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Concern "Techmash": weapons that have not yet been

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The Scientific and Production Concern "Engineering Technologies" (NPK "Techmash") produces various military products, including a variety of weapons and ammunition. Serial products of this kind are supplied to the ground forces, aerospace forces and the fleet. In the foreseeable future, the range of products can be replenished with completely new systems. According to recent reports, Techmash plans to create several models belonging to new classes for our army.


In the last days of March, the capital of Armenia hosted the participants and guests of the international military-technical exhibition ArmHiTec-2018. A significant part of the area of ​​this event was occupied by Russian defense enterprises. Together with other representatives of Russia, NPK Tehmash participated in the exhibition. This organization showed layouts and promotional materials for several existing projects, and its leadership revealed plans for the near future.

On March 30, during the conversation with journalists, Alexander Kochkin, Deputy Director General of the concern, spoke about existing plans for the development of armaments. In parallel with the work in already developed areas it is proposed to implement new ideas. With their help, it is planned to create a promising multiple rocket launcher system with unusual capabilities, weapons for future assault unmanned aerial vehicles and weapon based on the electromagnetic pulse and the original means of intelligence.



A. Kochkin outlined one of the tasks of Tehmash for the near future. Concern plans to create a completely new MLRS of unusual appearance. The project is supposed to use certain elements of robotization. In addition, the finished system will have special tasks: with its help it will be possible to deal not only with ground targets, but also with air targets. Such a universal complex will be able to complement the existing means of air defense of small radius.

A new model of weapons is still at the stage of elaboration of the appearance, and work is being carried out on an initiative basis. According to A. Kochkin, NPK Tekhmash hopes to be interested in such a proposal by the Russian Ministry of Defense, as a result of which a full-fledged technical task for the project may appear. The MLRS of a new type, according to the concern, may be of interest to the airborne troops, marines and special forces. Their units, forced to work in isolation from the main forces, need light means of fire support, and the new salvo system may be suitable for solving such problems.

In the proposed form, the promising multi-purpose MLRS receives a rocket caliber 50-80 mm and a number of other completely new tools. Within the framework of the new project, it is proposed to create a special fire control and guidance system that meets the existing requirements. Automatic recharge will be applied. Due to sophisticated controls, the complex will be able to fire at targets at any time of the day, in any weather conditions and regardless of the existing jamming environment. Interestingly, the proposed project provides for the compatibility of the launcher with existing unguided rockets of specified calibers.

It is assumed that the universality of the new salvo fire system will allow to solve a variety of combat missions. First of all, small-caliber missiles will be used for delivering massive strikes against ground targets. The second way to use them is to shoot at aerial targets. A. Kochkin indicated that such missiles will be able to hit air targets at distances from 1,5 to 2 km. Reach height - no more than 1 km. Targets for the new missiles will be helicopters and drones of the enemy.

At the moment, the research and production concern "Tehmash" is actively developing the idea of ​​a multipurpose MLRS with the functions of an anti-aircraft missile system. The project still has no name and is not yet supported by the military. However, the developer hopes that his ideas in the near future will interest a potential customer in the person of the Russian Defense Ministry.

Another new area being developed by Tehmash Research and Production Company is close to the field of unmanned aerial vehicles. At present, the Russian defense industry is working on new shock drums of the middle and heavy class, and the ammunition manufacturer takes this into account. Work has already been launched on the creation of specialized weapons intended for use with drones.

Unfortunately, A. Kochkin did not disclose the details of work in this direction. He only mentioned that “Engineering Technologies” are working to create a combat load for shock drone vehicles. In addition, according to him, certain samples already exist. What kind of products are created, how far the work has progressed, and when real results in the form of the supply and use of such weapons should be expected - it was not specified.

The deputy general director of Tehmash recalled that in the past, domestic enterprises had already tried to create new ammunition that hit enemy equipment and equipment with a powerful electromagnetic pulse. In particular, this topic was engaged in the NGO “Splav”. Then the Russian Ministry of Defense did not wish to continue the development of this area, and there are still no orders for the creation of such weapons.

