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Karabakh: mine, laid under the "Syrian trio"

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Experts of the US Army Command in Europe (USAREUR) held a seminar in Baku on the theme “The process of making military decisions during peacekeeping operations”.


Karabakh: mine, laid under the "Syrian trio"


According to the Azerbaijani agency APA, with reference to the website of the Republic’s Defense Ministry, during the event, experts (instructors) USAREUR presented briefings on a number of combat missions, in the context of peacekeeping operations.

It is clear that the seminar, which ended on April 5, was held for Azerbaijani soldiers, for whom “peacemaking” is perceived rather peculiarly - as the seizure of Karabakh.

The Georgian military, who, in addition to the Americans, were trained by Israeli experts in this matter, understood the same way.

Recall that the Georgian armed forces prepared for an attack on South Ossetia and on the Russian peacekeeping contingent about Israeli military advisers 1000. They were sent there with the sanction of the Israeli government by two private military firms: General Israel SS "General Israel Ziva" and "Differential Shield" by General Galya Hirsch, one of the developers of Israeli aggression against Lebanon in 2006. The firm of the former Israeli minister Roni Milo also actively worked in Georgia.

According to some data, the development of the operation “Clean Field”, involving the seizure of the RSO, ethnic cleansing and squeezing of the non-Georgian population into the territory of Russia, was carried out under the leadership of Galya Hirsch and other Israeli military experts.

By the way, today, Israeli specialists actively cooperate with Baku, arming and training the armed forces of Azerbaijan.

You can, of course, remember that business is business, but the interests of the United States and Israel in this matter are not confined exclusively to the commercial side of the matter.

Recall that one of the main problems of Washington and Tel Aviv is the "Syrian trio" - the union, albeit situational, of Moscow, Ankara and Tehran.



Of course, our countries are neither allies nor friends in the political sense of the word. But what is happening, both in the Middle East and at the global level, makes our countries work closely together and solve many problems together.

We can add to this the close economic ties that are developing and strengthening between Russia, Iran and Turkey, suggesting that, despite the different views and interests of our countries, these contacts are generally successful and effective.

This cooperation is of great concern and concern for Washington and Tel Aviv, since they are a direct and almost main threat to the implementation of their plans to redraw the existing borders and build a Greater Middle East.

The main pain point of the Moscow-Teheran-Ankara axis is Karabakh.

Even in a frozen state, the conflict in Transcaucasia is not only a threat to the stability of the region, but also a time bomb laid under the developing cooperation of Russia, Iran and Turkey on the other.

Recall that Russia patronizes Armenia, with which allied relations are connected within the CSTO, and Turkey is an ally of Azerbaijan, and the conflict in the NKR in the event of its aggravation will inevitably cause at least complications between Moscow and Ankara. In addition, Iran, although not an official ally of Armenia, also fully supports this country.



That is, in the event of “thawing” of the war in Karabakh, our countries will be drawn into this conflict, and the threat to the positions of the United States and Israel in the Middle East will be to a certain extent neutralized.

That is why both of these countries are extremely interested in intensifying the conflict in Karabakh and are trying, including using their agents of influence in Baku and Yerevan, to provoke yet another aggravation.

However, Ilham Aliyev, whose father ended the war in Karabakh, begun by his predecessors, is known as a sensible and pragmatic politician. Without a doubt, he is perfectly aware of all the risks that the resumption of war carries for Azerbaijan and for him personally.

Therefore, it is likely that he uses these “seminars”, military-technical cooperation with the United States and Israel, primarily as an asset for bargaining, not only with Russia and Iran, but also with Turkey, which recently Washington and Tel -Aviv in their opponents.
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  1. Vard
    Vard April 6 2018 06: 11
    +5
    Alas, staying in world politics is not about the current state of affairs ... They will ruin people ... Resources ... But to continue to eat a cactus ...
    1. Safevi
      Safevi April 6 2018 10: 32
      +12
      I did not understand what the article was about? Karabakh belongs to us under ANY law, and ALL states of the world recognize it for us. Sooner or later, the war will be, it is inevitable, and to drag someone here is from the evil one. America region is uninteresting. Turkey was, is and will be for us in any situation. Moscow is trying to maintain the status quo, because through the conflict it holds both states for Faberge, but this does not mean that Russia will fight for this piece of land with anyone. The alignment may change, and one day in Russia they will understand that it is better to be friends with Azerbaijan than to have it in enemies because of Armenians living in a completely different country. Moreover, the maintenance of Armenia itself costs the Russian treasury quite expensive (free weapons, almost free loans, the rotation of which is not expected, etc.)
      1. mgero
        mgero April 6 2018 11: 10
        +5
        Kogda pojmesh o chem statja togda i komentiruj! Esli ne ponimaesh che togda pishesh? Mnogouvajaemi?
        1. Alber
          Alber April 6 2018 20: 38
          +4
          Quote: mgero
          Kogda pojmesh o chem statja togda i komentiruj! Esli ne ponimaesh che togda pishesh? Mnogouvajaemi?

          And why are you writing in a hostile font on a Russian resource?
      2. andj61
        andj61 April 6 2018 11: 12
        +7
        Quote: sefevi
        I did not understand what the article was about? Karabakh belongs to us under ANY law, and ALL states of the world recognize it for us. Sooner or later, the war will be, it is inevitable, and to drag someone here is from the evil one. America region is uninteresting. Turkey was, is and will be for us in any situation. Moscow is trying to maintain the status quo, because through the conflict it holds both states for Faberge, but this does not mean that Russia will fight for this piece of land with anyone. The alignment may change, and one day in Russia they will understand that it is better to be friends with Azerbaijan than to have it in enemies because of Armenians living in a completely different country. Moreover, the maintenance of Armenia itself costs the Russian treasury quite expensive (free weapons, almost free loans, the rotation of which is not expected, etc.)

        The question is different. If Azerbaijan tries to return Karabakh by force, both sides will wash themselves with blood. Russia will not fight for Karabakh, but whether Azerbaijan can defeat in such a situation is a big question. But Russia will intervene in the event of an attack on the territory of Armenia - everyone also understands this. And is this territory worth much blood at all? Heydar Aliyev stopped the war. It will take another 20 years - and it will be possible to talk with each other. And you need to talk - this is inevitable. An agreement on joint, strictly commission management when postponing the issue of the status of the territory by 50 years, returning the territories of Azerbaijan occupied by Armenia would be beneficial to both parties. Armenia unblocks the borders, gets the opportunity to trade normally, Azerbaijan gets the occupied territories. And both sides get peace - and this can be done now. In such cases, similar to hi everyone but the most rabid in Armenia and Azerbaijan would support the announcement. Only here the parties do not yearn for an agreement.
        1. Bakht
          Bakht April 6 2018 11: 42
          +10
          Offer it to the Armenian side. And you yourself will see who stirs up the conflict.
          I will supplement it. The status of Nagorno-Karabakh should be in the autonomous republic. With regional Armenian language. By full self-government and the right to veto decisions of the central authority regarding laws regarding autonomy. That is, the federalization of Azerbaijan on the principle of the Aland Islands. By the way, although the Constitution of Azerbaijan says about a single state, de facto, Azerbaijan is a federal state. We already have an autonomous republic with its Supreme Council, its own police and self-government.
          The solution to such issues is always one. The same option applies to Ukraine.
          1. andj61
            andj61 April 6 2018 12: 01
            +1
            Quote: Bakht
            Offer it to the Armenian side. And you yourself will see who stirs up the conflict.
            I will supplement it. The status of Nagorno-Karabakh should be in the autonomous republic. With regional Armenian language. By full self-government and the right to veto decisions of the central authority regarding laws regarding autonomy. That is, the federalization of Azerbaijan on the principle of the Aland Islands. By the way, although the Constitution of Azerbaijan says about a single state, de facto, Azerbaijan is a federal state. We already have an autonomous republic with its Supreme Council, its own police and self-government.
            The solution to such issues is always one. The same option applies to Ukraine.

            A very good option - you need to strive for it. That's just Armenia right now can not go for it - ordinary citizens will not understand. Think for yourself - the Armenians are the winners! They occupy almost 20% of the territory of Azerbaijan! And then capitulate?
            But to divide the process into stages is possible and necessary. First, return the occupied territories to Azerbaijan while lifting the blockade, returning refugees and securing a transport corridor in Karabakh from Armenia, then organize temporary joint management of Karabakh, even with the participation of some UN commissioner. And negotiations on the status of Karabakh between Armenia and Azerbaijan should be postponed for 50 years. And after 50 years, there will be no Armenians in Karabakh either - there is not much population growth in Armenia either! True, I do not think that Azerbaijanis will remain there. hi
            1. Bakht
              Bakht April 6 2018 12: 18
              +6
              The whole snag in the first sentence is "to return the occupied territories." No one in Armenia agrees. What is the second step? The war ... I do not want, but the options are not visible except for the "enforcement of peace."
              No pending negotiations. Return of territories, unblocking of transport arteries and status of Nagorno-Karabakh.
              So we came up smoothly to the main topic of the article ... Everyone was fixated on Nagorno-Karabakh. But the article linked Karabakh and ... Syrian trio. That is, the strategic union of Russia, Iran and Turkey. That is the idea of ​​Aliyev Sr. And in this regard, Karabakh is indeed a mine under this alliance. Any aggravation in Karabakh will destroy the consent of Russia of Iran and Turkey. Now, guess right now, who benefits from the aggravation in Karabakh in order to destroy the long-term work of the Russian Federation on returning to the South Caucasus?
              If it weren’t for Aliyev Jr., war would have blazed here for a long time and goodbye to all the strategic plans of the Russian Federation and many years of work.
              The military says, "while amateurs draw arrows on maps at headquarters and explore transport opportunities." What are the transportation opportunities to deploy a full-fledged grouping in Armenia and supply it with blocked transport routes? How much easier is the supply of the aerospace forces in Syria, if there is an airfield in Azerbaijan? The same base in Gyumri in Armenia hangs on transport aircraft and ... goodwill of Georgia. Oh, these warriors ... Couch ...
              1. Dam
                Dam April 6 2018 15: 00
                +5
                Well, it’s right that Aliyev does not let the war blaze. No offense, the soldiers from the Azeibardzhan, like a bullet from something (excluding the Talysh), the Armenians are fighting for their land, where they have nowhere to run and escape. This was the reason for the victory last time. But they do not believe in any federalization. The crisis in the region is created by order of the guys from behind the puddles. The benefits of it all of us are zero. So, sooner or later, the status quo will consolidate and settle down. And the sooner phantom pains end, the better.
                1. Bakht
                  Bakht April 6 2018 15: 37
                  +4
                  Wrong.
                  The reasons for victory and defeat in the last war lie in a completely different plane. And these are not "phantom pains." Are you calling us to put up with the loss of land? It's impossible. There is no point in even discussing. With this approach, there will be a war ...
                  1. Dam
                    Dam April 6 2018 16: 25
                    +3
                    With any approach, besides containing hot goals, Russia will be a war. And you have already lost the land, but you will lose more if you do not calm down. Following your logic, Russia must wage war until it collects all the lands of the Russian Empire. When you need to stop
                    1. Bakht
                      Bakht April 6 2018 19: 17
                      +3
                      If we do not calm down, then we will return everything ours. It will be so. But the men of Japan are satisfied with the current state of affairs. Armeni is the losing side. Those who are smarter in Armenia understand this. But ... propaganda prevents them from realizing the whole situation as a whole.
                  2. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
                    Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 6 2018 17: 13
                    +5
                    Quote: Bakht
                    Are you calling us to put up with the loss of land?

