The British army began replacing small arms

The British Army began the process of replacing small weapons. The first updated machines L85A3 received a regiment of the Grenadier Guard and successfully mastered them, reports "Warspot" with reference to the portal thefirearmblog.com.

Officially, the British Ministry of Defense has not yet reported the adoption of a new machine gun, but the following message was posted on the Grenadier Guard official page on Facebook: “We are the first regiment in the British army equipped with SA80A3. Modernized weapons help us perform a variety of tasks around the world. ”

The L85A3 has a new receiver and an updated forearm with Picatinny trims. The machine gun received a freely hung barrel, which should improve the accuracy of shooting. In addition, the changes affected the ergonomics, in particular, the weapon became more maintainable and got a new fuse. The color of the machine has also changed, since L85A3 should “merge” with camouflage.

SA80 (Small Arms for 1980) is a British small arms complex developed by Royal Ordnance in 1984. The complex includes an L85 assault rifle, an L86 light machine gun, an L22 shortened assault rifle and an L98 training rifle. In this case, the name SA80 most often refers to the L85 machines. Due to frequent complaints about the unreliability of the L85 assault rifle in 2000, the German company Heckler & Koch modernized it (a new modification entered service with the British army under the name L85A2). The A3 modification was first introduced in 2016, paired with the new VIRTUS modular armor.

Comments

[Grandfather]

The British army began replacing small arms

ohhh ... clever ... and on time, take the short-barrels, it’s more convenient to shoot, I’ve seen in the movie ... time ... and brains .. or whatever ... flew out. current on our island .. we have enough here manure ...

[Wilderness]

Quote: "... a variety of tasks around the world." But can they dig trenches in black soil like Kalash?

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Wilderness

. "And can they dig trenches in black soil like Kalash?"

You can direct a prisoner of war, he even digs a subway.

[zyzx]

In the WB, the question is still acute whether the army needs automatic weapons or mobiles (and what else to call the Scots, Irish, and the British from the workers) and the floor is automatic enough. Lords think!

[Masya masya]

He’s nice to everyone, beautiful, smooth,
And not afraid of sand or dirt.
In any country, this prankster is small,
To all automatic machines, automatic Prince.
There is no "Kalash" - you count 6 without weapons,
And it can get quite a few wounds.
They are awarded, not out of friendliness,
For feats, in a number of different countries.
His misfortune, he serves everyone indiscriminately,
Bandits, terrorists and militants.
Russia and the "apple of discord"
He is not a politician and is not responsible for the bedlam.
For being compact and reliable,
For beating the enemy flawlessly.
At any foreign spot
There is no better friend than AKA.
so thoughts out loud ...

[Dezinto]

Wow .... and you talent Marina!

[Moor]

Bravo, bravo! Wonderful poems!

[d ^ Amir]

Thank you!!!!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Yes, Mary, I was not mistaken in you .. Poems are right for the soul! thank
These are our girls in Russia! And we can put the whole world on their ears for them ..

[tracer]

You forgot your loving opus to end with the usual "hehe".

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: tracer

You forgot your loving opus to end with the usual "hehe".

He's out of place here hehe

[Slovak]

They are more suitable for a two-handed sword. Raised, laid

[tracer]

They have a rainbow “sword lollipop” in fashion. Do not scare the treasurers.

[alex-cn]

"a free-hanging barrel, which should increase accuracy."
Did they also self-aim it?

[pafegosoff]

And they still have the Volklands, and the Virgin Islands. To fight with Argentina?

[vonWolfenstein]

Interestingly, what do you think should arm the British? And what can they really be based on real conditions? Without banter, and gum level jokes? AKM? or even a 7,62 mm Kalashnikov assault rifle in the masses known as the AK-47?

[Wilderness]

Why not? Do not know how to do it yourself - buy from those who can. Kalashnikov has a wide range of products for every taste and color and caliber (7.62, 5.45, 5.56). There is nothing shameful in this, the Russian Federation did not have drones - they bought from Israel, the crown did not fall off this head. Shave your soldiers? Fight with "this"?

[fdgf]

Quote: Wilderness

Do not know how to do it yourself - buy from those who can. Kalashnikov has a wide range of products

You yourself write "buy from those who know how." They do just that, bringing in Heckler & Koch.