The reason is simple: the military is satisfied with the work of existing and promising ground-based and air-based electronic warfare agents, as a result of which special ammunition is not considered necessary. According to A. Kochkin, this is reflected in the new State Armaments Program. This document does not provide for the creation of electromagnetic weapons in the foreseeable future.

However, Tekhmash does not plan to abandon this promising direction and continues to work on its own initiative. The reserve for new ammunition has already been created and is being implemented in one form or another. It is assumed to create a special warhead, when triggered, generating a powerful electromagnetic pulse. Due to the high power, the latter will, at a minimum, disrupt the operation of the enemy’s electronic and other systems. In some cases it will be possible to disable the equipment.

Warheads of the new type, which have an unusual principle of operation, can be used with various delivery vehicles. A. Kochkin indicated that such charges could be used on unguided rockets for MLRS, in shells of cannon artillery and as aviation means of destruction. At the same time, apparently, so far we are talking only about a preliminary study of the issue without creating an ammunition suitable for use in practice.

The plans of SPC "Tehmash" there is another type of special ammunition designed to solve special problems. It is proposed to create an optical reconnaissance system in the form factor of a weapon of one kind or another. As is the case with some other promising concepts, the proposal for optical reconnaissance ammunition is still at the preliminary development stage. The military department did not order the creation of a complete product of this kind.

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Now enterprises from the structure of the Scientific-Production Corporation "Engineering Technologies" produce a wide variety of ammunition for various weapons systems used in all branches of the military. In this case, while we are talking about shells, rockets and shots of well-known models, using well-studied and mastered principles. Meanwhile, scientists and designers propose to create fundamentally new models of weapons and weapons of destruction, built on the original principles. If at least a part of the existing Tekhmash proposals is approved by the Ministry of Defense and accepted for implementation, in the future the army will be able to receive the most interesting weapons.

At the moment, the most interesting both from a technical and practical point of view is the proposal to create a light multipurpose multiple launch rocket system capable of destroying targets on the ground and in the air. As the head of NPK Tekhmash rightly noted, some branches of the military are forced to work in isolation from the main forces, and therefore they need special weapons. Unlike the mass of existing systems, which are in service with the Airborne Forces, marines, etc., the universal MLRS can improve the combat capability of the unit without the need to use separate combat vehicles.

As follows from the published data, while the nameless project may involve the use of existing aviation small-caliber unguided rockets C-5 or C-8, which are planned to be supplemented with new means of guidance and control. They can be launched from a light land installation, directing it to ground or air targets. “Landing” an aviation missile will provide some advantages of a production and operational nature, while at the same time allowing you to maintain the desired fighting qualities.

However, known problems are possible. The versatility of the salvo fire system will lead to a significant complication of its ground components, first of all, of the controls. On one combat vehicle, it will be necessary to use equipment for aiming weapons at ground targets, as well as instruments for searching, tracking and attacking air guns.

Finally, a universal MLRS may not be superfluous for some types of troops. So, it is proposed to use it in the airborne troops, in need of both shock weapons and air defense. However, at present, in the interests of the Airborne Forces, a specialized anti-aircraft complex with the code "Poultry Man" is being developed, which meets the special requirements of these troops. In the presence of ready-made machines of this kind, there is no need for a multipurpose MLRS.

The situation is interesting in the field of weapons using an electromagnetic pulse. A few years ago it became known that the Russian defense industry was working on similar projects, but their real results, as far as is known, have not yet reached the troops. A few days ago, the deputy general director of NPK Tekhmash clarified why this happened.

In this context, it is worth remembering news previous years. So, in the fall of 2014, reports appeared in the national press about a project called “Alabuga”, the purpose of which, it was claimed, was the creation of electromagnetic weapons. An unnamed industry representative claimed that the goal of this project was to create a special rocket carrying a powerful high-frequency radiation generator.

It was argued that the rocket would use such a “warhead” at a given point at a height of no more than 300 m from the ground. At the same time, it could "hit" enemy targets within 3,5 km. The impulse was supposed to suppress communication channels and radar, as well as disable various radio-electronic systems. According to media reports, by the middle of 2014, the Alabuga product had passed some tests.

