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London stumbled over Bulgaria. British media annoyed by Sofia's decision

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Washington and London are clearly annoyed by Bulgaria’s decision on the expulsion of Russian diplomats from "solidarity with Britain." Recall that earlier, London, without providing any evidence of Russia's involvement in the poisoning of the spy Skripal and his daughter, actually opened pressure from the "allies" of decisions to expel Russian diplomats.


Representatives of most EU and NATO countries reported about the expulsion, but several countries stated that they were not going to send Russian diplomatic representatives.

Among them was Bulgaria. Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov said that official Sofia, of course, “stands in solidarity with Britain,” but will refrain from expelling Russian diplomats until the end of the investigation into the Skripale case. Other representatives of the Bulgarian authorities were even more specific in their statements, noting that Sofia would not go to the expulsion, as the Bulgarian people would obviously see this as a decision under pressure from the EU and NATO.

Vice Prime Minister of Bulgaria Tomislav Donchev:
We make decisions of this kind on the basis of universal consensus.


Such statements by representatives of the Bulgarian leadership led to a flurry of anti-Bulgarian criticism in the British and American major media. So, the Reuters news agency publishes a material stating that Bulgaria “is prevented from making decisions by its old ties with Russia.” At the same time, they frankly complain that these ties have not yet been completely broken. And the Bulgarian government and parliament are already accused of direct contacts with the Russian Federation.

London stumbled over Bulgaria. British media annoyed by Sofia's decision


Next Rider he is trying to explain to British and American readers how NATO in general in Bulgaria dared to say “no” (albeit intermediate) to its actual owners. From the material:
Bulgaria, which was liberated from Ottoman Turkish rule by Russia, became one of the most obedient Soviet satellites during the Cold War. Many Bulgarians have a strong cultural affinity for Russia, with which they share Cyrillic and Orthodox Christianity. In the Bulgarian system of power, certain parties have ties with Russia. And President Rumen Radev also says that Sofia will not accept any measures until clear evidence of Russia's guilt in the Skripal case has been provided.


Apparently, the pressure on Bulgaria from London and Washington will only increase.
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  1. Greg Miller
    Greg Miller 30 March 2018 20: 11
    +37
    It seems to me that Bulgaria decided only to wait for the answers of Russia and only then, if the response of Russia is toothless, it will join "the whole civilized world" ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 30 March 2018 20: 13
      +3
      They will still jump to the side. It's just that the time has not come yet. At least, maybe you have some mind?
      Quote: Greg Miller
      It seems to me that Bulgaria decided only to wait for the answers of Russia and only then, if the response of Russia is toothless, it will join "the whole civilized world" ...
      1. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 30 March 2018 20: 34
        +18
        In two world wars, the "brothers" fought against us ... Why would they suddenly grow wiser?
        1. Borik
          Borik 30 March 2018 20: 40
          +8
          Now Brothers will be pressed on black.
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            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 30 March 2018 21: 24
              +11
              Boyan hi Remember what I wrote to you in the comments about 3 days ago? They will push, maybe add. Even if this happens to normal Bulgarians, I personally will have no complaints. We are also different.
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 30 March 2018 21: 34
                +8
                Lesha, welcome hi I have been watching all this for a long time - my opinion is that pytar and Gado are really adequate and reasonable forum participants from Bulgaria. Check out their comments. hi
                1. Haraz
                  Haraz 30 March 2018 22: 04
                  +18
                  I am from Slovakia.
                  The former military chemist confirmed that there are Novichok in warehouses in Slovakia and the Czech Republic.
                  In Slovakia, this is a warehouse in n. Zemianske Kostolany / Zemianske Kostoľany.
                  But in the city of Zilina there is still a cistern underground where there is Yperit.
                  https://www.hlavnespravy.sk/cesko-ale-aj-slovensk
                  o-disponuje-nervovoparalytickymi-latkami-pouzitym
                  iv-britanii-pohlad-profesionala / 1358272
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 30 March 2018 22: 16
                    +6
                    Your punishment would not have flown. Not in the sense of the site, in the sense of their own - if they find out.
                  2. AlexVas44
                    AlexVas44 31 March 2018 07: 33
                    +2
                    Quote: Haraz
                    The former military chemist confirmed that there are Novichok in warehouses in Slovakia and the Czech Republic.

                    Dear Haraz, but you are not a Cossack?
                2. pytar
                  pytar April 1 2018 15: 10
                  +4
                  I have been watching all this for a long time - my opinion is that pytar and Gado are really adequate and reasonable forum participants from Bulgaria.

                  Yes, as I look, soon we will have to leave with VO. For some reason they banyat. request We are writing several Bulgarian here, but apparently we are not welcome at VO. what
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 April 1 2018 16: 20
                    +3
                    We are writing a few Bulgarian here, but apparently we are not welcome at VO

                    Not all, Boyan, far from all. You see that opinions are divided.
                  2. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny April 1 2018 20: 29
                    +3
                    No, Boyan, not worth it. The opinion “because of the Iron Curtain” is always interesting, all the more not biased. In licking NATO were not seen, unlike members of the forum from ... well, you understand where. They are not even a member of the bloc, but they stand by the breast, even without proof laughing . Your opinion is very interesting to me personally. Ka4 then wrote that in early childhood, with the song "Alyosha" I asked my mother why my aunt was calling me. I believe that most Bulgarians believe in Russia and believe in Russia.
              2. Borik
                Borik 30 March 2018 21: 36
                +10
                The news has just passed through the mailbox. Britons are completely overgrown.
                The British authorities inspected the Aeroflot aircraft at London Heathrow Airport, without showing any reason for this. This was the first to be reported by RIA Novosti and Interfax, citing sources at the airline.

                “The British side did not provide any reason to inspect the aircraft. It was decided that after an inspection of the aircraft by British authorities, an additional inspection of the aircraft by the crew and the representative office will be carried out, ”the airline said.

                According to the representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova, the British authorities do not allow the crew of the Aeroflot flight to be present during the inspection of the aircraft. “The British have now begun this search, which they claimed, without releasing the commander from the cockpit and not allowing him to be present during the search. All actions of the British authorities are carried out in an ultimatum manner, ”said Mrs. Zakharova on the Russia 24 television channel.

                Ours also needs something to answer. Arrange such a shift to their aircraft by disassembling it into its components.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 30 March 2018 21: 53
                  +10
                  Quote: Borik
                  The British authorities inspected the Aeroflot aircraft at London Heathrow Airport, without showing any reason for this.

                  The Times recently called for the seizure of Aeroflot aircraft. That’s the answer ...
                  Quote: Borik
                  the British authorities do not allow the crew of the Aeroflot flight to be present during the inspection of the aircraft. “The British have now begun this search, which they claimed, without releasing the commander from the cockpit and not allowing him to be present during the search

                  All minimum requirements are violated in the search for property with ex-territorial status.
                  The only thing left for the Britons was to “find” on board the vessel a container with meldonium, polonium and a “newcomer” in the bucket.
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina 30 March 2018 22: 30
                    +8
                    Ilyich, I just went for a loaf of bread ... Inspection of an airplane in the Russian Federation ... What happens if I go for alcohol?
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 30 March 2018 23: 27
                      +3
                      Quote: sabakina
                      What happens if I go for alcohol?

                      Glory,
                      do not drink ... wassat
                      drinks
                    2. NN52
                      NN52 30 March 2018 23: 32
                      +1
                      Vyacheslav, let's go together, do not mind?
                      And God forbid, these little shavers will want to watch our UNION, m .....
              3. pytar
                pytar 30 March 2018 22: 33
                +21
                Hi Okolotochny (Alexey) , Svarog51 (Sergey) and lis-ik (Sergei)! Thanks for the support! hi
                I want to write something and ask you to think it over! Do not rush to judge! My letter is not short, but I hope you read everything! So ... It seems to me that pressure on Bulgaria has begun BEFORE the case of Skripal! More precisely on the same day! And it began on the side from which we did NOT expect! Skripal etched on March 4but! In Bulgaria with the highest visit to 2 March, the Patriarch of All Russia Kirill came! Came to honor the brightest Bulgarian holiday 3-March - the Day of the liberation of Bulgaria from the Ottoman yoke! This is the great day when Bulgaria and Russia have contacted forever! All Bulgaria was waiting for the patriarch with an absolutely positive mood! The celebrations came with an elevated feeling, as expected! All Bulgaria rejoiced and applauded! And suddenly ... the Russian patriarch makes strange expressions! He did not like something in the speech of President Radev! The Radev, who, during the year of his presidency, did more to improve relations with Russia, than all the previous ones taken together! This Cyril declares in front of the cells the minutes before leaving! On the 1 channel, Soloviev will organize a program into which an anti-Bulgarian flurry is sizzling! I don’t remember at all seeing such a hysterical, insane Bulgarianophobic show as “Time will tell” with 06.03 somewhere! We will not say who is right now - Radev or Cyril, but the production itself, the image itself, the time of the show, talk about the action planned in advance! Many Bulgarians know Russian and watch Russian TV channels. In Bulgaria they are broadcasted in all cable heels. This conflict, which arose, as it were, from scratch, overshadowed the holiday! Almost all Bulgarian institutions were indignant at this brutal provocation on the part of Cyril! But the Bulgarians ... ordinary people, were outraged by the behavior of the Russian patriarch! As one of my friends said: Cyril in 5 min. achieved what all Western propaganda could not do in 15 years! Russia lost for these 5 min. tens of thousands of their sympathizers in Bulgaria! Yesterday I saw opinion polls on one of the most popular social agencies in Bulgaria. Here is the result:
                In Bulgaria, there is a decline in the traditionally positive attitude towards Russia.
                A study by SA Alpha Research shows that 67% of Bulgarians consider the statements of Patriarch Kirill that the Bulgarians belittle the role of Russia in the liberation of Bulgaria unacceptable and humiliating, and 25% of the opposite opinion.
                For the first time ... there has been a serious decline in the traditionally positive attitude towards Russia - from 66% to 56%. However, how the tension between Europe and the USA on the one hand and Russia on the other because of the “Skripal case” will affect the opinion of the Bulgarians, it will be clear in the coming months. Amid the decline in a positive attitude towards Russia, support by the Bulgarians of the EU is growing - from 50% to 58%.

                Don't you think all this is too suspicious? We know about the ambiguity of the personality of Patriarch Kirill! We know that a very strong 5-th column is operating, even at the top of the Russian state! How deep have these people penetrated in power? Often Russian politicians, connoisseurs, political scientists, historians allow themselves to be rude anti-Bulgarian attacks and speak frank truths! Where do we need to be protected from? Where is the enemy, where is the friend ??? belay
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 30 March 2018 23: 13
                  +9
                  Where do we need to be protected from? Where is the enemy, where is the friend ??? belay

                  If the statement of the Patriarch so reduced the number of sympathizers, as you say, sympathizers were rather weak.
                  There is such a proverb: God save me from bad friends, and I will get rid of enemies myself.
                  You would listen to what the Patriarch said, and not talk about his personality. And then, with these arguments, you look a lot like a student of Soros courses. hi
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 30 March 2018 23: 51
                    +13
                    If the statement of the Patriarch so reduced the number of sympathizers, as you say, sympathizers were rather weak.

                    This stupidity, I often meet on the forums! Probably precisely such opinions were intended to be reached among the Russian audience!
                    The topic "who was right" has already been discussed here at VO. I don’t want to enter verbal fights. Here is the link. Who wants to let them read the discussions.
                    https://topwar.ru/137576-skandal-v-bolgarii-eto-n
                    ash-patriarh-i-nashe-delo.html
                    The question is, why did Cyril do it this way? Why did they show a truncated version of events on the ru-channels? Why did not the exact translation of the word Radev be shown? Why didn't the ego show the answer? Why didn’t they give a comparison between the words of the President of Bulgaria and the words of Cyril? These were different things! But in Bulgaria we saw and observed all this in real time! For us it looks like a gross provocation! When the enemy, says untruth, then this is normal! But when a friend seemed to do this, it was very poorly perceived!
                    And then, with these arguments, you look a lot like a student of Soros courses.

                    I have no idea what is there at Sorov’s courses. But I suspect that some who appear here as ardent "Russian patriots" have passed just such a cruise ...
                    1. cats
                      cats 31 March 2018 07: 57
                      +4
                      Quote: pytar
                      In Bulgaria, we saw and observed all this in real time! For us it looks like a gross provocation! When the enemy, says untruth, then this is normal! But when a friend seemed to do this, it was very poorly perceived!

                      We in Russia also don’t understand how a friend could turn out to be a traitor ..
                      Quote: pytar
                      The question is, why did Cyril do it this way?

                      And I had a question, why did Cyril go to you at all?
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 31 March 2018 12: 14
                        +4
                        We in Russia also don’t understand how a friend could turn out to be a traitor ..

                        Do not understand, since you changed the facts! Traitor from the one you betrayed! Who betrayed all his allies? Who fled penitent in the US Congress? Who rumbled "the West is no longer our enemy", "will we build capitalism and study the West" ..? wink
                        And I had a question, why did Cyril go to you at all?

                        Through cooperation between the Russian Orthodox Church and the BOC, and in fact to arrange a provocation. request
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                  2. Solomon Kane
                    Solomon Kane 31 March 2018 00: 44
                    +12
                    The scandal arose because of the words of the Patriarch to the President of Bulgaria Rumen Radev: “Russia liberated Bulgaria - not Poland, Lithuania, not other countries, but Russia. And I want to frankly say that it was difficult for me to hear references to the participation of other countries in the liberation of Bulgaria. "Neither the Polish Sejm nor the Lithuanian Sejm decided to start a war with Ottoman Turkey. We are for the historical truth, we won it with our blood, and there can be no political and pragmatic reasons why today this truth should be hushed up or falsely interpreted." .
                    To which Deputy Prime Minister Valery Simeonov stated that Patriarch Kirill has no right to indicate to Bulgaria how and what to do correctly, the website rus.bg reports. “This man did not come down from heaven, did not come out of Paradise, and is not the messenger of Jesus Christ. He is known as the Cigarette Metropolitan of Russia. Since 1996, he has imported 14 billion dollars in excise-free cigarettes ... and 4 billion dollars in wine for the church’s needs. He also has a private plane. His watch costs 30 thousand. Who is he? This is not an Eastern European confessor. This is agent Mikhailov, a second-rate agent of the Soviet KGB ... Imagine the patriarch Neophyte will go to Putin and begin to explain who Cyril and Methodius ... The second-rate agent of the Soviet KGB will tell us what is right and what is not. That will not work. "
                    Nishtyak the patriarch went on a visit ...... wassat
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 31 March 2018 12: 21
                      +4
                      You quoted the words of Cyril, said in response to a speech by President Radev. And here is the speech itself: "This is a memory of the fraternal impulse of Russian society, which proved that the Orthodox Bulgarians are not alone. We will not forget it. We will not forget the words from the manifesto of Emperor Alexander II, declaring war on the Ottoman Empire, that" this requires a sense of justice, and a feeling Our own dignity. "" The people themselves went to war, led by the tsar, "wrote Dostoevsky in his diary," people read the manifesto and were baptized. "These scenes, these feelings are deep and unshakable by selfish political interpretations. On the battlefields of the Russian-tour Coy liberation war dead soldiers of many nations. Russian, Romanians, Finns, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Poles, Lithuanians, Serbs and Montenegrins to all of them Bulgaria - last house, and we honor both of their characters. "
                      Where do you see the mention of Polsha, Lithuania, etc. in it? Russian media broadcast reproaches of the ego of the Highness of Kirill, but their camera was removed before the president answered. In it, Rumen Radev firmly declared: “As the Church fights for the soul of every person, we are grateful for the memory of every war, who fought in the Russian army under the banner of Emperor Alexander II and died for the freedom of Bulgaria, no difference from ego nationality.”
                      1. Solomon Kane
                        Solomon Kane 31 March 2018 15: 58
                        +5
                        The Polish Legion in Turkey (Polish: Legion Polski w Turcji) is an armed formation created during the Russian-Turkish war of 1877-1878. in Istanbul from the Poles who emigrated to Turkey.
                        The Legion consisted of two units: European and Asian. The first, numbering 70 people, under the command of Jozef Yagmin [pl], was part of the Salih Pasha division. On August 23, 1877, he took part in the battle near the village of Kizlar, while suffering heavy losses. The Asian detachment acted on the Caucasian front.

                        Fine! The Poles fought on the side of the Ottoman Empire, and Radev ... honors them as heroes ....
                        On the battlefields of the Russian-Turkish liberation war, warriors of many nations died: Russians, Romanians, Finns, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Poles, Lithuanians , Serbs and Montenegrins. Bulgaria is the last home for all of them, and we honor them as our heroes. "

                        The president of the country does not have the right to distort historical facts ....
                        In 20-30 years, you will say that the American expeditionary force of the marines freed Bulgaria from the Nazis. And in Plovdiv there is a monument not to Alyosha, but to John Smith, nothing in a cap ...
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                    2. pytar
                      pytar 31 March 2018 16: 49
                      +3
                      Polish Legion in Turkey ... First, numbering 70 people, under the command of Jozef Yagmin, was part of the Salih Pasha division. On 23 of August 1877 of the year he took part in the battle near the village of Kizlar, while suffering heavy losses.

                      In Bulgaria, Kizlar is not present. Probably we are talking about the settlement of the same name in southwestern Moldova. Then this region was part of the Ottoman Empire.

                      When copying links from a wiki, bother checking data. No.
                      Fine! The Poles fought on the side of the Ottoman Empire, and Radev ... honors them as heroes

                      He honors not those 70 people, but those:
                      At the beginning of 1876, more than 85 000 soldiers with a catholic faith were in active service in Armenia. According to data from 1876 in the Russian army serve 64 883 soldiers born in Polsha. They make up 9,36% of the total army. The rest are Lithuanians and Belorussians. Of these, half participate in the Russian-Turkish war. The General who died during the defense of Shipka Pole is alone.
                      “On the battlefields of the Russo-Turkish liberation war, warriors of many nations perished: Russians, Romanians, Finns, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Poles, Lithuanians, Serbs and Montenegrins. Bulgaria is the last home for all of them, and we honor them as our heroes.”

                      The president of the country does not have the right to distort historical facts ..

                      He just adheres to historical facts! And VV Putin, arriving in 2003 in Bulgaria, did not mind listening to a similar greeting.
                      Years through 20-30, you will say that the American expeditionary force of the Marines freed Bulgaria from the Nazis. And in Plovdiv there is not a monument to Alyosha, but to John Smith, nothing in a cap ...

