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Boyko Borisov: Sofia will not send Russian diplomats

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Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov said that neither Russian diplomats nor technical personnel would be expelled from the country, 3 Channel reported.


Boyko Borisov: Sofia will not send Russian diplomats


By our actions at a meeting of the Council of the EU and NATO, we provided full support to the UK. Calling our ambassador in Moscow shows that we have paid the most serious attention to the problem. But we are waiting for more evidence [of Russia’s guilt], if any, and new sanctions, including the expulsion of diplomats, for the time being will not be taken. As the chairman of the EU Council, we must preserve the channels of communication with Russia, it is our duty
- Borisov said after the meeting of the Security Council of the country.

On Friday morning, a meeting of the Security Council of Bulgaria on the "Skripal case" was held. The Security Council is headed by the Prime Minister; members of the government, heads of special services and a representative of the Bulgarian president are also included in the council.

Borisov added that the ambassador of the Republic of Bulgaria, Boyko Kotsev, who was recalled on Tuesday for consultations, would stay in Sofia for another week.


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  1. vorobey
    vorobey 30 March 2018 12: 53
    +4
    and sho it? recourse recourse request request I do not understand
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 30 March 2018 13: 13
      +4
      The thread of the South Stream has long been sharpened on Bulgaria. Only her consent is required. winked
      1. pytar
        pytar 30 March 2018 13: 16
        +11
        The thread of the South Stream has long been sharpened on Bulgaria. Only her consent is required.

        The problem is already in the last phase of the solution. The EU and all neighboring countries have approved the construction of a gas hub-Balkans near Varna. The point where all gas flows in SEE will be collected is determined. good Design work has begun. In fact, the UP project is repeated, but under a different form, which does not violate the requirements of the European Commission.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 30 March 2018 14: 27
          +4
          Quote: pytar
          The problem is already in the last phase of the solution. The EU and all neighboring countries have approved the construction of a gas hub-Balkans near Varna.

          I always wrote about this option here, that no Turkish Stream can be compared with the South. What is much more profitable to hold a branch directly to the European Union than to do it through an inconvenient intermediary, Turkey.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 30 March 2018 15: 11
            +4
            no Turkish Stream can compare with the South. What is much more profitable to hold a branch directly to the European Union

            Practice shows the opposite. It is impossible to deal with the Bulgarians, they are not an independent player. Everything is decided for them in Brussels and Washington.
            1. pytar
              pytar 30 March 2018 15: 58
              +4
              Practice shows the opposite.

              I wonder what kind of practice you personally have on Alexander UP !? bully I wonder how many "experts" there are on the gas there on the forum! lol
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 30 March 2018 16: 10
                +5
                Do you, as I understand it, consider yourself a special connoisseur of gas? Practice is not with me, but with Russia and Gazprom. The practice is that Bulgaria refused to build despite all the previous agreements and already ongoing construction work. You have shown yourself as an unreliable partner with whom you can’t deal. If you think that such an act will be able to just "chat", you are a very naive person.
                1. pytar
                  pytar 30 March 2018 16: 45
                  +7
                  You, as I understand it, you consider yourself a special connoisseur of gas?

                  Yes, I'm an expert. yes Literally. bully He worked 4 of the year in UP with the Bulgarian side. For that I say that you write nonsense. No offense to you, but it is.
                  The practice is that Bulgaria refused to build despite all the previous agreements and already ongoing construction work.

                  Have you read the agreements? lol All your "info" from the media. Do you generally know what will happen if one of the parties to the contract does not fulfill its agreed obligations?
                  you are a very naive person.

                  It happens. But in a specific case, your naivety. request
                  Okay. The topic for which we are writing is not the same. drinks
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 30 March 2018 16: 55
                    +1
                    Have you read the agreements? lol All your "info" from the media. Do you generally know what will happen if one of the parties does not fulfill its agreed obligations under the agreements?


                    On September 16, 2011, as part of the 10th International Investment Forum in Sochi, an agreement was signed on Bulgaria's participation in the South Stream project


                    November 15, 2012 - Gazprom and Bulgaria signed the final investment decision on the Bulgarian section of the gas pipeline [50].


                    And what will happen? Sorry Brothers, are you yourself to blame for not allowing us to play together in Brussels and Washington? It will be, huh? Or "sorry" and it wasn’t?
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 30 March 2018 17: 04
                      +4
                      Alexander, what are you talking about? Do you realize what you are writing? I ask you, have you read the agreements, contracts, decisions? This is not hura-moor! Which clauses of them did Bulgaria violate? If you even have a clue about the topic, you would know that if clauses in contracts are violated, a judge should be judged and the culprit convicted of paying promises! Someone else judged?
                      That was the refusal of Bulgaria to build a Belene NPP! Rosatom recently condemned Bulgaria to 700 million euros! Fact.
                      Where is UP? fellow
                      Listen, let's write about something else, otherwise they are exhibiting something wrong ... I would be in your place, it would become uncomfortable. No.
                      Better write on the topic under which we write. Maybe you’ll say something more interesting about it, which we don’t know about. bully
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 30 March 2018 17: 13
                        +2
                        That is, if there was no contract and decision binding you on the hands and feet of the court, then it was not betrayal and betrayal?

