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Taliban * declared war on ISIS *

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Today, the Afghan media referring to the statement of the command of the radical Taliban movement * report that the Afghan Taliban have declared war on the "Islamic State" * (ISIL *).


Taliban * declared war on ISIS *


The Taliban issued a statement:

ISIS * - "this group of modern" Kharijites "(apostates-prim), cruel atheists and mercenaries (...) sow discord and enmity (...), trying to destroy the unity of the Sunnis, Shiites and Ismailis of Afghanistan, inciting against each other, kills theologians and discredits the holy religion of Islam before the world


The statement also states that the reason for declaring war was the capture by militants of ISIL *, Darzab county in Jowzjan province,
“where a group of“ Kharijites ”tried to expand their sphere of influence, having committed the most serious crimes, decapitated the captured Mujahideen 20”
.

The Taliban movement * calls on all its supporters "henceforth in all parts of Afghanistan to pay tribute to them and to avenge the Mujahideen," the report said.

Taliban *, Islamic State * (ISIS *) - banned in Russia
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 31 March 2018 18: 56
    +24
    No, well, there are also good wars in the world. smile Horseradish with radish will be at war.
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 31 March 2018 19: 14
      +18
      Exactly here, ancient Chinese wisdom is perfectly appropriate:
      ... Sit quietly on the riverbank, and the corpse of your enemy will pass by ...

      (Confucius)
      Even before the heap, it would bring the current, lyuley, to one of our “partners” in the fight against terrorism.
      Not for the sake of lyuli, exclusively for enlightenment in the brain.
    2. poquello
      poquello 31 March 2018 19: 15
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      No, well, there are also good wars in the world. smile Horseradish with radish will be at war.

      this is not so, the Mujahideen agreed with the government, and not without our participation
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 31 March 2018 19: 19
        +10
        Quote: poquello
        ... this is not so, the Mujahideen agreed with the government, and not without our participation ...

        I remember as geldings on the topic of our participation, screaming to the whole globe about Russia's arming of terrorists in Afghanistan.
        1. poquello
          poquello 31 March 2018 19: 28
          +4
          Quote: Andrey K
          Quote: poquello
          ... this is not so, the Mujahideen agreed with the government, and not without our participation ...

          I remember as geldings on the topic of our participation, screaming to the whole globe about Russia's arming of terrorists in Afghanistan.

          everything that the geldings yell and the rest of the bourgeoisie with them should be taken at the level of the yellow press
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 April 1 2018 00: 51
            +7
            Quote: Vladimirets
            No, well, there are also good wars in the world. smile Horseradish with radish will be at war.

            There are no "good" wars. Talibov in Afghanistan, Russia will survive. And if ISIS is dug in there, the war will continue as soon as they lick their wounds. And it will not be a shootout in Afghanistan or Syria, it will be terrorist attacks in our cities.
            ISIS must be crushed, and if for this it is necessary to help the Taliban, then the Taliban must be helped.
        2. Rostislav
          Rostislav 31 March 2018 20: 27
          +8
          If the geldings are yelling, then we are doing everything right. An old sign.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 31 March 2018 19: 38
        +1
        Taliban can be "partners" only during negotiations ..
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: Vladimirets
        No, well, there are also good wars in the world. smile Horseradish with radish will be at war.

        this is not so, the Mujahideen agreed with the government, and not without our participation
        1. poquello
          poquello 31 March 2018 19: 44
          0
          Quote: 210ox
          Taliban can be "partners" only during negotiations ..
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Vladimirets
          No, well, there are also good wars in the world. smile Horseradish with radish will be at war.

          this is not so, the Mujahideen agreed with the government, and not without our participation

          I don’t know, recently only the news was negotiated - the jihad was already announced to the Ishilov’s, such a coincidence
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 31 March 2018 21: 44
            +2
            Quote: poquello
            I don’t know, recently only the news was negotiated - the jihad was already announced to the Ishilov’s, such a coincidence

            In my opinion this is a "left infa" launched by whoever needs it. The whole essence of the question is that the Taliban is recognized as a terrorist organization and any negotiations with the Taliban automatically put us on a par with terrorists. There was already a duck with the fact that we are supplying the Taliban with weapons, the goal is not particularly hidden - we support terrorists
            1. poquello
              poquello 31 March 2018 21: 53
              0
              Quote: APASUS
              Quote: poquello
              I don’t know, recently only the news was negotiated - the jihad was already announced to the Ishilov’s, such a coincidence

              In my opinion this is a "left infa" launched by whoever needs it. The whole essence of the question is that the Taliban is recognized as a terrorist organization and any negotiations with the Taliban automatically put us on a par with terrorists. There was already a duck with the fact that we are supplying the Taliban with weapons, the goal is not particularly hidden - we support terrorists

              with a nonsense about our weapons to the Taliban, everything is clear, ett is a little bit wrong - ours and the Americans and now I do not remember who signed the statement that the conflict in Afghanistan must be regulated through peaceful negotiations
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 31 March 2018 22: 16
                +1
                Quote: poquello
                I don’t remember who signed the statement that the conflict in Afghanistan should be regulated through peaceful negotiations

                The goals of all parties to the signatories are different, and we have already seen how some parties relate to their promises.
                1. poquello
                  poquello April 1 2018 02: 23
                  0
                  Quote: APASUS
                  Quote: poquello
                  I don’t remember who signed the statement that the conflict in Afghanistan should be regulated through peaceful negotiations

