Military Review

T-90M "Breakthrough-3" will go to the troops this year.

121
First modernized Tanks T-90M "Breakthrough-3" will enter the troops this year, according to Interfax, citing a source familiar with the situation.


The execution of the contract is coming. Partially cars will be transferred to the Ministry of Defense this year.
- he said.

T-90M "Breakthrough-3" will go to the troops this year.


At the same time, the source clarified that part of the lot will be converted T-90 vehicles, and some will be absolutely new tanks.

In February, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov noted that the agency would receive 200 new tanks of various modifications annually.

Ambulance deliveries of the modernized T-90M of the Russian army were reported to the research and production corporation Uralvagonzavod (UVZ) at the end of January. The model is equipped with a new combat tower module, as well as a powerful weapon system and automated fire control system. The 125 mm tank gun is capable of using all modern types of ammunition.

The T-90M was created as part of the Breakthrough-3 development work and is an evolution of the T-90AM (Breakthrough-2) models and its export version, the T-90MS, first demonstrated in the 2011 year.
Photos used:
http://vestnik-rm.ru/news-4-21075.htm
121 comment
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. figwam
    figwam 31 March 2018 13: 30
    +28
    This is a good decision, before the advent of Almaty.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 31 March 2018 13: 31
      +11
      In Syria, I hope they will experience .. Let them look at Merkava hehe soldier
      They say there, they shoot ... They will show themselves! soldier
      1. family tree
        family tree 31 March 2018 13: 48
        +21
        Vitaliy! Cover it up !!! How long! And so already he burned all the carrots and took the Jews to the full. Calm down, otherwise Zhenya Psakina will be pressed that you are cheating on her with the sulamites, on tankslaughing
        1. Don
          Don 31 March 2018 14: 44
          +6
          Quote: perepilka
          Vitaliy! Cover it up !!! How long! And so already he burned all the carrots and took the Jews to the full. Calm down, otherwise Zhenya Psakina will be pressed that you are cheating on her with the sulamites, on tankslaughing

          It is useless to call such people to common sense. In their view, the world is black and white, where if you are not a friend, then you are an enemy.
          1. family tree
            family tree 31 March 2018 15: 11
            +8
            Quote: Donskoy
            It is useless to call such people to common sense. In their view, the world is black and white, where if you are not a friend, then you are an enemy.

            Not! It must be slowed down by love! With his aggressive invasive reciprocating actions, the IDF will bring the cosmic heights to space heights, nationality then, for mom belay
            Banter, we’re kidding sometimes, before this happened here when they did not pay attention to shoulder straps. Vitali here nickname FIG knows what, our political officer, it’s boring without him
          2. The comment was deleted.
          3. sabakina
            sabakina 31 March 2018 15: 54
            +5
            Dmirty, do you know that the world that you see is not quite the one that you see?
            1. family tree
              family tree 31 March 2018 16: 01
              +6
              Quote: sabakina
              Dmirty, do you know that the world that you see is not quite the one that you see?

              Pancake! What for I read it! Vyacheslav, you stop it! And then I have a trace of a cap in the brain gyrus curled and the thought began to think belay
      2. Falcond
        Falcond 31 March 2018 14: 20
        +2
        In Syria, I hope to experience ..

        It seems to me that they were modernized taking into account the Syrian experience, otherwise it is a waste of money
        1. Voyager
          Voyager 31 March 2018 14: 48
          +5
          It is unlikely that work on this modernization began many years before the events in Syria, if not ended before it
          1. Usher
            Usher April 8 2018 07: 33
            0
            How much can you modernize, is it really so difficult to hang a thermal imager, computer, dynamic protection, and bulwark. For twenty years they can’t cut it down.
      3. Maz
        Maz 31 March 2018 19: 00
        0
        Peysah, Israeli colleagues are moving away after being eaten up, roasted and doused, how can you !? Merkavas on caponiers stand, Gaza is guarded.
      4. aws4
        aws4 April 1 2018 01: 28
        0
        but do not be afraid that they burn these t90m ??? and if carrots turn out to be a cut above and better then what will you write ??? By the way, the carrot was sharpened precisely to mow the T72 and the T90 is its next modernization
        1. Usher
          Usher April 8 2018 07: 34
          0
          LOL, what are you talking about) Sharpened to mow the T-72. At that time, they did not even know about the T-72. What was going to merkava mow 105mm gun?
          1. aws4
            aws4 April 8 2018 13: 11
            0
            what are you saying ??? laughing Yes, it was with l7 that they were assembled and it was because of the Jewish BPS on t72 and they piled an additional plate on the VLD .. our sources write about it ...
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K 31 March 2018 13: 32
      +13
      Quote: figvam
      ... This is a good decision, before the advent of Almaty ...

      I agree, as an intermediate link, before moving to a new line of equipment - a very good solution. Moreover, some tangible capital investments are not required. The technology is proven.
      As I understand it, both the new ones that came off the assembly line, and the T-90 of the previous models that have undergone modernization — replacement of the filling with the new tower module will be delivered.
      1. Cutter
        Cutter 31 March 2018 13: 39
        +11
        The good news is that they showed the Kazan Tank on TV yesterday, and it seems like the cadet recruitment will be almost doubled. That's right, in the light of recent events and tensions, Russia has no other choice! Will be respected while strong! good
        1. Waterfowl
          Waterfowl 31 March 2018 16: 25
          0
          The good news is that they showed the Kazan Tank on TV yesterday, and it seems like the cadet recruitment will be almost doubled. That's right, in the light of recent events and tensions, Russia has no other choice! Will be respected while strong! good

          Give each tank a lieutenant!
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 31 March 2018 19: 07
          0
          Quote: Cutter
          The good news is that they showed the Kazan Tank on TV yesterday, and it seems like the cadet recruitment will be almost doubled. That's right, in the light of recent events and tensions, Russia has no other choice! Will be respected while strong! good

          All is well, beautiful marquise. First, the divisions were reorganized into brigades and fired half of the officers. Then sworn friends with their behavior forced the brains to turn on, and here you are again the reformation of the brigades into divisions and the increase in graduations in schools.
          Incidentally, the previous reformation and the current one are far from free. And each of them temporarily sharply reduces the combat readiness of the army.
      2. Dreamboat
        Dreamboat 31 March 2018 14: 11
        +3
        Quote: Andrey K
        Quote: figvam
        ... This is a good decision, before the advent of Almaty ...

