]

you can’t hang it on all tanks anyway. there is no printing press.

[Yak28]

A couple of hundred T-62s are more useful in Syria

[Maz]

It can’t be that they finally installed the air conditioner! not a century has passed

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Maz

It can’t be that they finally installed the air conditioner! not a century has passed

Do not be malicious ...))) But our tankers never relaxed and the wicked were breathing in gas of steam .. Only forward, then thunder the enemy and breathe

[NEXUS]

Quote: MIKHAN

So soon they will be transported to Syria .. They will come in handy there soon!

In Syria, technologies are being tested on versions of older tanks from T-54 to T-72 ... why drive the Breakthrough or Armata there so that the technologies get to the majahideen, and therefore to the mattresses? T-72 does very well with all the tasks in Syria. And there, on the spot, they improve it, so that later, which will show itself well, it can be used in the T-90.
For example, look at the grid under the tower at the Breakthrough ... but Syria, and the T-72 ..

This is a simple example ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: NEXUS

Why drive the Breakthrough or Armata there so that technologies get to the majahideen, and therefore to the mattresses?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel that the main battle Russia will have to accept is in Syria and the BV .. Everything goes to this! And without the latest tanks there, we can’t do it and do not sit out in Russia (maybe it will blow ..) Time will judge us NEXUS. If I live.

[Vadim237]

"And here is Syria, and T-72." Unfortunately from the ATGM with a tandem warhead, this kit does not protect.

[kupitman]

the nineties delivered there, like 90A

[Herculesic]

There will be a maximum of 40 new cars in two years, and pomp, as if 1000 tanks will be assembled from scratch!

[Dam]

And fig you 1000 tanks? With whom to fight with such an armored fist gathered, Tukhachevsky you ours.

[Herculesic]

Damm - with those who dare to come to us with weapons! And 1000 new T90Ms are more real today than 500 T14 even after five years! Voroshilov you are ours! !!

[Dam]

Nu nu 25 deploy new tank battalions? And the budget will not crack? As if in the army, besides tanks, some other little things are needed

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Tanks are needed not only for breaking through the enemy’s front, but also for eliminating the enemy who has broken through our front, by means of counterattack on the flanks of the breaking group and surrounding it for subsequent destruction, that is, the tank is needed in defense like air and you can’t replace it with anything ...

And given the size of our country, the length of the border and our neighbors, we have a defense against anyone and tanks for this we need no less than what was during the Second World War, that is, 20 at least ready-made, in storage and in service ...

[voyaka uh]

In 1941, the Red Army had 27,000 tanks. More than in all countries of the world
put together. Helped a lot?

[Town Hall]

In the 91st, by the way, there were also more tanks than in all countries of the world combined. It also did not help

[Roma 1977]

It helped a lot. Judging by the inscriptions on the Reichstag.

[NKT]

We have most of the territory unsuitable for the use of tanks

[Roma 1977]

I will say more: most of the territory of Russia is generally unsuitable not only for tanks, but for life in general. The area of ​​polar deer pastures is larger than the area of ​​sowing.

[Hammerlock]

Well, yes, you better know

[cariperpaint]

This option also needs to be run. it’s not so fast either. and where is the pump? regular news.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Herkulesich

There will be a maximum of 40 new cars in two years, and pomp, as if 1000 tanks will be assembled from scratch!

And why more?

350 units of T-90 and T-90A in combat units (and about 200 more T-90 units are in storage), as of 2017

That is, there are about 500 T-90 different modifications. Along with the release of the Breakthrough, these tanks will be brought to the level of T-90M.
And there is also the T-72B3, which is not much inferior to the 90th. And there is already a conversation about the modification of the T-72B4. And we have 72-ek ..

Ground forces - 1100 T-72B and T-72BA, 800 T-72B3, and 7000 T-72, T-72A and T-72B in storage, as of 2017
Coastal troops - 50 T-72B and 200 T-72B3, as of 2017

The data on the number of T-72s in the troops diverge very much ... I came across figures of the order of 5500 pieces, only 72 ek ...
And the question is, why are we now 1000 T-90M? To salt them? And on the way is Armata. And in addition to the armored forces, there is also a Strategic Missile Forces, fleet, VKS and so on ... or did we have a printing press, like mattresses?

