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Forced to live near rotting fish. Captain "Nord" - about the humiliation of the SBU

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The crew of the Crimean fishing vessel “Nord” arrested in Ukraine is subjected to constant humiliation and harassment by the staff of the SBU and border guards, reports RIA News statement by captain Vladimir Gorbenko.




We are forced to live near five tons of rotting fish. Constantly breathing poisoned air. Only today was the first removal of the tank with waste, but the contract was not concluded. State Border Service declared that the Ukrainian state provided us with everything necessary for life, but this is not true,
says Gorbenko’s appeal.

In addition, a few days ago, "SBU officers sealed the hold with working electrical equipment." The crew is not able to verify the safety of the instruments, therefore, according to him, “a fire may start on the ship at any moment”.

Judging by the way they treat us, no one will save us,
noted the captain.

He also said that after the arrest of the vessel, he and another sailor suffered a hypertensive crisis, but they were refused hospitalization.

We were given an injection and given support pills. Nobody even bothered to do tests, a cardiogram. I don't know if I can survive this nightmare,
concluded Gorbenko.

Recall, the Russian vessel "Nord" was detained by Ukrainian border guards 26 March. The fishermen drew up administrative records for violating the sea border and forbade leaving the vessel.

"Nord", delivered to the port of Berdyansk, he was arrested. Moscow is demanding that Kiev return the seized vessel and release the crew.
Photos used:
State Border Guard Service of Ukraine
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  1. Incomprehensible
    Incomprehensible April 4 2018 08: 25
    +24
    Where is our soak in Sartir?
    Amerikosy abduct our fellow citizens and judge at home ... now gangster Ukraine has begun to do the same.
    What's next?!
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 April 4 2018 08: 28
      +25
      Where are our fucking diplomats, as usual snot chew. I laid Kiev on the requirements of Russia with them in a different way. Shame on the authorities who cannot stand up for their citizens.
      1. cniza
        cniza April 4 2018 08: 32
        +24
        That’s the whole indicator of caring for people, and diplomats won’t help, they need a special operation, whatever the case.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A April 4 2018 09: 15
          +16
          Quote: cniza
          That’s the whole indicator of caring for people, and diplomats won’t help, they need a special operation, whatever the case.

          It’s interesting to me - what would America have done “yesterday” if they had skipped their fishing vessel in Berdyansk? The sixth fleet in full force would stand nearby. Least...
          1. Ace Tambourine
            Ace Tambourine April 5 2018 09: 25
            +1
            not at all in full strength ...
            the height of the deck superstructure of aircraft carriers does not allow you to go under the bridge over the Bosphorus
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A April 5 2018 11: 00
              +2
              Quote: Ace Tambourine
              not at all in full strength ...
              the height of the deck superstructure of aircraft carriers does not allow you to go under the bridge over the Bosphorus

              It’s an “exclusive nation” - the bridge would be dismantled for a while ... wassat
      2. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 April 4 2018 08: 40
        +10
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Where are our fucking diplomats, as usual snot chew.


        I believe that you are wrong in this matter. At least in part. It seems that at the dip.level certain steps are still being taken. The only question is that now on the outskirts no one listens to any arguments and until our polite people (or not ours) arrive - the ship and crew will undergo all hardships, deprivations and humiliation.

        The hijacking of our ship is a clear provocation ahead of the FIFA World Cup to further inflate the hysteria regarding Russia,
        1. Spartanez300
          Spartanez300 April 4 2018 08: 48
          +10
          As it turns out, these specific steps are not enough and not enough, but people are treated there like cattle, and for them there is now an hour spent like a week, so you need to use some other more significant levers.
          1. Ushly_bashkort
            Ushly_bashkort April 4 2018 10: 44
            +6
            Here is a classic zugzwang. If we don’t do anything, and we will send the notes of protest, then we look like weaklings, we are organizing a special operation - the aggressors, which Ukrainians have been talking about for so long, and new sanctions. It’s good to whip and whack from the side, but it depends on the will of the country's leadership.
        2. cost 75
          cost 75 April 4 2018 09: 10
          +12
          Quote: Corsair0304
          Quote: Spartanez300
          Where are our fucking diplomats, as usual snot chew.


          I believe that you are wrong in this matter. At least in part. It seems that at the dip.level certain steps are still being taken. The only question is that now on the outskirts no one listens to any arguments and until our polite people (or not ours) arrive - the ship and crew will undergo all hardships, deprivations and humiliation.

          The hijacking of our ship is a clear provocation ahead of the FIFA World Cup to further inflate the hysteria regarding Russia,

          How many more mischief do we have to endure for the sake of this championship in which we don’t have anything to shine. Maybe it’s just worth closing the Kerch Strait for ships going to the ports of Ukraine until the ship and crew are released.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day April 4 2018 11: 35
            +3
            Quote: kos 75
            How many more craps do we endure for the sake of this championship in which nothing shines for us

            so why do we need this championship?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack April 4 2018 11: 45
              +5
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: kos 75
              How many more craps do we endure for the sake of this championship in which nothing shines for us

              so why do we need this championship?

              And where does the “championship" go here?
        3. Vanek
          Vanek April 4 2018 09: 22
          +5
          Quote: Corsair0304
          nevertheless, certain steps are being taken.