        I agree, as an intermediate link, before moving to a new line of equipment - a very good solution. Moreover, some tangible capital investments are not required. The technology is proven.
        As I understand it, both the new ones that came off the assembly line, and the T-90 of the previous models that have undergone modernization — replacement of the filling with the new tower module will be delivered.

        So it is direct text and said.
        At the initial stage, T14 Armata is also supposed to be used in conjunction with modernized tanks of previous generations, as “commander” tanks, as massively zenith all tanks it will be insanely expensive.
        1. Dead duck
          Dead duck 31 March 2018 18: 54
          +3
          Quote: Dreamboat
          .to. massively zenith all tanks it will be insanely expensive

          In due time in MO and about T-90 they said that it’s expensive and will redo everything old ....
          and then right on the T-14.
          But along the way they thought better of it. request
          1. Dreamboat
            Dreamboat 31 March 2018 19: 48
            0
            Quote: Deadush
            Quote: Dreamboat
            .to. massively zenith all tanks it will be insanely expensive

            In due time in MO and about T-90 they said that it’s expensive and will redo everything old ....
            and then right on the T-14.
            But along the way they thought better of it. request

            I don’t remember that. T-90 in 90, if of course they bought a little, but then there was no money for anything. Nevertheless, 550 units are available for MO. And this, for comparison with such great military powers as Germany, there are already a lot of small Britain. This we are used to scale .... winked
            1. Igor Smirnov
              Igor Smirnov April 1 2018 23: 11
              0
              Dreamboat, yeah, only Challenger 2 of the “Little Britain” is somewhere 1 to 5 in favor of the British, or even more will be in relation to the T-90. Such disrespect for the probable enemy and absolutely straightforwardly straightforward understanding of the place of the obt in modern battle, where the main striking factor of the tank on the battlefield will not be the enemy’s tank, as well as the shift in emphasis in armored vehicles, I personally am very, at least surprising.
              1. Usher
                Usher April 8 2018 07: 35
                0
                STA? WHAT NAFIG 1 to 5. Have you overeated from Che?
    3. Hire
      Hire 31 March 2018 13: 35
      +8
      But what about Armata? When will she be in the troops? I understand that it’s expensive. But, after all, no more than human lives.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 31 March 2018 13: 40
        +3
        There will be only a few hundred, and then until 2025! It was necessary in 2011 to launch the T95 series! !!
      2. Andrey K
        Andrey K 31 March 2018 13: 41
        +16
        Quote: Hire
        ... But what about Armata? When will she be in the troops? I understand that it’s expensive. But, after all, no more than human lives ...

        And what about Armata?
        An experimental batch of "Armat" in the army is undergoing pilot combat operation.
      3. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 31 March 2018 13: 54
        +8
        Armata itself is slowly being supplied, but it has an emphasis on manufacturability, not mass.
        I think so far a maximum of one in the company, for the commander.
        1. Hire
          Hire 31 March 2018 13: 57
          +6
          Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
          I think so far a maximum of one in the company, for the commander.

          Generally, an interesting thought. Probably, such a solution would be reasonable from the point of view of combat stability.
        2. Dreamboat
          Dreamboat 31 March 2018 14: 16
          +12
          Quote: Sands Career General
          Armata itself is slowly being supplied, but it has an emphasis on manufacturability, not mass.
          I think so far a maximum of one in the company, for the commander.

          That's what they said, but for this the rest of the tanks of the "link" should be modernized by means of control and communications. Therefore, now news and modernization of the T-90, T-80 and T-72 tanks are going on, which many divoids perceive as a rejection of Armata lol
        3. venik
          venik 31 March 2018 16: 07
          +1
          Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
          I think so far a maximum of one in the company, for the commander.

          =========
          It is possible, but it is also possible that they will be equipped with elite units, primarily in the north-west and south-west directions.
          1. Waterfowl
            Waterfowl 31 March 2018 16: 51
            0
            Quote: Sands Career General
            I think so far a maximum of one in the company, for the commander.
            =========
            It is possible, but it is also possible that they will be equipped with elite units, primarily in the north-west and south-west directions.
            -------------------------------------
            There were comrades .... get Armata, and you are a platoon .... T-72 and a coffin in addition! )))))
            Elite part or elite comfor?
            1. Sands Careers General
              Sands Careers General 31 March 2018 17: 37
              +3
              There were comrades .... get Armata, and you are a platoon .... T-72 and a coffin in addition! )))))
              Elite part or elite comfor?


              Informally, I think it will be so, units with Armats will be considered elite until they fully equip troops, and this is a long process.
              It has always been that the latest weapons were issued the best, and the new tank is no exception.
              And the new T-72 and T-90 cannot be discounted and think that Armata will survive these tanks much longer in the event of a head-on battle.
            2. Dreamboat
              Dreamboat 31 March 2018 20: 02
              +1
              Quote: Waterfowl
              Quote: Sands Career General
              I think so far a maximum of one in the company, for the commander.
              =========
              It is possible, but it is also possible that they will be equipped with elite units, primarily in the north-west and south-west directions.
              -------------------------------------
              There were comrades .... get Armata, and you are a platoon .... T-72 and a coffin in addition! )))))
              Elite part or elite comfor?

              A company in 1 T-14 (Armata is still a platform) + 9 T-90 (preferably M) or T-72 (preferably B3) is much better than 10 T-72. Even 1 T-14 will allow you to better see the battlefield and coordinate the actions of the company !, and thus increase the chances of everyone surviving in battle.
              But of course it is better that T-14s are included in each platoon. Then the company will have 4 T-14 and 6 T-90 ....
              Although, if the "Terminators" go to the troops in the right quantities (it was assumed that one is to be platooned), the company will succeed: 1 T-14, 6 T-90 and 3 Terminators .... Generally, fire! soldier
      4. Ascetic
        Ascetic 31 March 2018 13: 56
        +12
        The series should go in 2020. An experimental-industrial party for the training of crews already goes to the troops and will finally enter the second half of this year.
        Staff ammunition for him in the development and testing, at the same time, the tank can be used as a reconnaissance vehicle, targeting and adjusting fire SAU, SAM and tanks T-90 from accompanying their tactical level. To do this, Armata has a medium-range circular Doppler radar, ultraviolet surveillance cameras with circular coverage and the Pterodactyl unmanned vehicle. That is, this is the first serial tank implementing the concept of future centric warfare.
        1. Alexander War
          Alexander War 31 March 2018 14: 19
          +5
          With a machine gun decided on the tower? from the beginning was 7.62 then 12.7mm
          1. venik
            venik 31 March 2018 16: 12
            +2
            Quote: Alexander War
            With a machine gun decided on the tower?

