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So whose coal is Ukraine buying? Ukrainian official confused ...

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The head of the so-called “Donetsk Military Civil Administration of Ukraine”, Pavel Zhebrivsky, said that in the Donbass, which is not controlled by Kiev, the work of metallurgical plants and coal mines was restored. At the same time, Mr. Zhebrivsky said that Ukraine "for sure" does not buy coal mined in the territories not controlled by Kiev. At the same time, entangled in his own words, the head of the “Donetsk OVGA” announced that purchases are being made from Russia, which in Ukraine is called the “aggressor”, but this coal is “nedonbasi”.


From the statement of Zhebrivsky, who tried to do everything to “get out” of the situation with the question of what kind of coal for its CHP and metallurgical facilities and from whom Ukraine buys today:

They (DNR) launched the work of factories and mines. Enakievsky Metallurgical Plant was run there a little bit, Makeevsky Metallurgical Plant was operating a little bit, some mines are operating, for example, Komsomolets Donbassa, Skochinsky Mine, them. Zasyadko, which give quite serious coals. They also launched some coke ovens. And in principle, coke goes both to the metallurgical plants of the Donetsk region, temporarily occupied, and to Russia.


So, Ukraine, signing contracts with Russia, buys coal, it is extracted in the DNI?

Zhebrivsky:
Even if Ukraine takes anthracite coal from Russia, then customs check at the border, and anthracite coal can be distinguished, which is mined in the territory of the temporarily occupied part of the Donetsk region and in the Rostov or other regions of Russia.


According to Zhebrivsky, “customs officers have not confirmed a single case” of Ukraine’s buying coal from Russia mined in the DPR.

So whose coal is Ukraine buying? Ukrainian official confused ...


And all of Zhebrivsky and the customs officers, of course, took their word for it ...

By the way, persons who, as it were, are carrying out the "blockade" of railway tracks, have previously stated that not a single ton of coal from Russia has reached Ukraine. Maydannaya logic.
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  1. Andrey K
    Andrey K 30 March 2018 16: 49
    +23
    ... Ukraine "definitely" does not buy coal mined in territories not controlled by Kiev ...

    Old joke already wassat
    ... one can distinguish anthracite coal, which is mined in the territory of the temporarily occupied part of the Donetsk region and in the territory of Rostov ...

    Have you introduced a coal sommelier job?
    And also a sniffer, to distinguish the gas of free Europe from AHXHressorsky lol
    The beaters hang noodles to other beaters wassat
    Not a country, but a Mesozoic reserve laughing
    1. Anti-Corr.
      Anti-Corr. 30 March 2018 16: 59
      +7
      Quote: Andrey K
      Old joke already

      Joke? But Pasha Dremova is not for that little piece of coal ...? In general, everything is disgusting ...
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 30 March 2018 17: 09
        +9
        Quote: Anti-Corr.
        ...Joke? But Pasha Dremova is not for that little piece of coal ...? In general, everything is disgusting ...

        Do you have information about the assassination attempt at Dremov due to coal?
        How do you kill Dremov two years ago, tie him to the "concerns" of Zhebrivsky?
        Maybe well, it’s in FIG, to cast a shadow over the wattle fence.
        1. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 30 March 2018 17: 49
          +2
          Quote: Andrey K
          Maybe well, it’s in FIG, to cast a shadow over the wattle fence.

          Maybe in FIG, maybe "shadow on the fence", only
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 30 March 2018 18: 20
            +6
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            ... Maybe in figs, maybe "shadow on the fence", only ...

            Alex, buddy!
            What do you instead of talking about the anecdotal experiences of Zhebrivsky, glue any conspiracy thesis on the branch ???
            There will be a theme for Dremov, an LDNR policy - here we argue hoarse with you or vice versa, we will shoulder shoulder to shoulder - to defend one point of view.
            Alex, good already!
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              1. Andrey K
                Andrey K 30 March 2018 19: 20
                +6
                Quote: Anti-Corr.
                ... The man said for the coal of Donbass. What is wrong? ...

                I said coal from the Appalachian basin of the USA. What's next? We do not stick everywhere clairvoyants. Analysts from the OBS sect (one grandmother said).
                Quote: Anti-Corr.
                ... Or maybe we don’t supply blades for rotorcraft as Kaklyak-Kalyat-fascist benders? ...

