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Serbs require new weapons. Moscow and Belgrade are discussing deliveries

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Russian Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu held talks with the head of the military department of Serbia Alexander Vulin, during which the parties discussed the issue of supplying to Serbia four Mi-35 combat helicopters, four Mi-17 transport helicopters, tanks T-72, BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles and other weapons.


Serbs require new weapons. Moscow and Belgrade are discussing deliveries


At the moment we were talking about the purchase of four transport helicopters Mi-17 and four combat helicopters Mi-35. We also talked about the continuation of military-technical cooperation, about further equipment, modernization of MiG fighters, about the acquisition and supply of T-72 and BMP-2 tanks and certain types of other weapons
- said Vulin.

At the same time, he stressed that the Serbian army is trying to equip and arm as much as possible.

We must always be prepared for the worst-case scenario.
- declared Wulin.

In addition, as Vulin stated, Serbia is discussing the supply of additional MiG-29 fighters with Russia and Belarus.

Of course, we are also talking about additional aircraft not only with Russia, but also with the Republic of Belarus.
- he said.

As for the delivery time, for us it would be better the sooner the better. The speed of deliveries and the speed of their inclusion in the armed forces is one of the important factors. Regarding conditions, this is a (free) transfer
- added Vulin.

We remind you that in October Moscow 2017 transferred six MiG-29 to Belgrade.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
    Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 3 2018 18: 50
    +2
    I hope on mutually beneficial terms and not without compensation. And then how to demand money, so Armenia should be steamed first. The Russians said. As we demand reparations from invincible askers, we will pay.
    1. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don April 3 2018 18: 51
      +10
      Kosovo is Serbia !!!!!!!!!!!! We will help with weapons and specialists.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey April 3 2018 19: 07
        +5
        Quote: Ancestors from the Don
        Kosovo is Serbia !!!!!!!!!!!! We will help with weapons and specialists.


        I didn’t see the air defense systems in the list ... Apparently the Serbs decided that the Pecher’s stealth is also wet. laughing laughing
        1. 210ox
          210ox April 3 2018 22: 34
          +4
          I think that the Serbs should first of all officially decide who they are .. Or in NATO, or with Russia ..
          1. Dam
            Dam April 4 2018 01: 27
            0
            That’s for sure, while the little brothers rotate the base no worse than prostitutes
            1. Bad_santa
              Bad_santa April 4 2018 06: 14
              0
              War is war, and the hero will not fight for a long time on an empty stomach. So if we can offer not only weapons to countries loyal to us, but also all the goods and products for normal living, then we will have allies. So far, even in our country, we cannot build the production of everything necessary for a full life. We buy in China. So with a normal economy, we will have neither a strong army, nor allies
          2. garnik
            garnik April 4 2018 06: 52
            0
            If we wait for the age-old ally left by us to tear apart our enemies to make a decision and at the same time hesitate with help, then we will not see support in the future. Having friends is a responsibility and it’s unprofitable for the budget.
        2. Tusv
          Tusv April 3 2018 23: 17
          0
          Quote: vorobey
          air defense systems I did not see in the list ..

          Air defense is expensive. Many times more expensive than any modern pepelats, the acre of the Spirits (B-2 / These are finally 2 lard apiece and 200 lard for modernization).
          But! If in the CSTO, and even in the system of our global air defense ... Only 200 lem credit and how much live cash. Almost free
      2. Alber
        Alber April 3 2018 22: 04
        +1
        Quote: Ancestors from the Don
        Kosovo is Serbia !!!!!!!!!!!! We will help with weapons and specialists.

        Brothers need help ...
        1. Beltasir matyagu
          Beltasir matyagu April 3 2018 23: 18
          +1
          Yes, we have no brothers ..
    2. Magic archer
      Magic archer April 3 2018 18: 52
      0
      It’s written-GRAVE-FREE TRANSFER. So it's free. Russia-Mother, a rich country ..
      1. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
        Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 3 2018 18: 53
        +3
        Quote: Magic Archer
        It’s written-GRAVE-FREE TRANSFER. So it's free. Russia-Mother, a rich country ..

        Glory to God! And the Lord will reward you for your bounties!
        1. helmi8
          helmi8 April 3 2018 19: 02
          +7
          Quote: Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
          Quote: Magic Archer
          It’s written-GRAVE-FREE TRANSFER. So it's free. Russia-Mother, a rich country ..
          Glory to God! And the Lord will reward you for your bounties!