                  The goals of all parties to the signatories are different, and we have already seen how some parties relate to their promises.

                  but there’s a piece of paper - you can put pressure on the Americans
                  1. Orionvit
                    Orionvit April 1 2018 10: 25
                    +1
                    Quote: poquello
                    but there’s a piece of paper - you can put pressure on the Americans

                    Yes, the Americans wanted to spit on all the pieces of paper. They always pursue exclusively their interests.
                    1. poquello
                      poquello April 1 2018 12: 38
                      0
                      Quote: Orionvit
                      Quote: poquello
                      but there’s a piece of paper - you can put pressure on the Americans

                      Yes, the Americans wanted to spit on all the pieces of paper. They always pursue exclusively their interests.

                      ) want to say that PR for the United States does not matter? I will not believe
                      1. Orionvit
                        Orionvit April 1 2018 13: 33
                        0
                        Quote: poquello
                        that PR for the United States does not matter?

                        PR in real life is usually very far from the actual state of things.
                  2. APASUS
                    APASUS 29 June 2018 14: 13
                    +1
                    Quote: poquello
                    Quote: APASUS
                    Quote: poquello
                    I don’t remember who signed the statement that the conflict in Afghanistan should be regulated through peaceful negotiations

                    The goals of all parties to the signatories are different, and we have already seen how some parties relate to their promises.

                    but there’s a piece of paper - you can put pressure on the Americans

                    Crush a piece of paper? On the Americans? Are you kidding?
                    They are no longer embarrassed to violate agreements with their allies, and they will send us far and further.
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 29 June 2018 22: 27
                      0
                      Quote: APASUS
                      Crush a piece of paper? On the Americans? Are you kidding?
                      They are no longer embarrassed to violate agreements with their allies, and they will send us far and further.

                      hmm, relationships are built on contracts, violation of one side of the contract entails the right to act on the other, those relationships are there or not
                      1. APASUS
                        APASUS 30 June 2018 09: 43
                        0
                        Quote: poquello
                        hmm, relationships are built on contracts, violation of one side of the contract entails the right to act on the other, those relationships are there or not

                        What kind of relationship are you all talking about?
                        We have been taken away property in the USA, removed our flags from buildings, impose sanctions on simply ridiculous pretexts, violate the fundamental principles of contracts, and you all believe in relationships.
                        At the moment, our relations with the Americans are approximately at the level of relations with Germany in 1941, well, maybe a little better.
            2. Artem Popov
              Artem Popov 21 June 2018 13: 54
              -1
              Why do we need ducks, we not only support Hamas and Hezbollah, but also officially accept them in the Kremlin. Surprisingly close: we refuse to consider them terrorists, allegedly because they "did not commit terrorist acts in the territory of the Russian Federation."
      3. artifact
        artifact April 1 2018 16: 21
        0
        so I say hackers where are without them omnipresent !?
    3. K-50
      K-50 31 March 2018 19: 20
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      No, well, there are also good wars in the world. smile Horseradish with radish will be at war.

      What good is again the war of all with everyone, and even “under the belly” of Russia. The only good news is that we have not yet been dragged there.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 31 March 2018 19: 26
        +5
        What good is again the war of all with everyone, and even “under the belly” of Russia.
        Yes, she did not stop there. Let them hammer each other. Most likely poppy fields were not divided or something else. It is good for us that if they seriously clash there, then the risks of invading Turkestan are reduced.
      2. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 31 March 2018 19: 31
        +7
        The only thing that is clear in this situation is that the locals will fight with the aliens, and from history it is clear that the Afghans are invincible. It is necessary to somehow help, secretly or explicitly.
        1. K-50
          K-50 31 March 2018 19: 33
          +2
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          It is necessary to somehow help, secretly or explicitly.

          Yes, and already there was a howl that our weapons are allegedly being delivered to the Taliban. even though they gnaw at each other’s teeth, if only they wouldn’t cross the river.
        2. tank66
          tank66 31 March 2018 20: 25
          +1
          / lazily / Did you remember Serebryakov from the vile kins? Afgan was conquered by everyone, at that time it was necessary. Türks, Persians, Alexander Fillipych. Another question / how with Elusive Joe / who needs it now.
        3. Weyland
          Weyland 31 March 2018 21: 29
          +3
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          and it’s clear from history that the Afghans are invincible

          Who told you that? Many won them, and more than once - there was simply a lot of trouble with them, and there was little profit.
        4. Artem Popov
          Artem Popov 21 June 2018 14: 00
          0
          Propagated myth. Through Afghanistan as through the courtyard of the army of empires went. "invincibility" is that the hill tribes wanted to spit who sits in Kabul and valleys, even on their Shah, were at enmity with him.
      3. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 31 March 2018 19: 47
        +4
        Quote: K-50
        What good is the war of all with everyone again

        To avoid wars, all the good must gather and kill all the bad. wink
      4. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 31 March 2018 19: 55
        0
        Quote: K-50
        Quote: Vladimirets
        No, well, there are also good wars in the world. smile Horseradish with radish will be at war.

        What good is again the war of all with everyone, and even “under the belly” of Russia. The only good news is that we have not yet been dragged there.

