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China conducts "incredibly large" naval exercises

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Military experts commented on the demonstration of military power by the People's Republic of China in the South China Sea, where exercises with at least 40 warships and submarines led by the aircraft carrier "Liaoning" are taking place.


Expert of the Institute of Defense and Strategic Studies at the School of International Studies. Rajaratnam in Singapore, Colin Koch, in an interview with Reuters, said that the current exercises were an “unusual large-scale demonstration” of China’s growing military force at sea, reports Renmin Ribao.

China conducts "incredibly large" naval exercises

satellite images recorded by dozens of ships of the Chinese Navy, including the aircraft carrier Liaonin, near Hainan Island in the South China Sea.


According to international security expert Jeffrey Lewis, the satellite photographs from the exercise show “incredible proportions”. He noted that the participation of the aircraft carrier "Liaoning" has become important news.

Chinese military expert Li Jie told ThePaper.cn newspaper that "the Liaoning aircraft carrier has officially formed partial combat capability." He stressed that to achieve such a result was not easy. Jie recalled that only five years had passed since Liaoning entered the service and was first involved in practical exercises.

According to him, this is a great progress for a country that has never built and never had aircraft carriers. At the same time, China prepared a lot of ship pilots.

The official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the PRC, Ren Guoqiang, noted that the purpose of the practical exercises of the Navy of the country are to check and raise the level of military training, comprehensive strengthening of combat abilities. According to him, the exercises are not directed against any other country or object, reports “Vzglyad”
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  1. Vard
    Vard 30 March 2018 16: 58
    +3
    It is hoped that this is not about our honor ... They have there Taiwan and more ...
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 30 March 2018 16: 59
      +13
      Quote: Vard
      it's not about our honor ...

      Their teachings do not exactly apply to us. We have a land border with them. Rather, to Taiwan.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 30 March 2018 17: 04
        +7
        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Quote: Vard
        it's not about our honor ...

        Their teachings do not exactly apply to us.

        Well, how can I say, pulling the forces of the US Navy on themselves .. Russia easier yet! And then the whole world attacked us, fighting off as we can .. And the Chinese dragon is gaining power, well done!
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 30 March 2018 17: 09
          +7
          What are you enjoying
          1. Ross_ulair
            Ross_ulair 30 March 2018 17: 18
            +12
            If the giants of the USA and China take a snack, and we stand aside, in the end it will play into our hands and
            All Nagorno-Saxons won all the wars: the winner is not the one who starts first, but who joins last.
            An example is both world wars, when the USA from a regional country with influence only on its own and the neighboring continent (and then mediated at the beginning of the XNUMXth century) turned into a superpower: both times they were the last to join the conflicts, and skim the cream (if this comparison is appropriate) ... but it’s all right for the naughty sax)
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 30 March 2018 20: 00
              +4
              Quote: ROSS_Ulair
              If the giants of the USA and China take a snack, and we stand aside, in the end it’s in our hands and play

              That's all in this phrase! What the fuck are giants? Since when damn it? Let’s not wake up with the latest history, how many years on the international stage are their gigantism? We are unlucky now again (however, as always), but we were the Empire when the United States was not at all, and China launched fireworks and hired from Japan.
              1. Ross_ulair
                Ross_ulair 30 March 2018 20: 40
                +2
                And if you let go of the past and look at the present?
                The USA, China, Russia are currently superpowers. How it was in the past, what will happen in the future is unknown. But today - that is, that is
                1. lis-ik
                  lis-ik 30 March 2018 20: 55
                  +3
                  Quote: ROSS_Ulair
                  Ross_ulair