                        Are you going to talk about the fact that Gazprom began to build the infrastructure, delivered the same pipes to Varna, signed the contracts for laying the offshore section (then paid the penalty for them) without your consent?
                    2. pytar
                      pytar 30 March 2018 19: 36
                      +1
                      That is, if there was no contract and decision binding you on the hands and feet of the court, then it was not betrayal and betrayal?

                      It’s good when a person learned to write. But it will be even better if he learns and reads ... fellow
                  2. Rostovchanin
                    Rostovchanin 30 March 2018 19: 01
                    +1
                    I also gave three years of life to UP and after it was renamed into Turkish. He built the Russian CS and participated in the Cossack CS and had to work in the linear part between these CSs hi
          2. pytar
            pytar 30 March 2018 16: 02
            +5
            I always wrote about this option here, that no Turkish Stream can be compared with the South. What is much more profitable to hold a branch directly to the European Union than to do it through an inconvenient intermediary, Turkey.

            Stas, it’s clear that it is! good The decision to connect the second branch of TP directly to the gas hub of the Balkans already takes into account the norms of the European Union. With the UP of the Russian Federation and the BG they tried to get around it, but failed ... No. The United States is “vigilant” over compliance with the euro-laws when it benefits them! wink
            As for Turkey, she plays her games. It is not improbable that in her face the Russian Federation receive in time yet another “Ukraine”. Erdogan is unpredictable and when he has trump cards, he does not hesitate to use them, how beneficial it is!
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 30 March 2018 16: 20
              +1
              As for Turkey, she plays her games. It’s not out of the blue that in her face the Russian Federation receive another “Ukraine”

              They at least play their games, and whose games does Bulgaria play?
              1. pytar
                pytar 30 March 2018 16: 48
                +2
                Whose games does Bulgaria play?

                To the extent of his strength and capabilities, he defends his interests. Not for you to judge. request
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 30 March 2018 17: 11
                  +1
                  For some reason you are going to judge about Turkey. And exactly yours?
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 30 March 2018 19: 09
                    +1
                    I do not judge anyone. I quote one of the assumptions that exists in Russian info-resources. Turkey also plays in its interests. This is her right, as the right to all to protect their interests. Nothing much.
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 30 March 2018 15: 07
          +2
          the question is not in Bulgaria and the EU, but in the division of the influence of the Russian Federation in the Balkans.
          They are tearing the edge for this - to close the vector of Kremlin influence in SEE

          there are interests of Germany and others from the EU. bargaining for part of the Soviet influence.
          The US only said out loud "The Balkans are no longer under the Kremlin" - dr do it
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 30 March 2018 13: 26
        +4
        Quote: siberalt
        The thread of the South Stream has long been sharpened on Bulgaria. Only her consent is required. winked
        10 days ago, there was information that Gazprom had already begun to cut this branch. Something around five hundred kilometers will be dismantled. request
        1. pytar
          pytar 30 March 2018 13: 35
          +7
          10 days ago, there was information that Gazprom had already begun to cut this branch. Something around five hundred kilometers will be dismantled.

          Look at the map. Cut from the Russian coast, where it was necessary to start the UP. Since the TP project is already a fact and part of the infrastructure has already been built for it, a variant is being discussed now, so that the second TP line will go directly to Varna. In fact, the second thread of TP is processed into a variant of UP. Pipes with UP, as they stood 4 of the year and stand at a warehouse in Varna! Gazprom to pay each year for 1,5 million dollars to save! Moreover, there is already stated interest on the part of Gazprom that will include the pipe directly in the Balkan hub. In the moment negotiations are underway. Find out more in the coming months.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 30 March 2018 14: 22
            +4
            Boyan, I’m writing about our site. In the rest of what you wrote, everything is true hi
            1. pytar
              pytar 30 March 2018 14: 27
              +6
              I have been writing about this for 3 years on Russian forums. laughing The reaction - ridicule and curse at my address. sad Sometimes things go slowly and ambiguously, but the final result is important! Okay. Everything will be fine! Do not doubt! good
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 30 March 2018 15: 18
            0
            In fact, the second thread of TP is processed into a variant of UP.

            It is very interesting, but according to reports on the Russian Internet, it is already being laid and not to Bulgaria at all. As of January 28, 224 km of the offshore section of this branch were laid. Also, consent was already received from Turkey for the construction of this branch and the laying of a gas pipeline further through its territory. And then there is such news, it turns out to be deployed to Varna .. The owners of Bulgaria have almost agreed Well, yes, yes.
            1. pytar
              pytar 30 March 2018 16: 10
              +3
              It is very interesting, but according to reports on the Russian Internet, it is already being laid and not at all in Bulgaria. as of January 28, 224 km of the marine section of this branch was laid.

              Not yet, nothing final. Although you are talking about two different branches that run in parallel. When the second branch starts approaching Turkish water, then we will learn about its further advancement. Where the gas pipeline gets to the hub is not fundamentally important. Maybe through Turkey, maybe directly on the sea day to Varna. The end point is indicated, and let Gazprom decide where the pipe will lead. Emu is more advantageous directly, since then it will save on transit fees. In principle, the hub will collect and redirect gas from several suppliers. Azerbaijan will supply 1 mln.sq.m. Romania, also announced the supply of a quantity. It is still the only place in the territorial waters of Bulgaria that is actually explored. It is right up to Varna. In principle, to meet the needs of Bulgaria itself, there will be enough gas without the participation of Gazprom.
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 30 March 2018 16: 26
                0
                Not yet, nothing final. Although you are talking about two different branches that run in parallel. When the second branch starts approaching Turkish water, then we will learn about its further advancement.