                    That yours will never be you Halal! Isn’t it clear that the Will of God is on the side of Truth, that is, on the side of My People,
                2. saigon
                  saigon April 6 2018 18: 04
                  +3
                  Yes, normal warriors of Mammad, but they are already very impressionable and hot.
                  They should not be called cowards.
                  But reconcile the Armenians and Azerbaijanis oh how soon this will happen and whether it will happen in general.
                  They remember all insults to each other from the biblical flood.
                  1. Bakht
                    Bakht April 6 2018 19: 19
                    +3
                    All problems began at the end of the 19th century. when some substance hit in the head. And from the Biblical flood until the 18th century, no one recalled any wrongs.
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                4. dSK
                  dSK April 7 2018 00: 23
                  +1
                  [quote] Boris Dzherelievsky: Recall that the Georgian armed forces prepared about 1000 Israeli military advisers to attack South Ossetia and the Russian peacekeeping contingent. ...General Galya Hirsch, one of the developers of the Israeli aggression against Lebanon in 2006. .... the development of the operation "Clean Field", involving the seizure of South Ossetia, ethnic cleansing and squeezing the non-Georgian population into the territory of Russia, was led Galya Hirsch and other Israeli military experts.
                  By the way, today, Israeli experts actively collaborate with Baku, arming and training the Azerbaijani Armed Forces [/ Quote]
                  That's where the "dog is buried." These are very “serious” organizers and “customers” of conflicts by “someone else's hands”.
            2. the finish
              the finish April 6 2018 13: 17
              +2
              And meanwhile .....
              Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan and Pope Francis attended the opening ceremony of the monument to the Armenian theologian and philosopher Grigor Narekatsi in the Vatican Gardens, the press service of the head of the Armenian state said on Thursday.

              "The monument was opened by the Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of Armenia to the Vatican, Mikael Minasyan. Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan and Pope Francis were present at the ceremony," the statement posted on the presidential website said.

              A two-meter bronze monument was cast in the Czech Republic. Its author is the national artist of Armenia David Yerevantsi. The statue was established with the patronage of support of Ambassador Minasyan and Russian businessman Artur Janibekyan.

              A copy of the monument will be placed in the spiritual center of the Armenian Apostolic Church - Holy See of Etchmiadzin.

              After the unveiling of the monument, an ecumenical ceremony was held with the participation of Pope Francis, Catholicos of All Armenians Garegin II and Catholicos of the Great House of Cilician Aram I (one of the key Armenian hierarchs), the press service said.

              Saint Grigor Narekatsi (Grigory Nareksky, circa 951-1003) is an Armenian poet, philosopher and theologian. Recognized by the Catholic Church as one of the 36 "Teachers of the Church." The peak of his work is considered the lyric-mystical poem "Book of sorrowful chants."
          2. businessv
            businessv April 6 2018 17: 22
            0
            Quote: Bakht
            The solution to such issues is always one. The same option applies to Ukraine.

            For an independent, this would be the preferred option, but the government is against it.
            1. Bakht
              Bakht April 6 2018 19: 22
              +3
              As always. First propaganda, and then it’s hard to break the general mood
            2. Antares
              Antares April 7 2018 10: 17
              0
              Quote: businessv
              but the government is against it.

              if the matter concerned the veto right only on matters of autonomy ... they want the veto right to the action of the whole country.
          3. garnik
            garnik April 6 2018 21: 28
            +2
            We already have an autonomous republic with its Supreme Council, its own police and self-government.

            Is it Nakhichevan? And where are the autonomous republics of Lezgistan, Avarstan, Talyshstan. etc. Until these formations there is no faith for you. The main thing is that all these peoples are autochthons.
            1. Ramzay121
              Ramzay121 April 7 2018 10: 24
              +3
              Quote: garnik
              Is it Nakhichevan? And where are the autonomous republics of Lezgistan, Avarstan, Talyshstan. etc. Until these formations there is no faith for you. The main thing is that all these peoples are autochthons.


              I propose the creation of the Armenian Autonomous Republic. How is the idea?
      3. V. Salama
        V. Salama April 6 2018 12: 30
        0
        Quote: sefevi
        I did not understand what the article was about? Karabakh belongs to us under ANY law, and ALL states of the world recognize it for us. Sooner or later, the war will be, it is inevitable, and to drag someone here is from the evil one. America region is uninteresting. Turkey was, is and will be for us in any situation. Moscow is trying to maintain the status quo ....

        The idea could be more clearly stated in the article: America, like Israel, may not be interested in the region, but they are very interested in moving the Karabakh conflict into a hot phase, thereby driving a wedge into cooperation between Russia and Turkey, which will inevitably weaken Russia's position in the Middle East.
        Quote: sefevi
        ... Karabakh belongs to us by ANY law, and ALL states of the world recognize it for us. Sooner or later, the war will be, it is inevitable ...
        ... and one day in Russia they will understand that it is better to be friends with Azerbaijan than to have it in enemies because of the Armenians living in a completely different country. Moreover, the maintenance of Armenia itself costs the Russian treasury quite expensive (free weapons, almost free loans, ...

        Don't you think these statements contradict each other?
        To your unconsciously motivated statement that Russia is better off being friends with Azerbaijan than with Armenia, there is an answer in the form of a joke from the KVN team of Tatarstan:
        “An uninvited guest is worse than a Tatar.”
        - Why do you not like us Tatars then?
        - Well, good! An uninvited guest is better than a Tatar.
        Moral: If we use the terms “better - worse” in this situation, then it won’t get better, especially since it’s not you, but the people of Russia, who should judge what is better for Russia.
      4. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
        Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 6 2018 16: 24
        +3
        Quote: sefevi
        I did not understand what the article was about?

        I will explain to you since you do not understand the obvious. We !!! We don’t want your radiant “blessed”, having 11 climatic zones, Ala Altai 2.0. Get used to this immutable truth, as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
      5. businessv
        businessv April 6 2018 17: 15
        +1
        Quote: sefevi
        I did not understand what the article was about?

        An article that it is just necessary to avoid a military solution to the conflict. Any war ends in peace, no other way, so why not bypass the hot phase so as not to destroy the triumvirate in the Middle East?
      6. garnik
        garnik April 6 2018 21: 19
        0
        The alignment may change, and one day in Russia they will understand that it is better to be friends with Azerbaijan than to have it in enemies because of Armenians living in a completely different country.

        The alignment may change if you can realize your dream with the help of the weapons you bought from Russia, then Russia will lose Armenia, which the Americans are counting on. And there you are just "one people two states" your leaders like to express so. And who are the Turks for Russia?
        And for the "free cheese", you yourself know what it costs. I would like to know how Russia contains Armenia? So far, the ruble has not been written off.
      7. Korsar4
        Korsar4 April 8 2018 05: 51
        0
        And those who live in Karabakh also think so?

        It is clear that you do not, and cannot have a different opinion.
        But for stability without lies to begin there, I don’t know what should happen.

        Unless Armenia and Azerbaijan are simultaneously asked to Russia. But this is from the realm of fantasy at the moment.
        1. garnik
          garnik April 8 2018 12: 05
          0
          The severance of relations between Armenia and Russia can happen only in the event of the loss of Artsakh. The status quo is beneficial to Russia and Armenia, but offensive weapons sold by the so-called. It gives Azerbaijan confidence in the victory over the Armenians, so it does not sit still. Without the help of the Turks, they would not budge and therefore the rapprochement between Russia and Turkey could play a cruel joke on the Armenians. Unfortunately for the friendship between the countries of the antagonists, the Armenians shed a lot of blood.
    2. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
      Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 6 2018 17: 10
      +2
      Quote: Vard
      They will ruin people

      Officer. Baku cannot understand much. But, He must understand the One Truth! We do not want, we do not want and physically cannot coexist with the shareholders from Azerbaijan in one State.
      1. Ramzay121
        Ramzay121 April 7 2018 10: 26
        +5
        We will give you a good place, somewhere in Africa, you will coexist with our own kind, especially in the physical plane
  2. Shadow shooter
    Shadow shooter April 6 2018 06: 57
    +3
    It is necessary to directly warn Aliyev that if he follows the mattresses of his dynasty, the end will come. Right now, times are such that the strong are always right and the winners are not judged. And to demolish Azerbaijan for the VKS and Iskander will not be difficult. I think the Turks are afraid to directly attack us because of Azerbaijan.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 6 2018 08: 18
      +15
      Do you solve all problems by force? Not a single Iskander will fly from over Karabakh. And the use of the videoconferencing system destroys everything that Putin built ten years in the South Caucasus. This will mean Russia's complete withdrawal from the region of the South Caucasus and the Middle East.
      Oh, these lovers of shooting ... As smart people said, "war is too serious a matter to trust its military"
      1. Flooding
        Flooding April 6 2018 09: 37
        +2
        Quote: Bakht
        And the use of the videoconferencing system destroys everything that Putin built ten years in the South Caucasus.

        Exactly. Why is peace in Transcaucasia not the fruit of politics, not only and not so much Russia, but primarily the countries of the Caucasus themselves?
        Is it because
        Quote: Bakht
        Oh, these lovers of shooting
        just do the politics in your countries?
        1. Bakht
          Bakht April 6 2018 09: 44
          +7
          Any government in Azerbaijan is obliged to maintain the integrity of the country. And therefore, while the enemy troops are on our territory, war is inevitable. And the "shooters" have nothing to do with it. We love to sell tomatoes, but we are forced to shoot. History teaches that even tomato merchants can become good soldiers. Epaminondas proved this to Agesilaus.
        2. Bakht
          Bakht April 6 2018 11: 00
          +2
          If the "shooters" made politics, then there would have long been a war. Just the "lovers" to shoot "are sitting on the emergency bench.
          Unlike the 90s, now there are the Armed Forces with a clear hierarchy, discipline, there are combat units in the form of brigades and corps. there is no gag here at all.
          As for the political structure in the South Caucasus (I have said more than once that the term Transcaucasia is in the past). Just now, the concept of senior Aliyev is looming. The outer circle is bad, good folding. The inner circle does not add up due to Karabakh. So, Armenia will have to solve this problem anyway. Which they themselves created. Myself on his head.
          1. just exp
            just exp April 6 2018 11: 38
            +4
            it’s not the Armenians who created the problem, but you, since you launched the Afghans towards you. who started the massacre. the same topic was in Bosnia.
            and all mattresses did it. but you and the Armenians were led to this, the Afghans left. and you are still biting.
            1. Bakht
              Bakht April 6 2018 11: 45
              +5
              Learn history .... Who started the conflict? You still have to study and study. Afghans saw, talked with them. It was a late stage of the conflict and they did not make any weather.
              1. just exp
                just exp April 6 2018 11: 49
                0
                I just taught, and moreover, I talked about 10 years ago with a direct witness to what was happening. at what an Azerbaijani.
                Yes, he still blamed the Armenians and hated them like the others, but he saw that yes. the Afghans were, they cut someone or not, he does not know. he acknowledges that the conflict began in those areas where the Afghans were at that time.
                wrote off the details below.
                1. Bakht
                  Bakht April 6 2018 12: 01
                  +4
                  This is not true .... Now we have switched to the OSB news portal (one grandmother said).
                  There were no Afghans in 1988-1989. Well, at least for a second, turn on the mind. What are the Afghan mujahideen in the USSR?
                  1. just exp
                    just exp April 6 2018 12: 15
                    +1
                    do not confuse graters and a full-fledged war, the Bosnians had almost the same situation, but someone was the first to shed blood. and no one was going to spill it first, but someone helped to accomplish this. and after that it was already difficult to stop.
                    I say again - take the recent history of all conflicts in both the ex-USSR and the former. Yugoslavia, and draw parallels.
                    You will see a lot of coincidences.
                    1. Bakht
                      Bakht April 6 2018 12: 54
                      +3
                      The only conflict that Karabakh literally repeats is Kosovo. Moreover, there is a coincidence, even in small things. The only exception is that the Serbs in Kosovo began to win, and therefore NATO had to bomb Belgrade. I am completely sure that if Azerbaijan would win the war, then Baku would also be bombed.
                      In general, the similarity of conflicts is simply amazing. So only Kosovo and Karabakh need to be compared
                2. saigon
                  saigon April 6 2018 18: 25
                  0
                  Well, what did that eyewitness weave? What Afghans are there in 88-89?
                  Before they without any Afghans burned each other’s houses for a sweet soul.
                  There hatred without visiting characters over the edge was from the wallpaper of the parties, just the brutality of some characters, their eyes cut empty, burned, these are those bitches who started to destroy then and people would live in A ** heh calmly now.
              2. Dam
                Dam April 6 2018 15: 07
                +2
                My friend fought on your side in the war. He is ethnic Russian, originally from Baku. I heard a lot from him how they mobilized surrounding markets and at the exit from public transport, how people shed at the first opportunity, how many were killed. It's not easy sometimes, the desire to strengthen power with a small victorious war leads to unexpected results.
                1. Bakht
                  Bakht April 6 2018 15: 39
                  +2
                  Your friend didn’t tell how many volunteers there were? ask. If he doesn’t know, then I’ll tell you ... I’ll give you names, surnames. Oh, these eyewitnesses ....
                  1. Dam
                    Dam April 6 2018 16: 22
                    0
                    He himself eventually defected after 1; 5 years of war in special forces.
                    1. Bakht
                      Bakht April 6 2018 19: 24
                      +1
                      Can you write in a personal to which special forces? :-) So many of them divorced. There was only one special unit that deserved this name. Everyone else just loved the beautiful words.
                  2. mariusdeayeraleone
                    mariusdeayeraleone April 6 2018 23: 21
                    +2
                    He is finally right! His friend in the heat was apparently
            2. Ramzay121
              Ramzay121 April 6 2018 11: 55
              +3
              what nonsense did you write here, you yourself even believed it. If you do not understand the situation, then it is not necessary to drop a line here
              1. Ramzay121
                Ramzay121 April 6 2018 11: 56
                +2
                It's me to just explo.
          2. Flooding
            Flooding April 6 2018 11: 41
            +1
            In essence, I will not object to anything written.
            Quote: Bakht
            I have said more than once that the term Transcaucasia is in the past