                  I will be 50 this spring, I have already served under the empire, I have lived with all the “deeds”, now it’s time for peace, I can nastalat.
            2. ventel
              ventel 30 March 2018 21: 02
              0
              You better look what you have in the southeast in central Asia if the Americans leave whoever yours will be there. So it will not work aside. But Trump doesn’t go to that, as some people think, he is already preparing the ground for the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. You say that it’s time to end the hegimon, well, I’ll see. Too many ambitions, both Iran and China with Russia and all have a land border with the countries of Central Asia. Or do you think that Bishkek, Tashkent, Ashgabat, Dushamba will resist radical Islam, I doubt it.
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 31 March 2018 03: 42
                +3
                Vitaly, you have a bad control over the situation. We will be glad if the NATO members leave - with such a contingent they are not able to withstand the local barmels. Moreover, they are sitting at their bases and are transferring "someone" on helicopters. bully .
                If they get out of Afghanistan to Central Asia, then the situation in Syria will be repeated. CSTO bases in northern Afghanistan, and the Chinese will "beg." And this is the United States - they will be very short-sighted if they decide to "set" their barmlays ?! There are internal barmalei, but they drive them all over Central Asia.
                The United States has enough goals besides Central Asia. Pakistan "fought off", Iran is a "sworn friend", the Uyghurs of China.
                In 99g. IMU barmalei (up to 1000 people) decided to break through Kyrgyzstan from Tajikistan to Uzbekistan. Batken events. Rolled up in the mountains. hi
                1. ventel
                  ventel 31 March 2018 10: 48
                  0
                  Well then, maybe you own the situation, then tell me that there are no internal problems in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, clan power, social problems have been resolved, problems of national minorities and borders have been completely resolved. And do not tell me how ISIS could in such a short time turn into the force that the largest countries in the world are fighting. For Pakistan, there’s no reason to worry about the radicals like in Egypt, the army will quickly endure. Iran already holds significant forces on the Afghan border and still bears losses. China and they are better than standing on the small Chinese wall than Central Asia mates with military force by the fact that they know for a long time and perspective fogs.
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 31 March 2018 22: 15
                    +1
                    Vitaly, good evening!
                    There are enough problems in Central Asia. They are the same as in the entire post-Soviet space. But there is no threat of a seizure of power by the radicals. Siloviki rule, maybe only in Kyrgyzstan the situation with radicals in the south is difficult.
                    IG has good “sponsors”. But it’s very difficult for these sponsors to find “like-minded people” for IS in Soviet Central Asia. IMU and other movements have long been banned, and everywhere persecuted.
                    In Pakistan, the government does not control, for example, Vizaristan - there is a zone of Pashtun tribes. Didn't you know that? This is a remote mountain region. The Pakistani army took it upon themselves more than once, even under pressure from the Yankees, but ... NATO convoys often attacked there.
                    Iran-Afghan border. In Iran, about 3 mil. Afghans, many of whom are ... illegal. This suggests that it is "transparent." Iran has invested about 1 billion dollars. and dug 700 km. moats, but ... doesn't help. And it seems to me that someone can take advantage of this.
                    PRC. Last year, there were reports that Chinese special forces were spotted at the border. Moreover, from the Afghan side. So the Chinese want the Central Asian countries (incl. Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan and Tajikistan) to build transit routes. Beijing is not going to turn away from the planned Silk Road. We, in Kazakhstan, have done almost everything and transit at a galloping pace is progressing. At the time of the collapse of the Union, 240 thousand tons per year to today's 50 mil. Tons (with an increase of up to 70 mil. In 2020). So China is not going to build walls, they decided to invest with us in the construction of 52 industrial enterprises (several have already been launched). We finished gas pipelines to China at the end of last year - 55 billion cubic meters of gas a year from Central Asia went to China. hi
                    1. ventel
                      ventel April 1 2018 00: 04
                      0
                      Dauren you also good evening! So you do not deny that there are problems. As experience shows, ISIS took a little bit from Marxism, something with the Maoisk tactics of guerrilla warfare, and everything is mixed up with the Koran. The result you see is how to deal with hydra. So I wouldn’t say so surely. Moreover, the Persian monarchies don’t like Iran very much and don’t stint money, besides Pakistan will get its share. There are also problems with the Uighurs in China, because there were reports that immigrants from China fought in ISIS It was an internship for the underground fighters, so to speak, and the special forces roamed around in Afghanistan not for fun but were looking for training camps. Well, the Chinese comrades will probably take into account the lesson of both the USSR and the USA.
                      1. Kasym
                        Kasym April 2 2018 04: 41
                        +1
                        Vitaliy, the fact is that I often read the Russian media and understand that there is very little information about Central Asia and Kazakhstan. Therefore, the people have not very correct ideas.
                        I wrote about the invasion of the bearded region. And the internal ones "do not dance" - the people do not support throughout Central Asia and the Republic of Kazakhstan. Especially the issue of financing such. After all, the IMU (Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan) and others have been expelled from the region for a long time. I can write you for Kazakhstan for an hour, but I won’t. I will give just an example. In the Kazakhstani "zones" in the years 12-13, the bearded were "rolled up" - everyone was shaved and forced to eat pork. Central Asia and the Republic of Kazakhstan are police states where the security forces are strong. Any bearded man can be taken to the police department and find out a person for a long time. Moreover, the precinct then will not give "rest", although no one forbids wearing a beard.
                        That's why I write, Vitaly, that if Beijing begins to fence itself off with a wall, then tomorrow the Uyghurs will appear in the XUAR (the largest "province" of China) (up to 30 mil. Uyghurs live there - this is their land). At comrade Xi other plans. Railway Uzbekistan-Kyrgyzstan-China is under construction. Currently buying coal, uranium, oil, gas and other raw materials from the region. Beijing officially announced that it would not allow “third countries” to enter the region (except Russia, of course). Loans almost the whole of Central Asia, incl. Afghan. That is, he is ready to provide troops through the SCO. CSTO and China exercises are held regularly in the region, incl. territory of the PRC.
                        States lead their game in Central Asia. Organized the structure of CA + USA (5 + 1 - something like that). But there’s a talking room, they don’t want to finance. On the contrary, they curtailed many programs in the area of ​​NGOs, the fight against drugs, armies, etc. .. And it seems to me that they realized that letting their “bearded men” back into Central Asia could return as a boomerang.
                        Vitaliy, for example, Kazakhstan does not receive loans from the West at all. They also strangle, arresting the National Fund, etc. .. Also the Central Asian countries. Western investors with their technologies do not come to us, although there are very favorable conditions and guarantees. We have long been under Western sanctions.
          2. hrych
            hrych 30 March 2018 17: 19
            +8
            Quote: Clever man
            What are you enjoying

