Secret topographic maps of the General Staff could have flowed abroad. FSB stopped

The FSB office in the Sverdlovsk region, together with representatives of the FSB department for the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol, conducted an operation that prevented the transfer of secret military maps to representatives of a foreign state. The press service of the ministry says that, in particular, we are talking about topographic secret data.

TASS cites the statement of the representative of the press service:

The activities of a group of persons involved in the illegal collection for the subsequent transfer of secret military topographic materials to a foreign party were stopped. Thus, at the same time operational and investigative measures were taken at the places of residence of three Russian citizens and a citizen of Ukraine in the cities of Yekaterinburg, Simferopol and Omsk, during which electronic and paper copies of secret topographic maps of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation were found and seized.

It was noted that earlier one of the detainees had already been prosecuted for committing a crime under the article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Treason”.

The FSB department in the Sverdlovsk region says that the detainees were “officially warned” about the inadmissibility of actions related to the threat to the security of the Russian Federation.

Particularly noteworthy is the following phrase:

All the detainees acknowledged that by their actions they created a threat to the security of the Russian Federation and refused to commit such acts in the future.

And the one who was already serving a sentence for state treason?

From where the detainees had secret topographic maps of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the material of the department is not reported.

Comments

[Alexey-74]

Interestingly, and who has access to topographic maps of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ??? If it's a special print. then the control should be the most severe .... and if the rat is in the Ministry of Defense?

[K-50]

Quote: Alexey-74

Interestingly, and who has access to topographic maps of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ??? If it's a special print. then the control should be the most severe .... and if the rat is in the Ministry of Defense?

There still documents of the General Staff were found and something else, on all kinds of media.
Here is the boil !!!

The detainees pleaded guilty and promised that they would not do so in the future. Previously, one of them was already held accountable for treason.

Kindergarten, pants on the straps.
Shoot!!!

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: K-50

Kindergarten, pants on the straps.
Shoot!!!

Do you seriously think that good nerds are engaged in state security issues, most of all being careful to offend with an incautious word? Yah?
If the FSB considered in this case to do so (to let such information into the people), then it is necessary. Dot.

[Servisinzhener]

Very similar to that. Sperli cards and documents - a warning. And my aunt sent SMS to Georgia and after 8 years she was taken under the little white hands.

[Shurik70]

Lipa, in my opinion.
Modern communication tools allow you to send a photo to the Internet as soon as it got into the lens. And leave spies with microfilms to films about the 70s
If only an amateur, who at his own peril and risk decided to earn a bit in the homeland

[Serg koma]

On the cards of the General Staff of the 80s there is a stamp - "Sov. Secret", what they show is very similar to these cards, at present the value is only original from collectors, and so - the whole Internet is littered. Formally, for a stamp, you can easily pull up to the criminal.

[Serg koma]

Screen from the reportage RT "A video of the FSB operation to suppress the transfer of secret military cards abroad" was published https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/499398-video-f
sb-military-karty
Data cards on the Internet a dime a dozen, at present, Internet resources have begun to remove the "hat" - "GEN. STAFF" and "Sov.secretno" ....
Who cares - the same sheet, only ed. 1976

completely here http://moy-ural.ru/karty/sverdlovskaya/o-40-132.j
pg
If I spent another 30-40 minutes, I would have found 1980.

[sabakina]

Quote: Serg Koma

Serg koma

Serg Koma, I see a leaf, I do not fjuf anymore. What, so completely secreted?

[Serg koma]

Do you want to become a spinner ??? Download "The General Staff, secretly, 1977. MAIDAN. Http://freemap.com.ua/maps/rkka-500m/M-34-131-2.j
pg
So you got into the spy network, for using state secrets, without authorization for admission. But if you try to transfer it to someone else ......
PS

Quote: sabakina

I see the sheet, I don’t fizu anymore.

Quote: Serg Koma

Who cares - the same sheet, only ed. 1976 completely here http://moy-ural.ru/karty/sverdlovskaya/o-40-132.j
pg

[hohkn]

Quote: Serg Koma

Currently, only original value is among collectors, and so - the whole Internet is littered

You will be surprised, but they are still secret. Received about five years ago the 1984 card. Registered as secret.
By and large, only the applied situation can represent the secret, and the terrain in the age of satellites is the secret of the Open.

[Serg koma]

Quote: hohkn

You will be surprised, but they are still secret. Received about five years ago the 1984 card. Registered as secret.