            As you wish, call your region.
            I use the term that I learned many years ago.
            By the way, how will it be in English?
            Do you allow Central Asia to be called Central?
            1. Bakht
              Bakht April 6 2018 11: 47
              +2
              I do not allow and do not forbid. . The term Transcaucasia was relevant for the USSR. After the collapse of the country, this is a region of the South Caucasus, which once again indicates that Russia is losing its influence here. I also studied in a Soviet school. But if you are discussing political issues, then it is more correct to use the term South Caucasus.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding April 6 2018 12: 13
                +1
                Quote: Bakht
                The term Transcaucasia was relevant for the USSR. After the collapse of the country, it is already a region of the South Caucasus

                It seems to me that everything is somewhat different.
                The term was relevant in RI, after the collapse of which ... remained relevant.

                And individual wishes do not count.
                1. Bakht
                  Bakht April 6 2018 13: 00
                  +3
                  Well, why do I need this newspaper? I say "the term was relevant for the USSR." Or the Russian Empire. That is, for a country that had territory in Transcaucasia. And what territories does Russia now have in the South Caucasus? Politically, the territory of Transcaucasia does not exist. Does Russia want to return? I'm not against. But then there is no need to scare us with Iskanders or VKS.
                  Want a natural answer to any Iskander? An invitation to the States to deploy their base in Azerbaijan. It is a legitimate and predictable move. And goodbye North-South transport artery, goodbye interaction with Turkey. The stretching of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation also to the south.
                  It is good that adequate people are sitting in the Kremlin.
                  Yes, and in Baku, too. Therefore, Azerbaijan does not start full-scale hostilities. In this situation, we definitely lose independence and become the second Syria. But ... no need to scare. On the "cunning ass always has a bolt with a screw"
                  1. Flooding
                    Flooding April 6 2018 13: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Bakht
                    But then you don’t need to scare us here with Iskanders or VKS

                    I hope these words are not on my account.

                    Quote: Bakht
                    Want a natural answer to any Iskander? An invitation to the States to deploy their base in Azerbaijan. It is a legitimate and predictable move. And goodbye North-South transport artery, goodbye interaction with Turkey.

                    With Turkey, yes, you have to say goodbye in this situation.
                    As well as Azerbaijan with sovereignty. Not nominal, actual.
                    And any possible military clash will then lead to unpredictable results. Up to the most fatal.
                    An interesting version of the answer.
                    But Russia still has not had time to really get close to Turkey.
                    And what this cooperation will lead to - the grandmother said in two.
                    So the possible losses here are connected mainly not with Turkey, but with the former Soviet Transcaucasia. And it is clear that the alignment in the Middle East will change.
                    1. Bakht
                      Bakht April 6 2018 13: 31
                      +2
                      Therefore, no one makes sharp gestures. As the saying goes, "one careless movement - and you are the father"
                      The consequences are not calculated by any computer. But the problem did not disappear from this.
      2. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii April 6 2018 09: 37
        +6
        They say correctly: a bad world is better than .... hi
        1. Bakht
          Bakht April 6 2018 09: 45
          +5
          A bad world is always worse .... Can you make a bad peace with the Americans right now?
          1. dog breeder
            dog breeder April 6 2018 10: 27
            +4
            Our countries do not fight. What American politicians are doing is trying to regain their dominance. And our politicians are always open to dialogue, only the Americans do not go for it. Because, like any conflict in any region of the globe, this is the sphere of US interests. Have you ever wondered why? By the way, Azerbaijan for them is no more valuable than Armenia.
            1. Bakht
              Bakht April 6 2018 11: 01
              +3
              Since the 90s, I argued with the wording that there is a "sphere of interests." Azerbaijan is a sphere of interests of Azerbaijanis. No one else. Neither the United States, nor Russia, nor Turkey. That is the whole concept.
              1. dog breeder
                dog breeder April 6 2018 11: 16
                +5
                In fact, the concept, based on current realities, should be general. Good neighborly!
              2. V. Salama
                V. Salama April 6 2018 13: 00
                0
                Quote: Bakht
                Since the 90s, I argued with the wording that there is a "sphere of interests." Azerbaijan is a sphere of interests of Azerbaijanis. No one else. Neither the United States, nor Russia, nor Turkey. That is the whole concept.

                If you take Azerbaijan in its "pure" form - abstract. But how everything is relative in the real world. No system can exist without exchange of matter, energy and information with the external environment. And if someone starts to counteract the flow of Azerbaijani tomatoes, will this be an interference in the sphere of interests of Azerbaijan? And if Azerbaijan decides to deploy US military bases and reconnaissance complexes on its territory, will this infringe on the interests of neighboring states? By the way, EMNIP in the territory of Azerbaijan some American biological laboratories are located, the activities of which are not subject to local control. Maybe I'm wrong?
                1. Bakht
                  Bakht April 6 2018 15: 42
                  +2
                  Maybe there is. The information is so secret that I don’t see any reason to believe any journalistic investigations. I heard about such laboratories throughout the CIS. There are no facts and therefore no comment.
                  In any case, no one is walking around the cities and streets of Azerbaijan in a foreign form. We have no military bases of foreign states.
                  1. V. Salama
                    V. Salama April 6 2018 18: 06
                    0
                    Quote: Bakht
                    Maybe there is. ...... I heard about such laboratories throughout the CIS. There are no facts and therefore no comment.
                    ... We have no military bases of foreign states.

                    On the facts of the location of these laboratories in the CIS, a map was shown on our central TV. I did not say anything about the deployment of military bases, but I gave as an example to clarify that the concept of "sphere of interests" is too categorically defined in your favor according to the situation.
                    In the history of Karabakh, I personally have already forgotten the nuances, but with Kosovo I see less of a similar. Rather, the situation with Ukraine and LDNR is more suitable. Perhaps my ideas are not true, but such ideas are shaped by the way they were covered in the media. Although in Kosovo we can have different ideas, which is obvious, since there are two opposing opinions on this situation.
                    1. Bakht
                      Bakht April 6 2018 19: 26
                      +2
                      These are two absolutely similar conflicts. In everything. The mystery is that even the first victims are similar. In general, these are exactly the same conflicts. And for the reasons and the first incidents and the result.
                      1. V. Salama
                        V. Salama April 6 2018 21: 11
                        +1
                        Well, an interesting interpretation, but there is nothing to object to - I do not have detailed information on Karabakh. It will be necessary to allocate time to study this issue. The following statements are particularly intriguing:
                        Quote: Bakht
                        ... The mystery is that even the first victims are similar. In general, these are exactly the same conflicts. And for the reasons and the first incidents and the result.

                        Perhaps the mystery has nothing to do with it, just the director is the same. There is someone who does not bother with the search for new ways to unleash heated conflicts, if the old ones worked successfully.
          2. ul_vitalii
            ul_vitalii April 6 2018 10: 54
            +7
            Quote: Bakht
            A bad world is always worse .... Can you make a bad peace with the Americans right now?

            Well, I opened the door for you, and you put your foot along with your nose and nose. Well, how to communicate with you, I’m talking about your situation, and you’ll fight about what you’ve come to the site with and will rake again and again hi
            1. Bakht
              Bakht April 6 2018 11: 15
              +4
              You don’t know the story. War is not always bad. Read what wars are. You can communicate with me if you write the right things. There are aggressive wars, there is aggression. Provoked and unprovoked. There is a war of liberation. There is a national liberation. So in 1915, the Germans offered Russia peace. Separate. For some reason, the king decided that it was better to continue the war. In 1944, the German press shouted that the USSR should end the war because the cause had disappeared. Stalin decided that it was better to fight.
              1. just exp
                just exp April 6 2018 11: 30
                +6
                lol, the Germans came, destroyed the whole country, killed millions of people, and they are so-here we became weaker than you, and you began to win and there is no reason for us to fight. Let's be friends .
                in general there is someone on this planet that would decide on the site of the USSR to end the war?
                1. Bakht
                  Bakht April 6 2018 11: 33
                  +3
                  There were such conversations.
                  And now to the realities. The Armenians came, seized the territory, expelled people. And now "let's be friends"?
                  "Who on the site of Azerbaijan decides to end the war?"
                  1. just exp
                    just exp April 6 2018 11: 46
                    +3
                    there was no such thing. Armenians in the Caucasus lived long before you appeared there, it was you who came and occupied the land.
                    but centuries have passed since then, and the Armenians and other peoples do not recall this. but they lived in Karabakh a very long time, and all the Afghans who you invited as Muslims came to each other, started a cultural exchange and all that. only these "guests" are called there not for the sake of cultural exchange, but for provocations. they began to slaughter Armenians. the Armenians have become sweet at you. you are not knowing why the Armenians got better at you began to answer them.
                    that is, neither you nor the Armenians began. and those whom you invited to your place.
                    it was already in documentaries, with the American ones, they described where the CIA went about mujahideen after the collapse of the USSR, they sent them everywhere where it was necessary to rekindle the conflict between Muslims and other religions, in Chechnya, they and the Arabs were singing and the most cruel to prisoners (those who cut off their heads alive) were also Afghans.
                    and Bosnia is the same thing, and they also wanted to set fire to India, by the way, about the same scenario was recently in Myanmar, there the newcomers began to cut non-Muslims, and they answered the Rohingya, and it began.
                    the scenario is EVERYWHERE the same. EVERYWHERE, like the color revolutions, but works with everyone.
                    1. Bakht
                      Bakht April 6 2018 11: 52
                      +4
                      Learn from the movies? Stay with your opinion. Wrong, but mine. An eyewitness to these events is me. The Afghans were in Baku. I can even name the year and where I spoke with them. They did not make any weather here. The conflict began in the summer of 1987. But arguing with a person who believes in "documentary" films is just time to lose. By the way, then in 1987 I was in Karabakh, Kelbajar and Lachin. I don’t have to make a fool of me here.
                      1. just exp
                        just exp April 6 2018 12: 09
                        +2
                        Well, yes, Chechnya and Bosnia also began to rebel on their own, and the fact that their mattresses were supported openly and without hiding (all kinds of funds of officers, mission to save the population and other NGOs). and the fact that there were Afghans at that time both there and there, who were very eager to launch a war on the territory of the exSSSR (even in Tajikistan), this is purely coincidence. After all, wherever the fought Afghans would come, they will certainly tell everyone what and how they did and tell honestly. Yeah. By the way, none of you thought why EVERYWHERE on the territory of the ex-USSR where there was a border of cultures and religions, wars or attempts to spark a conflict started (even in Tatarstan and Mordovia there were attempts, but they were stopped)?
                        For example, I was born in Moldova and I remember how the Transnistrian conflict began, but not a single Moldovan now admits that it was THEIR fault in this. and they are to me. to whom everyone saw with their own eyes such tales were told. and only one person, my political science teacher (one of the largest political scientists in Moldova, a permanent consultant on I don’t remember what issues already) just mentioned that if the president and parliament hadn’t been called from America, there would have been no war .
                        and so wherever there was a difference of cultures and religions, there was a squabble. at what about the same year, and by the way in the same scenario.
                        but you and others do not want to admit that your fault is there (because it is easier to consider yourself a saint, a warrior for good than guilty of something), and therefore it is useless to argue with you.
                        you want, you yourself will look for information about the use of the CIA of the Afghans, maybe you will understand something, but no, well, no.
                        I stop the dispute for sim.
                        everyone will remain in their own opinion.
                    2. Ramzay121
                      Ramzay121 April 6 2018 12: 00
                      +3
                      just explo- do you have everything at home? where did you find this information. Do you even know where Afghanistan is and where Transcaucasia is. This is what the Armenian propagandists do, that we then deal with such, with help 9B
                    3. saigon
                      saigon April 6 2018 18: 39
                      +2
                      Dear you, about which Afghans weave in Karabakh in 88-89, how did they get there?
                      The USSR was then, and this is not Russia with open borders.
                      Do not repeat the fables, please, people who remember this and have not yet died out, wait. years so through natsat and tell
                      Letters like Zack say anything to you?
              2. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny April 6 2018 21: 05
                +3
                In 1944, the German press shouted that the USSR should end the war because the cause had disappeared. Stalin decided that it was better to fight.