        The fact that they are fighting is, of course, bad, but it would be even worse for us if the Taliban and ISIS stopped fighting with each other and agreed to fight against us, for example, in Tajikistan or Uzbekistan.
    4. Herculesic
      Herculesic 31 March 2018 19: 35
      +1
      Girls got into a fight over Afghan heroin, they wanted to throw us on drugs! !! wassat
    5. RUSS
      RUSS 31 March 2018 19: 44
      +4
      Quote: Vladimirets
      No, well, there are also good wars in the world. smile Horseradish with radish will be at war.

      Talib is a student, a student of medersa.
      By the way, the Taliban first thing in Afghanistan destroyed poppy fields, then the truth is when the Americans pressed them, the fields were populated again with poppy ....
    6. tol100v
      tol100v 31 March 2018 20: 05
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Horseradish with radish will fight

      CIA with the State Department or what?
    7. grau
      grau 31 March 2018 20: 19
      0
      A good war is better than a bad world
      1. LMN
        LMN 31 March 2018 22: 09
        +5
        Quote: grau
        A good war is better than a bad world

        I haven’t heard anything more idiotic.
  2. svp67
    svp67 31 March 2018 18: 57
    +3
    Taliban * declared war on ISIS *
    Two spiders in one jar can not get along ...
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 31 March 2018 19: 12
      +6
      It’s time to help the Taliban so that unknown helicopters do not fly across Afghanistan and sow this infection-ishil, and give the Americans no reason to spread Javelins.
      1. svp67
        svp67 31 March 2018 19: 19
        +1
        Quote: ML-334
        It's time to help the Taliban

        There are plenty of assistants there ... It would be nice for Russia to be in the role of observer.
        1. ul_vitalii
          ul_vitalii 31 March 2018 19: 37
          +8
          Some of them lost cash income from oil, while others do not want to lose drugs, let alone share with former "oil workers".
        2. ML-334
          ML-334 31 March 2018 19: 55
          0
          If you want the result, do it yourself.
        3. tol100v
          tol100v 31 March 2018 20: 07
          0
          Quote: svp67
          ..Russia would not be bad to be in the role

          Distributor of Truth around the World!
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 31 March 2018 20: 04
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      Two spiders in one jar can not get along ...

      That's for sure, a direct competitor must be destroyed. They have been fighting for a long time almost from the base of the caliphate. The Taliban even created special forces They are better trained and equipped than ordinary Taliban troops, their main goal is to defeat the IS. Special forces will fight ISIS anywhere, leaving the rest of the Taliban to confront the Afghan army and the international contingent.
      The groups declared war on each other in January 2015, after the IS announced the creation of its cell in Great Khorasan - that was the name of Afghanistan and the neighboring regions of Pakistan, Iran and Central Asia.


      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 31 March 2018 23: 22
        +3
        ISIS, immediately after its formation in 2008, declared Al Qaeda the main enemy.
        Its main ideological competitor. And ISIS really began to water Al Qaeda. The CIA pecked at it. And relaxed. And ISIS dealt a sudden blow to the bases of the Shiite Iraqi army and defeated them. Panic and flight began. And away we go ...
        1. Artem Popov
          Artem Popov 21 June 2018 14: 04
          0
          Only ISIS, not ISIS. Not the CIA relaxed, but the Iraqi Shiite leadership, which ignored the recommendations of American advisers, staged the persecution of Sunnis and led the country to disaster
  3. Mimohod
    Mimohod 31 March 2018 19: 00
    +1
    Taliban * declares war on ISIS
    I don’t feel like stepping on an old and rusty rake, but besides Russia in Afghanistan, nobody can level the igil with sand in real life ....
    1. mvg
      mvg 31 March 2018 19: 07
      +4
      15 years and 50 thousand people were not enough for you? a lot of equipment and dough. and this will just unite everyone in the Caucasus, against Russia, if we climb there to separate.
      stuffing Saturday information, and until April 1 another 3 hours, too early.
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 31 March 2018 19: 18
        0
        Quote: mvg
        15 years and 50 thousand people were not enough for you?

        it was enough for me, it was enough for me to see my disabled neighbor, but I remember a young, healthy, cheerful guy who went into the army ...
        1. I am
          I am 31 March 2018 20: 26
          0
          So you want to see all the neighbors in the coffins ??? I do not !!! so it’s better to fight there. not at home.
      2. poquello
        poquello 31 March 2018 19: 18
        0
        Quote: mvg
        15 years and 50 thousand people were not enough for you? a lot of equipment and dough. and this will just unite everyone in the Caucasus

        with what a fright, everything is already united and it must be crushed - ett once, Gorbachev afghan leaked - ett two
      3. Doliva63
        Doliva63 31 March 2018 19: 23
        +17
        Not 15 years, but 10; not 50 thousand people, but 15 thousand (on the roads more than 20 thousand die per year). Despite the fact that we were opposed by 15 states. Where is the cause for panic? True, then there was the USSR.
        1. mvg
          mvg 31 March 2018 21: 01
          +1
          79-89, more than 51 thousand dead, 10 is in the press.
          all g .. not united, it crushes itself in Syria itself, and everyone rallied when we entered Afghanistan, and Pakistan, and KSA and Qatar, and the United States with the stingers.
          we have long been no longer the USSR and now confronts us no less, but more. Then at least we had an ATS behind us. And then overstrained.
          Enough now Syria, Donbas, Abkhazia, Transnistria, Karabakh, Ossetia.