            =========
            Well, all-but-If ye then there should MSA "Kalina", having "open architecture" - that is, can mate with any types of weapons .... (at least on the T-90SM that was exactly what was announced).
        2. Alexander War
          Alexander War 31 March 2018 14: 26
          +2
          Ascetic hi Is there a video or article on the side screens that are on the T-90M Breakthrough 3 and put on the T-72B3 M?
        3. Usher
          Usher April 8 2018 07: 35
          0
          LOL What will you see in the ultraviolet cameras?
      5. family tree
        family tree 31 March 2018 14: 00
        +6
        Quote: Hire
        But what about Armata?

        Yes, along the way to bring more. I suppose on arms control, duplication. And the service is not seventy deuces at all. And the situation at the borders is bad, to be honest.
      6. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 31 March 2018 19: 14
        +2
        Quote: Hire
        But what about Armata? When will she be in the troops? I understand that it’s expensive. But, after all, no more than human lives.

        As for lives, the question is not entirely clear. If there are no tanks at all ... or when there are too few of them ... how then with losses?
        And instead of one Armata, you can buy three T-90M.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 31 March 2018 17: 11
      +2
      Quote: figvam
      This is a good decision, before the advent of Almaty.

      This good decision should result in the purchase of a good batch of the 90s ... then it will be a good decision. At the same time, one must understand that the T-72B3 is not much inferior to the 90th.
  2. Meckajiuhe
    Meckajiuhe 31 March 2018 13: 30
    +4
    200 tanks a year .... new. Not bad
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 31 March 2018 13: 39
      +5
      I’ll disappoint, 90 percent of them will be T72B3! Unfortunately!
      1. Cat
        Cat 31 March 2018 13: 45
        +4
        And T-72B3? We are talking about 200 T-90M "Breakthrough-3".
        It is sad only that it is not known whether KAZ Arena will be put on this series.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 31 March 2018 13: 47
          +9
          Quote: Kotischa
          We are talking about 200 T-90M "Breakthrough-3".

          The conversation is about "the department will receive 200 new tanks various modifications annually.". yes
        2. poquello
          poquello 31 March 2018 14: 09
          +3
          Quote: Kotischa
          And T-72B3? We are talking about 200 T-90M "Breakthrough-3".
          It is sad only that it is not known whether KAZ Arena will be put on this series.

          KAZ is not a panacea, why sad then? The ability to quickly install systems by specialization, and optionally Arena, is important. The tool sharpening angle depends on the material being processed.
        3. just exp
          just exp 31 March 2018 15: 42
          +3
          The T-90 will be in total only 90 pieces, with new ones, that is, made from scratch, there will be only 30 in general, the remaining 60 are the modernization of the old T-90A (although upgrading the old ones is also a necessary thing).
          as for me, so I would generally make a T-90AM model of steel for reinforcement, from malata I also took malachite and afghanite. and as for me, a tank would be better than an armata, but I’m silent about the rest of the tanks.
          1. poquello
            poquello 31 March 2018 19: 52
            +1
            Quote: just EXPL
            The T-90 will be in total only 90 pieces, with new ones, that is, made from scratch, there will be only 30 in general, the remaining 60 are the modernization of the old T-90A (although upgrading the old ones is also a necessary thing).
            as for me, so I would generally make a T-90AM model of steel for reinforcement, from malata I also took malachite and afghanite. and as for me, a tank would be better than an armata, but I’m silent about the rest of the tanks.

            for certain tasks it really will be better, but it can’t be upgraded to Armata, the platform is different
            1. just exp
              just exp April 1 2018 01: 54
              0
              and what tasks for the armature can not be performed by the T-90?
              he has the same gun, 2a82, the same ammunition. and it is worth considering that the dimensions of the armature are significantly larger, and the weight is the same.
              guess that with the same weight the hull (the tank is the armor) is thicker than the one who is smaller in size?
              they made new steel for reinforcement, it is 15% or stronger (if with the same thickness, or 15% lighter if the thickness is reduced to the same level of strength). And this compensates for the increased size.
              but if T-90 itself is made of this steel, then it will be even better protected.
              and KAZ and DZ from Armata can be added to the T-90.
              1. poquello
                poquello April 1 2018 03: 17
                +2
                Quote: just explo
                KAZ and DZ from Armata can also be added to the T-90.

                nizya, and a lot of things from the armature on t90 add nizya
                1. just exp
                  just exp April 1 2018 20: 21
                  +1
                  UVZ themselves said that it is possible.
                  on MS (for themselves there will be AM) they wrote that it is possible both Arena and Afghanistan, at the choice of the customer.
                  Malachite is simply DZ, but there will be additional work, but you can attach it.
                  1. poquello
                    poquello April 1 2018 23: 01
                    0
                    Quote: just EXPL
                    UVZ themselves said that it is possible.
                    on MS (for themselves there will be AM) they wrote that it is possible both Arena and Afghanistan, at the choice of the customer.
                    Malachite is simply DZ, but there will be additional work, but you can attach it.

                    ett you are not there, the arena and the BMP is

                    ETT is not from Almaty, it's just an arena
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 April 1 2018 23: 13
                      +1
                      Rather, it was set - as an experiment, it is very bad that this system is not in service - it is more effective than the intercepting ammunition of those on T 14 - since the firing sector is much larger and the efficiency of the damaging elements is higher.
                      1. poquello
                        poquello April 1 2018 23: 16
                        0
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        Rather, it was set - as an experiment, it is very bad that this system is not in service - it is more effective than the intercepting ammunition of those on T 14 - since the firing sector is much larger and the efficiency of the damaging elements is higher.