In September last year, the concern "Radioelectronic Technologies" revealed some information about the program "Alabuga". It turned out that a project with such a name existed at the beginning of this decade, and its goal was to develop promising ways and means of electronic warfare. At the same time, it was clarified that electromagnetic weapons are indeed being developed, but the details of such projects are not to be disclosed.

Now about their plans in the promising area said SPC "Tehmash". As it turned out, the concern’s enterprises had already tried to create such weapons, but the customer, represented by the Ministry of Defense, was not interested in them. The command considered that the army could solve the existing tasks with the help of other means.

A. Kochkin also spoke about the development of aviation weapons of destruction for prospective drone drone drone. At present, Russian enterprises are creating several such UAVs at once, but they are still far from being exploited by the troops. Details of the weapons for them were not given, but you can make some assumptions. Obviously, weapons for UAVs will resemble existing types of weapons used by manned aircraft. At the same time, it will differ in size and weight, corresponding to the capabilities of its carriers. Also, you may need some innovations related to the specifics of the on-board systems of the equipment of UAVs.

The development of weapons of different types of troops should not stop, and sooner or later the army will have to master fundamentally new systems. Ways of such a modernization of the material part should be worked out in advance and with a great foundation for the future. This is what the Engineering Technologies Research and Production Concern is doing now. Perhaps not all of the proposed ideas and concepts will be implemented, but their theoretical and practical study will make a significant contribution to the renewal of the army and the strengthening of defense capability.

On the materials of the sites:
http://tecmash.ru/
http://ria.ru/
http://tass.ru/
http://rg.ru/
https://defendingrussia.ru/
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  1. Vard
    Vard April 4 2018 05: 04
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    Since the time of Katyusha, nothing has fundamentally changed ... And all these modifications are certainly good ... But maybe the simpler the better ...
    1. Flooding
      Flooding April 4 2018 07: 33
      +10
      Quote: Vard
      Since the time of Katyusha, nothing has fundamentally changed ... And all these modifications are certainly good ... But maybe the simpler the better ...

      Look wider. Nothing has changed since the war missiles of Ancient China.
      Headgear, armor, rockets ...
    2. gridasov
      gridasov April 4 2018 20: 42
      +2
      And, that it’s easier to throw a stone just like pushing a core or in a big way. They just choose the whole energy-intensive way like pushing.
    3. Lycan
      Lycan April 6 2018 13: 21
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      Quote: Vard
      But maybe the simpler the better ...

      Cobblestone for example?
  2. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 4 2018 06: 52
    +3
    An interesting message, if only because it provides “food” (information) for thought! I generally like the idea, if only because I myself had similar “projections”, and therefore I seem to be able to imagine the “concoction” of “TEHMASH”, guided by its own “projects”. But “everything flows, everything changes” Now I would make some changes. For example: it’s worth thinking about the 2 “varieties” of MLRS. One type of MLRS-caliber 57-80 (mm) .... (better-80 mm) This installation should be "oriented" to use both against ground targets and against airborne (drones, helicopters) .. Eres should be like uncontrollable (including with the "rudiments of intelligence": for example, programmable fuses), and adjustable. The second type of MLRS is made with a caliber, for example, 50-mm (40-mm is not excluded) and oriented towards the performance of missile defense. The objective of the installation is to combat small UAVs, nurses, artillery shells, mortar mines and guided (!) Missiles (RVP, including PRR ...) Lockheed Martin (EAPS) and Raytheon (Ai3) develop hope for success. By the way, as a means of object defense and the data indicated by Techmash will come down (1,5-2 km and 1 km ) Against helicopters, a weapon with such data is a bad manners!
    1. Spook
      Spook April 4 2018 15: 31
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      I personally don’t like your ideas, or I don’t understand something, such a caliber of jet weapons is not effective and loses in price to the solution of the artillery, the only advantage, in my opinion, of a similar caliber of missiles over a projectile is the ability to actively control the rocket during flight
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I April 4 2018 17: 23
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        Quote: Spook
        a similar caliber reactive weapons are not effective

        Firstly: it is necessary to think over the "niche" of application: where is it better to apply and how to apply ... (even ... is it there?); Secondly: try it!
        Quote: Spook
        or I don’t understand something

        Do not worry ! yes Judging by the responses, no one understood .... neither me, nor Techmash .. wink recourse
      2. Greyjojo
        Greyjojo April 4 2018 22: 57
        +1
        As far as I know, at the price of a shot, the MLRS loses to barrel artillery at any calibers.
        MLRS advantages:
        1) long range
        2) volley speed and fire density.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I April 5 2018 00: 47
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          Quote: GreyJoJo
          2) volley speed and fire density.