                You didn’t get anything wrong? The site was not mistaken? Or, Azerbaijanis, who gave their lives, including for you, in vain? Go to the sanatorium for a rest. And then porridge in the head. Further, it was about you that Lavrov said.
                1. Bakht
                  Bakht April 6 2018 23: 33
                  +3
                  I did not confuse ...
                  Read the Casablanca conference, Churchill's concerns. And when the USSR joined the theses of Casablanca.
                  And in Germany they wrote that after reaching the border of the USSR there was no point in fighting in Europe.
                  By the way, this is an echo of the war of 1812. Kutuzov also believed that after the exile of Napoleon, the Russian army should not go to Europe.
                  So look at the materials of Casablanca and just figure out why Stalin did not sign one item for almost 9 months
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny April 6 2018 23: 51
                    +1
                    Your name is Mankurts. This is not me talking. This is Chingiz Aitmatov said. This is the kind of propaganda that has not yet strengthened its minds. Mn5 do not care what you think there for Casablanca, etc. It is visible your family of the Second World War bypassed. Hiding in the mountains?
                    1. Bakht
                      Bakht April 6 2018 23: 59
                      +5
                      My grandfathers fought .... If you don’t know, then you don’t need to talk with your tongue ... By the way, mankurt is not a person who remembers his story. Just about you
                      1. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny April 7 2018 17: 39
                        0
                        So you betray the memory of your grandfathers. Was your sarcasm that Stalin decided to fight at 44? Should not have? Germans feel sorry for? So go to Urengoy, with Kolk you will sing on your favorite topics.
                2. Bakht
                  Bakht April 6 2018 23: 45
                  +2
                  By the way, this topic is much more interesting than Karabakh.
                  It is no secret that certain circles in the governments of Great Britain and the USA after the Battle of Stalingrad, after Kursk began to fear: would the Red Army stop after all its losses on the border, would the Soviet Union conclude some kind of separate truce with Hitler? The study of this issue at the headquarters of the US Army, American intelligence began in 1943. Special documents were even issued, in particular, “Can America and Russia cooperate?” Dedicated to this.
    2. Safevi
      Safevi April 6 2018 10: 46
      +5
      "And it’s not difficult to demolish Azerbaijan for the VKS and Iskander. I think the Turks are afraid to directly attack us from behind Azerbaijan."
      Do you really want to fight with someone? There you can tear the navel for an hour, once. And let me ask, WHAT are you going to "demolish" Azerbaijan FOR? The country has been occupied, 20% of the territory is occupied by aggressors. On the territory of the country are the troops of a foreign state, for this? Well done, nothing to say.
      1. just exp
        just exp April 6 2018 11: 35
        +2
        no one should be demolished at all, neither Azerbaijan nor Armenia.
        a bad world is better than a good quarrel. perhaps once again all countries will unite into one super country and then in general the reason will disappear. but for now these are vain deaths and vain tears of mothers, widows and orphans.
    3. andj61
      andj61 April 6 2018 11: 38
      +2
      Quote: Shadow Shooter
      And to demolish Azerbaijan for the VKS and Iskander will not be difficult.

      Americans during the WWII used massive bombardment - both Germany and Japan. At the same time, cities were often completely destroyed, and the consequences of such raids were similar to the use of nuclear weapons and were distinguished by huge casualties among the civilian population. Only these bombings did not lead to the surrender of either Germany or Japan - it was necessary to defeat the armed forces of these countries. So missile strikes and the use of air force will not lead to anything. And no one will fight with Azerbaijan. As well as Azerbaijan, it is not going to conquer Armenia. And Russia has obligations to Armenia solely in the event of a threat to its generally recognized territory. Yes, and it's stupid - to fight. Need to negotiate. hi
    4. Ramzay121
      Ramzay121 April 6 2018 12: 06
      +5
      Quote: Shadow Shooter
      And to demolish Azerbaijan for the VKS and Iskander will not be difficult.


      Of course, who would doubt And what about other countries, for example, one of the NATO countries, that the gut is thin, or only with the CIS countries you are cool. It’s good that everyone understands what will happen to Armenia if we are left alone face to face. Do you know what will happen? No, there will be no war. They just immediately give us the occupied land, and even blame Russia for this, they say they captured and quarreled us. By the way, I already hear this version from some Armenians.
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 6 2018 07: 09
    +4
    They were sent there with the sanction of the Israeli government by two private military firms: Global CSC, General Israel Ziv, and Different Shields, General Galya Hirsch, one of the developers of the Israeli aggression against Lebanon in 2006. The firm of former Israeli minister Roni Milo also worked actively in Georgia.

    Now there will be denials from the "blue-star" !!! bully
    1. alexsipin
      alexsipin April 6 2018 08: 40
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      Now there will be denials from the "blue-star" !!!

      Blue-star ones probably won't notice it. This is not our conflict and it is not particularly interesting to us. However, the sympathies of most Israelis are on the side of Azerbaijanis.
      1. Safevi
        Safevi April 6 2018 10: 42
        +2
        "The sympathies of most Israelis are on the side of the Azerbaijanis."
        we know and appreciate it! Similarly. We and Jews are linked by centuries of friendship and peaceful coexistence. We have never had anti-Semitism.
        1. mgero
          mgero April 6 2018 13: 38
          0
          Kak mnogovekovaja
          1. mariusdeayeraleone
            mariusdeayeraleone April 6 2018 23: 26
            +4
            A group of Jews was expelled from Spain in the 17th century! They were sheltered by the Khan Fatali in Azerbaijan. So since then do not spill water, they walk on the earth.
            The proposal of autonomy from nosy, the Jews rejected.
  4. Bakht
    Bakht April 6 2018 08: 15
    +5
    Set of stamps. And some strange conclusions. The situation with Karabakh is, of course, intolerant. But the key to the decision does not lie in Moscow or Washington. The key lies in Yerevan.
    Everything else is just a free-style scripture. One simple truth must be known for sure. The war in Karabakh could erupt at any moment. And there is no need to drag Russia, Turkey, Israel or any other country here. Mina laid by Yerevan and Yerevan must also clear mine
    1. andj61
      andj61 April 6 2018 11: 47
      +1
      Quote: Bakht
      The situation with Karabakh is, of course, intolerant. But the key to the decision does not lie in Moscow or Washington. The key lies in Yerevan.

      The key still lies in two places - in Yerevan and Baku. If the key is in Yerevan, then you think that there is no reason to talk at all - let, they say, the Armenians clean up their generally recognized borders - and that’s it! But this approach is not constructive. After all, it is clear that Yerevan simply cannot do this. Need to negotiate.
      Yerevan has something to offer for the postponed 50-100 years status of Karabakh - a return of the occupied territories of Azerbaijan. Yerevan only needs to agree to joint "temporary" management of Karabakh together with Azerbaijan, plus providing a transport corridor from Armenia to Karabakh. Baku has something to get - here and now - for its consent to this.
      So there is an opportunity hi reach an agreement.
      1. Bakht
        Bakht April 6 2018 11: 54
        +2
        That is, Armenia should maintain the occupation of the territory of Azerbaijan? Is this the basis of the negotiations?
        bye
        1. andj61
          andj61 April 6 2018 12: 11
          +2
          Quote: Bakht
          That is, Armenia should maintain the occupation of the territory of Azerbaijan? Is this the basis of the negotiations?
          bye

          That is, do you consider the joint management of the territory of Karabakh unacceptable? And you do not want on this basis to immediately receive the occupied territories of Azerbaijan besides Karabakh? And how then do you differ from the Armenians who agree to liberate the occupied territories (besides Karabakh) only on the basis of recognition of the independence of Karabakh? Then it is beneficial for you (and not for Russia) to maintain the status quo: we will sit for at least a hundred years and wait until all the Armenians from the region leave for Russia, France or the United States. On the other hand - the option is not worse than others! Just do not then say that maintaining the status quo is beneficial to Russia. Negotiations and agreements are in mutual compromises. When Armenia and Azerbaijan are ready for compromises, the agreements will take place. hi
          1. Bakht
            Bakht April 6 2018 13: 05
            +3
            What does co-management mean? I know the status of the federation, I know the status of autonomy. The precedent of Åland is also clear. And what is co-management?
            I offer the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh complete self-government. His own Supreme Council, his own police, prosecutors, courts. The right to veto decisions from Baku. Everything except his army and foreign policy. Your language and culture. By the way, before the conflict in Azerbaijan, the Armenian language was widely spoken. If the Armenians wanted self-determination, then they get all this. Within the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. Thus seemingly incompatible things are consistent: the right of nations to self-determination and territorial integrity
            1. andj61
              andj61 April 6 2018 16: 14
              0
              Quote: Bakht
              What does co-management mean? I know the status of the federation, I know the status of autonomy. The precedent of Åland is also clear. And what is co-management?

              If it was not before, it does not mean that it is impossible to agree on this. The Aland Islands have had a special status since the Crimean War (demilitarized zone, one official Swedish language, disobedience to the central parliament, the ability to veto decisions of the central government). Then they used the rights of the winner - they terrified Russia, since then the status has remained. And there are no winners! Rather, the Armenians won in the 90s, and now Azerbaijan is preparing for revenge. And collaborative management can be simple. An equal number from both sides in the governing body under the leadership of, for example, an authoritative UN commissioner for the transition period (for example, 50 years or more), Tasks - humanitarian: return and organization of reception of refugees, organization of local self-government, issues of reception and distribution of humanitarian aid, development of the region’s economy. Introduce a police mission from some Nepalese Gurkhas so that there is no shadow of addiction to any side. And so for 50 years. The tension will immediately be removed - and there is no need to fight. And after 50 years, perhaps there will be no residents at all .... hi
              And according to a status similar to Aland: here the Kakrabakh parliament makes a decision that the only language of Karabakh will be Armenian, and Azerbaijanis can enter Karabakh only by visa and in exceptional cases. And refugees from the Azerbaijani settlements of Karabakh are not returning. In fact, complete independence, only a formal entry into Azerbaijan. Do you think it will be acceptable for Azerbaijanis? In my opinion, better joint management. hi
              1. Bakht
                Bakht April 6 2018 19: 31
                +1
                I will honestly tell you how it will look. The language will be Armenian regional. Documentation in two languages. I do not believe in the return of refugees. Maybe over time. The veto is only applicable to laws regarding autonomy. Its deputies, its judges, police All authorities. There are already two Supreme Councils in Azerbaijan. And its own local police and its judges. In fact, Azerbaijan has long been a federal republic. You never know what is written in the Constitution.
                There will be no equal representation due to the absence of two nations in Karabakh. There will be purely Armenian self-government. But the principle of territorial integrity of the state has not been canceled.
            2. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
              Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 6 2018 17: 03
              +2
              Quote: Bakht
              I offer the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh

              Who you are? Can you imagine? What, you can offer something that we did not achieve ourselves with God's help. All that, you are trying to hang us, like we have noodles on the fan! As for your cookies in the form of investment and development for a second, not yours !!! What it means to be “peaceful” is better to take such a minimum as resettling people from Bailovo and Sovetskaya. Finally, fulfill your social and economic obligations to your own People! Only then invite us to the pan-Turkic trap. Radiant Khazret to Ilham! Well, of course, the laurels of Khirrem, the first Lady of the Earth Mehriban Khatun.
              1. mariusdeayeraleone
                mariusdeayeraleone April 6 2018 23: 58
                +2
                Wake up! Your country is a military training ground, and you’re experiencing everything you need there.
        2. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
          Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 6 2018 16: 49
          +3
          Quote: Bakht
          That is, Armenia must maintain the occupation of the territory of Azerbaijan