                The elderberry garden, and the uncle in Kiev. An article about the corner of Donbass ...
                Quote: Anti-Corr.
                ... Or maybe, all the same, "comrade investigator" we sit and think, or you? Or do you also have a pension? I always had a question if the officer changed the oath ... what next? Or did the cops take another oath? ...

                Where are you sending me tosses to think. Delusions, not related to the topic of the article to ponder?
                Ok, I have nothing more to do, how can I comment on this flood?
                My pension, which side of you and the topic of the article?
                The betrayal of the oath again, how does it relate to the topic of the article on coal?
                And here are the "cops" (what kind of lumpen slang - the profession was called a policeman)?
                Man, calm down, good flood.
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              2. Serg65
                Serg65 30 March 2018 19: 21
                +5
                Quote: Anti-Corr.
                I always had a question if the officer changed the oath ... what next?

                This is what you wrote in vain Lesha !!!!!!
                Did you remember the oath? And when, from 87, you fucking commies, the army began to interfere with manure. Well, you did not remember the oath? He pokes the oath here. I went under Hammer and Sickle until 96, where was your scumbag Zyuganov when the sailors of the CCF stole from each other the hunger of the crust of bread crust of bread so as not to die? Well, you didn’t remember about the oath when you guys are conscripts. the honor and conscience of the Soviet people, in Tbilisi, Baku, Dushamba, Fegan, Osh thrown under bullets?
                In vain you talked about the oath, oh in vain
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          2. Serg65
            Serg65 30 March 2018 19: 03
            +4
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            Maybe in FIG

            Alexei, does Putin owe something to Dremov? So screams as if Putin walks him in the sixes! If Plotnitsky did not suit him. why didn’t the question decide?
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    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 30 March 2018 17: 00
      +4
      Ukraine has long been buying a coal from South Africa .. Yaytsenyuk has long stated this, now he is "resting" pleased!
      But DNR well done restore industry!
    3. 210ox
      210ox 30 March 2018 17: 19
      +1
      Write in the eyes, all the same, God's dew.
      Quote: Andrey K
      ... Ukraine "definitely" does not buy coal mined in territories not controlled by Kiev ...

      Old joke already wassat
      ... one can distinguish anthracite coal, which is mined in the territory of the temporarily occupied part of the Donetsk region and in the territory of Rostov ...

      Have you introduced a coal sommelier job?
      And also a sniffer, to distinguish the gas of free Europe from AHXHressorsky lol
      The beaters hang noodles to other beaters wassat
      Not a country, but a Mesozoic reserve laughing
    4. Felix99
      Felix99 30 March 2018 17: 36
      +3
      Power plants in the USSR were designed for specific grades of coal mined at specific mines and replacing this mixture is extremely problematic; there will be problems with the combustion of coal, and accordingly with the wear and breakdown of the power plant, the environment, and efficiency. In order to burn one ship of coal from South Africa, you need to mix it with ten or thirty volumes of coal mined specifically in the Donbass and in mines built for a specific power plant. At the coal warehouse of each power plant, the accepted coal is mixed - “Average” by distributing each wagon with coal over the entire area of ​​the coal warehouse.
      If you are the owner of a power plant, will you risk several billion dollars?
      Power plants continue to burn anthracite from Torez and Snezhnogo, otherwise it is simply not given.
      1. karish
        karish 30 March 2018 18: 05
        +1
        Quote: Felix99
        Power plants in the USSR were designed for specific grades of coal mined at specific mines and replacing this mixture is extremely problematic

        No, not a problem.
        Coal before being blown into the boiler is ground with millimeter particles
        The nozzles (relatively speaking) and the angle of inclination change depending on the type of coal.
        Quote: Felix99
        ecology, efficiency

        coal is slightly different in all deposits, but finding coal of comparable characteristics is not a problem.
        How many times have I been to the main dispatching station of a thermal power plant - there is a sign of used coal hanging near the boiler control panel.
        I saw both Russian and Polish and South Africa, from LatAmerica (I do not remember the country)
        Quote: Felix99
        mined precisely in the Donbass and precisely in the mines built for a specific power plant.