                      Yes, you don’t know what you have in 5 min. happen, but talk about decades. Fortuneteller from you will not work. No.

                      .
                      1. Solomon Kane
                        Solomon Kane 31 March 2018 22: 36
                        +3
                        Not even 15 years had passed before the Bulgarians turned from friends into potential enemies, becoming part of NATO ........ crying
                    3. pytar
                      pytar April 1 2018 11: 09
                      +4
                      Solomon Kane (Constantine) - Not even 15 years had passed before the Bulgarians turned from friends into potential enemies, becoming part of NATO ... crying

                      Do not cry, Konstantin! When your leadership / Gorbi, Yeltsin / betrayed us and sold us, we did not stop counting the Russian brothers! When the ATS (1990) collapsed in the next 14 years (2004) we were not in any NATO. When the CMEA (1990) collapsed, we were not in any EU in the next 17 years (2007). It was you who wrote us down as potential enemies! Now, hurry to record in real enemies! We will never be enemies, but we are already careful about you! Past experience taught! wink
                      1. Taisa
                        Taisa April 3 2018 18: 26
                        +1
                        Boyan! Your opinion is very interesting to me. I would like to insert my word. Please try to understand us as a people, not as a state. Unfortunately, the state collapsed and we swam with difficulty, trying to rebuild everything and not forget the past. Not all countries want to put up with this, the current situation is an example. Your president most likely meant the multinational army of that time, while the Patriarch expected words about the Russian army in his speech, because he believes that Russia is Russian. A new fashion has appeared (the West just introduced this concept, calling Russian any person who speaks Russian, no matter what country he lives in now).
                        Emotions rule now, not prudence; maybe we should not blame each other, but just understand and communicate more often.
                        Politics by politics, but people need friendship
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                2. rocket757
                  rocket757 30 March 2018 23: 32
                  +12
                  I do not like priests, but hierarchs are finally not ours anymore.
                  Man must carry faith in himself!
                  1. Flooding
                    Flooding 31 March 2018 02: 31
                    +5
                    Quote: rocket757
                    I do not like priests, but hierarchs are finally not ours anymore.
                    Man must carry faith in himself!

                    Really.
                    And I still do not like moralizers. The moral man must carry in himself.
                    And my son does not like teachers. I suppose that man should carry knowledge in himself.
                    Is the hint clear? It seems rather bold.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 31 March 2018 19: 23
                      +5
                      The moral of this fable is this, pop-popova, everything human is human!
                      Faith is not the same with religion! Do you want to be slaves and God, yes please. Do you want to send a cult, I do not see any complaints .... at a distance from a person. Will be with your claims to secular climb! .... no need, we’ll be whole, we are here, you are there!
                      And do not touch faith! Not one religious she bequeathed!
                      1. Flooding
                        Flooding 31 March 2018 20: 36
                        0
                        Quote: rocket757
                        The moral of this fable is this, pop-popova, everything human is human!

                        Well, for sure. And to the engineer - engineering, film criticism - film criticism and further on the list.
                        Quote: rocket757
                        And do not touch faith! Not one religious she bequeathed!
                        Reply Quote

                        Sure. Because everyone has their own faith. Some have mammon, some have a golden calf, some have a capitol hill, some have their fists.
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 31 March 2018 21: 59
                        +3
                        Do not interfere with sour and fresh, pop et pop, but an engineer, critic and everyone else, just people.
                        But just can’t you believe in everything human? Sadomit-izr, or what? So it’s better not to me, I’ve got horns at once ..........
                3. alexmach
                  alexmach 31 March 2018 00: 35
                  +11
                  And what did he do wrong Kirill? The Finns freed you and the Poles? Really? Did you disagree with what was said in the president’s speech? And do you think he had no right to this? Or you can’t disagree with Bulgaria at all.

                  Separately, I would like to thank you in this topic for the position that your country has taken in the diplomatic issue. So to speak on behalf of a Russian not from Russia.
                  1. Flooding
                    Flooding 31 March 2018 02: 39
                    +6
                    alexmach, fully support.
                    Everything was said correctly, judging by the comment above.
                    Excessive pride slipped around the Bulgarian brothers?
                    Well, pride is a sin.
                    Only Western NATO friends have the right to teach?
                    Blood shed by Russia does not give such a right?
                    Think it over, bros.
                    And if the words of your president quoted by Comrade Solomon Kane are true, then shame and shame on you. After such words about our Patriarch, I would not heed your complaints from the word at all.
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 31 March 2018 12: 31
                      +3
                      And if the words of your president quoted by Comrade Solomon Kane are true, then shame and shame on you.

                      Here you are deceived! lol Comrade Solomon Kane quoted the reproaches of Cyril, and in my comment a little higher, the translation of the speech of President Radev is accurate! Read and be sure yourself that Cyril reproaches Radev with words that Radev did not say in essence! By the way, I watched videos of all public meetings and dialogues. I was impressed that Cyril did not wait for the translation at all, but usually interrupted the translator and began to speak without being heard! By the way, the translator was a young priest and he did not translate exactly. I can compare.
                  2. dSK
                    dSK 31 March 2018 08: 19
                    +1
                    Quote: alexmach
                    Did you disagree with what was said in the president’s speech?

                    Quote: Solomon Kane
                    For what vice prime minister Valery Simeonov said that Patriarch Kirill has no right to indicate to Bulgaria how and what to do correctly
                    such vice prime minister For a long time he will not sit in his chair, it is necessary to be rude less.
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 31 March 2018 12: 32
                      +4
                      Valery Simeonov said several times that he did not speak as a vice prime minister, but expressed his personal opinion.
                    2. maxud1978
                      maxud1978 April 3 2018 09: 40
                      +1
                      in Russia, Dimasik is still at the post. so not a fact))))
                  3. pytar
                    pytar 31 March 2018 12: 25
                    +4
                    And what did he do wrong Kirill?

                    Read my comment above! Compare the speech of Radev, with the reproaches of Cyril! These are completely different things! His eyes are piercing that Cyril is speculating, changing peoples with states!
                    1. alexmach
                      alexmach 31 March 2018 13: 09
                      +4
                      Compare the speech of Radev, with the reproaches of Cyril

                      I already read your comment above. I do not understand your indignation. Cyril answered in a normal tone. Yes, yours spoke of peoples, and Cyril translated this on the topic of states.
                      His eyes are piercing that Cyril is speculating, changing peoples with states!

                      But the fact that you, the Finns and Poles freed you, doesn’t hurt your eyes? It cuts me very hard! What is the name of at least one finale of the deceased during the liberation of Bulgaria? And at least one fought?
                      With such statements you deliberately downplayed the role of the Russian people in the liberation of Bulgaria, and this spit in our direction and the patriarch corrected you absolutely in the matter and did it correctly. I fully support the position of the patriarch in this regard, regardless of my attitude to religion and the Orthodox Church.

                      You know, even friends have quarrels and minor mistakes. Friends can lead discussions on sensitive issues, and about history, and lead it publicly. And it’s not shameful for a friend to correct a friend, but the stink you raised about this and continue now ... Is the patriarch’s personality doubtful? something there he did not like in the president’s speech? I don’t like it either in your president’s speech, I also openly declare this to you personally!

                      I honestly am very surprised at your position. According to that essay, I got the impression that this is a provocation of some anti-Russian forces in your society, but what you write about it (I consider you a simple representative of the Bulgarian people and not an official and not sent by a propagandist) and in what tone you do it .. Yes, what are you brothers, you really are some kind of changeling!
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 31 March 2018 14: 37
                        +4
                        What is the name of at least one finale of the deceased during the liberation of Bulgaria? And at least one fought?

                        The topic has already been discussed in more detail at VO. Follow the link and read the comments. There is information about the Finns and the Poles. hi
                        https://topwar.ru/137576-skandal-v-bolgarii-eto-n
                        ash-patriarh-i-nashe-delo.html
                        Yes, what brothers are you, you really are some kind of changeling!

                        Is it because, I think, not like you? And 80% of the Bulgarians think like me! Well, then you are right ... With people like you, neither I nor my sonarodniki are brothers. request
                      2. pytar
                        pytar April 5 2018 09: 13
                        0
                        Why is this a provocation? Let’s say 900 Finns have set you free, okay, the communists taught you that.

                        It is strange why repeat the same thing after you realized that R. Radev did not say anything like that!
                        Why is this a provocation?

                        You write, but obviously do not read the answers. It indicates why this is a provocation.
                        Why do I still need to water it with slop?

                        He doused himself with slop. That slop poured against the Bulgarians as a people, according to the ru-TV does not honor these "political scientists".
                        Why can't the so-called “brothers” oppose Cyril calmly and restrainedly and even here you allow yourself to speak out against him?

                        President Radev did just that. But for some reason, his answer was cut out on the ru-TVs. And I am an ordinary forum users. I do not represent the state. I do not have such authority. Therefore, I can express my personal opinion, as it is, without too much diplomacy.
                        maybe you "bros" think too much about themselves and allow themselves too much?

                        It would be so if our Patriarch came to Moscow and began to study GDP on his version of history.
                  4. Taisa
                    Taisa April 3 2018 18: 33
                    +1
                    or maybe it was talking about the Finns and Poles, who were then in the Russian army? Are there only Russians in the army now? Cyril spoke about the country, the President of Bulgaria - about the peoples. I understand that. It seems like a trifle, but it was inflated to a buoy.
                    1. pytar
                      pytar April 3 2018 19: 08
                      +1
                      Hi Taisa. love I see that you are now registered at VO and this is your first comment on the site. I believe that your interest in this topic is not accidental ?!
                      I will say a few words in response. The problem with the content of the greeting would not be fundamental if it were posed normally. Patriarch Kirill is not just a priest, but also a diplomat representing Russia. You probably read how everything was presented on the media in Russia? In the cut-out version and with a glaring distortion of facts. This clearly indicates a provocative approach. The goal was clearly a provocation against Bulgaria and against certain Bulgarian political leaders. Radev is considered conditionally pro-Russian. In fact, it is pro-Bulgarian and not at all pro-Western.
                      On the same day, on 3-March, the President of the Russian Federation congratulates Bulgarian Prime Minister Boris Borisov! Bb leader of the ruling party GERB / ​​Citizens for the European Development of Bulgaria /. The same Borisov, who is reproached for the failure of many joint projects! At the same time, recently BG started talking about resuming the construction of a nuclear power plant, about the Balkan hub ... Bulgaria recently nevertheless signed a contract with the MiG CS for the repair of the Bulgarian MiG-29. By the way, remember what topic we are writing! Maybe there’s a clue there, somehow ... And mind you ... GDP does not poison Radev! Radev is a patriot, and Borisov is flexible ...
                      I have my own version of all these events, but I don’t want to spread it here. I need to write a separate article for this! lol
                      In short, all these events are interconnected and I accept them, as a mixed message to our authorities.
                      In general, Russia is exporting its internal struggles to the field of those countries that are traditionally malleable to Russian influence. Bulgaria is one of the most susceptible to everything that comes from Russia. For better or worse, I'm not going to judge. hi
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach April 4 2018 22: 54
                        0
                        The goal was clearly a provocation against Bulgaria and against certain Bulgarian political leaders

                        Why is this a provocation? Let’s say you have freed you 900 Finns, okay, the communists taught you that. Let’s say Cyril is wrong, okay, he’s really not a saint and not true in the last resort, although I support his position. Why is this a provocation? Why do I still need to water it with slop? Why can't the so-called “brothers” oppose Cyril calmly and restrainedly and even here you allow yourself to speak out against him?

                        Provocation? Doubtful image of the patriarch? Has no right to comment on the words of the president? maybe you "bros" think too much about themselves and allow themselves too much?
                  5. Taisa
                    Taisa April 3 2018 18: 38
                    0
                    Alexander, but what nations were in that Russian army? what is the argument about?
                    1. alexmach
                      alexmach April 4 2018 22: 48
                      0
                      Finns and Poles? As part of the Russian army? You probably think that in the Russian Empire there was a universal military appeal the same for all?
                      I read the links of our Bulgarian "friend", but there were 900 people of conditional finans under the command of someone with either a Swedish or a German surname (probably also a typical finn)
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                    1. Hiss
                      Hiss 31 March 2018 01: 57
                      +2
                      Oh, I'm sorry, only from the "text ukrofront", the nerves after them to hell. I will consider. Good time.
                      1. Andrey K
                        Andrey K 31 March 2018 02: 15
                        +6
                        Quote: Hiss
                        ... I will consider. Good time...

                        Well and goodies. More accurate.
                  2. Flooding
                    Flooding 31 March 2018 02: 41
                    +3
                    Quote: Hiss
                    Don't give a damn what this "werewolf" was broadcasting. "This" is not a "shepherd" for us, however, now you are not brothers - European people. I don’t want war, I’m afraid of it, but I will not tolerate your geyrope either. "X" to you, not "parent 1/2/3 & so on", eat yourself. And yes, the Turks will help you - civilization :)

                    Talk about yourself. Do not drag others.
                    I don’t think that many would like to be in the same row with you.
                    1. Taisa
                      Taisa April 3 2018 18: 34
                      0
                      agree with you.
                6. Andrey K
                  Andrey K 31 March 2018 02: 09
                  +17
                  Quote: pytar
                  ... where is the enemy, where is the friend ??? belay...

                  Have you decided to appoint the Patriarch as an enemy?
                  Or Valery Simeonov pouring mud on him, was looking for friendship with Russia?
                  This is an absolutely tactless upstart.
                  Valery Simeonov (about the "occupation" of Crimea by Russia and toughening sanctions against it):
                  ... We must not forget this aggression, which brought history back many pages ...

                  Patriarch Kirill told the truth, while not a word or thought - he did not offend the fraternal Bulgarian people.
                  Your elite has done a good job, and the Russian is to blame.
                  Interesting you get.
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 31 March 2018 12: 41
                    +3
                    Have you decided to appoint the Patriarch as an enemy?

                    There is nothing like that. We would not have invited him if we considered him an enemy. He was teased with a mentor tone, not having listened to the said president, he began to teach him. At the same time he reproached for the words that Radev did not say at all! I personally reviewed everything in 10 times and was surprised ?! belay
                    Or Valery Simeonov pouring mud on him, was looking for friendship with Russia?

                    Valery Simeonov, expressed his personal opinion. He is one of 4 Deputy Prime Ministers. Representative of a small party in a coalition government. Everyone else called for him to apologize!
                    Patriarch Kirill told the truth, while not a word or thought - he did not offend the fraternal Bulgarian people.

                    The fact of the matter is that he did not tell the truth. Read my comment above with both statements - Radev and Cyril. Moreover, the Bulgarian people listened and watched everything. How missed Cyril is seen from the indignation of the Bulgarian Russophiles! Even they reacted negatively to Kirril's behavior!
                    Your elite has done a good job, and the Russian is to blame.

                    Guilty, the one who messed up. In the specific case of Cyril.
                    Interesting you get.

                    Yes, you have even more interesting! laughing
                    1. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 31 March 2018 13: 10
                      +10
                      Quote: pytar
                      ... Valery Simeonov, expressed his personal opinion. He is one of 4 deputy prime ministers. Representative of a small party in a coalition government. Everyone else called on him to apologize! ...

                      Well, let him express his personal opinion in his kitchen, and not collect telebrifings.
                      Where is this "representative" and where is the Patriarch. These are two different quantities.
                      If the Patriarch goes too far, he will find a way to get better. No one is without sin. But to spread slander, hiding behind a position in the government of Bulgaria, does not honor this government.
                      Let's end on this. I do not want to delve into the jungle, because of your Simeonov.
                      It’s not worth it for us to quarrel here yes
                      PS The nuns of our Iversky Convent (I am from Samara) embroidered the banner:

                      The banner was presented to Bulgarian militias near the city of Ploiesti on May 18, 1877. The flag was handed over to the Banner Company of the Bulgarian Militia - the 3rd company from the 3rd squad. Militias fought with him in the battle for Stara Zagora and Nova Zagora, for Shipka and Sheinovo.
                      My city is twinning with Stara Zagora, there is a Stara Zagora street and Shipka cinema on it soldier
                      That's what we need to remember and be proud of. hi
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 31 March 2018 14: 52
                        +4
                        Well, let him express his personal opinion in his kitchen, and not collect telebrifings.

                        In Bulgaria, people can express their personal opinions freely, even if they are in government posts! Moreover, they must indicate that the opinion expressed is PERSONAL! Valery Simeonov did just that. I believe that he was wrong. But apparently he was addicted to emotions, after the provocation of Cyril. I'll tell you honestly! Rarely did the Bulgarians have such a single-mindedness as regarding the statement of Cyril! Rejection, resentment and resentment!
                        It’s not worth it for us to quarrel here

                        I agree! good Not worth it! There is someone who will say something wrong! yes
                        My city is twinning with Stara Zagora, there is a Stara Zagora street and Shipka cinema on it

                        There are 257 cities in Bulgaria. 83 of them have twin cities in Russia. Due to the monuments in honor of Russia and the Red Army, Bulgaria is in first place in the world. This is the only country in which new ones continue to be built. Localities, streets, squares, objects of culture, named in honor of Russia, do not fall for calculation.
                        That's what we need to remember and be proud of.

                        I subscribe to these words! good
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                      3. Taisa
                        Taisa April 3 2018 18: 42
                        +2
                        Thanks for the memory, an amazing story.
                    2. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 31 March 2018 15: 00
                      +8
                      Quote: pytar
                      ... I subscribe to these words! good ...

                      Well and goodies yes
                      Be healthy Boyan drinks
                7. cats
                  cats 31 March 2018 07: 49
                  +7
                  Quote: pytar
                  This conflict, which arose, as it were, from scratch, overshadowed the holiday!

                  That is, you roughly say a whole year to us shitting, acting like enemies,
                  and then you are surprised that we ruined your holiday .. belay
                  Tell me, given the policy of your state in relation to Russia,
                  why should our patriarch give you concessions?
                  The dirt that flows from Bulgaria, how do you justify it?
                  You also reproach that someone there turned away ..
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 31 March 2018 12: 50
                    +3
                    That is, you roughly say a whole year to us shitting, acting like enemies,

                    Yes, what is the whole year? It is so since the time of the pharaohs! lol
                    and then you are surprised that we ruined your holiday ..

                    Like, "will we arrive at your holiday and beat us well"? Is not it? lol
                    why should our patriarch give you concessions?

                    By presumption, the Patriarch is a spiritual person! He cannot make any concessions. So no one expects this.
                    The dirt that flows from Bulgaria, how do you justify it?

