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The summit on bringing peacekeepers to the Donbass will be held without Russia. RF Ministry of Foreign Affairs Reaction

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The newspaper Kommersant, citing "an informed source in Kiev," reports that the summit on the possible entry of an international peacekeeping mission to the Donbass "is likely to be held without Russia's participation." We are talking about the summit, which is scheduled for May in the German Aachen.


"Informed source" said that the Norman four is going to become a troika. The summit will bring together representatives from Germany, France and Ukraine. It was noted that the agreement on the preparation for the meeting in Aachen should take place during the planned visit of the President of Ukraine to Berlin. According to the latest data, 10 of April flies to Merkel Poroshenko. On the eve of Poroshenko visited the location of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Volnovakha.

The summit on bringing peacekeepers to the Donbass will be held without Russia. RF Ministry of Foreign Affairs Reaction


Attention is drawn to the reaction of the Russian Foreign Ministry to the fact that in Kiev they announced participation in the summit of the “Norman Four” without Russia. The main foreign policy department of the Russian Federation noted that they have nothing against holding a meeting in such a format in German Aachen for the simple reason that questions about the introduction of peacekeeping contingents are decided in a completely different place and not within the framework of a narrow inter-party struggle.

The shortened summit of the "Norman Four", as reported Kommersantwill probably take place on the days of the award of the Charlemagne Prize, the founder of the Frankish state. AT organization committee award stated that in 2018, the prize will be received by French President Emmanuel Macron (attention!) for his contribution to the unification of Europe. Charlemagne himself, on finding out who is being given the prize of his name today, would at least be very surprised ...
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr April 2 2018 18: 51
    +21
    And whom will they bring there? It turns out that the summit will be like that, for show. Blah blah blah. And no more. Porosenko will paint for a photo with Merkel and Macron.
    1. Kars
      Kars April 2 2018 18: 55
      +23
      In theory, there should be a UN decision on peacekeepers.
      Only while it is not clear why the Russian Federation agrees to the entire territory of the Ordon and not to the entire territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, with the withdrawal of the Armed Forces and the National Guard from the administrative boundary of the regions.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana April 2 2018 19: 05
        +11
        the Norman four is about to become a trio. The summit will bring together representatives of Germany, France and Ukraine.

        Well, it is clear that in Washington they promised Germany the ownership of coal mining in the Donbass. Washington itself needs the shale gas of Ukraine. But what does France want in Ukraine? What did France promise in Washington and London? To get (for the UK) sea ports in Ukraine for own use?
        And Macron’s organizing committee bought the consent in France with the 2018 award “for contribution to the unification of Europe”? It seems so!
        1. Alekseev
          Alekseev April 2 2018 19: 21
          +16
          Quote: Tatiana
          Well, it is clear that in Washington they promised Germany the ownership of coal mining in the Donbass. Washington itself needs shale gas in Ukraine. But what does France want in Ukraine?

          They do not really need coal, gases, and the last ports of an independent one.
          They need supplies for the so-called containment of Russia. They need a hostile state on our borders.
          Especially the USA, the geyropa is a little afraid: after all, for the Americans it is also like a consumable ...
          1. cniza
            cniza April 2 2018 19: 33
            +3
            The main foreign policy department of the Russian Federation noted that they have nothing against holding a meeting in this format in German Aachen for the simple reason that the questions of introducing peacekeeping contingents are being decided in a completely different place and by no means within the framework of a narrow inter-conflict.


            Let cheeks puff out and puff out of their own importance.
            1. Hire
              Hire April 2 2018 20: 29
              +12
              The Kommersant newspaper, citing an "informed source in Kiev," reports that the summit on the possible launch of an international peacekeeping mission in the Donbass "is likely to be held without the participation of Russia."

              It was already. 1941 - on the right, they meet the peacekeepers they liked.
            2. Lelek
              Lelek April 3 2018 01: 06
              +1
              Quote: cniza
              Let cheeks puff out and puff out of their own importance.

              hi
              Well, in general, according to such a pattern, our Foreign Ministry replied - "we don’t know anything about this event, we didn’t order oysters and Armagnac."
          2. tol100v
            tol100v April 2 2018 19: 56
            +8
            Quote: Alekseev
            They do not really need coal, gases, and the last ports of an independent one.

            They initially needed the Crimea! And all the Maidan because of the Crimea! Yes, here with the Crimea they got a huge bummer! Now all that remains is to cultivate Bandera.
        2. 210ox
          210ox April 2 2018 19: 25
          +7
          "Kommersant" is still the source ... Well, even if it does, try to enter ... At least try ..
          Quote: Tatiana
          the Norman four is about to become a trio. The summit will bring together representatives of Germany, France and Ukraine.