          Certain steps are definitely not enough. wink

          hi
        4. scrap123
          scrap123 April 4 2018 09: 32
          +7
          yes kama needs such a football when his feet are wiped ...
          1. Evgeniy667b
            Evgeniy667b April 4 2018 11: 26
            0
            To hell with this worthless football, other problems above the roof! The same ukropiracy!
        5. astepanov
          astepanov April 4 2018 09: 46
          +5
          Quote: Corsair0304
          It seems that at the dip.level certain steps are still being taken.
          From "certain steps" the crew is neither warm nor cold. Results where? There must be tough (or even very tough - so that it would continue to be inconsequential) actions - of course, if our government feels right and the situation is as we are shown. Now everything looks like a languid imitation of activity.
        6. iouris
          iouris April 4 2018 11: 06
          +1
          Quote: Corsair0304
          a clear provocation ahead of the World Cup

          And if the World Cup will not? Again, it’s going to be some kind of shame. I would like to hear how you would feel about the inaction of your state, being on this vessel. Develop empathy.
      3. venik
        venik April 4 2018 09: 30
        +5
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Where are our fucking diplomats, as usual snot chew

        ========
        Yes, no need to fall on the Foreign Ministry! There is not so simple as it seems .....
        The problem is that the boundaries of territorial waters on the Sea of ​​Azov are still not delimited! This has been going on since the argument around Tuzla. Then (as far back as Kuchma’s presidency, the problem was still not solved, but they decided to consider the Sea of ​​Azov as internal and divide it in half into Exclusive Economic Zones!
        So, according to UkroSMI (the source, of course!), The trawler was detained just in the Ukrainian economic zone, where it conducted "unauthorized" fishing. And this is according to international laws - it allows you to detain the ship ..... Of course, openly boorish attitude towards the detained crew there is no excuse! But here is the very fact of "detention" .... Maybe the reaction of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs was also so "lethargic" ??
        It is hard to believe that a country that did not hesitate to send almost a hundred foreign diplomats (including from the most “influential” countries) “in return” suddenly “slipped” in the “obvious question” !!
        1. helmi8
          helmi8 April 4 2018 10: 17
          +2
          Quote: venik
          The problem is that the boundaries of territorial waters on the Sea of ​​Azov are still not delimited!

          The problem is that the demarcation of the borders between the Russian Federation and Ukraine was not carried out at all, from the word at all. Only in 2014 Ukrainians unilaterally designated something there, but this contradicts all international laws and is not legally recognized. So let them put their complaints about territorial waters into a known place.
          1. iouris
            iouris April 4 2018 11: 10
            0
            Quote: helmi8
            demarcation of borders between the Russian Federation and Ukraine was not carried out at all

            Because it is a front line.
          2. New Year day
            New Year day April 4 2018 11: 43
            +2
            Quote: helmi8
            The problem is

            that in 2004, the Duma and Parliament ratified the Kuchma-Putin treaty on the Sea of ​​Azov, according to which the sea is recognized as internal and with joint management. The coastal zone is 12 mil.water each, and the rest is common. Later, Ukraine itself conducted the border along the Soviet administrative line. Thus, Ukraine "acquired" 50% of the sea. Russia did not recognize this. After 2014, according to our version, Ukraine has only 30% of the sea left, which does not suit them. The map currently looks like this.

            Negotiations are futile. Non-recognition by the UN of Crimea’s accession gives Ukraine the opportunity to be within the framework of international law.
          3. venik
            venik April 4 2018 12: 45
            +4
            Quote: helmi8
            So let them put their complaints about territorial waters into a known place.

            ==========
            So we are not talking about "territorial waters", but about the "economic zone", where any economic activity without a license is FORBIDDEN!
            Here is another matter - the attitude to the detained vessel, and most importantly - to the CREW - frankly boorish (they are considered Ukrainian citizens who have violated something there, then they are Russian citizens who also violated something ... etc. etc. .P.)....
            What to do??
            I’m already far from young, and as they say, “wise” ... But according to my wife’s assurances - “childhood is still playing in the head” - therefore, I can assume that this is a “child’s solution” like “answer”: “Find” to for example, in the Kerch Strait (somewhere north of the construction of the bridge, but "closer to the fairway" - ("sunken during the Second World War") "barge with ammunition" .... And for this, temporarily restrict shipping in the strait, passing ships exclusively to ports RF and vice versa (they say we are ready to answer for these, if "what", and for those who go to foreign ports and from there - "no-ee!"
            "How much to wait?" Well, maybe a week, maybe two, or maybe .... (well, in general, until the incident is resolved ... "
            Well something like that.....
      4. 97110
        97110 April 4 2018 09: 34
        +5
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Shame on the authorities who cannot stand up for their citizens.

        Well, of course. Power is a shame, give ... whom? These "victims" that, the power sent by the Ukrainian fleet? Our fellow citizens still can’t get what happened. That Ukraine is the worst enemy today. Which will go to any, the most terrible, meanness for a second without hesitation, there would only be a team from America. Since the age of 14, I have been observing that this doesn’t reach our fellow citizens. My nephew got married, she took the girl from Donbass. Well, the war, what is not clear? They go to each other themselves, parents, they beat with their eyes ... I say, take it to you, then fill out the documents - they don’t understand. Well, lucky the DNI settled there. They live in Rostov now. And these two Crimean border guards who flouted over the documents on education and got a very decent time? What should all power decide? In power in a capitalist state, people must solve actual problems: increase the percentage of profit on capital for the bourgeoisie and, if possible, receive a commission for this. Nowhere and nothing about the safety of the staff is not said, in the end, women give birth to new ones. Moreover, the rest of the proletariat is economically interested in reducing its number — the salary is higher for scarce specialists.
      5. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad April 4 2018 13: 18
        +1
        It seems that here and there, aggressive tricks are taken by surprise. And after each such trick, our political leadership needs some time to restore its balance. It is surprising that little is thought out in advance. Really it was impossible to assume that such a gangster provocation could happen in the Sea of ​​Azov at any moment? If we continue to show our "unprecedented peacefulness," then how soon they will begin to fire at our border territories.
      6. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 April 5 2018 13: 59
        -1
        A claim for damage to the courts of The Hague and others, a fairly correct clue, and take full advantage. Only when our Foreign Ministry near Laverman-Lavrov, with daughters in the United States, clearly there will be no progress ...
    2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich April 4 2018 08: 28
      +4
      Sailors need to hold on. And this is the vessel on which Ukrainian prikonniks captured the North Kerch seiner in the Sea of ​​Azov with a captain, 8 fishermen and a female cook.