                Some kind of tales. Nobody on their knees is deploying large-scale infrastructure projects.
                Where the gas pipeline gets to the hub is not fundamentally important. Maybe through Turkey, maybe directly on the sea day to Varna

                Wait and see. You look also the Turks will turn you off by turning off the gas.
                In principle, to meet the needs of Bulgaria itself, there will be enough gas without the participation of Gazprom.

                You could be involved in meeting the needs of all of southern Europe, but you made a different choice. Hope that the owner will throw you a fat bone for this.
                1. pytar
                  pytar 30 March 2018 16: 54
                  +1
                  Some kind of tales. Nobody on their knees is deploying large-scale infrastructure projects.

                  A fairy tale seems to children and serial. laughing
                  When it comes to benefits and the moon to expand if necessary! wink
                  Wait and see. You look also the Turks will turn you off by turning off the gas.

                  Russia and Gazprom take this probability into account. They do not need another Ukraine. bully
                  You could be involved in meeting the needs of all of southern Europe, but you made a different choice.

                  Not "could", but we will! The choice of the practical hub of the Balkans is much more profitable for BG than UP.
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 30 March 2018 17: 42
                    0
                    Not "could", but we will! The choice of the practical hub of the Balkans is much more profitable for BG than UP.

                    Well, that’s at least frankly. So remember for the future that it was your choice, and you made it because it is more profitable for you. I hope you find this memory useful.
                    1. pytar
                      pytar 30 March 2018 18: 57
                      +1
                      So remember for the future that it was your choice, and you made it because it is more profitable for you. I hope you find this memory useful.

                      Oh, how scary ... belay The threat is direct with Gazprom Central! wassat
                      Alexander, three questions to your adequacy:
                      1. Which of the Russian projects is not profitable for her?
                      2.RF is a capitalist country?
                      3. What is the main goal under capitalism?
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 30 March 2018 19: 27
                        0
                        Oh, how scary ... belay The threat is right with Gazprom Central! wassat

                        A threat? Have mercy, what a threat. Just remember this, the next time the question arises, “do you need friends”, as below on the branch

                        1. Which of the Russian projects is not profitable for her?

                        Well, they said about pumping gas through Ukraine that it is no longer profitable. Why is the Yeltsin Center needed? In my opinion, this is direct wrecking. New gas pipelines to China may be strategically correct, but the profitability of these projects raises questions. Again, a bottled water plant on Lake Baikal is not clear why it is needed.
                        2.RF is a capitalist country?

                        Undoubtedly.
                        3. What is the main goal under capitalism?

                        By itself. Human to human wolf. You just look yourself do not forget about it. Time is flowing and the world is changing. If you suddenly forget sincerely hope that you are someone to remind you of this.
                    2. pytar
                      pytar 30 March 2018 19: 47
                      +1
                      Just remember this, the next time the question arises, “do you need friends”, as below the branch

                      Friends are people! Investors do business! And Russian like everyone else.
                      ... gas through Ukraine was said that it was no longer profitable .. Yeltsin Center .. gas pipelines to China ... a plant ... on Lake Baikal ...

                      Sometimes what was profitable decreases over time. The Yeltsin Center is out of place here. It happens that the calculations turn out to be erroneous. Conclusion - all of the projects you listed began with a profit goal.
                      By itself. Human to human wolf.

                      I asked what is the main goal under capitalism? And you tell me about bilogy. So, the main goal under capitalism is profit.
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 30 March 2018 20: 01
                        0
                        I asked what is the main goal under capitalism? And you tell me about bilogy. So, the main goal under capitalism is profit.

                        This is the main goal of profit during economic activity, you want to measure these all your life, well, so be it.
            2. Rostovchanin
              Rostovchanin 30 March 2018 19: 08
              +1
              Nothing will unfold. The pumping capacity of the Russkaya CS is 63 billion cubic meters. (With the condition that they will complete the second stage and conduct all 14 design compressors), 7 units are currently installed, with pumping of 35 billion cubic meters. So there everything is enough with the head of both Turkey and Bulgaria, with the continuation of transit through these countries
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 30 March 2018 15: 02
      0
      have already accomplished a feat
      1. AST576
        AST576 30 March 2018 16: 39
        +3
        Yes, it’s not a fact that it will be so, given the side on which the "little brothers" fought 2 wars ...
  2. Vend
    Vend 30 March 2018 12: 53
    +1
    Unexpectedly from the Bulgarians. It can be seen something learned.
    1. Borik
      Borik 30 March 2018 13: 03
      +2
      Not yet evening. They will finish it. Where are they going to go?
      1. Vend
        Vend 30 March 2018 13: 09
        0
        Quote: Borik
        Not yet evening. They will finish it. Where are they going to go?

        Also an option for the development of events. We will find out soon.
        1. For example
          For example 30 March 2018 13: 19
          0
          Quote: Wend
          Unexpectedly from the Bulgarians.

          What's so unexpected?
          By our actions at the meeting of the Council of the EU and NATO, we have provided full support to the UK.

