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Analysts: US Patriot missile defense system is another "dummy"

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Experts from the Independent Middlebury Institute for International Studies studied the work of the American Patriot missile defense systems in Saudi Arabia and concluded that the famous anti-aircraft missile systems actually do not work.


Analysts have studied the Hussite rocket attacks on Saudi Arabia since November 2017. It turned out that, despite officials' statements about the successful repulsing of the attack, Yemeni missiles were hardly shot down. Jeffrey Lewis and his colleagues published their conclusions on the Foreign Policy pages (translation provided by InoSMI).

Analysts: US Patriot missile defense system is another "dummy"


The experts mapped the places where the debris fell, including the corps of missiles and the warhead, and then - where were the interceptor missiles. As a result, it was possible to trace the pattern. The missiles themselves fell in Riyadh, and their warheads separated, flew all the lines of missile defense and fell close to the targets.

Also, the authors recall the recent incident, when the Patriot rocket, instead of shooting down a shell launched by Hussites, exploded in a residential area of ​​Riyadh.

There is no evidence that Saudi Arabia intercepted at least one Hussite missile during the conflict with Yemen. And in this regard, a very alarming question arises: are there any grounds for believing that the Patriot complex is working?
- writes an expert.

He expressed doubt that the Patriots had ever intercepted long-range ballistic missiles in combat conditions. So, judging by the conclusions of independent experts, during the war in the Persian Gulf, the Patriot intercepted just one Scud missile launched from 47 (and not 50% of them, as the Pentagon claimed). During the Gulf War in 1991, the American public was convinced that the performance of these complexes was close to ideal, as they allegedly intercepted 45 from 47 Scud missiles. According to the US House of Representatives Committee on Investigations into Government Operations, there is no reason to believe that missile interceptions took place at all.

Meanwhile, the Patriot system was purchased by Poland. It is understood that the "Patriot" will have to cover Poland from Russian Iskander missiles, reports "Vzglyad"
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  1. Borik
    Borik 30 March 2018 20: 02
    +5
    According to the US House of Representatives Committee on Investigations of Government Operations, there is no reason to believe that missile intercepts took place at all.

    And that after these conclusions the Yankees publicly admitted that their Patriot was shit. Well no
    1. Anarchist
      Anarchist 30 March 2018 20: 05
      +15
      Poor Poles, they decided to buy such a "bullshit" ... But the Yankees made a discount in the guise so that the deal would not break.
      Or maybe they will do good for the Poles, high-quality? belay
      lol
      1. Cutter
        Cutter 30 March 2018 20: 20
        +5
        Quote: Anarchist
        Poor Poles, they decided to buy such a "bullshit" ... But the Yankees made a discount in the guise so that the deal would not break.
        Or maybe they will do good for the Poles, high-quality? belay
        lol

        Alexander hi I doubt very much that the Poles are so lucky! yes
        It is understood that the Patriot will have to cover Poland from Russian Iskander missiles,

        He’ll cover Pshetsk’s ambition and conceit, let them think that they have the most ... shit! laughing
        1. Hire
          Hire 30 March 2018 20: 33
          +17
          I allow myself to upload a video
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 31 March 2018 07: 33
            +4
            For me, the issue of missile defense is Israel.
            The USA is giving Israel a lot of money (it seems 4 billion dollars a year or more, I don’t remember exactly), provided that the money is spent on arms purchases in the USA. So, in the Iron Dome they use Tamir rockets of their own production.
            All. For me, the Patriot question is closed.
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            2. shans2
              shans2 31 March 2018 12: 56
              +2
              When you are in Israel, your homeland) will be bombed, don’t shout then)
            3. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 31 March 2018 16: 40
              +1
              This is a missile defense of different levels. J.K. imprisoned for intercepting Grad missiles. Further, the David Sling was put into operation - for larger missiles: from Tornado to the Point.
              Further, Patriot and Hatz-2 against Scud missiles. The Hetz-2 shoots first, if it doesn’t hit, then the Patriot shoots down, on approach. Further, for large large-speed ballistic missiles, a Hatz-3 was developed.
      2. Dam
        Dam 31 March 2018 00: 57
        +1
        The heels will beat off. A massive explosion of farts will reflect Iskander at a time
    2. zhekazs
      zhekazs 30 March 2018 20: 23
      +7
      Quote: Borik
      And that after these conclusions the Yankees publicly admitted that their Patriot was shit.

