Military Review

SBU accused the UOC of the Moscow Patriarchate of "terrorist activity"

97
The SBU launched an investigation against the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate (UOC-MP) because of "support for the militia" and "anti-Ukrainian activities," informs Vneshno news agency referring to statements by SBU colonels Valery Udovichenko and Yulia Laputina.


SBU accused the UOC of the Moscow Patriarchate of "terrorist activity"


According to them, the investigation is going on throughout the country. In the Security Service of Ukraine, representatives of the clergy allegedly participate in “terrorist activities”, while Russian special services use the churches of the UOC-MP for the “intelligence operation”.

Special services conduct scientific examinations, collect evidence and interview witnesses, and also examine church literature "for the presence of manipulative texts
- declared Laputina.

Representatives of the SBU gave examples of "anti-Ukrainian activities" - so, according to them, in 2014, the monks of the Holy Dormition Svyatogorsk Lavra allegedly placed on the back of the icon of the Mother of God "a new prayer of pro-Russian content and distributed it on Easter holidays." In addition, according to the security services, in the same year, the militia in Slavyansk received asylum in one of the churches of the UOC-MP.

Recently, property and representatives of the UOC-MP were repeatedly attacked. In particular, unknown persons set fire to the chapels and churches of the UOC-MP, robbed and destroyed them, RIA reports News
Photos used:
https://knk.media/
97 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. solzh
    solzh 31 March 2018 16: 38
    +6
    And ... how are they still holding the earth ...
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 31 March 2018 16: 39
      +6
      Sodom and Gomorrah did not teach the Sumerians anything ...
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 31 March 2018 16: 48
        +12
        Our Orthodox faith is what infuriates them and drives them into the lobster ..
        They gnaw her and sprinkle mud! What the hell .. hehe In Yugoslavia I remember all the churches were immediately destroyed and the monks were exterminated ..

        We’ll restore everything, give us time ..
        1. Hire
          Hire 31 March 2018 16: 55
          +10
          Again persecution of the Church. Hang on, brothers and sisters! The Lord will not leave you.
          1. Beltasir matyagu
            Beltasir matyagu 31 March 2018 17: 00
            +13
            Are you aware that maydauns are Gentiles? Vatican Greek Catholics (thanks to Poland and the Jesuits) or Judaism. Here is the answer to your unspoken question.
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K 31 March 2018 17: 29
              +16
              Quote: Beltasir Matyagu
              ... Here is the answer to your unspoken question ...

              Everything is much simpler.
              Quasistran 404 was plundered.
              The only unarmored property is the property of the UOC of the Moscow Patriarchate.
              1. g1v2
                g1v2 31 March 2018 18: 33
                +14
                Still easier. The Ukrainian elites urgently need to break all ties of their people with Russia. And the main connections are language, faith and victory in the Second World War. Hence the systematic destruction of these ties. Not out of spite. They usually hit the drum. And they speak Russian to each other and they can sing Victory Day. They simply have no other choice but to go into extreme nationalism. Because otherwise they cannot be explained - why it was all, starting with independence. request
                1. venik
                  venik 31 March 2018 19: 54
                  +3
                  Quote: g1v2
                  Still easier. The Ukrainian elites urgently need to break all ties of their people with Russia. And the main connections are language, faith and victory in the Second World War. Hence the systematic destruction of these ties. Not out of spite. They usually hit the drum.

                  ========
                  Bravo! Very clear analysis! You can only add - with their mediocre economic and political policies, as well as rampant theft - they are increasingly turning people against themselves! And here is the best way proven over the centuries - "external enemy"!
                  And here also the Western "elites" push + "the genie of" militant Nazism "blood" released from the bottle requires .......
              2. moskowit
                moskowit April 1 2018 12: 57
                +1
                Your confidence admires, Andrey Yuryevich. hi soldier
                But I am in doubt ... Have you seen the eyes of the current church leader?
                "I would not trust him ..." (from the movie "Pokrovsky Gate")
                1. Andrey K
                  Andrey K April 1 2018 14: 46
                  +7
                  Quote: moskowit
                  ... Have you seen the eyes of the current church leader? ...

                  Are you about the anathema of Filaret?
                  Where did you gaze at him closely?
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 31 March 2018 17: 35
          +21
          Quote: MIKHAN
          What the hell .. hehe In Yugoslavia I remember all the churches were immediately destroyed and the monks were exterminated ..

          In a cafe in Zurich, a former NATO pilot boasted about how he bombed the Balkans in 1999, for which he was beaten by a Serb
          According to eyewitnesses, outside the helm of the aircraft, the man did not look so menacing.