[Magic archer]

Well, at least some progress in creating comfort. You look in a hundred years and reach the level of western tanks

[MoJloT]

What is wrong with him? Leather interior is perhaps not enough alloy wheels.

[K.A.S.]

Quote: MoJloT

What is wrong with him? Leather interior is perhaps not enough alloy wheels.

Casting is already there! And eco-leather interior!
Judging by myself! I can refuse a lot of things in the car from the electric / glass mirrors of heating the glass from the heating pad from the ABC and other things, but air conditioning is just the right thing! By car in the heat of stuffiness! and in the tank and other armor as in the oven!
It’s interesting, but can you install it in other workshops in other tanks?

[Golovan Jack]

Have you ever been in a tank? Faux leather ...
The only benefit - maybe wean (some) to ride with open hatches ... and that's it

[Tersky]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Have you ever been in a tank?

The question is not formulated correctly. In such cases, it should sound something like this: - "When will you get out of the tank?" Novel, !

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Tersky

In such cases, it should sound something like this: - "When will you get out of the tank?"

Well, yes ... for those who are in the tank constantly ... for life, I would even say - then only
Victor

[family tree]

Quote: K.A.S.

but air conditioning is just the right thing!

Threw it, nafig! Put the preheater and the second stove. And what for he to me, if from October to May winter, and then spring and autumn. No, summer also happens, but I'm on that day, like at work all the time

[Tersky]

Quote: perepilka

Threw it, nafig!

If I had done the same, (taking into account our temperature reaching in the sun + 58 known Celsius), the next day at noon they pulled out my well-done carcass from the car.

Quote: perepilka

And what for he to me, if from October to May winter, and then spring and autumn.

? Ie summer you just abolished ... Indeed, what for it is to you if the air conditioners have thrown out .. Hi migratory

[family tree]

Quote: Tersky

Indeed, what for it is to you, if the air conditioners have thrown out .. Hello migratory,

Well, yes, it’s still hot in summer, warm vodka and sweatshops are sweating

[Grigory_45]

Quote: perepilka

but I'm on that day, like at work all the time

well, when the workplace is not in the tank, but under the office kondeem. Of course, what more could you ask for? In the tank, even in the middle lane, not in the hot summers - that’s still nonsense, not to mention the south. There is little space, and heats everything that can warm. Air conditioning in BTVT has long been not a luxury, but an urgent need. But Moscow oblast loves to save money, and the units themselves ... these are actually units - judging by the size, the seditious thought creeps in that it can easily cool a nuclear reactor)

[family tree]

Quote: Gregory_45

it’s good when the workplace is not in the tank, but under the office condo

In nomax, on the stage, on the support 10kv

[family tree]

Quote: perepilka

In nomax, on

And I'm not against the kondeya in the tank, and yet not against the anatomical saddle, at least at the driver’s arm, because the lower back really aches, not looking at the padded pea jacket

[Magic archer]

And what does the leather interior and molding have to do with it ?! At least the ergonomics have been improved. The place itself for the crew member has been regularly installed the same microwave and kettle. Look at the approach to this in Israel! I’m silent about the Yuarovtsev who carried the bathtub attached to the tower .It’s easy to improve your stay in the car.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Magic Archer

The place itself for the crew member, regularly installed the same microwave and kettle

coffee maker, bar, whirlpool and free access to the VK. Lepota. Not a tank, but straight ... a caterpillar limousine. The cannon can be thrown out, it is better to have a big monique and exit to WOT. Tankers ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Magic Archer

Well, at least some progress in creating comfort. You look in a hundred years and reach the level of western tanks

In terms of quality, unpretentiousness and reliability, this Western tank is about 100 years old to evolve to our vehicles.
And with regards to comfort ... so in a tank they don’t arrange discos, but they fight ... or do you need a toilet with a bar? So take a look at the same Merkava with the toilet ... do we need such a barn, which in construction and design was sharpened specifically for Israel with that climate and with those threats?