                    There are some opinions in Bulgaria. As in Russia. According to my observations, anti-Bulgarian dirt pours out from Russia in 100 times more than in Bulgarian anti-Russian mud. I believe this is coordinated from one place ...
                    You also reproach that someone there turned away ..

                    We do not reproach anyone, but we constantly listen to some reproaches. Tired of it already.
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                  1. a housewife
                    a housewife 31 March 2018 10: 34
                    +3
                    Is God a Jew? No, God is Russian! But the Germans God is German! Are you out of your mind? Are you a heathen, maybe? Who is there - Svarog, Perun. They are Russians! Well, brains on one side. God is the Creator, Creator, Savior - He alone. Or does each nationality have its own world created by its God? Enough of fables to weave. AND! You mean that Christ came first to the Jews? With whom should one start, why not with them? God has his own reasons; he does not have to explain them to us personally.
                  2. Andrey K
                    Andrey K 31 March 2018 10: 42
                    +9
                    Quote: Oleg147741
                    ... Regarding Cyril (especially with a small letter) and other religious riffraff, I will tell you one thing ...
                    ... Look at all the Orthodox priests on their faces ...

                    For shushura and slopat can shlopotat. Itself, long ago approached the mirror?
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                      1. Andrey K
                        Andrey K April 3 2018 11: 54
                        +7
                        Quote: maxud1978
                        ... churchfil, have you been liquid for a long time? fingers already narrow, wretched ...

                        Do you support coprophilia? So the site was wrong laughing
                  3. pytar
                    pytar 31 March 2018 12: 52
                    +2
                    Very interesting koment! Thank you and respect to you personally from me! hi
                9. SOF
                  SOF 31 March 2018 13: 00
                  +5
                  Quote: pytar
                  Where do we need to be protected from? Where is the enemy, where is the friend ???

                  ... in vain you are so. Cyril did not say a single bad word about the Bulgarian people. Review the interview again. It was about the “tolerant” rhetoric of representatives of the government of the state of Bulgaria. Let me remind you - thanks were expressed to Poland and Finland, apparently in view of the fact that the regiments of the Russian imperial army stationed in these provinces of the Russian Empire took part in the liberation.
                  To some extent, this is even correct, since then the representatives of these peoples served in the Russian army, but then it would not hurt to mention also: Ukrainians, Belarusians, Tatars, Bashkirs, Kabardins, Balkars, Ingush, Chechens, Circassians, Avars, Udmurts , Mordvinians, Komi, Yakuts ...... It will take all of the non-mentioned half a day to list ....
                  Why did you forget about them? Their blood also abundantly washed your land.
                  I emphasize - about the Bulgarians, in his words, nothing bad was said!
                  hi
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 31 March 2018 15: 01
                    +2
                    So ... 1.Please tell me where in the President’s speech was said about the states of Poland and Finland? Give quotes if you are not at a loss! I can help! Somewhere here in the comments, I put the exact translation of the whole speech.
                    2. Still from the beginning of the 70 during socialism, at the insistence of the USSR in Bulgaria, other peoples began to be mentioned in speeches on the 3-March holiday. I can provide a video of eyewitness accounts.
                    3. I'll give you another interesting link! "Former President Pyrvanov: In 2003 on Shipka, Putin did not object to gratitude for the Liberation of other peoples!"
                    https://rus.bg/obschestvo/obschestvo/22520-eks-pr
                    ezident-pyrvanov-v-2003-godu-na-shipke-putin-ne-v
                    ozrazhal-protiv-blagodarnosti-za-osvobozhdenie-dr
                    ugikh-narodov
                    1. SOF
                      SOF 31 March 2018 19: 22
                      +2
                      Quote: pytar
                      Somewhere here in the comments, I put the exact translation of the whole speech

                      ... I read, even the translation, simultaneous, listened ... I admit ... About the countries, in the speech, it really is not said.
                      But ... I wonder why, only the nations that are the titular states of the current states are listed? But Tatars or Ingush, for example, no? Is it because there are no countries of Tatarstan and Ingushetia?
                      You, apparently, are an educated person and you cannot but know that then, with equal probability, your independence could be defended by about 104 nationalities of the Russian Empire. Why are they like that?
                      ... I, of course, do not argue with the assertion that we are not a multinational people, but a multinational nation, but, for nowIt’s incorrect to call 104 people of all, without exception, Russian.
                      This is the first. Well, the second. Well, all the same, what did the patriarch say bad about the Bulgarians?
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 31 March 2018 21: 52
                        +2
                        About countries, in a speech, really is not said.

                        That is, Patriarch Cyril, 2 times publicly and before the media, reproached the President for things that he did not say? Do you think Cyril did not listen to what Radev says? Did they chat in the brewery there, or what ?!
                        But ... I wonder why, only the peoples that are the titular states of the current states are listed?

                        I suppose that due to the fact that they now have their own national states! I gave an example: 3 brother led by an elder / RI /, did me good. Then they broke up and live independently / RF, Pl, Fin, etc. /. I, according to normal human logic, should thank them all! Of course I will give credit, first of all to the oldest, but I will not forget the others! Which is what the President of Bulgaria did.
                        we are not a multinational people, but a multinational nation, but so far, calling the 104 of the people of all, without exception, Russian - is incorrect.

                        Since the question is ambiguous, the administration of Cyril, it was necessary to clarify the protocol with the Bulgarian authorities! For decades, no one from Russia did not mind! Almost the same words were said to Putin during the ego visit in 2003!
                        This is the first. Well, the second. Well, all the same, what did the patriarch say bad about the Bulgarians?

                        2 times he said untruths and exposed invented claims publicly in front of the cameras! You yourself were able to compare the wallpaper sayings!
                        1. The first time during a meeting in the presidency. It is strange why, when Radev began to answer, the cameras of Russian journalists turned away from him !!! On the Russian TV channels did not show! Instead, they almost immediately staged a Bulgarian-phobic brawl, which shocked Bulgarian observers.
                        2. The second time, Cyril repeated his claim to the steps of the plane before departure! It turned out, as if he was cheating and escaping without giving an opportunity to answer! We say, "Gusen is unstoppable byaga!" / the perpetrator escapes and when he is not persecuted. If in his first statement there could be a misunderstanding and an error in the translation, then after that 2 day passed before departure!
                        The negative reaction in Bulgaria went already after these events! For many Bulgarians, there is no doubt that this was a deliberate provocation on the part of Cyril and those who stand behind him. The provocation carried out on the Most Happy Holidays for Bulgaria, while from a person from whom no one expected this!
                      2. SOF
                        SOF 31 March 2018 23: 03
                        +2
                        ...
                        It's not about who offended anyone, but about the fact that you joined NATO, the southern stream, in spite of your interests, you leaked. And the surrogate that will be in his place now is a surrogate. And who will guarantee that tomorrow you will not have a change of power, as in the "wedding in Robin", and you will not again celebrate independence from the Turks with the Turks (2016).
                        ... one thing I can say is that as a volunteer, under Plevna, I wouldn’t go now. You have friends now, by block.
                        ... you know Boyan, it seems to me that we should tie up with our dispute, since with each post the degree of mutual hostility increases ......
                        hi
                      3. Taisa
                        Taisa April 3 2018 18: 54
                        +1
                        pytar,
                        Boyan, think for yourself why the Patriarch needs to spoil our relations? Well, not for the same thing, he went to you! Definitely not for that. So there was a misunderstanding of the parties, and those who prepared this meeting are to blame, you are right in this.
                  2. pytar
                    pytar April 1 2018 11: 38
                    +3
                    It's not about who offended anyone, but about the fact that you are in NATO ..

                    And in 90, you suddenly ... betrayed all your allies and made friends with the same NATO! Now your reproaches look mildly inadequate. No.
                    ... south stream, contrary to your interests, you leaked. And that surrogate who will be in his place now is a surrogate ......

                    You do not worry about our interests! We know our interests better than you! The gas hub Bolkan is much more profitable for BG than UP. Thanks to the ego, all gas flows in South-East Europe gather at one point - in Bulgaria.
                    And who will guarantee that tomorrow you will not change power, as in the "wedding in Robin" ....

                    Well, you know, it’s normal when the power changes, and does not rule for 100 years ... When the rulers do not suit us, we change them. wink
                    ..and you will not again celebrate independence from the Turks with the Turks (2016.) .....

                    Is it possible with this in more detail? I suspect that you will quote one wild and long exposed fake, which was launched in Russia around 03.03.2016! lol
                    ... one thing I can say is that as a volunteer, under Plevna, I wouldn’t go now ...

                    We know that! Russia has long flirted with Erdogan. Turkey you swear sworn friend! Political conjuncture! And if the Turks are your friends, then, accordingly, the Bulgarians should be presented as "traitors and enemies"! That's what is done in your media. You are instilled with a negative attitude towards the Bulgarians. You are being manipulated and led. "Good luck" in error! negative
                    ... you know Boyan, it seems to me that we should tie up with our dispute, since with each post the degree of mutual hostility increases ......

                    You have it all around. Do not notice? sad This is due to the fact that according to your version you are "always right", and all the others are "bad"! If you think objectively, you will understand that this cannot be! You are being pumped with some crazy thesis and you are turning all into enemies! Go wild! stop This not normal! request
                    1. SOF
                      SOF April 2 2018 09: 10
                      +1
                      Quote: pytar
                      Go wild! It is not normal!

                      ... we have long condemned our 90s. Only the lazy do not kick the first president :)
                      Quote: pytar
                      Is it possible with this in more detail? I suspect that you will quote one wild and long exposed fake, which was launched in Russia around 03.03.2016!


                      ... no question - excellent photoshop release March 04, 2016 ...
                      And the rest -
                      ... thank you for confirming my words ....... otherwise I was reassuring myself with hopes ...... - a policy based on the principle "I myself am so" and curtsy with a diplomatic scandal in an attempt not to merge at least a gas surrogate transit ....
                      soldier
                      1. pytar
                        pytar April 2 2018 09: 57
                        +1
                        I suspect that you will quote one wild and long exposed fake, which was launched in Russia around 03.03.2016!

                        My suspicions turned out to be true! laughing good
                        We are talking about a fake, which was replicated in 2016 in Rus-smi during the celebration of 3-March in Bulgaria! This is part of the information war that is being waged in the Russian Federation with some circles. Bulgaria spat off without any connection with reality! This fake has an interesting story, by the way! Pravda.ru Pravda.ru is one of those who discussed this non-existent “novelty” in complete seriosis, which does not honor them! There was noted and warlike "historian" demagogue prof. Oleg Ayrapetrov. The photo you inserted has nothing to do with the topic. Fake was refuted by all Bulgarian authorities, including the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry. This does not prevent the "experts" like you from continuing to repeat this wondrousness. Of course you are Alexei, now discredited! negative

                        That fake was also denied in Russia, but switched to a different hardening: "Bulgaria did not attach Erdogan, but did not invite Russian delegations to celebrate Shipki!"
                        By the way, here is a video from Shipka from 03.03.2016. No comment!
                    2. Taisa
                      Taisa April 3 2018 19: 05
                      +1
                      Boyan, relations with Bulgaria are our relations with you, relations with Turkey are with the Turks of Erdogan-NATO, but we are establishing relations with him, because there is a war in Syria, it can spread to all of Europe and Asia, and this center needs to be put out urgently. And then to establish peace between states, it’s enough to kill people for the interests of others! Friendship with Erdogan is not against Bulgaria.
                      1. pytar
                        pytar April 3 2018 22: 46
                        +1
                        Friendship with Erdogan is not against Bulgaria.

                        Relations in the world are in a reciprocal relationship. After almost all the Balkan countries entered NATO and the EU, or are about to enter, Russia became more active, because otherwise it would completely lose the Balkans. The danger for the Balkan countries is that the Russian Federation acts together with Turkey. They are trying to knock out the West together and divide the Balkans into spheres of influence. Turkey plays the role of a threat, and the Russian Federation is a savior. Moreover, the threat from Turkey is real! Russia will simply wait until our countries here, seeing that the West is powerless, will themselves ask for it under its protection. In general, I will be glad if Russia returns, because this is its natural place. But not in that way! Just the dividing line passes through my country, and no Bulgarian will accept such a thing. Bulgaria has never in history had relations with its neighbors as good as in the last 10 years, and here again the redistribution into "ours" and "yours" is being prepared!
                10. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny April 1 2018 14: 08
                  +2
                  Boyan hi , there is no background here (IMHO of course. In light of recent events, the Patriarch got a little emotion. Plus, his speech (most likely) was shown in a "convenient" format, like your politician’s speech with us. And about Salisbury, remember before Sochi 2014? The same refusals to visit, the pretext of Ukraine. They are trying to drive into a corner and make an outcast. But this is only in their sick imagination. An outcast means no contacts at all. So that the West speaks? We will cooperate with Russia on topical issues. This is worse women with low social responsibility, at least they directly call the price for their services.
                  1. pytar
                    pytar April 1 2018 15: 17
                    +3
                    In fact, all these provocative actions against the Russian Federation will lead to a split among the West. It is already evident that the dictates of London and Washington are adopted extremely reluctantly among European countries! Moreover, some / including Bulgaria / opposed directly! If it’s reached the point, what else will happen ?! bully
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny April 1 2018 18: 45
                      +2
                      The principles of judo and aikido do are to use the strength of an adversary against himself. Still, the Japanese are smart people .., .. were. Maybe, but it's if you play long. Will there be enough strength and will there be traitors during this time? I do not know. I want to believe in the best. But do not keep evil on the Patriarch, although he is a shepherd, he is still a citizen of Russia. Do you know how the famous lawyer Koni defended the priest? The case was obviously losing. And Koni’s speech before the jury: He has forgiven your sins so many times, so will you not forgive him alone? The priest by jury was acquitted.
                11. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny April 1 2018 20: 33
                  +2
                  Well, and you go out, banyat. We are also banned, not childishly, emotions take over and violate the 5m site rules. Your post was supported by 17 members of the forum. This is not enough. Somehow I asked you - is it a story when monks asked for forgiveness from Russian tourists really or fake?
                  1. pytar
                    pytar April 2 2018 10: 22
                    +2
                    Somehow I asked you - a story when monks asked for forgiveness from Russian tourists for real or fake?

                    I honestly don’t know! request I heard about this, but I can neither confirm nor deny.
              4. d1975
                d1975 30 March 2018 22: 48
                +3
                I join you! Power and people are different worlds! drinks
            2. lis-ik
              lis-ik 30 March 2018 21: 41
              +5
              Quote: pytar
              Pressed! Especially in Russian-language forums! wink All the mattress soldiers of the information war will open again the memos and begin: "Bulgarians, traitors, fought against us in two wars, wanted to sit on two chairs, laughed from the south stream, nuclear power plant pro-xxx, looking for freebies, changing shoes on the fly, bargaining for concessions, etc. etc."! laughing

              Accordion. Do not pay attention to the populists, we are actually different, and personally I do not think that you are all traitors to the Slavs.
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              1. Setrac
                Setrac 30 March 2018 22: 13
                +8
                Quote: dr.star75
                "Bulgarians, traitors, in two wars fought against us, want to sit on two chairs,

                Of all our former allies in the USSR and the Warsaw Pact, Bulgarians are the least traitors.
                Bulgaria fought against the USSR
            4. Vkd dvk
              Vkd dvk 30 March 2018 21: 55
              +2
              Quote: pytar
              Pressed! Especially in Russian-language forums! wink All the mattress soldiers of the information war will open again the memos and begin: "Bulgarians, traitors, fought against us in two wars, wanted to sit on two chairs, laughed from the south stream, nuclear power plant pro-xxx, looking for freebies, changing shoes on the fly, bargaining for concessions, etc. etc."! laughing

              AND WHAT, WAS IT NOT SO?
            5. sabakina
              sabakina 30 March 2018 22: 26
              +7
              Boyan, come on without hysteria. Regrettably, the war is getting closer every day. Who will you be with?
              1. pytar
                pytar 30 March 2018 23: 01
                +8
                Boyan, come on without hysteria. Regrettably, the war is getting closer every day. Who will you be with?

                1. There is not a gram of hysteria Vyacheslav. You think so. You obviously do not know the Bulgarians! These people themselves are patient and calm in the world! For us, time is measured not from a minute, but over the centuries! We have 13 centuries of proven history, and how much more before that one Lord knows! yes
                2. There will be no war. There will be provocations in the Donbass and in Syria, but nothing more. yes
                3. "And if suddenly war ...!" belay And if there is a war, it will be thermonuclear and it does not matter who will be where or on which side. We’ll die. fellow
                4.And on whose country will we be in skirmishes? With small and unimportant will "on the west side" request . If something more serial appears, we will be on the side of the Russian Federation soldier . To reproaches I will answer this way: Standing in front of steel rollers makes no sense. Take a ride on us and do not even notice. Die pointlessly. recourse Let’s retire, but then, if the katokh goes against Russia, unscrew the nuts from it and it will break. wink There are several examples. 2015 g. - American missile defense, 2016 g. - anti-Russian Black Sea flotilla, and so it goes again.
                5. Personal question! Why do you have Vyacheslav, a female nickname sabakina and an avatar with a photo of a woman? belay
                1. Town Hall
                  Town Hall 30 March 2018 23: 05
                  +6
                  Quote: pytar
                  And on whose country will we be in skirmishes? With small and unimportant we will be "on the side of the west." If something more serial appears, we will be on the side of the Russian Federation




                  And that is ours and yours? .. you ugly describe your country in this case.
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 30 March 2018 23: 15
                    +8
                    Read carefully! And do not distort what was said! We owe it to you to die immediately useless and harmless? What is the use for Russia? We know how to fight and are still counted on us by the Balkans. As for Russia, it needs to have its own in the NATO camp. The NATO-people are blaming the Bulgarians! The Trojan Horse is called Moscow. Ugly? In my opinion, when an enemy calls me that, it's super! By the way, this is my personal opinion.
                    1. Town Hall
                      Town Hall 30 March 2018 23: 22
                      +3
                      Quote: pytar
                      Trojan horse "Moscow call us.




                      Usually traitors are called that. But if you like it, it's up to you.


                      .... why not an open alliance with Russia, if you really hate it with all your heart and NATO that you will betray in case of something?. Or just a profit?
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 30 March 2018 23: 32
                        +8
                        Usually traitors are called that. But if you like it, it's up to you.
                        Who calls it? West! Ah ... well, let it be.
                        and why not an open alliance with Russia, if you really hate it with all your heart and NATO that you will betray in case of something?. Or just profit?