          Well, it is clear that in Washington they promised Germany the ownership of coal mining in the Donbass. Washington itself needs the shale gas of Ukraine. But what does France want in Ukraine? What did France promise in Washington and London? To get (for the UK) sea ports in Ukraine for own use?
          And Macron’s organizing committee bought the consent in France with the 2018 award “for contribution to the unification of Europe”? It seems so!
        3. Tersky
          Tersky April 2 2018 19: 55
          +4
          Quote: Tatiana
          . But what does France want in Ukraine?

          In Ukraine, more than a hundred French companies are registered, and most of them invest in agriculture. Tatyana, do you know what I mean? All of them are engaged in promoting their own products in Ukraine. Compter supplies boilers, Schneider Electric and Saint-Gobain promote building materials, pharmaceutical laboratories Servier, Sanofi and Biocodex sell French medicines, and Auchan Corporation expands its distribution network. At one time, Alexander Struve (Director of Business France) let slip, stating in plain text that the goal of Business France is to promote French business in Ukraine, and not at all the other way around, and not even in mutual directions. This largely explains France’s interest in Ukraine.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana April 3 2018 04: 15
            +1
            Quote: Tersky
            Quote: Tatiana
            . But what does France want in Ukraine?

            In Ukraine, more than a hundred French companies are registered, and most of them invest in agriculture. .... All of them are engaged in promoting their own products in Ukraine. .... At one time, Alexander Struve (Director of Business France) let slip, saying in plain text that the goal of Business France is to promote French business in Ukraine, and not vice versa, and not even in reciprocal directions. This largely explains France’s interest in Ukraine.

            And yet, such an answer doesn’t quite suit me, because all the national globalist companies of the EU countries pursue similar goals both in Ukraine and in the entire post-Soviet space.
            The union of France and Germany, Germany and France surprises me. After all, historically they have long been opposing countries. Mining Alsace-Lorraine alone over the past centuries has passed from hand to hand!

            Twentieth Century 1940 Hitler in Paris


            Now Germany’s involvement of France in this alliance may be connected with the fact that France in Europe is precisely a nuclear power, while Germany does not yet have its own nuclear weapons. But Germany is holding back this pressure on itself from France with the help of Washington with its Pentagon, which leads NATO.
            And as a nuclear "umbrella" for Germany, France must have something more than it had previously required from its current ally, Germany. Is not it? I suppose that's the case.
            Then the question arises. What is more than what you have indicated, France may want, when dividing Ukraine in its spheres of influence, from its allies - for example, from Germany itself?
          2. yehat
            yehat April 3 2018 15: 55
            0
            I will add that industrial products in Ukraine are Germany, Poland, Turkey and China.
            There are none. Trading networks are also largely foreign. Agriculture - about 40% of the cultivated areas are already owned by foreigners and continue to be actively sold (this is about the realities of the government’s plans to turn the country into a breadbasket - in fact, the reverse process is going on)
            Along the way, EVERY Ukrainian already owes about $ 1500 to external borrowers on average
            and 40% of annual domestic revenue.
            because the current debt of the state is now $ 48.5 billion, the population is 42.2 million
            I must say that this debt was not formed by the current authorities - they only doubled its growth rate in the last 4 years. And the debt has been steadily and vigorously growing for 20 years, and it must be taken into account that the Russian Federation + trade provided comparable discounts on the sale of resources.
            And there are private and corporate debts. Here the estimates are very inaccurate.
            All together, this already draws to the fact that each Ukrainian on average owes a minimum of 4.5 thousand dollars to everyone who has borrowed himself or the state.
            At the same time, the average annual income of a Ukrainian is 24 thousand hryvnias = 0.38 * 24000 = 9100.
            Those. ALL Ukrainians already owe creditors half a year of their work and this debt is growing now with growing rates, now close to 5-7% per year.
            If you shift everything to the share of the working population that really works, then all of Ukraine now needs to work hard for 3-4 years in a row and specifically, just to get rid of debts and interest payments.
            but if the fate of the stratification of the population by income and the share of unemployment, then
            in reality, the population is twice as poor. That is the reality.