      1. vorobey
        vorobey April 4 2018 08: 35
        +7
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        And this is the vessel on which the Ukrainian prikonniks captured the Kerch seiner “Nord” in the Sea of ​​Azov with a captain, 8 fishermen and a female cook.


        there is a suspicion that an emergency. with this vessel will happen soon ... the Sea of ​​Azov is small, shallow .. and even hell knows who you will run into in the fog ..
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 4 2018 08: 46
        +3
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        And this is that dish

        Is there a pirate flag in the top photo? We must arm the fishermen.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey April 4 2018 09: 07
          +9
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          And this is that dish

          Is there a pirate flag in the top photo? We must arm the fishermen.


          Volodya inappropriately fishermen to arm .. otherwise they will have no time to catch fish ..

          The agreement between the Government of Russia and the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine on measures to ensure the safety of navigation in the Sea of ​​Azov and the Kerch Strait of March 20, 2012 develops the Ukrainian-Russian peacetime agreements. In connection with the actual change in the status quo, the claims of the Russian Federation with regard to the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov are likely to increase. On March 21, 2014, the Russian Foreign Ministry (Lavrov) announced that the Kerch Strait, after the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation, is no longer the subject of negotiations with Ukraine on the demarcation of the Black Sea and the Sea of ​​Azov.



          Moreover, the organization of shipping in the Kerch Strait will apparently be controlled exclusively by Russia, and the passage of Ukrainian vessels and third-flag vessels to the sea ports of the Sea of ​​Azov will become the subject of Russian legislation.


          there are departments that should do this seriously ... and as for provocations ... no matter how prepared, no one is safe from a bite of a hamster or a black-headed turd ..

          By the way, therefore, Ukrainians are trying not to terminate the friendship and cooperation agreement with Russia ..

          Ukrainians, either by meager thinking or by thoughtlessness, themselves set a precedent and gave Russia carte blanche for Azov and the Kerch Strait ..
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 4 2018 09: 34
            +4
            Quote: vorobey
            there are departments that should do this seriously.

            This is all true. But they still have a rag with Jolly Roger on the dish. wink
            1. vorobey
              vorobey April 4 2018 09: 50
              +4
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              But they still have a rag with Jolly Roger on the dish


              precisely because there are still no borders in the Sea of ​​Azov ... and now there will be .. and the Navy patrol boats will be .. and this Ukrainian frog-frog no longer sticks out of the reeds ..
    3. 11 black
      11 black April 4 2018 09: 39
      +3
      Quote: Incomprehensible
      Amerikosy kidnap our fellow citizens and judge at home ...

      Well, and how, in your opinion, should we protect our citizens outside the Russian Federation, where there is no our sovereignty, but there is US influence? Within Russia, the state guarantees protection, but if you are outside of Russia, in the zone of influence of the United States, how can you be protected?
      Quote: Incomprehensible
      now gangster Ukraine has begun to do the same.

      So, you have to wean them from this practice. Unfortunately, most likely, no one will go to the power operation to free Nord. Even the Americans, in exactly the same situation with the virtually pirate seizure of their ship Pueblo, did not dare to force the operation. They concluded that with such an attempt no one would survive on the ship. They were freed exclusively by diplomacy, although there were much more reasons for force intervention than we have now.
      If you want to scream urakrichalki - this is your right, but for an objective assessment of what is happening, you should familiarize yourself with this
      https://topwar.ru/35464-kak-vms-kndr-zahvatili-am
      erikanskiy-voennyy-korabl.html

      That there were no opuses like
      Quote: Nikolai Petrov
      What would happen to Mexico if it captured an American fishing or merchant ship?

      Yes, nothing would have died - they would have expressed concern. Do not agree? - follow the link.
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 April 4 2018 10: 54
        +1
        "Nord", delivered to the port of Berdyansk, he was arrested. Moscow requires from Kiev to return the captured ship and free the crew.
        And you can also knock on the table with your fist ... well, as a last resort, of course. Well, what else can we do. Are we a world power?
      2. Weyland
        Weyland April 4 2018 16: 08
        0
        Quote: 11 black
        If you want to scream urakrichalki - this is your right, but for an objective assessment of what is happening, you should familiarize yourself with this
        https://topwar.ru/35464-kak-vms-kndr-zahvatili-am
        erikanskiy-voennyy-korabl.html

        Do not channel! There is a very big difference between Ukraine and the DPRK - and lies in the presence of the latest nuclear weapons!
        1. 11 black
          11 black April 5 2018 14: 25
          0
          Quote: Weyland
          Do not channel! There is a very big difference between Ukraine and the DPRK - and lies in the presence of the latest nuclear weapons!

          And you read further than the title, there is still a lot of interesting things wink
    4. New Year day
      New Year day April 4 2018 11: 31
      0
      Quote: Incomprehensible
      What's next?!

      farther? as an option, the convoy of Ukrainian fighters of a passenger plane from \ to Simferopol with landing on the territory of Ukraine. There are so many arrested at once! Maybe?
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack April 4 2018 11: 49
        +4
        Quote: Silvestr
        Maybe?