[voyaka uh]

The Arabs, after several hours of battle in Soviet tanks during the heat, were like boiled fish. They could neither move meaningfully nor shoot accurately.

[NEXUS]

Quote: voyaka uh

The Arabs, after several hours of battle in Soviet tanks during the heat, were like boiled fish. They could neither move meaningfully nor shoot accurately.

And what? And what will the Jews be like when crossing Merkava across the river, without crossing, that is, under its own power along the bottom?
Or, how soon will the Jews push their tank into the autumn thaw on the road through the forest?

[Maksus]

Have you been to Israel? There, with rivers and the thaw, deficit-c) Merkava was created for these conditions, so no one buys it.

[Magic archer]

And I’m watching here the sons of Petrosyan have gathered! They would have shoved a couple of days out of the tank for a couple of days, I would have looked as if it was funny! I remember I was 15, I visited my grandparents in the Chita region. And my cousin worked for tank repair plant. And I crawled enough on the BMP and tanks. The heat was thirty, the armor was hot, in the tank as in the oven. At least the BMPs opened the rear doors, and the tank with open hatches Nifiga did not cool down. Now let's imagine the combat situation. Hatches are closed You can safely get a heat stroke or dehydration! Well how?! Funny, comedians are shitty ?! And in the winter?! In severe frosts?! Who's crazy about the coffee maker ?!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Maksus

Have you been to Israel? There, with rivers and the thaw, deficit-c) Merkava was created for these conditions, so no one buys it.

And I'm not talking about that? Merkava was created only for Israel, taking into account that climate, tactics of application, and landscape ...
And our tanks are much more universal and for this reason they are the most warring. They are able to fight in the desert, and in the European theater of war, where everything is rugged by rivers, and in the city ...

[Maksus]

So why then compare them? You will not seriously compare the SVD and any long-range rifle Lobaev?
So here - Merkava is an excellent tank, for those conditions in which it was created, but only for them. Our tanks are a universal weapon for any type of terrain, climate, and crew training level (with some modifications).
The comrade correctly wrote that a lot of tanks went to the Jews whole and refueled due to the fact that the crews stupidly escaped.

[Grigory_45]

We are talking about the KTE-VT product - a thermoelectric air conditioner that does not work on freon, like conventional automotive or household appliances, but is built on the Peltier effect

here we have it all in one place. Condey at Peltier is inferior in performance and power to the usual one, not to mention the fact that it eats electricity, and also requires an efficient radiator to remove heat. Yokarny Babai, why do we invent the wheel every time and strive to make it oval or square all the time?

[Antidote]

Freon then works on the holy spirit and simply immensely absorbs heat in itself. This is common knowledge.

[Grigory_45]

then all over the world they use Peltier air conditioners, you won’t find the usual freon air in the afternoon with fire.

[Antidote]

No one argues that they are less effective, but there are pluses, which, apparently, overpowered. Although they delivered the APU, it’s already well, less than 50 years have passed.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Antidote

No one argues that they are less effective.

you argue. I do not have a habit with myself aloud.

Quote: Antidote

but there are pluses, which, apparently, overpowered

they don’t have any pluses at any decent power (and not to cool the bottle) the efficiency is about nothing, because no one puts them on mobile equipment.

Quote: Antidote

APU delivered, already well, less than 50 years have passed.

it was not about the APU. Her need for questions does not cause anyone. Although here we can not live without kookies. DZA long ago completed, but, on an incomprehensible someone’s notion, gasoline for diesel equipment.
Before resenting, it would be nice to sort out the issue. And then you can come to the idea of ​​fastening solar panels instead of a regular generator - they are in front of it, too, like some advantages)

[Laksamana besar]

Well, yes, in the cabs of locomotives (pictured) KTE is put, but can’t it be in the tank?