          Provided full support. They do not expel, because not everyone expels.
          Bulgarians, as always, both yours and ours. Nothing new.
          The most important thing is that they will completely send someone to the drum or not. Bulgaria is nothing meaningful "bunch" in the EU.
          1. pytar
            pytar 30 March 2018 13: 40
            +2
            Bulgarians, as always, both yours and ours. Nothing new.

            We have our own national interests! Protect them as much as possible! Like someone or not, it doesn’t matter.
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 30 March 2018 13: 10
        +1
        The trend was set by the Old Europeans, and young-supported. At least snapped a mothballs lion. Not bad, it means Faberge are present, not quite scotch. Or maybe they just want to bargain for themselves what thread. We will see.
    2. pytar
      pytar 30 March 2018 13: 21
      +8
      Unexpectedly from the Bulgarians. It can be seen something learned.

      Why unexpectedly? Bulgaria, on almost all especially important issues, manages to defend its interests!
      Let me remind you that Bulgaria in 2015 refused to accept the American missile defense system on its territory! As a result, the active part of the system was transferred to Romania!
      In 2016, Bulgaria “unexpectedly” refused to participate in the anti-Russian Black Sea flotilla being formed! As a result, the entire project was buried!
      1. Vend
        Vend 30 March 2018 13: 34
        +1
        Quote: pytar
        Unexpectedly from the Bulgarians. It can be seen something learned.

        Why unexpectedly? Bulgaria, on almost all especially important issues, manages to defend its interests!
        Let me remind you that Bulgaria in 2015 refused to accept the American missile defense system on its territory! As a result, the active part of the system was transferred to Romania!
        In 2016, Bulgaria “unexpectedly” refused to participate in the anti-Russian Black Sea flotilla being formed! As a result, the entire project was buried!

        Refusal of Bulgaria from the South Stream and the construction of nuclear power plants. Is this a defense of your interests?
        1. pytar
          pytar 30 March 2018 13: 46
          +4
          Refusal of Bulgaria from the South Stream and the construction of nuclear power plants. Is this a defense of your interests?

          You have inaccurate information. It is understandable, since a very distorted picture of the situation with them is shown in Russian media. I know.
          UP did not stop Bulgaria! If you think differently, show at least one official document confirming this thesis! Moreover, now the Balkan hub is being developed, which is much more profitable for Bulgaria than UP!
          As for Belene NPP, the issue is still under discussion. Nowadays, the Kozloduy NPP is operating quite normally in Bulgaria. It is accredited until 2030 with an option to continue operating until 2040. At the moment, options are being sought to continue the construction of Belene NPPs. Its construction was reinstalled due to the lack of money and the absence of a guarantee for the consumption of its capacities. The government recently announced a proposal to all Balkan countries for joint construction. Interest has already been declared with several countries.
          1. Vend
            Vend 30 March 2018 14: 02
            +1
            Quote: pytar
            Refusal of Bulgaria from the South Stream and the construction of nuclear power plants. Is this a defense of your interests?

            You have inaccurate information. It is understandable, since a very distorted picture of the situation with them is shown in Russian media. I know.

            That is, the Bulgarian media is a model of truth, and Russian is a lie. I understand you freely?
            1. pytar
              pytar 30 March 2018 14: 13
              +3
              You did not understand anything. lol The media are the same. And so you me correctly I realized, I’ll clarify that I worked 4 in the technical part of UP with the Bulgarian side. For that I say that in the know. hi
            2. sogdy
              sogdy 30 March 2018 14: 31
              0
              Quote: Wend
              Refusal of Bulgaria from the South Stream and the construction of nuclear power plants. Is this a defense of your interests?

              Right, there was a failure of the EU. Bulgaria was invited to determine its sovereignty.
              1. pytar
                pytar 30 March 2018 14: 37
                +1
                Right, there was an EU failure.

                So it came to the end! UP is not the only project between the BG and the Russian Federation! This is a project related to the EU and the Russian Federation! good
                Bulgaria was invited to determine its sovereignty.

                Bulgaria is a member of the EU since 2007. Each membership in such an organization provides for the adoption of some voluntary obligations! Each union or unification has its own rules and laws! It is so in the Customs Union ?! request
                1. sogdy
                  sogdy 30 March 2018 15: 26
                  0
                  Quote: pytar
                  Each union or unification has its own rules and laws!