            Large-scale reduction of the land army of the PRC (challenge to the Russian Federation) in favor of the Navy (challenge to the United States and Japan). Which indicates a change in the expansionist policies of the PRC. The vile little Dan sold to the West did not develop a fleet, but was preparing a land army and the map in his office hung with Chinese Siberia. That’s the whole difference.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 30 March 2018 23: 36
              0
              "The large-scale reduction of the land army of China (a challenge to the Russian Federation" /////

              The Chinese finally realized that it was not the number of soldiers with machine guns that won, but the exact weapons. Therefore, they reduce ground forces. Instead, the 5th generation of aviation is launched into the series (air supremacy is half a victory), it is stuffing the army with modern technology. So their army is developing harmoniously: both ground forces, and the Air Force and Navy.
              1. hrych
                hrych 31 March 2018 09: 03
                +4
                Quote: voyaka uh
                So their army is developing harmoniously: both ground forces, and the Air Force and Navy.

                Nothing of the kind, they have an unbalanced army. The great problems with strategic forces, useless nuclear submarines and long-range aviation are represented by a subsonic Tu-16 with a combat radius that does not allow threatening the Capitals and the main military-economic centers of the EU, Russia and the USA. They suffered a complete failure in engine building, for 20 years they could not make a normal copy, we have to buy our outdated engines and modern aircraft, which are a drop in the bucket, and morally obsolete junk is in service. About a 5th generation airplane, generally laughter. ICBMs are limited, very imperfect, there is great doubt about the possibility of overcoming the American missile defense, and they are significantly behind in nuclear technologies. He is experiencing difficulties in the production of the Kyrgyz Republic. The copied air defense is imperfect and morally obsolete. It takes the first and uncertain steps in the use of carrier-based aircraft, the aircraft carrier is still undergoing tests. The shock capabilities of decent displacement vessels leave much to be desired. A large share of arms imports, dependence, in particular on the Russian Federation in service, specialists, spare parts, etc. The lack of combat experience in the use of modern weapons, the global satellite system is underdeveloped. They say they’ll catch up, this is nonsense, the enemy does not stand still, but increases the technological gap. And late, the war with the West, while trading, began. The rearmament of the PRC army did not have time to finish, it’s not enough for 10 years, they also did not manage to build a self-sufficient economy and, most importantly, with food safety. Reforms on the creation of capitalism led to a division in society, a universal social sphere has not been created. The main political and economic centers on or near the coast do not have the depth of the territory; the flight time to them is only a couple of minutes. Critical dependence on maritime trade, especially for energy and food. China is in an extremely difficult situation, even not ready for a trade war. Therefore, he urgently adopted government reforms. Xi himself does not have charisma, is not a commander, but a gray apparatchik, although of course there is a chance to prove himself.
          3. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov 30 March 2018 20: 47
            +1
            Quote: Clever man
            What are you enjoying

            The relics of China! I hope that they will be released from the USA, etc. And Russia will be an observer! We have already fought our own. it's time to watch from the side .. heh heh
        2. XXXIII
          XXXIII 30 March 2018 18: 48
          0
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Quote: Vard
          it's not about our honor ...

          Their teachings do not exactly apply to us.

          Well, how can I say, pulling the forces of the US Navy on themselves .. Russia easier yet! And then the whole world attacked us, we fight back as best we can .. And the Chinese the dragon is gaining power, well done!
          So they see our problems and learn from our solutions, many do so, China is the new "USSR", it has no equal in the future .... hi
          1. Ross_ulair
            Ross_ulair 30 March 2018 19: 07
            +3
            Before the USSR, it’s like to China ... damn it, that is, to the moon laughing
            THE USSR - first and only in history SOCIAL a state that cared for its citizens in the first place. China is imperialism as it is, but in a red, communist, wrapper.
            You can, of course, refer to a huge population, lack of resources, etc., but this does not cancel the fact of global exploitation of the population, covered by beautiful slogans
            All of the above IMHO
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 30 March 2018 19: 22
              0
              Quote: ROSS_Ulair
              Before the USSR, it’s like to China ... damn it, that is, to the moon laughing
              THE USSR - first and only in history SOCIAL a state that cared for its citizens in the first place. China is imperialism as it is, but in a red, communist, wrapper.
              You can, of course, refer to a huge population, lack of resources, etc., but this does not cancel the fact of global exploitation of the population, covered by beautiful slogans
              All of the above IMHO