At least 10 years these cards are freely distributed on the internet, at least on my computer were .... I’m surprised at this - when they suck things out of their fingers and let people down for a specific term for the sake of indicators and a high-profile case.
Personally, my opinion is that the data from the time of the USSR (published in the media in the present case) are interesting in the original to collectors, which actually caught trying to sell this product to interested parties.
In the city of Omsk, the cartographic factory http://okf55.ru/katalog/karty, it is quite possible that samples of products from the USSR were still stored in the archive, which "initiative comrades" tried to sell profitably.

[Warrior with machine gun]

all the same, foolishness, as he had already served time for treason, was able to get to the data again, for such "vigilance", in case of conflict, you have to pay later with a large number of human lives ((

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: Warrior with a machine gun

all the same, foolishness, as he had already served time for treason, was able to get to the data again, for such "vigilance", in case of conflict, you have to pay later with a large number of human lives ((

I repeat: If the FSB considered in this case to do so (to let such information into the people), then it should be so. Dot.
I explain. We don’t know too much here. More precisely, we only know what we thought was necessary to inform the FSB. We can only speculate. It is possible that this titled state treason was specially launched into the aviary and the seeds were added to reveal weak links. It is possible that the treason was awarded another military rank. There are many, many more options that we do not know about and should not know.

[Hire]

The secret services are cunning. Why the FSB and not counterintelligence and military prosecutors? The cards are secret, but they simply scolded the wicked ... Dark history.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Hire

Dark story.

fake .... enemies apologized and were released ..... 10 times ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Hire

The secret services are cunning. Why the FSB and not counterintelligence and military prosecutors? The cards are secret, but they simply scolded the wicked ... Dark history.

Nothing dark here. Who dug the information, he realized it. General Staff topographic maps have not been updated for a long time, and those that are mostly were compiled in the 60s and partially supplemented in the 80s. With the collapse of the USSR, all these cards remained in the breakaway republics and regions, and therefore the neck was lowered from secret to "Particleboard", which in general helped these "citizens" avoid criminal liability. On these maps today there are no more than half of the settlements that existed earlier, there are no new roads, and the indicated old roads are half overgrown with forest and exist conditionally. The only good thing about them is a clear description of the terrain, soils, the presence of fords, the composition of the bottom of the rivers (sand or stone), the flow velocity, the characteristics of the swamps and their patency, etc. These cards (by region) are in any military registration and enlistment office, from which they removed their epaulets and they are mostly serviced by civilian personnel. Most likely the leak was from there, and therefore came to the attention of the FSB, and not counterintelligence.

[helmi8]

Quote: Nyrobsky

General Staff topographic maps have not been updated for a long time, and those that are mostly were compiled in the 60s and partially supplemented in the 80s

That's for sure. Now on the Google satellite images more information ...

[Hire]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Most likely the leak was from there, and therefore came to the attention of the FSB, and not counterintelligence.

That's how everything is clear. The question is removed.

[igordok]

Quote: Nyrobsky

These cards (by district) are in any military commissariat

These cards in RuNet are not measured. Different years. At one time, there were difficulties publishing these maps. Now it’s relieved again.

[your1970]

the situation is simple as two fingers - they were seized from them OLD Soviet maps of the General Staff on a scale of more than 1: 25000. These cards on formal grounds (scale and so on) - have the stamp "secret." The actual content is a secret for a long time to anyone, including ordinary citizens. The situation, the locality, settlements, etc. have changed very much during this time ... domestic Jeepiesuke is much higher. The sites that allow you to use maps on the Internet are full

In addition, under the current Criminal Code, state secrets can be attracted for disclosure only if:
x.NUMX
"1. Disclosure of information constituting a state secret, a person to whom she was entrusted or became known for service, work, study or in other cases stipulated by the legislation of the Russian Federation, if this information became public other persons"
- the person obviously had no admissions and had no relationship for work / service / study, and did not have time to transfer them to other persons

That is why the criminal case was not brought - and warned of misconduct

[Grandfather]

electronic and paper copies of secret topographic maps of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

But how the hell ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: your1970

Old Soviet maps of the General Staff with a scale of more than 1: 25000 were seized from them. These cards on formal grounds (scale and so on) - have the stamp "secret." Actual content is no secret to anyone long ago, including ordinary citizens

The funny thing is that these cards were sold in the 90s. In the form of atlases.