            In fact, Ukraine has already fallen into a debt hole, from which one simply cannot get out.
            And if everything goes as it is, Ukraine will soon turn into English India.
            Interestingly, the Ukrainians in school studied how fun the Indians were running the British? It's time to introduce such a special subject in schools in order to prepare children morally for the position of slaves, mass hunger and poverty. It will come soon and will not be up to the great ukrov that the seas are digging. It's time to change the school curriculum ...
        4. a.boroda61
          a.boroda61 April 3 2018 08: 36
          0
          . But what does France want in Ukraine? ..... the Bistro network sags ... again the Cossacks want to Paris ... well, like ... a dumpling rod ... and Kvass ... okroshka ...
      2. For example
        For example April 2 2018 19: 06
        +1
        Football Championship is on the way. So, the three Nemo-Franco-Ukrainians should ensure the release of shit. wink
        Franco-Germans will not fight. Only shit is left for them. They will crap.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo April 2 2018 19: 42
          +3
          Quote: For example
          The main foreign policy department of the Russian Federation noted that they have nothing against holding a meeting in this format in German Aachen for the simple reason that the questions of introducing peacekeeping contingents are being decided in a completely different place and by no means within the framework of a narrow inter-conflict.

          The main foreign policy department of the Russian Federation noted that they have nothing against holding a meeting in this format in German Aachen for the simple reason that the questions of introducing peacekeeping contingents are being decided in a completely different place and by no means within the framework of a narrow inter-conflict.

          It is time to seriously prepare for the recognition of LDNR and the signing of relevant treaties. To otvetka flew Banderlog and the collective West faster than a bullet.
        2. Bumblebee_3
          Bumblebee_3 April 2 2018 20: 55
          +3
          For example Today,
          Football Championship is on the way. So, the three Nemo-Franco-Ukrainians should ensure the release of shit.
          Suppose the World Cup does not take place. What RF will collapse from this? All these "arenas" were built only for the World Cup? And about the "peacekeepers", I think that if such a decision passes, then Russia needs to recognize the independence of the LDNR, with all that it implies ....
      3. Tersky
        Tersky April 2 2018 19: 06
        +8
        Quote: Kars
        In theory, there should be a UN decision on peacekeepers.

        In theory, the 12 expulsion of Russian UN staff from the headquarters of the latter should also have its solution, but as we have seen it (the decision) is not necessary, the command of the country of the UN location is enough. This organization has outlived itself as in its time the League of Nations. hi !
        1. cariperpaint
          cariperpaint April 2 2018 20: 11
          +1
          why all of a sudden? the country decided to expel. anyone and where it doesn’t matter there. The UN cannot dictate whether anyone in the United States wants to. in their place will come others and all. in fact, they just work for the UN no more.
          1. Tersky
            Tersky April 2 2018 20: 23
            +4
            Quote: cariperpaint
            why all of a sudden?

            belay How everything is launched ... It is enough that the UN is not under American jurisdiction. The fact that the UN headquarters is located in the United States was determined by countries at one of the sessions of the UN General Assembly and this does not give Washington any special status. Permanent Representatives of Russia to the UN are accredited to the UN and fulfill their functional duties exclusively within the organization. Moreover, the receiving state has a special duty to respect the privileges and immunities of the staff of the permanent missions of member countries, as well as employees of the UN Secretariat, who are citizens of other states. Available?
            1. cariperpaint
              cariperpaint April 2 2018 20: 33
              0
              UN employees enjoy diplomatic privileges and can be expelled from the country if they violate the rules of staying in it. The words of the first deputy head of the Federation Council Committee on Foreign Affairs, Vladimir Dzhabarov .. does it make sense to argue with him?
              1. Tersky
                Tersky April 2 2018 20: 38
                +3
                Quote: cariperpaint
                Words by Vladimir Dzhabarov, First Deputy Head of the Federation Council Committee on Foreign Affairs

                Follow this link https://www.bfm.ru/news/380747 read his words. yes
                Quote: cariperpaint
                does it make sense to argue with him?

                I don’t argue with anyone, but give facts.
                1. cariperpaint
                  cariperpaint April 2 2018 20: 43
                  0
                  I read everything. in short, the whole point is that they can send but others must come to replace. if it is banned then another is already a conversation. I said about the fact that they can send from the UN.
                  1. Tersky
                    Tersky April 2 2018 20: 51
                    +3
                    Quote: cariperpaint
                    I said about the fact that they can send from the UN.

                    Already closer to the truth, may yes but only by decision of the UN Secretariat smile
                    1. cariperpaint
                      cariperpaint April 2 2018 21: 20
                      +2
                      you do not hear me in my opinion. I’m talking about the fact that the United States as a state can expel anyone at any time. The main documents regulating the status of staff of permanent missions of states in the United States are the UN Convention on Privileges and Immunities of 1946, as well as the agreement between the UN and the United States on headquarters UN 1947, so that the expulsion of Russian diplomats, as well as other recent unfriendly steps - depriving of access to Russian diplomatic property, non-issuance of visas for mission employees and others - can be regarded as abuse of the United States by its rights and obligations of the host state "it simply exceeds its he doesn’t violate any laws or conventions. The UN didn’t decide anything at all and couldn’t solve it. As a structure or organ, it has outlived itself or not, it doesn’t influence it at all.
                      1. Tersky
                        Tersky April 3 2018 08: 30
                        +2
                        Quote: cariperpaint
                        ours were sent from there before in the days of the USSR.

