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Why is India now not happy with Admiral Gorshkov (Vikramaditya)?

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5 will hold a court hearing in India in April, during which a report will be heard from a representative of the country's Ministry of Defense on the acquisition of the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier from Russia. Recall that we are talking about an aircraft carrier (originally - "Kharkov"), put into operation in the USSR in the 1987 year. In 2004, India entered into a contract for the purchase of an aircraft-carrying cruiser from Russia. In 2013, the aircraft carrier after deep modernization was transferred to the Indian Navy. Now it is called Vikramaditya.


The initial amount of the contract with the Russian Federation, according to the publication The Economic Times (India), was 0,974 billion dollars. However, in the 2010-th year in the documents of the Indian Ministry of Defense was listed a different amount - 2,35 billion dollars.

As noted, Indian “activists” became interested in this issue, demanding that the military department declassify documents relating to the final appreciation of the contract. In the Ministry of Defense of India, these requirements have been ignored in recent years, referring to the document, which requires the non-disclosure of details of military technical contracts.

Why is India now not happy with Admiral Gorshkov (Vikramaditya)?


Representatives of the Indian Navy Command:
Bringing the details of the contract to the public, including the technical parameters of repairs, re-equipment of the aircraft carrier, can reveal all the capabilities of the ship, and this damages national security and undermines combat readiness fleet State.


The commission, created on the basis of previously published information about the increase in the value of the contract, intends to seek from the Indian Defense Ministry all the details of an agreement with Russia through the courts. To seek a detailed announcement, in particular, of that information, which concerns all the details of specific payments for the modernization of Admiral Gorshkov. It is also stated that the Ministry of Defense of India is demanded to "explain to the public" why such funds in the Navy decided to spend on an "outdated aircraft carrier" rather than a new project.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox April 2 2018 06: 03
    +18
    Well, doesn’t it? So turn him upside down with a keel in the raid .. You know how. Or at the pier.
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic April 2 2018 06: 06
      +25
      In my opinion, you just need to buy it out, rename it, wash it properly, and use it yourself! And then built for blackmailers fool !
      1. 210ox
        210ox April 2 2018 06: 10
        +2
        Actually, I agree with you ... Only "Admiral Gorshkov" we already have .. hi Well, in principle, we always had enough of the honored military, so there are plenty to choose from.
        Quote: Herkulesich
        In my opinion, you just need to buy it out, rename it, wash it properly, and use it yourself! And then built for blackmailers fool !
      2. Rostovchanin
        Rostovchanin April 2 2018 06: 36
        +15
        For that kind of money - it's a Lexus to buy at the price of Lada Kalina sad
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg April 2 2018 09: 10
          +18
          And what's the point now to pull this crap out of the light ??? They won’t return the money back, but they will undermine the country's defense capabilities without a doubt. These activists simply dishonor their country to the whole world. Apparently another Judah deal ...
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 April 2 2018 11: 34
            +22
            Quote: Geisenberg
            These activists simply dishonor their country to the whole world. Apparently another Judah deal ...

            It can be seen, and they have some kind of Ksishna Sobchakra.
          2. Orionvit
            Orionvit April 2 2018 14: 04
            +12
            Quote: Geisenberg
            These activists simply dishonor their country to the whole world.

            Idus shame themselves on the whole world, without any "activists." Either they’ve got the wrong planes, then tanks, then ships, then they rush to buy weapons all over the world on the principle of "every creature in pairs." Completely forgetting that there is such a thing as the unification of weapons. If you are unhappy with something, let them do it themselves, as the Chinese, and there will be no problems. They will be more true, since they themselves know that their hands did not grow quite from where they needed to.
            1. Elena Zakharova
              Elena Zakharova April 2 2018 18: 43
              +1
              How can they do something themselves?
              This is bad manners))
              And where will the submarines be repaired?
              But other?
              Who else in the world will sell them first-class weapons?
              China?
              1. Grigory_78
                Grigory_78 April 6 2018 10: 50
                0
                Can they turn to Somalia, what matters to us?
                The fleet after that they will become invincible, do not even doubt it.
      3. antivirus
        antivirus April 2 2018 09: 34
        +3
        Indian "activists" became interested in this issue, demanding that the military department declassify the documents,