          Rade Stancic, a Serbian citizen who was in Switzerland at work - organizing concerts of Serbian pop divas in Europe - sat quietly with a friend in a cafe in Zurich and did not touch anyone. Two men were located not far from them, one of them waving his fists told how during the war in the Balkans in 1999 he personally compared the Serbian cities with the earth, watching the dying, as he put it, “*** Serbs” wriggling under the rubble.

          Stancic could not bear this, which is understandable ... The man got up, went to the boastful, who turned out to be an Englishman, and clarified what kind of war this was specifically about.

          "Yes, yes. I am talking about these Balkan wars," the pilot grinned and added to his head with a mockery: I remember these Serbs well. "

          According to eyewitnesses, Stancic worked out several hooks for the Englishman as a pear, and then charged him with an ashtray in his face. Apparently, shooting women and children from an airplane is much easier than talking on equal terms. When a special training NATO member moaned like a kitten, he was left alone.

          “Every time you look in the mirror,” Stancic said after the lesson, “you will remember all the Serbs and the innocent children you killed even more clearly.” Both the public and the police were not very interested in this case.

          The NATO pilot lying around in a hospital bed aroused much less sympathy for everyone than a fair Serb, who went about his business after a small excess.
          1. Conrad
            Conrad April 1 2018 22: 05
            0
            Nice information! It would be nice to create a service that would not deliberately, but purposefully deal with such things !!!
        3. Bo Yari
          Bo Yari 31 March 2018 17: 42
          +3
          More persecution of the church than the NKVD-KGB was not and will not be.
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 31 March 2018 19: 35
            +2
            The church did not drive the NKVD, but the people on the ground. winked And if the parishes did not want to help the starving Volga region, then their values ​​earned by overwork were requisitioned. It was such a time.
            1. poquello
              poquello 31 March 2018 20: 14
              +2
              Quote: siberalt
              The church did not drive the NKVD, but the people on the ground.

              which interesting people were on the ground, planted bullets in the back of his head for a time
              1. siberalt
                siberalt 31 March 2018 22: 31
                +1
                On the ground were the peasants and their Soviets. At the same time, there were more decent among the priests and no one touched them. My ancestors were villagers, my grandfather went through the First World War, and my father met the revolution at the age of 14, graduating from the Central School of Church and Parish School, and then the Institute of Water Transport Engineers. So, I know something from direct sources, and not just from school textbooks and the university course of scientific communism. hi
                1. poquello
                  poquello April 1 2018 02: 31
                  +2
                  Quote: siberalt
                  from direct sources, and not just from school textbooks and the university course of scientific communism. hi

                  So what? Everyone lies? both those and these? I wrote already, in the underground of the church, servants who were shot in the back of the head found bones where they were more directly
                2. ghby
                  ghby April 1 2018 16: 19
                  +1
                  Quote: siberalt
                  On the ground were the peasants and their Soviets. At the same time, there were more decent among the priests and no one touched them.

                  My grandfather, during the War he lived with his grandfather at the church and no one touched them.
            2. gsev
              gsev April 1 2018 01: 00
              +2
              He was in the Dmitrov Museum. Before the revolution, the church leader doubted the sincerity of the faith of his subordinate and did not approve of his promotion. After the revolution, this man headed the department of anti-church propaganda in the local committee of the CPSU. That is, the struggle was between them. According to legend, the persecutor committed suicide, the persecuted was shot much later. But the documents exhibited show that the persecuted priest enjoyed more respect and influence in the eyes of the population than the VKPb cell. His parishioners provided him voluntarily richer than the Soviet state of Soviet servants. I think in Ukraine the church is the only independent force that SBUshniki cannot yet crush. For them she with
            3. Andrey K
              Andrey K April 1 2018 17: 36
              +7
              Quote: siberalt
              ... The church did not drive the NKVD, but the people on the ground. winked And if the parishes did not want to help the starving Volga region, then their values ​​earned by overwork were requisitioned. It was such a time ...

              Oleg hi
              Do not mix everything in a heap. I am from this very Volga region.
              This very people, together with the clergymen, was released into the spray - in the thousands, tens of thousands.
              Do not sculpt please. NKVD, the people on the ground, starving the Volga ...
              Yes, no one would starve if the last crumbs of the food detachment would not be sent to the throne!
              What are you talking about! My great-grandfather, in the eyes of six children face to the ground, the gate to him and the horse detachment at the gate! In front of the children !!!
              Of the six, my grandmother survived. The rest, after this visit of the parts of the valiant Samar-Ulyanovsk Iron Division, died of starvation. My aunt took my grandmother to me, I still found her. Holy woman.
              People did time. In this case, the lumpen, loafers raised a red flag and mending outright robbery. In our villages there was no NKVD. Peasants who had at least something in the sheds were put on knives - those who had been taring at taverns before.
              In my ancestral home, after the murder of my great-grandfather, they placed a school. She existed until the end of the 70s.
              1. The comment was deleted.
                1. The comment was deleted.
          2. venik
            venik 31 March 2018 19: 56
            +3
            Quote: Bo Yari
            More persecution of the church than the NKVD-KGB was not and will not be.