      Well, here you still need to take into account the question - "Who was sitting at the console?" - if the Arabs - then everything is not so clear ...
      And it would be interesting to learn from comrades from the "promised land" - do their Patriots also integrate into the system in the Dome?
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 30 March 2018 23: 01
      +3
      Quote: Borik
      And that after these conclusions, the Yankees publicly admitted that their Patriot shit

      The Middlebury Institute for International Studies in Monterey is a private university located in the center of Monterey, in the state of California (USA). The main areas of student learning: international relations, political science and management, a foreign language, interpretation and translation and localization.

      Analysts damn ..... like Pasha Felgengauer
      1. Alberr
        Alberr 31 March 2018 00: 13
        +3
        the essence doesn’t change, the patriot does not even intercept the Hussite’s self-made weapon, the most powerful thing he can do is bomb his quarter. Filkin then, unlike these, does not even take a compass with a ruler in his hands, and so, he lies in the course of his own stories of his untalented life
      2. user1212
        user1212 31 March 2018 05: 57
        +2
        Quote: Vadivak
        Analysts damn ..... like Pasha Felgengauer

        That's right, but this institute is actively working on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and technologies. In this aspect, the work on resolving the myth of "omnipotent missile defense" makes sense and is quite РјРѕРіР »Ryo be conducted at a decent level. Of course, it is impossible to talk about the quality of the research without analysis of the entire report, but the same can be said about 99.999% of any media reports on any topic. What to do, now is the time of fakes, propaganda and stupidity
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 31 March 2018 10: 17
          +1
          Quote: user1212
          but the same can be said of 99.999% of all media reports on any topic.

          hi
  2. hrych
    hrych 30 March 2018 20: 03
    0
    Well, absolutely wonderful wassat
  3. BABA SHURA
    BABA SHURA 30 March 2018 20: 03
    +4
    - The army rebelled! They say the king is not real! laughing
  4. dr.star75
    dr.star75 30 March 2018 20: 03
    +2
    The report is not correct. No analysis. Everything can be. An article can be attached to opponents and supporters of the system.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 30 March 2018 21: 25
      +4
      Quote: dr.star75
      The report is not correct. No analysis. Everything can be. An article can be attached to opponents and supporters of the system.

      Probably no one will argue that NATO is a commercial project of the SGA, for bringing in expensive and even very expensive to its satellites! And under the guise of Russophobia everything unnecessary and moldy, but also at an expensive price! This is the essence of mattresses.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 31 March 2018 16: 44
      0
      The percentage of hits at Patriot is not very high. It is necessary to shoot several times. In Israel, it is tested periodically for a wide variety of targets: from BR to UAVs.
  5. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 30 March 2018 20: 04
    +3
    "no reason to believe"

    Strange justifications from the "experts". request The general "highly likely" brain, again: maybe yes, maybe no.
    1. Ased
      Ased 30 March 2018 23: 17
      0
      My favorite experts ... Again, an article was written ....
      Maybe the results of some kind of shooting would lead?
  6. polpot
    polpot 30 March 2018 20: 05
    +1
    Husits ​​dashing guys full respect and respect
  7. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 30 March 2018 20: 09
    +6
    But is there any general reason to believe that the Patriot complex is working?

    What's question?! It works, it works .. True, it's shitty, but it works! laughing
  8. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 30 March 2018 20: 11
    +1
    The missiles themselves fell in Riyadh, and their warheads separated, flew over all missile defense lines and fell close to targets.

    Were the warheads training? And if they fell, why didn’t they wring out? The foremen were not around? And the goals said thanks for the fallen scrap metal, to drag closer to the collection point.
  9. Vikmay16
    Vikmay16 30 March 2018 20: 14
    +1
    Let them buy!
  10. lance
    lance 30 March 2018 20: 15
    +4
    where did the quack unpatriots go? just 4 years ago prostrated themselves under the patriot
  11. Slovak
    Slovak 30 March 2018 20: 16
    +2
    They fell in Syria. No, good missiles, most importantly, expensive and useless. So they sold the Poles.
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      1. Slovak
        Slovak 30 March 2018 21: 30
        +1
        are your ukrainian?
  12. Bell pepper
    Bell pepper 30 March 2018 20: 28
    +1
    Today: Peytrit missile defense system shot down a missile: + video:

    https://southfront.org/houthis-launch-ballistic-m
    issile-at-key-saudi-oil-facility-patriot-defense-
    systems-intercept-it-video /

    moment defeat an enemy rocket for 17-18 seconds.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 30 March 2018 20: 48
      +4
      Quote: Bulgarian Pepper
      moment defeat an enemy rocket for 17-18 seconds.