        COMMERCE WAR IS GOING-- US PUSHES EVERYTHING FROM INDIA. FIRST VERSION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.
        10-20 years will be "loved" by the Indians, then they will "fall in love" with Nigeria.
        Africa in 20 years will grow (teachers) of literate working engineers and they can be cheaply operated
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok April 2 2018 10: 54
          +2
          Quote: antivirus
          Africa in 20 years will grow (teachers) of literate working engineers and they can be cheaply operated

          Judging by current trends, cannibalism will flourish again in 20 years in Africa am
          Seriously, literate people from there already toppled. But China is actively buying up local kings to pump resources through them.
        2. Evgeniy667b
          Evgeniy667b April 2 2018 17: 44
          +3
          They teach our fools, they teach, only everything doesn’t reach the point that to contact Indians, do not respect yourself!
      4. leonid76
        leonid76 April 2 2018 13: 11
        0
        I agree. A very reasonable proposal ...
      5. Kent0001
        Kent0001 April 2 2018 15: 49
        +3
        To wash is the main thing, preferably with bleach. After the Indians, there is no other way. laughing
        1. Elena Zakharova
          Elena Zakharova April 2 2018 18: 32
          +8
          It will also need to be redone ....
          Hindus demanded to build divisions for the crew, according to castes ...
          And would you see which cabins the commanders took away ...

          Plus mounted system, it seems siemens, for landing Amerov letaki))
          Everything was done with us, in Severodvinsk.

          So it’s not so simple, the fastest is the fifth column, such as ours, they only want to disarm India.
      6. Skif83
        Skif83 April 2 2018 18: 38
        +1
        I agree, such a “cow” will not hurt us ourselves laughing
      7. FIFA from Cardiff
        FIFA from Cardiff April 4 2018 18: 04
        0
        Fuck it didn’t swell this ancient bucket with fireboxes from Indian refractory brick, which falls apart in the masonry at the very first storm, the Indians themselves, by the way, demanded to put their fireboxes, as far as I remember, our shipbuilders drank hemorrhoids with them
    2. siberalt
      siberalt April 2 2018 06: 13
      +4
      They drank it with the Indian comrades, now let them find the ends. lol
      1. Elena Zakharova
        Elena Zakharova April 2 2018 18: 33
        +2
        No one sawed anything.
        The number is minimal, to build such an aircraft carrier from scratch. need lard five greens, and even more.
        A plus should not be forgotten that the Indians themselves did a lot of mess during the modernization of the cruiser into an aircraft carrier.
        1. URAL72
          URAL72 April 2 2018 21: 18
          +2
          Lena, something I can’t believe. Castes in India have long been banned, and if the military violates the law ... And the population of India can do without the untouchables at all in the navy, and even more so with watercraft ...
    3. Hammer
      Hammer April 2 2018 06: 37
      +27
      "Cui prodest" (Who benefits). And it’s only profitable for mattresses who are trying to squeeze us out of the Indian arms market by hook or by crook. And the fifth column is in any state that will "fish in troubled waters" for American money. And it doesn’t matter that they don’t find anything. Here, as in the Skripal case, not evidence of guilt (cut, corruption, etc.) is important, but informational noise around military-technical cooperation between Delhi and Moscow. The noise that will create the right background for pressure on the Indian authorities and Moscow’s exclusion from new tenders for the purchase of weapons. That's actually the whole background. Those. the veiled fact of unfair competition on the arms markets by the "world hegemon" is on the face.
      1. TRex
        TRex April 2 2018 08: 58
        +7
        Comrade HAMMER, I completely agree with you! Recently, Indian "partners" often put forward their claims to Russian weapons - either the planes are bad (something often their pilots fight), then the tanks are outdated (which makes it difficult to come up with), now the ship is too expensive (almost at the price of scrap metal ) It came to the point that they require the transfer of technology for the production of aircraft engines with vector thrust.
        The question is - with what fright? The iron hand of the backstage director of this performance is felt.
        I clarify - previously this product was called "heavy aircraft cruiser" BAKU ". I saw him with my own eyes in the Sevastopol Bay.
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok April 2 2018 10: 57
          +2
          Quote: TRex
          Recently, Indian "partners" often put forward their claims to Russian weapons

          So with Wikramadiya, it really "didn’t work out beautifully." Objectively: repeated disruption of the delivery time, problems with EU and almost double the cost.
          1. Hammer
            Hammer April 2 2018 15: 40
            +3
            Quote: Normal ok
            So with Wikramadiya, it really "didn’t work out beautifully." Objectively: repeated disruption of the delivery time, problems with EU and almost double the cost.