        No.
      2. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 April 4 2018 21: 18
        +1
        And in the Ukrainian army there are still flying fighters?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day April 4 2018 21: 58
          0
          Quote: Metallurg_2
          And in the Ukrainian army there are still flying fighters?

          there is. 60 pieces
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 4 2018 08: 29
    +10
    Forced to live next to tons of rotting fish. The captain of "Nord" spoke about the humiliations of the SBU
    Provocation. There is no ale with the Novichok. Now you’ll be blown away by fishermen. With regular details and terrible details. But we have a mundial on the nose.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 4 2018 08: 31
    +6
    To drown pirates, the ship and crew - to rescue ... What remains ...
  4. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov April 4 2018 08: 32
    +4
    It seems that the ukroshakals from just an evil growl go on trying to grab hold of their legs.
    Chimera "aggressor" hung, hung in the air and begins to disappear.
    To save her, you need a shaft of provocations
  5. Vard
    Vard April 4 2018 08: 33
    +10
    Yeah ... somehow it turns out plainly ... it turns out that Russian citizenship does not guarantee protection at all ...
    1. 97110
      97110 April 4 2018 09: 50
      +1
      Quote: Vard
      it turns out Russian citizenship does not guarantee protection ...

      from my own stupidity. What, captured fishermen did not hear anything about the relations between Russia and Ukraine? Why, when the drunk got under the wheels, no one asks from the authorities? Well, they’re responsible for everything. I can not say anything about the affairs of the fishermen of Azov, but is it really what happened? Who is this power that is guilty and has not defended? Will you show your finger? This one is a lieutenant captain or cap. 3 did not provide? Or is it Putin’s fault right away, he went to Istanbul for a gulk, and then suddenly the Ukrainians responded to the aggression they had long declared? Songs have not heard revolutionary, our great-grandfathers and grandfathers? There is a clear appeal that "no one will give us ..." with the explanation that "we will achieve liberation with our own hand!"
  6. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov April 4 2018 08: 35
    +1
    hahly under the bridge will now be squatting, driven by kicks.
  7. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 4 2018 08: 42
    +7
    Are you expressing concern again? Is it not fate to calm down this submarine? Why are we so stupid, huh?
    1. 97110
      97110 April 4 2018 09: 59
      +1
      Quote: iliitch
      Why are we so stupid, huh?

      But because it is beneficial for the bourgeoisie to have staff soaring dreams in empireia. We have capitalism in the country! And the main task of the authorities is the preservation and increase of capital, the observance of the interests of the capitalists. Which of the capitalists suffered from the arrest of Nord? Why didn’t his staff require HIM (in the described situation he is extreme, and the crew should ask him for his defenselessness) their safety? Are there military risks insured? Most funny. Where, damn it, is the fighter for the cause of the working class Grudinin and the main communist Zyuganov? The main Stalinist has already returned from Ukraine? Beware of being ignorant in politics and economics!
      1. Archivist Vasya
        Archivist Vasya April 4 2018 10: 25
        +2
        And what does Grudinin and old Sue have to do with it? What can they do now? Also express concern or righteous anger as the Foreign Ministry or hire mercenaries and send them to recapture the ship ???
        I think so much that we are throwing our own (yes that is) for the sake of this football World Cup ... Think of 10 people and an old longboat ... women still give birth, and the shipyards of these vessels are also riveted smartly, the main thing is that without scandals before World Cup, and then you never know what, will be canceled more ...
        1. 97110
          97110 April 4 2018 10: 38
          0
          Quote: Archivist Vasya
          And what does Grudinin and old Sue have to do with it?

          They allegedly lead the Communist Party, have a representative office in the State Duma, and are fighting for the presidency of the country. Did you vote for Grudinin? Well, why did you do this? That is, you don’t understand what the Communist Party should fight for. That's just for the fact that the workers were protected from the arbitrariness of the owners. Where did the Nord go? Why did the EDR, which forms the government, allow such an outrage? Steamboat in a war zone? No? Why the zone is not declared! For real communists, a great occasion to raise discussion in parliament. But what is it, the Communists? Grudinin, Voronenkov - COMMUNISTS? You don't feel like a fool? And uncle Zyu, and the owner of ZAO "state farm ...", and Mr. Suraikin equally on these unfortunate. At best, they will bark at the President, like us here gathered.
          1. Archivist Vasya
            Archivist Vasya April 4 2018 11: 03
            +1
            Yes, for Grudinin, and do not be for Zyuganov or another commie, but do not participate in the elections for Zhirik, etc. the main thing is not for Putin, since he will win anyway - why then vote for him? Think about it yourself. I repeat once again that I don’t see any reason for them, like the rest, to express dissatisfaction about this - words do not solve anything. You can raise a discussion, it will help sailors - no. Did Putin solve this problem? How much time has passed. No, I have not heard, there are more important things to do. This is about the election.
            And at the expense of Nord, what can I say - fools, trampled over for a rich catch where it is not necessary, perhaps it will carry it over, it always rolled before. But no, dill does not doze off this time! And I did not understand, from whose arbitrariness the sailors of the Nord should be protected, which owners?
            And what kind of nonsense are you writing about the war zone ?! They did not swim close to the waters of the DPR. Naturally, no one should declare this zone. There is a map below in the comments where they were “tied” - the lads sailed too far from our shores. They are aware of relations with Ukraine. For a long time they will cheer them ....
            This provocation should be resolved precisely by force, but where are we, the World Cup on football more important! God forbid there will be a scandal.
            1. 97110
              97110 April 4 2018 11: 30
              0
              Quote: Archivist Vasya
              or other commies,