                        There was a union. ATS was called. For half a century Bulgaria was itself a faithful ally of the USSR! The Bulgarian army was the most highly motivated of all the allied armies! And then ... USSR / Russia betrayed us ... left us! Yours started building capitalism and friendship with ... NATA !!! You often chat about betrayal! But for some reason, forget where it all started!
                        Bulgaria joined NATO reluctantly and without a referendum. We do not have much sympathy for them. We believe Russians, but not so to Russian politicians ... Cleanse your country, then we will believe. You now have a lot of things, not so.
                      2. Taisa
                        Taisa April 3 2018 19: 16
                        0
                        "Trojan horse of Moscow"
                2. Flooding
                  Flooding 31 March 2018 02: 46
                  +3
                  Quote: pytar
                  There will be no war. There will be provocations in the Donbass and in Syria, but nothing more.

                  You seem to have a poor understanding of the situation.
                  There is Transnistria, the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, the Central Asian underbelly.
                  They will hit at all pain points where there will be such an opportunity.
                  However, this does not threaten Bulgaria.
                  You can fall back into the centuries-old nirvana. What is the 21 century for a country with an 13 century of history. They will decide without you.
                  1. pytar
                    pytar April 1 2018 13: 39
                    +2
                    You can fall back into the centuries-old nirvana. What is the 21 century for a country with an 13 century of history. They will decide without you.

                    Bulgaria must first solve its internal problems. To raise the economy. Strengthen your statehood. We have no claim to teach the world how it "should live"!
                    Bulgaria is at the crossroads of the interests of great forces! Strong winds are blowing on the Balkans from all sides! If the tree does not take strong roots in the earth, it will stand weak and the storms of the ego will blow away!
                  2. Taisa
                    Taisa April 3 2018 19: 20
                    +1
                    maybe enough to escalate and look for the guilty ?. The country needed to be protected, and not rejoice that it was falling apart. Then Bulgaria would not be in NATO but with us ..
                    1. pytar
                      pytar April 3 2018 22: 56
                      +1
                      maybe enough to escalate and look for the guilty ?. The country needed to be protected, and not rejoice that it was falling apart. Then Bulgaria would not be in NATO but with us ..

                      In politics, there is no concept of "guilty." There are only interests. As Bulgaria ended up in NATO, I have already banished here in posts. At one time it was an unpopular, but inevitable event. As for the EU, it did not and so far has no alternative. 10 years of membership yielded tangible results and the economy began to rise. Therefore, the level of EU approval among the population is very high. I write as it is.
                3. cats
                  cats 31 March 2018 08: 06
                  +5
                  Quote: pytar
                  Facing steel rollers makes no sense.

                  Quote: pytar
                  Die pointlessly.

                  You think this is normal .. belay
                  I’m your enemy, but if you call me an enemy, I’ll be offended .. belay
                  Brothers .. Fuuu .. negative
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 31 March 2018 14: 30
                    +1
                    You think this is normal ..

                    First, look for the meaning of the term "normal", and then read your koment. yes
                    I’m your enemy, but if you call me an enemy, I’ll be offended ..

                    You adore coming up with enemies! Right in the middle of a circle around some enemies! Even under your beds hid! laughing
                    Brothers .. Fuuu ..

                    Blowing out? Close the window! Catch a cold! bully
                4. a housewife
                  a housewife 31 March 2018 10: 46
                  +3
                  I will say what I think. The Soviet Union created the Warsaw Pact. Bulgaria was in it. The Union collapsed, the Warsaw Pact was canceled. Bulgaria remained at that treacherous time alone. Such a small country in our world must somewhere lean against the strong. Bulgaria leaned against NATO. Nobody wanted to lean against us then. Now you can enter different organizations with Russia. But Bulgaria is already afraid. It is necessary to get out of submission to all these naty, brussels and states. But the Bulgarians are well towards Russia. So here. You can’t sit on two chairs! Either you still support Russia in everything, or you will be forced to act against us. Nobody will allow you to sit in NATO and untwist their nut roll. While the two powers are disassembling each other, you still live. But God forbid you fall between! You will be crushed. And Turkey will eat. And Russia will not come to help out.
          2. Scoun
            Scoun 30 March 2018 22: 50
            +3
            Quote: Borik
            Now Brothers will be pressed on black.

            I won’t write many letters .... I’m very surprised by the Nightingale’s speech in the Federation Council of the Russian Federation ... it’s time to collect it.

            A year ago, he worked with the Bulgarians, they passed certification for the certificate of ES / SE (he was pupilized in letters))).
            In general, media, diarrhea, bloggers, etc. ... this is far from reality.
            PS.
            Oh, and they will be pressed by the Zapadlontsy.
            1. Oleg14774
              Oleg14774 31 March 2018 09: 33
              0
              It’s not so simple with Solovyov; he is a very skilled manipulator. It has already been proved that Stalin had little to do with the repression of the common people. Because really came to power in 36-37g. in which the purges at the top began. But Solovyov is very very deftly attributed to him. Yes, Stalin is not a lamb, but THEN THERE WAS NO OTHER CHOICE. WHAT AND OUR VICTORY PROVED. And the fact that they stormed very intensively in recent years, they knew that Hitler was on the verge of creating an atomic bomb. Everyone understands what it meant then.
              He spins up the situation with fire very correctly and there is nothing to reproach him with ... at first glance.
              Do not be lazy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6u1xb0WcdQ
            2. alexmach
              alexmach 31 March 2018 12: 01
              +3
              Indeed, it is amazing how deep the opinion is. I didn’t expect this from the organizer of the swearing show.
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          4. pytar
            pytar 31 March 2018 13: 04
            +2
            Now Brothers will be pressed on black.

            Pressed! Especially in Russian-language forums! All the mattress soldiers of the information war will open again the memos and begin: "Bulgarians, traitors, fought against us in two wars, wanted to sit on two chairs, laughed from the south stream, nuclear power plant pro-xxx, looking for freebies, changing shoes on the fly, bargaining for concessions, etc., etc."!
            I copied my comment again, since the ego was deleted due to exposure of the site rules - I wrote the font in bold. Things are going to be that I myself will soon leave this site.
        2. verner1967
          verner1967 31 March 2018 08: 03
          +1
          Quote: Greg Miller
          In two world wars, the "brothers" fought against us ...

          did not fight No. And the fact that they turned out to be Germany’s allies was a forced measure provoked by Russia.
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 31 March 2018 08: 51
            +1
            Quote: verner1967
            Quote: Greg Miller
            In two world wars, the "brothers" fought against us ...

            did not fight No. And the fact that they turned out to be Germany’s allies was a forced measure provoked by Russia.

            But there is no other way in this world.
            Before our eyes, Russia provoked the whole civilized world from Britain to Moldova.
            Write more, we believe.
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 31 March 2018 11: 29
              0
              Quote: Flood
              Write more, we believe.

              read the story, uncle, and do not believe anyone
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 31 March 2018 20: 01
                +2
                Quote: verner1967
                Quote: Flood
                Write more, we believe.

                read the story, uncle, and do not believe anyone

                Thanks for the advice, lord.
                I try to self-educate to the best of my ability.
                If there is anything to say in more detail - please, I allow.
                1. verner1967
                  verner1967 31 March 2018 20: 23
                  0
                  Quote: Flood
                  I try to self-educate to the best of my ability.

                  go on, you're on the right track
        3. Letun
          Letun 31 March 2018 08: 38
          0
          Quote: Greg Miller
          In two world wars, the "brothers" fought against us ... Why would they suddenly grow wiser?

          Yes, they did not grow wiser. 100% sure this is a feint with my ears for the fact that the EU threw them with South Stream. They, when at that time they lifted up their paws on Russia, thought that they would be rolled off nishtyachkov from the west, and from there they showed a cookie lol Now they have waited for a convenient case of the sloness to spoil.
        4. RUSS
          RUSS 31 March 2018 09: 22
          0
          Quote: Greg Miller
          In two world wars, the "brothers" fought against us ... Why would they suddenly grow wiser?

          They fought only in the First World War, in the second they only in every possible way aided Germany.
      2. Andrey K
        Andrey K 30 March 2018 20: 55
        +14
        Dmitriy hi
        Quote: 210ox
        ... They will still jump to the side. It’s just the time has not come yet. At least, maybe they’ve gotten the mind? ...

        About the mind is unlikely. Just several times raked in the forehead - when the steam engine ran forward.
        For the most part, the people are pro-Russian, the elite on the Kukan are among NATO partners.
        Trite trying to sit on two chairs, waiting for someone to take.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 30 March 2018 21: 09
          +4
          Is it in vain that the Patriarch traveled and raised? Behave decently. It is necessary to support. What gloating something? hi
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 30 March 2018 21: 13
            +9
            Quote: Alex777
            ... Was it in vain that the Patriarch traveled and raised? Behave decently. It is necessary to support. What gloating something? ...

            Where did I gloat?
            I respect the Bulgarians, for the people of Bulgaria - with two hands for. About what, clearly wrote.
            All the tricks of the leadership of Bulgaria - from the evil one, about which the Patriarch just poked theirs with a murm.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 30 March 2018 22: 57
              +4
              the elite on the "kukan" of NATO partners.
              Trite trying to sit on two chairs, waiting for someone to take.

              The people, of course, matter, but for example in the Czech Republic they sent a diplomat, although even their Zeman says that there is no evidence, and in Bulgaria their elite did not send.
              By the way, the Bulgarian President left the Air Force commander when he was not given the MiGs to repair with us. And he won the election. And we repair MIGs. hi
      3. Fedorov
        Fedorov 30 March 2018 21: 30
        +1
        There Kirkorov pulls the maz. wink
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 30 March 2018 21: 48
          +7
          Quote: Fedorov
          ... There Kirkorov pulls the ointment. wink...

          Valery, they killed nafig laughing
    2. URAL72
      URAL72 30 March 2018 20: 22
      +10
      I don’t think so. The Bulgarians laughed with the south stream, now trying to win back, but the train left. But there is at least hope for a branch, and why should we lose a client, only the pipe is not dimensionless. There is also the MiG service, and next to the Serbian example, they also hunt at least something for a freebie ...
      1. Hire
        Hire 30 March 2018 20: 29
        +6
        It's like that. But here, I think, it was also played by the fact that they were not offered anything in return, they stupidly took it “by the throat”.
      2. Gado
        Gado 30 March 2018 20: 59
        +9
        Are we, you know, fucked up? Looking at your flag, I would tell you something, but they will ban me for it. Who, who, and you, Ukrainians, are still those suckers.
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 30 March 2018 21: 17
          +3
          Quote: Gado
          Are we, you know, fucked up? Looking at your flag, I would tell you something, but they will ban me for it. Who, who, and you, Ukrainians, are still those suckers.

          Yes, your authorities did normally, this is a test for burdocks which can be later bred further. Bulgarian politics is becoming more and more for the state, and not for the allies. hi
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      3. asiat_61
        asiat_61 April 1 2018 07: 29
        0
        Serbs know what NATO is. No need to erect a slander.
      4. Taisa
        Taisa April 3 2018 19: 51
        0
        oh my god, gentleman weighs a freebie .. And maybe we learn to respect?
    3. Samaritan
      Samaritan 30 March 2018 20: 28
      +44
      A terrible tragedy happened - the Obama couple had a white child. On this occasion, the press secretary of the US State Department, Marie Harf, reports at a press conference.
      - Russia and personally President Putin are undoubtedly the culprits of this incident, we have absolutely all the evidence, but because of the secrecy, we cannot open it.
      Journalist: - And how do you explain that 9 months before President Obama visited President of Ukraine Poroshenko? Are these two facts not related?
      MX: - Absolutely not connected. They can’t even be compared. In addition, President Poroshenko paid a visit to the couple Obama as a private individual. He could just visit his grandmother in the USA. The next question, please!
      - And how do you explain that both the face and the hairdo do not look like Putin, but they are very similar to Poroshenko, almost the same person.
      - Given that the baby is not African American, portrait similarities cannot be determined by eye.
      - So you want to say that all white on one face?
      - I did not say that!
      - And what about the fact that according to the results of an independent genetic examination, Poroshenko is 99,9% of the baby’s father?
      “We have undeniable evidence to the contrary.”
      - What?
      - Statement by President Poroshenko, laid out by him in the "Yu Tube".
      - And you are based only on this statement?
      - Of course, because it is very logical: the person is not to blame and honestly said that. We do not doubt the veracity of this data.
      “And if President Putin says the same thing?”
      “Naturally, we cannot trust his statement.”
      - Why?
      - Listen, you are simply expounding Moscow propaganda! Do you have more questions?
      “And how does the first lady herself comment on the causes of the incident?”
      - She believes that since the possibility of involvement of friendly US countries in it is completely excluded, it means that this was undoubtedly an act of aggression on the part of Russia and personally President Putin.
      “But what does she say about the root cause event, so to speak?” This is impossible not to remember!
      - Listen, I'm tired of your pro-Russian attacks, the next question!
      - So you are convinced that Russia and Putin are to blame?
      “We have no doubt about that.”
      - Given that the last year President Poroshenko visited the Obama family, the baby looked like Poroshenko like two drops of water and the genetic examination determined Poroshenko’s paternity, and President Putin, according to satellite data, was at least 20 thousand km from the first lady, you still think Putin is guilty? But why?
      - My job is to voice the conclusions of our experts, and not engage in stupid polemics. In addition, you greatly underestimate the sexual power of the Russians, their speed and range! To summarize: so that such a tragedy does not come to every American home, we intend to ask the world community to introduce the most severe sanctions against Russia and personally President Putin.
      1. hrych
        hrych 30 March 2018 20: 35
        +1
        So Baba Obama is also black and the child, even from slightly white Poroshenko, will no longer be white. But the worst thing is that Misha Obama - a man with an Adam's apple and a big sausage and could get pregnant soon Poroshenko wassat
        1. a housewife
          a housewife 31 March 2018 11: 29
          +1
          But this is a mistake. In very rare cases, a baby can be born white, with blue eyes. But his African genes will not go anywhere, his children or grandchildren can be born black, even with a white pair. Once I read the book of a writer from South Africa, for a long time, I don’t remember the author and the title. Such a situation is described there, and in the preface it was said that the book is autobiographical. And she laughed, of course - all their excuses and tricks were conveyed exactly.
        2. Borik
          Borik April 2 2018 00: 18
          +2
          The continuation of the topic raised in the emergency report of the State Department Pis..tana is important and extremely timely. I, as well as their specialists, have no doubt that Russian hackers were able to set up both Presidents Putin, Obama and Poroshenko, and the first lady of II. Moreover, as I understand it, Putin not only personally directed the efforts of Russian hackers, but also personally organized the telephone penetration of well-known Russian prankers Vovan and Lexus into Madame Obama’s bedroom. It was precisely because of the aggressive silence of the last defendants that the State Department lost the last doubts about the involvement of the Obama couple in the birth of a white child for President Putin personally and his faithful associate Minister Shoigu with his Topol-2M.
    4. svp67
      svp67 30 March 2018 20: 31
      0
      Quote: Greg Miller
      It seems to me that Bulgaria decided only to wait for the answers of Russia and only then, if the response of Russia is toothless, it will join "the whole civilized world" ...

      Let's see ... I'm afraid that they will be killed. remember everything, including "injections with an umbrella" ...
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 30 March 2018 20: 36
        +9
        There is nothing supernatural here, the Bulgarians soberly assessed the situation and made an appropriate decision.
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 March 2018 20: 45
      +1
      Quote: Greg Miller
      It seems to me that Bulgaria decided only to wait for the answers of Russia and only then, if the response of Russia is toothless, it will join "the whole civilized world" ...

      I think changing shoes on the fly in this case, the Bulgarians will not succeed ... most likely, this is a glimpse of sanity.
      1. Opera
        Opera 30 March 2018 21: 05
        +3
        Oops! Does summer come tomorrow ?! Or were they afraid that our patriarch would come to them again ... Remember how His Holiness looked at the main Bulgarian after his statements that the Finns and Poles had freed Bulgaria ?! Terrible thing! It would be that in the hand of church utensils would surely ...
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 30 March 2018 21: 07
          +2
          Quote: Oper
          Or they were afraid that our patriarch would come to them again ...

          And who would like the censer to fly over the kumpole. wink
    6. nesvobodnye
      nesvobodnye 30 March 2018 21: 25
      +1
      it does not seem that Bulgaria decided only to wait for the answers of Russia and only then ...

      Bulgarians very much hope for the restoration of plans for the South Stream, including through their country, it was recently voiced. Remember how they whined when the first refusal to build a pipe through Bulgaria was voiced?
    7. Amper
      Amper 30 March 2018 23: 01
      +2
      Naive!
      Someone who resists American fascism is SERBIA, which we have betrayed ...
      Do not help, do not forgive .... I do not see ... EBNa with Co.!
    8. Mac Simka
      Mac Simka 30 March 2018 23: 31
      +3
      It’s better to talk about how Papa begs for money, and then wags his tail in front of the EU.
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 30 March 2018 20: 11
    +15
    "Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov said that official Sofia, of course, is" in solidarity with Britain ", but so far will refrain from expelling Russian diplomats" until the end of the Skripals investigation. "

    I recently kicked the Bulgarians upon their decision to send diplomats. I admit a mistake, I was wrong. recourse All the more so "pressure on Bulgaria from London and Washington" obviously not frail.
    1. Baby sitter
      Baby sitter 30 March 2018 20: 15
      +2
      not yet evening...
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 30 March 2018 20: 17
      +15
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Moreover, the "pressure on Bulgaria from London and Washington" is clearly not frail

      Yes ..... It seems that now it will be popular for the Bulgarian authorities to explain both Brussels and Washington what transatlantic friendship is ...
      But - well done Bulgarians. Thanks to them!
      good
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 30 March 2018 20: 31
        +9
        Ilyich, welcome hi But the Union was accused that our identity is crushed. There is no Union, now there is the EU, but what do they want? Moreover, interestingly, London left the EU and left no desire to govern. I will support Bulgaria in its decision. good
        1. ul_vitalii
          ul_vitalii 30 March 2018 20: 46
          +6
          Good evening, Sergey hi It seems to me that either the compromising material was not enough for the leadership of Bulgaria to boost them, or they managed to solve the priority economic problems, that they behaved like that, or the British scored a quorum and did not finish pushing them.
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 30 March 2018 20: 54
            +5
            And all the best to you, Vitaliy hi The Bulgarians did not surrender to the Britons; they had the courage to defend their opinion. What surprises me is different - the Britons left the EU and push their opinions there. She died, she died. wink
            1. ul_vitalii
              ul_vitalii 30 March 2018 21: 02
              +6
              The Americans are behind them, the outpost of the Anglo-Saxons in Europe, otherwise a guide and a mongrel. smile
            2. lis-ik
              lis-ik 30 March 2018 21: 50
              +1
              Quote: Svarog51
              And all the best to you, Vitaliy hi The Bulgarians did not surrender to the Britons; they had the courage to defend their opinion. What surprises me is different - the Britons left the EU and push their opinions there. She died, she died. wink

              So I think they patched it all up, so now another experiment of degenerates is in line.
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 30 March 2018 22: 19
                0
                Maybe you are right.
      2. Gado
        Gado 30 March 2018 21: 12
        +6
        You, it seems to me, are one of the few inadequacies in the VO. Thank you for your “thank you,” and I am satisfied with that. Good luck!
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 30 March 2018 21: 47
          +2
          Mutually, Vasco!
          hi
      3. nesvobodnye
        nesvobodnye 30 March 2018 21: 26
        +2
        Well done, nothing to do with it. They are hoping for a gas pipe through their territory.
        1. Senior manager
          Senior manager 30 March 2018 22: 02
          0
          Quote: nesvobodnye
          Well done, nothing to do with it. They are hoping for a gas pipe through their territory.