            ========
            We will see! "Svidomo patriots" seems to "surpass" try ....
            1. gsev
              gsev April 1 2018 01: 06
              0
              And the SBU is more humane than the NKVD. People are crippled openly. The church is oppressed more impudently than the KGB in the 70s or 80s. In the 70s, the priest was repressed in the village of Vinogradovo, as foreign voices reported about it, but the local communists did not boast about it.
          3. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 1 2018 10: 09
            +1
            Quote: Bo Yari
            More persecution of the church than the NKVD-KGB was not and will not be.

            I didn’t want to answer you, and yet I couldn’t stand it .. (inner voice whispers, be silent MIKHAN, don’t get enough ..)))) angry
            In the structures of the Cheka and in the subsequent NKVD, a large percentage were "comrades" who were precisely engaged in the liquidation of everything and everything that was connected with the Orthodox faith! Our people were preparing for the implementation of the "world revolution", as Trotsky used to say: "Russia is firewood for the world revolution .."
            Stalin before the war and during the time, carried out a mass cleansing of these structures, he understood what it would lead to if they weren’t stopped .. And when the Germans stood near the “Moscow gates”, he allowed the icon of the patroness of Russia “Mother of God” to fly around Moscow .. (After all, he studied at the seminary and he still had faith ..) And then he allowed divine services and the monks were released from the camps (who survived) .. And Stalin’s first toast was after the Victory "For the Russian people, for his faith and patience ..! "
            Now, of course, they stumble me, but I will be silent and only moan and grit my teeth ..
            1. moskowit
              moskowit April 1 2018 13: 12
              +2
              Nobody will kick you. Calm down ....
              I bring a fact from my life. I was born shortly before the death of the Leader. My father, being a major and a communist, served in Germany. By birth, in the 1953 year, I was freely and calmly baptized with all the attributes and witnesses who are in the rite ... My elder sister, the 1947 of the year of birth, accepted the sacrament of baptism earlier and also officially ... But our brother, born in the 1958 year, was deprived this sacrament, since there was nowhere to baptize him. Adored by the traitors and various real enemies of the People, Nikita Khrushchev, the church restored by Stalin, was cast into the "tartarara"
      2. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 31 March 2018 16: 51
        +2
        The struggle for souls, and first of all for the wallets of believers ....
        1. 210ox
          210ox 31 March 2018 16: 57
          +9
          For wallets?! Yes, unfortunately there are money-grubbers in the Orthodox Church .. But here it’s completely different. It is necessary to completely erase the Russian Spirit in vna .... I am surprised and delighted, but it is delighted how our clergymen serve under such conditions ..
          Quote: Greg Miller
          The struggle for souls, and first of all for the wallets of believers ....
          1. Greg Miller
            Greg Miller 31 March 2018 17: 13
            +4
            Knowing how the current Orthodox Church includes Patriarch Kirill, under whose leadership the Smolensk Diocese in the 90s unloaded vodka and cigarettes in Smolensk continuously in 3 (!) Shifts (for which he was called Metropolitan Kurilka in Smolenka), I came to the conclusion that the current priests to save the "Russian spirit" has absolutely nothing to do ... They are only interested in money ....
            1. 210ox
              210ox 31 March 2018 17: 25
              +9
              What kind of Smolensk are you talking about? I myself am from the glorious ancient city of Hero. I lived there for fifty years .. And only the last seven years I moved to the Kuban. And I know that Cyril is respected in the Smolensk region, and some people certainly come across ... Not I’ll poke my finger. Do not disgrace the flag of Soviet Belarus.
              Quote: Greg Miller
              Knowing how the current Orthodox Church includes Patriarch Kirill, under whose leadership the Smolensk Diocese in the 90s unloaded vodka and cigarettes in Smolensk continuously in 3 (!) Shifts (for which he was called Metropolitan Kurilka in Smolenka), I came to the conclusion that the current priests to save the "Russian spirit" has absolutely nothing to do ... They are only interested in money ....
              1. Greg Miller
                Greg Miller 31 March 2018 17: 28
                +4
                And I, too, from Smolensk, only 3 years as I live in Belarus ... And something I did not observe much respect for the Smoking-room in Smole ....
                1. 210ox
                  210ox 31 March 2018 17: 40
                  +6
                  Well, that’s right. Everyone has their own circle of contacts .. Only such neglect speaks of what kind of circle you have. I, apart from the hunchbacked and ebony, also respect our leaders for respecting at least their post. Not to mention the spiritual mentors. you don’t know in the church, and just collect all the negativity towards it.
                  Quote: Greg Miller
                  And I, too, from Smolensk, only 3 years as I live in Belarus ... And something I did not observe much respect for the Smoking-room in Smole ....
            2. Vadivak
              Vadivak 31 March 2018 17: 47
              +5
              Quote: Greg Miller
              I came to the conclusion that there is absolutely nothing to do with the current priests until the "Russian spirit" is preserved ..