                        so on the arm the computer is much more sighted, this takes
                      2. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack April 1 2018 23: 21
                        +4
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        it is more effective than the intercepting ammunition of those on T 14

                        Vadim, I don’t care about you ...
                        Well, how do you, sorry, shpaku, know at least something about the effectiveness of KAZ Almaty?
                        I have friends who have worked on this topic ... but they are silent as Losers partisans in interrogation.
                        And here - look at you - Vadim already knows everything request
                        The CIA hasn’t abducted you there yet? The bearer of secret knowledge?
                      3. just exp
                        just exp April 1 2018 23: 41
                        0
                        so on the arm the computer is much more sighted, this takes

                        about how, and how long have the eyes appeared on the computer?
                        By the way, the computer is placed not only on Armata.
                        and by the way part two, the radar can also be put not only on armature.
                        By the way, part three, the trophy radar can also be set not only on merkava, although there is someone who says that they say it was designed for merkava and put it on another tank nizya.
                        Well, how do you, sorry, shpaku, know at least something about the effectiveness of KAZ Almaty?

                        Well, your acquaintances have a non-disclosure subscription, but where did you sign the non-reading open source subscription?
                        unfortunately, Afganit does not have 360 ​​degrees of work, so when there is a ATGM shot in the stern, the shooting of this ATGM will be decided by a turret extension.
                        and unfortunately, if you can do it with ATGM, then it won’t work out with BOPS (((((((
                        there the approach time is such that no tower has time to turn around.
                        google for details on Afghanite and the location of the KAZ mortars.
                        but KAZ Afghanistan itself is an order of magnitude more powerful than the Arena.
                        it works on BOPs, and it seems like work is already underway so that it can work on impact cores.
                        from the minuses, it seems like the upper hemisphere is protected only by electronic warfare. that is, RPGs from the roof no longer ...
                    2. just exp
                      just exp April 1 2018 23: 34
                      0
                      I know what the Arena is. and therefore, as if hinting at the possibility of installing another KAZ with the not quite Russian word Afganit.
      2. Chertt
        Chertt 31 March 2018 13: 46
        +6
        Quote: Herkulesich
        I’m disappointing that 90 percent of them will be T72B3!

        Greeting hi Do not disappoint, you exaggerated 90%. A hundred new tanks, this is also not very bad. Given the supply of other types of armored vehicles.
        1. Herculesic
          Herculesic 31 March 2018 14: 20
          +3
          However, the T90M will be a small series! Confirmed figure for up to 40 cars in 2 years! And T72 of different versions will be the basis of what the army will receive! And I welcome you hi hi
          1. just exp
            just exp 31 March 2018 16: 53
            0
            not 40, but 90, 30 new and 60 modern T-90A to AM *.
        2. Alexander War
          Alexander War 31 March 2018 14: 46
          +3
          Why we can’t normally put Hindus here on the forehead of the DZ tower
          1. Dead duck
            Dead duck 31 March 2018 18: 58
            +2
            Quote: Alexander War
            Why we can’t normally put Hindus here on the forehead of the DZ tower

            usually due to gunner’s sight and gunner’s sight request
            although it happens because of an unknown force laughing
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 31 March 2018 17: 12
        +3
        Quote: Herkulesich
        I’ll disappoint, 90 percent of them will be T72B3! Unfortunately!

        And why do you feel bad about 72 matches in the modification of the KB?
        1. Dead duck
          Dead duck 31 March 2018 21: 50
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Herkulesich
          I’ll disappoint, 90 percent of them will be T72B3! Unfortunately!

          And why do you feel bad about 72 matches in the modification of the KB?

          Everything is bad, everything is lost laughing
  3. skomfit
    skomfit 31 March 2018 13: 34
    +4
    The T-90 performed well in Syria. The worst nightmare for the Jewelin worship sect.
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 31 March 2018 13: 45
      +3
      Well, in Syria there was only the first version of this T90A tank! And then, far from everything on it was installed out of defense, what was planned to be installed! In particular, KAZ was completely absent.
      1. venik
        venik 31 March 2018 16: 16
        +2
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Well, in Syria there was only the first version of this T90A tank!

        ======
        Well, to be honest, then all the photos from Syria - there were just not the T-90A (this is a modified version!), But just the FIRST (T-90) !!
    2. Vadmir
      Vadmir 31 March 2018 14: 34
      +3
      In Syria, the previous generation ATGMs were used. The experience of fighting in Syria cannot be considered indicative. These are battles with poorly trained and poorly armed irregular units. In a battle with a serious and professional opponent, this experience will not work.
      1. saigon
        saigon April 1 2018 12: 16
        0
        Probably, however strange it sounds, however, the most experienced in the fight against a force similar to itself is the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        And what they are taught by advisers from Nata and Tan mind will not fit
  4. san4es
    san4es 31 March 2018 13: 42
    +11
    The T-90M was created as part of the Breakthrough 3 development project and is a development of the T-90AM models soldier
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 31 March 2018 13: 52
      +5
      Namesake hi T-90MS: Tests in Kuwait.
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 31 March 2018 13: 43
    +1
    And why did the T90MS Tagil project suddenly become “experimental?” It was created precisely as the main battle tank, to replace all versions of the T72! am
    1. san4es
      san4es 31 March 2018 13: 52
      +5
      Quote: Herkulesich
      And why did the T90MS Tagil project suddenly become “experimental?” It was created precisely as the main battle tank, to replace all versions of the T72! am

