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Techmash began developing ammunition for shock drones

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Concern "Tehmash" creates ammunition for drone drone, said deputy general director of the concern Alexander Kochkin on Friday at the ArmHiTech-2018 armaments exhibition.


Techmash began developing ammunition for shock drones


Another new direction of ours is the combat load to the shock drones, some work is already underway, we are creating samples
- he said.

Today, it is known about the draft drone Zenitsa and Okhotnik U plans developed in the Russian Federation (they are being created by the Simonov Design Bureau and PJSC Sukhoi). In this case, the serial supply of any drone drone in the Russian army has not yet begun.

In addition, RSK MiG this year will hold a presentation of home-made drones, including drums, company director Ilya Tarasenko told ArmHiTech-2018 weapons exhibition.

This year. Now we are discussing when it would be better to do it. We will show different types of drones while we are talking about prototypes. This will be a demonstration of their capabilities.
- RIA "News»Words Tarasenko.
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Scientific - Production Concern "Tehmash"
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  1. maxim947
    maxim947 30 March 2018 13: 56
    +2
    Techmash began developing ammunition for shock drones

    Interestingly, and at the same time it was impossible to begin the development of a drone and ammunition?
    "Zenica" was developed in Kazan, made its first flight back in 2014.
    Hunter-U began to be designed in 2012.
    Or, again, the journalists repelled ...
    1. helmi8
      helmi8 30 March 2018 14: 00
      +1
      Probably they didn’t give money for everything at once, although if it’s “shock”, then it was necessary to develop it in a complex right away ..
      1. maxim947
        maxim947 30 March 2018 14: 04
        +1
        The fact of the matter is that the complex is being developed taking into account everything, including taking into account the ammunition, and all this work is carried out in parallel. Most likely they messed up something in the message, here either those who are ready to modify will be talking about new products coming instead of existing ones.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 30 March 2018 14: 12
          +4
          An integrated approach, design development ... still let them say that design thought is in full swing !!!
          There are neighbors dill wings to the RPGshechke with a motor and fastened forward to the enemy!
          In short, we’re doing a Karlson’s rocket launcher .... well, Astrid Lingren will forgive me for such sacrilege! But if necessary, where to go!
        2. ul_vitalii
          ul_vitalii 30 March 2018 14: 13
          +6
          I think anyway we will make up for lost time and our drones, both reconnaissance and strike, will be in demand and competitive.
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 30 March 2018 14: 17
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            Quote: ul_vitalii
            I think anyway we will make up for lost time and our drones, both reconnaissance and strike, will be in demand and competitive.

            Yes, they will do everything for us ... only how many legs will break on stone priests forty years ago we made gliders and planes, and flew and dumped the cargo ... FORTY YEARS BACK! diagnosis of stagnation.
          2. Terenin
            Terenin 30 March 2018 14: 47
            +2
            I think we’ll catch up anyway.

            Greetings, Vitaliy hi So if we "woke up", then you want, you don’t want, but you have to do it. How Ilya Muromets lay on the stove for 30 years, and then you won’t stop ...
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 30 March 2018 14: 10
      +2
      Quote: maxim947
      and at the same time it was impossible to begin the development of a drone and ammunition?

      You can want it! But it doesn’t always work out. Often the situation changes: in the original project there was one “picture” and the output was another “image” ... and the bonbu should be “molded” for a specific “device.” Yes, the damned bourgeoisie of the EU and the USA also Ammunition is often made for ready-made vehicles.
      1. helmi8
        helmi8 30 March 2018 14: 28
        +2
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        But it doesn’t always work out. Often the situation changes: in the initial project there was one “picture”; and at the output, there was another “picture” ... and the bonbu should be “sculpted” for a specific “device”

        Not certainly in that way. If the UAV was originally made as a scout, then yes. And if initially as a shock, then either for a specific ammunition, or ammunition for it, you immediately need to design and produce.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 30 March 2018 15: 24
          +1
          Quote: helmi8
          then either for a specific munition, or munition for it, you immediately need to design and produce.