              You just don’t know our priests


            3. Terenin
              Terenin 31 March 2018 18: 28
              +5
              Quote: Greg Miller
              Knowing how the current Orthodox Church including Patriarch Kirill,

              You understand that in this case we are not talking about some indecent actions of certain clergy (I do not exclude that there are problems there), we are talking about a targeted attack on the Moscow Party Patriarchate as an institution of the “Russian world”, and you play along with it to say the least ...
            4. Warrior-80
              Warrior-80 31 March 2018 19: 24
              +3
              Having read the title of the topic, I already knew that all sorts of statements would be made that defame the church, people without conscience. Yes, the church is not without sin, people work there, but we don’t judge the heroism of the people in the Second World War by Vlasov, and these individuals are judged on individual occasions, provocateurs like and with cherries
            5. gsev
              gsev April 1 2018 01: 15
              +1
              The Russian church survived both the tsars and the Bolsheviks and liberals. I think it will survive both Putin and the SBU and all Russophobes from the State Department. This is a continuous tradition of Russian culture almost from the time of its written history. So it’s harmful to fight with faith to politicians, you’ll be disgraced for centuries and lose. The Church, like all of us, is striving to become wealthier, but it also gives its people help in maintaining unity, morality and righteousness, and helps to stay on the right track.
          2. Alex-a832
            Alex-a832 31 March 2018 17: 33
            +3
            Quote: 210ox
            .. But here it’s completely different. It is necessary to completely etch the Russian Spirit in vna ....

            Yes, it’s completely different. From time immemorial, Europe has been using Catholicism for expansion. For the destruction of national cultures, assimilation. But with regard to Ukraine, the Vatican cannot act openly - it has cold neutrality with the Russian Orthodox Church. Therefore, they act through the Nazis and nationalists, supplanting Orthodoxy for generations, so that you can then enter the "wild" territory with the approval of the official authorities. I don’t think that the West and the Vatican intend to seriously gain a foothold there, since a centuries-old history has crushed this territory, where there was neither Ukraine nor Catholic domination. Rather, they want to get a marginal society that is not able to get over to the historical Motherland at the hour of "X", which the West has dreamed of and is dreaming of. They will definitely not be turned into allies, only into bargaining chips, like the Poles in WWII, but rather even worse - like cattle for slaughter and slavery.
            1. poquello
              poquello 31 March 2018 20: 23
              +1
              Quote: Alex-a832
              Yes, it’s completely different. From time immemorial, Europe has been using Catholicism for expansion.

              IMHO even wider, bourgeoisie are struggling with dissent and freedom of speech, and dill their diligent student experimenters, Asange called make-bond a complete fool - he was cut off by the Internet and communication, who are not trying to put pressure on him, and dill is an extreme manifestation of the bourgeois trend
            2. Warrior-80
              Warrior-80 31 March 2018 20: 26
              0
              I don’t think the Vatican has any power, it even put up with the equal rights of gays, their whole religion grows into a farce, the basic tenets will counter the idiologies of Western civilization. Russia, the third Rome, as ever when relevant, we were left alone with Christian values
          3. Bo Yari
            Bo Yari 31 March 2018 17: 43
            +1
            not money-grubbers come to church, but the system is built on this.
        2. Beltasir matyagu
          Beltasir matyagu 31 March 2018 17: 02
          +3
          For souls mainly. Remember the formula "Russian means Orthodox"? This is not an empty phrase. And in Russia it is no accident in social networks that Sokolovskys (Saibabtalovs) peck at the Russian Orthodox Church with no interest. Yes, and in the Russian Orthodox Church gathered spies. That's why they introduce Catholic Christmas in 404 and so on. Ukrainians, no matter how vertically, are still ethnic Russians. So you need to redo it. Pour urine into their heads (t9 correctly corrected the word mov), "Ukrainian principalities", Sumerians and a Papua-Guinean level education with a bunch of Nazi propaganda with a manger and a gesheft. Shekels by the river. You can cut babies on dogs, sell organs from the Donbas, build synagogues and supermarkets with crosses for cattle.
          1. tchoni
            tchoni 31 March 2018 17: 14
            0
            Quote: Beltasir Matyagu
            For souls mainly. Remember the formula "Russian means Orthodox"? This is not an empty phrase. And in Russia it is no accident in social networks that Sokolovskys (Saibabtalovs) peck at the Russian Orthodox Church with no interest. Yes, and in the Russian Orthodox Church gathered spies. That's why they introduce Catholic Christmas in 404 and so on. Ukrainians, no matter how vertically, are still ethnic Russians. So you need to redo it. Pour urine into their heads (t9 correctly corrected the word mov), "Ukrainian principalities", Sumerians and a Papua-Guinean level education with a bunch of Nazi propaganda with a manger and a gesheft. Shekels by the river. You can cut babies on dogs, sell organs from the Donbas, build synagogues and supermarkets with crosses for cattle.