      hi ... and for export
      T-90MS is the latest version of the Russian T-90 main battle tank. It is also referred to as Tagil. This is a modernized version and has a number of improvements and improved operational capabilities compared to its predecessor. Tagil was first discovered in 2011. Offered for the Russian army and potential exporters soldier
  6. Alexander War
    Alexander War 31 March 2018 13: 44
    +2
    In February, Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov noted that the department will receive 200 new tanks of various modifications annually. 200 tanks of various modifications, I wonder how many of them are the Breakthrough 90 T-3M? And since the tank is excellent and it’s right to buy it until Armata !
  7. Alexander War
    Alexander War 31 March 2018 13: 47
    +7
    Exercises at the Ashuluk training ground lit up new items wink wink ZRPK "Shell-SM on the chassis KAMAZ-6560M
    and new radar
  8. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 31 March 2018 13: 49
    +3
    I never get tired of emphasizing that I welcome the modernization of our tanks, but where is the Russian KAZ? I think that this will greatly increase the survivability of our tanks, will allow us to carry out tasks more efficiently. I’m glad, of course, to this “Breakthrough”, because in the boxes of our tank units Yes, reliable fighting dinosaurs, but already outdated. Especially for the BMP-BTR. Soon on May 9, it will be interesting to compare the Armat’s tank configuration of the last parade with this ... or everything will also pass, and the experimental party will chase the troops and parades it do not care. For me, the fact is that the use of Russian KAZ in Syria has not been fixed. Where is it? After all, is it really needed, if anything, then the missiles will fly from both the strikers and the Apache, the infantry is throwing missiles unless from the navel. the path to the goal, cunning Ural armor is a standard, but there is a limit to everything.
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 31 March 2018 14: 00
      +6
      To put the KAZ on modernized tanks, it’s expensive to march, we believe in the Ministry of Defense on this side of the tower they covered DZ
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 31 March 2018 14: 21
        +4
        Well, this will significantly increase survivability. But KAZ, it’s clear that it’s expensive not to jump out of the real budget, but I have the idea that the tank’s defense means will pay off with more than saving the crew’s lives and the scale of their tasks on the battlefield. I’m not sure that we have it in a finished, highly efficient version. I remember these beautiful gilded fences, walked there and took a picture, Tverskaya, if I’m not mistaken. By the way, the service is on a tank platform, but not a tank. third tier, but the question is, if you hang on this DZ tank both on the rear side surface and on the aft of the tower and on the motorboat (with the provided air and temperature channels), then the tank will not be heavier? 15% is always there for mine trawls and front-line scarby in the form of additional BC, the more modernized engines, with a large horse squadron, so why not touch the tank’s body weight, the factory grilles are effective, but the DZ will be 361 degrees cooler!
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 31 March 2018 19: 33
          +1
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Well, this will significantly increase survivability. But KAZ, it’s clear that it’s expensive not to jump out of the real budget, but I have an idea that the tank’s defense means will pay off with more than saving the crew’s lives and the scale of their tasks on the battlefield.

          The best defense of the tank is trained crews and competent tactics, which means competent fathers and commanders.
          If someone will be substituted, gouging into the trash. At least T-55, even Armata. And no KAZ will save. Ammunition consumption per tank will simply increase slightly.
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt April 1 2018 04: 40
            0
            [quotesekeshfehervar] [The best defense of the tank is trained crews and competent tactics, which implies competent fathers and commanders. / quote] [quote] [/ quote] let's not be so categorical, let us leave our strengths and ambitions inside us, stop guys, let's get carried away with pure Soviet boxing, it hurts our Soviet boxing, don’t approach it when the Fritz went out to drink coffee and enjoy the views of Moscow. It was they who were cut off by Kolya Ampengaul’s crown kick, and Edik Raduardov, he was a skier, of course, but at that moment he was working from tar in short bursts .. I counted and aimed, the champion of the Moscow sports day took aim and hit .. Someone chewed a little more than ordinary Raduard, said some phrases, noticed the stocky machine gunner Vitek from Sukhinichy. Russian artillery rumbled, the Russian field clouded, went away under with this cover, our group to its own, laid down in the snowdrift Vitek from Sukhinichi, on the run pulled out the Degtyar from Edka’s hands, he loaded Vitya in white snow, set up a light machine gun, a minute passed when our group broke through to his and I’ve been to the wounded Fritz before the headquarters ---- this ober was the aim of the whole night operation ... I got to the Russians and did not tremble, the offburger of the trody. The Germans became enraged by pouring lead on the front looking for their company chief officer. The ober had already testified at the headquarters of the guard of our rifle corps, and Vitek kept squeezing into the snow, the crib flowed from his bloodied boots. But he will reach his own trenches and even more, as part of an assault group, Vitek will run out two months later to the Berlin Crossroads and, covering it with fire, will allow him to advance and squeeze through everything to the platoon, that’s what it fell when when the platoon ran to a favorable position before the Reichstag throw, thanks, Victor, we went ...
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 1 2018 00: 53
          0
          From tandem cumulative grenades and missiles - lattice screens will not protect.
    2. Alexander War
      Alexander War 31 March 2018 14: 06
      +9
      here are the sides of the tower from the KAZ Arena -E there are two issues of cost and protection, I have not yet looked at what armor protects the casing of the KAZ Arena -E
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 31 March 2018 14: 25
        +1
        External fuel tanks are not covered by anything, unfortunately!
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 31 March 2018 14: 41
        0
        I liked the photo, my main message is, give it to the troops, is it really just a matter of finances, it’s a short-sighted tactic, how much I talked with the tankmen from the division in the territory of which we were deployed, so they always said differently that getting into cars is not inevitable, but the stronger the defense, the more confident they feel behind the armor, which means that they can solve problems more efficiently, I concluded. I really liked it, but when they go to the modernization troops with KAZ, I’ll be much more happy with these news. And then at our exhibitions, for example, one ASA is successfully demonstrated, but the pilots did not see it in their eyes and they will have to set their launch limits at the boundary of the effective range of enemy air defense.
      3. just exp
        just exp 31 March 2018 16: 27
        +1
        I don’t see anything at all in the Arena photo.
    3. Dreamboat
      Dreamboat 31 March 2018 14: 34
      0
      I think the scientific research institutes and the General Staff are far from being fools and the news from Syria or Donbass is not watching on television ...
      Either KAZ kits for new tanks already exist (but may not be installed or activated to avoid incidents), or there is evidence that they are far from being as effective as they are shown in commercials.
      There are, for example, developments of the RPG-30 type that inexpensively overcome the very expensive KAZ ....
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 31 March 2018 14: 59
        +3
        Quote: Dreamboat
        There are, for example, developments of the RPG-30 type that inexpensively overcome the very expensive KAZ ....