            So it is, but only partly. As far as I remember, the price increased not only from the incorrectly prepared preliminary estimates for repairs and modernization. But also because of the specific requirements of the customer. For example, the Indians insisted that asbestos was excluded in the thermal protection of the Katles. And they made it of refractory bricks. Which on seven out of eight boilers began to cough up and fall out. As a result, it was necessary to change the entire thermal insulation of the boilers. Which naturally entailed additional costs and time to work. And this is not the only episode.
          2. Elena Zakharova
            Elena Zakharova April 2 2018 18: 41
            +2
            Quote: Normal ok
            Repeated failure of delivery dates,

            The Hindus themselves extended, then they need it, then this, and then something else they asked to put there.

            By the way, the brick in the boilers did not crumble ...
            It was the Indians who insisted that there was a brick in their boilers.
            Then, when the boilers grunted on the tests and put our brick, the boilers work!
    4. Elena Zakharova
      Elena Zakharova April 2 2018 18: 38
      +5
      It's a pity!
      A good ship, after all!
  2. Mwg
    Mwg April 2 2018 06: 05
    +10
    Liberals are the same in meaning in any country: What is ours, what is in India. How is it possible for a creature with hysterical thinking to explain the technical nuances that affect the price? No way.
    On this, liberals of all countries rest on inadequacy.
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 2 2018 06: 08
    +5
    $ 0,974 billion. However, in 2010, the documents of the Indian Ministry of Defense contained a different amount - $ 2,35 billion.
    Have you forgotten about the kickbacks? request
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  5. Strashila
    Strashila April 2 2018 06: 20
    +3
    This is how American intelligence works through various NGOs ... whether human rights or environmental, there are many variations ... like people want to know. An option is also possible ... the Indians simply ruined it with their exploitation ... now they decide what to do with it and at whose expense.
    1. NordOst16
      NordOst16 April 2 2018 09: 07
      +2
      But here we must be careful because it may well turn out that our shipbuilders, together with the Indian military, decided to cut the budget. And someone was bombed from this, so it’s not a fact that here the prison of democracy is involved
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 2 2018 06: 26
    +6
    In 2013, the aircraft carrier after deep modernization was transferred to the Indian Navy.

    Yeah, "less than half a year has passed!" Along the way, their solidol is Estonian. laughing
  7. Sergey985
    Sergey985 April 2 2018 06: 29
    +6
    Familiar song. And the money had to be distributed to the needy and hungry. Doesn’t resemble anything?
  8. bald
    bald April 2 2018 06: 33
    +3
    Looks like their corruption got.
  9. Simon
    Simon April 2 2018 06: 48
    +2
    Quote: 210ox
    Actually, I agree with you ... Only "Admiral Gorshkov" we already have .. hi Well, in principle, we always had enough of the honored military, so there are plenty to choose from.
    Quote: Herkulesich
    In my opinion, you just need to buy it out, rename it, wash it properly, and use it yourself! And then built for blackmailers fool !

    What a beautiful heroic name we will not find him! For that, we will have another aircraft carrier. wink
    1. NordOst16
      NordOst16 April 2 2018 09: 09
      +2
      Yes, we can’t give Kuznetsov’s mind, where is the second rusty trough? The Chinese and then a new ship plowed themselves.
      Although with our budget and blacksmiths is redundant
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  10. Simon
    Simon April 2 2018 06: 50
    +2
    Quote: bald
    Looks like their corruption got.

    And where it is not, this corruption web! We have already planted as much and still take.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 2 2018 08: 42
      +2
      Quote: Simon
      We have already planted as much and still take.