            They did everything there long ago. Five years and the “active citizens” will be those that the union no longer remembers
            1. Beltasir matyagu
              Beltasir matyagu 31 March 2018 17: 16
              0
              You just have to do the same with them, but vice versa. Fight fire with fire
        3. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov April 1 2018 13: 35
          0
          Quote: Greg Miller
          The struggle for souls, and first of all for the wallets of believers ....

          Well, yes of course .. We know these "fighters" of yours .. Look into their eyes .. hehe
    2. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 31 March 2018 17: 23
      +1
      Orthodoxy is no longer for Uraina, they already have soy faith, the faith of fascism and hatred of their blood brothers
      I just think how the people of Russia will come to terms with it, all the same, they lived hand in hand for so many years
      So I want to say, come to your senses, they are pushing you to kill each other ..
  2. Masya masya
    Masya masya 31 March 2018 16: 41
    +9
    examine church literature "for the presence of manipulative texts

    Well, yes ... "do not kill, do not steal" - this is precisely a manipulative text that harms hohlostoy ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 31 March 2018 16: 50
      +3
      The SBU played too much, on this it breaks its teeth, but troubles can do a lot.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 31 March 2018 16: 59
      +6
      Marina, good afternoon. I hope, I really hope that the service of the Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate in Ukraine will continue .. It is very difficult to serve there ...
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 31 March 2018 17: 04
      +4
      Quote: Masya Masya

      Well, yes ... "do not kill, do not steal" - this is precisely a manipulative text that harms hohlostoy ...

      Orthodoxy, first of all, denies all sorts of distortions, puts family values ​​at the forefront.
      and they went the other way. heyparades gender became more valuable to them than anything else that is valuable to us Orthodox
  3. askort154
    askort154 31 March 2018 16: 45
    +1
    Full tryndets ukro-aneobam. They are already beginning to share God. So he punishes you.
  4. svp67
    svp67 31 March 2018 16: 53
    +1
    Communists, Russian priests ... and this is clearly not the end ..
  5. mavrus
    mavrus 31 March 2018 16: 54
    +1
    And the Russian Orthodox Church supported the all-Ukrainian religious procession in 2016, which was presented in the Western media as the desire of the Orthodox to unite in spite of Russian aggression ... Another lump on the forehead, flirted before ... it’s clear “they give two for not beaten,” but how much can. When, finally, both our politicians and church hierarchs will understand what is impossible with the junta humanly. You can not deafly "sit" in defense and wait for another slap in the face.
    1. gsev
      gsev April 1 2018 01: 25
      +2
      And the Russian Orthodox Church was the only faith that was able to unite both Western and Eastern Ukrainians in one procession for peace in Ukraine. No other force in Ukraine can or does not want to unite together equal left-bank and western Ukrainians. Mao said there is a right thought, everything else will follow, everything will appear for victory.
  6. polpot
    polpot 31 March 2018 16: 54
    +1
    Here is the uro
  7. Lenivets2
    Lenivets2 31 March 2018 17: 05
    +1
    Quote: Thrall
    Sodom and Gomorrah taught nothing

    What do Sodom and Gomorrah have to do with the Sumerians? hi
    ps question to administrators: why did your buggy site display my answer to Thrall as a comment on the article?
    Why is Thrall's quote not complete?
    Are you going to modify your glitches?
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 31 March 2018 17: 11
      +5
      Quote: Lenivets2
      Quote: Thrall
      Sodom and Gomorrah taught nothing

      What do Sodom and Gomorrah have to do with the Sumerians? hi

      Modern Sumerians (diggers of the seas) are residents of a fabulous country called Pig-without-Sala, Don Pedro ibn Roshen now works as president.
      1. Lenivets2
        Lenivets2 31 March 2018 17: 14
        0
        The Sumerians were a fairly advanced civilization, much more developed than the "diggers of the seas."
        No need to compare them. hi
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 31 March 2018 19: 50
          +3
          No comments
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 17: 44
      +4
      Quote: Lenivets2
      question to administrators: why did your buggy site display my answer to Thrall as a comment on the article? Why is Thrall's quote not complete?