[your1970]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: your1970

Old Soviet maps of the General Staff with a scale of more than 1: 25000 were seized from them. These cards on formal grounds (scale and so on) - have the stamp "secret." Actual content is no secret to anyone long ago, including ordinary citizens

The funny thing is that these cards were sold in the 90s. In the form of atlases.

- everything from 1: 25000 (1: 50000-1: 100000 and above) can be published by anyone and any

[Cap.nemo58rus]

And where does the “formal signs" mean? Is the secrecy stamp worth it? It’s worth. This means the document and is strictly registered. And specific people are responsible for it. And if the document is outdated and no longer relevant, then it is destroyed by act (also, by the way, secret), and a person without an appropriate form of admission should not even see him. So "farting" does not roll. Many will be scolded by the glands themselves.

[your1970]

Quote: Cap.Nemo58rus

And where does the “formal signs" mean? Is the secrecy stamp worth it? It’s worth. This means the document and is strictly registered. And specific people are responsible for it. And if the document is outdated and no longer relevant, then it is destroyed by act (also, by the way, secret), and a person without an appropriate form of admission should not even see him. So "farting" does not roll. Many will be scolded by the glands themselves.

-Oh, yes !! only now you don’t know apparently that in the 90s ofoferdofig the military unit was liquidated, and accordingly the property was abandoned, it was simply abandoned ... including scary secret papers, devices and so on ....
In Orenburg in Totsky in the 90s, on the basis of the elimination of aircraft, a car of gilded ShRovsky connectors was sown - but they were found 23 30 mm EXTRA helicopter guns (unaccounted for at all !!) ...

Quote: Cap.Nemo58rus

. So "farthing" does not roll.

- rolls, rolls completely and everything is absolutely legal.

Quote: Cap.Nemo58rus

. Many will have the most tonsils.

- if a person is related to the "secret" now - yes, they will blow the most according to 283 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. If the admission period has expired, but there is no access, then "blowing" is already very problematic and Art. UK does not shine for him

[Cap.nemo58rus]

I don’t know how it was in the 90s, maybe it’s time to forget about it. And now, in our “kingdom”, in any case, the regime is tightening every year. Specialists drive with a sting, you won’t be fooled.

[Spartanez300]

What kind of wording is this “official warning”. They are now warned and released. But what about treason.

[svp67]

Quote: Alexey-74

and who has access to topographic maps of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ???

Yes, a lot of people ... After the collapse of the harmonious system of the USSR, many cards turned out to be with many. And the value of the cards with changes after 2015 .... that is, FRESH.

[iouris]

Quote: Alexey-74

But what if the rat is in the Ministry of Defense?

No, no rats, Anglo-phile current.

[Vladimir Ter-Odiyants]

Quote: Alexey-74

Interestingly, and who has access to topographic maps of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ??? If it's a special print. then the control should be the most severe .... and if the rat is in the Ministry of Defense?

Rats, taperchas have been divorced before the fig. It seems to me that we are not talking about a pre-planned operation of special services, "states" friendly to you. Rather, a one-time action, to earn extra money. I think, seriously, we would use another data transmission channel.

[iouris]

Apparently, the cards are not only secret, but also liquid.

[K-50]

How many geeks are there in the country who want to sell the safety of their relatives, friends, acquaintances, and just neighbors for denyuzhku overseas.
To shoot and all short-lived !!!
Well, or let uranium be mined for the country.

[Oprychnik2]

"To shoot and all the short time !!!"

Nah. Smoothly. Better buckwheat feed!

[Observer2014]

I honestly vaguely understand this, what can now be secret in topographic maps. Previously, of course. But now? Open Google Earth, and ... Maybe there was something secret on these cards. Then yes.

[Speedy]

Special cables, bunkers, special roads, fords, ZKP, etc. A lot of things are not visible on Google.

[rotmistr60]

Special cables, bunkers, special roads, fords, ZKP, etc.

What are you talking about? We are talking about cards that are printed on the card factories for the needs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Only a topographic reference to the area that is real is secret. If we were talking about maps with a printed environment, including how to write "Special cables, bunkers, special roads, fords, ZKP etc., "the" Official Warning "business did not end there.

[Speedy]

Yes, I'm not talking about this, I'm talking about Google)).