      The Chinese even shoot, but what's the point.
  11. pomegranate
    pomegranate April 2 2018 06: 51
    +7
    Here Indians give.
    I worked in the office for the production and installation of MTR on Gorshkov and our specialists still rode on it
    everything was fine with the Indian acceptance personally in Moscow !!!
    1. volodimer
      volodimer April 2 2018 09: 25
      +2
      Well, there are always dissatisfied, and if they throw some money, then you can inflate a strong butch, but the soil is fertile. And to recall how many copies were broken about the Mistral, I think that the suvalny one would still have estimated losses and kickbacks. Thanks to Hollande, saved at least from this.
      Well, "It is also stated that the Indian Ministry of Defense is required to" explain to the public "why such funds in the Navy decided to spend on a" non-modern aircraft carrier ", and not a new project." So in 2004 there was no line of people who wanted to build a new aircraft carrier for the Indians, there was ABSOLUTELY. And China then “Varyag” began to rebuild ...
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 2 2018 06: 51
    +6
    Either the planes are not satisfied, the aircraft carrier - the Americans are actively and fruitfully working to clear the site for their military-industrial complex.
    Indian "activists"
    And with the "activists" everything is clear. Our "activists" generally yell that a lot of money is spent on defense, and there’s no one to fight with, allegedly, there are no other militarists besides Russia.
    1. TRex
      TRex April 2 2018 09: 03
      +4
      They’ll receive from China a hill - and other songs will be sung ... My classmate spent six months on a business trip in this country. He says that such a mess, dirt, unsanitary conditions and gouging in life will not be forgotten. Most of the population is still in the colonial era.
  13. Vard
    Vard April 2 2018 06: 56
    +1
    That's what Indians like ... they’ll strangle themselves for a penny ... Household over the edges ...
  14. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman April 2 2018 07: 01
    +3
    In the course of the play, the Indians plunged into the sticky embrace of the Amerz swindlers! Oh, and get drunk! And they risk losing everything that they have achieved over the past 40 years. And most importantly, there will be something to save them, especially no one! Russia is no longer the USSR.
    1. Grigory_78
      Grigory_78 April 6 2018 11: 01
      +1
      The salvation of drowning people is always and everywhere the first thing is the drowning people themselves. And if a person firmly decided to drown, he will most likely drown, at least save him with ten men. So it is with states. Examples - by the very top. The same Europe - if it has already decided to shelter half of Africa and half of BV, then who is the enemy after that, Russia or what?
  15. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 April 2 2018 07: 23
    +1
    And our fellows, do not drive a new car for that kind of money. Although where would they buy cheaper?
  16. Naval
    Naval April 2 2018 07: 35
    0
    For an aircraft carrier, this is not a lot of money, well, and given the corruption prevailing in this country, where you can’t tell, you won’t go. And in general, cheaply got off.
    1. Vadim Kurbatov
      Vadim Kurbatov April 2 2018 07: 41
      +2
      for an aircraft carrier, I would say that even a penny after all, the service goes out annually about 120 million green and this is without an air wing
  17. K-50
    K-50 April 2 2018 08: 11
    +2
    The commission, created on the basis of previously published information on the growth in the value of the contract, intends to seek from the Indian Defense Ministry all the details of the agreement with Russia through the court.

    Surely pin dosniki fussed in earnest of "commission".
    This ju-ju is not casual, 5 years after the purchase of a hi-li raise.
  18. Fedorov
    Fedorov April 2 2018 08: 14
    +3
    They lack Russian brains.
    Hindus and Sri Lankans also studied with me. And now the cat was crying, respectively, and the result. Our iron needs attention.
  19. Mimohod
    Mimohod April 2 2018 08: 39
    +2
    As noted, Indian activists became interested in this issue,
    Which are taken from the funds of Soros and the CIA of the United States, they are tasked with driving a wedge into the trade and economic relations of Russia and India, the tentacles of the Anglo-Saxons are very long, but they need to be cut at distant approaches, developing contrary to jackals, relations with India are even more progressive than they were .. .
  20. exo
    exo April 2 2018 08: 40
    +2
    And with what joy: "... originally," Kharkov "? As far as I remember, he was called “Baku.” And my friend took him to the factory. And so it is possible and necessary to pick up such a handsome man. It seems that everything will come in handy soon.
  21. d1975
    d1975 April 2 2018 08: 41
    +1
    Quote: Herkulesich
    In my opinion, you just need to buy it out, rename it, wash it properly, and use it yourself! And then built for blackmailers fool !

    Hindus before setting home had to be dragged in Russian on the deck for a mustache, they would remember a century, and say that this is a great Russian naval tradition! laughing laughing laughing Take it all on video, and put it in the nth place in the archive! wink Then I assure you, he would be the coolest thing on Earth! fellow
  22. Piramidon
    Piramidon April 2 2018 08: 45
    0
    But on the deck you can sing and dance. Judging by the photo, they are already trying on.
  23. Simon
    Simon April 2 2018 08: 47
    +2
    Quote: sib.ataman
    In the course of the play, the Indians plunged into the sticky embrace of the Amerz swindlers! Oh, and get drunk! And they risk losing everything that they have achieved over the past 40 years. And most importantly, there will be something to save them, especially no one! Russia is no longer the USSR.