                        For example?
                        Quote: cariperpaint
                        but does not violate any laws or conventions

                        laughing An interesting point is that this is a direct violation of the provisions of Article 105 of the UN Charter and sections 11, 13 and 15 of the Agreement between the UN and the US Government regarding the location of United Nations headquarters. request
            2. Orionvit
              Orionvit April 2 2018 21: 58
              +2
              Quote: Tersky
              It’s enough that the UN is not under US jurisdiction

              Judging by what happens at the UN after the collapse of the Union, this organization is precisely under American jurisdiction. Yes, and geographically the same.
      4. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis April 2 2018 20: 40
        +2
        No one will enter anyone. Petenka goes to Frau Merkel to ask for the cancellation of Nord Stream -2. And for one thing the gentlemen called the Europeans on the carpet. they give them a pill. Type - "Petya, where are the pennies ...!" ... "But there aren’t pennies! Give me more!" Get it am wassat ... something like that!
      5. helmi8
        helmi8 April 2 2018 22: 15
        +1
        Quote: Kars
        In theory, there should be a UN decision on peacekeepers.

        Not just the UN, but the UN Security Council, which includes Russia. So these statements by the "informed source" are just a shock.
      6. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk April 3 2018 00: 35
        +1
        Quote: Kars
        In theory, there should be a UN decision on peacekeepers.
        Only while it is not clear why the Russian Federation agrees to the entire territory of the Ordon and not to the entire territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, with the withdrawal of the Armed Forces and the National Guard from the administrative boundary of the regions.

        Did you dream about it? Not? Then where, who and in what document did it indicate? Peacekeepers without the permission of one conflicting party - the DPR. This is not the introduction of peacekeepers, this is occupation. Let's see where they will run if Russia asks, "WHY WITHOUT ME ????" But far from being in time. Iskander will catch up. While running through the territory of Ukraine, it will be just.
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic April 2 2018 18: 56
      +6
      The National Guard under ukroiny, scumbag like "Azov", pravosek, finally just scum and perverts from all over Europe! There is a lot of garbage, it’s not a problem to introduce, but we will need to help the republics to minimize the amount of what they will try to get out of there.
    3. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely April 2 2018 20: 44
      +2
      During World War II, the Wehrmacht and Waffen ss fought many times more French than in the operetta "resistance". The trouble is that in France and Germany there are almost no survivors who would strongly advise their non-progeny descendants NOT to climb.
    4. 17085
      17085 April 2 2018 23: 53
      +2
      Quote: oleg-gr
      And whom will they bring there? It turns out that the summit will be like that, for show. Blah blah blah. And no more. Porosenko will paint for a photo with Merkel and Macron.

      On sale in Ukraine will be put a fat point. Occupation zones, places of deployment of the occupying forces, change of power structures to external control, organization of protection of sensitive facilities (nuclear power plants, etc., etc.). Nobody is going to consult with Russia, however, as well as sharing. Russia raised the "fallen" Crimea, the Germans and the French think that everything else "falls" into their hands.
    5. Traktorbekov Urulu
      Traktorbekov Urulu April 3 2018 03: 50
      0
      If it is painted. And then again, the tongue will scratch in front of a half-empty room ...
    6. Vend
      Vend April 3 2018 08: 50
      0
      This move demonstrates that Russia is not a party to the conflict. So, Ukraine puts a pig on its own.
    7. Elizar Zadunaysky
      Elizar Zadunaysky April 3 2018 08: 59
      0
      the summit or maybe it’s a sabantuychik or a cabal or just a Weltzman wants to get drunk with a marquee and an emanuel, cry that he and the girls do not like money no
  2. taiga2018
    taiga2018 April 2 2018 18: 53
    0
    that is, they don’t want to see any peacekeepers in the Donbass ...
    1. Borik
      Borik April 2 2018 18: 57
      +9
      And who will let these peacekeepers in the Donbass.
  3. sleeve
    sleeve April 2 2018 18: 54
    +2
    Oh, plaque fly, they need to throw textbooks on geography and political science. There Merkel, so you can in Russian ... Translate.
    1. GAF
      GAF April 2 2018 19: 26
      +1
      Quote: sleeve
      Oh, plaque fly, they need to throw textbooks on geography and political science. There Merkel, so you can in Russian ... Translate.