        So do the RPG-90 already, or is it better to have a six-barrel gun or do you think the KAZ developers got their fees on the Canary Islands too? It is also being modernized and taking into account the development of hardware speed of sensors, the ability to select, then it will only remain for the striking element of the system how much it will be charged. Moreover, there is no reliable information that the RPG-30 overcomes KAZ, there are videos and theoretical comments, and there are no affected armored objects, so this is more for complacency in order to justify the lack of active protection on our armored vehicles. I noticed that such a soothing dignity appears in all military branches: the new Avik appeared --- nonsense, we wisely dismantled the Tu-22M3 naval regiments, because we have the Kinzhal, the tank brigades in Europe will equip the KAZ --- nonsense, the RPG-30 will break through. The advantage in their Air Force, including in the future and in the fifth generation of strike aviation --- there are EWs !!!, they say, not at all managing to think that the inclusion of EW sources is a desired target for the ammunition pointing at them.
    4. venik
      venik 31 March 2018 16: 47
      +3
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      I welcome the modernization of our tanks, but where is the Russian KAZ?

      ============
      Lord Yes, this KAZ was given to you !!
      No, of course the thing is very good and in some cases very effective, especially against cumulative shells, grenades and ATGMs .... BUT! This is not a "panacea" for all ills! In addition, KAZ has a number of serious drawbacks.
      1. KAZ is wonderfully "illuminating" the tank, especially this is unpleasant during an air attack!
      2. KAZ antennas are extremely vulnerable to fragments and bullets of small arms (!!!)
      3. The thing is oh, what a darling !!! And at the same time, it is difficult to manufacture and operate - in the field - you replace the FIGs - you need to drive the tank to the plant .....
      4. Where to place? Along the perimeter of the tower, as in the T-80UM-1 Bars? But then when the antenna module fails, the tower is generally nothing but its own armor is not protected! On the lower edge of the combat module (as in "Armata"?). But then the upper hemisphere remains unprotected!
      5. The effectiveness of KAZ against modern BOPS remains a big question ....... There was true information that the “Afganit” from “Almaty” in tests seemed to knock down the BOPS with a uranium core, but it was not said how effective it was. In addition, the uranium core - such a thing - if ingress of buckshot - can be destroyed even before the armor breaks through ......
      So, there are still problems with KAZ! So far, only the Israelis used them in combat. It seems like 2-3 cases of successful operation of the KAZ were noted, but for what objects - again, it is not clear ..... Yes, and they put few on which tanks .....
      So questions and questions ......
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 31 March 2018 17: 25
        0
        Quote: venik
        It seems like 2-3 cases of successful operation of KAZ were noted, but for what objects - again, it is not clear .....
        by the characteristic trace of the approach, you can understand that these are our ATGMs and no one disputed, although I get on the Internet quickly get it.
        KAZ is wonderfully "illuminating" the tank, especially this is unpleasant during an air attack!
        it’s debatable that the tank’s candle illuminates a maximum of 100 m range, only an electron beam reconnaissance aircraft will notice it, but so far it will distribute the targets, then the tank bat will already advance 5 ° -3000 m from the capture point, and the fact that the enemy is in this square and attacks with tanks , so this is the secret of the police, or whatever it is. The tank’s radar does not touch the enemy’s reconnaissance radar, so the enemy does not see the tanks, that’s the main principle.
        KAZ antennas are extremely vulnerable to fragments and bullets of small arms (!!!)
        Tanks are extremely vulnerable to enemy BOPS and ATGM strikes, so why would you order these same troops protected on the battlefield?
        The thing is oh, what a darling !!! And at the same time, it is difficult to manufacture and operate - in the field - you replace the FIGs - you need to drive the tank to the plant .....
        How much does it cost, but everyone says it’s expensive, but how much does the domestic complex cost? Maybe there is no price for the lack of the complex itself? By your logic, you can’t set sights and cameras and combined stations, because it’ll blow everything away
        Where to post? Along the perimeter of the tower, as in the T-80UM-1 Bars? But then when the antenna module fails, the tower is generally nothing but its own armor is not protected! On the lower edge of the combat module (as in "Armata"?). But then the upper hemisphere remains unprotected!
        The question is for the tank designers, the main thing is that they have a working KAZ on hand, which is not confirmed. It does not seem strange to you that the Americans have taken care of the KAZ and in a year they want to equip 2 tank brigades deployed in Europe with these products, and we do not offer such upgrades the Indians or Algerians ...?
        So questions and questions ...
        I agree with this that there are some questions with the equipment of our KAZ units, but meanwhile, I believe that this is only the first stage in increasing the resistance of armored forces and the tactical support of the first line of attack is already at stake. But this is another story. Thank you for dialogue, Vladimir! hi
        1. Xenofont
          Xenofont 31 March 2018 18: 58
          +2
          Afghanite, in addition to the main antenna of the PAR, has a group of low-power locators that operate continuously, but track targets within a radius of only a few hundred meters and do not unmask the tank. Naturally, this method of target notching requires a very short response time of the control system.
        2. venik
          venik 31 March 2018 19: 08
          0
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          a tank candle illuminates a maximum of 100 m range

          =========
          Oh oh They said about KAZ "Afganit" that the local AFAR could pinpoint an air target for tens of kilometers! The designers even made efforts to reduce the power without losing their resolution (a feature of the AFAR), but then they spat on this matter! Well, if the AFAR of a tank can detect targets for tens of kilometers., Then at what distance can it be "detected" by itself? You don’t know, so I’ll tell you - (very approximately, of course - there are many factors) - about an order of magnitude (10 times!) More !!!
          -----
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          only an electron-beam reconnaissance aircraft will notice it, but for now it will distribute the targets, then the tank battalion will already reach 5oo-3000 m from the capture point

          =============
          Oh, my friend - they "invented" something new - "an electron-beam reconnaissance aircraft" ??? !!! The former RTV-Schnick himself, but I have never heard of SUCH A MIRACLE OF NATURE !!!
          Aircraft (as well as stations and hanging containers) radio intelligence - Yes! There are!
          And on modern planes and helicopters there are warning stations for high-frequency exposure. And they determine the bearing on the target INSTANTLY! And if the type of "emitting device" is known, then approximately estimate the range. Well, if an attack aircraft or a helicopter revolves over the battlefield, then you yourself understand ... Not to mention the PRR and other ammunition aimed at the radiation source .....
          ----
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          How much does it cost, otherwise everyone says dear, but how much does the domestic complex cost? Maybe there is no price for the lack of the complex itself?

