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The US Army completely switched to a new gun.

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Following the US ground forces and the Marine Corps, the Air Force and the US Navy announced the transition to a new pistol. Military commanders of the US Navy and Air Force announced the purchase of M18 pistols (a modification of the SIG Sauer P320), reports "Warspot" with reference to the portal military.com


The US Army completely switched to a new gun.


According to official reports from the press services of the US Navy and Air Force, the navy will purchase 60 000 new pistols. In service with the sailors, the M18 will replace the Beretta M9 and Sig Sauer M11 pistols. For the Air Force, the M18 version was also chosen, which will replace the Beretta M9 pistol. Total US Air Force plans to purchase 130 000 new pistols.

The new pistol will be supplied to troops in the caliber 9 × 19 Parabellum, with the manufacturer indicating that weapon is modular and can be easily converted to fire .357SIG and .40 S&W cartridges.

The ground forces, the Air Force, the Navy, and the Marine Corps are independent types of US forces, and their commands can make decisions about the use of certain weapon models. Earlier, the Army and the Marine Corps announced purchases of M17 and M18 pistols.
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  1. Hire
    Hire April 2 2018 13: 15
    +8
    Why do they need pistols ... They do not engage in direct clashes. Bomb with 10m and shell with 000km.
    1. Shura Sailors
      Shura Sailors April 2 2018 13: 18
      +14
      And what to shoot yourself with (if suddenly something went wrong)? wassat
      1. Hire
        Hire April 2 2018 13: 21
        +7
        Quote: Shura sailors
        And shoot yourself with what? wassat

        laughing For such a good deed, they could just buy rope and soap. It would be cheaper. Or open wider the windows on the upper floors. smile
        1. Shura Sailors
          Shura Sailors April 2 2018 13: 23
          +2
          wassat long and troublesome laughing
        2. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel April 3 2018 20: 05
          +1
          Yeah, and the portable bar.
      2. Safevi
        Safevi April 2 2018 13: 24
        +8
        Great gun! And the design is very beautiful.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey April 2 2018 13: 29
          +4
          Quote: sefevi
          Great gun! And the design is very beautiful.


          it means as a trophy soon and we will have ..
          1. Huumi
            Huumi April 2 2018 17: 19
            +2
            What optimist are you however ...
          2. Chever
            Chever April 3 2018 01: 12
            0
            Quote: vorobey
            it means as a trophy soon and we will have ..

            Oh really? Probably in a parallel universe?
        2. Andrey K
          Andrey K April 2 2018 14: 12
          +15
          Quote: sefevi
          ... Great gun! And the design is very beautiful ...

          You probably wanted to say beautiful. The green one is laughing
          Everything is fine - but even the geldings new to the stray, have long resisted this miracle of technology. The German-Swiss SIG Sauer P320 pistol itself, let’s say so, is ambiguous repeat
          In the US civilian market, this model has long been on sale. Manufacturers are overwhelmed with claims of "self-arrows" - this is the only pistol that shoots spontaneously with enviable constancy when dropped negative
          I won’t lie - I don’t know if this “sore” is cured at present request

          What is assembled at a plant in New Hampshire, from the base SIG Sauer P320 has only a shape and a barrel with a trigger. Everything else is polymer, plastic. Plus, the geldings screwed their innovation into the classic pistol scheme: they changed the design of the locking pin in such a way that the gun cannot be dismantled without a special tool belay
          Bottom line: the initial contract amounted to over 270 thousand full-size and 7 thousand compact pistols for the army, plus up to 212 thousand pistols for other military branches. At the moment, the order is cut more than twice yes
          1. Conserp
            Conserp April 4 2018 01: 00
            +1
            They haven’t fixed anything yet. There are also other problems with the wagon:
            - from the fall, not only shoots, but also breaks
            - every now and then with the fired cartridge case throws another cartridge
            - constant underreporting, poking and other delays

            http://www.dote.osd.mil/pub/reports/FY2017/pdf/ar
            my / 2017mhs.pdf
      3. taiga2018
        taiga2018 April 2 2018 13: 26
        +5
        Quote: Shura of the sailors
        And shoot yourself than

        shoot yourself? American? gut thin ...
        1. Conserp
          Conserp April 4 2018 01: 02
          0
          21 thousand a year.
          Another 20 thousand in other ways.
    2. MoJloT
      MoJloT April 2 2018 13: 18
      0
      You look at the quantity, they are obviously not for everyone, and besides, it’s too troublesome and costly to teach ordinary pistol shooting with a pistol shooting with a pistol is more difficult than say with a rifle.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 2 2018 13: 23
        +13
        Quote: MoJloT
        besides, teaching ordinary pistol shooting with a pistol is too troublesome and costly

        A very high percentage of military personnel already at the recruit stage already have pistol shooting skills at the level of a Russian officer.
        1. MoJloT
          MoJloT April 2 2018 13: 26
          +1
          LLCooooooochen a controversial statement, here either you want to say that the level of firing from a pistol of a Russian officer = +/- 0, or just fantasizing ... Besides, what's the point?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 2 2018 13: 32
            +11
            Quote: MoJloT
            here either you want to say that the level of firing from a pistol of a Russian officer = +/- 0

            That is exactly what I want to say. If it were not for the periodic firing during inspections, our officers would have completely stopped training in firing from them.