      Literally, it may not translate, but the message’s meaning - “Come uninvited, we’ll hang it!” Will convey. Let them think what is good and what is bad.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit April 2 2018 22: 02
      0
      Quote: sleeve
      they need to throw textbooks on geography and political science

      What for? So far, as far as Ukraine and its ilk are concerned, everything is working out fine in the West. And Russia in this regard, at this stage is in the position of "catching up." Unfortunately.
      1. sleeve
        sleeve April 3 2018 05: 42
        0
        If a person slows down (average) and looks around, he will get a firm conviction that the whole world is running forward, and he is only catching up. In this situation, of course, not everything is great, as in any complex event platform, but not everything is bad either. Although cynical on our part. Everything depends on the size of the “byak”, which we are going to slip. And this byak everything is fading and fading. And even the introduction of peacekeepers in comparison with what they could roll out together (including fomenting a specific war with drawing us there as well) is already akin to quarreling over a fence. "But Poroshenko falsifies the election ... and then." No, it does not falsify, and there will be no nifig. Change of elites? Maybe. Another coup with a loss of legitimacy of the Ukrainian government? The same is possible. But in any situation, this is a change of the regime of "hopelessness" to "constructive". And we will again “raise” the Ukrainian economy, because in the West there are no “funny” and endless rich guys like us. And Salisbury? Well this is generally an attack of failure. Diplomat? And what to do, the rules of confrontation. But count the long-term "dividends" ... So we do not catch up. We rationally distribute forces taking into account the factor of the duration of our historical period.
  4. svp67
    svp67 April 2 2018 18: 55
    +8
    Karl the Great himself, having learned about who is being given a prize in his name today, would at least be very surprised ...
    but apparently not more than Keitel ...: "" How ?! And these too ...? "."
    And we are still laughing at old Brezhnev ...
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit April 2 2018 22: 05
      +1
      Tomorrow Ukraine will decide to "deepen its historical roots" and declare Charlemagne the founder of the "Ukrainian nation." In the hope that this will become "closer" to Europe. laughing
  5. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 2 2018 18: 57
    +7
    "An informed source in Kiev" to believe, not to respect yourself ... wink
  6. samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 2 2018 18: 58
    +1
    It may well legalize the introduction of a mass contingent of NATO "peacekeepers" into Ukraine ... And there they will "close" the sky - this is a real threat.
    1. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
      Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 2 2018 19: 09
      +2
      Quote: samarin1969
      It may well legalize the introduction of a mass contingent of NATO "peacekeepers" into Ukraine ... And there they will "close" the sky - this is a real threat.

      Your fears are not relevant. In fact, the audience understands who orders the music (Russia, DPR, LPR). This girl is dancing (the leadership of Ukraine).
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 April 2 2018 19: 16
        +2
        I will not be a "very informed person" and I will not be so categorical ... But nothing prevents the "Normans" without the Russian Federation from agreeing on the introduction of "peacekeepers" into Ukraine (not in the LDP) ... the Russian Federation will continue to "dance" somewhere " east. "
        1. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
          Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 2 2018 19: 19
          +1
          Quote: samarin1969
          I will not be a "very informed person" and I will not be so categorical ... But nothing prevents the "Normans" without the Russian Federation from agreeing on the introduction of "peacekeepers" into Ukraine (not in the LDP) ... the Russian Federation will continue to "dance" somewhere " east. "

          Do not underestimate the North Wind! It can, contrary to all forecasts, go to HURRICANE.
          1. Sewer krainiy
            Sewer krainiy April 2 2018 22: 43
            +1
            Do not underestimate the North Wind! It can, contrary to all forecasts, go to HURRICANE.

            So Beast from the East this year was. Is this something else? am
        2. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack April 2 2018 19: 58
          +5
          Quote: samarin1969
          nothing prevents the "Normans" without an agreement between the Russian Federation ...

          ... between themselves. Yes, nothing is stopping.
          Quote: samarin1969
          ... about the introduction of “peacekeepers” to Ukraine (not to LNR) ...

          ... in Ukraine, these “creatures” already exist. Why gather somewhere for this is completely incomprehensible.
          Quote: samarin1969
          ... the Russian Federation will continue to "dance" somewhere "east"

          So what?
    2. Kerensky
      Kerensky April 2 2018 19: 15
      +1
      . And there they will "close" the sky - this is a real threat.

