So why CFL relocate to Dagestan? Admiral's comment

Ex-Commander of the Black Sea fleet Vladimir Komoyedov explained the decision of Sergei Shoigu to relocate the Caspian flotilla from Astrakhan to Dagestan Kaspiysk, reports RIA News.

According to the admiral, this arrangement is more successful.

This thought, it seems to me, was born a long time ago, and now everything is being carried out. And from a strategic point of view there, of course, we have all the friendly countries, this is, first of all. And secondly, the command post and control point are simply translated,

He explained radio station "Star".

Being in the head or on the edge is one thing, but to be in the middle in the base is another. It seems to me that for deployment, for the release of ships, and for the use of forces, including in other territories, this is probably more convenient.

added Komoyedov.

Earlier, the Minister of Defense announced the transfer of the Caspian Flotilla from Astrakhan to Kaspiysk.

There we have a huge construction site: piers, moorings, service points, housing. The number of our officers and military personnel will multiply,

said Sergei Shoigu at the departmental meeting.

In turn, the agency source said that the transfer of the flotilla should begin in the 2019 year, but “shifts to the right” are possible.

Upon the construction of infrastructure - some parts will be transferred (in 2019 year), the ships will finally stand there after the infrastructure is fully built. It all depends on funding, in terms of timing, shifts to the right are possible,

said the source.

Comments

[Hunter 2]

Geographically - the decision is right!
The only question is its timeliness and necessity. Creating infrastructure - costs a lot! And in my opinion, there are more priority areas for investing funds intended for the Navy!

[volodimer]

So, it seems, so far only a solution, and the translation itself will be later
"some separate parts will be transferred (in 2019), the ships will finally get up there after the infrastructure is completely built."
And clearly the desired process is not limited to specific dates.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: Hunter 2

The only question is its timeliness and necessity.

It is vital I’ve looked at the sea map in the region there, it’s full J. there already (at the time of the map update) the whole north is only 1-3m deep when the main ships are draft up to 2,5m
And if you take into account that the sea is becoming shallow, it will become clear that the map is wrong and in fact there is even less. And on the map it immediately becomes clear that deepen, do not deepen everything is useless, everything until the first storm.
On the other hand, in the same Makhachkala quite normal depths, even with a view to future shallowing.

[intuzazist]

This is also a social project! Dagestan is in a difficult situation. The region vibrates a lot. And the fleet will provide jobs, infrastructure development and naval counterintelligence will keep an eye on the order ...

[Maz]

We look at the card carefully and immediately expediency begins to manifest itself in all its glory. And if we look at the border and the economic zone of the Caspian, then in general the expediency disappears. As a border guard - only for

[Normal ok]

Quote: Hunter 2

Creating infrastructure - costs a lot! And in my opinion, there are more priority areas for investing funds intended for the Navy!

Construction is a sacred animal. Budgets are sawed and sawn, terms are moved and moved, etc.

[Egorovich]

The Middle East, the Black Sea, the Mediterranean Sea, and part of Europe will become much closer to the "Caliber" of the Caspian flotilla. A very wise decision.

[bazzbazz]

Winning at a distance of 400km maximum. This is certainly a plus, missiles fly less targets and more radius, but is this huge construction worth it? I hope this is not another cut.

[Orkraider]

In Astrakhan, the fleet can be locked, the exit is not very convenient in the water area, it is long and less maneuver. Nobody canceled remote mining again. And the exit from Kaspiysk is year-round and immediately into the open sea. And so there will be two basing points in fact at once, because in Astrakhan no one will let the piers and infrastructure be scrapped, in any case, it seems to me. IMHO, of course.

[Igor V]

Again: Baltiysk in the Baltic, Kaspiysk in the Caspian, it is easier for generals to remember.

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Igor V

Again: Baltiysk in the Baltic, Kaspiysk in the Caspian, it is easier for generals to remember.

Colleague - Yes, you are a genius! add Severomorsk in the North!
Just how to be now ??? Chernomorsk (for Black) - at the Skakuas, have to squeeze ??? For the convenience of the General Staff ???

[tihonmarine]

You can squeeze, you can buy.

[tchoni]

Maybe to build a couple of ships for the Black Sea on these grandmas?

[rotmistr60]

From your computer, you probably know better. I am sorry that you did not consult.

[maxim1987]

Quote: Egorovich

The Middle East, the Black Sea, the Mediterranean Sea, and part of Europe will become much closer to the "Caliber" of the Caspian flotilla. A very wise decision.

so say, as if the ships can only shoot from the pier

[Kot_Kuzya]

It has long been necessary. In Astrakhan, the sea freezes, while in Kaspiysk, navigation is year-round.

[KVU-NSVD]

Control over the waters from Kaspiysk is certainly easier than from Astrakhan ... And the attention of the current leadership to the needs of the flotilla is pleasing. It is now not a contingent place of "link", but a very important link in the country's defense ..

[Altona]

This is certainly good, but it would be more correct in Baku. It’s a joke, of course, but it was in Baku in 1988, November 7, from the embankment that I saw a column of ships of the Caspian flotilla built into a wake.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: tchoni

Maybe to build a couple of ships for the Black Sea on these grandmas?

