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Designer: greedy managers ruin Ukrainian aviation industry

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Former deputy chief designer of the state-owned enterprise Antonov (Ukraine), Anatoly Vovnyanko, published an article in which he spoke about the deplorable condition of the famous aircraft manufacturer, reports RIA News.


Designer: greedy managers ruin Ukrainian aviation industry


Since 2015, “managers” who have nothing to do with aviation, education, experience and knowledge. The only thing they succeed in is PR and stories in the Ukrainian media about their "achievements" and plans for the future. Since the state of the aircraft building industry is catastrophically worsening, instead of drastic transformations, only the annual "leaders" are changed,
writes Vovnyanko.

According to the designer, while the United States, the EU, Russia and China are rapidly developing aircraft and engine building, Ukraine continues to "remain in the XX century."

"In Ukraine, over the past 12 years, only the so-called demonstrators An-178 and An-132D were built, which are modifications of the An-148 and An-26, -32 aircraft created by (general designer Peter) Balabuyev and (general designer Oleg ) Antonov 15-50 years ago. According to the characteristics, they are inferior to modern foreign analogues, respectively, KS-390, C-130J and C-295W, C-27J, which are mass-produced and sold throughout the world, including the CIS countries. And since the traditional markets, especially Russia, have been lost for the aircraft of the Antonov State Enterprise, it is not possible to find new markets, ”he says.

Vovnyanko recalls that the development of new aircraft was discontinued at 2005, and the production of pieces from 2015 of the year.

The wealth of Ukraine - the aviation industry for several decades was created by many generations of Soviet and Ukrainian citizens who invested their talents, knowledge, work, and health in it. Only 12 years it took two generations of unprofessional and greedy "managers" to ruin all this,
concludes the author.

Recall Petro Poroshenko in 2014, forbade any military-technical cooperation with Russia. As a result, the state enterprise Antonov spent the last years in a deep crisis. So, in 2016, the company did not release a single new aircraft.
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  1. Dormidont
    Dormidont April 2 2018 08: 32
    +8
    Svidomity ruin any industry, because the only civilizational value for them is the pigsty
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr April 2 2018 08: 42
      +2
      They are not greedy, but "effective." Qualitatively perform the installation of the "Washington Oblast" to destroy the industry of the Outskirts. Maidan jumpers should be happy.
    2. Berber
      Berber April 2 2018 08: 43
      +12
      I can say the same about Russia. If it were not for the adequate supreme power, we would have had the same thing. It’s just that they, to power (trough), broke through such as Poroshenko. And they did not break through now, but immediately after the collapse of the USSR.
      1. For example
        For example April 2 2018 10: 33
        +8
        Quote: BerBer
        and immediately after the collapse of the USSR.

        You are mistaken. During the USSR.
        It was these allied, communist Ukrainian authorities that turned the inhabitants of the republic against the Russians. Enough to feed Russia, and such crap was supported by the Communists sitting in the offices of the supreme power in Kiev.
        As well as in other republics of the USSR.
        All these are Russian lands. Earth of the Russian Empire.
        1. Berber
          Berber April 2 2018 11: 33
          0
          I agree + -. Let's just say a small-town desks. the elite of the Ukrainian SSR (at the initial stage) went into big politics. Well, then you yourself know, “Ukraine is not Russia,” etc. etc. But the fact remains how the local "grabbers" remained.
      2. Sma11
        Sma11 April 2 2018 10: 57
        +7
        Quote: BerBer
        I can say the same about Russia. If it were not for the adequate supreme power, we would have had the same thing. It’s just that they, to power (trough), broke through such as Poroshenko. And they did not break through now, but immediately after the collapse of the USSR.
        Where did you see adequate supreme authority? It's just that we have a margin of safety a bit higher for KB. And so it goes the same way. "Defective managers" in the management of cut and rollback. All developments are still Soviet. Just Soviet designers made their models with a hefty margin for modernization.
        1. Per se.
          Per se. April 2 2018 11: 22
          +6
          Quote: Sma11
          Simply, the Soviet designers made their models with a fucking margin for modernization.
          To all, Russia itself will have more outskirts, which also increases the "margin of safety". Otherwise, banks and “effective managers” rule “here and there”, the oligarchs make fortunes, the same Petro Poroshenko did great money in Russia, just like his fat cats from Russia do business in Ukraine. What is called, the lords are “fighting”, and at the lackeys the forelocks are cracking ... Ukraine, this is Russia in miniature, where the problems are hypertrophied because of this, are more visible, therefore, the words of the Mayor from the “Inspector General” - “Why are you laughing? Above laughing! ”, it is quite possible to refer us to all those who now laugh at Hochlandia.
        2. Berber
          Berber April 2 2018 12: 36
          +3
          You are not right. Starting conditions after the "Belovezhsky section" in Ukraine were better than in all other republics. And there was also a reserve of scientific and design basis. And what in the end ... No need to dissemble. Dislike for any power we have long been. I must admit that if Putin hadn’t come to power, I don’t know ...
    3. volodya
      volodya April 2 2018 08: 43
      +5
      They were ruined by a freebie desire! They were shown carrots and greed prevailed. And who in the West generally needs their industry? To nobody! Now let them sell straw! I don’t even have my own fat!
    4. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 April 2 2018 08: 45
      +3
      Ukrainians should act with Poroshenko as Italians at one time with Mussolini, hang with the people on a lamppost, he deserved it. He finally ruined the country and plunged it into chaos along with its hangers-on.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 2 2018 08: 58
        +2
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Ukrainians should act with Poroshenko as Italians at one time with Mussolini, hang with the people on a lamppost, he deserved it