          So .... If "somewhere and once" someone really needs "volley speed and fire density", then this "someone" "will not stand for the price" ....
        2. Spook
          Spook April 5 2018 09: 46
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          Well, actually, I’m talking about the fact that MLRS should be used just where the projectile doesn’t reach, before that the shell is cheaper, and even closer the mine is cheaper, if you don’t need to pierce the armor and just deliver the ammunition to the target
      3. Lycan
        Lycan April 6 2018 13: 26
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        Quote: Spook
        such a caliber, jet weapons are not effective and lose in the price of the decision of the barrel artillery

        For enemy infantry, camps, bridges, mobile. points of radio equipment, sabotage of local airfields and parking of light cars - very suitable.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 5 2018 02: 47
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      PS In the option "57-80 mm" (more appropriate, "72-80 mm"), it is possible to provide for the use of missiles from the ammunition of the "shell" ... of the so-called "nails" ... to consider the possibility of using "nails" on ground targets. One way or another, but it’s worth “focusing” on creating a “bicomponent” (multi-purpose) missile capable of “working” on ground and air targets. You can consider creating such a missile on the “base” of C-8 core (for the sake of cheaper ...) The missile should have a semi-active laser seeker (as an option), multipurpose (cumulative-high-explosive fragmentation) and, possibly, fragmentation-beam warheads, pulse correction (as an option), two-stage (with separation of the launch stage) scheme. Speed ​​is sufficient to deal with subsonic air targets (transonic or slightly higher Mach number ...).
      The system should be produced in two “varieties” (Mod.I - '' 72-80 mm '' and Mod.II - '' 40-50 mm '') ... the options are "formed" by replacing the "packages" of guides and by changing the software (software) for changing the algorithms of “operation.” In the system of object air defense, “72-80 mm” installations “work” at the middle boundary (similar to Ai3) ... “40-50 mm” installations are at the near boundary ( similar to EAPS)
    3. Siberian54
      Siberian54 24 May 2018 14: 22
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      You may have forgotten about the new generation of javelin-type pturs bouncing before an object’s attack at a decent height.
  3. tchoni
    tchoni April 4 2018 07: 52
    +2
    I read .... and immediately in my head a remix of "German tank crew" - "sorry there is no super-wunderwaffe, otherwise they would have taken Washington." And it immediately becomes scary. If our MLRS designers, instead of thinking how to increase the range of application, accuracy, reduce non-shooting areas, improve target reconnaissance, facilitate target designation, think how to use the MLRS to make an anti-aircraft gun .... Well, that’s not a coffee machine ....
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 4 2018 09: 36
      +4
      Quote: tchoni
      If our MLRS designers instead of thinking how to increase the range of application

      No less problem for MLRS is the "proximity" of the application.
      The more long-range the complex, the greater its minimum firing range, closer to which it is impractical to shoot.
      1. tchoni
        tchoni April 4 2018 12: 14
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        and I talked about it
        Quote: Spade
        , reduce the non-shooting areas,

        Maybe not very well, of course. But I'm a signalman, not an artilleryman.
        1. Svidetel 45
          Svidetel 45 April 4 2018 22: 14
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          Usually they say "dead zone", i.e. the zone closest to the means of fire destruction, in which their effectiveness is zero or very low.
    2. businessv
      businessv April 4 2018 21: 44
      +1
      Quote: tchoni
      how MLRS make anti-aircraft guns .... Well, that is not a coffee machine ....