              Well, their domestic policy is different, let them decide there how convenient it is for them, but foreign is important to us. In the outside we are more allies than enemies, the main thing is not to step on their rake, but also take what suits us, cultural exchange, so to speak ... yes
              1. Ross_ulair
                Ross_ulair 30 March 2018 19: 40
                0
                Quote: XXXIII
                Well, their domestic policy is different, let them decide there how convenient it is for them, but foreign is important to us. In the outside we are more allies than enemies, the main thing is not to step on their rake, but also take what suits us, cultural exchange, so to speak ... yes

                I do not argue. But there are a few buts.
                1. China is a thing in itself. For millennia, they were allies only to themselves. They have no faith.
                However, this is not important for Russia, but only if you follow the commandments of Alexander III about the allies of Russia
                2. That they do not step on our rake. We raced about in our rake and screeched with pleasure. China, looking at this, finished everything on Tien An Men Square.
                3. Cultural exchange is in principle impossible - too different mentalities.
                4. Allies - only for the moment. You can never predict when this moment will end
                5. Thanks to Kukuruznik - he fell in love with everything that Stalin did. After that, we (the USSR) became revisionists for China, who betrayed and sold the teachings of Marx-Lenin-Stalin. After that, I did not have to talk about any alliance with us. After all, blood came ...
                6. Do not forget the attitude of China to the conflict in Afghanistan - the support of the spirits, Pakistan on their part was far from illusory. And after the 90s, the number of military advisers in Pakistan from China just rolls over ...
                So allies, yes. Till. But to be friends against (USA) is not at all what to be friends for ...
                1. XXXIII
                  XXXIII 30 March 2018 19: 56
                  0
                  Well, we also treat them in our own way, they also do not understand much of ours. It is good that China is an ally to itself, otherwise it was necessary to maintain defense on this front. And so we only protect these lines, it does not interfere with China, and even vice versa, we trade with them through these lines. In general, if China was preparing for a war against us, he would not have hidden it ....
                  1. Ross_ulair
                    Ross_ulair 30 March 2018 20: 01
                    +1
                    About that and speech.
                    The main thing is understanding who is a friend (Serbs, as an example), who is the enemy (England. USA is a potential ally, IMHO. But so far, under the control of the neocons, is the enemy), and who is an ally in the current historical perspective (China, Iran (surprisingly, of course but 30 years ago - a clear enemy and adversary) ...)
                    Illusions do not need to be built. And do not bend under anyone. To bend your line - firmly defending your interests
                2. lance
                  lance 30 March 2018 20: 40
                  0
                  they have too many cases in Asia and Indochina (Indonesia), and they understand that the role of kamikaze against Russia has not yet grown.
                  1. Ross_ulair
                    Ross_ulair 30 March 2018 20: 44
                    +1
                    Kamikadze anyone who climbs into the Russian Federation is not for nothing that the impudent are so excited about our "Perimeter".
                    The question is different - who is on the way with us, because in the same car, and who is on the way, because for now we are going along parallel tracks
                    1. lance
                      lance 30 March 2018 20: 59
                      +1
                      at the moment, we are happy with parallel paths. until China pushes all that is south and west for us, we are partners.
                      1. Ross_ulair
                        Ross_ulair 31 March 2018 09: 44
                        0
                        Quote: Lance
                        until China pushes all that is south and west for us, we are partners.

                        And what's next? After he pinches it?
                        China now has a maximum task - to enter Afghanistan. So far, only the Americans are not letting him do it.
                        If China enters there (and there is no need to build illusions that Afghanistan did not obey anyone ... Obeyed - to Alexander the Great, who practically cut out the entire population. China will have the same methods - the Chinese are not very concerned about helping the fraternal people to build socialism as the USSR was, or by mystical human rights, like the Americans. They cut out without exception, if necessary), it automatically goes to the coast of the Persian Gulf, as well as to Iran and Iraq. Iran will gladly sell oil to China, as it’s under sanctions, and China’s gold reserves are gigantic. Same thing with gas. And there is also the Caspian near by - the second potential Persian Gulf by reserves ...
                        Only the USA prevents China from gaining independence from offshore oil supplies. And thus, by extending the pipe through Afghanistan to Iran, China will completely level the sea power of the USA in the region - it will simply cease to interest them as it is now, when the Americans can impose a sea blockade
                        Quote: Lance
                        at the moment, we are happy with parallel paths.

