So whose coal is Ukraine buying? Ukrainian official confused ...

The head of the so-called “Donetsk Military Civil Administration of Ukraine”, Pavel Zhebrivsky, said that in the Donbass, which is not controlled by Kiev, the work of metallurgical plants and coal mines was restored. At the same time, Mr. Zhebrivsky said that Ukraine "for sure" does not buy coal mined in the territories not controlled by Kiev. At the same time, entangled in his own words, the head of the “Donetsk OVGA” announced that purchases are being made from Russia, which in Ukraine is called the “aggressor”, but this coal is “nedonbasi”.

From the statement of Zhebrivsky, who tried to do everything to “get out” of the situation with the question of what kind of coal for its CHP and metallurgical facilities and from whom Ukraine buys today:

They (DNR) launched the work of factories and mines. Enakievsky Metallurgical Plant was run there a little bit, Makeevsky Metallurgical Plant was operating a little bit, some mines are operating, for example, Komsomolets Donbassa, Skochinsky Mine, them. Zasyadko, which give quite serious coals. They also launched some coke ovens. And in principle, coke goes both to the metallurgical plants of the Donetsk region, temporarily occupied, and to Russia.

So, Ukraine, signing contracts with Russia, buys coal, it is extracted in the DNI?

Zhebrivsky:

Even if Ukraine takes anthracite coal from Russia, then customs check at the border, and anthracite coal can be distinguished, which is mined in the territory of the temporarily occupied part of the Donetsk region and in the Rostov or other regions of Russia.

According to Zhebrivsky, “customs officers have not confirmed a single case” of Ukraine’s buying coal from Russia mined in the DPR.

And all of Zhebrivsky and the customs officers, of course, took their word for it ...

By the way, persons who, as it were, are carrying out the "blockade" of railway tracks, have previously stated that not a single ton of coal from Russia has reached Ukraine. Maydannaya logic.

Comments

[Andrey K]

... Ukraine "definitely" does not buy coal mined in territories not controlled by Kiev ...

Old joke already

... one can distinguish anthracite coal, which is mined in the territory of the temporarily occupied part of the Donetsk region and in the territory of Rostov ...

Have you introduced a coal sommelier job?
And also a sniffer, to distinguish the gas of free Europe from AHXHressorsky
The beaters hang noodles to other beaters
Not a country, but a Mesozoic reserve

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Andrey K

Old joke already

Joke? But Pasha Dremova is not for that little piece of coal ...? In general, everything is disgusting ...

[Andrey K]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

...Joke? But Pasha Dremova is not for that little piece of coal ...? In general, everything is disgusting ...

Do you have information about the assassination attempt at Dremov due to coal?
How do you kill Dremov two years ago, tie him to the "concerns" of Zhebrivsky?
Maybe well, it’s in FIG, to cast a shadow over the wattle fence.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Andrey K

Maybe well, it’s in FIG, to cast a shadow over the wattle fence.

Maybe in FIG, maybe "shadow on the fence", only

[Andrey K]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

... Maybe in figs, maybe "shadow on the fence", only ...

Alex, buddy!
What do you instead of talking about the anecdotal experiences of Zhebrivsky, glue any conspiracy thesis on the branch ???
There will be a theme for Dremov, an LDNR policy - here we argue hoarse with you or vice versa, we will shoulder shoulder to shoulder - to defend one point of view.
Alex, good already!

[Andrey K]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

... The man said for the coal of Donbass. What is wrong? ...

I said coal from the Appalachian basin of the USA. What's next? We do not stick everywhere clairvoyants. Analysts from the OBS sect (one grandmother said).

Quote: Anti-Corr.

... Or maybe we don’t supply blades for rotorcraft as Kaklyak-Kalyat-fascist benders? ...

The elderberry garden, and the uncle in Kiev. An article about the corner of Donbass ...

Quote: Anti-Corr.

... Or maybe, all the same, "comrade investigator" we sit and think, or you? Or do you also have a pension? I always had a question if the officer changed the oath ... what next? Or did the cops take another oath? ...

Where are you sending me tosses to think. Delusions, not related to the topic of the article to ponder?
Ok, I have nothing more to do, how can I comment on this flood?
My pension, which side of you and the topic of the article?
The betrayal of the oath again, how does it relate to the topic of the article on coal?
And here are the "cops" (what kind of lumpen slang - the profession was called a policeman)?
Man, calm down, good flood.

[Serg65]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

I always had a question if the officer changed the oath ... what next?