        Strange
        Quote: Felix99
        If you are the owner of a power plant, will you risk several billion dollars?

        Well, of course not, but why are we talking about billions?
        None of your TPPs are worth so much.
      2. vasya.pupkin
        vasya.pupkin 31 March 2018 12: 15
        +1
        Felix: in Snezhnoye, coal is currently mined by only one Zarya mine, which gives everything to the Starobeshevskaya CHPP, 90% of its energy goes to Mariupol.
    5. antivirus
      antivirus 30 March 2018 17: 43
      0
      Why are you all laughing at people!
      they buy Mongolian coal.
    6. svp67
      svp67 30 March 2018 18: 11
      +2
      Quote: Andrey K
      Have you introduced a coal sommelier job?

      And how does it distinguish coal mined in one coal basin? Honestly, I can’t imagine ... But maybe he is inspired by the ideas of the Maidan and is capable of it ....
      And one more thing:
      They (DNR) launched the work of factories and mines. Enakievsky Metallurgical Plant was run there a little bit, Makeevsky Metallurgical Plant was operating a little bit, some mines are operating, for example, Komsomolets Donbassa, Skochinsky Mine, them. Zasyadko, which give quite serious coals. They also launched some coke ovens. And in principle, coke goes both to the metallurgical plants of the Donetsk region, temporarily occupied, and to Russia.
      They also collect buses and tractors ... But the main thing is different. This is a SENTENCE to all Maidan Ukraine. People who are actually on the front line do not give up, not only fight, but also work, reviving production. How does this differ with Ukraine, where production is created in the western regions and completely destroyed in the eastern and southern
    7. major147
      major147 30 March 2018 20: 01
      +1
      I was in Zverevo at relatives. They live near the railway. So constantly from the LDNR coal trains go south.
    8. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 30 March 2018 20: 59
      +3
      Quote: Andrey K
      The beaters hang noodles to other beaters. Not a country, but a Mesozoic reserve
      There is such a film - "Dumb, Dumber." Wasn't the scriptwriter drawing images and prototypes from Urkaina?
  2. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 30 March 2018 16: 50
    +5
    I imagine with spades millions of tons of coal rechecked at the border.
    1. Anti-Corr.
      Anti-Corr. 30 March 2018 17: 00
      0
      Quote: Sith Lord
      I imagine with spades millions of tons of coal rechecked at the border.

      Colleague, what boundaries do you mean?
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K 30 March 2018 17: 00
      +9
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      ... I imagine with shovels millions of tons of coal rechecked at the border ...

      Sergei hi
      Or maybe really so? repeat
      Hand over a shovel and let them do business - they are looking for "separatist" coal, in AHXKhresorsky lol
      Everything will be more sense than shaking the rest of the cerebellum on jumpers laughing
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 30 March 2018 17: 29
        +3
        Quote: Andrey K
        Or maybe really so?

        Andrei hi I agree with you that the horses need it, and also try on the tongue and smell.
        By the way, persons who, as it were, are carrying out the "blockade" of railway tracks, have previously stated that not a single ton of coal from Russia has reached Ukraine. Maydannaya logic.

        Semen Semenchenko and Vovchik Parasyuk once said so they ate the coals. hi
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 30 March 2018 17: 44
          +5
          Quote: vovanpain
          ... Semen Semenchenko and Vovchik Parasyuk once said so they ate the coals. hi...

          Vladimir hi
          Here you are nits wassat
          Vague suspicions tormented me laughing
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    3. Lelek
      Lelek 30 March 2018 17: 11
      +5
      Quote: Sith Lord
      I imagine with spades millions of tons of coal rechecked at the border.

      hi , Sergei.
      The most amazing thing is that people eats it, dancing with pleasure, although, as Ukrainian polls show, not all pots on their heads are in a state of boiling (on the question of whether the former Ukraine is going the right way):
      1. izya top
        izya top 30 March 2018 17: 39
        +7
        hi
        Quote: Lelek
        The most amazing thing is that people get it, dancing with pleasure

    4. svp67
      svp67 30 March 2018 18: 13
      +1
      Quote: Sith Lord
      I imagine with spades millions of tons of coal rechecked at the border.