              That is, it is the same for you whom to vote for. What then are claims to power if you have no interest in having your own power. Why then demand that the bourgeoisie, who came to power in a constitutional manner, respond to your needs? They are BURGUIS, they are equally alike to our difficulties, they give birth to new women. They will bring the Chinese when the Middle Asians run out. Labor will always be as cheap as possible, and Grudinin and Zyuganov are needed so that the labor force does not understand this. Vote further, for ... commie. No children? Are you the same for them? I have no answers to your simple questions. Not Lenin, sorry. Maybe you need to look at the history of the RSDLP, how they could become a party, a parliamentary party, to take power in Russia. But, while we ask naive questions from the party of the class antagonist and number the communists Voronenkov and Grudinin, we will be in strict accordance with the work of Mr. Marx.
              1. Archivist Vasya
                Archivist Vasya April 4 2018 11: 50
                0
                I agree that our communists were blown away, but in China everything is going smoothly, the economy is growing, and defense potential too. They maintained communism and became leaders (leading) countries. That's how it is. request
                1. 97110
                  97110 April 4 2018 12: 03
                  0
                  Quote: Archivist Vasya
                  They maintained communism and became leaders (leading) countries.

                  The Chinese, duck ... I agree. Shit on the soul. So far, truly working parties will appear. Yes, and whether? And he worked with the owners ...
  8. pavelpavel
    pavelpavel April 4 2018 08: 42
    +6
    We don’t leave our own. We don’t leave our own. You can substitute any place.
  9. rhd
    rhd April 4 2018 08: 46
    0
    Here is MORE complete information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCvMLbV1AXw
    1. Antares
      Antares April 4 2018 11: 35
      +1
      Quote: rhd
      Here is MORE complete information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCvMLbV1AXw

      as usual, it’s easier for Sharia to find out information than for all these employees of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, consulates, border guards and services ... bureaucrats in one word.
      He looked, already somehow figuratively, playing a game of fate under the howl of the media (the tragedy of people to justify their actions) of the two countries. Partners to the wall peoples.
  10. Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov April 4 2018 09: 02
    +7
    I will not deal with plagiarism, just one person asked: What would happen to Mexico if it captured an American fishing or merchant ship?
    And here it is.
    1. 11 black
      11 black April 4 2018 09: 15
      +4
      Quote: Nikolai Petrov
      I will not deal with plagiarism, just one person asked: What would happen to Mexico if it captured an American fishing or merchant ship?
      And here it is.

      There wouldn’t be anything.
  11. taseka
    taseka April 4 2018 09: 05
    +9
    Where are our seals, seals and all kinds of cool walruses there ???
    1. Warrior Hamilton
      Warrior Hamilton April 4 2018 09: 12
      +4
      In Syria, dear! There we have them: na-na-na ......... and finally ........... bully And in Berdyansk ...... there is no oil in Berdyansk request
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A April 4 2018 09: 24
      +12
      Quote: taseka
      Where are our seals, seals and all kinds of cool walruses there ???

      On the tv under silly chases - where they just picked up different Bagir, Bison, Sea Devils and other evil spirits. They tell children tales of a white sea bull ....
    3. Civilian
      Civilian April 4 2018 09: 34
      +3
      Today you can see it on NTV. Sea Devils. Northern borders. "Rainbow over the Arctic", 1st and 2nd series. At 18.15 it will start, until the 21st zero zero, with a break for news at 19.00. (you can recover and smoke).
    4. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 April 4 2018 21: 19
      +1
      Where it is supposed to be a northern animal - in the Northern Fleet ...
  12. Mihail55
    Mihail55 April 4 2018 09: 06
    +4
    It’s sad. How much can you threaten ??? Or is it all because of the ball ???
  13. Brigadier
    Brigadier April 4 2018 09: 11
    +6
    Long live Putin and his stern urine in the outhouse!
    Though now YOU understand who YOU have you chosen for the following years?
    At least now it has come to you or not yet?
    What else should our “partners” do to YOU something began to reach?
    Yes ... Russia is not Israel ... They have an instant and real reaction to such provocations, and here, AS ALWAYS, "expression of concern" ... Sad ...
    Personally, I voted for Grudinin!
    1. vorobey
      vorobey April 4 2018 09: 17
      +4
      Quote: Brigadier
      Personally, I voted for Grudinin!


      well, a fool ... a better dog ... I voted for her .. I did a bastard for future generations .. let them live like we were 90 .. when the Communists slept and the liberals sold ..
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A April 5 2018 11: 02
        +2
        Alexander, hi !
        Quote: vorobey
        Sobchak is better ... I voted for her .. I did a bastard for future generations .. let them live like we did in 90 .. when the Communists pissed off and the liberals sold ..

        You are evil, however .... drinks
    2. Camel
      Camel April 4 2018 09: 22
      +6
      Yes, you are sick of it with your Grudinin, probably already in the fifth topic I see you with this slogan. Not tired? Or do they pay money for signs? PS I voted for Putin, but I do not consider myself very stupid. But people like you drag the country to collapse!
    3. Camel
      Camel April 4 2018 09: 26
      +5
      Your Grudinin at least said something on this issue? Not to mention the business ... The elections were held and there is none, and nobody in FIG needs it. And GDP continues to work
    4. Camel
      Camel April 4 2018 09: 30
      +3
      And I personally am for Putin. What does this change in interstate relations? Or hesitates that your president would show them all!? !! That's just a word from him after the election ...
      1. Camel
        Camel April 4 2018 09: 33
        +3
        Brigadier, you already lifted up your Grudinin !! In each topic, he calm down.
    5. next322
      next322 April 4 2018 09: 33
      +4
      [quote = Foreman] Personally, I voted for Grudinin [/ quote

      ] Do you think your thieving Jew-oligarch would have resolved this situation by two times ??? laughing I doubt
    6. 97110
      97110 April 4 2018 10: 03
      +2
      Quote: Brigadier
      Personally, I voted for Grudinin!