And if you urgently need to put all the ships in a raid, the threat of war, for example ... From Astrakhan they horseradish along the Volga for almost 100 km at low speed to the sea ... An ideal target

[tchoni]

The region is quite calm. this time. Ships are not the region’s most serious force — they are two (aviation will be more steered over a limited water area) Gauges can be launched from the wall - these are three. Astrakhan is a much calmer region in terms of interethnic conflicts - these are four. There is no fire, there is no urgent need to relocate the base. - it's five.
The only obvious reason for this preturbation is to throw jobs to Dagestan in poverty.

[ProkletyiPirat]

I disagree, the main reason is the shallowing of the sea, which is precisely a huge hole in the local budgets for dredging processes.

[Radical]

Quote: Hunter 2

Geographically - the decision is right!
The only question is its timeliness and necessity. Creating infrastructure - costs a lot! And in my opinion, there are more priority areas for investing funds intended for the Navy!

Dagestan, from the point of view of terrorist activity, is a problem region, and these "strange" metamorphoses with relocation are very incomprehensible. One attack in Kaspiysk was worth it! And the comment of the admiral, in any case, what is indicated in the note is very unconvincing!

[Sauron80]

But doesn’t it seem to you that after the “cleansing” has begun, it will become calmer in Dagestan, and given the transfer of the Caspian flotilla there it will become even calmer. Isn't Crimea with the Black Sea Fleet base an indicator?

[Wilderness]

Someone flotilla very much interferes, so it pulls. What will be its combat effectiveness at the time of the relocation of all supplies, equipment, fuel? And the housing of the personnel and their families? And their (pah pah pah) safety? He’s an admiral, he’s ex, according to his leadership, I heard there are a lot of unpleasant questions. And this phrase "... And from a strategic point of view, of course, we have all the friendly countries there, this is, firstly. And secondly, the command post and command post are simply being translated ..." is that? Do we have already unfriendly countries in Astrakhan? In general, you need to look for someone profitable.

[Maz]

Right now, the admiral will reveal the true reasons on the Internet to you. See the map and everything will be settled.

[KERMET]

Quote: Radikal

Quote: Hunter 2

Geographically - the decision is right!
The only question is its timeliness and necessity. Creating infrastructure - costs a lot! And in my opinion, there are more priority areas for investing funds intended for the Navy!

Dagestan, from the point of view of terrorist activity, is a problem region, and these "strange" metamorphoses with relocation are very incomprehensible. One attack in Kaspiysk was worth it! And the comment of the admiral, in any case, what is indicated in the note is very unconvincing!

Just in such a problematic region, at the expense of the naval base there will be a strengthening of our security forces and this is the right decision

[Radical]

Quote: KERMET

Quote: Radikal

Quote: Hunter 2

Geographically - the decision is right!
The only question is its timeliness and necessity. Creating infrastructure - costs a lot! And in my opinion, there are more priority areas for investing funds intended for the Navy!

Dagestan, from the point of view of terrorist activity, is a problem region, and these "strange" metamorphoses with relocation are very incomprehensible. One attack in Kaspiysk was worth it! And the comment of the admiral, in any case, what is indicated in the note is very unconvincing!

Just in such a problematic region, at the expense of the naval base there will be a strengthening of our security forces and this is the right decision

I have my own opinion on this ...

[Ingvar0401]

The Baltic Fleet would have raised such a question. The main base in Baltiysk, and the headquarters in Kaliningrad .... You are tormented by the ride ...

[Ingvar0401]

I wonder why Komoyedov, being the commander of the BVMB, did not raise such a question?

[Alex_59]

Personally, it seems to me that KFL is paying too much attention to us. Such as in Soviet times was not even. And this is strange, amid the decline in the remaining fleets. And here, not only new ships go first to KFL, but also what - large-scale construction, a new base, etc.
With whom is there to fight in the Caspian? Enough artillery boats, a pair of missile and a pair of minesweepers. The rest in such a compact sea is carried by aviation.

[sib.ataman]

As far as I remember, MP stood there already. Now the headquarters and part of the boxes will be transferred. It is unlikely that Astrakhan will cease to be one of the basing points. The wider the infrastructure, the more stable the army, sorry, commonplace

[Eroolguy]

IMHO not for the sake of the fleet, but for the sake of Dagestan.

[Old26]

Quote: Eroolguy

IMHO not for the sake of the fleet, but for the sake of Dagestan.

Just for the sake of the fleet, not Dagestan. Basing in Astrakhan is problematic due to the distance from the Caspian. And here is a direct exit

[voyaka uh]

The Caspian Sea is rapidly becoming shallow. Moreover, the small one is the northern part. Soon there no warships could pass. Only one port in Dagestan remains suitable.
(why at the same time arrest Dagestan billionaires - another question )

[CFL]

The freezing of the northern part of the Caspian and the shallowing of the sea are rather weak arguments. The first one is decided by icebreakers (the pilotage of ships takes place all year round), the second one is decided by deepening the Volga-Caspian canal. In Astrakhan, the entire infrastructure for the flotilla, plus jobs and taxes in the city, was created.
In Kaspiysk, everything is not so clear. There is experience in deploying the 77th Marine Corps, a base was built for the brigade (barracks, residential buildings for officers, a communications center, etc.), as a result, the brigade was disbanded and the base was practically worthless. Do not forget about the families of the military (schools, kindergartens,), not many parents want to teach their children in Dagestan schools. Not just people are needed for civilian posts. and specialists (where to get them in Kaspiysk?) and so on ...