                        The main thing is that the paths do not cross then ...
                        On the other hand, you reason correctly - Siberia is not particularly interesting for China in terms of ensuring its own energy security: there is little infrastructure, the climate is inappropriate, oil is heavy ...
                        The Middle and Middle East looks much more interesting.
      2. Borik
        Borik 30 March 2018 17: 10
        +4
        Beautiful movie. Well done Chinese, almost for free received an aircraft carrier.
      3. san4es
        san4es 30 March 2018 17: 44
        +4
        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        ... Rather, to Taiwan.

        hi ... near Hainan Island in the South China Sea.
        As part of the PLA’s Southern Fleet military exercises, China’s Navy forces blocked a “square” of 107 square kilometers southeast of Hainan Island.
        The exercises are held in anticipation of the meeting of the Hague International Tribunal on the issue of the territorial dispute between China and the Philippines in the South China Sea. Part of the sea is claimed by Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan and Indonesia, while Beijing claims more than 90% of a million square kilometers of the water surface.
        hi

        http://www.south-insight.com/en/node/218318
      4. antivirus
        antivirus 30 March 2018 17: 51
        +1
        and all this only to control the coastal seas from Singapore to Busan.
        how much more the Chinese need to build!
        or let them not rush?
      5. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 30 March 2018 18: 51
        +1
        However, the legacy of the USSR is impressive!
      6. lis-ik
        lis-ik 30 March 2018 19: 53
        +2
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        Aristarkh Ludwigovich (Aristarkh Ludwigovich) Today, 16:59 ↑

        How insulting. it's all our technique !!!
    2. Ross_ulair
      Ross_ulair 30 March 2018 17: 00
      +4
      They have their own showdowns there: islands in the South China Sea, Taiwan, trade wars ...
      In general, its own atmosphere yes
    3. Comrade Beria
      Comrade Beria 30 March 2018 17: 01
      +2
      Why should the Chinese strain in the sea against us when there is enough land border.
      1. cast iron
        cast iron 30 March 2018 17: 23
        +1
        Take a map and look at the terrain on the border. Suddenly it will be very inconvenient for an attack.
        1. helmi8
          helmi8 30 March 2018 17: 38
          0
          Quote: cast iron
          Take a map and look at the terrain on the border. Suddenly it will be very inconvenient for an attack.

          Are you serious??? And what kind of map did you look at? Deck or globe of Ukraine?
          1. cast iron
            cast iron 30 March 2018 17: 40
            +3
            I watched it. As well as I know how difficult it was for Soviet troops to cross mountains to meet with the Japanese army. You are not afraid. Nuclear weapons make any adversary’s quantitative advantage simply useless.
            1. helmi8
              helmi8 30 March 2018 17: 47
              0
              Quote: cast iron
              As well as I know how difficult it was for Soviet troops to cross mountains to meet with the Japanese army.

              Mountains there only from the Amur region. And that’s all. Primorye and the Khabarovsk Territory are quite plain. The hills do not count; they are not everywhere there.
            2. Comrade Beria
              Comrade Beria 30 March 2018 18: 12
              +1
              Quote: cast iron
              I watched it. As well as I know how difficult it was for Soviet troops to cross mountains to meet with the Japanese army.

              Those mountains that were crossed by Soviet troops remain in the rear, because they are located in China.
              Even the film is such "Through the Gobi and Big Khingan."
      2. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 30 March 2018 18: 59
        0
        The masses of Chinese, without military efforts, will be able to oust us and are already ousting (from our supply) from Baikal and some parts of Siberia. They and the authorities will be able to be elected. So that their army is unnecessarily, there is a police force.
    4. Chertt
      Chertt 30 March 2018 17: 01
      +7
      Quote: Vard
      It is hoped that this is not about our honor.

      hi You are healthy ?? How is this possible ?? laughing
      1. AST576
        AST576 30 March 2018 17: 19
        +4
        And how about your health, Dear ..? A colleague is about if you didn’t understand for a number of reasons that hinder you, that it’s good that all of China’s power is not “about our honor." ours. Thank God, bye.
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 30 March 2018 17: 31
          +2
          Quote: AST576
          And what about your health, Dear ..?

          How about it? The Chinese lived on the fact that their entire history was engaged in armed robbery of other nations?
          1. AST576
            AST576 30 March 2018 17: 38
            +3
            And the “peaceful” seizures of the disputed islands, the bulk islands with airfields and harbors for the naval base, which are claimed by a number of Paracel Islands (I agree, a little off topic, but in the context, agree), is this not armed robbery ..?
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 30 March 2018 17: 46
              +5
              Quote: AST576
              A "peaceful" capture of the disputed islands, bulk islands with airfields and harbors for the naval base, which are claimed by a number of Paracel Islands (I agree, a little off topic, but in the context, agree)

              Can you write more specifically about disputes? We have settled all territorial disputes request
              1. AST576
                AST576 30 March 2018 17: 50
                +3
                You settled all disputes in the South China Sea ??? Then you are supposed to be honestly earned the Nobel Peace Prize ... Like Barack Husseinovich Obama. smile
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 30 March 2018 17: 54
                  +4
                  Quote: AST576
                  Have you resolved all disputes in the South China Sea ???

                  Well, you know, I thought you enlighten!
                  And we are Russia.
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 30 March 2018 18: 38
            +1
            Quote: you Vlad
            Quote: AST576
            And what about your health, Dear ..?