          In order to have an island in the form of an ally in a swamp called Europe - it is possible and free of charge.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina April 3 2018 20: 44
            +6
            But how long will this island last? No, all this is good and right, BUT .... When Uncle Vasya created his troops, there was no such air defense and missile defense.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv April 3 2018 22: 28
              0
              Quote: sabakina
              BUT .... When Uncle Vasya created his troops, there was no such air defense and missile defense.

              Missile defense was not in the time of Uncle Vasya. But! Glory. You offend the Paramilitary. The borders are guarded entirely by the Guards, and the Guard was earned by blood and then, just in time of Uncle Vasya hi
              1. sabakina
                sabakina April 3 2018 22: 33
                +3
                Volodya, I did not understand your thought. The paramilitary who guard the border received the title of guard?
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv April 3 2018 22: 41
                  0
                  The regalia of my unit are Leningrad, Guards, Three times Red Banner, Orders of Suvorov and Kutuzov. All this with blood and sweat, and at a time when the Airborne Forces arose. It was air defense (paramilitary organization) during the time of Uncle Vasya
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina April 3 2018 22: 48
                    +4
                    Volod, 331 ПДП Airborne Forces! I haven’t read much about the creation of the Airborne Forces, but I keep the book given to my father.
                    1. Tusv
                      Tusv April 3 2018 22: 57
                      +2
                      Quote: sabakina
                      Volod, 331 ПДП Airborne Forces!

                      In modern times, the Paramilitary is required to provide the Winged Guard with a safe flight. Rocketeers and Gunners - a safe landing.
                      Well! For allies drinks
                      1. sabakina
                        sabakina April 3 2018 23: 01
                        +4
                        Well, Volodya, given that my mother used to work on a drive, I’ll have to drinks
      2. Denis Obukhov
        Denis Obukhov April 3 2018 18: 59
        0
        With subsequent write-off. Purely brotherly.
      3. Tusv
        Tusv April 3 2018 22: 20
        0
        Quote: Magic Archer
        It’s written-GRAVE-FREE TRANSFER. So it's free. Russia-Mother, a rich country ..

        What are you, namesake greedy. Neither myself nor people recourse
        We have just given a few MiGs-29 presented from long-term storage warehouses. Modernization at the expense of Brothers. Engines, Avionics, Fire control up to 2/3 of the cost. Plus ammunition.
        How many T-72 and BMP-2 do we have to gather dust for tax collectors at the SDH?
        Again. Modernization at Our expense, but on Their money hi
      4. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis April 4 2018 07: 47
        0
        Sometimes it’s better to give a friend a weapon for free, than then pay with the blood of their citizens .. ..
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      2. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
        Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 3 2018 19: 58
        +2
        Quote: Lek3338
        Askers have something to pay

        It would not be a bad thing to reinforce your solvency with military skill and self-sacrifice in the name of Victory. What, you do not have the valiant Asker (((((!
        1. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx April 4 2018 06: 14
          0
          I see fidain so valiant that I have already received Russian citizenship. To brag about the success of others, do not stir up the bags, can you check it personally? Does your passport allow
      3. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
        Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 3 2018 20: 12
        +2
        Quote: Lek3338
        fidainy (Armenian) in turn beggars. Master barin, decide to give a handout from the lordly table

        In part, I understand your irritation. Because the "beggars" put your "Army" on the brink of defeat, and only God's providence saved the "Great" army of Azerbaijan from disaster. PSÖlmej var Dëndi yohdu. It remains only to bring this thesis to the masses of the people of Azerbaijan. And sacred sacrifices are ready for the ritual in the name of the radiant Ilham !!!
        1. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx April 4 2018 06: 21
          0
          Quote: Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
          PSÖlmej var Dëndi yohdu.

