Hydrofoils - to be! The project of the factory "Sea" and concern "Kalashnikov"

The Kalashnikov Concern and the More Shipyard (Feodosia, Crimea) are launching a joint project for the construction of an SEC (hydrofoil vessels). The head of the Republic of Crimea Sergey Aksyonov told the media that at this stage we are talking about the construction of two such vessels that will be used for high-speed passenger traffic between the ports of Crimea and the North Caucasus, as well as directly between the Crimea ports.

TASS quotes Sergey Aksenov:

As part of the presidential assignment in the second half of this year, it is planned to organize the construction of two hydrofoil vessels in cooperation with the Kalashnikov Concern.

In this way, weapons The Kalashnikov concern is expanding its industrial presence and is now focusing on the production of sea transport.

Earlier, in Soviet times, hydrofoil vessels were mass-produced. The same Theodosia plant "More" was engaged in the production of SEC "Rocket" project 340. This vessel has a maximum travel speed of about 70 km / h.

Its passenger capacity is up to 66 people.

These vessels are widely spread: from the USSR to Finland, the USA and Nicaragua. Even at the height of the Cold War, the United States actively bought SECs from the Soviet Union and exploited them until the 1970s. And in Romania, the Soviet "missiles" were exploited until the 2001 year.

Comments

[aszzz888]

Yes, I spent a lot of time on the “Rocket". From Vlad to the islands rushed ... Good, at that time a car!

[Chertt]

I was interested in this project. The construction is good, necessary, but the price tag is beyond. Maybe a large series will reduce the cost. And then there will be units, in "ostentatious" places like the Crimea, Sochi

[Piramidon]

Quote: Chertt

price tag beyond

“Beyond” is not a number. And how much does this ship cost, and how much, in your opinion, should one cost and why?

[Chertt]

Quote: Piramidon

“Beyond” is not a number.

There are no numbers, because there is no shipment of goods. The prototype walks in the waters of the Crimea. If it remains small-scale. It will be a toy for wealthy tourists. And for large series we need production capacities and state. participation. So far, nothing has been heard about it

[Piramidon]

Quote: Chertt

No numbers

Well, then why write about some prohibitive prices?

[Grits]

It will be a toy for wealthy tourists.
Do not say what you do not know. In Soviet times, such as passenger buses flew from Vladivostok in all directions. And it’s not quite expensive. With proper organization, now there would be no less people than before. And the prices would be quite ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Gritsa

Do not say what you do not know.

And what did I say that? You are not mistaken for the address? I just asked the question - "how much does it cost"? And the man did not give me a concrete answer. You yourself can express the expression "exorbitant price" in specific numbers, if you know everything?

[volodimer]

At the same price, the Vladivostok-Slavyanka bus takes 4,5 hours to travel, ferry 2,5 hours, SEC "Comet" cost is 2 times more expensive - travel time 1 hour. So it is obvious that the cost of maintaining the SEC is significant, but not prohibitive. Sea transport has died due to its physical obsolescence without the possibility of replacement. Now only the bus remains ...

[Rostovchanin]

Eeeh, from Rostov to Yalta!

[zloybond]

Thai yes - no ... with mandatory frequency this news once a week walks around sites ... and everyone starts to cheer happily. toklo theme all the time comes out like wow news ... and when will it be released? or is it just chewing chewing chewing ...

[rotmistr60]

As an example: from Vladivostok to Slavyanka, the ferry takes 4 hours, and the SEC only 1,5 (in the 90s). There is a difference, moreover, a sensitive one.

[Mussasi]

Yes, these ships in almost every city should be delivered, not only in the waters of the Crimea. Rechflot has long been in need of them, more precisely, in updating the park!

[volodimer]

Incorrect data, 1.5 hours "Comet" made a flight to Zarubino, but this is the 80s. 4 hours on the Bosphorus Vostochny ferry took place once in winter conditions, bypassing Russky and Popov islands, calling at the Stark Strait to help Brigadir Rishko ferry to break through the ice (ice class BV, BR "no). In summer conditions, the flight of both ferries took 2,5 hours.
Given the quality of roads (in the 90s, a significant part of the primer) to Slavyanka or Nakhodka, a trip to the SEC became really a journey. BоThe lower cost, in exchange for speed and comfort, was quite fine.