                  There is. But there is also a vital necessity - and this is the problem of joining this union, since it is a matter of continued existence.
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 30 March 2018 17: 08
                    +2
                    Well, at the time of entry / 2007 g. / There was no other alternative. It is still not there. I don’t know tomorrow. We will see. request
      2. P0LYM
        P0LYM 30 March 2018 14: 04
        +3
        If Russia always acted on the basis of its own interests only ... would you live under the Ottomans ... Do you like "bros" to talk about their interests, twist and twist for their profit, even those who are obliged to substitute their existence ... and Gazprom with UP, you simply framed ... when everything is fine, you don’t need us ... but it’s worth appearing on the horizon for problems so run to Russia ...
        1. pytar
          pytar 30 March 2018 14: 16
          +1
          Yuri ... I don’t have any obligation either to you personally or to Gazprom. request Get used to the thought. lol
          1. P0LYM
            P0LYM 30 March 2018 14: 31
            +4
            Boyan ... but I have to put all of you on you ... and I don’t need to get used to anything ... believe me ... but for those who think otherwise, I advise you to read F.M. Dostoevsky .... let me quote an excerpt from it:
            "... according to my inner conviction, the most complete and insurmountable - Russia will never have and never had such haters, envious people, slanderers and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them released!
            And let them not object to me, do not dispute, do not shout at me that I am exaggerating and that I am a hater of the Slavs! On the contrary, I really love the Slavs, but I will not defend myself, because I know that everything will come true exactly as I say, and not because of the low, ungrateful, as if, character of the Slavs, absolutely not - they have a character in this sense like everyone else, but precisely because such things in the world can not happen otherwise.
            After their release, they will begin their new life, I repeat, precisely by asking themselves to be given the pledge and protection of their freedom from Europe, England and Germany, and even Russia will be in a concert of European powers, but they will protection from Russia and will do it.
            ... there is still much more interesting and visionary ....
            And in conclusion ... now, if the Bulgarians saved me at some tragic moment in the history of my country ... and I would say to the Bulgarian "everything is nothing ... but keep in mind ... I do not owe you anything ... and , you understand, probably, if I tell you this, I don’t feel any gratitude to you ... get used to it ... I’m free ... "I would probably not feel discomfort due to my impudence and ingratitude ... but people around ... the Bulgarians ... would probably consider me a scum .... Well, you personally ... do not worry!)))
            1. pytar
              pytar 30 March 2018 14: 47
              +4
              Yes, I have to pile on you all ...

              1. Continue beating your forehead in concrete. good
              2. Dostoevsky wrote a lot of things. And politicians are always guided by their interests. Russian too. Accordingly, I am grateful to the Russian people! For that, in my modest strength and capabilities, I try to bring to those normal Russians here on the forum my good attitude to them!
              But in any way, I am not considered obligated to go on about every idiot who has made himself the "legal successor" of all of Russia! I don’t like your oligarchs either. To the actions of some Ross. politicians also have a special relationship. But they are not Russia!
              Concept? wink
              1. P0LYM
                P0LYM 30 March 2018 15: 17
                +1
                Keep beating your forehead in concrete

                I'm not sure that you understand me ... What did you see my attempts to break through the forehead with concrete ??? On the contrary, I’m telling ... all these Bulgarians, Slovaks, Poles, Ukrainians and others ... are indifferent to me ... I don’t expect anything good from them ... more precisely, I am waiting for another dirty trick ... because I am in full agreement with Fedor Mikhailovich on this subject. Thanks, usually expressed in the form of a SPECIAL level of economic, political and other relations ... if we are talking about states ... the complete absence of which we observe in Russian-Bulgarian relations ... so gratitude is not your strongest trait. ..
                I’ll tell you so ... I’m proud that I live in Russia, I think that this is a great country ... yes, now is not the best time for it, but I know, and this is a fact ... half the world ... and maybe they owe it more to my country that they exist ... and their existence is paid for with lives and blood, of those heroes who grew up and were brought up here ... And who were saved by the Bulgarians ...? whom did the Slovaks save ...? Or you still recall the service of Hitler ... you are grateful to us ....
                1. pytar
                  pytar 30 March 2018 17: 10
                  +1
                  And I’m sure that you will not understand anyone except yourself. There is such a category. But people are all different. fellow
            2. sogdy
              sogdy 30 March 2018 15: 17
              +1
              Quote: P0LYM
              but for those who think otherwise I would advise reading F.M. Dostoevsky ....

              It’s good that you immediately classified yourself.
              Do not forget that this convict finished in the yellow house? (it seems that the healer did not know either the first or the second)
              1. P0LYM
                P0LYM 30 March 2018 15: 38
                0
                Thank you for immediately speaking here ... and explaining to me (the overlayer), everything about Fyodor Mikhailovich, brilliant but overwhelmed by passions ... but this is surprising ... I know that he was condemned to participate in some kind of revolutionary the death penalty group, which was later replaced by 8 years of hard labor, but about what he ended up in a madhouse ... he seems to have died of tuberculosis at home ... but this is not the main thing ... the main thing remains unrevealed ... but why did you blurt out this ??? what does it matter? He wrote the text that I brought to myself while I was in my right mind ... In general, you can immediately see ... an intelligent person ... of those who always have at hand the text: "he d - urik")))
                1. sogdy
                  sogdy 30 March 2018 15: 52
                  +2
                  Quote: P0LYM
                  all about Fedor Mikhailovich, brilliant, but overwhelmed by passions ...

                  The reference to Dostoevsky is permissible in discussions with the Russians. For non-Russians, it is absurd.
                  He was convicted of triple murder. Died of tuberculosis in a yellow house. Abroad used in courses of Russian literature for the education of Russophobia.
                  This is alas. Therefore, you are so abruptly stopped.
                  1. P0LYM
                    P0LYM 30 March 2018 16: 42
                    0
                    did not quite understand ... was it sarcasm? ...))
          2. sogdy
            sogdy 30 March 2018 14: 53
            +1
            Quote: pytar
            Yuri ... I don’t owe anything to you personally or to Gazprom. Get used to the thought.