      Could have done it already.
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic April 2 2018 18: 58
    0
    The main thing is that there is a bruise - there is an injury, without it the circus is uninteresting! We go only to serious events, it’s not interesting to look at patients with their heads, they become boring over time.
  8. Altona
    Altona April 2 2018 19: 01
    +6
    Judging by the format and agenda of the “summit,” we are talking about the direct intervention of the troops of these countries on the territory of Ukraine. No more and no less. In general, the direct deja vu described by Vysotsky in the song "Soldiers in the Group Center Going through Ukraine" is already beginning.
  9. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn April 2 2018 19: 01
    +1
    They are pumping. They increase the degree of tension. I think these are not the latest events from this series.
  10. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 April 2 2018 19: 02
    +1
    The "Intergalactic Chess Congress" is obtained with the corresponding powers and the same consequences.
  11. Egorovich
    Egorovich April 2 2018 19: 06
    +2
    This smelly goblin trinity will gather, poke around each other in the nose and parted without salty slurping. wassat
  12. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD April 2 2018 19: 06
    +4
    Peacekeepers Summit
    A loud name for consultations .. Without taking into account the views of the republics and the Russian Federation, any “peacekeeping” operation is punitive with all the consequences ... But nobody is willing to die in the Donbass .. Therefore, they will talk and get rid of, and then tyagomotin will start again with calls to the Kremlin about the agreements and persuasion ... Then they will talk again, and so on, until the format of the proposed operation really becomes similar to peacekeeping, and not occupational ..
  13. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA April 2 2018 19: 11
    +2
    The organizing committee of the prize said that in 2018, the prize will be received by French President Emmanuel Macron (attention!) "For his contribution to the unification of Europe."

    - Napoleonic Prize?
    - Yes. This is a NATO award. It is given once every five years. Gold medal, magnificent ceremony in Brussels and one hundred thousand pounds. This year our prime minister is the main contender. As a statesman who has made the greatest contribution to the unification of Europe.
    - After Napoleon. Except for Hitler.
    © "Yes, Mr. Minister."
  14. AID.S
    AID.S April 2 2018 19: 12
    0
    The organizing committee of the prize said that in 2018 the prize will be received by French President Emmanuel Macron (attention!) "For his contribution to the unification of Europe"

    Why not Hitler?
  15. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General April 2 2018 19: 13
    +8
    We, LDNR and Russia will gather without representatives of Germany, France and Ukraine and together we will put a big and thick bolt to solve them.
  16. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala April 2 2018 19: 15
    +3
    In principle, it’s possible and in general someone will meet with himself. One-way meeting?
    In general, I think if the UN members stand there (real, but again the meeting of these “resolvers” will not affect their appearance), there will be undoubted benefit: they are unlikely to fire at the Donbass with heavy weapons.
  17. Mwg
    Mwg April 2 2018 19: 17
    +2
    It may happen that they decide to enter Donbass without the participation of the Russian Federation, and Donbass will offer armed resistance. Then there will be a number: the Russian Federation will have to choose between peacekeepers and the Donbass. And for some reason, it seems to me that the Russian Federation will choose the Donbass. That's when the “Western partners” will feel what Hitler was like in 1945.
    1. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn April 2 2018 19: 50
      +1
      Then we will be declared an aggressor and expelled from the UN. And the consequences will be the most serious.
      1. Mwg
        Mwg April 2 2018 20: 16
        +2
        And in 1939-1943 all these gentlemen considered us to be aggressors. All, without exception. All of Europe for Hitler did not work for fear, but for conscience. "Friends of all mankind" from the United States patted him on the shoulder with a friendly. Britain merged information about the USSR and periodically arranged secret consultations. And all for the sake of Adolf Aloisych declaring war on the USSR.
        Britain and the United States will never leave Russia alone. Either we, or they.
        For me, we are better. From the principle. By any means.
      2. Bumblebee_3
        Bumblebee_3 April 2 2018 21: 15
        +3
        Vladimir Nikolaevich, does Israel pay attention to this UN? Or does he do what he needs? 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX Georgians fired on Tskhinvali, who was called the aggressor?
        1. vladimirvn
          vladimirvn April 3 2018 08: 12
          0
          The UN is the last major international platform where our positions are still strong and where they still listen to us.
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    2. Sewer krainiy
      Sewer krainiy April 2 2018 22: 54
      +2
      Russia is a guarantor, like Germany and France, of the Minsk agreements. And a member of the UN Security Council. So without the good of Russia, no one will be brought in anywhere, I suppose.
  18. mamont5
    mamont5 April 2 2018 19: 27
    +2
    Well, if THIS is Ukraine, then the summit will definitely take place. After all, after all, all their Wishlist "come true."
  19. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 April 2 2018 19: 53
    +2
    Germany and France slide down to the level of Porosenko.
    And where is Merkel?
    In the company of two losers?
  20. poquello
    poquello April 2 2018 20: 08
    +2
    in how, miners immediately to Berlin to dig? or stop in Kiev?
  21. lance
    lance April 2 2018 20: 10
    +2
    ldnr still prescribe kama pills: blue-yellow, red-blue or blue, if they are uninvited.
  22. d1975
    d1975 April 2 2018 20: 22
    +2
    Quote: Kars
    In theory, there should be a UN decision on peacekeepers.
    Only while it is not clear why the Russian Federation agrees to the entire territory of the Ordon and not to the entire territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, with the withdrawal of the Armed Forces and the National Guard from the administrative boundary of the regions.