          ======
          I think not less than 100 cu (at least according to estimates it turns out). Maybe more ....
          And there are KAZ! One "Arena" - several modifications (for export, by the way it is proposed - only something is not very taken .....).
          ======

          Quote: Thunderbolt
          By your logic, you can’t set sights and cameras and combined stations of the station ---- everything will be demolished in battle

          =========
          But have you not known that one of the methods used by infantry to fight tanks consists in shelling optics? It’s just hard to hit it (optics usually as much as possible “fit” into the silhouette of the tank, and its dimensions are small!
          Another thing is the Arena - its antenna module sticks out "how hello" next to the commander's hatch, rising almost a meter !!!
          -----
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          and we do not offer such upgrades to the same Indians or Algerians ...?

          ======
          As I already said - WE OFFER - but not everyone is in a hurry to buy - there aren’t something to see from the line of potential buyers ... Maybe the price scares off ???
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 1 2018 01: 00
            0
            If the T 14 really has a sighted radar for tens of kilometers, then the tank will become a good target for anti-radar missiles, from such a 500 kilogram fool, if hit, no KAZ, dynamic protection and armored capsule will save.
      2. would
        would April 1 2018 12: 37
        +1
        1. I do not have such information on KAZ "Afganit" so I cannot dispute it. So this statement is on your conscience.
        2. Doctors. The same “Trophy” has anti-bullet and anti-fragmentation protection on all its modules, its class is unfortunately not indicated, but it is declared. That is why they are put on tanks, if the KAZ were not protected from splinters, then it would be meaningless on the technique that, by definition, was created for action in the area of ​​destruction by fragments.
        3. And what can be repaired in a modern tank "with the help of a sledgehammer and a famous mother"? In case of any serious damage, the tank must be driven to the factory or in the field to the appropriate point for repair.
        4. That's just the T-14 "Armata" the upper hemisphere is protected from existing "roof-fires";)
  9. Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov 31 March 2018 14: 08
    +1
    Quote: Herkulesich
    There will be only a few hundred, and then until 2025! It was necessary in 2011 to launch the T95 series! !!

    It hurts, they quickly slap it. Fortunately, the tank building factories "Field Marshal" Taburetkin did not have time to ditch.
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 31 March 2018 14: 24
      +2
      For the production of T95 completely rigged! This is not a month, but maybe a couple of years are needed to restore it, alas! !!
      1. venik
        venik 31 March 2018 18: 25
        +1
        Quote: Herkulesich
        For the production of T95 completely rigged!

        ================
        WHY is it needed ?? They refused the T-95 - the project was frankly raw and had a lot of flaws !!
        Instead, they began to develop "Armata", by the way using some of the most successful solutions from the "Black Eagle" ..... And suddenly - "again 25 !!!" Give the "Black Eagle" !!!
  10. tank66
    tank66 31 March 2018 14: 17
    +2
    While NATO’s roads are strengthening in Europe / year 2 minimum /, it is necessary to intensively teach bridge-disruptive discipline in the airborne forces, we’ll win there for another year. That’s: 600 cars are already something, + old people. There, you see, an Arab woman will raise her head in an old European woman, it will not become a puppet to us. It is hoped that the Third Last will move away ... Saturday thoughts.
    1. poquello
      poquello 31 March 2018 14: 33
      0
      Quote: tank66
      While NATO strengthens roads in Europe

      roads are generally a thing, you can dig a lot of money
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 31 March 2018 19: 47
        +1
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: tank66
        While NATO strengthens roads in Europe

        roads are generally a thing, you can dig a lot of money

        NATO has planned to invest about $ 7 trillion in the preparation of the infrastructure of the East European theater of operations. So, transport corridors to our borders will be equipped.
        1. karish
          karish 31 March 2018 19: 50
          0
          Quote: Captain Pushkin
          NATO plans to invest in preparing East European theater infrastructure about 7 trillion dollars.

          belay
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin April 1 2018 10: 18
            0
            Quote: karish
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            NATO plans to invest in preparing East European theater infrastructure about 7 trillion dollars.

            belay

            Exactly. 7 trillion. This is precisely what caused the nervous reaction of our military and politicians. Because it is a clear preparation for a big war. As preparation for the implementation of the consequences of the “global blow”, when some “analysts” painted a picture of the destruction of Russia as a state in 6 hours.
            Apparently, they proceeded from the fact that the RF Armed Forces would be picking their fingers in their nose for all these 6 hours, while Lavrov would write a complaint to the UN.
            1. poquello
              poquello April 1 2018 13: 12
              0
              Quote: Captain Pushkin
              This is precisely what caused the nervous reaction of our military and politicians. Because it is a clear preparation for a big war.

              it is the preparation for war that causes the reaction, nothing will remain of the roads in an hour
        2. poquello
          poquello 31 March 2018 19: 53
          0
          Quote: Captain Pushkin
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: tank66
          While NATO strengthens roads in Europe

          roads are generally a thing, you can dig a lot of money

          NATO has planned to invest about $ 7 trillion in the preparation of the infrastructure of the East European theater of operations. So, transport corridors to our borders will be equipped.

          ) will cut
          )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
          )))))))))))
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin April 1 2018 10: 12
            0
            Quote: poquello
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            Quote: poquello
            Quote: tank66
            While NATO strengthens roads in Europe

            roads are generally a thing, you can dig a lot of money

            NATO has planned to invest about $ 7 trillion in the preparation of the infrastructure of the East European theater of operations. So, transport corridors to our borders will be equipped.