          The trick is that the Bulgarians rely on the pipe and take steps to realize their hopes, in spite of the geyrope. Chancellor spun more interesting - and the diplomatic workers sent and the joint venture pushed in the direction Russia needed. Oh how!
        2. Taisa
          Taisa April 3 2018 20: 01
          +1
          I would look at your courage in this position. And maybe enough to be malicious and become a normal person?
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        1. Gado
          Gado 30 March 2018 21: 08
          +4
          Well and good, I will not apologize to you either, I read your "pearls" above and they are enough for me.
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 30 March 2018 21: 10
            +2
            Tongue, well, or fingers should be monitored.
            1. nesvobodnye
              nesvobodnye 30 March 2018 21: 28
              +2
              That's for sure, and follow everyone.
              Bulgarians, and indeed any country, are completely heterogeneous. I read statistics not so long ago - citizens in relation to the EU / RF are approximately 50/50 divided.
        2. Svarog51
          Svarog51 30 March 2018 21: 23
          +3
          Zhenya, in vain you are so. Vasco, Vasily, in our opinion, is friends with reason. Do not swear, it is better to find common ground. There are many reasonable and grateful people in Bulgaria. If you wish, I will share observations. hi
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 30 March 2018 21: 26
            +2
            Quote: Svarog51
            Zhenya, in vain you are so. Vasco, Vasily, in our opinion, is friends with reason

            You know, according to these words:
            Quote: Gado
            "kicker" of dicks.

            Quote: Gado
            You are almost all ignoramuses and parrots here

            Quote: Gado
            maybe smarter.

            I doubt very much that he is friendly with reason. request
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 30 March 2018 21: 42
              +6
              Read his comments, do not rush to draw conclusions. I understand him perfectly - he defends his country. Well, others do the same. There are plenty of examples. If you postpone emotions, and do not insult each other - it is quite possible to communicate. I’m not for universal brotherhood, on occasion I can call in, but in this case it’s superfluous. IMHO of course.
              1. Vladimirets
                Vladimirets 30 March 2018 21: 45
                +1
                Quote: Svarog51
                I understand him perfectly - he defends his country. Well, others do the same.

                There are no questions, everyone defends their country and sometimes emotionally and radically, only few people slide down to personal insults. In general, I took a bite for this:
                Quote: Svarog51
                don't insult each other
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 30 March 2018 21: 48
                  +2
                  Yes, I understood, that's why I got in it, that's why I ask you to pay off your emotions. hi
            2. Mac Simka
              Mac Simka 30 March 2018 23: 39
              +2
              Judging by such phrases taken out of context, one can safely say that VO participants are 90% finished ... ignoramuses. Any article about Bulgaria for them is like a red rag for a bull. They rush and start twisting the barrel organ.
              You need to think, think.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 31 March 2018 09: 02
                0
                Quote: Mac Simka
                Judging by such phrases taken out of context, one can safely say that VO participants are 90% finished ... ignoramuses. Any article about Bulgaria for them is like a red rag for a bull. They rush and start twisting the barrel organ.

                Friendly, and if I just wrote "ignoramus" would it be less offensive?
                As for the barrel organ, you are somewhat right. Yes, in many respects we repeat.
                But where are we wrong?
                The fact that, on the whole, people friendly to the Russians hung a pro-Western leadership on their necks? The fact that Bulgaria with a suggestive regularity rushes from the arms of Russia into the arms of its enemies?
          2. Gado
            Gado 30 March 2018 21: 40
            +6
            When I see what some people write here, it’s just anger that they don’t know me live. I deeply respect the Russian people for what they did for the Bulgarians, but comments like "they fought against the Russians" indicate directly the ignorance of the facts, which infuriates even more.
            Thank you, Sergey, for the good words. I hope that the time will come and everyone will find out what the Bulgarian people think on these fictitious charges - Skripali, East Guta, gas, oil, etc.
            Good luck!
            1. poquello
              poquello 30 March 2018 22: 15
              +1
              Quote: Gado
              I hope that the time will come and everyone will find out what the Bulgarian people think on these fictitious charges - Skripali, East Guta, gas, oil, etc.

              hope, hope, have you heard about the draft consensus lifting on EU decisions? soon you’ll lose statehood, well, this is upstairs, and so I’m glad that you and the Bulgarian people are with us
      2. Russia
        Russia 30 March 2018 21: 14
        +5
        Quote: Gado
        Oh, the kicker of dicks. You are almost all ignoramuses and parrots here, but when it comes to kicking, you are already there. Read the stats and don’t write garbage, maybe you’ll be smarter.

        And what are we talking about here, guest overseas? Totally beached the coast? Look for the ignoramus in your area, but don’t stick your nose in here, there are enough nerves here without you.
        1. Gado
          Gado 30 March 2018 21: 22
          +12
          And what do you think, I’m non-Russian and you can blame me for everyone, so what? I didn’t get on that, and you yourself know that half of the permanent residents of VO are frankly illiterate. And in the end I’ll tell you - I can leave this place so as not to spoil your world of the “chosen ones”, but people like you will still be small people and bores. I apologize for the tone, but it boiled.
          1. nesvobodnye
            nesvobodnye 30 March 2018 21: 29
            +3
            So it is well attached)
          2. Russia
            Russia 30 March 2018 21: 29
            +4
            Quote: Gado
            And what do you think, I’m non-Russian and you can blame me for everyone, so what? I didn’t get on that, and you yourself know that half of the permanent residents of VO are frankly illiterate. And in the end I’ll tell you - I can leave this place so as not to spoil your world of the “chosen ones”, but people like you will still be small people and bores. I apologize for the tone, but it boiled.

            Man, look for offenders in your environment, and on such "small people" all of Russia is holding on, and there are enough bores everywhere. Health to you hi
            1. Gado
              Gado 30 March 2018 22: 55
              +3
              And to you that, I do not melt evil at anyone, when I see injustice, I try to respond on occasion, and so it turned out what happened. Good luck!
            2. Terenin
              Terenin 31 March 2018 07: 53
              +6
              Quote: Rusland
              Man, look for offenders in your environment, and on such "small people" all of Russia is holding on, and there are enough bores everywhere. Health to you

              Greetings my friend hi That's how our closest neighbors understand us. If they are against Russia, then they say nothing is wrong, we will suffer such circumstances. And, as soon as the situation (circumstances) changes, we again approach the Russians with a smile and they will forgive ... I think this is partly true. Great power, as Russia is doomed to this (to generosity). Germany, for example, in the Second World War should be like Afghanistan after Genghis Khan, but no, everyone is healthy (we left and left all the infrastructure) ... well, and many other examples ...
              1. Russia
                Russia 31 March 2018 17: 45
                +4
                Quote: Terenin
                Quote: Rusland
                Man, look for offenders in your environment, and on such "small people" all of Russia is holding on, and there are enough bores everywhere. Health to you

                Greetings my friend hi That's how our closest neighbors understand us. If they are against Russia, then they say nothing is wrong, we will suffer such circumstances. And, as soon as the situation (circumstances) changes, we again approach the Russians with a smile and they will forgive ... I think this is partly true. Great power, as Russia is doomed to this (to generosity). Germany, for example, in the Second World War should be like Afghanistan after Genghis Khan, but no, everyone is healthy (we left and left all the infrastructure) ... well, and many other examples ...

                Gena, my friend, glad to hear from you hi Totally agree drinks
          3. NN52
            NN52 30 March 2018 21: 43
            +3
            Gado

            Dear, if you have a honest hand, please answer, did you drink some alcohol today?
            My question is no catch.
            To understand your aggressive state.
            1. Gado
              Gado 30 March 2018 23: 01
              +4
              Are you very interested in what I drink? I rarely drink, mostly strong drinks - brandy, vodka, whiskey. Already at the wrong age to abuse. He drank his when he was young, enough for two.
              And to understand my aggressive state, read above and everything will become clear to you.
              1. NN52
                NN52 30 March 2018 23: 20
                +2
                Gado
                I was not interested in what you are drinking, but the fact itself ..
                For my father, he is in years, three glasses are enough, and political topics rushed to the scandal ,,,
                Very similar to today's version ...
                No offense, I respect old age.
          4. cats
            cats 31 March 2018 08: 19
            +3
            Quote: Gado
            I apologize for the tone, but it boiled.

            In this comment, the whole point of the debate.
            Of course I will be rude, I will call you ignoramuses,
            then slightly apologize and just try to be offended by me .. laughing fool
            1. Russia
              Russia 31 March 2018 20: 09
              +3
              Quote: Kotovsky
              Quote: Gado
              I apologize for the tone, but it boiled.

              In this comment, the whole point of the debate.
              Of course I will be rude, I will call you ignoramuses,
              then slightly apologize and just try to be offended by me .. laughing fool

              Hello Konstantin hi All right smile
              1. cats
                cats 31 March 2018 20: 13
                +2
                Quote: Rusland
                Hello

                Good evening. For Jews today a warning shlopotal .. winked
                Yes, Bulgarian krakasyabry broke their head ..
                The evening was a success. laughing
                1. Russia
                  Russia 31 March 2018 20: 59
                  +3
                  Accurate Konstantin smile There is here on the site who nannies moonlighting, but for the guests of hamovatye sneakers, under a plausible excuse, they will wipe. hi
                2. Taisa
                  Taisa April 3 2018 20: 10
                  +1
                  people should be divided not by nationality, but by mind and kindness ..
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik 30 March 2018 22: 20
          +8
          Quote: Rusland
          Quote: Gado
          Oh, the kicker of dicks. You are almost all ignoramuses and parrots here, but when it comes to kicking, you are already there. Read the stats and don’t write garbage, maybe you’ll be smarter.

          And what are we talking about here, guest overseas? Totally beached the coast? Look for the ignoramus in your area, but don’t stick your nose in here, there are enough nerves here without you.

          You have beguiled the shores, do not be rude to their guests and there is so little left. A person is trying to find something in general, moreover, very politely and without concern, what are you doing? I accept the guest!
          1. Russia
            Russia 31 March 2018 20: 05
            +3
            Quote: lis-ik
            Quote: Rusland
            Quote: Gado
            Oh, the kicker of dicks. You are almost all ignoramuses and parrots here, but when it comes to kicking, you are already there. Read the stats and don’t write garbage, maybe you’ll be smarter.

            And what are we talking about here, guest overseas? Totally beached the coast? Look for the ignoramus in your area, but don’t stick your nose in here, there are enough nerves here without you.

            You have beguiled the shores, do not be rude to their guests and there is so little left. A person is trying to find something in general, moreover, very politely and without concern, what are you doing? I accept the guest!

            The guest, the guest is hostile, even if he behaves appropriately hi
        3. Mac Simka
          Mac Simka 30 March 2018 23: 43
          +2
          Dear, the nervous ones are better turned to Bekhterevka. Or at least drank valerian.
      3. Cutter
        Cutter 30 March 2018 21: 30
        +6
        You are almost all ignoramuses and parrots here, but when it comes to "kicking", you are already right there

        Do we communicate with a doctor of near-milking sciences ???? What right do you have to draw such conclusions without knowing the level, quantity or quality of education ???
        I recently kicked the Bulgarians upon their decision to send diplomats. I admit a mistake, I was wrong. recourse

        The man himself admitted his mistake and wrong, if he did not, no one would remember, and you begin to be rude to him! Not good... negative
      4. SevaNikolaev
        SevaNikolaev 30 March 2018 23: 25
        +1
        Quote: Gado
        Oh, the kicker of dicks. You are almost all ignoramuses and parrots here, but when it comes to kicking, you are already there. Read the stats and don’t write garbage, maybe you’ll be smarter.


        Why do you call Bulgarians "craps", I hurt my brothers .....
    4. TT1968
      TT1968 30 March 2018 21: 20
      +7
      "I recently kicked the Bulgarians by their decision to send diplomats .."
      How can you kick someone for something he didn’t do ???
      Bulgaria DO NOT SEND THE RUSSIAN DIPLOMATS !!! Bulgaria recalled ambassador in Moscow "for
      consultations. "Today, after a meeting of the National Security Council under President R. Radev, it was UNANIMOUSLY decided to NOT extradite ANYONE! As Prime Minister Borisov said:
      "Until we see unambiguous evidence of the fault of Russia, IF SUCH EXIST !!!"
      And the ambassador recalled "for consultation" will be RETURNED in Moscow after the Easter holidays.
      As for "bend / not bend, I also think that they will find a sore point which to press.
      It's a question of time. God forbid that he would not give up without a fight and have time to bargain at least something ...
      Although ... hardly negative
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 31 March 2018 03: 59
        0
        ...It's a question of time. God forbid that he would not give up without a fight and have time to bargain at least something ...

        So you support that did not give up. Do you know how to do this? hi
  3. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 30 March 2018 20: 11
    +5
    We must wait for the terrorist attack in Bulgaria .. (God forbid, of course), but they will certainly be punished. Not so that way.
    But, frankly, even so they resist. Already good.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 30 March 2018 20: 14
      +2
      Can a Bulgarian in England “Newcomer” be allowed to sniff? God forbid, of course.
      Quote: CAT BAYUN
      We must wait for the terrorist attack in Bulgaria .. (God forbid, of course), but they will certainly be punished. Not so that way.
      But, frankly, even so they resist. Already good.
      1. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 30 March 2018 20: 28
        +4
        Can a Bulgarian in England “Newcomer” be allowed to sniff?

        They will give, they won’t give a question, but they’ll just get some kind of disgust towards Bulgaria ... From these it will become apparent .. The trend is being traced .. As soon as someone from the sub-mattress pool starts to look towards Russia, something very quickly happens that returns the limotroph to stall...
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 31 March 2018 04: 02
          +1
          So, Bulgaria alone wasn’t touched by diplomats - and even the states did not have enough hands to do all the nasty things. hi
          The Portuguese just surprised ...
  4. Slovak
    Slovak 30 March 2018 20: 13
    +3
    Democracy, however. With a whip and a printing press
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 30 March 2018 20: 15
      +2
      Quote: Slovak
      With a whip and a printing press

      With a whip and sticks, in a democratic world everyone has equal opportunities.
  5. zart_arn
    zart_arn 30 March 2018 20: 14
    +2
    “Out of solidarity with Britain”

    And who is Britain? belay
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 30 March 2018 20: 14
      +6
      Quote: zart_arn
      And who is Britain?

      Diagnosis. yes
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 30 March 2018 20: 37
        +6
        Hi countryman hi
        Diagnosis.

        Chronic. He is treated in only one way. repeat Face about the table - it doesn’t come in any other way. wink
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 30 March 2018 20: 41
          +4
          Quote: Svarog51
          Face about the table - it doesn’t come in any other way.

          Informed sources report that the "Starichok" is being developed. bully Hi, comrade. hi
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 30 March 2018 21: 27
            +3
            What is it? According to our soul? Nah, I do not agree. Let them call it anything, just not like that. negative
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 30 March 2018 21: 31
              +1
              Quote: Svarog51
              What is it? According to our soul? Nah, I do not agree. Let them call it anything, just not like that.

              The "beginner" burnt, why should he take something from him, from the "beginner"? But when a "old man" is found, all the data points to Burundi as a country of origin. yes
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 30 March 2018 21: 54
                +3
                I now what? "Chipmunk"? crying
                1. a housewife
                  a housewife 31 March 2018 11: 36
                  +1
                  Ah ha ha! Sometimes it's so much fun !!! good drinks laughing
        2. NN52
          NN52 30 March 2018 21: 31
          +1
          Svarog51

          Regarding the face about the table, I support ... An effective method, and not only for foreigners ...
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 30 March 2018 21: 52
            +1
            Dmitriy hi This does not concern everyone. I did not have time to extinguish the fire - now I am not able to stop the fire. Mutual accusations and picks will begin, but it could have been different. Did not have time.
    2. Avis-bis
      Avis-bis 30 March 2018 20: 24
      +4
      Quote: zart_arn
      “Out of solidarity with Britain”

      And who is Britain? belay

      Isotope polonium?
  6. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 30 March 2018 20: 15
    +2
    Many Bulgarians have a strong cultural affinity for Russia, with which they share Cyrillic and Orthodox Christianity.

    Government is not a people. If the government goes against the people, he will not live long.
    1. tank66
      tank66 30 March 2018 21: 26
      0
      I absolutely agree with the first phrase. And not only I / the famous: they are terribly far from the people /. About the second - I doubt it: take Russia, the liberals at the helm - have they not healed?
      1. poquello
        poquello 30 March 2018 21: 48
        0
        Quote: tank66
        I absolutely agree with the first phrase. And not only I / the famous: they are terribly far from the people /. About the second - I doubt it: take Russia, the liberals at the helm - have they not healed?

        and to think how far they themselves are from the people?
  7. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 30 March 2018 20: 24
    0
    The Bulgarians put forward their version:
    -heck! I forgot! Botox! Botulism toxin in a snack! By the way, refers to chemical warfare agents!
    Or maybe a white toadstool in a jar with salty breasts ...
    Russian woman died in Crete, eating poisonous mushrooms July 9. 2017 ...- Doctors said that a 41-year-old woman was poisoned with mushrooms before her vacation. Her husband was taken to hospital in serious condition the day before for the same reason. The couple sent their children home with the assistance of the Russian Embassy.
    But they walked past the BBC, CNN ... Ah!
  8. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 30 March 2018 20: 31
    0
    Oh well, oh well. You can’t be fooled. The former brothers simply decided to maximize their profit. Nobody believes in their sincerity.
    1. Mac Simka
      Mac Simka 30 March 2018 23: 45
      +2
      C'mon, gullible, go take a rest while the adults are here.
    2. Taisa
      Taisa April 3 2018 20: 20
      0
      Used to fight with the whole world? Read such komenty and think about it ...
  9. afrikanez
    afrikanez 30 March 2018 20: 32
    0
    And their "solidarity" is good, under pressure! So also the whole world trumpeted her. It seems that all this "solidarity" in the near future, such disappointment awaits, but it will be too late. fool
  10. Masya masya
    Masya masya 30 March 2018 20: 37
    +5
    maybe everything is much simpler, just bargaining ??? the pressure of Landon and the states is not Khuhra Muhra ...
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 30 March 2018 21: 23
      +1
      Quote: Masya Masya
      maybe everything is much simpler, just bargaining ??? the pressure of Landon and the states is not Khuhra Muhra ...