      These are not "site glitches." These are pure errors, ahem, the user.
      PS: If you want - write in a personal letter, I will explain in detail.
      1. Lenivets2
        Lenivets2 31 March 2018 17: 48
        0
        Trying to answer, I clicked on the quote icon for a specific user.
        Why did the answer become an article? hi
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 17: 52
          +4
          Quote: Lenivets2
          Trying to answer, I clicked on the quote icon for a specific user.
          Why did the answer become an article?

          Click “Reply” first (an empty window will open under the comment you are responding to), then “Quote”, and you will be happy (s) yes
          If at the moment you click "Quote" some part of the text you are responding to is highlighted, only the selected part of the text will get into the quote. Otherwise, the whole text.
          So the site works, it seems, everything is simple and understandable.
          PS: I’m not an admin once, if that request
          1. Lenivets2
            Lenivets2 31 March 2018 17: 53
            0
            Thank you for the info. hi
            Why is Thrall's quote not complete?
            Or is it my fault too?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 18: 07
              +4
              Quote: Lenivets2
              Why is Thrall's quote not complete?

              Quote: Golovan Jack
              If at the moment you click "Quote" some part of the text you are responding to is highlighted, only the selected part of the text will get into the quote. Otherwise, the whole text
              1. Lenivets2
                Lenivets2 31 March 2018 18: 08
                0
                I did not highlight anything.
    3. Tersky
      Tersky 31 March 2018 17: 46
      +5
      Quote: Lenivets2
      ps question to administrators: why did your buggy site display my answer to Thrall as a comment to become

      Learn how to use the options correctly. If something doesn’t work, ask your colleagues.
      Quote: Lenivets2
      Why is Thrall's quote not complete?

      Ask Thrall.
      Quote: Lenivets2
      Are you going to modify your glitches?

      As soon as you learn how to correctly formulate the question, it is necessary.
      1. Lenivets2
        Lenivets2 31 March 2018 17: 51
        0
        "learn to use the options correctly. If something fails, ask your colleagues."
        Here I ask: Trying to answer, I clicked on the quote icon for a specific user, why did the comment stick to the article?
        "Ask Thrall."
        What does it have to do with site glitches and incomplete quotes?
        "And you?"
        And you? hi
        Oh, we decided to edit the answer.
        "As soon as you learn how to correctly formulate the question, be sure."
        Well, I’ll edit it: try not to answer me, I didn’t ask you. hi
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 18: 09
          +4
          Quote: Lenivets2
          try not to answer me, I didn’t ask you

          good laughing good
          Quote: Lenivets2
          ps question to admins

          Taki and he, in particular laughing
          PS: There is such a feature - "User Profile". There is a group wink
          1. Lenivets2
            Lenivets2 31 March 2018 18: 10
            0
            Is he an admin? belay
            I also feel sorry for myself! laughing
          2. Lenivets2
            Lenivets2 31 March 2018 18: 19
            +1
            "PS: There is such a feature -" User profile. There is a Group "
            Did not notice. crying
            Well, this "respected" moderator, instead of answering, bent his fingers, and with a primitive and appropriate verbal trash about: "As soon as you learn to correctly formulate the question, be sure." ?
            And that's not counting other pearls. hi
            Maybe instead of sticking out his "steepness", you could just answer the questions ?!
            ps I’m not you, but the Terek Cossacks. laughing
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 18: 25
              +6
              Quote: Lenivets2
              Well, this "respected" moderator instead of answering his fingers bent ...

              1. The question is not for me, strictly speaking.
              2. We are all human people. For example, I can also fool a stupid user with a little nose over the clave. Purely for educational purposes.
              3. Your questions were at least fuzzy. To which they pointed out to you, IMHO, quite rightly.
              Each good error description should contain exactly three things:

              1. What steps led to the error.
              2. What did you expect to see.
              3. What did you actually see


              I always give this link to my juzvery, and make me read.
              Helps a lot yes
              1. Lenivets2
                Lenivets2 31 March 2018 18: 31
                0
                And what does my question say in this connection: "Why is Thrall's quote not complete?" ?
                And my subsequent clarification that I did not select the text?
                Do you need to tackle the clave too? hi
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 18: 36
                  +5
                  Quote: Lenivets2
                  My subsequent clarification is that I did not select the text?