          Dear, of course you have to "try" (!) ... but consider our "conditions"! How many messages were there about the drones under development (including the "drums"!)? And where are they armed? "Rejected" ... (including the notorious "Scat")! And what kind of story would it have happened if "someone" began to "make a bonbu", under Skat, immediately after receiving the design TTX apparatus? Huh?
    3. Grandfather
      Grandfather 30 March 2018 14: 15
      0
      Interestingly, and at the same time it was impossible to begin the development of a drone and ammunition?
      not .... until I fell into the hands of entot ... in Syria with bonbs. from plywood and electrical tape ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 March 2018 14: 41
        +1
        We make drones, many and different, BUT as soon as they choose something specific, the time comes for UNIFICATION !!!. We will not be puzzled by MTO and THEN more than it should be!
    4. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 30 March 2018 19: 00
      +1
      Quote: maxim947
      Interestingly, and at the same time it was impossible to begin the development of a drone and ammunition?

      but to think about designing UAVs for existing ammunition - in any way? Wasn’t it enough? Or do we not have them?
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  3. senima56
    senima56 30 March 2018 14: 21
    0
    It's time to have your (!!!) drones. Especially drums! And it’s a shame to use Israeli technology and pass it off as your own.
  4. Terenin
    Terenin 30 March 2018 14: 44
    +2
    Techmash began developing ammunition for shock drones. If the name of the ammunition will be popular, my proposal to name "novice.k", because this name has passed international casting, and is very popular in the West. yes
  5. svp67
    svp67 30 March 2018 16: 30
    +2
    At the same time, serial deliveries of any strike drones to the Russian army have not yet begun.
    But on the approach of the Orion UAV, albeit reconnaissance, but capable of bearing the combat load.
    1. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 30 March 2018 18: 41
      0
      Quote: svp67
      but able to carry a combat load.

      he is not capable of carrying a combat load. The payload mass is not equal to the combat load. It’s you who you can load a bag of potato on it, but missiles - only as a load, because he can’t use them without SU. Again we give out the desired reality? And the general’s stars .. I don’t even ask how honored
      1. svp67
        svp67 30 March 2018 18: 57
        +1
        Quote: Gregory_45
        And the general’s stars .. I don’t even ask how honored

        Just like you are your major ...
        Quote: Gregory_45
        The payload mass is not equal to the combat load.

        But does not exclude her ...
        Quote: Gregory_45
        It’s you who you can load a bag of potato on it, but missiles - only as a load, because he can’t use them without SU.
        You know, and you can kill potatoes, most importantly skillfully. And the Hermes code, is it your product?
        Quote: Gregory_45
        Again we give out the desired reality?

        So far, yes, but the ability to carry 250 kg of payload gives it the right.
        1. Grigory_45
          Grigory_45 30 March 2018 19: 07
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          Quote: svp67
          Just like you are your major

          that's exactly what they are so far .. because - I am writing the right things, and not the ones you want to hear. And in life - not the Chief, but only a leading engineer. You generals, nowhere without us)

          Quote: svp67
          but the ability to carry 250 kg of payload gives it the right

          does not give. A transporter can carry several tons of load, this does not make him a bomber. This is the answer to all your comments. Why don't you learn to think? It’s not difficult, believe me .. there would be a desire.
          1. svp67
            svp67 30 March 2018 19: 39
            +1
            Quote: Gregory_45
            You generals, nowhere without us)

            Listen, this is mutual ... and you are not far away without us either ...
            Quote: Gregory_45
            A transporter can carry several tons of load, this does not make him a bomber.

            Did you come up with this yourself or who suggested it? A transport aircraft, of course, is not a full-fledged bomber, but nevertheless it has such an opportunity ...
            Here is the suspension of air bombs under the "An"

            Here he is on takeoff ...

            And about the "ganships" I generally keep quiet ..

            Quote: Gregory_45
            Why don't you learn to think?

            With the same question for you ....
            Quote: Gregory_45
            It’s not difficult, believe me .. there would be a desire

            So exert yourself, you know that it’s not difficult ...
            1. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 30 March 2018 19: 47
              0
              Quote: svp67
              So tighten up

              Well, of course, you yourself are not able to do this. I’m always almost in good shape. So that the transporter becomes a bomber, at least you need to hang a sight and devices to relieve the load on it. The creators of domestic UAVs are not puzzled by this, moreover, this is not even provided for in the ToR. All your bravura statements are a lie. A soldier's load becomes only when there are means to ensure its use on the enemy. In all other cases, it’s just a load.
              And as for Anov and others - believe me, it’s better than you know how they showed themselves. Only this does not justify your words.
              Tell me, it makes you argue on the topic, but I’ll argue, and it’s painful to stand my ground, but I will not refuse?
              1. svp67
                svp67 30 March 2018 19: 59
                +1
                Quote: Gregory_45
                So that the transporter becomes a bomber, at least you need to hang a sight on it and devices to relieve the load

                They are standard equipment.
                Quote: Gregory_45
                Tell me, it makes you argue on the topic, but I’ll argue, and it’s painful to stand my ground, but I will not refuse?