KTE thermoelectric conditioner is designed for ventilation, cooling, heating and air purification from dust in the cabs of locomotive drivers and any other vehicles with a cab volume of up to 12m3.
Principle of operation:
The cooling unit uses a system of thermoelectric modules TEM, when a constant voltage is applied to it, heat energy is transferred from one side of the unit to the other. The liquid circuit on the hot side of the unit provides efficient heat dissipation. Coolant circulation is provided by an electric pump. A hot-flow liquid heat exchanger with a high finning area gives off heat to the environment, and heat dissipation is improved by high-performance fans. The second (air) circuit provides cooling air inside the cab. Switching the operating mode from “cooling” to “heating” is provided by changing the polarity of the power supply of the thermoelectric unit.
The overall dimensions, circuit design and design of the air conditioning units can be adapted to various types of cabs.
The main advantages of CHP:
- Ecological cleanliness,
- High reliability
- Ability to work both in cooling mode and in air heating mode.

[Laksamana besar]

Old drawing ::

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Laksamana Besar

Well, yes, in the cabs of locomotives (pictured) KTE is put, but can’t it be in the tank?

Before you write a lot and argue about nothing, you should be enlightened about the shortcomings of CHP, and you will understand why they are not widespread. What is your car worth? Why?
The indefatigable desire of some individuals to argue for any reason has always been striking; all right, we would have understood the subject of the dispute. If you do not understand or have lost the thread of discussion, I’ll remind you: I think that for installation on mobile equipment (including tanks), the most advantageous option in terms of parameters today is freon. And certainly not on the Peltier elements. And I do not need to tell how it works and that it also has its own niche - I know this without your help. And they tried to give it to us - we very quickly refused such an option. Prove the opposite - that for a tank this is the best direct option, everything in the world of Lohi. we are good fellows alone - you still can’t, so what is the talk about?

[voyaka uh]

Right. Peltier is used only in electronics, when there is no place to stick a conventional air conditioner

[Blue fox]

WTF! I feel "in which case" all the blacks-loaders from the "Abrams" to our side will start to run across!
Well then - AZ plus climate control!

[Xroft]

really a breakthrough for our tankers .... but 40 tanks is certainly modest. And we are still waiting for 1000 units of equipment promised on the basis of Almaty ....

[Serzh_R]

built on the Peltier effect. This is a thermoelectric phenomenon, which consists in the fact that when an electric current passes through a junction of two different semiconductors, one of them heats up and the other cools.

With winter / summer mode due to rotation by 180 degrees

[Denis Obukhov]

Condey two zone though?
Let them put the coffee machine in general, there will be credit.

[Genry]

Roast, coffee grinder, barrel with a coffee tree ....

[family tree]

I’m okay with my grandfather so that I don’t invent different rollers from my jacket

[Oml]

And the Americans should equip a dry closet, they need it for many reasons.

[lance]

I do not understand you gentlemen, someone was sitting in the T-72 and T-64 in Abkhazia when on the street + 45C °. when you open the hatches below and above hoping at least for some sort of air draft? in a tank in the sun + 55 ° C. and Syria? finally, the time has come when a mechanic who is stupefied from the heat will not drive a tank.

[voyaka uh]

What happened in the Arab-Israeli wars. The Arabs crawled out of the Soviet tanks half dead, on the verge of heat stroke and went to surrender. If only they were doused with water to cool.

[san4es]

T-90M "Breakthrough-3" will go to the troops this year .

[Denis Obukhov]

Only in elite units.

[san4es]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

Only in elite units.

... And the champions of Tank Biathlon - T-14

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And the winter package will be, heated seats and everything else ?! )))

[kupitman]

heated levers or whatever they put

[kunstkammer]

Quote: voyaka uh

In 1941, the Red Army had 27,000 tanks

Readiness of the Red Army for hostilities: a maximum of 60-80% of tanks left the boxes on alert. Still on the road 10-20% of tanks broke. Due to the lack of fuel reserves (strategic reserves, for all Western armored vehicles, were thousands of kilometers away), the last tanks had to be abandoned.
And what else could ... argue that Stalin was planning to attack Germany in the summer of 41?
Yes, Hitler had fewer tanks ... but all the battles were ready, with experienced and fired crews.
There is a difference?

[Town Hall]

And who prevented Comrade Stalin from having smaller tanks, but with trained crews, spare parts, rombats, tractors and fuel? .... what genius spread gigantomania from uncontrollable hordes of bad broken tanks, with hastily trained crews ... who is so pointless was spending nowhere ... who is this villain?