          Ooh, I see life taught the dictum, once I heard it. From Baku? A shoemaker with experience? I probably needed boots when I dumped it, though not to my homeland, but to the Russian Federation. Well, well, the traditions of the generations were first, grandfather was kicked out of Turkey, you need your son from Russia so that Great Armenia finally sees her grandson at home.
    4. Maz
      Maz April 3 2018 19: 48
      0
      This is not 1999, and there is no Yeltsin, and NATO is unlikely to turn up.
      1. mgero
        mgero April 3 2018 20: 00
        0
        Վլադիմիր Տեր Օդիյանց դու թուրքես?
  2. san4es
    san4es April 3 2018 18: 51
    +1
    Serbs need new weapons

    ... It is desirable "Iskander" + C-400 soldier
    1. Don
      Don April 3 2018 19: 01
      +3
      Quote: san4es
      Serbs need new weapons

      ... It is desirable "Iskander" + C-400 soldier

      Iskanders are too powerful weapons. They and the MLRS of large calibers such as Hurricane and Tornado will suffice in abundance. In general, Serbia will not be allowed to conquer Kosovo around the NATO blog. But it is necessary to strengthen the armed forces of friendly Serbia to the level that it is the strongest in the Balkans and that it does not join NATO.
      1. san4es
        san4es April 3 2018 19: 13
        0
        Quote: Donskoy
        .. around the NATO blog. .

        "... The demons walled up." MLRS to the distant cordon does not get ... And the Iskander under the guise of the S-400, just right ... So that there would be no creeps ... And then there will be a Russian "enclave" in the camp of the adversary soldier .
        1. Don
          Don April 3 2018 19: 47
          +3
          Quote: san4es
          "... The demons walled up." MLRS will not reach the far cordon ... But the Iskander, under the cover of C-400, is just right ... So that there would be no creeps ... And the Russian Federation will have an enclave in the camp of the soldier adversary.

          Serbia has almost no money, a poor country. Calculate by money how much it will cost to create in Serbia a small, fully self-sufficient group of troops, including the C-400 regiment, 8 cover armor, the 2-3 regiment Buk M-2, 1 tank division T-72M3, 1 X-NUMX , bomber regiment Su-30, 24 brigade Iskander M, electronic warfare systems, etc. For a country of the scale of the Soviet Union, this would not be a problem, but for Russia, whose army itself is not sufficiently saturated with these systems, this is not financially lifting, because it will have to bare its borders. Plus, we also have Syria, to which Russia guaranteed military cover as an ally.
          Summarizing, I can say that we need Serbia, we need a strong ally in the center of Europe, but we cannot afford it according to today's realities. Therefore, we will help friends, but not for free and not at the expense of our own security.
          1. san4es
            san4es April 3 2018 20: 04
            0
            Quote: Donskoy
            ... we will help friends, but not for free and not at the expense of our own security.

            ... and then all right hi
            1. Don
              Don April 3 2018 20: 56
              +3
              Quote: san4es
              ... and then alright hi

              Agree hi It is important for us that Serbia does not join the hostile blocs of the EU and NATO. For this, you have to spend money on the supply of weapons to them. Geopolitics costs a lot of money wink
              1. Alber
                Alber April 3 2018 22: 07
                0
                Quote: Donskoy
                Quote: san4es
                ... and then alright hi

                Agree hi It is important for us that Serbia does not join the hostile blocs of the EU and NATO. For this, you have to spend money on the supply of weapons to them. Geopolitics costs a lot of money wink

                Right! I agree...
          2. ML-334
            ML-334 April 3 2018 20: 24
            0
            Romania next to Yusovsky pro-think.
            1. Don
              Don April 3 2018 20: 49
              0
              Quote: ML-334
              Romania next to Yusovsky pro-think.

              We cover the territory of Romania from the sea with Caliber, Iskander K cruise missiles from land, X-101 air-to-ground missiles. These are all conventional weapons, and there are still strategic nuclear forces.
            2. Don
              Don April 3 2018 22: 57
              0
              Quote: ML-334
              Romania next to Yusovsky pro-think.

              I did not understand, Yugoslavia was next to the US pro or Yugoslav?
          3. sabakina
            sabakina April 3 2018 20: 50
            +4
            Quote: Donskoy
            Serbia has almost no money, a poor country.

            Vasily Ivanovich, well, let’s help the Serbs, we’ll leave our holidays not in Turkey, but in Serbia. The degree of comfort, of course, will not be that at first, but you can tolerate the 2-3 year.
            1. Don
              Don April 3 2018 21: 04
              +2
              Quote: sabakina
              Vasily Ivanovich, well, let’s help the Serbs, we’ll leave our holidays not in Turkey, but in Serbia. The degree of comfort, of course, will not be that at first, but you can tolerate the 2-3 year.