      IMHO, TEHMASH was concerned about the minimum volume and weight of the MLRS (for the Airborne Forces) with maximum efficiency in solving various problems and hitting targets. Everything is fine here, I didn’t notice any discrepancies because the very purpose of the troops is appropriate.
  4. Curious
    Curious April 4 2018 08: 48
    +3
    The author in his style - on a barrel of water, three drops of information that "shape is formed." It’s interesting, and who in Techmash will form these “looks”. The only developer in Russia MLRS. NPO "Fusion" "Rostec" "Techmash" did not seem to give.
    In general, lately this is some kind of trend. Instead of demonstrating real developments, discussions are being shown about "shaping the appearance of" some "unavailable analogs" with the completion of work in the next fifteen or twenty years. Just like Nassreddin
  5. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 April 4 2018 09: 09
    +2
    In general, it’s probably good to develop technology, but the MLRS generally has other tasks. RZSO work on the area. And here is an attempt from RZSO to make high-precision weapons, and even an attempt to adapt them to the needs of air defense. It would be necessary to compare the cost of a full salvo in the destruction of at least typical targets at the landfill. It smacks of budget cuts. Or does it seem to me alone?
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 4 2018 10: 31
      +4
      Quote: Alex2048
      MLRS generally have other tasks. RZSO work on the area. And here is an attempt from RZSO to make high-precision weapons and even an attempt to adapt to

      Your “misfortune” is that you think in stereotypes! You have no “fantasy”! In this case, there is no need to let out the entire charge in some kind of "area"! Such an installation will have modes: "single" and "turn"! The advantages of such a system are flexibility in the use of ammunition with various warheads and control systems (or without control) ... the ability to "form" fired, queues, with a rate of fire and duration not available for artillery installations ...
      1. Curious
        Curious April 4 2018 12: 19
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        Will there be a cut-off for three shots, or only single and automatic?
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I April 4 2018 12: 50
          +2
          Quote: Curious
          Will there be a cut-off for three shots, or only single and automatic?

          And it depends on which modification you will take wink .... for your money, any option! fellow
          1. Curious
            Curious April 4 2018 13: 41
            +1
            Will you make a multi-caliber? So that all the triple Nurses could be shot?
            1. Aleks2048
              Aleks2048 April 4 2018 13: 58
              +1
              Probably it is possible and multi-caliber, but here we are more prone to small things. Here, in the comments above, even 40 mm is suggested ... And this is apparently not the limit ... I think in the area of ​​5,45 we will stop ... laughing
              1. Curious
                Curious April 4 2018 14: 18
                +1

                Such, only 5,45 mm?
            2. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I April 4 2018 17: 12
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              Quote: Curious
              Will you make a multi-caliber?

              And yak! fellow By all means! yes The "base" for the complex should be one (maximally reprogrammable by function). And by replacing the "packets", it is formed ,, or Mod.I (caliber "72-80 mm") for firing at ground targets and at air (unmanned aerial vehicles - more beautiful, helicopters ...); or Mod.II (with the caliber "40-50 mm") as a means of object-based air defense (smaller drones, nurses, mortar mines, artillery shells, air-launched missiles RVP ...)
        2. RL
          RL April 4 2018 13: 19
          +3
          We, like, were running around with the CZ 805 BREN with a cut-off, there was such a fashion, and decided not to repeat this mistake again. We do the new CZ BREN 2 without cutoff and the guys are happy. Single and turn! All.
        3. Svidetel 45
          Svidetel 45 April 4 2018 22: 15
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          Is this humor?
          1. Curious
            Curious April 4 2018 22: 19
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            Do you like joking with weapons? This is extremely dangerous.
      2. Aleks2048
        Aleks2048 April 4 2018 13: 29
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        I hope that flexibility is a joke ... laughing
        Dragging a rig with a bunch of guides for a single shot? And I almost forgot to drag not only the installation, but at least different sets of ammunition, because shooting a burst, or even with a cut-off of gold ammunition, can be expensive. Speaking of mobility, as they don’t want to give such a RZSO to everyone, but in the MTR the presence of a radar will probably become a special cherry ... For surgical strikes, everyone has already invented called MSTA with a suitable Krasnopol projectile. hi
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I April 4 2018 14: 17
          +1
          Quote: Alex2048
          I hope that flexibility is a joke

          I used the wrong word.
          Quote: Alex2048
          Dragging a rig with a bunch of guides for a single shot?