[basmach]

Do you think they are on such cards. In 90, I had the opportunity to serve with the "deaf-mute". And then one day they read to us (in 95 or 96) an appeal from the "Chechens" that they would type retaliate in the Far Eastern Federal District because of the Marines. Nonsense, we did not perceive it. After a couple of weeks along the VET, a dozen people in camouflage with backpacks and assault rifles are dripping onto our perimeter. The hour truncated (there were no conscripts, officers went on guard, the ensign and the heels of the contract mat) called out as expected. Those pulled their claws. He reported to the guardhouse (I'm talking about the symbol). Sentry in the gun. From the garrison, a reinforcement group led by the chief of staff. But not caught. The rustle of a lot. It turns out (later, at the analysis we were told) that the exercises had the task of making rustles in the auto-battalion, and the location of our unit on their maps was absent, no one knew about it at all and they came to us by accident and were shocked from all that followed.
The most interesting thing is that this landing (there were two brigades from which I do not know) was intended for our strengthening and protection and defense. Then they came to meet us to practice joint actions. That's like that

[tractor driver73]

Is it visible on the cards?

[Sergey824]

What kind of maps did you see zkp, bunkers, special cables? Poultry farms, pioneer camps, etc. signatures on them flaunt. It was not about the commander’s working cards.

[Cxnumx]

Quote: Observer2014

I honestly vaguely understand this, what can now be secret in topographic maps. Previously, of course. But now? We open "Google planet Earth" and ... Maybe there was a secret on these maps. Then yes.

Well, you offer gunners on Google maps a tip to do where there are no heights or anchors)) they certainly can, but first they will be sent along the route. it will be long and difficult))

[AlexVas44]

Quote: K0

... but first sent along the route. it will be long and difficult))

It must be assumed that the route without a neck and, as always, there too ....

[Heterocapsa]

It was noted that earlier one of the detainees had already been prosecuted for committing a crime under the article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Treason”.

Shoot, interrogate, then shoot again, then put him in prison for life, then for the grave to be 600 years behind bars. Then dig it again, then shoot in the crematorium, then the ashes urn in the deepest bottom of the Pacific Ocean.

[Masya masya]

All the detainees acknowledged that by their actions they created a threat to the security of the Russian Federation and refused to commit such acts in the future.

like ... uncle, we won’t be anymore ... and that’s it ???

[KVU-NSVD]

A muddy story. Military cards - documents are strictly confidential, the number of paper copies is accountable, and they can be "downloaded to a flash drive" only when accessing certain and, to put it mildly, inaccessible terminals. I hope that among the detainees there is a source of these things, because having access to these materials, he has access automatically and to a heap of what else ..

[your1970]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

A muddy story. Military cards - documents are strictly confidential, the number of paper copies is accountable, and they can be "downloaded to a flash drive" only when accessing certain and, to put it mildly, inaccessible terminals. I hope that among the detainees there is a source of these things, because having access to these materials, he has access automatically and to a heap of what else ..

Have you read the article?NO there is a source - therefore, a "warning", and not 283 of the Criminal Code

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: your1970

Have you read the article? There is no source there - therefore, a "warning", and not 283 of the Criminal Code

I read the article, but do you think everyone is telling the press with utmost frankness? If the disclosure of the source is harmful, then you and I will most likely not know about it ..

[your1970]

yes it is with a guarantee of 90% - "black" diggers

[Vol4ara]

This is some kind of sur ... Caught by 3 people who have secret cards and who admitted to being willing to transfer them, one of them was previously convicted of treason and .... And they are given a warning! AHAH what nonsense?

[svp67]

It was noted that earlier one of the detainees had already been prosecuted for committing a crime under the article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Treason”.

That is, a RECIDIVIST?

The FSB department in the Sverdlovsk region says that the detainees were “officially warned” about the inadmissibility of actions related to the threat to the security of the Russian Federation.
...
All the detainees acknowledged that by their actions they created a threat to the security of the Russian Federation and refused to commit such acts in the future.

something I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. They put them in a corner and held them until they asked for forgiveness, so what? This one is now being punished for actions DIRECTLY threatening the security of our Fatherland? Yes, let's go far ...

[Masya masya]

Quote: svp67

. They put them in a corner and until they asked for forgiveness, so what?

not ... not even put in a corner, threatened with a finger ...

[svp67]

Quote: Masya Masya

not ... not even put in a corner, threatened with a finger ...

Well, for this, at least with a slipper, it was necessary to spank ...