        But Yatsenyuk, Yushchenko, Tyagnibok, Turchinov, Avakov, and many many many, since the collapse of the USSR did not deserve this? There are so many ghouls in power and lower, to the bottom there was, there will be and still will be that hanging them like Christmas balls on poles, a couple of times the globe can be surrounded with such a "garland".
        1. Spartanez300
          Spartanez300 April 2 2018 09: 05
          +4
          You have to start somewhere yes . "deserved" there are a dime a dozen.
      2. Dormidont
        Dormidont April 2 2018 09: 07
        +1
        It smacks of anti-Semitism
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 2 2018 09: 33
          +1
          Yes there just does not smell. and sometimes it just stinks.
      3. Forcecom
        Forcecom April 2 2018 09: 17
        +4
        All the same, let’s not compare the pigs and the Duce, with all the minuses of Mussolini, he was still a creator and did a lot of good for Italy, another thing that he put on the wrong “horse”, but the pre-war policy of England and France is not the last to blame, at some point, he simply had no choice. True, as Churchill said on this subject, “Even Mussolini cannot make anything more from Italians than Italians”.
      4. Per se.
        Per se. April 2 2018 11: 35
        +1
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Ukrainians need to deal with Poroshenko as the Italians at one time with Mussolini
        Rather, it is necessary for the Khokhlov to deal with their oligarchs as Benito Mussolini did in his time with the Italian gangsters - a suitcase, train station, New York, otherwise to the wall. In general, Mussolini’s mistake was to contact Hitler, to get into World War II. Italy under Mussolini became much stronger, he would have been quiet, like Franco in Spain, and everything would be fine both for him and for the Italians. Generally, Italian fascism and German Nazism are far from the same thing, but the name became nominal when German national-socialists began to be called fascists, like all far-right movements. It is unlikely that the pasta that hung Mussolini and his girlfriend, were of great intelligence and honor people.
    5. Ustin Umarov
      Ustin Umarov April 2 2018 11: 01
      0
      do not touch the pigsty: svynny is our everything!
  2. 210ox
    210ox April 2 2018 08: 32
    +4
    What managers.?!. Insolent Bandera ditched EVERYTHING!
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 2 2018 08: 38
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      What managers.?!. Insolent Bandera ditched EVERYTHING!

      And that the first cannot be the second? In general, it must be understood that if in Soviet times industry was developed there squeezing "kurkul", now "kurkul" is trying to take revenge and so far he has succeeded.
      1. 210ox
        210ox April 2 2018 08: 50
        +1
        They can be. But only they aren’t in any way turned by managers. Unless in quotation marks ..
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: 210ox
        What managers.?!. Insolent Bandera ditched EVERYTHING!

        And that the first cannot be the second? In general, it must be understood that if in Soviet times industry was developed there squeezing "kurkul", now "kurkul" is trying to take revenge and so far he has succeeded.
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 2 2018 08: 54
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          But only they already do not turn the language

          What about "effective managers"? Will the language master?
    2. volodimer
      volodimer April 2 2018 08: 43
      +1
      Bandera’s business was completed, and it all started much earlier: “in 2005, the development of new aircraft was stopped ...” So the problem is somewhere in the conservatory ... In 404, the industry began to plunder and destroy industry simultaneously with our “reformers”. Only we have killed "not everything", but these continue.
    3. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General April 2 2018 10: 37
      +2
      Such "managers" do not care about ideology. The main thing for them is money and power. Today they support Bandera, and tomorrow they will approve of the cult of fans of the flying pasta monster.
  3. svp67
    svp67 April 2 2018 08: 36
    +4
    Designer: greedy managers ruin Ukrainian aviation industry
    And who will say that we are not fraternal peoples?
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya April 2 2018 08: 42
      +8
      Quote: svp67
      And who will say that we are not fraternal peoples?