            How about it? The Chinese lived on the fact that their entire history was engaged in armed robbery of other nations?

            And when did China possess such power as this hour? There are forces, there are opportunities. With the advent of opportunities, desires also appear. In international politics, faith, trust are very harmful concepts.
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 March 2018 18: 08
      +4
      Quote: Vard
      It is hoped that this is not about our honor ... They have there Taiwan and more ...

      While all this wild power is our temporary allies ... the enemy is one for now.
    6. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 31 March 2018 11: 28
      0
      Quote: Vard
      It is hoped that this is not about our honor ... They have there Taiwan and more ...

      Taivan is a trifle ..
  2. Comrade Beria
    Comrade Beria 30 March 2018 17: 00
    +4
    Want peace, get ready for war. The old truth.
  3. Masya masya
    Masya masya 30 March 2018 17: 06
    +6
    why not? no one ordered to demonstrate ...
    current exercises have become "an unusual large-scale demonstration" of China's growing military power at sea
  4. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 30 March 2018 17: 07
    +2
    Good juniors from comrade C
    even from outer space this Feng Shui is noticeable, because the more pennants, the better. And I think the capabilities of weapons and dexterity of the commandants are also increasing.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 30 March 2018 18: 47
      +4
      The weapons there are domestic. +/-.

      Their Calm-1 Frigates have only 11356 missiles on 32 (11356 have 24).
      Their new 64 destroyers have universal mines for the new Caliber rockets (well, their variation of CR at 1000 + km and RCC is two-stage) and HHQ-9B - C-300ПМУ2 with elements F, later they went over the rocket thoroughly and tied the complex to their systems.
  5. dzvero
    dzvero 30 March 2018 17: 12
    +5
    According to him, the exercises are not directed against any other country or object, reports "Sight"

    Yeah, just go out and catch a fish smile
    Although the scale is impressive, it does not reach the "seven-hour nuclear war."
  6. d ^ Amir
    d ^ Amir 30 March 2018 17: 14
    +1
    here's what you say .... M-O-L-O-D-Ts-S !!! and sorry ... could be under our flag ....
  7. tchoni
    tchoni 30 March 2018 17: 26
    0
    Oh, these rice-eaters will eat us all the way to the Urals ... But maybe it’s for the best ?!
    1. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 30 March 2018 17: 30
      +5
      Yeah, when did China win the war? Even small Japan bent them as she wanted. And the quantity does not mean quality.
      1. albert
        albert 30 March 2018 20: 59
        +1
        Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
        Even little Japan bent them as she wanted

        During the Imjin War in Korea, the Chinese successfully succumbed to the Japanese. Japan's victory over China in the 20th century is primarily due to the fragmentation of China and the ongoing civil wars within it.
        1. Sands Careers General
          Sands Careers General 30 March 2018 21: 05
          +2
          During the Imjin War in Korea, the Chinese quite successfully bent the Japanese.


          Well yes, 500 years ago laughing
      2. tchoni
        tchoni 31 March 2018 10: 01
        0
        Quote: Sands Career General
        Yeah, when did China win the war? Even small Japan bent them as she wanted. And the quantity does not mean quality.

        China has 4000 (REPEAT, FOUR THOUSAND YEARS) history of statehood. For this, China bent and was bent itself. But, if you spoke directly with the Chinese, then you probably noticed that they perceive themselves as the navel of the earth. Not as a contingent nation that the English had been poisoning with the opioid for over a hundred years, but as a nation - the heir to great empires. And, if you look at their industry and economy, they have every reason for such a perception of themselves.
        1. Sands Careers General
          Sands Careers General 31 March 2018 12: 11
          +1
          Unreasonable ambitions tend to crash. In principle, China is a force to be reckoned with, but the PLA will not be able to compete on an equal footing with Russia or the United States.
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 30 March 2018 17: 39
      +5
      Quote: tchoni
      Oh, these rice-eaters will eat us all the way to the Urals ...

      When do not tell me laughing
      1. tchoni
        tchoni 31 March 2018 10: 02
        0
        Already begun .... Little by little, little by little, carefully populate the Far Eastern territories ....
        1. shans2
          shans2 31 March 2018 12: 45
          0
          only Ukrainian can write such nonsense (a person from the Outskirts) .. well, you understand ...
    3. kit88
      kit88 30 March 2018 17: 45
      +4
      Quote: tchoni
      Oh, these rice-eaters will eat us all the way to the Urals ... But maybe it’s for the best ?!

      We have enough people who want to surrender to NATO to drink Bavarian. And they are called liberals.
      You want to surrender to the Chinese. Excuse me, are you a liberal masochist?
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 30 March 2018 19: 39
        +1
        Quote: kit88
        Quote: tchoni
        Oh, these rice-eaters will eat us all the way to the Urals ... But maybe it’s for the best ?!

        We have enough people who want to surrender to NATO to drink Bavarian. And they are called liberals.
        You want to surrender to the Chinese. Excuse me, are you a liberal masochist?