          Yes, do not drag anything! Basically, this installation should be “riveted” as a means of an object-based air defense system (Mod.II) with a caliber of approximately 50 mm! As an alternative to the NATO "Centurion '', MANTIS! Must" guard "objects, not" drag "somewhere! Perhaps (as a" bonus "), by replacing the" package "of guides to create Mod.I caliber (72-80 mm) , but all this on some landing gear or is flown by helicopter (in the future, by a drone). Mod.I can be used both as a means of fire support and as an anti-helicopter, “anti-drone” air defense system, for example, airborne defense units. 72-80 mm) is created on the basis of MANPADS "Igla-S", "Willow" with increased range and "altitude" .... those "ground-to-ground" - like the Israeli "Mini-Spike" or C-8core ......
          1. Aleks2048
            Aleks2048 April 4 2018 23: 11
            +1
            For example, the Airborne Forces will be delighted! laughing They are not the most mobile fist in the army ... laughing They are thrown at the nth distance of the adversary to the rear and at the same time they say that you’ll go with you on a certain platform (God forbid the tank, otherwise they did the terminator on it) and also MLRS, and so you guys do not have to carry an air defense system with you just your MLRS to take a second set of guides, well, and the second set of ammunition is apparently less in volume and weight than the first because it is for your air defense. And such a commander in response says: “for starters, let the enemy at least detect us” and don’t worry about the radar burning him as soon as you turn it on that crap that occupies half of the transport plane and to which an additional set of ammunition and guides is attached. laughing I hope that the new MLRS transport-loading apparatus is not required? laughing
            By the way, who, with the proposed characteristics, will such an air defense protect? What chassis is needed for it? Which radar will we install? Recharge Speed? And if this RZSO / air defense is stationary, then it does not just get soldered by cutting the budget, but it stinks because it does not replace the same Grad as a RZSO, but as an air defense it is clearly inferior to such a system as a shell. And can these mod1 and mod2 kits be changed in the field or only on an equipped base? If in the field, then a reasonable question about the time of such a module replacement?
            1. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I April 5 2018 01: 18
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              Quote: Alex2048
              For example, the Airborne Forces will be delighted!

              Airborne "turned up" in the list! And so .... what do we need the Airborne Forces? "Do not like it, do not eat!" ...
              Something "rested" on the system (72-80 mm), and I see the priority in the system with the caliber 50 mm (air defense facility!). There is a radar and an optoelectronic module in the system configuration (it’s not necessary to light up every time) "...) Besides .... what is this pathological fear of" glowing "? After all, often you have to do it! As the saying goes: "peeps, but eats." "Charter to dish nadot"! In general, to carry out a set of organizational and tactical activities so as not to quickly light up. And why was it so "imagined" that the MLRS should replace the "Grad", "Shell"? This is nowhere "said" anywhere! MLRS should complement other weapons or find its niche.
            2. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre 7 May 2018 21: 04
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              And if this RZSO / air defense is stationary, then it is not just soldered from it by cutting the budget
              You forgot to mention that the stationary MLRS in the modern world still smacks of low resistance to counter-battery combat. The mobile system shmalnul volley and dumped away from the answer. A stationary?
    2. tol100v
      tol100v April 4 2018 20: 16
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      Quote: Alex2048
      Or does it seem to me alone?

      If you apply the cliche: - Or is it a coincidence?
  6. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 4 2018 14: 44
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    The fact that they work and develop is pleasing! God grant! So that they do not remain idle at all. And if you need to create something, then just shake our Kulibins a little, and from them ideas and developments will sprinkle like peas from a holey bag. What, what, and people like to invent and invent, we don’t feed with bread! And if they pay for it too! Ltd! Then generally the guard! Ideas will be born 28 hours a day! On that stood, stands and will stand our Russia!
  7. Evgenii Xolod
    Evgenii Xolod April 4 2018 16: 00
    +2
    And why do we need a complex with distances of 2 and height of 1, if a helicopter can beat from 5 km ?????
    1. tol100v
      tol100v April 4 2018 20: 18
      +2
      Quote: Evgenii Xolod
      And why do we need a complex with distances of 2 and height 1