          You substitute concepts by introducing officers who are not sophisticated in the intrigues of official Baku, visitors to VO. We are using God's Will! We only restore the Historical Justice of my People!
          1. mariusdeayeraleone
            mariusdeayeraleone April 6 2018 23: 29
            +4
            What justice awaits those who have betrayed their surroundings wandering around the world for centuries?
    2. icant007
      icant007 April 6 2018 22: 49
      +6
      I agree. The initiator of the Karabakh conflict was Yerevan, or someone behind it. In general, I was always offended by Azerbaijan, which was undeservedly slandered by the Soviet media back in 88-91. On the side of Armenia was virtually the entire journalistic corps of the USSR. But this is understandable. Armenia is well represented in Russian scientific and public circles. Armenia was the first to arm itself and invade the territory of Azerbaijan. Already in 1990, the Armenian National Army was actively operating, that there were no attacks on army depots. And the invasion of the Kazakh region of Azerbaijan in August 1990? Azerbaijan created its Ministry of Defense only a year later. Yes, of course, Azerbaijan also had armed groups, but the Armenian militants clearly dominated the reports of those times. As I remember in the textbook on the Geography of Azerbaijan, the population of Karabakh is 165 thousand, of which about 120 thousand are Armenians. So what? Was it necessary to start a war because of this? So let's follow this logic to give Armenia the Armenian regions of Rostov-on-Don or the neighboring Armenian villages - Chaltyr, Leninanavan, etc. .....
      1. mariusdeayeraleone
        mariusdeayeraleone April 6 2018 23: 30
        +2
        You know, half of Riga is Russian!
        Did you know that Riga, an ancient Russian city ???
  5. konstantin68
    konstantin68 April 6 2018 08: 44
    +1
    Quote: Bakht
    Set of stamps. And some strange conclusions. The situation with Karabakh is, of course, intolerant. But the key to the decision does not lie in Moscow or Washington. The key lies in Yerevan.
    Everything else is just a free-style scripture. One simple truth must be known for sure. The war in Karabakh could erupt at any moment. And there is no need to drag Russia, Turkey, Israel or any other country here. Mina laid by Yerevan and Yerevan must also clear mine

    With all due respect to you, but I would like to hear another version of "Yerevan".
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 6 2018 09: 21
      +4
      The version of Yerevan is known: "we were attacked. We are defending ourselves. Russia save and help."
      The fact is the presence of the Armenian Armed Forces in the territory of Azerbaijan. No versions will help here. This is a direct occasion for the start of hostilities. So the influence of other strong players is to deter Azerbaijan from the outbreak of hostilities.
  6. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD April 6 2018 09: 22
    +5
    However, Ilham Aliyev, whose father ended the war in Karabakh, begun by his predecessors, is known as a sensible and pragmatic politician. Without a doubt, he is perfectly aware of all the risks that the resumption of war carries for Azerbaijan and for him personally.
    Maybe so, but judging by the latest statements by representatives of Azerbaijan, and even Aliyev himself, the biceps are already tearing the sleeves of the hot Baku guys there. And after each particularly high-profile statement, maneuvers of our troops take place in Armenia and surrounding regions. So, Baku’s “rationality” is still being managed within acceptable limits. How long ?
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 6 2018 09: 47
      +5
      You take care of the "rationality" of Yerevan. That is where the problem is.
      Russia can carry out any maneuvers in the territory of Armenia. This is your personal affair and that of Armenia. Not a single Russian soldier will conduct maneuvers in Azerbaijan. And it doesn’t. Putin, unlike the writers here, is much more intelligent.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD April 6 2018 09: 55
        +4
        Quote: Bakht
        Not a single Russian soldier will conduct maneuvers in Azerbaijan. And it doesn’t. Putin, unlike the writers here, is much more intelligent.

        Did I say something about the maneuvers of the Russian army not in the territory of Azerbaijan? I talked about the Russian North Caucasian territories, Armenia and the Caspian. With the fact that Putin is a very reasonable person - I completely agree. The rhetoric of Azerbaijan has recently been very belligerent. You, as the representative of Azerbaijan, have a different opinion - this is normal. It would be amazing to hear from you otherwise .. hi
        1. Bakht
          Bakht April 6 2018 11: 05
          +2
          Maneuvers of Russia in the North. The Caucasus, just like the maneuvers in Armenia in Azerbaijan, is of no interest to anyone. Except crazy journalists. The rhetoric of Azerbaijan is not so much militant as it is aimed at restoring territorial integrity. Which was quite expected. In 1870, France lost Alsace and Lorraine. And until 1914 (44 years), the rhetoric of France was quite militant. This is normal. Other rhetoric would be defeatist.
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD April 6 2018 11: 14
            +7
            Quote: Bakht
            Azerbaijan’s rhetoric is not so much militant as it is aimed at restoring territorial integrity

            Statements that even Yerevan belongs to the historical Azerbaijani regions, coming from politicians of the highest rank, are very belligerent and go beyond the existing territorial disputes. You can argue about the return of Karabakh as much as you like, just do not shoot. There will be a peaceful exit sooner or later, but you will not return the dead.
            1. Bakht
              Bakht April 6 2018 11: 37
              +2
              There is no hint of Yerevan joining Azerbaijan in the speech. Or the destruction of Armenia. There is a call to liberate the occupied territories.
              If you go deep into history, then any state is located on someone’s historical lands. The appeal to "historical justice" was first introduced to the area by Armenians.
              Peaceful exit has long been indicated. The withdrawal of the occupying forces, the liberation of the occupied areas and the status of Nagorno-Karabakh. Without de-occupation, there is no peace process and cannot be.
            2. Ramzay121
              Ramzay121 April 6 2018 12: 12
              +3
              No one is going to attack Armenia, and the right of any country to protect its territory and return the captured territories. Did Russia or any other country have done the same? In fact, everyone understands, and especially in Armenia, that the losing country is Armenia, in everything. We will return the territory, there is no doubt about it. But they will never return our trust.
  7. Bakht
    Bakht April 6 2018 09: 50
    +2
    For information of any "analeteg" ...
    In Karabakh, the front line passes. Is it necessary to remind that they are shooting at the front? So there are no hotheads at all. And there is no policy. There is a front line and there is no need to be surprised.
  8. ism_ek
    ism_ek April 6 2018 09: 51
    +8
    We need to look at things more widely.
    Karabakh is a particular. The main problem is Azerbaijan as a whole. This is a country with an unstable history.
    On the one hand - Azerbaijanis, Shiites oriented to Iran. On the other hand, their language is Turkic and the elites are oriented to Turkey. Once the Azerbaijanis, along with the Albanians, Bosnians and other peoples, made up the so-called "iron belt" of the Ottoman Empire.
    Iran has its own, Inner Azerbaijan. Not everything is okay with him, although there are a lot of Azerbaijanis in the Iranian leadership.
    The history of nations like Azerbaijanis is easy to rewrite. Who will write this story is not at all clear.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 6 2018 11: 08
      +2
      That's bullshit. What is the term "unstable story"? Do you know the story? There are books, scientific papers. Ethnogenesis and the formation of the people, the creation of nations. What is the difference between a nation and a nation? Tribe? By the state?
      The history of Azerbaijan is more ancient than the history of the USA. Or Norway. Just because someone writes and rewrites a story doesn't mean it's true. Safavids ruled Iran for a long time. And although there are smart people to climb into Wikipedia, the language of the court and nobility of Persia at that time was Azerbaijani.
      1. konstantin68
        konstantin68 April 6 2018 11: 48
        +5
        As far as I read the story, Karabakh is the original territory of the Armenians, which went to Azerbaijan, as did Crimea to Ukraine. And if the Azerbaijani authorities behaved more adequately in the 90s, there would be no problem. IMHO.
        1. Bakht
          Bakht April 6 2018 11: 57
          +3
          Not quite right read
          In 1978, the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh celebrated the 150th anniversary of their resettlement, and a monument was erected in honor of this in the village of Maragashen - Leninavan, Mardakert - Agdara district. The village is named after its first homeland - the Armenian village of Maraga in Iran.

          Who destroyed this monument is unknown. Both sides nod at each other.
          http://armdeza.blogspot.com/2011/09/150.html
          1. ism_ek
            ism_ek April 6 2018 12: 28
            +4
            Gandzasar is an Armenian monastery, an outstanding monument of Armenian culture. Located on the left bank of the Khachen River, near the village of Vank in Nagorno-Karabakh. Established in 1216

            Amaras Monastery is an early medieval monastery in the southeastern part of Nagorno-Karabakh. Famous religious and cultural center of medieval Armenia.
            1. Bakht
              Bakht April 6 2018 13: 11
              +4
              Well preserved from the 13th century. I dare you to note that I was in Karabakh and saw many churches there. Albanian. He even lived in the village of Sons Kilsya (the destroyed Church). Armenians are an alien people in Karabakh. But even this does not give the right to redistribute the territories. Read Buchanan Secession Issues. Recognized authority in matters of self-determination. The weakest argument is historical justice.
              Tell me, on the historical scene of the 13th century there were US states, Russia, maybe historical justice must be restored with respect to the Mongolian state? Or restore the 19th century Habsburg empire. What about the 18th century Ottoman Empire?
              This is the weakest argument that is given here.
              1. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
                Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 6 2018 16: 39
                +2
                Quote: Bakht
                need to restore historical justice in relation to the Mongolian state?

                Dear user from Altai 2.0, you can’t pull Baigush to the Deva Tower. Just as you can transfer the Caucasus to the shores of Kerulen and Onon, your historical homeland.
                1. mariusdeayeraleone
                  mariusdeayeraleone April 6 2018 23: 40
                  +3
                  Wake up guy! Zombie Armen radar, irradiated you))
              2. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
                Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 6 2018 16: 45
                +1
                Quote: Bakht
                alien people in Karabakh

                Let it be, you know that Where we live is, Yalan Duniya! True pleasure, as well as the continued existence of Our Immortal Souls, is in the Kingdom of God !!!
        2. mariusdeayeraleone
          mariusdeayeraleone April 6 2018 23: 44
          +4
          The Armenians didn’t have any history, their homeland. They are baseless, they feel good everywhere.
          The western lands of Azerbaijan gave them generosity, without his knowledge. Now it is a tumor in the face of the Caucasus.
      2. andj61
        andj61 April 6 2018 12: 26
        +2
        Quote: Bakht
        Safavids ruled Iran for a long time. And although there are smart people to climb into Wikipedia, the language of the court and nobility of Persia at that time was Azerbaijani.

        Let me note - in fact, the language was called not Azerbaijani, but Turkish. Such a name of the people as “Azerbaijanis” began to be widely used only from the 19th century. In this region, very often two great empires competed - the Persian and the Ottoman. And very often in the interpenetration of cultures. And in Istanbul there were times when it was fashionable to engage in Persian poetry and generally language. And the fact that at the head of the Persian empire - even if not on the throne, but in the elite were erased, there were Türks, this does not raise doubts.
        1. Bakht
          Bakht April 6 2018 13: 13
          +3
          The language was called Turkic Azeri. That is, the Azerbaijani dialect of the Turkic language. And this was the native language of Shah Ismail. The one who went down in history as a classic of Azerbaijani poetry under the name of Khatai.
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 6 2018 21: 06
          +3
          Quote: andj61
          In this region, two great empires very often competed - the Persian and Ottoman

          No, 2 Turkic empires competed on the Ottomans on the one hand, and Safavids, who were replaced by Afshars and Khajars, on the other hand, didn’t smell close to Persian. 2 Turkic peoples fought, acted the same when seizing territories, certain Türkic tribes settled on the outskirts and created a security belt, Do you think Turkmens are Sunnis in Syria and Turkists are Shiites in Iraq? Or were the Qashqais at the other end of Iran ?? Or Kyzylbashi in the center of Kabul and much more.
      3. garnik
        garnik April 6 2018 22: 48
        +1
        Turkic does not mean Azerbaijani. The history of Soviet Azerbaijan began in 1920. And the Sefivids are not Türks.
        1. mariusdeayeraleone
          mariusdeayeraleone April 6 2018 23: 53
          +3
          You do not dishonor yourself with fables! Feed yourself a lie, yourself and others.
          Safavids sent ambassadors to Europe. First name and surname end on the main page ....
          You will never know the truth from you.
          1. garnik
            garnik April 7 2018 07: 37
            +1
            Safavids sent ambassadors to Europe. First name and surname end on the main page ....
            You will never know the truth from you.