        Liberal - a patriot, surrendered the country in good hands .... lol
      2. tchoni
        tchoni 31 March 2018 09: 53
        0
        Quote: kit88
        Excuse me, are you a liberal masochist?

        God forgive) Yes, yes, I'm a liberal. Never a masochist. Yes, I acknowledge the existence of other points of view. But this does not mean that I am not ready to defend my point of view, my principles and my country.
  8. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 30 March 2018 17: 26
    +5
    It's time to get used to the Chinese AUG at sea. So far, only in their seas, but soon the geography will expand ..
  9. Ascetic
    Ascetic 30 March 2018 17: 46
    +5
    China often conducts exercises there, including jointly with us. “Marine Interaction -2016” is an extreme exercise jointly with Russia, which became the fifth in a row.
    And Liaoning is not the first time making a trip to the waters of the disputed islands, for the first time in January 2017.

    According to retired Yue Gang, Colonel of the People's Liberation Army of China, maneuvers are likely to be an answer to the exercises conducted in the South China Sea by the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier in February this year.

    In addition, maneuvers are also intended to show China’s disappointment with the fact that, under the pretext of freedom of navigation, US warships regularly sail into the disputed waters claimed by China.

    “This is by far the largest operation in the South China Sea,” the publication cites Ghana, who saw in such actions by China the country's desire to demonstrate that the fact that the American aircraft carrier has been in the region for such a long time does not scare her .

    According to experts, the exercises of the Chinese Navy were also called upon to demonstrate the country's firm stance on Taiwan.

    Original news InoTV:
    https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2018-03-30/Financial
    -Times-Kitaj-nemeknul-Zapadu
  10. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 30 March 2018 18: 12
    +1
    "[quote] [/ quote] A large-scale reduction of the PRC land army (a challenge to the Russian Federation) in favor of the Navy (a challenge to the US and Japan). This suggests a change in the expansionist policy of the PRC.
    Do not forget about Vietnam. Almost 40 years ago, on the border, the fighting was quite imaginary. Only the USSR, surrounding China both on land and from the sea, scared him seriously. By the way, anyone who thinks that China has forgotten this Russian trick is very wrong: in the PLA Museum there is a Soviet tank captured 50 years ago at Damansky (JinBaoDao). By the way, the island then had to give China.
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 30 March 2018 19: 45
      0
      On dry land they will not be killed, except for the cradles, and at sea they can portray something until they receive from the Japanese with the support of the United States.
    2. albert
      albert 30 March 2018 21: 02
      0
      If not Marked, the Chinese would not have received Damansky. He gave them to him. When will this reptile die?
  11. donavi49
    donavi49 30 March 2018 18: 54
    +4
    Well, the Chinese are now implementing the program of the new fleet of Chshe He.

    Just to understand the scope of one photo from the Far:

    In the foreground 11 destroyer 052D Chengdu (the lead destroyer of this Kunming project was surrendered in the 2014 year).
    Armament 64 universal mine for heavy missiles - HHQ9B (C-300) / YJ-18 (Caliber).

    In the background are the 3 and 4 hulls of the destroyers of the 055 project (in the photo there are already 6 ships, the lead one is being completed afloat, the serial is being prepared for launch, two hulls at Dalniy and another new one are laid at the end of 2017).
    Armament 112 universal mines for heavy missiles.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 30 March 2018 18: 55
      +3
      Well, their new AB will soon go to sea. Forests are being taken apart.
  12. Lesorub
    Lesorub 30 March 2018 18: 58
    +1
    Well done Chinese, with their economic development - you can show your ambitions (as they say, exercises just do not take place). )))
  13. Oprychnik2
    Oprychnik2 30 March 2018 19: 00
    +1
    While two tigers fight, a monkey sits on a tree. Mao.
  14. Alexey N
    Alexey N 30 March 2018 19: 02
    0
    Hainan is much southwest of Taiwan, and so far away from us.
    If so, then row the squadron to Taiwan first, then to the Liaodong Peninsula (Korea) and then to Vladivostok just a stone's throw.
    Both Taiwan and Korea are centers of tension, near Okinawa with an Amer base.
    The Chinese are wary.
  15. garnik
    garnik 30 March 2018 19: 58
    +1
    Strengthening China is not acceptable to us. At any time, they can sniff from the USA, and they also need territories like air. We need to strengthen India. They can distract the Chinese themselves.
    1. lance
      lance 30 March 2018 20: 54
      +1
      the second time I say, China has too many cases in Asia and Indonesia, they are not ready for the role of kamikaze with the Russian Federation. As for the Fatherland issue, it’s complicated, but yesterday’s, its transfer and resolution of the border issue is still more important. the Chinese now have nothing to demand and ask.
  16. Amper
    Amper 30 March 2018 20: 35
    0
    No illusions about the lack of claims of our elder brother of China to the territories to the Urals. Partially, he is already there. China's ambitions are great! Now he is crushing Africa - the richest region. And formally, with the help of d / in the Russian Federation, corrupt officials crush d / in the region. I think that the future of Russia is a province of Great China, happier than with thieves, swindlers and red nano officials.
    Life of the People under a respected government? In the framework of the state that rules the world !?
    1. Ross_ulair
      Ross_ulair 30 March 2018 20: 46
      +3
      Living under someone, or living your own mind - do you catch the difference?
      Oh, sorry, the cons were canceled for comments ...
      To write such nonsense is not something. They were called defeatists at one time. And despised.
      Without respect, Michael
  17. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 30 March 2018 20: 52
    0
    It’s time for Russia to choose the tactics for the Chinese ancient saying ..
    "If you sit by the river for a long time, then sooner or later you will see the corpse of your enemy passing by .."
    But alas, we Russians can’t stand it for a long time ... angry laughing
    1. lance
      lance 30 March 2018 21: 26
      +1
      China, unlike the Europeans, teaches history well, therefore, it is afraid of the floating rivers of joint bodies. the first wave of earning has subsided. those who remain and take root do not carry a threat, they seek the truth, unlike our Asians.
  18. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 30 March 2018 23: 26
    0
    43 ships of the 1st and 2nd rank. An invincible armada, as it were ... wink
  19. Catfish
    Catfish 30 March 2018 23: 49
    +5
    Quote: Amper
    No illusions about the lack of claims of our elder brother of China to the territories to the Urals. Partially, he is already there. China's ambitions are great! Now he is crushing Africa - the richest region. And formally, with the help of d / in the Russian Federation, corrupt officials crush d / in the region. I think that the future of Russia is a province of Great China, happier than with thieves, swindlers and red nano officials.
    Life of the People under a respected government? In the framework of the state that rules the world !?