      And what does the Communist Party and Grudinin having a rest from political struggle? 10 workers shoved by the owner under the arrest of a foreign state. Why are the Communists silent? Or did these Communists not hear that their party was self-appointed for the struggle for the working cause?
    7. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch April 4 2018 10: 07
      +1
      Quote: Brigadier
      Personally, I voted for Grudinin!

      Dafai-dafai, comrade.
      The next day we would be torn to pieces. Corporal in the division, beauty ... This cheburah narulit, yes.
    8. vovanpain
      vovanpain April 4 2018 12: 13
      +3
      Quote: Brigadier
      Yes ... Russia is not Israel ... This is their instant and real reaction to such provocations, and here, ALWAYS, is an "expression of concern" ... It's sad.

      It’s sad that such foremen don’t understand how such reactions to such provocations are being prepared even in Israel, at least in Limpopo, at least in Russia, even in China, they wave a saber from the sofa.
      Quote: Brigadier
      Personally, I voted for Grudinin!

      Yes, even if you go to the toilet every day and vote there, the elections are over, know how to lose like men, and not like women from the bazaar. Where is your Grudinin and where is your Zyuganov? What are they silent about? like water in your mouth scored. Warriors damn it.
    9. Weyland
      Weyland April 4 2018 16: 10
      0
      Quote: Brigadier
      Personally, I voted for Grudinin!

      The communists lost their chance. And to state for a communist with such a solid capital .. wassat . I voted for Zhirinovsky!
    10. not main
      not main April 4 2018 19: 59
      0
      Quote: Brigadier
      Personally, I voted for Grudinin!

      Sorry!
  14. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT April 4 2018 09: 18
    +2
    Our competent authorities are now not up to simple situations. Turkey, Syria .... This is not right. The response to the provocation was to be instantaneous and at the same time discouraging to repeat this. While strong in words.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey April 4 2018 09: 21
      +3
      Quote: ODERVIT
      The response to the provocation was to be instantaneous and at the same time discouraging to repeat such


      revenge cold dish ....

      I wrote above about the legislation on Azov .. and the strait .. dig yourself yourself no ... the blow will be asymmetric.
  15. shuravi
    shuravi April 4 2018 09: 20
    +3
    And whoever even looked, where did the fishermen want to fish?
  16. Siberian 1975
    Siberian 1975 April 4 2018 09: 20
    +4
    How embarrassed our authorities are with concern for any reason. And for the championship, it seems, they are ready to substitute the ass, just to hold it.
    1. Camel
      Camel April 4 2018 09: 41
      +6
      Well, yes, I got sick of it, first the Olympics, then this World Cup, how much you can already wipe!
  17. sgr291158
    sgr291158 April 4 2018 09: 26
    +3
    But is it not time to hahlrozhim on the snot.
  18. Bronevick
    Bronevick April 4 2018 09: 30
    +3
    Isn't it enough for the crew that we are concerned?
  19. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil April 4 2018 09: 37
    +2
    Soon the fishermen will also be fined. For biological contamination of the port.
  20. shuravi
    shuravi April 4 2018 09: 42
    +6
    Here's the question, - What kind of crew did they go there for?



    You can refer to international rules of course, but the fact that they themselves were framed is obvious.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day April 4 2018 11: 49
      +2
      Quote: shuravi
      And what kind of crew did they go there for?

      this is a zone of general management, so both Ukrainian fishermen and ours catch fish. Always. Even at that hour in this area there were a bunch of seiners from both countries.
    2. iouris
      iouris April 4 2018 12: 14
      +3
      Quote: shuravi
      And what kind of crew did they go there for?

      This is the right question. But if the captain violated something, then this is not the basis for bullying the crew, persuading people to transfer to another citizenship, denial of consular assistance, legal settlement of claims. So we are talking about pirate actions that should be suppressed by force.
  21. ivan0vitch
    ivan0vitch April 4 2018 09: 45
    +7
    Unfortunately, smelling unpleasant odors is becoming more and more a habit of Russians. someone sniffs landfills in the suburbs, someone rotten fish. side effect of disregard for people
    1. vorobey
      vorobey April 4 2018 09: 53
      +8
      Quote: Rossia
      Unfortunately, smelling unpleasant odors is becoming more and more a habit of Russians. someone sniffs landfills in the suburbs, someone rotten fish. side effect of disregard for people


      shut up your native ... protect your women from the Arabs first and then worry about us too ..
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain April 4 2018 12: 17
        +6
        Quote: vorobey
        shut up, dear ... protect your women from the Arabs first and then worry about us

        Sanya, he himself would protect himself from the Arabs laughing and as many have seen these survivors, they come unknown and leave unknown. hi
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch April 4 2018 12: 40
          +2
          Quote: vovanpain
          Sanya, he himself would have been protected from the Arabs, and as far as they have seen, these survivors come unknown and leave unknown.