Quote: Wilderness

for every taste and color and caliber (7.62, 5.45, 5.56)

Gee-gee-gee. And so, many times.

Quote: Wilderness

Shave your soldiers? Fight with "this"?

Why would it suddenly, armed with one of the best examples of small arms in the world, the Britons began to regret it?

[Wilderness]

Can Heckler & Koch make weapons?

[fdgf]

Quote: Wilderness

Can Heckler & Koch make weapons?

Even as they can.
If not the best, then they do one of the best in the world.

[Wilderness]

It would be nice to give examples of combat weapons, cinematic props are not needed.
Quote: "... for every taste and color and caliber (7.62, 5.45, 5.56)
Gee-gee-gee. And so, many times. "
And what's so funny?

[fdgf]

Quote: Wilderness

It would be nice to give examples of combat weapons, cinematic props are not needed.

What weapons do they produce?

Quote: Wilderness

And what's so funny?

Yes, everything is funny there.
First of all, we need to think about how to equip the Russian army with high-quality weapons.

[Wilderness]

Well, let them arm themselves with biathlon rifles or fishing rifles, what is a comedy to break?
The Russian army is already well armed with quality weapons.
In fact, the talent of Kalashnikov was not in any specific details and components of the AK, but in the fact that he understood what an assault rifle should be like (not an assault rifle, as an intelligent woman likes to flaunt today), for whom he is, in what real environment does he exist .

[fdgf]

Quote: Wilderness

The Russian army is already well armed with quality weapons.

If I were you, I wouldn’t be so sure of that.

Quote: Wilderness

In fact, the talent of Kalashnikov was not in any specific details and components of the AK, but in the fact that he understood what an assault rifle should be like (not an assault rifle, as an intelligent woman likes to flaunt today),

In at least ask what a "machine gun" is and what an "assault rifle" is.
Just in case, the AK-74 is both an assault rifle (a weapon with an SMG class rate of fire) and an assault rifle (a weapon one step “younger” than an infantry rifle).

Quote: Wilderness

for whom is he, in what real environment does he exist.

Maybe for someone it exists as a service or special weapon. But the army is not suitable as the main (infantry) weaponry. The class is not the same. And on a cartridge of 5,45x39 mm, infantry weapons cannot be obtained, the power is not the same.
Theoretically, AK can be remade under the 5,56x45 mm cartridge. And there are such samples. But this weapon will not be fully automatic due to its design features. It will be a self-loading weapon + something like a carbine-submachine gun in one bottle. Maybe even + something like an advanced submachine gun. I don’t remember exactly, I have to watch the accuracy of firing of such AKs.

[Wilderness]

I’ll answer tomorrow, alas, there’s no time (((

[Wilderness]

I'll try to start in the reverse order.
a) 5.56 I brought for example, in the line of the "hundredth" AK series, such a machine seems to be there (I personally do not see any difficulty in creating it).
b) I do not see any reason for the transition to the Western classification. In the USSR / Russia, AK is an automatic machine, in all statements and instructions it is called so (AK and not ShVK). Neither designers nor the military suffer from a national inferiority complex.
c) Regarding the rest. What is fighting the motorized rifle squad (as part of a platoon)? Machine guns of various calibers, grenades \ grenade launchers, snip. rifles, weapons BMP \ BTR. Thus, the machine is a personal, individual weapon 1x, 2x, 3x, etc. numbers of calculations of collective / group weapons, mechvodov, gunner-operators, etc. So to say whether or not it is suitable for the role of an infantry weapon is wrong. There are very important features of such weapons (in simple, Russian words): 1) ease of wear and "non-slip" - if a soldier hanging on his back interferes with a soldier while working in his military specialty, he will remove it and turn out to be unarmed; 2) impact resistance - not “strength for the sake of strength” (because AK manages to break), but the absence of “crystal”. They drop it, drop it, beat it and apply it to different hard surfaces, and all this is very, very many times; 3) resistance to dirt. Of course, it is necessary to clean, but during the war it does not always succeed (there is time - we will clean it, wipe it with a cloth, there is no time - we will shoot from what is for days and weeks). By the way, I had to dig in automatically (instead of a shovel) once.