      In such a video, it’s hard to understand if the target was really hit? request
  13. NEXUS
    NEXUS 30 March 2018 20: 42
    +4
    Maybe Patriot is more focused on delivering strikes, rather than intercepting missiles ... although it is certainly very important who is behind the console ...
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    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 30 March 2018 20: 48
      +4
      Quote: SANCHES332
      Are you here for extras?

      No, we are waiting for you. yes
  15. san4es
    san4es 30 March 2018 20: 43
    +3
    Meanwhile, Poland bought the Patriot system.


    Jul 2009 year
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  17. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 30 March 2018 20: 46
    +6
    Quote: dr.star75
    The report is not correct. No analysis. Everything can be. An article can be attached to opponents and supporters of the system.

    You ask yourself, and who has heard about this "institute" to this day.
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 30 March 2018 21: 26
      +1
      Well, here we come to the beginning, but was there a boy?
      Colleague, what do you write about the raid of Israeli aircraft on Syria to Iran and Iraq?
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 30 March 2018 21: 28
        +4
        Quote: dr.star75
        Well, here we come to the beginning, but was there a boy?
        Colleague, what do you write about the raid of Israeli aircraft on Syria to Iran and Iraq?

        It's nothing.
        1. dr.star75
          dr.star75 30 March 2018 21: 33
          0
          Agreed. I wonder how they hunt in Israel, in season or how?
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 30 March 2018 21: 39
            0
            Quote: dr.star75
            Agreed. I wonder how they hunt in Israel, in season or how?

            This is definitely not for me. Search the Internet for information. But I think that our hunting is very poor.
    2. Egorovich
      Egorovich 30 March 2018 21: 34
      0
      Combine the "Patriot" and the "Iron Dome" and get an unrivaled weapon to shoot down bullets flying past the target. An expert from the "institute" is not needed for this.
  18. svp67
    svp67 30 March 2018 20: 51
    +12
    since they allegedly intercepted 45 of the 47 Scud missiles.
    But it’s interesting, this, which fell into the barracks with the US Marines, was No. 46 or 47 ... I think for the dead it is all the same ...
  19. faterdom
    faterdom 30 March 2018 20: 56
    +7
    It turns out that Pans bought a firework for themselves. For almost 5 lard. The late Mavrodi in a coffin tossing and turning and crying with envy.
    1. demo
      demo 30 March 2018 21: 58
      +2
      Mavrodi does not lie in a coffin. He is still in the morgue. On the shelf. There is no one to take.
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  20. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 30 March 2018 20: 58
    +5
    Experts from the Independent Middlebury Institute
    We decided to smoke at work and a jamb came out - the analysis turned out to be true and not corresponding to the opinion, which is correct, because "everyone knows that"
    1. mig29mks
      mig29mks 30 March 2018 21: 23
      +1
      Not corresponding to the party line))))
  21. uralex
    uralex 30 March 2018 21: 21
    +3
    Judging by the blatant lies that the Americans and their allies freely relate to Russia, I am not surprised if it turns out that the declared characteristics of their military products also turn out to be a lie.
    It seems that for them a lie in the name of money is sacred!
    1. Senior manager
      Senior manager 30 March 2018 22: 17
      +1
      The Yankees lie and lie in the blood, but the reaction of our specialists is not clear. Either they are really afraid of the Patriot, or they are pushing for the installation of relatively safe devices. Although the concern is the ability to charge the Tomahawk system. The riddle.
      1. MadCat
        MadCat 31 March 2018 02: 19
        +2
        Quote: St. Propulsion
        The Yankees lie and lie in the blood, but the reaction of our specialists is not clear. Either they are really afraid of the Patriot, or they are pushing for the installation of relatively safe devices. Although the concern is the ability to charge the Tomahawk system. The riddle.