      They solve their problems at their expense, it’s quite possible, but then it’s a plus for the Bulgarians, because they can buy something later with these funds .... yes
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 30 March 2018 21: 36
        +6
        note that they don’t press on Austria like that ... Bulgaria is a weak link! wink
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 30 March 2018 21: 44
          +1
          Quote: Masya Masya
          note that they don’t press on Austria like that ... Bulgaria is a weak link! wink

          Yes it is, but Austria is not touched, there the Aryans of the German bourgeoisie .... lol
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 31 March 2018 11: 39
            +2
            Yes, among all this European gang, Austria alone is respected !!!
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 31 March 2018 11: 44
              +1
              Quote: housewife
              Yes, among all this European gang, Austria alone is respected !!!

              Yes, Austria has always been a special country in Europe ... love hi
              Austria is a Central European country with imperial history, Baroque architecture, mountain villages and an alpine landscape. The official language is German.
        2. Taisa
          Taisa April 3 2018 20: 22
          0
          appraisers, they themselves would try to survive.
  11. samarin1969
    samarin1969 30 March 2018 20: 53
    +3
    In times of empire, rarely are any countries allowing themselves an independent policy. Bulgarians can be understood. ... The fact that the political leadership has not yet supported the demarche is more likely due to internal reasons. The "annoyance" of the British media is exaggerated. Less naive people sit there than many commentators. They know about the historical and energy ties between our countries and peoples.
    More importantly, neither Radev nor Borisov are faithful to the EU and NATO. Everything - the rest is a ritual chatter of diplomats and journalists. In the case of "wall to wall" - the Bulgarians will be in the camp of the enemy.
    1. pytar
      pytar 30 March 2018 21: 33
      +11
      In the case of "wall to wall" - the Bulgarians will be in the camp of the enemy.

      They won’t be Konstantin, they won’t ... hi
      In 2017, they refused to shoot even at the dummies of Russian soldiers during exercises in Romania.
      In 2015, they refused to accept the American missile defense system into their territory. Now she is in Romania.
      In 2016, they categorically refused to participate in the formed anti-Russian Black Sea flotilla of NAT and so buried the entire project.

      Ultimately, NATO began to call the Bulgarians "Trojan horse Moscow"! Wherever it is necessary to take serious anti-Russian actions, the Bulgarians go against the clock! bully
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 30 March 2018 21: 58
        +1
        Quote: pytar
        They won’t be Konstantin, they won’t ...

        Ministry of Energy of Bulgaria allocated 601,6 million euros to pay off Russia's debt - December 7 2016 The Bulgarian Ministry of Energy on Tuesday allocated 601,6 million euros to the National Electric Company (NEC) to pay off the debt of the Russian company Atomstroyexport in connection with the termination of the Belene NPP project.
        This is when the pressure was much stronger than now. To be responsible for one’s interests and affairs, which is much stronger than going round dance with “friends”. hi
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        2. pytar
          pytar 31 March 2018 00: 27
          +5
          Ministry of Energy of Bulgaria allocated 601,6 million euros to pay off Russia's debt - December 7 2016

          Yes, it began to build NPPs in 80! The most unfinished in Bulgaria! Then they counted on increasing energy consumption and exports! Then in 90 they reinstalled due to lack of money. They started, they refused. Ultimately, they ditched billions of dollars in this Egyptian pyramid and stopped building! In 2006, the lobby of Rosatom Snyh rolled over the project and the contract was re-signed. While investing hundreds of millions more, it became clear that at the current level of energy consumption, the central office would not be able to earn a profit. At one point we were in a stalemate! Continue construction - lose billions of euros! Refuse - pay 600-700 millions of euros. They decided to refuse. And in between, they are looking for alternative solutions. I believe it will still be completed, though not soon.
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 31 March 2018 11: 40
            +3
            90s, they are! What was not abandoned, then dismantled.
      2. samarin1969
        samarin1969 30 March 2018 22: 25
        +5
        Quote: pytar
        In the case of "wall to wall" - the Bulgarians will be in the camp of the enemy.

        They won’t be Konstantin, they won’t ... hi
        In 2017, they refused to shoot even at the dummies of Russian soldiers during exercises in Romania.
        In 2015, they refused to accept the American missile defense system into their territory. Now she is in Romania.
        In 2016, they categorically refused to participate in the formed anti-Russian Black Sea flotilla of NAT and so buried the entire project.

        Ultimately, NATO began to call the Bulgarians "Trojan horse Moscow"! Wherever it is necessary to take serious anti-Russian actions, the Bulgarians go against the clock! bully

        May God grant, dear Boyan, that peace be between our peoples, God grant .... hi
        In Crimea, now Russians, Ukrainians, Bulgarians, Armenians, Jews, Greeks and other peoples live quite peacefully .....
        1. pytar
          pytar 31 March 2018 00: 18
          +8
          May God grant, dear Boyan, that peace be between our peoples, God grant ....

          So it will be Dear Constantine! Even here in VO there are signs! The Bulgarianophobia has become aggravated! laughing It is caused by the warming between our countries! And our peoples are already fraternal! good
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 31 March 2018 05: 03
            +3
            Even here in VO there are signs! The Bulgarianophobia has become aggravated! laughing It is caused by the warming between our countries! And our peoples are already fraternal!

            Boyan hi A metaphor, but I think you will like it. VO is this "neutral band."
  12. Old26
    Old26 30 March 2018 20: 56
    +2
    Quote: Greg Miller
    if Russia’s response is toothless, it will join "the entire civilized world" ...

    Do you think the "SLR" is "toothless"? We send more than a hundred and many seem to regret that they succumbed to pressure. But this is their problem

    Quote: CAT BAYUN
    We must wait for the terrorist attack in Bulgaria .. (God forbid, of course), but they will certainly be punished. Not so that way.
    But, frankly, even so they resist. Already good.

    But not only Bulgaria did not expel from NATO. Greece, for example, also did not send, Turkey sent on a long erotic journey and London and Brussels
    1. poquello
      poquello 30 March 2018 21: 53
      0
      Quote: Old26
      But not only Bulgaria did not expel from NATO. Greece, for example, also did not send, Turkey sent on a long erotic journey and London and Brussels

      the Austrians have been forgotten, pride takes me straight, especially against the backdrop of a dispute here with the German about Austria as a region of Germany
  13. Gado
    Gado 30 March 2018 21: 05
    +4
    Well unsubscribed, Bulgarianophobia, well, crap with you.
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 30 March 2018 21: 28
      +4
      Yes, calm down, colleague. We have maximalists, they are offended. After all, they are trying to humiliate our homeland. Here it is necessary to communicate with a cold head. And you answer. I remember an article in which NATO shooting was described and the Bulgarians refused to shoot at targets representing Russian soldiers. All Bulgarian forum users were proud of this fact. I personally tell you and your country Thank you for that and thank you for the delay in making a decision on the present. Although I Pyator assumed that they would put pressure on you too.
      1. Gado
        Gado 30 March 2018 21: 46
        +4
        Yes, I’m tired of being silent, I hope you understand, it’s just that there’s no such day, and here too they’re blaming them for nothing, for nothing. Wait calm down and everything will be the way. smile
        1. Taisa
          Taisa April 3 2018 20: 35
          +1
          Basco !! Imagine that your offenders also have a bad day and they are on the platoon ..
          Never mind. We are doomed to friendship anyway, because for a long time we were friends and understood each other. You will see.
    2. Svarog51
      Svarog51 30 March 2018 21: 29
      +2
      Basil, do not be offended. Anything can happen. And excuses too.
    3. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 30 March 2018 21: 34
      +2
      No, well, there are also normal comments ...
    4. Matroskin
      Matroskin 30 March 2018 22: 16
      +4
      I'm not a frequent writer, more often a reader. A lot on the site became inadequate comrades. Apparently not a calm environment presses on the brain. So exhale hi
      1. Gado
        Gado 30 March 2018 23: 11
        +4
        Are you hinting about the "Chukchi reader, the Chukchi is not a writer"? drinks
        You are right, of course, you should not "go wild" as they wrote above, but sometimes I can’t stand it. Huh, exhaled. smile
        1. Matroskin
          Matroskin 30 March 2018 23: 19
          +4
          Good. But Pasaran drinks
          1. Mac Simka
            Mac Simka 30 March 2018 23: 49
            +5
            Nah, not No passran, a guys let's live together (c).
            1. Matroskin
              Matroskin 30 March 2018 23: 51
              +4
              Yes, I mean, that not internationalists will not pass))
    5. XXXIII
      XXXIII 30 March 2018 22: 24
      +3
      Quote: Gado
      Well unsubscribed, Bulgarianophobia, well, crap with you.

      Yes, there are enough phobes, they all work in different directions .... laughing
  14. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 March 2018 21: 10
    0
    Yes not really? Aren't I really so wrong about the "little brothers"? Or gas smell? No, you need to wait a pause! laughing
  15. flicker
    flicker 30 March 2018 21: 27
    +1
    As footballers stand in the wall, especially those on the right.
  16. ibirus
    ibirus 30 March 2018 21: 31
    0
    Selling after some time.
  17. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 30 March 2018 21: 38
    +2
    I do not believe the Bulgarians, something is connected with gas ....

    Turkey doesn’t send ours! lol
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 30 March 2018 22: 18
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I do not believe the Bulgarians, something is connected with gas .... Turkey, it does not send ours!

      According to the publication, changes in the route of the gas pipeline were discussed at the Turkish Ministry of Energy, after which Bulgaria was informed at a high level, which has already begun preparations for the project.
      Later, Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov also confirmed this information to journalists, adding that the President of the European Council Donald Tusk and the head of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker also know about this.
      “In the office of Juncker lies precisely such a scheme of the Turkish Stream,” said the Bulgarian Prime Minister.

      He recalled that Russian gas is currently flowing to Turkey through Ukraine and Bulgaria, but with the launch of the Turkish Stream, transit along these routes will be stopped.
      “In order not to leave the pipes empty, we agreed with the leadership of Turkey and with President Vladimir Putin, we agreed on the transit of 10 billion cubic meters of gas for Serbia and 1 billion cubic meters for Macedonia. By July 1, 2018, our interconnector with Turkey with a volume of 16 billion cubic meters should be ready, ”Borisov said.

      When asked whether there is a possibility that the Turkish Stream will follow the route of the South Stream gas pipeline project and reach Varna, Boyko Borisov noted: “We are working in such a way as to direct it directly to the gas hub.”

      He explained that this is not about gas transit through Bulgaria, but about trading it through a gas hub near Varna, which will have to receive fuel both from the Turkish Stream gas pipeline, and from Romania, Greece, and even from fields being developed so far Bulgarian shelf of the Black Sea.

      “It is there that trade will be carried out, and from there gas will be delivered through our highways to Thessaloniki, Skopje, Belgrade and further to Hungary and Austria,” Borisov said.

      https://regnum.ru/news/2357709.html
    2. Svarog51
      Svarog51 30 March 2018 22: 32
      +4
      Vitaliy, hi Have you carefully read the news? London tripped over Sofia's decisionso why roll on the Bulgarians? Do you not know about this?
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 30 March 2018 22: 43
        +1
        Serge hi The bully Vitaly, however, warned everyone if he wasn’t responsible for himself. laughing .... But the main thing is that everything that says is simple and intelligible. Good grip .... yes
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 31 March 2018 05: 06
          +4
          Volodya hi So it is not in vain that he bears the honorary title - "Site Talisman" good
  18. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 30 March 2018 22: 06
    -1
    Quote: 210ox
    Can a Bulgarian in England “Newcomer” be allowed to sniff? God forbid, of course.
    Quote: CAT BAYUN
    We must wait for the terrorist attack in Bulgaria .. (God forbid, of course), but they will certainly be punished. Not so that way.
    But, frankly, even so they resist. Already good.

    No, they won’t. They will simply offer to set the Reichstag on fire !!!
  19. Hiller
    Hiller 30 March 2018 22: 13
    0
    Bulgarians surprised .. but for how long?
  20. Old26
    Old26 30 March 2018 22: 17
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN
    I do not believe the Bulgarians, something is connected with gas ....

    Turkey doesn’t send ours! lol

    Vitalik! And in Greece, with what is connected, among the Portuguese or the Austrians? Is everyone with gas?
  21. sabakina
    sabakina 30 March 2018 22: 22
    +3
    Apparently, the pressure on Bulgaria from London and Washington will only increase.

    Apparently, it will be even worse. The war is no longer just knocking on the door, it is already knocking them out. Breaking news on the news line: "Aeroflot's plane was searched in London!"
  22. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 30 March 2018 22: 22
    +22
    Bulgarians well done
    1. Mac Simka
      Mac Simka 30 March 2018 23: 51
      +3
      Honor and respect to you hi
      1. cats
        cats 31 March 2018 08: 29
        +2
        For which the cuckoo praises the cock ..
        For praising the cuckoo ..
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    1. Gado
      Gado 30 March 2018 23: 16
      +2
      Quote: NN52
      Dear, if you have a honest hand, please answer, did you drink some alcohol today?
      My question is no catch.
      To understand your aggressive state.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 31 March 2018 04: 11
        +1
        You saw his picture. What to take with this? hi
    2. Mac Simka
      Mac Simka 30 March 2018 23: 53
      +2
      Idiots decided not to ptvechat, but let me say that your comment is rudeness of pure water.
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  25. Amper
    Amper 30 March 2018 22: 48
    +1
    Quote: Some Compote
    Bulgarians well done

    Gyyyyyyyy !!!!! 111
    Change the euro into rubles! GYYYYYY!
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  27. Tarasios
    Tarasios 30 March 2018 23: 34
    +1
    Quote: Andrey K
    For the most part, the people are pro-Russian, the elite on the Kukan are among NATO partners.
    Trite trying to sit on two chairs, waiting for someone to take.


    Are you talking about Bulgaria or Belarus right now? lol
  28. Antor
    Antor 31 March 2018 00: 26
    +1
    Boyan! Even before visiting Bulgaria, I watched the film "Dacians" - it was your ancestors who fought for their freedom and independence with the Roman legions, sent to you by the insatiable, powerful and corrupted Roman Empire !!!!! And we were very worried about the Dacians, as for our own, for the Slavs !!! For those who want to enslave !!!
    Well, is it impossible to understand and support with all my heart! The Russian Empire, the Russians, represented by our descendants in fact with many of their lives, have helped you defend your independence on Shipka from another empire of the time, the Ottoman !!! Did you feel bad during the USSR, were you oppressed or your independence taken away ???
    For many centuries of your history, which you are rightly proud of, why are you so hostile to us, as evidenced by the 1st and 2nd World Wars, where YOU were our enemies and not allies !! ??? Why do you pay us so much, for what sins and faults !! ??? And why did your people, who so quickly love to take offense at the words of the patriarch, again ran to their oppressors over centuries of history !! ??? You even ended up in a single NATO-Turkey bloc ...! ??? Can you answer why the monument to Alyosha, YOU, even before the USSR, not to mention after, was desecrated more than once — what did I see with my own eyes and where did these sources of hatred for Russian liberators from fascism come from ?? And the question is not idle, with whom will you go to fight at Mig-29 !! ?? Even it is necessary to die in a Christian way, not lacquering and not serving the world regional committee, betraying its Slav brothers !!!
    And one can understand not the respect and frustration of the Russians towards those in Bulgaria who pursue such an unfriendly policy towards Russia and its people, sometimes shooting themselves in the foot, as was the case with the South Stream and not only !!
    You don’t take offense at us anymore — you will figure out who you want to be Russia — a good neighbor, or again on your own or someone else’s will — her enemy !! ???
    1. Matroskin
      Matroskin 31 March 2018 02: 01
      +10
      Kamrad! If you are interested in the opinion of the Bulgarians, read the Bulgarian forums or information sites and comments. Fortunately, the language is understandable, and the translator works. http://www.pan.bg sometimes read.
      In our own country, monuments are desecrated by young people. First you need to understand within yourself, and then call on the brothers.
      At the moment, an ideologically and economically weak, rotten system does not attract anyone. Connects only the memory of generations. As soon as Russia behaved independently, voices of support immediately arose ... And our task is to propose something more significant than resistance at our own borders. And not a good Russian to blame for disappointment in someone. This Russia is great, this Russia can take protection ... it’s their disappointment in us, it’s in the 90s that we betrayed the Balkans. And we can offer something more, but you need to start with yourself, inside you need to become the Whole.
      To this day, I have only been an observer, "read" and very annoyed by the eternal confrontation between the "Communists" and the "whites." Yes, wake up already, you are all history, our Russian history. Heights and vectors here and now. At the moment, it is necessary to build a society of Justice, Justice for all. Russia has gone an unthinkable path. In my opinion, we already have vaccinations for everything. And do not use this experience, this is a crime.
      1. cats
        cats 31 March 2018 08: 34
        +2
        Quote: Matroskin
        we in the 90s betrayed the Balkans

        Quote: Matroskin
        This Russia is great, this Russia can take protection

        Is that our duty?
        Betrayed .. As the language then turns ..
        Quote: Matroskin
        And we can offer something more, but you need to start with yourself, inside you need to become the Whole.

        Maybe they will offer us something?
    2. pytar
      pytar 31 March 2018 13: 38
      +2
      Antor, I personally gave explanations many times in view of the completely absurd misunderstanding of our relations with the majority of Russians.
      Even before visiting Bulgaria, I watched the film "Dacians" - these were your ancestors who fought for their freedom and independence with the Roman legions

      Dacians are tribes living north of the Danube. They are most likely the ancestors of the Romanians. They are not related to the Bulgarians. The film you watched is romanian. The genetics of today's Bulgarians have a strong Thracian influence, but the current Bulgarians are still Slavic people.
      The Russian Empire, the Russians, represented by our descendants in fact, with many of their lives, have helped you defend your independence on Shipka ...! Did you feel bad during the USSR, were you oppressed or your independence taken away ???