      Stealing from ... repeat
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 2 2018 08: 44
        +5
        Quote: Masya Masya
        Stealing from ...

        But Ukraine has already switched to "Rob-s"
      2. novel66
        novel66 April 2 2018 09: 37
        +2
        Masya. great! love surrenders to me. the problem is that everyone is already stealing there, and those who are obliged to do this by position or command of the heart, but also those who must stop it (by position or command of the heart) yes
        1. Masya masya
          Masya masya April 2 2018 09: 45
          +7
          Roman, hi! love
          wink
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 2 2018 09: 46
            +2
            well, the blush is not from shame drinks
          2. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General April 2 2018 10: 38
            +3
            Hah, bravo, the whole point of Poroshenko! good
  4. Zubr
    Zubr April 2 2018 08: 36
    +2
    Well, you were warned, do not mess with the evil one. No, you had to go to hell with your mouth.
  5. NEXUS
    NEXUS April 2 2018 08: 41
    +6
    It took only 12 years for two generations of unprofessional and greedy “managers” to ditch it all,

    I.D.I.T.T. and outright enemies in power have corrupted and plundered the country for 25 years ... and these local managers, like scavengers, simply ate everything that was left.
  6. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 April 2 2018 08: 43
    0
    And now invite Pedu Parashenka to comment on this news, and he will help you out of this harass.
  7. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov April 2 2018 08: 44
    +1
    Why Ukraine needs 404 aircraft, and industry is not needed. Visa-free and work for another industry is its task.
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya April 2 2018 08: 45
    +4
    The only thing they succeed in is PR and stories in the Ukrainian media about their "achievements"

    So, the main thing is to correctly submit the picture ... wink
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 2 2018 09: 38
      +2
      the main thing is to dump on time, because if they catch ...
  9. Avis-bis
    Avis-bis April 2 2018 08: 48
    +6
    “managers” are appointed to the leadership of SE Antonov, who have nothing to do with aviation, education, experience, and knowledge.

    Like, it’s much better with us ... Ilyushin’s guidebook alone is worth what ...
  10. pavelpavel
    pavelpavel April 2 2018 08: 49
    +3
    Thank Gorbachev with us, he destroyed the personnel reserve by organizing discrimination against the engineering corps. In Russia, the same thing, "the shoemaker bakes pies." In one day, everything will burn, but if you don’t burn, then it will drown.
  11. Vard
    Vard April 2 2018 08: 53
    +4
    In general, the problem of greedy miners is relevant not only in Ukraine ... and not only in aviation ...
  12. morpogr
    morpogr April 2 2018 08: 54
    +1
    So they gathered in Europe, and there already has its own aircraft industry. So kb and the factory are not needed. The situation is the same with rocket science and automotive industry. Everything that is in Europe from production (that is, everything) in Ukraine will be killed or die slowly in torment and agony. For that there was a maidan. sad
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 2 2018 09: 39
      +1
      Maidan rode for it!
  13. Terenin
    Terenin April 2 2018 08: 54
    +5
    Here, the logical chain goes from the ideologist of US foreign policy Brzezinski, who conjured that without Ukraine, Russia would not be an empire. His "covenants" the United States fulfilled through the Maidan, and it is beneficial for them to have a "peasant" Ukraine. But Brzezinski was wrong with Russia.
  14. Simon
    Simon April 2 2018 08: 55
    +2
    Yes, apparently for a long time the Ukrainian aircraft industry fell into the “swamp” for a long time and it seems that it is unlikely to get out of there. request crying
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 2 2018 09: 40
      +4
      But what about us without the An-12?
  15. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa April 2 2018 08: 55
    +1
    It’s a pity for the designers. They are mainly guys who only need work and stability, they are not revolutionaries and essentially apolitical people who just want stability and peace.
  16. Simon
    Simon April 2 2018 09: 06
    +5
    Quote: volodya
    They were ruined by a freebie desire! They were shown carrots and greed prevailed. And who in the West generally needs their industry? To nobody! Now let them sell straw! I don’t even have my own fat!