      To meet the inspection check! Fireworks from the budget of the MO!
  8. Donetsk
    Donetsk April 4 2018 17: 53
    +1
    Our unfortunate designers decided to steal a maximum of money from funds for OCD, while doing nothing! Dill and ISIS have been welding B-8 blocks to Motolyg for several years now! The accuracy of such crafts is extremely low, with an absolutely enchanting show with a volley!
    1. businessv
      businessv April 4 2018 21: 57
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      Quote: Donetsk
      Our unfortunate designers decided to steal a maximum of money from funds for OCD, while doing nothing!

      Colleague, not only do you read inattentively, but the author has repeatedly emphasized - "on an initiative basis"! This means, at the expense of the establishment, gentlemen! In the hope that these developments will be of interest to our MO.
      1. Donetsk
        Donetsk April 5 2018 07: 08
        +1
        You misinterpret the expression “on an initiative basis.” Since the days of the USSR, any initiative in the field of armaments and dual-use products has been severely punished! Until the end of 2017, manufacturers, with the aim of participating in tenders for obtaining any significant funds for R&D, presented their concept of vision of new weapons! If successful, the "concept" turned into an "initiative"! However, at the end of 2017, the Moscow Region received the right to independently distribute the funds of the state defense order through 2027 inclusive! After that, all statements from the category of "on an initiative basis" began to be exclusively populist in nature!
  9. tank64rus
    tank64rus April 4 2018 19: 27
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    if only there was money.
  10. Sergey Enoktaev
    Sergey Enoktaev April 5 2018 01: 11
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    Inattentively read. Shells with a stuffing for radio electronic suppression. Here accuracy is not needed, radius of action is important. Small-sized complex in full. And a lot of it is not necessary. 1, 2 per division. Although I could catch it on a helicopter, I flew along the route and shot, created silence on the air. If the RA had this in Chechnya, otherwise I like to play war games, really, to kill.)
    1. Donetsk
      Donetsk April 5 2018 07: 42
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      Ammunition with short-term EMP has existed since the creation of the first atomic bomb! Small-sized ammunition has been used in our power structures for over 40 years! Only these ammunition is used when conducting counter-terrorism and reconnaissance and sabotage measures in sharply limited areas due to the extremely short radius and low power of the EMP of these ammunition! To block the radio-frequency ranges, ground and airborne electronic warfare equipment with directional radiation of high power are used to selectively destroy RES! In Chechnya, such funds were in bulk, incl. and on the Bee UAV-PM!
  11. Donetsk
    Donetsk April 5 2018 10: 27
    +1
    As for the project "Birds" and shock UAVs, then we can say the following! The Ptitselov is the usual adaptation of the Pantsir air defense missile defense system (first proposed in 1995 on the BMP-3 chassis) for the BMD-4M platform, in order to replace the Sosna airborne anti-aircraft missile system, the effectiveness of which has been found to be lower than the effectiveness of the memory -23 / 30M1-3 with MANPADS "Verba". Impact UAVs, which have been in trial operation in the military since 2016, in particular, the light attack UAV "Burevestnik", are designed to incapacitate destroyers like "Arly Burke" at a distance of up to 4000 km from the launch point! And let the word "easy" not bother you, the warhead is guaranteed to send the ship to the bottom! At the same time, the widely advertised Aegis system cannot detect this UAV!
    1. KVIRTU
      KVIRTU April 6 2018 20: 03
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      Oh, that Shell. Where they just shove it, and the fleet, and in the Arctic. There are not so many helicopters with reservation elements in NATO, for which it was commissioned by the Emirates, in the full sense, on an initiative basis. You might think that the S-300 division, for example, is the main enemy of helicopters. Give the troops Torah, Tunguska, Verba in sufficient quantities.
      To invent anti-aircraft PSU for MLRS is nonsense. MANPADS, memory is enough, and the speed of the guidance drives will not allow.
      According to helicopter pilots, small-caliber NURSs on soft soil and sand are ineffective. The depth is too large, the charge is small, the accuracy is so-so. Although there is a lot of noise and fear.