    In, in! It looks like an American footprint. It is true that the Americans tuned the public, threw up dollars. Everyone is doing so that they do not buy weapons from us.
  24. Sergey985
    Sergey985 April 2 2018 08: 48
    +1
    Sin to the Indians on the ship to complain. Now, if they could buy one of the Nimitans from the United States, then for sure they had long been struggling around the world with outstretched hands.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 April 2 2018 10: 34
      +3
      Not. Last George Bush Senior - 6,2 lard new cost.
      De Gaulle - 3,8-4.

      2,3 is old here. Moreover, even De Gaulle’s opportunities are much higher. There is its own AWACS. It is possible to throw the maximum take-off weight from aircraft. The intensity of the lifting / landing group is much higher.

      The Chinese played with Liaolin, built their Tip-001A and all. We switched to western architecture. The 002 type is already being built smooth-deck with catapults and a great emphasis on deck / hangar optimization and intensification of flight work.
      1. antivirus
        antivirus April 2 2018 12: 31
        +1
        question--
        price 1 take-off - landing and qty per hour
        and the total cost of exploiting the trough
      2. Grigory_78
        Grigory_78 April 6 2018 11: 09
        0
        Do De Gaulle with performance like? As far as I remember - almost nothing. And this is the French themselves, mind you. Americans in general are experts in selling 20-year-old ships at the price of new ones with a 10% discount. You can count.
        Western architecture can and will suit the Chinese - we'll see and see. They can exploit both of them and come to some kind of their own variant, a hybrid, as they have already done more than once in military affairs.
  25. vladasyar
    vladasyar April 2 2018 08: 49
    +3
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    $ 0,974 billion. However, in 2010, the documents of the Indian Ministry of Defense contained a different amount - $ 2,35 billion.
    Have you forgotten about the kickbacks? request

    0,974 billion is the case. Everything else upgrade
  26. aleks.29ru
    aleks.29ru April 2 2018 09: 00
    +1
    He took part in the modernization and went under warranty. Figuratively, I can compare with the Moskvich car after a major overhaul made somewhere in the south. You can ride. Well, if you are a "foodie", then this is your problem, my friend.
  27. Berkut24
    Berkut24 April 2 2018 10: 09
    +3
    The initial amount of the contract with the Russian Federation, according to the publication The Economic Times (India), was 0,974 billion dollars. However, in the 2010-th year in the documents of the Indian Ministry of Defense was listed a different amount - 2,35 billion dollars.
    As noted, Indian "activists" became interested in this issue, requiring the military department to declassify the documents relating to the final rise in price of the contract.

    Maybe activists will ask how much the American aircraft carrier or the Zumwalt destroyer is currently worth?
    1. Vadim Kurbatov
      Vadim Kurbatov April 2 2018 10: 26
      0
      They have destroyers and a half lard are
      1. Berkut24
        Berkut24 April 2 2018 11: 41
        +1
        Yes, here ... It is necessary to compare with similar products, and not incense sticks.
        1. Vadim Kurbatov
          Vadim Kurbatov April 2 2018 15: 15
          +1
          So they will compare shol? they choke for a penny an entirely new aircraft carrier s almost 6 lard is worth it without an air wing and there is every little thing with an air wing there it’s even more expensive to take into account that s have a capacity of 60 units and all this stuff buy fuel equipment weapons will come out pretty big penny
  28. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow April 2 2018 18: 29
    0
    Hindus, like Ukrainians, big freeloaders!
  29. pol_ovnik
    pol_ovnik April 2 2018 21: 38
    +1
    There is a war for the Indian market, and there appeared "activists", paid by you know who. Now they will unleash a deal with the "Russian thief VPK" and .. conclude an agreement on the acquisition of an old, but "cost-effective" Amer (simple) aircraft carrier. At the same time, the pro-Russian lobby in the Indian Defense Ministry is being fixed.
  30. mescalero
    mescalero April 3 2018 11: 58
    +1
    15 times he drowned, died among sharks, but never even blinked an eye ...
    It rusted, it burned, but no one sang friendly to him ....
  31. av58
    av58 April 4 2018 15: 01
    +1
    Corruption and politicking in India, as in other countries of the world, has not been canceled. A few years ago, the Indians, in my opinion in their Hinustan Times, seriously discussed how Russia deceived them and threw them from the Su-30MKI, since there are no necessary missiles to the planes, and this plane is absolutely useless, helpless against western competitors, and the price is it is inadequate. It was ill, so nothing new.
    1. FIFA from Cardiff
      FIFA from Cardiff April 4 2018 18: 07
      +2
      The frogmen also drove them to the contract almost empty Rafali, for each garbage they asked for a surcharge, so what do they want from us? One contract for airplanes, another for missiles, no rockets needed Throw from Su pots with your Indian shit into enemy planes
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  33. Imobile
    Imobile April 4 2018 18: 13
    +1
    Quote: Simon
    Quote: sib.ataman
    In the course of the play, the Indians plunged into the sticky embrace of the Amerz swindlers! Oh, and get drunk! And they risk losing everything that they have achieved over the past 40 years. And most importantly, there will be something to save them, especially no one! Russia is no longer the USSR.