            Patar, however, are obliged to Yuri, and RI, and the USSR. And even the Russian Federation are required. And they are obliged to Batu, his Noyons and Pechersk Bulgars. It was they who created your state. And yet their principle of the succession of power (not possession, but control), which is valid in our country, retains your sovereignty. Which "Voltaireans" all the time trying to make a shit.
            Do not forget the expression "union of singles" - this is about Europe under Hitler was said. We have such "loners" are called "philistines."
            1. pytar
              pytar 30 March 2018 15: 12
              +3
              sogdy, in forums, many hide behind Russian flags ... Moreover, none of the writers here represent the states. bully We can only express our personal opinions!
              And from the mention of Batu, you have already made me laugh! lol I put a skullcap and laugh! laughing
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 30 March 2018 15: 36
                0
                Quote: pytar
                And from the mention of Batu, you have already made me laugh! I put a skullcap and laugh!

                But this is you in vain. This is primarily a Bulgarian historical tradition. Because for Russia it simply died. But the call to Shipka is based precisely on the role of the Batu vizier. And yes, I studied the history of Bulgaria from _ Bulgarian_ textbooks.
                So your fun is suspicious.
                1. pytar
                  pytar 30 March 2018 17: 16
                  +1
                  sogdyThis is a new conversation thread, which is huge in itself. I see that you are interested in historical topics, and I respect such people! You personally, respect! hi But I do not think it is appropriate to unwind here too. It is already with UP from the nuclear power plant, but somehow "figured out"! Let's start about the story, forget about the main topic! smile
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 March 2018 12: 54
    +5
    They recalled their ambassador, allegedly for consultations, thereby seemingly supporting the EU. Others could do the same, but courage and someone did not have the desire. Merkel and Macron on any terms, but to the peak of Russia.
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 30 March 2018 12: 56
    +6
    From a group of doubters. So it will fly into them all, the Yankees will begin to understand and consider the question of expelling their dilomatics!
    Not quite what I’m ready to sign for, but I’ll say, “Hold on to bros!”
    And I’ll add, guys, sitting on two chairs, this always ends with the same thing!
    1. pytar
      pytar 30 March 2018 13: 28
      +7
      From a group of doubters.

      We must understand the situation in which Bulgaria is! The country is not rich and small! The economy is very dependent, and politicians have skeletons in their wardrobes! Bulgaria cannot afford any sudden movements! But Bulgaria is quite successfully making tactical resistance, which in its position looks like a feat! Keep in mind that all the most powerful states in Europe have already obeyed!
      Not quite what I’m ready to sign for, but I’ll say, “Hold on to bros!”

      Thank! You too - hold on! good
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 March 2018 13: 59
        +4
        We have already rested our horn, and the berets are already laced!
        I’m like an old boot, my dear kirzach, I don’t forget anything.
  5. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 30 March 2018 12: 57
    0
    It is today, and tomorrow dosvidos will be arranged.
    1. pytar
      pytar 30 March 2018 13: 30
      +3
      It is today, and tomorrow dosvidos will be arranged.

      And you wait until tomorrow. Do not discuss in advance. request We'll see.
  6. Masya masya
    Masya masya 30 March 2018 12: 58
    +4
    I do not believe the Bulgarians! just in the light of the fact that they blocked UP and lost, they didn’t receive any preferences .... now they act with caution ...
    1. pytar
      pytar 30 March 2018 13: 38
      +4
      I do not believe the Bulgarians!

      Mutually Marina ... Mutually ... laughing
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 30 March 2018 13: 39
        +4
        that muddied, then they got ... sorry ...
        1. pytar
          pytar 30 March 2018 13: 52
          +3
          that muddied, then they got ... sorry ...

          This can be seen by you, so do not apologize! tongue
  7. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 30 March 2018 12: 59
    +1
    At least someone has sanity. Czech Republic and Bulgaria. Who else?
  8. pytar
    pytar 30 March 2018 13: 04
    +12
    Even during the meeting of EU heads of state at 23.03.2018, the Bulgarian prime minister expressed doubts about the allegations of Russia's involvement in the case of the assassination of Sergei Skripal and his daughter: “Usually, in such cases, the case is never how it looks at first glance. On the one hand, the assassination attempt is very flat, apparently brutal, suggestive. At one point, someone says that it is in the interest of Russian President Vladimir Putin to raise selective activity. I don’t think there is anyone who doubts that Putin will win the election anyway. If it’s true, like some people say that he can influence the US election, it would be a child’s game to do it at his own election. Great Britain, said “high step vero "about the alleged participation of Russia in the assassination attempts! I demanded more proof! In the" high level of probability "there is the word" probability. "When there is probability, then there is another probability. I recalled to them the time when Saddam Hussein was accused of harassing chemical weapons and subsequently Tony Blair apologized. The consequences for this country are still monstrous. ”
    When asked how the Bulgarian government will respond, B. Borisov replied that Bulgaria will not expel Russian diplomats, in the absence of more evidence. “In Bulgaria there is no such mood. ” - stated the Bulgarian Premier.
    Subsequently, the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry confirmed that Bulgaria has no intention of expelling Russian diplomats.
    President Rumen Radev, also categorically opposed such measures!
    As there is severe pressure on Bulgaria from Washington and Brussels, the Bulgarian prime minister decided to call the ambassador from Moscow to Sofia. As Boyko Borisov himself stated, the goal is to obtain objective information on the situation personally from the ambassador! As a result of these consultations, Bulgaria finally decided not to expel Russian diplomats. The Bulgarian ambassador will return to Moscow to 08.04.
    By this way, Bulgaria defended its position! This is of particular importance in view of the fact that until June, Bulgaria presides over the EU!
    According to the Russian ambassador to Sofia, Anatoly Makarov:
    “I believe that the position of Bulgaria in this situation is very reasonable and well-balanced, namely the decision of your prime minister - first to get evidence and then make a decision, and not vice versa. I’m sure that sooner or later the truth will prevail and everything will fall into place "
    1. SOF
      SOF 30 March 2018 13: 59
      +5
      Quote: pytar
      By this way, Bulgaria defended its position!