    I completely agree with you, but then what will kakly operate with? There is no body, no business!))))))) request
  23. APASUS
    APASUS April 2 2018 20: 38
    +2
    In this format, you can decide anything, for example, put the new mayor of Singapore or transfer nesting woodpeckers to the Sahara desert.
    We look forward to decisively insane decisions!
  24. Sergey985
    Sergey985 April 2 2018 20: 45
    +1
    Well, get together, well, they will drink beer. And then they will say: you Petrunya go home, all this with Vladimir Vladimirovich it is necessary to coordinate.
  25. Baby sitter
    Baby sitter April 2 2018 21: 13
    0
    The newspaper Kommersant, citing an "informed source in Kiev"[B] [/ b]
    From the OBS series ....
  26. Baby sitter
    Baby sitter April 2 2018 21: 15
    +1
    The newspaper Kommersant, citing an "informed source in Kiev"[i] [/ i]
    From the OBS series ....
  27. AID.S
    AID.S April 2 2018 21: 15
    0
    Quote: Kars
    In theory, there should be a UN decision on peacekeepers.
    Only while it is not clear why the Russian Federation agrees to the entire territory of the Ordon and not to the entire territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, with the withdrawal of the Armed Forces and the National Guard from the administrative boundary of the regions.

    But did the RF agree? It was stated that the peacekeepers divided the parties along the confrontation line.
  28. Nikolay Bnv
    Nikolay Bnv April 2 2018 21: 40
    +1
    So the West decided to charm the West with concessions, stopped the militia attack and started negotiations, and then they gave it to you ... You are Mr. Zero ... Apparently the West will set the conditions for peacekeepers in the Donbass itself ...
    1. pol_ovnik
      pol_ovnik April 2 2018 22: 48
      +1
      And the coolness in the spray of saliva for every sneeze? It’s possible to turn into a psychopath, in your opinion - to zero.
      It would be useful and (!) Effective to discuss something, because it’s a sleepy fluid that is not binding on actions. There are more useful and relevant concerns, and the Emperor deals with them.
  29. Victorio
    Victorio April 2 2018 22: 30
    +1
    what questions about the introduction of peacekeeping contingents they are decided in a completely different place and by no means within the framework of a narrow inter-conflict.
    ====
    in our time, you can’t be sure of anything
  30. pol_ovnik
    pol_ovnik April 2 2018 22: 37
    +1
    in 2018, the prize will receive French President Emmanuel Macron (attention!) "for his contribution to the unification of Europe"

    All these "international prizes and awards" have long become political trade, retail and wholesale. In connection with these awards, I constantly recall Perelman, who in principle refused to communicate (and take an award) with the award committee. I respect him more and more.
  31. German Titov
    German Titov April 2 2018 23: 30
    +2
    "So you don’t drink kakawa." When the coffins go, all of Europe will howl. We're home. This is our land. For fun, the "resident of Ukraine" in the environment of the "Armed Forces of Ukraine" call sign "200th". Volnovakha is generally not far from Donetsk. I would sit at home, Pedrilo - there would be "happiness" to you. And so, again, you will be scared of the whole UN again by “smelling cowards”.
  32. kriwo.alek
    kriwo.alek April 2 2018 23: 59
    +1
    Yes, let them weave what they want. Another important thing here is that without the consent of New Russia there will be no peacekeepers on their territory, especially on the border with Russia.
  33. Yuri A
    Yuri A April 3 2018 01: 03
    +2
    Yes, like Napoleon and Hitler more than Europe united under themselves against Russia - they would have been sentenced immediately afterwards!
  34. assa67
    assa67 April 3 2018 01: 14
    +3
    a similar format will be to the peak of Russia (if it takes place, of course) against the backdrop of recent events .... only then there will be nothing left, like to recognize LDNR, or to be included in the Russian Federation after the referendum ... it will not be worse .... now , like the 41st year, even a couple of years and everything will be fine, but the "partners" will not give ... and we have nowhere to retreat
  35. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 3 2018 01: 50
    +3
    The newspaper Kommersant, citing an "informed source in Kiev"