[rotmistr60]

From Slavyanka to Zarubino "Comet" 25 min. The ferry from Vladivostok to Slavyanka lasted 4 hours - "sailed, we know" (cartoon)

[Serg65]

Quote: aszzz888

spent a lot of time on the "Rocket"

The famous Mikhail Devyatayev was one of the first testers of these "Rocket", and then for a long time was the captain of hydrofoil vessels.

[pafegosoff]

I remember he came to school, told how the airplane stole ... Heinkel 111 would not have stolen from Peenemünde - he would not have lived.
And on the "Comets" in St. Petersburg from Petrodvorets, it seemed, he rode up to Senate Square with his daughter. And in Sochi.
It seems that Rybinsk is now built on Vympel Shipyard (completion in Sevastopol)

[Victor N]

Very promising project! Ready to sign up for personal savings. Good luck

[Borik]

Our spaces need hundreds of them. And how much will they build ???

[Alekseits]

And how much they pay, so much they will build. It's just that nothing is being done now. Capitalism because.

[keeper03]

Harnessed for a long time, I hope to sail smartly!

[Heterocapsa]

used to run on the Black Sea, they were just called Comets

and Kalashnikov and sweaters trade))

[Alekseits]

A pattern on some sweaters ... not Kalashnikovsky.

[Gardamir]

some sweaters

Did you use my avatar?

[Heterocapsa]

on the right there are automata in the figure, but on the left, yes)

[APASUS]

Quote: Heterocapsa

and Kalashnikov and sweaters trade))

Kalashnikov - a private office, can trade whatever you want. Rostec sold a 26% stake minus one share to Transkomplektholding and the state had only 25% left. Now Transkomplektholding holds 75% of the shares and the office smoothly transfers to private hands.

[The Siberian barber]

From Gadzhievo, to Murmansk, “Comet” once ran .. I would love to go if there was an opportunity ... Fast enough ... And it was possible to smoke. Then, it seems, they gave Cuba ..

[iaroslav.mudryi]

Quote: Borik

Our spaces need hundreds of them. And how much will they build ???

For reference: "Comet 120M - marine passenger hydrofoil (ship) hydrofoil (SEC) of the 23160 project. Created by the Central Design Bureau for the SEC in the 2017 year. 23 was launched on August 2013 of the year at Vympel Rybinsk Shipyard (Yaroslavl Region). According to the achievements arrangements, copies intended for operation on the lines connecting the resorts of the Black Sea coast of Russia with Crimea, will be completed at the Crimean plant "More", currently specializing in the production of hovercraft. In June 2017, Russian Minister of Transport Maxim Sokolov announced the resumption of production of high-speed hydrofoil ships of the Comet type. Vympel works with the Greek company Argonavtiki plos on the construction and transfer of Comet 120M vessels: negotiations are underway with a potential Greek customer to sign an agreement of understanding that reflects the terms of the contract for the construction of four Comet.
On October 24, the first ship went for testing and completion in the Crimea. The first ship received the name "Seagull" in honor of the astronaut Valentina Tereshkova. It is planned that from the 2018 of the year "The Seagull" will walk on the line between Sevastopol and Yalta. "

Valdai 45P will go to Yamal. And in the project - the purchase of Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug three more such vessels. And 25-30 of different types of ships is planned to be built before the 2025 year, the KB informed.

What other hydrofoil ships will be built, see here:
http://www.ckbspk.ru/products/suda-na-podvodnyih-
kryilyah /
pay attention to the Cyclone 250M: Passenger capacity - 250 people Speed ​​- 55 knots. Range - 500 miles.

[1vlad19]

We have Meteors, from Khabarovsk to Nikolaevsk on the Amur.

[Grits]

We have Meteors, from Khabarovsk to Nikolaevsk on the Amur.
... were ...

[konstantin68]

I rejoice from the heart of any Russian technology built. And the joy is doubly when the legendary shipbuilding enterprises “Bay” and “Sea” come to life after many years of Ukrainian occupation.

[Azazelo]

Concern Kalashnikov well done. And the Molniya NGOs bought it and the hydrofoils gathered. They manage to do it everywhere. Keep it up.

[sabakina]

If I’m not mistaken, in my childhood, Rocket, Meteor, Zarya “flew” past Kostroma and to Kostroma.

[Gardamir]

As a student, he went to the place of practice in Sevastopol, from Tuapse to Yalta. Now how much does it cost?