          Yeah And that is characteristic, all Ivana and Vaska.
      2. Siberian 1975
        Siberian 1975 April 4 2018 15: 01
        +2
        Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye lol
    2. 97110
      97110 April 4 2018 11: 40
      +2
      Quote: Rossia
      side effect of disregard for people

      And the people are not against a disregard. 2 (TWO) Communist (by name) parties in the State Duma, but no one asks the owner or the Government the question of the arrest of 10 workers by a foreign state. Sooner, the working class must mature ...
      1. ivan0vitch
        ivan0vitch April 4 2018 19: 16
        +1
        Let's hope that this is a growth disease and not something genetic) As with landfills, for example. Life has become dramatically better - there is more debris, but technology and processing culture have not grown. Also with the roads - there are no cars to push through, and roads are bad. The working class, you are right, do not realize your rights, sorry for the tautology. All this takes time
  22. Operator
    Operator April 4 2018 09: 51
    +2
    Some strange article - neither yours nor ours: "administrative protocols for violating the maritime border."

    Ukraine officially announced that the seiner was detained 15 miles from the coast, and the maritime border passes at 12. The only rational reason is the illegal fishing of fish in the Ukrainian economic zone (up to 200 miles, but not further than the Russian economic zone). But then in the administrative protocol the phrases “economic zone, illegal fishing” should appear, and not violation of the sea border.

    In addition, by definition only foreign citizens (in this case, Russian) can break the border, but then why is the Russian consul not allowed to the seiner’s crew?

    Based on the entry in the Ukrainian administrative protocol, Russia should recognize the capture of the Russian crew and ship in international waters as an act of piracy and continue to act under international law:
    - prohibit the passage of any Ukrainian ships and ships, as well as foreign ships and ships sailing to the Ukrainian ports of the Sea of ​​Azov, through Russian territorial waters (Kerch Strait);
    - demand from Ukraine compensation for material and moral damage to the owner of the seiner and crew members (respectively 10 million and 1 million dollars);
    - until they pay, the Kerch Strait is not open for them.
  23. Opera
    Opera April 4 2018 09: 55
    +1
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    It’s interesting to me - what would America have done “yesterday” if they had skipped their fishing vessel in Berdyansk? The sixth fleet in full force would stand nearby. Least...

    Not nano of these insinuations worthless! Let me remind you about the detention of two American military boats by the Iranians together with the brave crying marines! I can also recall the launch by Iranians of rockets in the immediate vicinity of the Harry Truman aircraft carrier! The missiles went just 1.4 km from the starboard !!!!)))))) Where was your favorite 6th fleet yesterday, the day before, during the launch of missiles and the capture of American warriors ?! Where were the fucking American diplomats with the whole State Department ?! Where, precious they were I ask you ?!
    1. Weyland
      Weyland April 4 2018 16: 12
      0
      Quote: Oper
      Let me remind you about the detention of two American military boats by the Iranians together with the brave crying marines!

      в Iranian territorial waters - and not international, as with the Nord. catch the difference?
  24. Romin
    Romin April 4 2018 09: 56
    +8
    When a huge and powerful state such as Russia, a permanent member of the UN Security Council, cannot stand up for itself in a fairly easily resolved small conflict with a state of such a level as Ukraine, then a lot of questions arise to the system of state-forming departments that are without a guide from above, they cannot fart on a campaign - and this once again confirms the inferiority of the manual control system, because One person is physically unable to respond to all incoming calls. Although, it’s completely clear who created this system, but I’m not talking about that.
    This is how much you and your citizens should not be respected, to sit chewing snot for so long, to express concern and .... and do nothing to release. Many will say wait, wait - the work is on! What work? Do we have a special operation to rescue the Black Sea Fleet going on? Where all information is strictly classified! Enough of this idiocy! The people should know what the state is doing to protect its citizens.
    At the moment, all that is in the bottom line is concern — it is declared by the state!
    That's how people can be perceived as their own inferior and disdainful of him, that not to give any information - to play some kind of quiet, just before the riot in Kemerovo did not bring with their closeness !!!
    After all, elementary things need to be done in the information space so that citizens understand both the detainees and “not yet”;)) understand that the state is working in this direction. A dry statement by the Foreign Ministry does not apply to widespread coverage of this problem!
    And we have this mess in everything!
    Citizens of the Russian Federation are detained in third countries and deported and convicted in the United States - and? Again silence and No retaliatory action! Bullshit is some kind of state that gives a promise to society, defend yourself? So then you give a clear statement that if somewhere Russian citizens got into trouble, then these are your problems and solve them yourself! Do it yourself! The presence of a passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation does not tell you that Russia is ready and will protect and release you.
    And then, dear colleagues, it will be clear that if everything is yourselves, fight back with your fists and run to the border, cross it, naturally not at the checkpoint and uv you are at home!
    Well this is nonsense!
  25. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion April 4 2018 09: 59
    +2
    Quote: shuravi
    Here's the question, - What kind of crew did they go there for?



    You can refer to international rules of course, but the fact that they themselves were framed is obvious.


    I agree: Firstly, they themselves substituted that they had come so close to dill, and secondly, that they surrendered without complaint, without even warning their superiors and without trying to contact the Russian border guards. Everyone found out about the fact of detention already in the Ukrainian port and from the Ukrainian parties. And now these unfortunate cry. Something tells us that it may be bribed Cossacks who work on camera.
  26. Vard
    Vard April 4 2018 10: 21
    +6
    Off-topic ... but nonetheless about our mentality ... Most of the planes in Russia are registered in the Bahamas ... Including the state-owned company Aeroflot ... The state-owned company registers planes in the Bahamas ... so that taxes in Do not pay Russia ... and what do we want after that?
  27. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya April 4 2018 10: 36
    +1
    Quote: Xscorpion
    bribed Cossacks who work on camera.