    They were relatives in the union, and as they separated and wanted to go to Europe, they became stepchildren for Europe right away, because Europe does not need their industry. Europe generally does not need competitors, but only consumers, that is, buyers of their products, are needed.
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  18. ivanov-35
    ivanov-35 April 2 2018 09: 47
    0
    And why the "GREAT AGRICULTURE DERZHAVI" aviation industry ..... Today, political scientists argue 25 or 30 million live today in an area called Ukraine. And for the “GREAT AGRICULTURAL POWER” there are enough 10-15 million “Meshkantsiv”. Ukraine is heading the right course under the leadership of the Washington Regional Committee - Brzezhinsky would be pleased with the results.
  19. shuravi
    shuravi April 2 2018 09: 50
    +2
    Quote: Avis-bis

    Like, it’s much better with us ... Ilyushin’s guidebook alone is worth what ...


    Are you talking about Rogozin puppy? Exactly.
  20. Altona
    Altona April 2 2018 10: 00
    +2
    Quote: Forcecom
    with all the minuses of Mussolini, he was still a creator and did a lot of good for Italy

    --------------------------
    I recall the classic that "when the train was finally moving, it finally began to go exactly on schedule."
  21. Altona
    Altona April 2 2018 10: 05
    +1
    Quote: pavelpavel
    Thank Gorbachev with us, he destroyed the personnel reserve by organizing discrimination against the engineering corps. In Russia, the same thing, "the shoemaker bakes pies." In one day, everything will burn, but if you don’t burn, then it will drown.

    --------------------------------
    The engineering corps began to spread rot from the time of Khrushchev; I still found a type of director who liked to publicly criticize engineers with workers.
  22. Deune
    Deune April 2 2018 10: 30
    0
    "Ukraine continues to" remain in the XNUMXth century. "" And then, on the "bones" of the USSR.
  23. mark021105
    mark021105 April 2 2018 10: 40
    +1
    In the 90s, in the same way, the Russian aircraft industry was also ruined ...
  24. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 April 2 2018 10: 41
    +1
    For several decades, the aviation industry was created by many generations of Soviet and Ukrainian citizens.

    It was created by generations of only Soviet citizens. Ukrainian citizens were able to maintain the Soviet legacy for some time. And under ukronatsizm they buried it in the ground - probably in the framework of desovetization ... de ... b ... b!
  25. Radikal
    Radikal April 2 2018 11: 12
    +2
    Since 2015, “managers” have been appointed to the leadership of SE Antonov, who have no relation to aviation, education, experience, and knowledge. The only thing they succeed in is PR and stories in the Ukrainian media about their "achievements" and plans for the future. Since the state of the aircraft industry is catastrophically worsening, instead of drastic transformations, only the annual “change of leaders” is carried out
    You might think differently in Russia .... sad
  26. shuravi
    shuravi April 2 2018 11: 30
    0
    Quote: Radikal
    You might think differently in Russia .... sad


    You're right. But look at the next aspect. Look at the puppy joy of the local couch patriots here.
    It is somewhat akin to the joy of a person to whom a limb has been cut off, and he, instead of demanding to sew it back, rejoices. That's how bad she is without him. Blood flows out, it will begin to decompose soon, or the dogs will gobble up.
    And how they differ from maydaunov, but nothing.
  27. AKsvlad047
    AKsvlad047 April 2 2018 11: 31
    0
    It is necessary to get all good specialists from Antonov and not skimp on salaries!
  28. Wunderkink
    Wunderkink April 2 2018 12: 07
    0
    You read all this and it becomes sad ... This was HUGE in Ukraine. So many industrial enterprises have built. There are probably more nuclear reactors per capita than in any country in the world. Electricity - at least give it away for free. And now, due to the short-sightedness of the bureaucrats, everything is "adjusted breathes." Only cannets, but "girls with low social responsibility" remained in competition.
  29. andrewkor
    andrewkor April 2 2018 14: 48
    0
    As I understand it, I myself worked at TAPOiCh for half my life!
  30. Sergey985
    Sergey985 April 2 2018 18: 35
    0
    Nothing else could have happened. When in power those who know that tomorrow it is possible to have to do their feet very quickly, until they strangle in the gateway. Steal here and now, tomorrow may not come!
  31. APASUS
    APASUS April 2 2018 21: 08
    0
    Where in the past 20 years has the Western aid program made the country a new industrial giant? Where are Estonian fighters, Romanian reactors, turbines from Hungary, something must have gone wrong ................
  32. prior
    prior April 3 2018 16: 15
    0
    Ukraine is a synonym for the word KABZDETS.
  33. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN April 3 2018 19: 31
    +1
    Greedy managers are not at all involved here .. Take it higher. After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine was the Fifth European economy. And now - an agricultural country with a poor population, ready to perform service functions. So the question is not for greedy managers ....