                  I do not know. If you were near - I would ask you to repeat this, um, feat.
                  See above for a description of the error. Correct.
                  And the excuse "I didn’t do anything, it’s itself ..." I hear at work N times every day.
                  There are no miracles. No rams (s) yes
                  1. Lenivets2
                    Lenivets2 31 March 2018 18: 43
                    0
                    About how!
                    Am I already rubbing excuses ?!
                    And you, dear, didn’t mix anything up?
                    Maybe you, to put it mildly, are not at all the same person to whom he began to justify himself and excuse himself.
                    I told the situation, and you portrayed an ostrich, hid your head in the sand and rubbed in on the fact that this cannot be because it can never happen.
                    And I agree, miracles do not happen, there are glitch sites.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 18: 51
                      +6
                      Quote: Lenivets2
                      About how!

                      Sha. We drove the gulk.
                      Quote: Lenivets2
                      Maybe you, to put it mildly, are not the right person ...

                      Definitely not the one.
                      All your questions - to the site administration. I ... do not belong to her, I have mine, ahem ... there are enough wizards at work laughing
                      PS: Learn to read carefully. I haven’t said anywhere that it’s you who "make excuses".
                      Cabbage soup hi
                      1. Lenivets2
                        Lenivets2 31 March 2018 18: 56
                        +1
                        "Shah. We drove the hooters."
                        And in Russian?
                        "Definitely not the one.
                        All your questions - to the site administration. I don’t belong to her, I have mine, ahem ... there are enough wizards at work "
                        And well, you can’t calm down and answer the questions asked by the admins?
                        "Cabbage soup-plum"
                        I like borsch more. hi
            2. Tersky
              Tersky 31 March 2018 18: 39
              +4
              Quote: Lenivets2
              Well, this "respected" moderator, instead of answering, bent his fingers, and with a primitive and appropriate verbal trash about: "As soon as you learn to correctly formulate the question, be sure." ?

              Before being rude, re-read your post to which I answered you,
              Quote: Lenivets2
              ps I’m not you, but the Terek Cossacks.

              And what about the Cossacks? My advice to you, go down to the bottom of the page, find the "Rules" and carefully re-read.
              1. The comment was deleted.
        2. Tersky
          Tersky 31 March 2018 18: 30
          +4
          Quote: Lenivets2
          try not to answer me, I didn’t ask you.

          belay Really?
          Quote: Lenivets2
          ps question to administrators: why did your buggy site display my answer to Thrall as a comment on the article?
          1. The comment was deleted.
          2. The comment was deleted.
          3. The comment was deleted.
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 31 March 2018 17: 05
    +3
    Satanists in power clearly! The church bothers them, of course! It is a pity that the priest dignity does not allow taking up arms in order to expel this demonic power !!!
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 31 March 2018 18: 46
      0
      There is no such prohibition. Orthodoxy is not pacifism. Peresvet confirmation of this
      1. poquello
        poquello 31 March 2018 20: 31
        0
        Quote: Dormidont
        There is no such prohibition. Orthodoxy is not pacifism. Peresvet confirmation of this

        with the blessing of Sergius, for he was some kind of monk there
  9. tchoni
    tchoni 31 March 2018 17: 11
    0
    What to say!? The junta on its territory is more effective than our special services ...
  10. Fedorov
    Fedorov 31 March 2018 17: 17
    +4
    It remains only to demolish the Lavra (even Hitler was afraid to touch it) and rats in the subway to be Putin's spies.
    Debi! Loids. sad
  11. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 31 March 2018 17: 33
    +7
    All these are consecutive steps to squeeze Ukraine out of the zone of a similar mentality (the Russian World). Language, Religion, Deserting territories, Revising history - this and much more - a chain of steps towards the goal - the destruction of Russia as a single force and an obstacle to the “other” world to dominate the planet.
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 31 March 2018 18: 44
      0
      Khazaria cannot exist otherwise
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 31 March 2018 18: 49
        +5
        Quote: Dormidont
        Khazaria cannot exist otherwise

        Can you explain?
  12. Oleg Kozlov
    Oleg Kozlov 31 March 2018 17: 42
    +3
    It’s not funny anymore ... They have been fighting a war against us for a long time, and we are all trying to surprise everyone with kindness, honesty, generosity ... Maybe enough? Somehow it all becomes like a huge stupidity ...
  13. Mihail55
    Mihail55 31 March 2018 17: 47
    +5

    It’s better not to say Gogol ...
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 31 March 2018 17: 56
      +5
      Quote: Michael55
      It’s better not to say Gogol