    I believe that you have not seen photos of our border guards killed by the Chinese on ice near Damansky. If you had seen, it would hardly have been written. They were already mutilated by the dead with knives, and not just their faces. I can imagine how such a "respected government will rule the world."

    I served an emergency in the Trans-Baikal Military District, 54th Separate TP in the EAO, p. Babstovo. The chiefs of staffs of different units, after the events on Damansky, were sent there. Here is our chief of staff and brought these photos. They showed everyone. For the rest of my life I remembered. And you are a "province of Great China" ... And how do you feel about it after that? And write the same. fool
    1. lance
      lance 31 March 2018 10: 11
      0
      goats ugly dead bodies missing in all countries of the world. China for this bitterly paid more than 10 thousand. killed. knowing the history of the current generation is trying to avoid this topic, and without twitching. it means something.
      1. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice April 1 2018 17: 23
        0
        China for this bitterly paid more than 10 thousand.

        They didn’t even notice it :)
  20. lance
    lance 31 March 2018 10: 00
    0
    Ross_ulair,
    nothing, we already went to Afghanistan, even if the Chinese go. the United States with kaolitsii there on the rights of a poor relative and I want to bite and not how. now the Afghan is not climbing directly to us. learned something. I think the Chinese will be there too.
  21. gorenina91
    gorenina91 31 March 2018 14: 08
    0
    -Yes, it’s good that China spends huge amounts of money on the creation of the Navy. Especially aircraft carriers (the type of the Navy is of little use in modern warfare) ...- In the end, China will eliminate itself in this arms race ...
    -And China was too late to attack Russia ... -Now nothing will break off for him ...
    -China today is very bluffing a lot and in many directions ... -That fools the whole honest world with the creation of the Silk Road .., then with the construction of the Navy .., then with some fake successes in the economy ... - in science and technology ...
    -Today, he still manages to fool the world community this way ... -But tomorrow is not for China ...
    -China has no future ... -all of his hopes of conquering the world ...- are simply illusory ...
    - The Americans already understood that both Western Europe and the Middle East ... -But Russia somehow "didn’t understand" ... - pursues an incomprehensible policy ...- supports China with the supply of new weapons and continues to transfer new technologies to China. .. -kind of weird...
    -China would have collapsed a long time ago if the USA would not have established “close relations” with it ... -That the Americans wanted to finish off Russia easily and easily ... but they didn’t succeed ... -And now China already the USA is not needed ... and the USA can easily start a new game against China ... -Even after the fall of China, hundreds of millions of hungry Chinese will flood ...- again ... to Russia ... -And this is also kind of for Russia "new war" ...
    1. lance
      lance April 1 2018 20: 24
      0
      Well then, how do you offer China to use its own, I am in the Russian manner, lazy (leolin) under our squadrons? while forging repair.
  22. Catfish
    Catfish 31 March 2018 22: 58
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    43 ships of the 1st and 2nd rank. An invincible armada, as it were ... wink


    Good evening, Alexey.
    It's good. You are talking about an armada. Especially if you recall the Spanish. So there is a Drake in Chinese, the only question is under whose flag will his ship be. smile