      We undoubtedly appreciate this fact and it is at the heart of our brotherhood! You should not take information from the media. There is a lot of negativity and distortion. As for the USSR and socialism, Bulgar. society is very divided in their opinions. From the perspective of time, it becomes clear that during this period Bulgaria developed economically but also paid a huge mental price. Current problems are largely rooted in those days.
      For many centuries of your history, which you are rightly proud of, why are you so hostile to us, what is the evidence of the 1 and 2 World Wars, where YOU were our enemies and not allies !!?

      Your emotional judgment is the result of ignorance of the facts and the result of interpretations of the media. Bulgarians have never been hostile to Russians! Even now, Bulgaria remains, according to opinion polls, the most Russophile country in the EU! As for the 1-mv, you entered into an alliance with our worst century-old enemies and sent them to the corps on the Bulgarian territory for help! If you came to kill me and my children, I will defend myself to death! No matter who you are! In 2-mv - the situation in which Bulgaria found itself was very difficult. In 41, the USSR and Germany had a non-aggression pact. In Europe there was not a single country opposing Germany with the exclusion of Great Britain. Bulgaria was between 600 thousand. German and 500 thousand. turkish army. We had to either enter the Axis or be matched with a world map. As a member of the Axis, Bulgaria was the only country that did not participate in the war against the USSR. Standards were maintained. deep relations with the USSR. And from September 44, Bulgaria declared war on Germany and half a million Bulgarian army fought along with the Red Army.
      You even ended up in a single NATO-Turkey bloc ...! ???

      In the absence of another alternative, joining NATO played the role of a defense against Turkey itself. After the 90s, the Russian Federation never gave a guarantee to protect the territorial integrity of Bulgaria.
      Can you answer why the monument to Alyosha, YOU, even before the USSR, not to mention after, was desecrated more than once — what did I see with my own eyes and where did these sources of hatred for Russian liberators from fascism come from ??

      1. Bulgaria is the record holder for built memorials in honor of Russia and the USSR. There are more of them 530 / 400 - Russia, 130-USSR /. Come night and sprinkle some kind of a monument from the bottle case for 3 min. No one will notice! Custom shares financed by someone else ...
      2. You confuse Russians with Soviet. This is not the same for us. We love Russians, but not so much for the Communists ... Therefore, there is a well-known rejection of the symbols of communism. All these monuments built by us and for our money. In Bulgaria, the Red Army did not conduct military operations and we do not have any dead Soviet soldiers. But do not worry! Monuments are already under special protection of the law and are national historical sites!
      And the question is not idle, with whom will you go to fight at Mig-29 !! ??

      With those who turn up in our country with unkind intentions!
      And one can understand not the respect and frustration of the Russians towards those in Bulgaria who pursue such an unfriendly policy towards Russia and its people, sometimes shooting themselves in the foot, as was the case with the South Stream and not only !!

      I understand them, because I constantly read and watch rus-media. It presents a picture that has little in common with reality. It’s exactly like UP that replicates more misinformation with you. I personally worked 4 on this project from the Bulgarian side and I am amazed how everyone is distorting it in Russian media!
      You don’t take offense at us anymore — you will figure out who you want to be Russia — a good neighbor, or again on your own or someone else’s will — her enemy !! ???

      With such a Russia, for all our desires, it will be difficult for us to find a common language. What you reproach us with, much more valid for you! Deal with your affairs, clean out your garden and then I think everything will be fine! I wish you good health and success!
      1. Dry
        Dry 31 March 2018 16: 11
        +1
        Quote: pytar
        I understand them, because I constantly read and watch rus-media. It presents a picture that has little in common with reality. It’s exactly like UP that replicates more misinformation with you. I personally worked 4 on this project from the Bulgarian side and I am amazed how everyone is distorting it in Russian media!

        Please tell me your version without distortion.
        1. pytar
          pytar April 1 2018 13: 54
          +2
          Please tell me your version without distortion.

          I have given comments on occasion many times. I do not want to repeat again. Go to my page and read, if interested. They are in the public domain. hi
    3. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny April 1 2018 19: 05
      +2
      A colleague, but Pyatr correctly pointed you to the film Ducky. Filmed by the Romanians, the famous Sergiu Nikolaescu, commissar Miklovan remember? Why would the Romanians make a film about the Bulgarians? Dacians are the ancestors of the Romanians, the ancestors turned out to be better than the descendants. By the way, Nikolaescu himself (land rest in peace) was a shifter in life. He had everything from Ceausescu, he used it, during the coup he began to pour mud on him.
  29. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 31 March 2018 00: 27
    +3
    Thank you Bulgarians!
  30. Alberr
    Alberr 31 March 2018 00: 32
    0
    high season on the nose you understand and not so upset
  31. Zomanus
    Zomanus 31 March 2018 01: 17
    +1
    Perhaps bargaining will begin now.
    And when they agree on the conditions. then they will expel our diplomats.
  32. Hiss
    Hiss 31 March 2018 01: 42
    +5
    Not good to discuss the next "khataskrayniks"? Now they wanted to spit both on the common history, and on the sacrifices in the name of "Orthodox Slavic souls", and on Orthodoxy itself with the family and soul. They are European. And stop bowing, the Bulgarians are in NATO, which means they are again ready to fire our stoves on orders. Oh no, the "good brother" may not even start driving our grandchildren into the furnace, he will once again shift this to the "Newss", dumping them into the traffic police, for example (well, he will not shoot at the "brothers"), or will remain to work at the plant (and why, at home, and it is not his fault that his product "works in the east"). IMHO - a German and a Turkish brother to them, not Russians!
    PS Do not take my post as bearing hatred of the Bulgarians. May they live well while they live peacefully. Just trying to dot the "i" - Judah onet. Sorry, my ancestors hoped for something else ..
    1. Hiss
      Hiss 31 March 2018 01: 54
      +1
      And yes, on the subject of “bargaining is appropriate”, apparently the little shavers were thrown in, or some people asked so much that they decided to “throw out” without them .. Well, let's see. Good time. Of the world.
    2. Matroskin
      Matroskin 31 March 2018 02: 26
      +6
      And you do not think that "youthful maximalism" is burning in you. We have a question with Ukraine. Oh, it’s not closed, and you want small Bulgaria to “fit in” for us and get Maidanchik with the collapse of an already weak economy. As recently as 10 years ago, we were bowing to the United States. The points over i are now put in governments and the bifurcation point is already close
  33. johnik
    johnik 31 March 2018 03: 40
    +1
    Quote: pytar
    Usually traitors are called that. But if you like it, it's up to you.
    Who calls it? West! Ah ... well, let it be.
    and why not an open alliance with Russia, if you really hate it with all your heart and NATO that you will betray in case of something?. Or just profit?

    There was a union. ATS was called. For half a century Bulgaria was itself a faithful ally of the USSR! The Bulgarian army was the most highly motivated of all the allied armies! And then ... USSR / Russia betrayed us ... left us! Yours started building capitalism and friendship with ... NATA !!! You often chat about betrayal! But for some reason, forget where it all started!
    Bulgaria joined NATO reluctantly and without a referendum. We do not have much sympathy for them. We believe Russians, but not so to Russian politicians ... Cleanse your country, then we will believe. You now have a lot of things, not so.

    Speaking right ! Russia from within is betrayed and sold. This is known about Ukrainians: for 5 lard bought, and for Russia to guess the current. How many boxes of copiers are - only a small fraction ... Once bought, then on the salary of the boss, and must follow orders. And then they pooled, and here are sanctions and tantrums.
  34. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 31 March 2018 05: 03
    0
    Someone already "shook" the test tube !!! - Russia is not Iraq and it is worth knowing that you can’t hide behind the ocean by the Anglo-Saxon beast, the armament is already wrong.
  35. Andrey NM
    Andrey NM 31 March 2018 05: 09
    +3
    Quote: pytar
    Bulgaria joined NATO reluctantly and without a referendum. We do not have much sympathy for them. We believe Russians, but not so to Russian politicians ... Cleanse your country, then we will believe. You now have a lot of things, not so.

    This is beauty. You first understand yourself and clean up. And then you are all to blame, and they themselves are white and fluffy. Understand the power in your country, clean what you want from yourself. On the side of Hitler is not willing, in World War I, too, without desire, the South Stream choking and through force ... And for this you kiss in all places? Those. we will tell you, just don’t be offended, is it all because of the big and pure love that made us? Have you tried to think with your own head? Such friends and advisers are not needed by anyone.
    1. pytar
      pytar 31 March 2018 14: 00
      +1
      First you figure it out and put things in order

      We are doing something! And you do it too! You mess is many times higher!
      And then you are all to blame, and they themselves are white and fluffy. Understand the power in your country, clean what you want from yourself.

      This is exactly 100% applies to the Russian Federation! good
      On the side of Hitler is not willing, in World War I, too, without desire, the South Stream choking and through force ...

      Reluctantly, there was no choice. At that time, the USSR and Germany had a nonaggression pact. We in WWII did not fight against the USSR. Lonely! But for that, with 44, they fought together with the Red Army against the Wehrmacht! And they fought well! Our commander in chief took part in the Victory Parade on Red Square! As for UP, the situation is changing, but so far they will not tell you in the media. Wait, there will be news soon ...
      Have you tried to think with your own head?

      Sooooo useful tip! Take it to you and everything will come to their places! wink
      1. Andrey NM
        Andrey NM 31 March 2018 16: 41
        0
        Quote: pytar
        Reluctantly, there was no choice.

        There is always a choice. Have you heard of the People’s Army of Yugoslavia?
        Quote: pytar
        We in WWII did not fight against the USSR.

        But allied planes shot down regularly. Many times more than later German. Greece was occupied. In 1944, you simply had nowhere to go. If the Germans fled, what resistance could your troops have? At the same time, your army was divided, part remained loyal to the Germans, the other part went under the flags of the allies. All actions of the Bulgarian army were actually aimed at eliminating what you yourself did on the side of Germany. Yes, they did not fight on the eastern front. It was clear what losses Bulgaria would suffer in this case. They took part in the Balaton operation and in a number of operations of local importance. Losses of Bulgaria in WWII - about 30 thousand, on both sides. Compare with the losses of the USSR, Belarus, Ukraine? Even as a percentage of the population.
        Quote: pytar
        We are doing something! And you do it too! You mess is many times higher!

        And what to do? Abandon South Stream? Well, you yourself refused. Enter NATO? Lie under the Americans? What are you doing there? Masturbation? Well go on. And we will understand without you. Want to cooperate, offer. And do not tell us. Russia does not need anything from Bulgaria. The maximum that you can give is poor little resorts, weak wine, some agricultural produce. All. Well, the South Stream corridor. But you can do without it.
        Conversation about nothing. All the same, that the security guard of a large enterprise asks how to manage this enterprise.
        1. pytar
          pytar April 1 2018 14: 33
          +1
          You grossly speculate with the facts! Does not honor you!
          There is always a choice. Have you heard of the People’s Army of Yugoslavia?

          18 millennial Yugoslavia having a millionth ramiya, fell in 11 days under the blows of the Wehrmacht. During the campaign, German troops lost 151 soldiers killed, 14 missing, 392 wounded. 400 Thousands of Belgrade surrendered to 4 German motorcyclist!
          During WWII, 90% of those hundreds of thousands of human losses of the peoples of Yugoslavia were the result of the massacres of the Yugoslavia, which were carried out on an ethnic, religious and ideological basis.
          Question: Why did the USSR not come to help the Yugoslav brothers "in 1941?
          5 million Bulgaria, did not have a combat-ready army at that time. Affected by a long stay under the clauses of the Noya Treaty. By the beginning of the 41, over the country north of the Danube, 600 thousand had hanged. the German army, and from the south to the Bulgarian border approached 500 thousand. turkish army. The Bulgarians could oppose a total of 100 thousand. poorly trained and archaic armed soldiers. In warehouses had shells for training. No ally had Bulgaria at that time.
          Question: If the USSR did not help the Yugoslavs and had a non-aggression pact with Germany, would it help the Bulgarians in the same 1941?
          But allied planes shot down regularly. Many times more than then German.

          These are Anglo-Saxon planes that bombarded Bulgarian cities and villages! Our pilots fought bravely on their old few aircraft. The ratio is almost 1: 10! Our losses were many. I had to ram the bombers! Against the Wehrmacht, air support for the Bulgarian army was carried out by the Soviet Air Force. So the erroneous recognition of aircraft turned off.
          Greece was occupied.

          They regained the territory inhabited for centuries with the Bulgarian population! This is a territory recognized as Bulgarian in Russia, according to the San Stefano Treaty in 1878! Her Greece and Serbia occupied during the second Balkan war and in WWI. There was no "anti-fascist resistance" in the territory of the children, since the local population met the Bulgarian army as a liberator!
          At the same time, your army was divided, part remained loyal to the Germans, the other part went under the flags of the allies.

          Give facts to prove this thesis! Toka do not compose about the "SS Panzer-Zerstörer Brigade -bulgarische Nr. 1 !! These are 500 ethnic Bulgarians who had German, Hungarian and Austrian citizenship + Vienna College nurses + deserters from the BGA! They" fought "in Austria. During the Bulgarian army fought with the Wehrmacht! Among the BGA, the deserters were 5 / five / times smaller than the Red Army!
          Compare with the losses of the USSR, Belarus, Ukraine? Even as a percentage of the population.

          Who is arguing? On the territory of Bulgaria were not conducted any intense fighting! Partisan communists from the BKP. After September 44, the Red Army marched across Bulgaria as a parade and without any military losses!
          Abandon South Stream? Well, you yourself refused.

          Lying! Give at least one document / not from the media / which this hardening confirms!
          What are you doing there? Masturbation?

          First look at yourself, then find fault with another volume ... And put your hands on the table!
          And do not tell us.

          Mutually! Bulgaria does not have it and never had such intentions! We do not teach the world how “it must live”!
          The maximum that you can give is poor resorts, weak wine, some agricultural products.

          These "weak" things in 2017 brought Bulgaria 23 000 000 000 EUR! 5 years in a row, exports are growing 10-11%!
          Well, the South Stream corridor. But you can do without it.

          It is possible, but expensive. And Gazprom’s businessmen know how to count dengah ... Reasonably hinting that "... all the same, it is better through Bulgaria ..."
          Conversation about nothing.

          This is always the case when the "interlocutor" does not hear the arguments. You do not hear. request
          1. Andrey NM
            Andrey NM April 1 2018 16: 41
            +1
            Quote: pytar
            No ally had Bulgaria at that time.

            You have chosen your allies. And in the first world, and in the second world, and now. Your current government has shown that it is non-negotiable. Did you also build a power station in Belem? And you behave the same with the South Stream. Not interested in hearing your excuses. And nobody teaches you. You yourself slander, and then whine, nodding at others. Learn to keep your word.
            Quote: pytar
            since the local population greeted the Bulgarian army as a liberator!

            The Czechs also met with our flowers, but this did not stop them from working for Germany throughout the war and even developing on an initiative basis various types of weapons for the Germans. There was not a single fact of sabotage or sabotage at their enterprises.
            1. pytar
              pytar April 1 2018 17: 26
              +1
              You have chosen allies for yourself.

              Allies are chosen in view of the one who is against you. In WWI, RI found itself on the side of our worst enemies. Accordingly, there was our enemy. In general, RI was misplaced in this war. As a result, it ceased to exist. In WWII, the situation was different. When entering the Axis of Bulgaria, the USSR and Germany were not enemies. Between them for a year and a half, as the non-aggression pact was signed. And after 22 on June 41, Bulgaria was one of all the Axis countries, refused to participate in the war against the USSR. good
              Your current government has shown that it is non-negotiable.

              You are clearly not up to date. The Russian Federation agrees with our government and it’s very active! bully
              Did you also build a power station in Belem?

              Why is it that everyone who starts to get smart does not bother to read for himself, at least often from comments ??? what
              And you behave the same with the South Stream.

              Same! bully Browse the forum. I gave explanations on these projects.
              Not interested in hearing your excuses. And nobody teaches you.

              What a damn excuse ?! belay Not interested in listening? Then why are you involved in a dispute? sad To teach us ??? lol
              Learn to keep your word.

              You yourself need to learn a lot more before you start advising others then! yes
              The Czechs also met with our flowers, but that did not stop them from working for Germany ..

              Claims to the Czechs. Che-ham! fellow Then remember the Poles and the rest of humanity. All enemies and traitors. At the same time, carefully circumvent the fact that 1,5 million Soviet citizens stood in various kinds of collaborative formations ... wink
              As all troubles come from ignorance, I’m Andrey, I wish you health, good luck and education! hi
              1. Andrey NM
                Andrey NM April 1 2018 19: 53
                +1
                Quote: pytar
                When entering the Axis of Bulgaria, the USSR and Germany were not enemies. Between them for a year and a half, as the non-aggression pact was signed.

                And a year earlier, there was a Munich agreement. The British and French with the Germans hugged and kissed. No need to juggle.
                Quote: pytar
                The Russian Federation agrees with our government and it’s very active!

                Have you talked a lot? What are the results?

                Quote: pytar
                At the same time, carefully circumvent the fact that 1,5 million citizens of the USSR stood in different kinds of collaborative formations ...

                This is our internal question and it has nothing to do with Bulgaria. Learn to be responsible for yourself.
                Quote: pytar
                Since ignorance comes from all ills

                You see, at least they began to understand a little, but first you will create something thoughtlessly, and then clutch your head, what have you done. Good luck.
                1. pytar
                  pytar April 1 2018 23: 33
                  +1
                  Andrey, you seem lost in your thoughts. Threw in a bunch of everything! laughing Okay. Leave it alone.
                  On the issue of economic cooperation, a separate article must be written! You will be surprised how active the RF and the BG are!
                  More ... For what questions I will write, not you decide. Get in with this thought. wink Before you teach people, you yourself will learn. I wish you good luck too! hi
                  1. Andrey NM
                    Andrey NM April 2 2018 04: 48
                    0
                    Quote: pytar
                    More ... For what questions I will write, not you decide. Get in with this thought.

                    Do not tell my slippers ... Solvers.
                    1. pytar
                      pytar April 2 2018 10: 09
                      +1
                      Do not tell my slippers ... Solvers.