            But a bunch of American recruits have experience, and often a lot, shooting from their father's or their own pistol.
            1. MoJloT
              MoJloT April 2 2018 13: 35
              0
              I agree with you, here the other day we were competing in shooting with a fire spotter from PMR, a very decent level of skills!
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 2 2018 14: 01
                +9
                Firstly, Russian officers do not consider the pistol a military weapon. You can argue for a long time on this topic, discuss whether it is a reality or a traditional delusion, but this is a very stable opinion.
                Secondly, to shoot from a pistol is a huge hemorrhagic event organization. Well, the situation with the machine gun is the opposite. No problem for the officer to get a machine gun with his own weapons and to "fall on the tail" to any unit located at the shooting range. And with a bunch of very knowledgeable instructors, if this is an infantry unit.
                1. Hiller
                  Hiller April 2 2018 19: 27
                  0
                  Well, I don’t know ... no problems - a “crap” with the organization in the battalion (regiment) ... they shot margolin barracks in the basement (including female military personnel and officers' wives), as well as all officers and warrant officers on the director of the PM, APS and the categories previously listed by me, as well as mechanics-drivers and grenade launchers, which are assigned according to the state of PM or APS
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov April 2 2018 21: 40
                    0
                    Quote: hiller
                    including female military and officer wives

                    Not only wives, but also children. And not from Margolin, but PM. He himself shot a schoolboy.
                    However, Afghanistan and Chechnya have all changed the attitude of officers towards pistols.
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 April 2 2018 13: 33
            +9
            Quote: MoJloT
            OOOoooooooochen a controversial statement, either you want to say that the level of firing from a pistol of a Russian officer = +/- 0, or just fantasize ...

            weapons to almost every family, a mass of shooting galleries. learn to shoot almost from school.
            in our country, the same officers take up arms when they take the oath. and during military service, often shoot? many maximum 2 times a year before inspections
          3. Normal ok
            Normal ok April 2 2018 15: 14
            +3
            Quote: MoJloT
            LLCooooooochen a controversial statement, here either you want to say that the level of firing from a pistol of a Russian officer = +/- 0, or just fantasizing ... Besides, what's the point?

            I remember that during the whole time of studying at the school (Soviet time) we fired a pistol 2 times. And about once a year, when he already served in the unit.
          4. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I April 2 2018 15: 53
            +1
            Quote: MoJloT
            level of firing a pistol of a Russian officer = +/- 0,

            Well .... I don’t know .... all the "nuances" ... But in our unit (partly not the "infantry"), the officers fired from AK and PM during the training firing quite well! Even fired from the RPD "dabbled" ...
            After the army, being a reservist of a separate KGB communications unit, I had to go to the taiga for training exercises ... there, the officers came off "in full" —fired from PM.One was .... finally, a sniper! He showed such tricks, and that's it! I didn’t get from the PM there, although I shot well from the AK in the army, despite the fact that my vision was already weak even then ...
            PS The main thing ... that the "extra" cartridges were enough! wink
            1. MoJloT
              MoJloT April 2 2018 16: 11
              +1
              It is not a matter of your eyesight or not so much of your eyesight; pistol shooting requires different equipment and skills, and it differs depending on the gun. It’s not enough just to bring the rear sight to the front sight.
        2. Vladimir Ter-Odiyants
          Vladimir Ter-Odiyants April 2 2018 13: 32
          +5
          Quote: Spade
          Quote: MoJloT
          besides, teaching ordinary pistol shooting with a pistol is too troublesome and costly

          A very high percentage of military personnel already at the recruit stage already have pistol shooting skills at the level of a Russian officer.

          Moreover, the same picture is in the national guard.
    3. Artek
      Artek April 2 2018 13: 20
      +1
      when will our army switch to new pistols?
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 April 2 2018 13: 34
        +2
        Quote: Artek
        when will our army switch to new pistols?

        what for? does our army fight so much?
        1. Artek
          Artek April 2 2018 14: 10
          0
          Quote: LSA57
          Quote: Artek
          when will our army switch to new pistols?

          what for? does our army fight so much?

          so necessary ...
    4. LSA57
      LSA57 April 2 2018 13: 21
      +4
      Quote: Hire
      Why do they need pistols ...

      from stray dogs fight back when drunk from dismissal to the location you crawl
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii April 2 2018 13: 26
        +9
        Yes, dogs will take them for their own, who licks, and who raises a leg, a mark as a keepsake so to speak smile
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 April 2 2018 13: 29
          +2
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          and who will raise the leg

          from these laughing
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  2. Shura Sailors
    Shura Sailors April 2 2018 13: 17
    +1
    It was always surprising that
    The command of the SV, Air Force, Navy and US MP decide for themselves what weapons to equip their forces
    . But what about "in the army everything is uniform and ugly"?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 2 2018 13: 20
      +6
      Quote: Shura of the sailors
      But what about "in the army everything is uniform and ugly"?