              A good offer, but I'm afraid our citizens will not be happy with the service there. First, you need big business to invest in an extensive investment program for the development of the tourism sector of Serbia, which should be jointly developed by Moscow and Belgrade. Do not forget that we now have Crimea, which also needs to develop the tourism sector. Therefore, in fact, "there is no money, but you stay there and all the best to you."
              1. sabakina
                sabakina April 3 2018 21: 10
                +5
                Yes, Vasily Ivanovich, there is your truth, the Mediterranean is not there ... the Adriatic too ...
        2. Nikolai Petrov
          Nikolai Petrov April 4 2018 06: 32
          +2
          The fact of the matter is that ANKLAV, and in case of fire the boiler. And the fifth column is very huge in Serbia. Still fresh in the memory of the extradition to the Hague court of judgment of their Heroes, because everyone was sold. The fragile position of Serbia unfortunately.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 4 2018 09: 19
            +2
            Everything is very flimsy, it makes no sense to push emotions. They live their own minds, yes, so they get what they choose. Their choice, their government.
            We must fight for our country, and the allies .... as there are none, there is no one to expect betrayal from.
            1. Nikolai Petrov
              Nikolai Petrov April 4 2018 09: 26
              +1
              Exactly. But there are plenty of traitors in our own homes.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 4 2018 10: 28
                +1
                Whoever decides to go with us on the road, this will be a difficult path, then a faithful companion is needed nearby!
                Who in the geyropu "ski" pry! It seems to me that they are going to a dead end, at least for now, it’s not very likely that they can get out!
                Their choice. Yourself!
  3. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa April 3 2018 18: 56
    +3
    Serbia. Resist.
  4. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov April 3 2018 18: 56
    +5
    They were always covered; help was needed. Lost without us
  5. kubanec
    kubanec April 3 2018 18: 59
    +5
    Serbia lived! To whom, but Serbia needs to be helped.
  6. doka
    doka April 3 2018 19: 45
    +2
    In this situation, the Serbs need to be given what they want at a big discount. Someone who is Serb is not a brother, Serbs didn’t throw Russians when they understood Russia, They treated our kid in the nineties with understanding, A real ally behind enemy lines,
    1. Graz
      Graz April 3 2018 19: 51
      +1
      there, a bunch of their national traitors were in power after Milosevic, it’s just impossible to give weapons to anyone, all such deliveries must be accompanied by political agreements
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      1. ELEZKIY
        ELEZKIY April 3 2018 21: 49
        0
        and you are a funny clown ...
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  8. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 April 3 2018 20: 41
    0
    Quote: Denis Obukhov
    With subsequent write-off. Purely brotherly.

    But maintenance and repairs are already at their expense, but we still need somewhere to put the 29th in the framework of updating our fleet. So the benefits are mutual.
  9. family tree
    family tree April 3 2018 22: 31
    +2
    Base. In half, and half of the double basses of the Serbs, and be silent, be silent, doubled, so that the company foreman, for the native folder seemed laughing
  10. Jimmy
    Jimmy April 3 2018 22: 40
    +1
    All equipment to Serbia comes from conservation. Therefore, for that. But Serbia is the only fraternal country in all the rotten geyrop. And we need help. Time will come and we will give new weapons.
  11. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 April 3 2018 22: 47
    +3
    The ghost brigade commander Alexei Mozgov would have turned 43 today! Alexey Mozgovoy was one of the most prominent leaders of the Donbass militia. Bright memory...
  12. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor April 3 2018 23: 13
    0
    First you need to cover up the anti-aircraft defense, otherwise all the planes will simply bomb the earth, even if there are more new MANPADS, in Novorossia, the great-eyed man could be easily shook.
  13. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha April 4 2018 00: 43
    +1
    As there is no faith already friends from Europe. There were Bulgarians, now they are spoiling us everywhere. So can the Serbs. After all, Vučić is rushing about: both hotstsa and he are not breaking up with him in the European Union.
  14. Vfrcbvec3212
    Vfrcbvec3212 April 4 2018 12: 10
    0
    Serbs are what we are. Just as the Serbs in ancient times, Muslims and Catholics pitted and divided into all sorts of Croats, Bosnians and other things do not understand that ..., so we are now divided and pitted. Serbia in the CSTO, in Nis a full-fledged base. Do not think about money. Think of your children ..................