    In, in! It looks like an American footprint. It is true that the Americans tuned the public, threw up dollars. Everyone is doing so that they do not buy weapons from us.

    This is all a market economy. The USSR could not sell anything on the market, however, we didn’t sell anything “on the market”, we delivered, and then we wrote off debts. If we want to sell our weapons, we must have good traders who know international laws. They need not many, but they must be PROFI. There will not be them, they will displace us from all markets. Well, or we will rejoice in deals where profit is less than kickbacks.
  34. doka
    doka April 4 2018 21: 01
    0
    The untouchable money was stolen, the brahmanas get rid of it, they say Putin is to blame,
  35. CRASH
    CRASH April 4 2018 21: 12
    0
    It seems the Indians began to understand something ... urgently carry t90 for cheaper.
  36. Gado
    Gado April 4 2018 22: 46
    0
    Gypsies were sold at a low price, but they don’t understand anything in such a technique. So they whine idiot.
  37. Swag
    Swag April 5 2018 04: 13
    0
    Where is Shiva looking ...
  38. Artem Popov
    Artem Popov April 5 2018 12: 22
    -1
    Quote: Elena Zakharova
    Quote: Normal ok
    Repeated failure of delivery dates,

    The Hindus themselves extended, then they need it, then this, and then something else they asked to put there.

    By the way, the brick in the boilers did not crumble ...
    It was the Indians who insisted that there was a brick in their boilers.
    Then, when the boilers grunted on the tests and put our brick, the boilers work!

    what are you saying!
    Indians did not like the thermal insulation of boilers asbestos. I didn’t like it very well, do you want to work in a building made of asbestos ?. The problem turned out to be that in Russia they no longer produce refractory bricks of the right brand. What you found and delivered in Severodvinsk, as you know, crumbled on the go. Oh really, no one in the world uses this option of thermal insulation and our shipyard had to be a pioneer ?! No, they just bought something simpler and what was not suitable for ship mechanisms at all.
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  40. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch April 6 2018 13: 59
    0
    Yes, for the Indian Ocean such an aircraft carrier cruiser, just a song! He’s generally alone there (I don’t take it into account!), While others don’t have anything like that, and they prepared sailors for them, they simply don’t know how to use them.
  41. Abel
    Abel April 6 2018 15: 59
    0
    They’ll arrange a fire again. A stunning country, the more I read, the more I am surprised. Sell ​​us an aircraft carrier (tank, rocket) for twenty cents. And give us technology and build a plant. Oh do not want to ?! Then we’ll re-call everyone that your equipment is outdated, breaks, burns, and generally disgusting.
  42. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 April 6 2018 22: 01
    0
    Quote: Geisenberg
    And what's the point now to pull this crap out of the light ??? They won’t return the money back, but they will undermine the country's defense capabilities without a doubt. These activists simply dishonor their country to the whole world. Apparently another Judah deal ...

    This is another attempt to oust the Russian Federation from the Indian arms market. Well, Christ sellers can be bought in any country (including the Russian Federation) - the buyer would have a desire, but he clearly has one!
  43. Pushkar
    Pushkar April 8 2018 11: 55
    0
    Do not forget that India is a member of the British Commonwealth of Nations. "The Commonwealth includes the so-called Kingdom of the Commonwealth - 16 states (including the United Kingdom) in which the head of state is the British monarch, submitted by the Governor General.Forget Hindi-Rus-Bhai.