[Black water]

that you are all: execute and execute, IF this news is true, then they will tell and show everything and will render full assistance in connection with complete repentance.

[Wilderness]

This is by chance not the same maps of the "General Staff", popular among backpackers who can dig on the Internet? So they are all 40-50s, they must be forcibly thrown by the enemy))). Perhaps I’ll erase them from the communicator, away from sin (otherwise I’ll also be credited to the speeches). Once we received such NS on a business trip, he was still extreme.

[svp67]

Quote: Wilderness

This is by chance not the same maps of the "General Staff", popular among backpackers who can dig on the Internet?

Here, of course, you need to understand, below these cards have a postscript, when corrections are made, if after 1991, then yes, it’s better to destroy ...

[Wilderness]

No, there are no posts, they were interesting to me from a historical point of view, there are many settlements and roads indicated which alas no longer exist (((

[svp67]

Quote: Wilderness

there are many settlements and roads indicated which alas no longer exist (((

But no, there is NO COURT ... You can sleep peacefully

[KERMET]

No matter how these are the same “spies” as a well-known man with a GPS tracker with alliexpres for his cow. The FSB still has those entertainers ...

[Sofa expert]

It’s good that we didn’t have time, if we had time to sell this information, then our soldiers would have to change the terrain .. manually ..

[Sergey824]

Ours have nothing more to do? The phrase "secret topographic maps" in the age of smartphones is already causing laughter! Really worth military unit, warehouses, etc. and on the map is the signature pioneer camp, poultry farm. So it turns out only until he poked his forehead into the fence, I repeat, the Internet somehow does not exist. So what? And taking them to let go? Bottom line: the repeat offender for the state treason "understood and forgiven"!

[Berkut24]

It is naive to think that cards on electronic media have not yet leaked. But the spies themselves did not have time to leak. And that is not bad.

[mavrus]

As a result, for trying to transfer documents with the signature stamp "secretly", they threatened with a finger and said ay-ay-ay ...

[Xscorpion]

Quote: Alexey-74

Interestingly, and who has access to topographic maps of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ??? If it's a special print. then the control should be the most severe .... and if the rat is in the Ministry of Defense?

Hundreds of thousands of people, ranging from any lieutenant commander of a platoon to staff members of printing houses.

Quote: Observer2014

I honestly vaguely understand this, what can now be secret in topographic maps. Previously, of course. But now? Open Google Earth, and ... Maybe there was something secret on these cards. Then yes.

There is nothing secret besides rectangular coordinates, but artillery, aircraft, etc. are pointed at these coordinates, and on ordinary maps, geographical coordinates are completely different.

[sib.ataman]

Do not share! The report is for show, not for notification. The Cheka does not like to share secrets and secrets. It's time to get used to it.

[Servisinzhener]

Well, nifiga, imagine, stole secret cards and got off with a warning? And one of them was involved in high treason. Directly not the FSB, but a cartoon about Dasha the ranger. They said 3 times: - Do not steal a crook and let go. But at the same time they put in prison aunts who sent an SMS to Georgia that they saw military equipment that was being transported by rail towards Abkhazia. Without any disguise, during the day and at the peak of the holiday season when the same technique was seen by many thousands of vacationers since Railways run both over beaches and through all coastal villages. Moreover, they plant it 8 years after the events. What kind of work is this ?!

[NordUral]

Yes, they won’t be like that anymore. Will be so as not to get caught.

[Baloo]

The FSB department in the Sverdlovsk region says that the detainees were “officially warned” about the inadmissibility of actions related to the threat to the security of the Russian Federation.

Is this what the Cheka is now threatening with treason?
On the other hand, they did not manage to pass on and did not kill anyone. In fact, why punish them? Shtirlitsy may also apologize for the anxiety? I don’t understand and will never understand such humanism.

[brdm]

"Secret topographic maps of the General Staff." Well yes. It sounds loud. Only they do not exist in nature at one time, in one place!). Only when needed. And then they took it. That is for Collectors))) Framed.

[APASUS]

Who needs to drag something across the border with modern means of communication?

[myrzilka]

they used to shoot for an article about treason, now no. This is the result of this criminal gentleness. Once a pretzel was attracted by this article - I did not understand. Now what will they do? Will they plant? Or read the notation and let it go? I am amazed at our lack of care, the security of the state is under threat, and the punishment is lower-low.