            I have a friend, a highland Jew, in Baku his surname ended in oglu, having moved to Russia, he got rid of the graduation, though it cost him a lot of money this reincarnation.
            In Ismail, only the mother was from ak-koyuns, and then half the Christian. Read non-biased sources.
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 7 2018 12: 16
          +2
          Quote: garnik
          Turkic does not mean Azerbaijani

          oh well ??
          Quote: garnik
          And the Sefivids are not Türks.

          It is a pity Shah Ismail Khatai did not know about this, as did the confederation of the Kyzylbash tribes under his command.
    2. Ramzay121
      Ramzay121 April 6 2018 12: 14
      +3
      Ilya, do you know your well-established story well that you talk about the other?
    3. mariusdeayeraleone
      mariusdeayeraleone April 6 2018 23: 35
      +3
      How has anyone? Your Nikolai 1 already rewrote! What mind you had to possess in order to transfer the Albanian free church ... to the Armenians!
      It’s the same, to give the church of all Russia to the hands of the British!
    4. mariusdeayeraleone
      mariusdeayeraleone April 6 2018 23: 56
      +2
      You know the thing here is different! Parting of the countries of the world, pulling a blanket in their direction. And the people are suffering, and so it turns out such a servility in the end.
  9. Shadow shooter
    Shadow shooter April 6 2018 10: 20
    +3
    Quote: Bakht
    Any government in Azerbaijan is obliged to maintain the integrity of the country. And therefore, while the enemy troops are on our territory, war is inevitable. And the "shooters" have nothing to do with it. We love to sell tomatoes, but we are forced to shoot. History teaches that even tomato merchants can become good soldiers. Epaminondas proved this to Agesilaus.

    So, in the person of Azerbaijan, you have already decided that there should be a war on NGOs? With such moods and self-confidence you will definitely get acquainted with Iskander am
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 6 2018 11: 10
      +4
      I didn’t decide. I just want to avoid war. But clashes on the front lines will be necessary.
      Want to bet? Until Maidan takes place in Azerbaijan and Russia, no Iskander will fly to us.
      1. dog breeder
        dog breeder April 6 2018 11: 14
        +2
        I would not even argue with that.
  10. Igor Anatolievich
    Igor Anatolievich April 6 2018 10: 22
    +5
    In the case of aggressive actions on the part of Azerbaijan, from Russia it is necessary to drive market traders directly at the kicks. The huckster and the criminal-lumpen element from this sunny republic. This is scum.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 6 2018 11: 11
      +7
      I saw a lot of scum. One of the varieties is those who smear with one paint all the representatives of the nation. It is called nationalism. Usually ends with fascism. This is just scum ....
  11. Vladimir Avakimov
    Vladimir Avakimov April 6 2018 11: 33
    +3
    The Israelis work on the principle of both ours and yours. Then they receive from everyone and yell "about some kind of injustice in relation to the" chosen people "?!?!?!
    1. Abrascha
      Abrascha April 6 2018 12: 58
      0
      Well, what do you want from the "poor Jews"? The country is small, there are no resources, I have to somehow turn around.))))
  12. Shadow shooter
    Shadow shooter April 6 2018 11: 47
    +1
    Quote: andj61
    Quote: Shadow Shooter
    And to demolish Azerbaijan for the VKS and Iskander will not be difficult.

    Americans during the WWII used massive bombardment - both Germany and Japan. At the same time, cities were often completely destroyed, and the consequences of such raids were similar to the use of nuclear weapons and were distinguished by huge casualties among the civilian population. Only these bombings did not lead to the surrender of either Germany or Japan - it was necessary to defeat the armed forces of these countries. So missile strikes and the use of air force will not lead to anything. And no one will fight with Azerbaijan. As well as Azerbaijan, it is not going to conquer Armenia. And Russia has obligations to Armenia solely in the event of a threat to its generally recognized territory. Yes, and it's stupid - to fight. Need to negotiate. hi

    I agree with you. But when someone rubs everyone that this war is a sacred duty for them, and someone’s blood must be shed, it’s better to make sure their blood is shed.
  13. 100ik
    100ik April 6 2018 11: 59
    +2
    Interestingly, did Shushi lose out of philanthropy?
  14. Abrascha
    Abrascha April 6 2018 12: 55
    +1
    The only real and effective way for Russia to close the "Karabakh issue" is to stupidly include Karabakh in the Russian Federation. As in that parable, “A lion came, put his paw on an antelope and said“ It's mine, ”after which the jackal, the hyena, and the leopard suddenly all calmed down sharply.” All other options are just a war postponed for a while in the region.
  15. konstantin68
    konstantin68 April 6 2018 13: 20
    +3
    Quote: Bakht
    Armenians are an alien people in Karabakh

    This is already too much, sorry.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 6 2018 13: 39
      +3
      The textbook of ethnogenesis "Not a single nation in the world lives in the territory that is called native."
  16. Kremlevets
    Kremlevets April 6 2018 16: 14
    +1
    Quote: Bakht
    The key lies in Yerevan.

    Well, go and pick it up, why smear the snot
  17. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
    Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 6 2018 16: 35
    +2
    In general, we can only partially agree with the respected Author. You do not need to have 7 spans in your forehead to predict this misalliance short life full of contradictions. It’s difficult for me to understand Russia how it will be able to reach agreement in the long-suffering Syria, Hyena and the Snake?! Moreover, these fellow travelers to the first "policeman". Each pursues its own goals. Leadership in the World of Islam, to tidy up all that remains of Syria to its full paws. Besides, do not discount, Israel. This union is not comme il faut from the point of view of Israel .
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  19. Yeraz
    Yeraz April 6 2018 21: 11
    +3
    Let’s see what Russia will do when the Mgamoshny pro-Russian Aliyev leaves, or the Western countries decide to blow up this region. The goals could be different shakiness of Iran, shakiness of Russia, the pulling of Turkey.
    And the status quo-harmful to Russia itself will be given to it most of all. It is one thing to have Syria far from its borders, and another thing is its borders, not with the quiet and calm Altai, but with the explosive Northern Caucasus whose inhabitants went to Syria en masse fight, and here you don’t need to go, the fire of war is near you go with a little match and that’s it.
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny April 7 2018 00: 01
      +2
      I am surprised at you. You talk about how "Russia will be bad." Reason and rejoice. Have you thought (if you have anything) about what will happen to Az5rbaidzhan? This is all of you, infringed. Think about yourself, we will think about Russia ourselves.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 7 2018 12: 20
        +4
        [
        Quote: Okolotochny
        Reason and rejoice. Have you thought (if you have anything) about what will happen to Az5rbaidzhan?

        For starters, LEARN to learn. It is written to have Syria at its borders. This means that Azerbaijan will turn into Syria, with destroyed cities, refugees, anarchy, etc.
        Quote: Okolotochny
        Think about yourself, we will think about Russia ourselves.

        because we are thinking and talking about ourselves, we need to solve this problem as soon as possible, because this fire not only burns us, but also those who do not want to solve this problem, but rather interfere.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny April 12 2018 00: 31
          +1
          Read in Russian, learn it yourself. Tell your oriental delights in the markets. For those who are only interested in how bad Russia will be. Before thinking about Russia (about prices in markets, conjuncture laughing ), think fool if there is anything about what you write about your country. How do you write with a threat? Have you thought that you are threatening Rossit with the chaos of Azerbaijan? Or is there where to rinse off? To Moscow or to St. Petersburg. You, the inhabitants of the outskirts of the former USSR, are inferiority complex. You will be inferior while you go to Russia, but at the same time earn money by trading in its markets. Do you have anything besides oil and muck?
          1. Ramzay121
            Ramzay121 April 17 2018 10: 49
            0
            Quote: Okolotochny
            Tell your oriental delights in the markets.

            Better tell about your adventures in the market, what happened to you there, what did you do? You can’t forget about the market in any way, in every comment you recall. Maybe it's time to turn to a psychologist?
  20. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 April 6 2018 21: 25
    +2
    Quote: just EXPL
    there was no such thing. Armenians in the Caucasus lived long before you appeared there, it was you who came and occupied the land.
    but centuries have passed since then, and the Armenians and other peoples do not recall this. but they lived in Karabakh a very long time, and all the Afghans who you invited as Muslims came to each other, started a cultural exchange and all that. only these "guests" are called there not for the sake of cultural exchange, but for provocations. they began to slaughter Armenians. the Armenians have become sweet at you. you are not knowing why the Armenians got better at you began to answer them.
    that is, neither you nor the Armenians began. and those whom you invited to your place.
    it was already in documentaries, with the American ones, they described where the CIA went about mujahideen after the collapse of the USSR, they sent them everywhere where it was necessary to rekindle the conflict between Muslims and other religions, in Chechnya, they and the Arabs were singing and the most cruel to prisoners (those who cut off their heads alive) were also Afghans.
    and Bosnia is the same thing, and they also wanted to set fire to India, by the way, about the same scenario was recently in Myanmar, there the newcomers began to cut non-Muslims, and they answered the Rohingya, and it began.
    the scenario is EVERYWHERE the same. EVERYWHERE, like the color revolutions, but works with everyone.

    Dear, take it easy with these Afghans. Even the Armenians write, namely Aris Ghazinyan in the Regnum newspaper in an article dated November 28, 2015 that Afghans arrived in Azerbaijan in May 1993. And you settled, Afghans, and Afghans ... Yes, and there were not many of them. Ours say 300, Armenians out of their habit of multiplying by at least 3 and 4 everything that concerns Azerbaijanis say there were up to 1000 of them.
    By that time, all the main events had already happened and the front line had taken shape, which now basically remains.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 6 2018 23: 36
      +2
      There were no more than 100 people. This is maximum. And after a couple of months they left. They didn’t solve anything there ....
  21. skif02
    April 6 2018 21: 28
    +1
    Quote: Bakht
    The textbook of ethnogenesis "Not a single nation in the world lives in the territory that is called native."

    It is not true, archaeological finds clearly show that Slavs are autochthonous in Central Russia
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 7 2018 00: 22
      +3
      Interesting .... But what about the "great migration of peoples" And the Bulgars, Finno-Ugric peoples, Scythians, finally. Are these all Slavs? From what century?
      About the South Caucasus. For almost a hundred years, the Arab-Khazar wars have been going on here. The indigenous population was almost completely either destroyed or stolen into slavery. Huge population movements were also practiced. After these wars of the 7-8 centuries, there was almost no autochthonous population left here. Neither Albanians nor Armenians. Nobody. Turkic settlers penetrated the South Caucasus just from Khazaria.
  22. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 April 6 2018 21: 40
    +5
    I remember in Armenia, too, the NATO conference took place once, but no one howled and didn’t throw such a tantrum. Also, by the way, under an innocuous name it took place) Science, security, etc.) Yes, but Armenians regularly go to Washington at a NATO conference. The last one was last year, if I'm not mistaken - “In compliance with ethical standards”))
    About what ethical norms they discussed, God alone knows) The Armenians themselves write: “We will wait for the reaction of our strategic“ partner, ”Hraparak newspaper writes. Partner in quotation marks) http://www.tert.am/ru/news/2017/09/13/hraparak/24
    81754