      Hmm, a shovel .... And where to get it? Broom and dustpan, plastic everything that is ...
  3. Masya masya
    Masya masya 30 March 2018 16: 52
    +9
    And all of Zhebrivsky and the customs officers, of course, took their word for it ...

    "gentlemen" ep ...
  4. AST576
    AST576 30 March 2018 16: 55
    +6
    Anyone else. Capitalism, panimash, as our beloved First President once said ... wink And they don’t disdain DNRovsky. Secretly, essno ...
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya 30 March 2018 16: 59
      +9
      whose mark will stick, that and coal ... wink
      wink
  5. Dormidont
    Dormidont 30 March 2018 16: 58
    +1
    Svidomity swallow any hutspu
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 March 2018 17: 02
    +6
    Well, this can be reliably done only by chemical analysis ... And so, the customs officers taste and feel that the coal is “right” in the whole train ...
    1. miner
      miner 30 March 2018 17: 40
      +1
      It seems like the contract for the supply of coal stipulates the chemical composition and size of the fractions. Deviation of properties from those prescribed in the contract is punishable by a heavy fine. For a specialist, chemical analysis data is like fingerprints. Each coal deposit has its own chemical composition. It can be different, even in mines standing on the same field.
      1. karish
        karish 30 March 2018 18: 06
        0
        Quote: miner
        It seems like the contract for the supply of coal stipulates the chemical composition and size of the fractions. Deviation of properties from those prescribed in the contract is punishable by a heavy fine. For a specialist, chemical analysis data is like fingerprints. Each coal deposit has its own chemical composition. It can be different, even in mines standing on the same field.

        good
        Absolutely correct.
    2. andj61
      andj61 30 March 2018 17: 44
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, this can be reliably done only by chemical analysis ... And so, the customs officers taste and feel that the coal is “right” in the whole train ...

      If coal is from the Rostov Region, then no analysis can be distinguished: the coal basin is one, sometimes the deposit is the same. But a large amount of coal to Ukraine comes from Kuzbass, and cheaper LDNRovsky to our consumers. hi
  7. Berkut154
    Berkut154 30 March 2018 17: 22
    +3
    He would have to work with a thimble ... I’m confused in half of his text laughing
  8. Irek
    Irek 30 March 2018 17: 35
    +3
    They also have their own gas ...
  9. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 30 March 2018 17: 36
    +3
    “Customs officers have not confirmed a single case” of Ukraine’s purchase of coal from Russia, mined in the DNI


    And in the LPR? laughing

    Our coal is going to Russia and a lot, I saw it myself. And far further, it is not known for certain, but most likely from Novorossiysk to Odessa under the guise of an American and a frantic price))))
    In Anthracite, production is also slowly being launched.
  10. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 30 March 2018 17: 49
    0
    lying and not blushing. under the guise of Coal from Pennsylvania Buy at its price coal of the Russian Federation and margin in your pocket, what’s to be guessed, it’s clear like a white day.
  11. alavrin
    alavrin 30 March 2018 17: 52
    0
    Now I will know that Ukrainian customs officers are the largest experts in anthracite coal.
  12. san4es
    san4es 30 March 2018 18: 00
    +2
    hi another Falcon launch. For the flood - sorry
  13. nivander
    nivander 30 March 2018 18: 05
    0
    here to play here not to play, but here I was wrapping fish
  14. ded100
    ded100 30 March 2018 18: 15
    +1
    In spoke Klitschko number 2! wassat
  15. Terenin
    Terenin 31 March 2018 08: 03
    +3
    Why argue? I am satisfied with this wording: Pavel Zhebrivsky said that in the Donbass, not controlled by Kiev, the work of metallurgical plants and coal mines was restored.
  16. nod739
    nod739 April 1 2018 21: 24
    0
    customs officers can distinguish coal brands only according to documents,
    to say exactly what kind of coal is in front of you - you need a chemical analysis
    it is impossible to distinguish anthracite from anthracite by eye, even a specialist cannot do it ....
    Is it all the same that how to distinguish a birch grown near Moscow from a birch grown near Minsk?