      ... nice to read and understand the Cyrillic alphabet from Europe!
      ... GOOD LUCK to you in defending your (pro-Bulgarian) position!
      1. pytar
        pytar 30 March 2018 14: 17
        +3
        Thank you, Alexander! good I wish you all the best! I wish you health and good luck! hi
      2. P0LYM
        P0LYM 30 March 2018 17: 03
        +1
        unfortunately, there is no position there ... what they say, they will do ...
        We must understand the situation in which Bulgaria is! The country is not rich and small! The economy is very dependent ...
        that’s all said ... Bulgaria has NO RESOURCE so that they can even have their own pro-Bulgarian position. it seems to me that Boyan has a keen sense of shame for his country, and here he is trying to prove that the only question is to act only in pro-Bulgarian interests ... but in the EU these interests are not of interest to anyone ... all these former socialist republics they’re good only to spoil Russia, but to ruin something ... Act in the interests of many nations .. or continents ... think about security, stability and the global economy - this is the lot of powerful and great states ... Bulgaria does not belong to such will never relate ... I think they can forgive a lot ... but you can not relax with them
        1. pytar
          pytar 30 March 2018 19: 21
          +2
          Boyan has a keen sense of shame for his country,

          You are very mistaken! laughing I am proud with my country! fellow I often criticize the Bulgarian rulers, but in this case I have no complaints about them.
          Moreover, in the last 5 years, the economy has been developing very well! 3,5-4% annual growth. In 2017, GDP reached the record for the entire history of Bulgaria in 50 billion euros! Foreign exchange reserves above 21 billion euros. Exports are growing at at 11-12% per year. External debt is declining and BG is one of the three EU countries with the best ratio of GDP: GDP. Unemployment is record low. Salaries are growing and by% of their growth Bulgaria is on the 2 place in the EU. A country that does not have any natural resources, has a standard of living not inferior to the richest country in terms of resources! And in the end, Bulgaria is a very beautiful sunny country with a hardworking, friendly people! How am I not proud of such a beautiful country? love
          What about the problems? Who doesn’t have them ?! request
    2. darksoul
      darksoul 30 March 2018 14: 07
      0
      but in vain they doubt that our GDP is bored, there’s still time before the World Cup .... in Europe, he’s roaming around with a beginner’s balloon, or will there still be ... maybe a couple more ole ... will poison her laughing
  9. Des10
    Des10 30 March 2018 13: 04
    0
    Their rulers do not have a core - do not touch Russia.
    So they will toil.
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya 30 March 2018 13: 42
      +4
      Quote: Des10
      So they will toil.

      sorry ... as my dad used to say ... hanging out like it is in the hole ...
  10. Romanenko
    Romanenko 30 March 2018 13: 11
    +5
    Yes, he is a rebel !!!
    Surprisingly, the fact is, Bulgaria is still trying to remain independent.
    God give her good luck!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 30 March 2018 14: 03
      +1
      She had to save her strength and strengthen her Faith.
      As soon as Islam tramples on whom should she hope? On the "joint" geyropu?
  11. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 30 March 2018 13: 29
    0
    Yes, do not give a damn about this whole gang, let them send as much as they want, but I considered the Czech Republic more cleverly, but they also disgraced themselves, all the same, in the end they thought better of it but the rotten sediment remained ...
  12. Zubr
    Zubr 30 March 2018 13: 58
    +1
    Oh how, bros in a pose of steel. smile What happened all of a sudden? But what about NATA, Spies with our long arms, and the EU will cry and be capricious.
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  13. asen
    asen 30 March 2018 14: 16
    +4
    Hello.
    I’ve been reading for a long time, but today I decided to register and ask.
    Don't you really need friends? Only the army and navy?
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 30 March 2018 15: 12
      +1
      Quote: asen
      Don't you really need friends? Only the army and navy?

      You forgot aviation. And this is annoying, as you took a quote from anti-Russian sources.
      So, a little about Russia.
      0:07 +1 day Kamchatka Territory (GMT + 12)
      23:07 Magadan (GMT + 11)
      23:07 Sakhalin (GMT + 11)
      22:07 Vladivostok (GMT + 10)
      21:07 Yakutsk (GMT + 9)
      20:07 Irkutsk (GMT + 8)
      19:07 Novosibirsk (GMT + 7)
      16:07 Samara (GMT + 4)
      14:07 Kaliningrad (GMT + 2)
      There are two problems in Russia - fools (there are not enough smart independent trained people) and roads (most of Russia in the permafrost zone)
      and two eternal questions - "why the hell?" and "and for what purpose do you ask this?"
    2. Zubr
      Zubr 30 March 2018 15: 58
      +3
      Yes, we are not against friends. But our friends are unlucky and always doubting. Our position is always transparent and on the side of justice. And when the mother doesn’t tell our potential friends, the EU, BRUSSELS, NATO. To us such friends are only a burden, and not Hope and support. But Rostov-on-Don and Pleven are twin cities and fraternal peoples. So, first grow up and decide who is a friend and who passed by this way.
      1. pytar
        pytar 30 March 2018 17: 29
        +2
        Our position is always transparent and on the side of justice.