    A reaction followed. Maybe there is no connection, but the sequence of events is interesting. Right after that, the Armenians received another loan for weapons from Russia. Some kind of causal relationship is broken) These NATO conferences are beneficial. Well, Tacitus wrote that "the Armenians, with their two-faced behavior, invited the armed forces of one or the other side." Tacitus Cornelius. Compositions. t. 2, St. Petersburg, 1887, s
    Indeed, it is interesting that the Armenians actually discuss it there? Maybe the Iskanders have already sold or transferred to the Pentagon through their lobby as C 300 Cypriots)) Although ... As one literary character used to say, what kind of jokes were in the reconstruction period ...
    And which Israelis have to do with the NATO conference? Why draw such far-reaching conclusions? Far-fetched) Kazakhstan bought Israeli weapons, mortars, MLRS, UAVs and others. The Russian Ministry of Defense bought 12 unmanned aerial vehicles in Israel. The same types as Azerbaijan. Moreover, it was stated that the Russian military hopes, having studied the Israeli experience, to create their own similar machines. Which is what Azerbaijan is doing, by the way. Presumably, the Israelis gave some instruction to their Russian counterparts before the Russian military began to exploit these drones. What gentlemen the Israelis were preparing in Russia for the assault on South Ossetia, only on the reverse side?)) Why immediately draw a stupid analogy with Georgia? This article is similar to some next denunciation. Secondly, why should Azerbaijan wait so many more years? 30 has almost passed. Maybe another hundred years? One fifth of our country is under the enemy’s heel, and they kind of pacify us, maybe in Syria or Crimea, too, we had to talk, or to the domestic one, after Stalingrad, we had to sit at the negotiating table with the Nazis? Why were they driven to Berlin then? Or is it just for us such a world with an aggressor on our land and at our expense? These are not barmels on carts in faraway Syria, across 6 borders. These are specific occupiers on our land, who expelled and brutally murdered the Azerbaijani population in Karabakh and purely Azerbaijani-populated areas of Azerbaijan. And in fact, how much can you frighten these Iskanders? Some kind of North Korean solidarity, by God.
    Yes, about the NATO military, laboratory and so on. I came across a hysterical video: “NATO bases in Russia. This is a betrayal. ” This is about the NATO jump airfield in Ulyanovsk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz94fTmfiY
    Funny of course. Cargo is being transported to Afghanistan, so be it. But ... the leap is not a leap, but NATO technicians and navigators are probably still there). So that citizens are all relative, sometimes it’s useful to look back at your garden.
  23. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 April 6 2018 22: 25
    +1
    Quote: Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
    Quote: Bakht
    alien people in Karabakh

    Let it be, you know that Where we live is, Yalan Duniya! True pleasure, as well as the continued existence of Our Immortal Souls, is in the Kingdom of God !!!

    By the way, I agree with you.
  24. icant007
    icant007 April 6 2018 22: 53
    +3
    I agree. The initiator of the Karabakh conflict was Yerevan, or someone behind it. In general, I was always offended by Azerbaijan, which was undeservedly slandered by the Soviet media back in 88-91. On the side of Armenia was virtually the entire journalistic corps of the USSR. But this is understandable. Armenia is well represented in Russian scientific and public circles. Armenia was the first to arm itself and invade the territory of Azerbaijan. Already in 1990, the Armenian National Army was actively operating, that there were no attacks on army depots. And the invasion of the Kazakh region of Azerbaijan in August 1990? Azerbaijan created its Ministry of Defense only a year later. Yes, of course, Azerbaijan also had armed groups, but the Armenian militants clearly dominated the reports of those times. As I remember in the textbook on the Geography of Azerbaijan, the population of Karabakh is 165 thousand, of which about 120 thousand are Armenians. So what? Was it necessary to start a war because of this? So let's follow this logic to give Armenia the Armenian regions of Rostov-on-Don or the neighboring Armenian villages - Chaltyr, Leninanavan, etc. .....
  25. mariusdeayeraleone
    mariusdeayeraleone April 6 2018 23: 48
    +2
    Good article. The author indicated one part of the coin, there is another.
    I mean that you need to bargain well with the world while they pass through your street.
    Personally, my opinion is that states such as Armenia and Georgia in the Caucasus are temporary. Over time, they will disappear, what is the point of their existence.
  26. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson April 7 2018 03: 32
    0
    Not this way. Russia and Iran have long been allies (only unofficial).
  27. mariusdeayeraleone
    mariusdeayeraleone April 7 2018 16: 30
    +1
    Quote: garnik
    Safavids sent ambassadors to Europe. First name and surname end on the main page ....
    You will never know the truth from you.

    I have a friend, a highland Jew, in Baku his surname ended in oglu, having moved to Russia, he got rid of the graduation, though it cost him a lot of money this reincarnation.
    In Ismail, only the mother was from ak-koyuns, and then half the Christian. Read non-biased sources.


    Ismail harmed Islam and Azerbaijan more than anyone else!
    If he were alive., So that all the Armenians of the world would * force him!
    Enemy of own people.!
  28. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion April 7 2018 17: 33
    +2
    Quote: sefevi
    I did not understand what the article was about? Karabakh belongs to us under ANY law, and ALL states of the world recognize it for us. Sooner or later, the war will be, it is inevitable, and to drag someone here is from the evil one. America region is uninteresting. Turkey was, is and will be for us in any situation. Moscow is trying to maintain the status quo, because through the conflict it holds both states for Faberge, but this does not mean that Russia will fight for this piece of land with anyone. The alignment may change, and one day in Russia they will understand that it is better to be friends with Azerbaijan than to have it in enemies because of Armenians living in a completely different country. Moreover, the maintenance of Armenia itself costs the Russian treasury quite expensive (free weapons, almost free loans, the rotation of which is not expected, etc.)


    I will disappoint you. Armenia is in the Collective Security Treaty Organization and Russia will be obliged to protect it. But it won’t come to war. I assure you that the Kremlin has prepared action plans in the event of an aggravation of the situation. Yes and another. In Karabakh, the deployment of Russian peacekeepers is likely in the near future.

    Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan, answering a question from the German Deutsche Welle regarding the proposal to bring peacekeepers to Nagorno-Karabakh, said that Armenia had never spoken against the separation of the opposing forces by the peacekeepers in the Karabakh conflict zone. In turn, the head of the faction of the ruling Republican Party of Armenia, Vahram Baghdasaryan, stated that there was already a proposal to bring peacekeepers to Nagorno-Karabakh, but did not specify which peacekeepers could be involved.

    I think everyone understands where the peacekeepers will come from. Russia will just have another military base. Placing there even a battalion of Russian fighters will guarantee that Azerbaijan will have to completely forget about its plans. So it’s better to agree on a peaceful, rather than rattle, weapon.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 7 2018 19: 53
      +4
      There will be no peacekeepers. To understand this, you need to look at the globe.
  29. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn April 7 2018 17: 56
    +1
    Okolotochny,
    B-44 ohm and further, Stalin practically did not liberate the territory of the USSR, but made a reserve for the quiet life of future generations, tailoring a map of Europe for himself. Sorry to fit in.
    1. Bakht
      Bakht April 7 2018 19: 56
      +2
      Maybe. By the time the Red Army reached the borders of the USSR, it was already known about the atrocities of the Nazis. It was clear that millions of victims left no options. So Stalin could no longer stop. The slogan was "kill the beast in his den"
  30. Bakht
    Bakht April 7 2018 19: 52
    +2
    Okolotochny,
    There was no sarcasm. It seemed to you with a binge. Read carefully and comprehend what you read. I wrote that the Western Allies were very afraid that Stalin would stop at the border.
    In Casablanca, at the insistence of Roosevelt, a decision was made on "unconditional surrender of Germany." That is, give up without reservation, and then we will decide what to do with you. That was in January 1943. Stalin refused to support this demand. In November 1943, this issue was once again discussed in Tehran. Stalin once again tried to convince Roosevelt to remove this demand. But he did not object to the two allies. The principle of "unconditional surrender" was signed by the USSR only 9 months later in November 1943.
    There, in Tehran, Roosevelt proposed dismembering Germany and creating 5 German states on its territory. And accept the Morgenthau plan. By the way, it was precisely the Morgenthau plan that the Americans carried out in 1945-46. Stalin evaded the answer, but already in Yalta he said that the USSR does not support the idea of ​​fragmenting Germany and reiterates that Germany should be a single country.
    Learn the story, our mother. And then you will not be a mankurt.
  31. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 7 2018 22: 25
    +1
    Quote: icant007
    I agree. The initiator of the Karabakh conflict was Yerevan, or someone behind it. In general, I was always offended by Azerbaijan, which was undeservedly slandered by the Soviet media back in 88-91. On the side of Armenia was virtually the entire journalistic corps of the USSR. But this is understandable. Armenia is well represented in Russian scientific and public circles. Armenia was the first to arm itself and invade the territory of Azerbaijan. Already in 1990, the Armenian National Army was actively operating, that there were no attacks on army depots. And the invasion of the Kazakh region of Azerbaijan in August 1990? Azerbaijan created its Ministry of Defense only a year later. Yes, of course, Azerbaijan also had armed groups, but the Armenian militants clearly dominated the reports of those times. As I remember in the textbook on the Geography of Azerbaijan, the population of Karabakh is 165 thousand, of which about 120 thousand are Armenians. So what? Was it necessary to start a war because of this? So let's follow this logic to give Armenia the Armenian regions of Rostov-on-Don or the neighboring Armenian villages - Chaltyr, Leninanavan, etc. .....


    Poor-wise Azerbaijanis. So poor and harmless that they staged a massacre of Armenians with armatures, knives, bats, and even with lists from the housing office in their hands. Ay-ah-ah-ah how insulting for Azerbaijan.
    1. icant007
      icant007 April 8 2018 10: 35
      +1
      Forget that among the rioters was an ethnic Armenian who killed 5 people?
      1. garnik
        garnik April 8 2018 11: 38
        0
        And who told you that? Half-breed who participated in the rape. And on which they try to hang all the sins of several hundred mra.zey. He served time, unfortunately alive.
  32. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 7 2018 22: 26
    +2
    Quote: Bakht
    Well preserved from the 13th century. I dare you to note that I was in Karabakh and saw many churches there. Albanian. He even lived in the village of Sons Kilsya (the destroyed Church). Armenians are an alien people in Karabakh. But even this does not give the right to redistribute the territories. Read Buchanan Secession Issues. Recognized authority in matters of self-determination. The weakest argument is historical justice.
    Tell me, on the historical scene of the 13th century there were US states, Russia, maybe historical justice must be restored with respect to the Mongolian state? Or restore the 19th century Habsburg empire. What about the 18th century Ottoman Empire?
    This is the weakest argument that is given here.


    Armenians are newcomers, and the descendants of nomadic Seljuks and Oghuzs are indigenous people, huh? Bravo.
  33. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 7 2018 22: 29
    +2
    Quote: Bakht
    Learn from the movies? Stay with your opinion. Wrong, but mine. An eyewitness to these events is me. The Afghans were in Baku. I can even name the year and where I spoke with them. They did not make any weather here. The conflict began in the summer of 1987. But arguing with a person who believes in "documentary" films is just time to lose. By the way, then in 1987 I was in Karabakh, Kelbajar and Lachin. I don’t have to make a fool of me here.


    And at the front, the Afghan mercenaries did not do the weather? As well as Ukrainian hired flyers? Shamil Basaev did not do the weather either. He arrived, fought for a week, and got off home, making sure that you are fighters, like sweets from bitumen.
  34. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 7 2018 22: 32
    +1
    Quote: andj61
    Quote: Bakht
    The situation with Karabakh is, of course, intolerant. But the key to the decision does not lie in Moscow or Washington. The key lies in Yerevan.

    The key still lies in two places - in Yerevan and Baku. If the key is in Yerevan, then you think that there is no reason to talk at all - let, they say, the Armenians clean up their generally recognized borders - and that’s it! But this approach is not constructive. After all, it is clear that Yerevan simply cannot do this. Need to negotiate.
    Yerevan has something to offer for the postponed 50-100 years status of Karabakh - a return of the occupied territories of Azerbaijan. Yerevan only needs to agree to joint "temporary" management of Karabakh together with Azerbaijan, plus providing a transport corridor from Armenia to Karabakh. Baku has something to get - here and now - for its consent to this.
    So there is an opportunity hi reach an agreement.


    Right now, how do we agree with them. With a "civilized" and "tolerant" people. And then how.

    http://noev-kovcheg.ru/mag/2016-06/5437.html
  35. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 7 2018 22: 33
    +1
    Quote: Bakht
    If we do not calm down, then we will return everything ours. It will be so. But the men of Japan are satisfied with the current state of affairs. Armeni is the losing side. Those who are smarter in Armenia understand this. But ... propaganda prevents them from realizing the whole situation as a whole.