          http://russian7.ru/post/kakie-na-samom-dele-byli-
          poteri-sssr-va /
          1. ventel
            ventel April 1 2018 00: 26
            +1
            Maxim, you didn’t list all, I can supplement China, Egypt, and how can Libya, both Emen and Algeria, be without friends of the USSR. Read as it was at your leisure the recollection of the commandos as they hunted for the stingers. There they described a case where they captured a caravan with arrows, struck by numbers, it turns out the party was sent to one of the Maghreb countries.
            1. mvg
              mvg April 1 2018 01: 38
              0
              The whole Muslim world in general. Therefore, climb there, this is the finish. From time to time they need to throw up the enemy, and strife, as Israel does. And I got drugs from the Big Bell Tower. Let even the Afghan from the satellite be all red.
              1. sergeyezhov
                sergeyezhov April 1 2018 08: 33
                0
                Quote: mvg
                From time to time, they need to throw up the enemy, and strife, as Israel does

                Well, finally, you began to understand us.
            2. Artem Popov
              Artem Popov 21 June 2018 14: 09
              0
              Where have you read such a mess? On the miller there are memoirs of the deputy of Pakistani counterintelligence, who oversaw the interaction with the Mujahideen. The stingers were so secret that the main condition for receiving a new batch was the return by the commanders of all the fired tubes (as well as effectiveness). And even when the tubes and the complexes themselves were captured - what numbers, where to punch, Ale? Call the CIA headquarters “where did your cargo go?”
      4. Mimohod
        Mimohod 31 March 2018 19: 23
        +10
        Do not la la, Afghanistan leaked a hunchbacked, In the end there was more or less resolved and the situation was controlled, And from drug trafficking controlled in Afghanistan, the Yankees, over the years more people have died and not only in Russia, and the Yankees spend money on the same igil and dangerous The strategic foothold for Central Asia and Russia was handed over to the amers not permissively and criminally .... we lost more - having left there, leaving those who believed us ...
      5. I am
        I am 31 March 2018 20: 25
        +4
        Do not lie !!! There were not 50 thousand. there were 15 thousand. and yes. it’s better to fight there than on your own territory. Or do you propose to fence off the wall? that won't help. And learn the story before you carry this nonsense. sitting in the bushes you can’t survive !!!
        1. mvg
          mvg 31 March 2018 21: 04
          0
          Stasia, you read at least something real about Afghanistan, and not books, where a girl with asthma is in a helicopter to the sky to breathe. Google will give so much information, and numbers.
          And the figure of 51 thousand will be more real.
          1. gsev
            gsev 31 March 2018 21: 39
            0
            The figure of 15 thousand was voiced at the height of perestroika, when Gorbachev and Shevornadze had to justify their actions in the eyes of the CPSU and the leadership of Russia. Perhaps they agreed with their Western partners. But they did not make sense to downplay it. It usually seems that the enemy has lost 5 times more than in reality. And Russia's human losses as a result of the rule of Yeltsin and Gorbachev are 3 orders of magnitude greater than the losses in Afghanistan.
            1. mvg
              mvg 31 March 2018 22: 29
              0
              I gave the link above .. you can read. That's not for long. Directly from the pages of Our newspapers.
          2. Sergey Medvedev
            Sergey Medvedev April 1 2018 01: 29
            +1
            Quote: mvg
            And the figure of 51 thousand will be more real.

            Absolutely unrealistic figure. For 1 killed 10 wounded, injured and sick. So compare the total losses with the number of OKSVA. And do not litter people's brains.
            1. mvg
              mvg April 1 2018 02: 30
              0
              Let’s sleep now, and tomorrow I’ll calculate everything for you. From several sources. And I will give links.
              1. Sergey Medvedev
                Sergey Medvedev April 1 2018 10: 27
                0
                Quote: mvg
                Let’s sleep now, and tomorrow I’ll calculate everything for you. From several sources. And I will give links.

                Sure, not a problem. I myself took into account the losses of my regiment in Chechnya. Therefore, ride on my ears will not work. hi
            2. mvg
              mvg April 1 2018 10: 39
              0
              Constant contingent. The question is, how many Soviet troops took part in the Afghan war? We learn from fragmentary information from our Ministry of Defense that there were 180 military camps in Afghanistan and 788 battalion commanders took part in the hostilities. We believe that, on average, the battalion commander lived in Afghanistan for 2 years. So, over the 10 years of the war, the number of battalion commanders has been updated 5 times. Consequently, in Afghanistan there were constantly annually about 788: 5 - 157 combat battalions. The number of military camps and the number of battalions are quite close to each other.


              Assuming that the battle battalion was served by at least 500 people, we get that in the 40th army there were 157 * 500 = 78500 people. For the normal functioning of the troops fighting the enemy, auxiliary parts of the rear are needed (the supply of ammunition, fuel and lubricants, repair shops, guarding caravans, guarding roads, guarding military towns, battalions, regiments, divisions, army, hospitals, etc. .). The ratio of the number of auxiliary units to the military is approximately 3: 1 - this is approximately 235500 troops. Thus, the total number of servicemen who were constantly in Afghanistan annually was at least 314 thousand people.