                Excuse me, but here you are "push yourself".
                1. Grigory_45
                  Grigory_45 30 March 2018 20: 10
                  0
                  Quote: svp67
                  Excuse me, but here you’re “push yourself” here

                  come on to you) are you to yourself? Then to the point. True eyes prick? Well, I understand what you wanted to say - nothing meaningful and non-binding: maybe in a hundred years this UAV will be a drummer. This is from the series: in 200 years the USA will bend, and China will devour itself, and Russia will rule. For urry patriots, a win-win option. In fact, only what is here and now matters. No wonder he said about the stars. There are military generals, and there are parquet generals.
                  In fact - you gave out wishful thinking. Alas, we don’t even want to think about the drone UAV yet. Otherwise, a clause on carrying and applying combat load would be included in the TOR on Orion. 200 kg is not bad, a pair of missiles can definitely be suspended, even taking into account the suspension of the LC. But - this is a remake of almost the entire UAV (with the exception of the glider). And alas, there are individuals like you who, to many ignorant people, fool their heads.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 30 March 2018 20: 17
                    0
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    come on you)

                    You are somehow strange. With "foam at the mouth" they proved to me about the impossibility of using the Orion UAV as a strike, and then suddenly ...
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    200 kg is not bad, a pair of missiles can definitely be suspended, even taking into account the suspension of the LC.

                    That is, is there an opportunity?
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    But - this is a rework of almost the entire UAV (with the exception of the glider)

                    And the engine also needs to be redone? Just kidding. All you need is the installation of the sighting system and all. Controls do not need to be redone. As it is not required on the same "Ana"
                    1. Grigory_45
                      Grigory_45 30 March 2018 20: 36
                      0
                      Quote: svp67
                      You are strange

                      yes, you're strange, actually) You read the comments from the very beginning, I recommend) Although, whether you understand the harm, because ... what I wrote is the truth.
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 30 March 2018 20: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        You read the comments from the very beginning, I recommend) Although, do you understand the harm, because .. what I wrote is the truth

                        Poke your finger where is she here?
                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        he is not capable of carrying a combat load.

                        Quote: Gregory_45
                        200 kg is not bad, a pair of missiles can definitely be suspended, even taking into account the suspension of the LC.
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 30 March 2018 17: 05
    +1
    It is surprising that special ammunition will be built for drone UAVs. Why not use standard systems like Whirlwind (ATGM), Attack (ATGM), but concentrate on creating aiming and fire control systems with UAVs.
    Simply, in the event of a military conflict, logistics can fail, there are no missiles for UAVs and this is just expensive rubbish.
    1. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 30 March 2018 18: 39
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      It is surprising that special ammunition will be built for shock UAVs.

      that's it. All over the world, they hang on UAVs that hang on helicopters - and live happily ever after. But we have special ammunition ((Who can explain the difference between a missile for a UAV and a missile for a helicopter? Why will the same Whirlwind not be modified from the UAV without refinement and funding? Or the same X-29? For some news, it's time for someone set against the wall, and Russia - to revive sharashka
  7. Grigory_45
    Grigory_45 30 March 2018 18: 37
    0
    Techmash began developing ammunition for shock drones

    I don’t understand one thing - why does a UAV require the development of some special ammunition? Neither those used from helicopters, nor aircraft are suitable? What is the next nonsense?
  8. Grigory_45
    Grigory_45 30 March 2018 21: 01
    0
    svp67,
    Quote: svp67
    Poke your finger where is she here?

    I can only poke at casuistry and demagoguery, as well as a dumb misunderstanding of what the other person told you. But I won’t. Do not want to understand - then you are the general. Parquet. No offense - the truth is that adequate people are not offended. hi