                      Your slippers! I have nothing against it if IM is funny! lol I hope they do not let you down and do not fall badly! fellow
  36. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 31 March 2018 08: 47
    +1
    Share from the United States ─ left a Russian diplomat, and get your two back.
  37. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 31 March 2018 08: 48
    0
    London and Washington paid little to the Bulgarian authorities. Did not agree on the price. And our diplomats will be sent.
    1. pytar
      pytar 31 March 2018 14: 03
      +1
      London and Washington paid little to the Bulgarian authorities. Did not agree on the price. And our diplomats will be sent.

      You apparently possess information unknown to us! belay Share in more detail? wink
      1. Seraphimamur
        Seraphimamur April 1 2018 06: 34
        +2
        My information is knowledge of history. In World War I and World War II, Bulgaria was on the side of the enemies of Russia and the USSR, now the country is in NATO. The conclusion is nothing good should be expected from Bulgaria. I want to note among the population there may be friends of Russia. But who chooses rulers hostile to Russia? Therefore, among the Bulgarians, the friends of Russia are a minority. It’s sad.
        1. pytar
          pytar April 1 2018 15: 03
          +1
          My information is knowledge of history.

          This is what we are talking about! Your "knowledge of history" is somehow one-sided, eksposroitivny! You do not have the ability to put in the place of others then and look at things from their side! You are "always right" in spite of the fact that you yourself were friends in different periods from almost all your enemies! You deny the right to others to act like you!
          ..Bulgaria was on the side of the enemies of Russia and the USSR ..

          Let’s take a look from the other side! On which side was RI / USSR in 1885, 1913, WWII and WWII before 22.06.1941? Is it not on the side of our enemies?
          The conclusion is nothing good should be expected from Bulgaria.

          For us, the conclusion is that we need to be very cautious about Russia. And we must stand on our national interests, whatever it is! To conduct pro-Bulgarian politics is what you need!
          I want to note among the population there may be friends of Russia. But who chooses rulers hostile to Russia? Consequently, a minority is among the friends of Russia in Bulgaria.

          Most of the population sympathizes with Russia. The fact is confirmed by all opinion polls. We select those who hope that they will work primarily in the interest of Bulgaria! It does not always succeed, but in general it turns out.
          It is sad.

          It is sad that we are dealing with people who do not understand the situation. request People who consider themselves first instance! I don’t think so. I believe that it is time to put everything in its place, and then many of the misconceptions suggested by the media will be scattered. hi
          1. Seraphimamur
            Seraphimamur April 2 2018 02: 02
            0
            Thank you, pytar. You have dispelled my last doubts about what kind of "brother" Bulgarians really are. You better stay with Turkey.
            1. pytar
              pytar April 2 2018 10: 14
              +1
              You have dispelled my last doubts about what the Bulgarians really are. You better stay with Turkey.

              Stepan, your "doubts" or "beliefs" do not bother me personally! I assure you! yes
              I’m not like brother with you, and correctly put this word in quotation marks! I can only say that we are brothers from those normal cool Russians who think with their heads! There are a lot of such people in the Russian Federation! good Our peoples are brotherly, but such as you are a minority. negative
  38. BAI
    BAI 31 March 2018 08: 49
    0
    I did not expect from Bulgaria. Maybe there are some unknown circumstances.
  39. Matroskin
    Matroskin 31 March 2018 09: 46
    +3
    Quote: Kotovsky
    Betrayed .. As the language then turns ..
    Indeed .... that it’s me ... The events of the nineties are not a betrayal, but a tactical retreat
    1. Gado
      Gado 31 March 2018 11: 04
      +2
      I see your friends attacked you, maybe they don’t remember the 90s, maybe then they were just born? And we have people with a short memory in bulk, the connection between generations was lost then, in the 90s, that young people did not receive education, only "dummies" in the form of words sometimes and only. But the information war for the minds of young people has not stopped for 30 years now, sometimes I feel sorry for them, sometimes I want to tear their heads off ... That's how we live, gnawing each other, and the enemies rub their hands pretty.
      1. Matroskin
        Matroskin 31 March 2018 12: 40
        +3
        Kamrad, but so far there has only been one attack, without much argument and logic in it. Reactive Thinking from the series "Stop Feeding the Caucasus." And at the expense of youth, it seems to me that you should not be mistaken. I have two nephews, one 25-year-old unemployed dibil, an adherent of Navalny. The second 14-year-old student, is read out by history and ... Hegel, dreams of becoming a fleet officer.
        1. Gado
          Gado 31 March 2018 14: 15
          +1
          And I don’t say that all young people are not worth a penny, I just wish they would not make our mistakes, but it’s not destined, and it was probably the same with us in the eyes of our parents. But then everything was clear - there are enemies, here are friends, and now it is generally not clear who the enemy is, and who is the friend, they are completely confused. Most of all, I hope that we won’t get to the war, then it will not be important who was what and what is. I always hoped that the mind would prevail over stupidity, but was no longer sure.
  40. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 31 March 2018 10: 35
    +2
    President Radev and Prime Minister Borisov are agents of the Kremlin!
    1. pytar
      pytar 31 March 2018 14: 05
      +1
      President Radev and Prime Minister Borisov are agents of the Kremlin!

      Radev pilot on the MiG-29, and Borisov was a police officer! The hand of the Kremlin! Here everything has come to light ...! fellow
  41. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 31 March 2018 11: 30
    0
    Australia joined, but New Zealand refused.
  42. militia2
    militia2 31 March 2018 18: 44
    +1
    [quote = pytar] [quote] The Polish Legion in Turkey ... First, numbering 70 people, under the command of Jozef Yagmin, was part of the Salih Pasha division. On August 23, 1877, he took part in the battle near the village of Kizlar, with heavy losses. [/ quote]
    In Bulgaria, Kizlar is not present. Probably we are talking about the settlement of the same name in southwestern Moldova. Then this region was part of the Ottoman Empire.

    When copying links from a wiki, bother checking data. No.
    [quote] OK! The Poles fought on the side of the Ottoman Empire, and Radev ... honors them as heroes [/ quote]
    He honors not those 70 people, but those:
    At the beginning of 1876, more than 85 000 soldiers with a catholic faith were in active service in Armenia. According to data from 1876 in the Russian army serve 64 883 soldiers born in Polsha. They make up 9,36% of the total army. The rest are Lithuanians and Belorussians. Of these, half participate in the Russian-Turkish war. The General who died during the defense of Shipka Pole is alone.
    [quote] "On the battlefields of the Russian-Turkish liberation war, warriors of many nations died: Russians, Romanians, Finns, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Poles, Lithuanians, Serbs and Montenegrins. For all of them, Bulgaria is the last home, No.

    . [/ Quote]
    1. militia2
      militia2 31 March 2018 19: 17
      +2
      The first one. He worked last year in the archive (Military Historical Archive), looking for information from his great-grandfather, non-commissioned officer of the Semenovsky regiment, who distinguished himself during the liberation of Bulgaria (two crosses). I reviewed a dozen cases (soldierly, mostly) - these are several thousand people over the years. Something about 10% of Poles there is no information, maybe 1-3 people, well, 5 people and there were a dozen or two more guys called up from the provinces that are now called Ukraine and Belarus. Perhaps the Poles were in other regiments.
      The second one. About ten years ago he was in Bulgaria at the Kozloduy NPP at a meeting. There he met an old Bulgarian professor (he later helped me choose a good Bulgarian wine, thanks to him). I ask him: "Why do you Bulgarians refuse Russian nuclear power units, well, let the West help you build some Western power unit first, and then give up ours, where is your logic?" He sighed, and in good Russian answers: "There is no logic, this is politics ...". Well, what can I add? So with Patriarch Kirill too, this is politics. He told the truth, and the host, I must admit, also told the truth, well, maybe not all the nationalities of the soldiers who fought were listed. They did not speak with each other, but turned to third parties. And if one of the Bulgarians was offended by the truth, well, God forgive them!
      The third. I sympathize with the Bulgarians and especially the Bulgarian women. And someday in the summer I hope to come somewhere to the sea and remember the good old days when we called each other "Brothers", swore friendship and sealed the union with "Sunbridge" and a good slivovitsa.
      1. pytar
        pytar 31 March 2018 22: 09
        +1
        About the Poles, Cyril / he is a liar and provocateur /, nuclear power plant and much more ...

        Dear Alexander,
        If you look through my comments you will find answers to all your questions. They may not suit you, but I try to be objective. By the way, I personally know and am friends with many Bulgarian proffesors.
        I sympathize with the Bulgarians and especially the Bulgarian women.

        I warmly sympathize with Russian Women! And they answer me in return!
        And someday in the summer I hope to come somewhere to the sea and remember the good old days when we called each other "Brothers", swore friendship and sealed the union with "Sunbridge" and a good slivovitsa.

        God give you good luck and come true! I wish you good health! hi
  43. karish
    karish 31 March 2018 19: 28
    +1
    London will stumble over Bulgaria. belay
    New anecdote
    Nobody will stumble, London has the right to its policy - Bulgaria to its own.
    Israel (as an example) didn’t react in the same way.
    Why - when the bison butt butts - the smart one will stand aside, and the smart one will sell tickets for this show. laughing
  44. 23424636
    23424636 31 March 2018 20: 52
    +1
    Thanks to the Bulgarian people for supporting Russia. Let this small victory in global hostility bring the Masonic lodge sitting in London a lot of farts and show that the world is becoming multipolar and London has a place in the garbage can of history
  45. vonWolfenstein
    vonWolfenstein April 1 2018 00: 38
    +2
    Here to listen to you and the picture develops again: We helped everyone. We are all betrayed. Russia has allies, the Army and Navy. Here.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin April 1 2018 09: 04
      +3
      Quote: vonWolfenstein
      Here to listen to you and the picture develops again: We helped everyone. We are all betrayed. Russia has allies, the Army and Navy. Here.

      Better not to sum up! Plus to you.
  46. The poor man
    The poor man April 1 2018 15: 45
    0
    Bulgarians have not completely lost their conscience. Prudence in the heads of the "little brothers" - the Bulgarians - is still burning. There is still hope for rapprochement. Although, do we need it?
  47. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny April 1 2018 18: 50
    +1
    pytar,
    By the way, where are the famous Bulgarian builders? In his native Makhachkala, after the earthquake of 1973. The Bulgarians were building a restaurant in Bulgaria, 4 villages. In native Krasnodar cinema Bulgaria. Boyan, the Turks are building now, and where are the brothers?
    1. pytar
      pytar April 1 2018 23: 40
      +2
      You know, since 2007-2017, during the EU membership, by the Euro-funds Bulgaria received 15 billion euros. Most of them are on infrastructure development. There is a lot of work for builders, even qualified personnel are not enough. True, a significant part of the money drowned in various corruption schemes, but they also built a lot of things. Until 2020, another 3 billion euros are expected. So, there is work, there are few personnel!
  48. SOF
    SOF April 2 2018 12: 16
    +2
    pytar,
    ... again twenty-five - all, all around the curves, one I - D'artanyan ...
    fake, fake ... were discredited .... One might think that on March 4, 2016 Recep Tayypich Erdogan was not in the territory of the independent republic of Bulgaria .... When will independence come back? 3rd? And when did you meet a Turk? 4th? noooo .... fake of course .....
    About Shipka - I know and the video was back then, in the 16th I saw it, but I’m tired of telling you, like peas against the wall, nobody (I, in any case) considered the traitors and the Patriarch didn’t say that ..... ....(point)
    And the fact that your power is a weather vane could have been recognized. And this power - you choose, even considering, for the most part, a normal attitude towards us ... Do you know why? Yes, elementary - you want to sit on two chairs. Your replica is that if NATO comes to us with a sword, you will try to unscrew the boss at the hilt of that sword. And you will allow it ??? Do you think your friends don’t remember how you didn’t want to wander around our land in the Second World War? And now, for the diplomatic demarche, of course, thank you, but tomorrow, they will tell you - either as we are, or went out of the EU ..................... What to do will you ??????? AND? I’m afraid that the people who are normal to us will also THINK ..... And they allow you to do the transit branch only because Germany is in share - it’s unlikely that someone will be able to repel their craving for commercial benefit ....
    ....... on your right to live as it is beneficial to you, who, and only NOT WE
    ....... do what you want - your territory, your independence, your life ......
    1. pytar
      pytar April 2 2018 13: 22
      +1
      You might think 4 March 2016 year of Recep Tayypich Erdogan light in the territory of the independent republic of Bulgaria was not .... When will independence come back? 3 th? And when did you meet a Turk? 4 th? noooooo ....

      Alexander, something is wrong with you ... belay Serious! No.
      There was no Erdogan in Bulgaria at 04.03.2016. And the visit was coined and the date coined! 100% fake!
      All visits of heads of foreign states are public and famous. There is no one you repeat! Well, if you wish, you can say that the aliens arrived on 31.02.2016 in Bulgaria! wassat
      A more detailed explanation of this fake, you can get here:
      http://www.prezidentpress.ru/news/3866-otkrytoe-p
      ismo-prezidentu-rf-vv-putinu-kto-zastavil-rossiys
      kie-smi-vbit-klin-v-rossiysko-bolgarskuyu-druzhbu
      .html
      If, after that, you continue to claim that nonexistent, then it is probably a question of some personal problem of yours .. what
      Yes, elementary - you want to sit on two chairs.

      For people unaware of the situation, everything is always simple. Elementary knowledge leads to elementary conclusions. Bulgaria is located in Europe. Economic cooperation with the EU is vital for my country. The main priority remains good neighborliness with the Balkan countries. Our relationship with him has never been so good in history as now. We are connected with Russia by huge cultural and historical ties. The governments of our countries, especially recently, have been very active in improving economic and political ties. The whole range of external relations is our Bulgarian national interest! Who will be frowning, it does not matter. It is more important that Bulgaria becomes an aggregator of peace and stability on the Balkans. I believe that it will be so! good
      1. SOF
        SOF April 2 2018 14: 18
        +2
        Quote: pytar
        http://www.prezidentpress.ru/news/3866-otkrytoe-p
        ismo-prezidentu-rf-vv-putinu-kto-zastavil-rossiys
        kie-smi-vbit-klin-v-rossiysko-bolgarskuyu-druzhbu
        .html

        ... I apologize hi Your blogger has launched - our hype has passed - if there were any denials, they didn’t advertise much ..... and I didn’t go into the subject anymore ...
        ... then we will see what your independence is worth
        or
        Quote: pytar
        Economic cooperation with the EU is vital for my country

        or
        Quote: pytar
        We are connected with Russia by huge cultural and historical ties.

        ... you have to, if not sadly, choose ..... on two chairs, friends from Brussels, you will not be allowed to sit .......
        1. pytar
          pytar April 2 2018 14: 50
          +2
          ... I apologize hi Your blogger has launched - we have made a fuss - denials if there were, they didn’t make much publicity ..... but I didn’t go into the subject anymore ...

          Yes, he himself, that blogger Krum Filovsky, did not expect that such an excitement would turn out with an ego of a joke! When he found out what was going on he was scared and hid for two weeks! You yourself see how easily people believe in all nonsense! They publish fakes on the main bookmarks and "discuss" the tone on televisions with a seriose tone, and if they have refusals, they write in small fonts, somewhere on the last pages ... It’s so from the majority of "novelty" published about Bulgaria in Russian! It seems that there is some kind of negative order in the Russian info space! Better communicate more often with people from their respective countries! So learn a lot about reality!
          ... you have to, if not sadly, choose ..... on two chairs, friends from Brussels, you will not be allowed to sit ....

          Every time we chose someone, for us everything ended badly ... We need to act only in our interest! Everyone works like that! Such a world and we can’t count on anyone!
  49. LIP
    LIP April 3 2018 09: 10
    0
    Remembering the History of relations between Russia and Bulgaria, you can see a lot of "black" pages. Russia has always defended Bulgaria, but for this often received a knife in the back. Therefore, the current refusal of Bulgaria still does not mean anything. Just wait "bro" where the wave will drive.
    1. pytar
      pytar April 3 2018 10: 19
      +1
      Remembering the History of relations between Russia and Bulgaria, you can see a lot of "black" pages.

      Dear Sergey Viktorovich, when we talk about history, we must always take into account that it is ambiguous and you can see many “black” pages with both sides! Just some historians on the corresponding side, expose only their "white" and someone else's "black". From that, your conclusion is erroneous in the roots:
      Russia has always defended Bulgaria, but for this often received a knife in the back.

      Objective, unprejudiced read stories completely refutes this hardening! Considering yourself as “saints” and others as “bad”, you will never get to the understanding that the essence has happened and what is the reason for what happened!
      Therefore, the current refusal of Bulgaria still does not mean anything. Just wait "brother" where the wave will drive.

      Therefore, the current refusal of Bulgaria says that it is trying to defend its national interests, while being in a very difficult situation! They will wait, look back, decide, act ... so do everyone, including the Russian Federation! Why can others, but not Bulgarians? Understand once and for all - Bulgaria has its own interests! They sometimes converge with the Russian, and sometimes not! Does Russia work like that too? Fine!
      1. LIP
        LIP April 4 2018 17: 27
        +1
        Dear Boyan! I will not argue with you on this issue. You yourself write that everyone has their own truth. The way it is. But why did the Bulgarians slaughter Russian soldiers who liberated Bulgaria from the Turkish yoke ?! This is in the distant past. Why did you join NATO? What did Russia threaten you? Or tried to capture by force? In Soviet times, Bulgaria itself wanted to become the 16th republic of the Soviet Union. And then what changed? Having become a vassal of the USA and the EU, you have lost your economy, agriculture and much much more. I often visited Bulgaria at that time. I have many friends there. But what has been done with Bulgaria is now simply incomprehensible to the mind. And it's time to understand that the US and the EU will not die for Bulgaria! It is only the Russian soldier who always defends the weak and offended. Only a Russian soldier is ready to give his life for it !!!
  50. pytar
    pytar April 3 2018 22: 29
    +1
    Quote: Thais
    pytar,
    Boyan, think for yourself why the Patriarch needs to spoil our relations? Well, not for the same thing, he went to you! Definitely not for that. So there was a misunderstanding of the parties, and those who prepared this meeting are to blame, you are right in this.

    Logically, there are 2 probabilities:
    1. There was a misunderstanding of the parties. The bastard.
    2. Everything was intentionally done.
    Read my comments on the occasion. I do not want to repeat myself. The facts clearly indicate the 2 probability.
    Again, the logic implies that the patriarch / or those who stand for him / needed to spoil the relationship. What for? There are some very good reasons. Generally there is interconnecting with other events. But again I will refrain from koment. I do not want to stir up a debate.