    What smoked?
  36. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 7 2018 22: 35
    +4
    Quote: sefevi
    I did not understand what the article was about? Karabakh belongs to us under ANY law, and ALL states of the world recognize it for us. Sooner or later, the war will be, it is inevitable, and to drag someone here is from the evil one. America region is uninteresting. Turkey was, is and will be for us in any situation. Moscow is trying to maintain the status quo, because through the conflict it holds both states for Faberge, but this does not mean that Russia will fight for this piece of land with anyone. The alignment may change, and one day in Russia they will understand that it is better to be friends with Azerbaijan than to have it in enemies because of Armenians living in a completely different country. Moreover, the maintenance of Armenia itself costs the Russian treasury quite expensive (free weapons, almost free loans, the rotation of which is not expected, etc.)


    Do you think Russia does not understand that if Karabakh gives you, you will immediately rush to NATO, under the wing of the Turks? Or Iran does not understand that by “returning” (reading to read) Karabakh, the mustachioed-nosed sultan will turn his vile face towards the so-called "South Azerbaijan"?
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto April 7 2018 22: 41
      +2
      I even honestly read your conversation with an accent! .....



      If serious. I just can’t understand why you are so biting with each other there? What is the problem then? What kind of misfortune is this? What is not shared then?
      When the union was friends ......
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      1. garnik
        garnik April 8 2018 11: 42
        0
        Sorry for the reptilians or get a ban. You are not on YouTube.
    3. Ramzay121
      Ramzay121 April 8 2018 13: 08
      0
      Quote: Scumbags_Turks
      Do you think Russia does not understand that if Karabakh gives you, you will immediately rush to NATO, under the wing of the Turks?

      Interesting admission), can you answer who you are in this case in this conflict? I think so too)
  37. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 7 2018 22: 38
    0
    Quote: just EXPL
    no one should be demolished at all, neither Azerbaijan nor Armenia.
    a bad world is better than a good quarrel. perhaps once again all countries will unite into one super country and then in general the reason will disappear. but for now these are vain deaths and vain tears of mothers, widows and orphans.


    Right now, we run and stumble to unite with Russia.
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto April 7 2018 23: 34
      +3
      Right now, we run and stumble to unite with Russia

      Who touches you at all? Do not want do not unite! Can you just make less noise?
      Everybody understood everything - you freak out what kind of free and independent, for God's sake live as you want, Russia and where? Do not run or stumble. Can I just stop hysteria?
      Decided to take an example from Ukraine or the Baltic countries? There, too, for the last 27 years they have been living wild Russophobia and fears that they are about to be captured ...
      Do you want to get so fucked up too?
      Understand a simple thing - you, as a country of Russia, didn’t dig into figs! Live as you can.
      Or now, without screaming with an eye on Russia, has something somehow become lonely?
  38. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 7 2018 23: 40
    +1
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Right now, we run and stumble to unite with Russia

    Who touches you at all? Do not want do not unite! Can you just make less noise?
    Everybody understood everything - you freak out what kind of free and independent, for God's sake live as you want, Russia and where? Do not run or stumble. Can I just stop hysteria?
    Decided to take an example from Ukraine or the Baltic countries? There, too, for the last 27 years they have been living wild Russophobia and fears that they are about to be captured ...
    Do you want to get so fucked up too?


    Well, who hysteria after that?

    Oh yes, we should have kissed your armpits for the offensive weapons in the 2 divisions that you shipped to Baku, knowing that they would shoot at us. This is despite the fact that the Americans and Germans did not even want to sell armored cars to the Sultanate. Is this alliance in your understanding?
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto April 7 2018 23: 45
      +1
      Well, who hysteria after that?
      winked
      Well, yes ... smiled - really - jerked slightly :)

      And as for the armored cars, I do not know honestly .... I must read.
      I’m just saying that for some reason everyone should not go about their business and stop looking back. History, of course, needs to be known and remembered, but just not brought to senility. request
  39. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 7 2018 23: 42
    0
    Quote: DEZINTO
    I even honestly read your conversation with an accent! .....



    If serious. I just can’t understand why you are so biting with each other there? What is the problem then? What kind of misfortune is this? What is not shared then?
    When the union was friends ......


    So that you, God forgive me, have been slaughtered for 500 years. Then we would know what the problem is. Intellectual.
    1. mariusdeayeraleone
      mariusdeayeraleone April 8 2018 11: 00
      0
      Who cut you for 500 years?
      1. Bakht
        Bakht April 8 2018 11: 43
        +1
        In 1780, in a report, Suvorov was informed that under the rule of the Persian khans, the Armenians were oppressed and exploited, and most of them fled to Turkey, since the Armenians in Turkey lived better than in Persia, and in relation to Russia “many Armenians, -
        Lynch writes, “They go so far as to openly prefer the Turkish government.”
        In 1821, when Gassan Khan led prisoners from the Kars region and captured Armenians were released by Agassi, the latter asked his co-religionists to move to Russian territory, the Armenians refused and returned back to Turkey, Khach.Abovyan tells. Transition of Armenians to
        Turkey took place in 1795. In the XVII century, according to the description of Hakob Carnezi, exemplary order prevailed in Turkey, and the author regrets that in the Christian states there was not what existed in the Ottoman Empire, in the country of Muslims. (...]
        “Their families,” the Russian official complains, “are in Turkish skewers, to whom they transfer the wealth of this (that is, Russian) land abroad. “In Gyumyush Khan,” writes Baron Wrangel to Baron Rosen in 1835, “the Turkish authorities do not render the Greeks and Armenians
        no harassment of worship. Peaceful trade is in their hands - the Greeks and Armenians. ” “Christians,” writes Marx, “enjoy greater religious freedom in Turkey than in Austria and Russia.”

        B.A. Boryan "Armenia, international diplomacy and the USSR"
    2. Ramzay121
      Ramzay121 April 8 2018 13: 13
      0
      Quote: Scumbags_Turks
      So that you, God forgive me, have been slaughtered for 500 years. Then we would know what the problem is.

      It’s interesting, as it were, to put it mildly, what happened in the end?
  40. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 7 2018 23: 52
    +1
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Well, who hysteria after that?
    winked
    Well, yes ... smiled - really - jerked slightly :)

    And as for the armored cars, I do not know honestly .... I must read.
    I’m just saying that for some reason everyone wouldn’t go about their business and stop looking back. History, of course, needs to be known and remembered, but just not brought to senility. request


    So read it. Should the Armenians squeal with joy from the Sunreams and T-90 sold to our enemies? You can argue that they say this is the result of flirting with the European Union. But dear, you started shipping weapons back in 2010, and a possible agreement between Yerevan and Brussels surfaced if I am not mistaken in 2013-2014. Would you like it if we (the Armenians) say we ourselves came up with something innovative and revolutionary in rocket science and immediately sold it to Britain, your potential adversary in Europe, hiding behind the phrases: "Guys, are we not so different?"
  41. motorized rifle
    motorized rifle April 8 2018 03: 59
    +1
    A lot of emotions, a little constructive, namely, discussion of the situation. I honestly do not really understand this issue, but general trends can somehow be identified as the best strategy for each side.
    For Americans and Israelis: I agree with the author of the article, and the United States and Israel would like to control the Middle East themselves, will the conflict in Karabakh help them in this? Yes, it seems. Then they will play on it. Will they be able to violate the principle of "vassal of my vassal, not my vassal" and bypass Turkey, let's see.
    For Armenia, well, everything is simple in my opinion, to hold the defense and pray that it would be quiet.
    For Azerbaijan, Aliyev has a great chance to change the situation in his favor (well, at least somehow). Judge for yourself, let’s say, the senior partners of the parties to the conflict are moving closer, albeit about another country. This makes it possible for Aliyev to initiate some kind of progress. There is a threat to the Turks that others can bypass them in influencing Azerbaijan, here is the desire of Turkey and Russia to strengthen the emerging cooperation and the desire to protect it from unnecessary overloads. No, don’t say this is a chance. Why am I sure that Aliyev will not miss him, but I don’t think he will wave the club and suicide militia against himself, and the Turks, and Iranians, and Russians to please the Americans and Jews. You can do it beautifully. In any case, this is probably a good strategy for Azerbaijan.
    For Russia and Turkey, on the one hand, it will be necessary to support their “wards,” but if they strain, then I think they have the potential for influence, especially since they can influence both sides of the conflict, and this is a serious possibility of it (conflict), to avoid. In general, on the principle of losing as little as possible.
    It’s hard for Iran to say something, but I think it can try to smooth the corners between Turkey and Russia, if any arise, in any case it’s in its interests, it can’t do more, I don’t know.
    We will see how the interested parties act, but the fact that there is an opportunity to somehow advance the Karabakh issue is undoubted. All the same, it is necessary to decide something, if you want, of course, the most important problem is that there is no trust in the conflict between the parties, and without it, no, even the most reasonable plan, will not work. However, at this time, Russia, Turkey and Iran have a very great need for stability in this region (as the United States and Israel have instability), these chances can be caught (C).
  42. Scumbags_Turks
    Scumbags_Turks April 8 2018 09: 19
    +2
    Quote: motorized infantryman
    A lot of emotions, a little constructive, namely, discussion of the situation. I honestly do not really understand this issue, but general trends can somehow be identified as the best strategy for each side.
    For Americans and Israelis: I agree with the author of the article, and the United States and Israel would like to control the Middle East themselves, will the conflict in Karabakh help them in this? Yes, it seems. Then they will play on it. Will they be able to violate the principle of "vassal of my vassal, not my vassal" and bypass Turkey, let's see.
    For Armenia, well, everything is simple in my opinion, to hold the defense and pray that it would be quiet.
    For Azerbaijan, Aliyev has a great chance to change the situation in his favor (well, at least somehow). Judge for yourself, let’s say, the senior partners of the parties to the conflict are moving closer, albeit about another country. This makes it possible for Aliyev to initiate some kind of progress. There is a threat to the Turks that others can bypass them in influencing Azerbaijan, here is the desire of Turkey and Russia to strengthen the emerging cooperation and the desire to protect it from unnecessary overloads. No, don’t say this is a chance. Why am I sure that Aliyev will not miss him, but I don’t think he will wave the club and suicide militia against himself, and the Turks, and Iranians, and Russians to please the Americans and Jews. You can do it beautifully. In any case, this is probably a good strategy for Azerbaijan.
    For Russia and Turkey, on the one hand, it will be necessary to support their “wards,” but if they strain, then I think they have the potential for influence, especially since they can influence both sides of the conflict, and this is a serious possibility of it (conflict), to avoid. In general, on the principle of losing as little as possible.
    It’s hard for Iran to say something, but I think it can try to smooth the corners between Turkey and Russia, if any arise, in any case it’s in its interests, it can’t do more, I don’t know.
    We will see how the interested parties act, but the fact that there is an opportunity to somehow advance the Karabakh issue is undoubted. All the same, it is necessary to decide something, if you want, of course, the most important problem is that there is no trust in the conflict between the parties, and without it, no, even the most reasonable plan, will not work. However, at this time, Russia, Turkey and Iran have a very great need for stability in this region (as the United States and Israel have instability), these chances can be caught (C).
    с


    Stability in the region huh? They stuffed the enemies of their allies, and began to talk about stability. From the series "There is no money, but you hold on"
  43. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion April 8 2018 13: 09
    +1
    Quote: Bakht
    There will be no peacekeepers. To understand this, you need to look at the globe.


    What is wrong with your globe? You can look at Transnistria for example.
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  45. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 April 9 2018 00: 06
    +1
    Quote: Scumbags_Turks
    Quote: mariusdeayeraleone
    Who cut you for 500 years?


    Has it fallen from the moon?

    When you - Armenians massively slaughtered Turks, Azerbaijanis, Kurds, etc. it’s in the order of things, you can "long-suffering", and when you were hit in the ears for these "pranks" in your ears - it was "cut," genocide, high, scream and howl ...
  46. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov April 9 2018 03: 25
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    Hmm ... 2 days ago, I read how Kvachkov and our Specialists of the GRU put out a complete massacre in Tajikistan, and brought it into the mainstream of a peaceful country. And now he is sitting.
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  50. FLOOD
    FLOOD April 12 2018 09: 57
    0
    [/ quote] It is clear that the seminar, which ended on April 5, was held for the Azerbaijani military, for whom "peacekeeping" is perceived quite peculiarly - like the capture of Karabakh[b] [/ b]. [quote]

    Are we adding fuel to the fire again?))) If Russia recognizes Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan, then what does the word "capture" mean? Not tired of stirring up?