              General figures. So, in 10 years of the war, Afghanistan has been at least three million people, of which 800 thousand participated in the hostilities. Our total losses amounted to at least 460 thousand people, of which 50 thousand were killed, 180 thousand wounded, including 100 thousand who were blown up by mines - seriously wounded, 1000 missing, 230 thousand patients with hepatitis, jaundice, typhoid fever.

              http://licey.net/free/2-srazheniya__izmenivshie_h
              od_istorii / 12-srazheniya__izmenivshie_hod_istorii
              __1945_2004 / stages / 1288-48_cena_afganskoi_voiny.h
              tml
              1. gsev
                gsev April 1 2018 16: 31
                +1
                CCCP could not provide a group of more than 100-130 thousand people for a long time. If he could, then having a 200-250000 soldier in Afghanistan would be able to block the borders and carry out military operations to destroy partisans inside the country. But the USSR economy allowed conducting military operations only within the country; there were no funds to close the borders. Americans, too, cannot afford this. 230 thousand killed and seriously wounded, this is in every second apartment building a dead or legless disabled person. 50 killed in 000 years, this is for 10 schoolchildren boys 400 killed. 1 is more correct.
                1. mvg
                  mvg April 1 2018 16: 52
                  0
                  Vladimir, I worked in social protection for 3 years (as a system administrator and chief specialist), all (from the word ALL) information on the number (of people and payments) flocked to me. Every month 2 times. I just fucked up how many “Afghans”, “Chernobyl victims” and other “social elements” we have. In the area of ​​75 thousand. Believe me, a lot., It’s lazy to recount the numbers on the total population ... football is on.
                  ps: Yes and no reason. I think that that war was a big mistake, the secretaries general did not calculate anything, it was necessary to see how the coup would end and choose the right side ..
              2. Sergey Medvedev
                Sergey Medvedev April 2 2018 00: 28
                0
                Quote: mvg
                . Thus, the total number of servicemen who were constantly in Afghanistan annually was at least 314 thousand people.

                Here you have fastened nonsense with links, including the number of military camps. OKSVA is the 40th army of about 100 troops. ALL! There were no more than 000 combined-arms armies in the history of the USSR. Even during the Second World War, this was a rarity, only for shock armies. All military (professional) know such common truths. Therefore, noodles on the ears about the 100th combined arms army of TurkVO in 000 people can be hanged only civilians. And you seem to be friends with math, so consider it. You are deceived by these links about 40 times. hi
              3. Sergey Medvedev
                Sergey Medvedev April 2 2018 00: 41
                0
                Quote: mvg
                The ratio of the number of auxiliary units to the military is approximately 3: 1 - this is approximately 235500 troops.

                Damn, Maxim, please do not tell the military anymore with such numbers. Let me give you an example of a motorized rifle division. There are 6 combat regiments and a dozen auxiliary battalions, as you call them. The ratio of "fighters" and "rear" in the Ground Forces of the SA was 8: 1. In the United States, for example, this ratio is 1: 1. Their rear is very developed, but so that there are 3 rear lines per fighter. this is not and never was in any army in the world!
            3. Korax71
              Korax71 April 1 2018 13: 57
              -1
              Actually, 3 people per one victim. But with such arithmetic, after the Russian one, the entire population of the country will be wounded. And more than once.
              1. Sergey Medvedev
                Sergey Medvedev April 2 2018 00: 54
                0
                Quote: Korax71
                Actually, 3 people per one victim. But with such arithmetic, after the Russian one, the entire population of the country will be wounded. And more than once.

                About WWII you are right. But since then, the medical service of the Armed Forces has stepped forward, and not only on issues of pure medicine, but most importantly in technical support. Now in each combat battalion there are 3 armored tow trucks - MTLB. And if necessary, the commander will appoint any non-medical vehicle to evacuate his subordinate. The wounded are simply brought to the table to the surgeon faster. In comparison with the Second World War. Therefore, the survival rate is higher. Now, after all, there is no infantry at all. All on technology.
                1. mvg
                  mvg April 2 2018 01: 22
                  0
                  Sergey, hi , I just quoted 2-3 links, and I know that Moscow Region is inclined to lie, the truth, I think, is somewhere in the middle. Read non-Russian links to confused, since the Jews give the most objective information, and they did not care before that war.
                  The fact that we have a lot of Afghans, I knew from work.
                  A couple of years ago I asked this question and read a lot, documentary too. It turned out that it was not very good there. Yes, and in Chechnya, as I understand it, too.
                  I’m not a military man, but it’s unpleasant when politicians throw young guys in such a kitchen. They then really blow the roof. I have seen that. Often.
                  1. Sergey Medvedev
                    Sergey Medvedev April 2 2018 05: 06
                    0
                    Quote: mvg
                    and I know that MO is inclined to lie,