[fdgf]

Quote: Wilderness

I'll try to start in the reverse order.
a) 5.56 I brought for example, in the line of the "hundredth" AK series, such a machine seems to be there (I personally do not see any difficulty in creating it).

You do not see it. But experts see.
Only the "legendary mechanism" is available. It is not designed for automatic aimed fire at infantry combat distances with the same recoil momentum as the 5,56x45 mm cartridge.
5,45x39 mm was not just made such a choke. Otherwise, the accuracy of automatic fire at infantry combat distances would be generally disgusting. She is now not very, but at least somewhat similar to tolerant.

Quote: Wilderness

So to say whether or not it is suitable for the role of an infantry weapon is wrong.

I understood you. Following the military theoreticians of the USSR, you deny the presence in the armies of the 2nd half of 20 in the infantry, transferring them all to the category of infantry. Those. pansegrenadiers or tank paratroopers. And they have enough assault weapons.
I want to upset you, but only the USSR adhered to this concept. And even that, forcedly - normal infantry weapons after all, they could not create. And the rest of the world is perfectly arming its armies with infantry small arms. Apparently from a lack of mind?

Quote: Wilderness

1) comfortable to wear and “non-slip”

Quote: Wilderness

2) impact resistance

Quote: Wilderness

3) resistance to dirt

All these parameters are quite satisfactory for infantry infantry normal manufacturers. And to do this, an assault weapon instead of an infantry is not necessary at all.

[Hiller]

AKM - and there is a caliber of 7.62 mm

[fdgf]

Quote: vonWolfenstein

Interestingly, what do you think should arm the British?

What they are armed with. They are doing everything right.

[Wilderness]

Quote: fdgf

Quote: Wilderness

I'll try to start in the reverse order.
a) 5.56 I brought for example, in the line of the "hundredth" AK series, such a machine seems to be there (I personally do not see any difficulty in creating it).

You do not see it. But experts see.
Only the "legendary mechanism" is available. It is not designed for automatic aimed fire at infantry combat distances with the same recoil momentum as the 5,56x45 mm cartridge.
5,45x39 mm was not just made such a choke. Otherwise, the accuracy of automatic fire at infantry combat distances would be generally disgusting. She is now not very, but at least somewhat similar to tolerant.

Quote: Wilderness

So to say whether or not it is suitable for the role of an infantry weapon is wrong.

I understood you. Following the military theoreticians of the USSR, you deny the presence in the armies of the 2nd half of 20 in the infantry, transferring them all to the category of infantry. Those. pansegrenadiers or tank paratroopers. And they have enough assault weapons.
I want to upset you, but only the USSR adhered to this concept. And even that, forcedly - normal infantry weapons after all, they could not create. And the rest of the world is perfectly arming its armies with infantry small arms. Apparently from a lack of mind?

Quote: Wilderness

1) comfortable to wear and “non-slip”

Quote: Wilderness

2) impact resistance

Quote: Wilderness

3) resistance to dirt

All these parameters are quite satisfactory for infantry infantry normal manufacturers. And to do this, an assault weapon instead of an infantry is not necessary at all.

Look at the situation on the other hand: not 5.45 suffocated, but 5.56 redundant. And what is this “infantry battle distance”? (in relation to real conditions, for example, a European theater of war) guaranteeing reliable identification of the target? (own / aliens / civilians / false targets?) in maneuverable combat? And who are these “specialists” (sales managers, shooting ranges theorists ...?)
In the USSR there were not theorists, but practitioners. It is not necessary to confuse army units fighting with an equal (at least) enemy equipment and light, specialized, counterguerrilla infantry. As well as parts of the quick response, paratroopers, etc. They play an important role, but not the main one. I have not heard that large armies renounce heavy weapons and equipment. Motorized riflemen (motorized infantry, mechanized infantry) are the basis of all ground armies.
And what is the difference between infantry and assault weapons? Where are these beautiful examples of small arms, I would like to hear the name. Of all the weapons of our time, I see (this is my personal opinion) only three really fighting around the world: AK, M4, and (not sure about the name) FAL FAL (lit up in Africa and SE Asia and Latin America, although of course this is an auto rifle). And what severe laws forbid richly packaged western PMCs to use something other than AK and M4?