      For the convenience of cutting the money of American taxpayers, the sawing office is not one, but four.
      1. Shura Sailors
        Shura Sailors April 2 2018 13: 24
        +1
        hi well, if only so
  3. Lopatov
    Lopatov April 2 2018 13: 17
    +7
    In general, the Americans are quite actively changing their pistols. Apparently, there is a “pistol culture” in the army that forces it to do so.
    Our traditions, on the other hand, are different in principle, and somewhere since the return of officers from Afghanistan to the Union, the pistol began to occupy a niche “of what is received in the outfit and what should be received on alert” more and more.
    1. vkl.47
      vkl.47 April 2 2018 13: 23
      +1
      Yes, not a pistol culture, but a military budget. The money has to be put somewhere. Scare Russian Ivan everything and everything.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 2 2018 13: 28
        +5
        Quote: vkl.47
        Yes, not a pistol culture but a budget has grown

        They have a regular gun with a sergeant.
        In our country, even staff officers, in their overwhelming majority, don’t take a gun for combat.
        1. kirgiz58
          kirgiz58 April 2 2018 16: 00
          +1
          Quote: Spade
          They have a regular gun with a sergeant.
          In our country, even staff officers, in their overwhelming majority, don’t take a gun for combat.

          I sincerely do not understand why an officer (if he is not special), and even less so for a sergeant, needs a gun. For self-defense, the U-box is much better, if only to shoot the alarmist, coward and traitor. But all the same, this can be done from a machine gun, and instead of a pehol, take a couple of additional stores. I even knew a platoon (I couldn’t strengthen it), so their Kalash dangled behind their backs in reserve, and in their hands it started with the PKK and up to the Utes, and you were talking about a gun for combat.
          1. Hiller
            Hiller April 2 2018 19: 36
            0
            I don’t know about you .. our officers are always with PM from the platoon and higher .. the automatic machine by itself ..
  4. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General April 2 2018 14: 35
    +2
    Mdaa, while in Russia it’s still not clear whether the General Staff, or the submarine, or Yarygin. MO wants to jump off the macaroni, but so far has not come out.
  5. tracer
    tracer April 2 2018 14: 56
    +2
    The mistake of the majority of forum participants is that they try to explain events and things that are not reasonable with rational and prudent logic.
    1. ZVO
      ZVO April 2 2018 16: 03
      0
      Quote: tracer
      The mistake of the majority of forum participants is that they try to explain events and things that are not reasonable with rational and prudent logic.


      Explain pliz, what is the unreasonable replacement of pistols in the army after 30 years of "services"?
  6. sgazeev
    sgazeev April 2 2018 15: 44
    0
    A good option for self-shooting. Without noise and dust. laughing
  7. Topotun
    Topotun April 2 2018 16: 18
    +4
    The gun for the army is generally a secondary thing, it’s not special. The main weapon is automatic and higher. Therefore, replacing pistols with more modern ones is not the main thing ....
  8. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio April 2 2018 17: 00
    0
    only one thing bothers me why the exceptional ones don’t order pistols from their companies but buy from third parties
    1. av58
      av58 April 3 2018 20: 32
      0
      Because they buy the best, they can afford it. Anyway, there will be a minimum partial localization of production.
      1. Conserp
        Conserp April 4 2018 00: 52
        +1
        Yeah. Corporations buy the best lobbyists, and through them buy the best officials and the best congressmen. And so the best cuts and profits turn out.

        And the gun is complete rubbish.
  9. Catfish
    Catfish April 3 2018 01: 09
    +1
    Quote: Hire
    Why do they need pistols ... They do not engage in direct clashes. Bomb with 10m and shell with 000km.


    But it should be. By political correctness. The white uncle of the general has a gun, and the poor ordinary cook is not a Negro. Infringement of rights, segregation and racism! But the blue marines in gay clubs without pistols, back, no way. Than to strike the imagination of beautiful d ... uh-uh, well, understandable. So let's go without homophobia. So they buy and saw money, without this, too, nothing. Their pistols have not been sculpted for a long time, their brains have swam with fat, and Europe at least somehow “saves” it.
    Yes, and they do not need them. There, as in "Trick 22", only two morons with guns flew to the entire American air wing. Their pilots during the war in Korea instead of pistols hung on the neck plates in the local dialect: "I, like, a wealthy man, do not kill me and you will be paid a ransom." Even the photo was in the newspaper of one such jerk surrounded by North Korean peasants. I don’t know what they did to him later, maybe exchanged for chewing gum. laughing
  10. Savignon
    Savignon April 3 2018 05: 54
    0
    And will the new pistols help the Americans against the Sarmat + Vanguard complex?
  11. Cynic
    Cynic April 3 2018 06: 59
    0
    More "greyhound puppies" threw the EU ...
    Or is it because of love for one’s neighbor the Yankees so support?
  12. av58
    av58 April 3 2018 20: 31
    0
    Where it went, it came to that. Beretta won the last Snot SAUER tender when the P226 lost only in price. In the end, the best will always break its way. Cool gun, I envy.