                    I do not agree with you. The worst liars are bohemians. The media also loves to exaggerate in the pursuit of sensationalism. For example, I’ll give Bondarchuk’s film “9th Company”, shot “on the basis of” a real battle. In a real battle, 6 people died from a company (a hundred fighters). And in the film, man 6 survived. Agree that Bondarchuk turned everything upside down. But people tend to believe in vivid artistic images, and not in the dry and honest figures of official reports. And you too are mistaken in many ways.
                    By the way, I saw people blowing the roof too. People who have not fought anywhere.
                2. Artem Popov
                  Artem Popov 21 June 2018 14: 17
                  0
                  Do not write. In shooting combat, the loss ratio remained 1k3. And above, the person immediately mentioned the DISEASED, MIA, etc. During combat activities of low intensity, patients always had much more combat losses, at times. So only in the first world combat losses exceeded the sanitary, due to the meat-grinder attacks.
          3. aws4
            aws4 April 1 2018 02: 13
            +3
            50 thousand is a lie !!! to begin with, if it doesn’t bother you, find out how many soldiers and officers have visited Afghanistan .. after that, look at the number of troops for each year of the war .. even the Americans admitted that the maximum losses of the USSR after their help reached up to 2 thousand a year .. so 15 thousand is a real figure ..
            1. mvg
              mvg April 1 2018 10: 41
              0
              Different numbers, above gave a link. You can fight for any. Knowing our MO, I am inclined to believe this.
              1. poquello
                poquello April 1 2018 12: 56
                +1
                Quote: mvg
                Different numbers, above gave a link. You can fight for any. Knowing our MO, I am inclined to believe this.

                enough to carry the blizzard
                In total, about 620 thousand officers, warrant officers, sergeants and soldiers passed military service in Afghanistan. Including 525,2 thousand in the OKSV, about 90 thousand from border troops and other units of the KGB of the USSR, and about 5 thousand from the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR. Of these, 546 thousand were direct participants in the hostilities. In addition, 21 thousand people were in the posts of workers and employees in the Soviet troops.

                For courage and heroism shown during the period of military operations in Afghanistan, 86 servicemen from the OKSV were awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union (28 posthumously). More than 200 thousand military personnel were awarded other orders and medals of the USSR, including: 103 - the Order of Lenin, 972 - the Order of the Red Banner and 52 520 - the Order of the Red Star.

                The total irretrievable casualties of the Soviet Armed Forces amounted to 14 people. At the same time, 453 people lost their governing bodies, formations and parts of the ACSV. In Afghanistan, 13 military personnel were captured and missing, of which 833 people were released from captivity, 417 by 119 returned home.

                Sanitary losses amounted to 469 people, including: 685 people were injured, shell-shocked and injured (53%); 753 11,44 people (415%) fell ill.
          4. I am
            I am April 1 2018 21: 46
            +1
            Thanks for the care of course. And if you read but not Wikipedia, not Google ??? and normal sources ??? Or do you trust only those inform resources that are located outside the territory of Russia? I'm so the other way around. Especially Soviet. And especially, if you recall that my father was a pilot ..... military. so whose infa will be more reliable ???
      6. Weyland
        Weyland 31 March 2018 21: 32
        +2
        Quote: mvg
        if we climb there to separate.

        must not be separated, but vice versa. And no troop deployment - only rockets and drones must cross the border!
      7. aws4
        aws4 April 1 2018 02: 22
        0
        but the fact that you should not climb there is that you are right
    2. Alex-a832
      Alex-a832 31 March 2018 19: 33
      +2
      Quote: Mimohod
      except Russia in Afghanistan, nobody can level the igil with sand in real life ....

      The Taliban will calmly deal with this. They are hindered by the United States, which are sitting on their favorite drug trafficking. Russia will not directly collide with the United States. If the official authorities of Afghanistan along with the Taliban can burn Amer’s drug trafficking, then smoking them will be easier again through joint efforts. In this case, I think, the Taliban will miraculously have new MANPADS for working on Amer’s sides, as “stingers” they once appeared against our “crocodiles”.
  4. karish
    karish 31 March 2018 19: 02
    +6
    trying to destroy the unity of the Sunnis, Shiites and Ismailis of Afghanistan

    no need to read further laughing
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 31 March 2018 19: 37
      +1
      No read lol and for you black is written on the keyboard lol
    2. gsev
      gsev 31 March 2018 21: 47
      +2
      And in this phrase I feel that she is said and suffered by an Afghan, not a foreigner. Before Americans entered Afghanistan, non-Afghans did not divide their citizens into nations. Even asking the Afghan what kind of nation he was was not quite decent. But now it’s not so. Americans are able to incite ethnic hatred in the countries that interest them. The Taliban, unlike ISIS, are primarily Afghan patriots.
      1. Korax71
        Korax71 April 1 2018 14: 06
        -1
        Not quite right. You know the Muslim world a little poorly. A simple example. In Dagestan there are more than 60 nationalities. Arriving in Russia, anyone will call themselves Dagestanis. But at home it will be Avar, Lezgin, Dargin, Khazar, Lak. And they don’t have unity gram. in the best case, it will only be in the face of total danger, and that is not a fact. It is similar in Afghanistan. yes, in principle, to any Muslim country.
        1. gsev
          gsev April 1 2018 16: 49
          0
          So, as a result of the entry of the Americans into Afghanistan, national strife there has greatly increased. And before that, external forces have always been recognized as the enemy. For example, a delegation from Iran arrived to Ahman Shah when he fought to the Taliban to death and asked how his forces would interact with the Iranians in the event of the invasion of Iranian troops in Afghanistan to fight the Taliban. "I will become a Taliban and I will fight against the Iranians."
          Quote: Korax71
          anyone will call themselves Dagestanis. but at home it will be an Avar, Lezgin, Dargin, Khazar, Lak. and they don’t have unity. In the best case, it will only be in the face of total danger and that’s not a fact