    Well, or the fools that popped up for a good catch where you do not need to, maybe carry it. It didn’t work out. Anyway, what kind of sailors who already had almost 2 heart attacks happened, you won’t work so much.
    But I must admit they put us in a puddle competently ... sad
  28. HMR333
    HMR333 April 4 2018 10: 47
    0
    it would be worth adjusting the ships and warning that if, during the course of this time, the sailors with a ship are not allowed to act, they will act like pirates!
  29. ZVS
    ZVS April 4 2018 10: 48
    +3
    And in Russia, what does the special forces do? For some reason, they managed to land in the port in Batumi and put things in order there, but they can't in Berdyansk? Is it really hard to land amphibious forces under the cover of Black Sea Fleet ships and free the ship and crew? And then close the Kerch Strait for Ukraine - let them swim like ... a ram in the Azov puddle.
  30. VB
    VB April 4 2018 11: 03
    0
    Block Odessa, Berdyansk, Mariupol, etc.
  31. shuravi
    shuravi April 4 2018 11: 24
    +2
    [quote = Xscorpion] [quote = shuravi]
    I agree: Firstly, they themselves substituted that they had come so close to dill, and secondly, that they surrendered without complaint, without even warning their superiors and without trying to contact the Russian border guards. Everyone learned about the fact of detention already in the Ukrainian port and from the Ukrainian parties. And now these unfortunate cry. Something tells us that it may be bribed Cossacks who work on camera. [/ quote]

    Here are yesterday's "News":



    In the twentieth minute (19 ': 30' '), it was announced that the spider was caught.
    Then we look at the area of ​​its distribution:



    http://mi-24v.users.photofile.ru/photo/mi-24v/209
    7934 / 215128308.jpg

    And again on the trawler’s route:




    So the question is, why did the captain go there?
    1. Vard
      Vard April 4 2018 12: 45
      0
      I wanted to sell the catch ... in Ukraine, the price is twenty percent more ...
  32. Grandfather Mozai
    Grandfather Mozai April 4 2018 14: 09
    +2
    MFA: Excuse me, but the position of Russia is to endure any humiliation before the World Cup, well, then we’ll give the devil a hat! Somewhere I already heard it, in my opinion, before the presidential election)
  33. brdm
    brdm April 4 2018 17: 41
    +1
    “Freedom of navigation means that every state, both coastal and landlocked, has the right to have ships flying its flag sail on the high seas. Ships have the nationality of the state whose flag they are entitled to sail and are subject to exclusive jurisdictions of the state whose flag they fly.The state exercises administrative and technical jurisdiction over the courts, the master and crew, maintains a register of ships, takes measures to ensure the safety of navigation, and organizes a qualified investigation of every serious accident or other navigational incident on the high seas with the participation of a vessel flying its flag. Criminal or disciplinary proceedings against a captain or other crew member ATTENTION !!! - can only be brought before the judicial or administrative authorities of the flag state. " Further: Settlement of disputes regarding the implementation of agreements between the participating states is carried out by peaceful means in accordance with the UN Charter, the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, and any peaceful means of their choice. At the same time, the obligation of the parties to the dispute to immediately begin to exchange views on a negotiated settlement or other peaceful means is provided for. A state that is a party to the dispute may, in particular, propose that the other party refer the dispute to a court or arbitration for settlement: a) to the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea; b) the International Court of Justice; c) arbitration established in accordance with Appendix VII to the 1982 Convention; d) special arbitration established in accordance with Appendix VIII to the 1982 Convention

    These special bodies are called upon to ensure the implementation of the provisions of the 1982 Convention in cases where the parties to the dispute have not been able to resolve it by peaceful means agreed upon. "And in response, -Silence. He yesterday ... didn’t Return .. from the Battle!"
  34. Dimon
    Dimon April 4 2018 18: 34
    0
    Time is lost. It was necessary to solve the problem during the hours "without noise and dust." It's a shame, whose Crimea is it? Ours is clear forever, but why do ukram give an extra reason to give?
  35. C0ba1tum
    C0ba1tum April 4 2018 21: 34
    0
    They just beg. This is not casual. It’s very similar to the tactics of a yard gopot, when one petty and smelly one pounds, snatches out and then three or four of his friends come out of the corner and legally say “You offended our sidekick, fuck!” knock out all the mat. good. They expect this from us, that we will arrange force actions, right up to the blockade, for which the world community will punish us, to put it mildly, because they still don’t consider Crimea to be ours. It would be really effective to send 5 to 000 zarobitschits to the damn mom home (well, are all two million of these potential terrorists all right with the documents?) And cut off the money transfers to hell.
  36. nikolaev
    nikolaev April 4 2018 22: 52
    0
    Right now "sea devils" will catch up
  37. ochakow703
    ochakow703 April 5 2018 03: 12
    0
    Without going into any diplomatic and legal subtleties of the case, I can say one thing. We, the whole country, dipped again. We stand streamlined ... And what to do? World football on the nose!
    PS I looked at the school football field ... I really wanted to play checkers. Although ... We are a world power! We think so ourselves! And no one else ...
  38. Radikal
    Radikal April 5 2018 14: 02
    0
    Quote: Spartanez300
    Where are our fucking diplomats, as usual snot chew. I laid Kiev on the requirements of Russia with them in a different way. Shame on the authorities who cannot stand up for their citizens.

    As where? On Smolenskaya Square! One of them said today that "all possible measures are being taken ..." wassat
  39. Ingvar0401
    Ingvar0401 April 5 2018 14: 06
    +1
    Well, if diplomats are right, then where are our seals? Or just in the movies they have all famously ....