        The head of the RF Armed Forces headquarters said at the conference that the missile defense poses a significant threat, it is like a more significant opinion than the unknown analysts.
  22. mvg
    mvg 30 March 2018 22: 17
    +1
    Is there a video where the S-300 is knocking something down? But the Patriot really shot down, although it was almost 30 years ago. Israel will confirm. There is no perfect missile defense, otherwise we would have been bent by friends in the 90s.
    Now I will explain, maybe there is a video where the S-300 works on missiles.
  23. SETTGF
    SETTGF 30 March 2018 23: 16
    0
    Dear! Do not underestimate the "enemy" ... Much depends on those who are behind the control panels and application conditions, although the S-300 and S-400 can be used in fully automatic modes ...
    1. 9griffon
      9griffon 31 March 2018 08: 35
      +1
      Why is everyone calling the Patriot missile defense complex? Of course, I didn’t see him in the eye, but if you take it by analogy with the S-300, then simply any normal "three hundredth", preferably one that was in the place of the capture officer: how can it capture not an aerodynamic, but a ballistic target? Yes, there is such an opportunity, but this is a real nightmare to calculate. Steering wheels must be oiled to exhaustion.
  24. Antony
    Antony 30 March 2018 23: 20
    0
    The Hussites are shooting with "Scuds" like? Then it’s not clear at all that the R-17 warhead does not separate
    1. Graz
      Graz 30 March 2018 23: 54
      0
      there, like the Iranians help with their products, so the Saud and rage
    2. user1212
      user1212 31 March 2018 06: 45
      0
      Quote: Antony
      The Hussites are shooting with "Scuds" like?

      Iranian "handmade" on the subject of skads, oki, etc. with their buns and diseases
  25. Zomanus
    Zomanus 31 March 2018 01: 19
    0
    The main thing is that it is for sale.
    And whether it works or not is the tenth matter.
  26. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 31 March 2018 01: 53
    0
    Now striatum will explain to everyone that the Patriot works well only in American hands ...
    But here is how they "shove" him all ...
  27. gorenina91
    gorenina91 31 March 2018 04: 48
    +2
    -And where is the real ... practical proof of the effectiveness of our S-300 and S-400 ..?
    -Well, it seems that an opinion was formed that these Russian complexes ... are very effective ...
    - Well, they have been installed in Syria and Iran for quite some time ...
    -But .., everyone flies over Syria ... -and not a single downed "enemy" plane or rocket ...
    -That was a long time ago there was a war between Israel and Egypt ... -And the Egyptian air defense were equipped with the most modern (at that time) Soviet missile systems ... -And what ..? - Everything turned out to be fake ...
    -It turned out that Israeli planes flew "from somewhere not from there ..." - "from the wrong side" ... and they smashed everything to smithereens ... -And then not only Arabs and Egyptians "sat and were on duty" ... and they all slammed ...- And our experienced rocket launchers, who were also on combat duty at that time, also died ...
    -That, now, too, the reasons are already beginning to arise ... -the height of the flying enemy missiles is "too small" to bring them down .. then the terrain (too many hills) and so on prevented ... -It’s like in film "The white sun of the desert" .... - "Yes .., he has grenades of the wrong system" ...
    1. cats
      cats 31 March 2018 07: 34
      +6
      Quote: gorenina91
      But .., everyone flies over Syria ... and not a single downed "enemy" plane or rocket

      Irina, cook your husband’s lunch better ..
      Some kind of series look ..
      Why fuss superficially without going into details? hi
    2. poquello
      poquello 31 March 2018 11: 56
      +2
      Quote: gorenina91
      there was a war between Israel and Egypt ... -And the Egyptian air defense were equipped with the most modern (at that time) Soviet missile systems ... -And what ..? - Everything turned out to be fake ...

      ))) was the US war with Vietnam was not fake.
      "on, off, on, off, off, off, off"
      and still there is such garbage as the ratio of the number of targets hit, and the garbage is constantly checked by the Defense Ministry and Oboronp
  28. ASG7
    ASG7 31 March 2018 05: 22
    0
    In general, I don’t care how the “patriot” actually flies there, it was just the Americans, with their misinformation about their combat capabilities, that made our designers really approach the “unthinkable” characteristics of Russian weapons. But the Americans will have to live with this.
  29. nikolaev
    nikolaev 31 March 2018 08: 52
    0
    because in fact, the Patriot systems are designed to launch the Tomahawks, not defense. Protection is too complicated and expensive. Yes, and you don’t need to defend Poland or SaudAr. Sell ​​on a specious pretext - yes, place means of attack on a specious pretext - yes, and defend - Why?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 March 2018 17: 39
      +1
      KR Tomahawk, doesn’t fit into the launch of the Patriot either.