          In general, co-education smoothes out national contradictions. This is apparently true in national criminal groups, but in a more or less complex production I did not see any problems with Russian contacts with representatives of other peoples and between them. Many more problems are created by personal qualities, the level of mind and not national differences. The problems I have indicated in Afghanistan are caused by the presence of various news programs with a national bias. And this does not mean that the Afghan society and intelligentsia are not fighting for the unity of their country.
      2. Artem Popov
        Artem Popov 21 June 2018 14: 22
        0
        Well, expert. Yes, they did not divide into "nations" because the nation did not work out. They divided themselves into tribes and nationalities. Read at least a little on the ethnography of Afghanistan, on political history. This is an eternal struggle between two groups of clans - Pashtun and Tajik, and a trifle under their feet in the form of Uzbeks. Hazaras, etc.
  5. taiga2018
    taiga2018 31 March 2018 19: 06
    0
    I think that the "unidentified" helicopters delivered the necessary amount of green paper to the Taliban ...
    1. tank66
      tank66 31 March 2018 19: 09
      +1
      and groups of modern Kharijites.
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 31 March 2018 19: 11
        0
        Quote: tank66
        and groups of modern Kharijites.

        Well, where without them, plus military transport services for the delivery of drugs around the world ...
        1. tank66
          tank66 31 March 2018 19: 19
          0
          Duc, still Great-grandfather of the Rothschilds, the barony in Brutania FIG knows when he received, for the development of this logistics with "tea" clippers.
  6. Egorovich
    Egorovich 31 March 2018 19: 08
    0
    Allah to the Taliban to help! Both of them are good, but the Taliban fight only in Afghanistan, so the lesser of two evils is better.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 31 March 2018 19: 11
      0
      Not only Pakistan is having fun
    2. karish
      karish 31 March 2018 19: 11
      0
      Quote: Egorovich
      but the Taliban fight only in Afghanistan, so the lesser of the two evils is better.

      And Shiites (Afghan) in Syria, against the Sunnis.
      so what unity is it about
    3. sergeyezhov
      sergeyezhov April 1 2018 08: 36
      0
      Quote: Egorovich
      Taliban fight only in Afghanistan

      But they look with interest towards the former Soviet Central Asian republics.
  7. izya top
    izya top 31 March 2018 19: 11
    +3
    Yankees unambiguously for igilovtsev am
    1. poquello
      poquello 31 March 2018 19: 23
      0
      Quote: iza top
      Yankees unambiguously for igilovtsev am

      speak peace talks, creak like a Thai souvenir frog but intentions for a peaceful settlement signed
  8. Zubr
    Zubr 31 March 2018 19: 14
    +1
    Well then .. smile Enemy of my enemy, my friend .. smile How would they in the park did not exhaust each other at all ....
  9. Masya masya
    Masya masya 31 March 2018 19: 23
    +7
    redistribution of property, drug plantations were not divided ... let them devour each other ...
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat April 1 2018 00: 11
      +1
      Definitely, some others decided to squeeze a couple of thousand squares under the poppy. A year old, they will clouding each other, and they will find common ground in the north of the country ... and in the north we have them ...
  10. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 31 March 2018 19: 27
    0
    the enemy of my enemy (also my enemy) declared war
  11. Vadim851
    Vadim851 31 March 2018 19: 33
    0
    Well, let the terrorists fight the terrorists, it will become less.
  12. mavrus
    mavrus 31 March 2018 19: 36
    0
    East is a delicate matter...
  13. karish
    karish 31 March 2018 19: 40
    0
    Quote: Herkulesich
    No read lol and for you black is written on the keyboard lol

    the same thing is written on the fence. grandma came up, touched --- bitch laughing
  14. Dormidont
    Dormidont 31 March 2018 19: 42
    0
    All right. In particular, to discredit Islam, our Western and Middle Eastern partners created igil
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 31 March 2018 20: 18
      0
      Quote: Dormidont
      All right. In particular, to discredit Islam, our Western and Middle Eastern partners created igil

      Not only ISIS, but the rest of the scum is fed from the hands of the SGA! Creating hotspots is their favorite fun and the only way out of their astronomical Debt (Collapse)!
  15. Hiller
    Hiller 31 March 2018 20: 08
    0
    two sugars - manure and radish
  16. rpuropuu
    rpuropuu 31 March 2018 20: 41
    +2
    Quote: Herkulesich
    Girls got into a fight over Afghan heroin, they wanted to throw us on drugs! !! wassat