      That's for sure - not to say
      Sanctions of the Ukrainian Goskino spread to the legendary Taras Bulba. The film by Vladimir Bortko with the author’s text of Gogol and the former Minister of Culture, People’s Artist of Ukraine Bogdan Stupka in the title role, the new authorities of the country outlawed for “falsifying the national idea”.
      1. oldzek
        oldzek 31 March 2018 18: 40
        +1
        they don’t have any national idea! EVERYTHING ALIEN. SOLD OUT!
    2. Dormidont
      Dormidont 31 March 2018 18: 42
      0
      And only a few remember that this is not a beautiful fiction, but patristic prophecies put by Gogol into the mouth of Taras Bulba
  14. Overko
    Overko 31 March 2018 18: 31
    +1
    I do not support these idiots, but at the very center of the PC there is a stigma in the cannon. What are the persecutions of the Old Believers, the burning in log cabins, etc.
    The church is a political institution hiding behind the superstitions of people.
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 31 March 2018 18: 40
      +2
      Have you thought about suicide?
    2. gsev
      gsev April 1 2018 01: 36
      0
      Only faith and the church give strength to a person in a hopeless situation. In 1941, Stalin and the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks realized that the ideas of communism were not self-sufficient. What can the politician say to the mother whose children died? Nothing! True faith and the church will be able to support.
  15. Dormidont
    Dormidont 31 March 2018 18: 38
    +1
    Our Middle Eastern partners are splashing their poisonous hutspa
  16. midshipman
    midshipman 31 March 2018 19: 18
    +2
    It was hard to work in Lviv. In my subordination, there was a software named after V.I. Lenin. Produced elements of air defense systems. They did everything for Ukrainians: they trained personnel, created production facilities, and provided first-class equipment (there were even two hydroelectric stations). When I came on a business trip, I went into the central temple. Even then, on the streets there was a wary attitude towards the Russians. But the police quickly stopped everything. The city cemetery was very beautiful in Lviv, there were beautiful sculptures. It reminded us of our Alexander Nevsky Lavra. Everything went to dust.
  17. Weyland
    Weyland 31 March 2018 21: 52
    +1
    EMNIP, the false patriarch Denisenko consecrated a monument to Joseph Tukalsky about 10 years ago - this is the same Ukrainian metropolitan who convinced hetman Poroshenko (sorry, Doroshenko) to put Ukraine under the Sultan 3,5 centuries ago in order to fight the "cursed Moskal patriarchy". With the filing of this zealot of Orthodoxy, Ukraine paid tribute in blood (girls to harems, boys to janissaries). The present false patriarch will also sell his knowledges for his autocephalousness into slavery of the Orthodox wholesale and retail!
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 31 March 2018 22: 08
    0
    Do not forget the story!
    The most bloody wars in history were religious, there are no prisoners and forgives. The greatest stupidity of the Ukrainian government, although it is not clear to the ultimate goal of this government, maybe they are far beyond the level of contradictions?
  19. Eleazar bin Shaul
    Eleazar bin Shaul 31 March 2018 22: 27
    0
    Where did the word "patriarchy" come from? Moscow Patriarchate, but not patriarchy. Patriarchy is a social system in which men rule. There is also matriarchy, in which women rule. Write correctly, gentlemen, journalists.
  20. The comment was deleted.
  21. demo
    demo April 1 2018 08: 44
    +1
    Well, why?
    History says the following.
    The formation of Orthodoxy in Russia and in Russia never went smoothly and without excesses.
    The times of Patriarch Nikon, for example, led to a split.
    Thousands of believers took off from their homes and walked wherever they looked.
    Yes. This is not a bullet in the back of the head. But the path that they have overcome, for your information, was not a journey in a compartment carriage with breakfasts, lunches and dinners in a restaurant carriage.
    And if half of those who walked reached, then that was good.
    Is 50% a lot or a little?
    Compared with the persecution of the NKVD - 5-7% is a lot.
    But the million clergymen destroyed are also many.
    And what about the prohibitions on the study of the Bible by the general population and the prohibition by the Emperor of Bible society? Is this not persecution?
    And Ober Prosecutor of the Holy Synod - not a church person?
    How's that?
    The authorities and the Church have always been in a relationship of cautious trust and alertness to each other.
    For in power the goal is complete possession of the body, and in the Church - the soul.
    But sometimes one or the other began to interfere with each other's garden.
    Do not get into the wilds of the beginning of the 20th century and try, from the point of view of the layman sitting at the computer screen, to expose yourself as a guardian and defender of faith and human values.
    Because the defenders do not sit under unknown "nicknames".
    They with "open visor" under their real names act as human rights defenders.
    A good example for you and a guideline is Dr. Lisa, Kingdom of Heaven to her. Holy man. She did a lot and spoke little.
    And the last.
    Not doing your job.
    They did not take their role.
    "I do not believe!" Do not convincingly write and speak.
    Stamps interfere with a person. Life is multifaceted and it is not possible to fit everything into guidelines.
    Verstehen?