    Is there any truth in the "message" of the Kommersant newspaper, given its "link to" an informed source in Kiev ""? This info is very doubtful. bully
  36. Z_G_R
    Z_G_R April 3 2018 04: 00
    +1
    it’s all the same what they decide there. It is important that Russia decides. Or not decide.
  37. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 April 3 2018 04: 32
    0
    And where is Lavrov !!! ??? - need to express concern.
  38. Alexander Ra
    Alexander Ra April 3 2018 05: 47
    +1
    The case of LDNR and southeast Ukraine is normally resolved by our national consensus to those who consider the population of these territories to be tribesmen. Gangster flying superstructures should not disfigure the basic - the people. The time when certain groups of individuals make decisions (“the whole bastard is prone to unity, but all decent ones are not”) should end. They fed us Bialowieza separatism, privatization - we open our mouths like small children - and now we have protracted indigestion.
  39. Cuba
    Cuba April 3 2018 06: 48
    +2
    well, they’ll meet, they’ll sit and try .... The parashenka will cry, he will ask for money, he will remember the damned Muscovites ..... then they will blow the hohlosmi about another overpower ....
  40. w70
    w70 April 3 2018 06: 56
    0
    Logically, what does Russia have to do with it?
  41. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 April 3 2018 07: 15
    +1
    It is necessary to introduce peacekeepers there, in the form of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, into the flesh to the Lviv region. Then there will be peace and order.
  42. ilik54
    ilik54 April 3 2018 08: 18
    +4
    Oh well...
    “Unsmiling Russians do not start wars.
    They are started by cheerful Europeans.
    Unsmiling Russian wars end.
    As a rule, in European capitals.
    And then the Russians for some time become the most smiling people.
    Not for long.
    Because the war is always there. ”
  43. Andrey Petrov_3
    Andrey Petrov_3 April 3 2018 09: 13
    0
    Everyone saw this show called "elections" and they don’t want to deal with an under-king. Yes, and he does not solve anything dwarf in life and in life.
  44. Meshchersky
    Meshchersky April 3 2018 09: 25
    0
    Quote: Kars
    In theory, there should be a UN decision on peacekeepers.
    Only while it is not clear why the Russian Federation agrees to the entire territory of the Ordon and not to the entire territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, with the withdrawal of the Armed Forces and the National Guard from the administrative boundary of the regions.

    Is this where you got such information that Russia agreed a hundred there?
  45. Berkut24
    Berkut24 April 3 2018 09: 48
    +1
    I think that this “summit” will consist of Pierrot’s non-public flogging by his Western guarantors, because they were not going to play “long”, the money for the “Tse Europe” project had long ended, and the mess became uncontrollable.
  46. Michail Fresko
    Michail Fresko April 3 2018 10: 06
    +1
    This makes no sense...
    What to introduce the military contingent in the DPR requires the consent of the DPR ... or the mediation of Russia ..
    Otherwise, send these fighter warriors immediately with coffins ...
    Morons b ... (s)
  47. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 April 3 2018 11: 13
    +1
    Just do not forget to ask permission from the DPR and LPR, otherwise the guys will crush your "peacekeepers" into the cabbage (which in fact will be Kiev’s accomplices) ....
  48. intuzazist
    intuzazist April 3 2018 15: 10
    +1
    Quote: Kars
    Only while it is not clear why the Russian Federation agrees to the entire territory of the Ordlo and not to the entire territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, with the withdrawal of the Armed Forces and the National Guard from the administrative boundary of the regions

    Where did such news come from ?! Russia has proposed the protection of OSCE staff by the UN contingent throughout Ukraine! Or along the line of demarcation between the warring parties ..................
  49. 1536
    1536 April 3 2018 15: 45
    +2
    We have nothing to answer. It is obvious. In the end, the UN Security Council will assemble without Russia. Everything goes to this. Because instead of not being able to stop any processes, to lead them, or to give a harsh answer to provocations, we are forced to listen and contemplate what happened in the past once, but it has passed, and only one person seems to continue " fly in a dream ", as in the famous song from the movie" Sannikov Land ". With all due respect, one man in the field is not a warrior. And the reality is that it is so. Alas! At least people in Donbass weren’t fooled, they thoroughly closed the border with Ukraine both on the sea and on land, at least somehow protecting the regions of the Russian Federation and Crimea bordering with the occupied country.
  50. Cyberden
    Cyberden April 3 2018 20: 28
    0
    No one there will decide and do nothing without Russia