    Under Taliban, heroin production was 40 times less what
    They write that they did it to raise the price for it. For me, it’s better to get 1 ton of expensive opium under the Taliban than 40 ton cheap for Igil recourse Fewer people would die because of this. request
  17. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 31 March 2018 20: 45
    0
    That's for sure - e * ala toad viper ...
  18. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 31 March 2018 21: 21
    +1
    It seems that for American barbarians from ISIS, the evening ceases to be languid. Not so long ago, some Taliban warlords were already leaning in favor of teaming with the Ishilovites. Now all the work of mattresses on the development of a new hybrid of a terrorist organization, thanks to fans of cutting their heads, was covered with a copper basin.
  19. Weyland
    Weyland 31 March 2018 21: 27
    0
    So let's drink drinks for a just and holy war of the Taliban with ISIS - and let them kill each other as much as possible! good
  20. Sergey Enoktaev
    Sergey Enoktaev 31 March 2018 21: 46
    0
    It’s long time ago. It’s true it’s not clear by what priority they began to trust the Western world more. Indeed, in the Russian-speaking world they have much more in common. Just a paradox. At first glance. But. We must realize it ourselves. Like Assad.
    1. Sergey Enoktaev
      Sergey Enoktaev 31 March 2018 21: 57
      0
      Well, yes, this is our blind government. One doesn’t see, then the other doesn’t notice. By what criteria are they recruited there. They live there completely, with a separate life. I completely delve into all this.
  21. Guillon
    Guillon 31 March 2018 23: 25
    0
    Is the US going to 'fight' with ISIS from the wrong hands? At the same time financing both those and others! wassat Oh well ! soldier
  22. Heterocapsa
    Heterocapsa April 1 2018 00: 07
    0
    just as the British used to fill their pockets from the trade in Indian opium in China, so the United States is now filling the treasury with Afghan drugs. They just control the private traders they put in there so that they don’t light up if something happens. Great business. Colossal profit.
  23. doka
    doka April 1 2018 00: 26
    0
    Well, it started, we need to help the lads, in the warehouses of the old equipment they have enough and the T-55 will
  24. Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx April 1 2018 02: 57
    0
    All fighters for religion are united by one single feature. They are stupid, all without exception.
    The first reason their ideology is fundamentally delusional, but since they are stupid for this I do not criticize.
    The second, fighting, in principle, for the same thing, they manage to fight among themselves.
    They are beaten by everyone, everyone who has something to beat, the whole world is “infidels” faithful but puppets of infidels, etc. They still manage to increase the split between themselves. In short, this is a monologue that you are not working like, the conclusion is one, they are just dumb .
    1. sergeyezhov
      sergeyezhov April 1 2018 08: 39
      0
      Quote: Lek3338
      The second, fighting, in principle, for the same thing, they manage to fight among themselves.

      Does the conflict between Khrushchov and Maojedun not bother you? Or between Stalin and Tito?
  25. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 1 2018 02: 59
    +1
    Along the way, they had previously fought with each other ... request
  26. gorenina91
    gorenina91 April 1 2018 03: 22
    0
    - The Taliban will be abruptly Kurds ... -And the Taliban will not obey the "opinion" of the Americans ... -Is ISIS against the Taliban has little chance of winning ...
  27. 72jora72
    72jora72 April 1 2018 04: 03
    0
    Quote: mvg
    15 years and 50 thousand people were not enough for you?
    What kind of numbers do you have? From the 100500 series? Are you by any chance not one of those who counted 500 corpses in Kemerovo?
  28. cedar
    cedar April 1 2018 06: 11
    +1
    Like it or not, but Americans and Igilovites for one. The states fostered, trained and armed the Ishilovites in the BV, they transferred them to Afghanistan to achieve their geopolitical goals.
    See the root. The Taliban declared war not only on the Ishilovites, but also the United States.
    Stripes in Afghanistan are not waiting for the best of times ...
    1. ventel
      ventel April 1 2018 09: 14
      0
      I am always surprised by people who believe the speculations of journalists and their fantasies. With such confidence, I can also say that the USSR / Russia organized leftist movements in Latin America and the Middle East, which are also considered terrorist. And prove to me that I'm wrong.
  29. nafanal
    nafanal April 1 2018 06: 40
    0
    The case is quite good. It would be necessary to support. Put them MANPADS. Let them frolic
  30. tech3030
    tech3030 April 1 2018 08: 06
    +1
    Bee war with honey !?
  31. jonny64
    jonny64 April 1 2018 13: 26
    0
    The enemy of my enemy is mine ...?!
  32. viktor.
    viktor. April 1 2018 15: 58
    0
    [/ b] set against each other, kills theologians and discredits the holy religion of Islam before the world [b] long before they reached, or who prompted?
  33. artifact
    artifact April 1 2018 16: 18
    0
    they will accuse us again, they say, Russian hakkeryyyyyy.
    what the hell does this world still exist !?
  34. Romanenko
    Romanenko April 1 2018 19: 31
    0
    This is how you read the news and it begins to seem that the Taliban are indeed students (this word is translated in the third approximation), however, despite their statements about which ISIS are bad, one should not forget which Taliban are “good”.
    It seems like pure PR, nothing more.
    And what is there to doubt in the Taliban - look at these lovely spiritualized faces, at these people who are eager to learn all the sacraments of teaching ...
    They directly starred, with Kalashnikov's “textbooks” in their hands.
  35. Valery Saitov
    Valery Saitov April 6 2018 08: 35
    0
    It’s time to start helping the Taliban, to choose the least of two evils. And it will be useful in the fight against ISIS.
  36. poquello
    poquello 30 June 2018 11: 00
    0
    APASUS,
    Quote: APASUS
    We have been taken away property in the USA, removed our flags from buildings, impose sanctions on simply ridiculous pretexts, violate the fundamental principles of contracts, and you all believe in relationships.

    these are US actions, Russia has the right to retaliatory steps, what do you want to hear? we have a lot of agreements with the USA and it cannot be otherwise (well, except perhaps with the Georgians), and IMHO the World Cup’s right decision is to be held instead of the competition of political rapists