This is what you wrote in vain Lesha !!!!!!
Did you remember the oath? And when, from 87, you fucking commies, the army began to interfere with manure. Well, you did not remember the oath? He pokes the oath here. I went under Hammer and Sickle until 96, where was your scumbag Zyuganov when the sailors of the CCF stole from each other the hunger of the crust of bread crust of bread so as not to die? Well, you didn’t remember about the oath when you guys are conscripts. the honor and conscience of the Soviet people, in Tbilisi, Baku, Dushamba, Fegan, Osh thrown under bullets?
In vain you talked about the oath, oh in vain

[Serg65]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

Maybe in FIG

Alexei, does Putin owe something to Dremov? So screams as if Putin walks him in the sixes! If Plotnitsky did not suit him. why didn’t the question decide?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Ukraine has long been buying a coal from South Africa .. Yaytsenyuk has long stated this, now he is "resting" pleased!
But DNR well done restore industry!

[210ox]

Write in the eyes, all the same, God's dew.

Quote: Andrey K

... Ukraine "definitely" does not buy coal mined in territories not controlled by Kiev ...

Old joke already

... one can distinguish anthracite coal, which is mined in the territory of the temporarily occupied part of the Donetsk region and in the territory of Rostov ...

Have you introduced a coal sommelier job?
And also a sniffer, to distinguish the gas of free Europe from AHXHressorsky
The beaters hang noodles to other beaters
Not a country, but a Mesozoic reserve

[Felix99]

Power plants in the USSR were designed for specific grades of coal mined at specific mines and replacing this mixture is extremely problematic; there will be problems with the combustion of coal, and accordingly with the wear and breakdown of the power plant, the environment, and efficiency. In order to burn one ship of coal from South Africa, you need to mix it with ten or thirty volumes of coal mined specifically in the Donbass and in mines built for a specific power plant. At the coal warehouse of each power plant, the accepted coal is mixed - “Average” by distributing each wagon with coal over the entire area of ​​the coal warehouse.
If you are the owner of a power plant, will you risk several billion dollars?
Power plants continue to burn anthracite from Torez and Snezhnogo, otherwise it is simply not given.

[karish]

Quote: Felix99

Power plants in the USSR were designed for specific grades of coal mined at specific mines and replacing this mixture is extremely problematic

No, not a problem.
Coal before being blown into the boiler is ground with millimeter particles
The nozzles (relatively speaking) and the angle of inclination change depending on the type of coal.

Quote: Felix99

ecology, efficiency

coal is slightly different in all deposits, but finding coal of comparable characteristics is not a problem.
How many times have I been to the main dispatching station of a thermal power plant - there is a sign of used coal hanging near the boiler control panel.
I saw both Russian and Polish and South Africa, from LatAmerica (I do not remember the country)

Quote: Felix99

mined precisely in the Donbass and precisely in the mines built for a specific power plant.

Strange

Quote: Felix99

If you are the owner of a power plant, will you risk several billion dollars?

Well, of course not, but why are we talking about billions?
None of your TPPs are worth so much.

[vasya.pupkin]

Felix: in Snezhnoye, coal is currently mined by only one Zarya mine, which gives everything to the Starobeshevskaya CHPP, 90% of its energy goes to Mariupol.

[antivirus]

Why are you all laughing at people!
they buy Mongolian coal.

[svp67]

Quote: Andrey K

Have you introduced a coal sommelier job?

And how does it distinguish coal mined in one coal basin? Honestly, I can’t imagine ... But maybe he is inspired by the ideas of the Maidan and is capable of it ....
And one more thing:

They (DNR) launched the work of factories and mines. Enakievsky Metallurgical Plant was run there a little bit, Makeevsky Metallurgical Plant was operating a little bit, some mines are operating, for example, Komsomolets Donbassa, Skochinsky Mine, them. Zasyadko, which give quite serious coals. They also launched some coke ovens. And in principle, coke goes both to the metallurgical plants of the Donetsk region, temporarily occupied, and to Russia.

They also collect buses and tractors ... But the main thing is different. This is a SENTENCE to all Maidan Ukraine. People who are actually on the front line do not give up, not only fight, but also work, reviving production. How does this differ with Ukraine, where production is created in the western regions and completely destroyed in the eastern and southern

[major147]

I was in Zverevo at relatives. They live near the railway. So constantly from the LDNR coal trains go south.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Andrey K

The beaters hang noodles to other beaters. Not a country, but a Mesozoic reserve

There is such a film - "Dumb, Dumber." Wasn't the scriptwriter drawing images and prototypes from Urkaina?

[Lord of the Sith]

I imagine with spades millions of tons of coal rechecked at the border.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: Sith Lord

I imagine with spades millions of tons of coal rechecked at the border.