            ) will cut
            )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
            )))))))))))

            Already sawing. But roads and other infrastructure will still be.
            1. poquello
              poquello April 1 2018 13: 14
              0
              Quote: Captain Pushkin
              But roads and other infrastructure will still be.

              but not for long, if anything begins
  11. Vadmir
    Vadmir 31 March 2018 14: 28
    +2
    part will be brand new tanks.
    It is one thing to remodel the old T-90 into T-90M, T-72 into T-72B3 and T-80 into T-80BVM - that’s right. But to start the release of new T-90Ms is a mistake that will significantly slow down the production of tanks on the Armat platform. Someone decided to save on what you can’t save on.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 1 2018 01: 03
      0
      Rather, the T 72B3, after launching the T 90M series, the MO will no longer purchase.
  12. askort154
    askort154 31 March 2018 14: 39
    +2
    According to U.S. tanks in Russia for 2017.
    Total: 2700 ---- (17500 in storage of different types).
    Of them :
    T-80 - 450 --- (3000 xp)
    T -90 - 350 ---- (200 on hr.)
    T -14 (multiple units)
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 31 March 2018 17: 23
      0
      This is some kind of strange USA, because just the T-80s were almost withdrawn from the units, and for some reason they did not notice about 3000 T-72s ...
  13. Voyager
    Voyager 31 March 2018 14: 46
    +1
    The news is good, but I wonder how far it equals or is inferior to its counterparts going for export in terms of equipment, not to mention the quantity. In addition, initially the potential for organic and well-coordinated work along with the T-14 should be laid down, otherwise the very concept of the latter about secentric wars comes to naught.
  14. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 31 March 2018 15: 03
    +1
    The armor is strong and our tanks are fast! The best response to non-compliance with the Russian anti-doping, dem. and any other foreign rules. The main thing! Carefully take care of the mat.part, and that little guy who gets into the tank, to teach properly, well, like, a tank is not a toy!
  15. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 31 March 2018 15: 13
    +5
    Quote: Vadmir
    part will be brand new tanks.
    It is one thing to remodel the old T-90 into T-90M, T-72 into T-72B3 and T-80 into T-80BVM - that’s right. But to start the release of new T-90Ms is a mistake that will significantly slow down the production of tanks on the Armat platform. Someone decided to save on what you can’t save on.


    The T-90M will not affect the T-14 in any way. Moreover, the T-14 is supposed to be used in conjunction with the T-90M. As a reconnaissance, target designation and fire adjustment tank. It is not yet known how many of them are supposed to be used. But most likely at first 1 in the company, as many correctly noted. There will be a commander’s tank. Then, when there are enough of them, there will be 1 per platoon, that is, the platoon commander. So do not panic. The T-14 and T-90 are different tanks. In essence, the T-90s will cover the T-14 and destroy the targets they discovered. The T-90 modifications will gradually replace the T-72B3, and the MBT will remain for a long time. So they’ll do everything right. As soon as the tactical links from T-14 and T-90M at the training grounds, eliminate the shortcomings, the T-14 will go to the troops.
    1. Vadmir
      Vadmir 31 March 2018 16: 40
      +2
      There will be a command tank.
      A commander’s tank that is different from the others is a target. The experience of fighting in Spain has shown that even a handrail antenna is a unmasking factor and leads to the primary disruption of command tanks and disorganizes troops. Not to mention the gigantic problems of technical support of different tanks in one unit.
      1. would
        would April 1 2018 12: 28
        0
        A slightly not identical example, but I read the notes of the French legionnaire who served in Africa just recently. He was a nurse, and his unit was assigned a car. And they gave them a BBM (I don’t remember the exact model) all painted with red crosses, without a machine gun, so that for 10 kilometers it could be seen that it was a medical machine. The first thing that the commander of the sanitary unit demanded when getting the BBM was to paint over all the crosses, put a machine gun and make sure that the ambulance was no different from a regular combat vehicle. And all because for local rebels and just terrorists, the ambulance is a priority and easily accessible goal.
  16. sabotage
    sabotage 31 March 2018 15: 50
    +3
    Holy people! 4 types of tanks with (in fact) the same cannon in the same army ... Russia ruins itself more than any invasion.
  17. smart ass
    smart ass 31 March 2018 16: 13
    0
    Characteristics where?
  18. tochila
    tochila 31 March 2018 20: 49
    0
    Let's restore the Chelyabinsk Higher Tank Command School !!! So that there was someone to serve on these tanks !!!
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 31 March 2018 22: 17
    0
    Oh, it's too late. I think it will explode soon ..................
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 1 2018 01: 04
      0
      Not with us it will explode.
  20. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 1 2018 01: 32
    0
    Interestingly, but the old tanks are written off from us?
    And then, recently, so many different armored vehicles have been entering the troops,
    that it seems that it will soon have nowhere to put.
    1. Vadmir
      Vadmir April 1 2018 07: 12
      +1
      And then, recently, so many different armored vehicles have been entering the troops,
      New? Where did you see the new armored vehicles? At the parade?
      They take the old T-72, repair it, change the engine, some stuffing, weigh it with dynamic protection and get the T-72B3 - how many tanks were left.
      They take the old BTR-80, repair it, change the filling, remove the turret from the KPVT, put it with a 30mm gun and get the BTR-82A - how many armored personnel carriers were, so much remains.
      And they write that the next 200 have been delivered to the troops new units of armored vehicles. People read and throw bonnets into the air with joy.
      that it seems that it will soon have nowhere to put.
      So, do not worry about the lack of free places, they do not become smaller.
      You can count the new technology on the fingers, it all rides in the parade.
      I am not against modernization, this is a useful and correct matter - it allows comparatively inexpensive reinforcement of combat power, but new equipment is a qualitatively new level of the country's defense capability. You can’t save on this.
      So when Armata, Kurgan, Boomerangs and Coalitions will join the troops in hundreds, I will also toss my cap up and scream three times “Hurray!”.
  21. Old26
    Old26 April 1 2018 18: 45
    0
    Quote: Hire
    But what about Armata? When will she be in the troops? I understand that it’s expensive. But, after all, no more than human lives.

    When will the military tests and revision based on their results. And to hope that there will be thousands of them is not worth it. A year or two ago there was a conversation about hundreds of tanks. It is not clear at the first stage or in general. And what will be “Armata” after all these tests and upgrades is also not clear.

    Quote: askort154
    According to U.S. tanks in Russia for 2017.
    Total: 2700 ---- (17500 in storage of different types).
    Of them :
    T-80 - 450 --- (3000 xp)
    T -90 - 350 ---- (200 on hr.)
    T -14 (multiple units)

    According to Western data, in 2018, 2780 tanks were in service in Russia. Of them
    • T-72 of various modifications - 1980 (plus 310 in the Marine Corps and Airborne Forces)
    • T-80 of various modifications - 450
    • T-90 of various modifications - 350
    In reserve 10200 of them 7000 T-72, 3000 T-80, 200 T-90