        This is the opinion of a true patriot soldier to your country! But there is no point in arguing with the patriots. For them, theirs is always right! wink All the same, I will hint that in reality it is far from always so ... tongue After all, they cannot always be in everything, only one is right, and all the others are wrong! There is no such thing in life! I am not against your truth! But I am against when they do not recognize our right to ours!
        But Rostov-on-Don and Pleven are twin cities and fraternal peoples.

        One clarification: There are 257 cities in Bulgaria. 83 of them have twin cities in Russia. good
        So, first grow up and decide who is a friend and who passed by this way.

        Now I as a Bulgarian patriot soldier I’ll tell you: We are a people older and wiser than you. You are essentially our children. Your civilization is the continuation and development of our medieval civilization. The difference is that we and you live in different places and under different conditions. From that there is a difference in approaches and assessments. But this is normal and there should not be a reason for disagreement!
        1. Zubr
          Zubr 30 March 2018 23: 57
          +1
          Well bro! I convinced ..! drinks soldier
          So be good ... good
  14. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 30 March 2018 14: 27
    +1
    Quote: pytar
    Bulgarians, as always, both yours and ours. Nothing new.

    We have our own national interests! Protect them as much as possible! Like someone or not, it doesn’t matter.

    You are a worthy man, Bulgarian! Personally, I think so! But the fact is that, unfortunately, the years spent in Europe, among the enemies of the Slavs, and then as part of a rotten misunderstanding, called the European Union, did our job, we even do this: "... We have our own national interests! We protect them , as much as possible! ... ", they began to understand differently! For us, this is an attempt to sit on two chairs, although we understand how difficult it is to exist in a hostile environment, like in Serbia, for example! But I tell you about this understanding, and you, alas, not a word ... Only a repetition of these mantras: ".... We have our own national interests! We protect them as much as possible! ...". Everyone who is faced with the influence of Americans and their Euroservices becomes somehow zombie, like under hypnosis or something ... Look at Ukraine, they are told that you are destroying your country and economy, they are we protecting our national interests! They are told that they are killing their brothers, they- we are defending our national interests! Oh, sick, the old woman Europe is very sick, it’s not insanity anymore, but their chronic idiocy ... And you too, the Bulgarian brothers, are at risk of airborne infection! But ... you made your choice ... you are swallowed and will never be released! Let's face it, you won’t be with Russia, as soon as your leader, present or future, declares this ... the factory of color revolutions will begin its work !!!
    1. pytar
      pytar 30 March 2018 15: 26
      +2
      Thank you Egor! I see you are a smart person! With reasonable people, it is always useful to chat! Although our opinions may differ! This is not a reason for enmity! And so ... Tell me, does Russia have its own interests? Yes? And why Bulgaria can not have their own? And why do you think that our and yours must coincide? In fact, there are cases of mismatch! There are many coincidences! What should you go in for? We have a huge common foundation of relations! We need to work to improve relationships! It is in the interest of our peoples and states! I can criticize Russian politics on the spot! With a complete foundation! What for? Who benefits? Is it constructive or destructive? Your truth, not always ours, Egor! Nothing in the world costs one place! Everything is changing, everything will be different tomorrow! We need to look for roads to Friendship! I think so!
      1. kasatky
        kasatky 30 March 2018 16: 07
        +2
        This is a little crafty talk: - about the interests of Russia, the interests of Bulgaria. Is it not one of all our interests (Slavs and many other peoples) to live by honor, by work and conscience? We are definitely not those who are accustomed to living by robbing colonies and ruining Aborigines, we are not those who consider it right to create families of two peasants, not those who want to erase the entire national diversity of the planet and give birth to a "man of the world" .. And now the time has come, when it's time to decide: who is on whose side. And I, by my naivety, want and will believe that in this "interest" we are one with the Serbs, Bulgarians, Buryats, Dagestanis and many, many people.
        A voluntary or involuntary betrayal of the allies is in the history of each country. And I do not want to reproach these Bulgarians, especially in these troubled times.
        1. pytar
          pytar 30 March 2018 17: 40
          +1
          Is it not one of the interests of all of us (Slavs and many other peoples) to live by honor, by work and conscience?

          You confuse peoples with rulers. Everything would depend on peoples; there would hardly have been such wars.
          And now the time has come when it is time to decide: who is on whose side.

          This has always been the case in all of human history. In my opinion, if we reckon with concepts like morality, justice, conscience, truth and so on. it forms by itself. But all the rulers without shutdown were guided and will be guided only by interests! Such as they understand them! We hope that the interests of the Russian Federation and the BG will converge. Our peoples are coming by faith, language, origin and culture. This is a strong centuries-old foundation, which should be used!
          A voluntary or involuntary betrayal of the allies is in the history of each country. And I do not want to reproach these Bulgarians, especially in these troubled times.

          Right! Less mutual complaints and reproaches, otherwise everyone has them! We need to focus on the positive! Negativity does not lead anywhere! good
  15. earloop
    earloop 30 March 2018 22: 30
    0
    It's a shame, annoying! Come on! Brothers, after all!