Colleague, what boundaries do you mean?

[Andrey K]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

... I imagine with shovels millions of tons of coal rechecked at the border ...

Sergei
Or maybe really so?
Hand over a shovel and let them do business - they are looking for "separatist" coal, in AHXKhresorsky
Everything will be more sense than shaking the rest of the cerebellum on jumpers

[vovanpain]

Quote: Andrey K

Or maybe really so?

Andrei I agree with you that the horses need it, and also try on the tongue and smell.

By the way, persons who, as it were, are carrying out the "blockade" of railway tracks, have previously stated that not a single ton of coal from Russia has reached Ukraine. Maydannaya logic.

Semen Semenchenko and Vovchik Parasyuk once said so they ate the coals.

[Andrey K]

Quote: vovanpain

... Semen Semenchenko and Vovchik Parasyuk once said so they ate the coals. ...

Vladimir
Here you are nits
Vague suspicions tormented me

[Lelek]

Quote: Sith Lord

I imagine with spades millions of tons of coal rechecked at the border.

, Sergei.
The most amazing thing is that people eats it, dancing with pleasure, although, as Ukrainian polls show, not all pots on their heads are in a state of boiling (on the question of whether the former Ukraine is going the right way):

[izya top]

Quote: Lelek

The most amazing thing is that people get it, dancing with pleasure

[svp67]

Quote: Sith Lord

I imagine with spades millions of tons of coal rechecked at the border.

Hmm, a shovel .... And where to get it? Broom and dustpan, plastic everything that is ...

[Masya masya]

And all of Zhebrivsky and the customs officers, of course, took their word for it ...

"gentlemen" ep ...

[AST576]

Anyone else. Capitalism, panimash, as our beloved First President once said ... And they don’t disdain DNRovsky. Secretly, essno ...

[Masya masya]

whose mark will stick, that and coal ...

[Dormidont]

Svidomity swallow any hutspu

[Mountain shooter]

Well, this can be reliably done only by chemical analysis ... And so, the customs officers taste and feel that the coal is “right” in the whole train ...

[miner]

It seems like the contract for the supply of coal stipulates the chemical composition and size of the fractions. Deviation of properties from those prescribed in the contract is punishable by a heavy fine. For a specialist, chemical analysis data is like fingerprints. Each coal deposit has its own chemical composition. It can be different, even in mines standing on the same field.

[karish]

Quote: miner

It seems like the contract for the supply of coal stipulates the chemical composition and size of the fractions. Deviation of properties from those prescribed in the contract is punishable by a heavy fine. For a specialist, chemical analysis data is like fingerprints. Each coal deposit has its own chemical composition. It can be different, even in mines standing on the same field.

Absolutely correct.

[andj61]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Well, this can be reliably done only by chemical analysis ... And so, the customs officers taste and feel that the coal is “right” in the whole train ...

If coal is from the Rostov Region, then no analysis can be distinguished: the coal basin is one, sometimes the deposit is the same. But a large amount of coal to Ukraine comes from Kuzbass, and cheaper LDNRovsky to our consumers.

[Berkut154]

He would have to work with a thimble ... I’m confused in half of his text

[Irek]

They also have their own gas ...

[Sands Careers General]

“Customs officers have not confirmed a single case” of Ukraine’s purchase of coal from Russia, mined in the DNI

And in the LPR?

Our coal is going to Russia and a lot, I saw it myself. And far further, it is not known for certain, but most likely from Novorossiysk to Odessa under the guise of an American and a frantic price))))
In Anthracite, production is also slowly being launched.

[gloomy fox]

lying and not blushing. under the guise of Coal from Pennsylvania Buy at its price coal of the Russian Federation and margin in your pocket, what’s to be guessed, it’s clear like a white day.

[alavrin]

Now I will know that Ukrainian customs officers are the largest experts in anthracite coal.

[san4es]

another Falcon launch. For the flood - sorry

[nivander]

here to play here not to play, but here I was wrapping fish

[ded100]

In spoke Klitschko number 2!

[Terenin]

Why argue? I am satisfied with this wording: Pavel Zhebrivsky said that in the Donbass, not controlled by Kiev, the work of metallurgical plants and coal mines was restored.

[nod739]

customs officers can distinguish coal brands only according to documents,
to say exactly what kind of coal is in front of you - you need a chemical analysis
it is impossible to distinguish anthracite from anthracite by eye, even a specialist cannot do it ....
Is it all the same that how to distinguish a birch grown near Moscow from a birch grown near Minsk?