[teron]

It is believed that Soviet industry served the wishes of the military, as far as possible. The same Stalin and the government of the USSR relied in such matters on the opinion of the military. You just need to go a little deeper into the topic - find out, for example, with whose supply before the war the tank brigades of the Red Army were converted into mechanized corps. Yes, even in such quantities.

[kunstkammer]

Quote: Town Hall

And who prevented Comrade Stalin from having smaller tanks, but with trained crews, spare parts, rombats, tractors and fuel? .... what genius spread gigantomania from uncontrollable hordes of bad broken tanks, with hastily trained crews ... who is so pointless was spending nowhere ... who is this villain?

actually the "hordes of tanks" are the ideas of Tukhachevsky.
After many amazing pre-war facts (the catastrophic defeat of France and the British expeditionary forces, the hard victory of the Red Army in a Finnish company, etc.), Stalin was well aware that the USSR was not ready for war.
The best army in Europe lost to Hitler within a month! And this is “with trained crews, spare parts, rimbats, tractors and fuel” and fully mobilized. There is something to become discouraged ... This is a shock for everyone.
In addition, the last KShU showed clearly - the Germans will occupy Minsk in 2 weeks. And "repression" or "hatred" has nothing to do with it. With our "effective managers" of 1941, the result would be the same. Tukhachevsky would act in the same way as Pavlov — that is, in no way.
What would you do in such a situation?
Yes, what Stalin did:
1. Maximize the start of the war.
Try to calm Hitler as much as possible - not to give even a minimal reason. Stalin was well aware that the army could not stand the first strike. But that she would run so far and fast - it was also amazing for him.
2. Create an anti-Hitler coalition.
Given that the United States took the position of helping someone who was attacked, it was likely that they could side with Hitler. That would be a disaster! Stalin escaped this.
England sat and trembled in the last convulsions. The Ambassador of America to England, Kennedy, reported that the British were already on their last legs. She was of little use (as always, however).
In addition, it was necessary to secure the Far East from the Japanese. According to the idea, the best option was to send the Japanese war machine to the south. What has also been done.
3. Total war.
Knowing the psychology of the people (And what for us?), Stalin understood that only if a wave of people rose would it be possible to win the war against Hitler. So far, only the Red Army up to 42 years has fought against the Wehrmacht and the result was corresponding.
As soon as the war became popular, the most perfect army cannot stand against it. This is still relevant.

So who "who is this villain?
Stalin did what it was practically impossible to do ... But he did it!

[Town Hall]

Well, you wrote garbage). I asked about the tanks and you told me the sermon of an ardent Stalinist.

[Wolka]

very good, now I would like to see the T-90 in the tank biathlon ...

[kunstkammer]

Quote: Town Hall

I asked about tanks

You did not ask "about tanks" ... You asked:

And who interfered with Comrade Stalin ...? ... what genius spread gigantomania ... who spent the people's money ... who is this villain?

I answered you for Comrade. Stalin and that villain!
By the way, after the Spanish War and the events that followed it, it became clear that the great managers of that time were simple, mediocre and miserable figures .. Modern Serdyukovs, Chubais and Naibulins with Sins!
And most of them were removed. But not all. And time was lost.
Note - new and effective tanks began to enter the army only after cleansing the "hero pests." Coincidence? I don’t think so. But the T-34 tank went into series only after Stalin's personal order. This tank did not even want to show him the last of Tukhachevsky and Yakir.
So much for Stalin and those villains ...
And for the Rembats, one can say: where in the peasant country from the plow will you find at the same time as many specialists - engineers, repairmen, technicians, and simple mechanics. The new plants lacked competent specialists, and then thousands more tanks had to be serviced! Therefore, they began to create a regular draft army so late. There were no people.
As Comrade said Stalin: I have no other writers for you.

[kunstkammer]

Quote: Town Hall

And who prevented Comrade Stalin from having smaller tanks, but with trained crews, spare parts, rombats, tractors and fuel? .... what genius spread gigantomania from uncontrollable hordes of bad broken tanks, with hastily trained crews ... who is so pointless was spending nowhere ... who is this villain?

Look and listen, maybe then understand what happened before the war