[iaroslav.mudryi]

http://www.ckbspk.ru/products/

[rpuropuu]

The Kalashnikov Concern and the More shipyard (Feodosia, Crimea) are launching a joint project to build a shipyard (hydrofoil ships).

Alekseev’s case still lives
It’s a pity they ruined this ingenious designer, because these developments are more than 30 years old, and they didn’t come up with a new one after him

[Palagecha]

It is imperative to provide for the possibility of installing "Caliber" in wartime! Or air defense systems. Such ships and troops will be able to land ... and cover ports from enemy raids ... and give a decent answer to the enemy ...

[samarin1969]

It is alarming that this is not the first announced "rescue" project of the "Sea". And for now - only "easy revitalization." The former non-public Soviet enterprise is going through hard times. And the village of Primorsky changed its specialization to a budget resort ... Once upon a time, people were taken to work on the "Sea" by trains ...

[begemot20091]

Quote: Chertt

I was interested in this project. The construction is good, necessary, but the price tag is beyond. Maybe a large series will reduce the cost. And then there will be units, in "ostentatious" places like the Crimea, Sochi

in the "stupid" stagnant (according to liberals) years of these "missiles", "Meteors" - like flies were on the Ob and Tom. And the “Dawn”? ... They scurried along all the rivers, as did the Kukuruzniki - tickets - they cost a penny. It's funny, but as a student in the 80s he still found a wheeled steamer, and next to these "dragonflies". On the Ob, as it was now on the road - do not push through. Boats, pushers with barges, motor ships .... FAVORABLE. Roads in swamps are not much to build, but along rivers, as on a highway. And we have rivers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In the Tomsk region there are 18,1 thousand rivers, streams and other watercourses, with a total length of about 95 thousand km, including 1620 rivers with a length of more than 10 km (the total length of these rivers is 57,2 thousand km). The duration of the navigation period is 170-180 days.

[Old26]

Quote: Heterocapsa

used to run on the Black Sea, they were just called Comets

These are different vessels. "Rocket" has always been a river, but "Comet" - a sea. In the same Leningrad, rockets walked along the Neva, but to Petrodvorets, if my sclerosis doesn’t fail me - Comets

Quote: Azazelo

Concern Kalashnikov well done. And the Molniya NGOs bought it and the hydrofoils gathered. They manage to do it everywhere. Keep it up.

Honestly not particularly visible. that well done. Non-core assets are gaining. The point is that the arms concern, whose rifle has always been a gunner, will suddenly start producing hydrofoils ???? Soon and before the pans can slide down

Quote: Palagecha

It is imperative to provide for the possibility of installing "Caliber" in wartime! Or air defense systems. Such ships and troops will be able to land ... and cover ports from enemy raids ... and give a decent answer to the enemy ...

Yeah, on an unequipped coast? Maybe let the landing ships engage in landing, and firing missiles - warships that have the necessary launchers. And then you have nothing to do from now on trying to "add" everything here. Well, add another launcher of “Poplar” or “Sarmat” or “Zircon”. And what, "paper will endure"

[Doliva63]

The real war with us will be large-scale, I would even say-total. Then everything goes into play. You probably do not remember the caliber of pasta in the Union? Let me remind you - 7,62. They said that 5,45 were, but I don’t eat pasta, I don’t know. And you are the "unequipped coast." As if they did not serve in the Soviet army, by golly!

[Dikson]

Well, the river ship "Zarya", for example, just fell into this category - due to its design, it easily "stuck" with its nose into any gentle shore and drove off passengers ... generally without needing piers and moorings .. - and on very many rivers of Siberia, these trams, in the absence of roads, simply and quickly delivered people ... According to the subject of the article, the author got the banks all the same .. "Rocket" is a river ship .. On the Black Sea and other seas went more powerful and seaworthy "Comets" and "Meteors" ... at the end of the Soviet era to replace the "Rocket" pr were "Sunrise" .. But the replacement of shallow catamarans "Dawn" has not created ..

[Old26]

Quote: Doliva63

The real war with us will be large-scale, I would even say-total. Then everything goes into play. You probably do not remember the caliber of pasta in the Union? Let me remind you - 7,62. They said that 5,45 were, but I don’t eat pasta, I don’t know. And you are the "unequipped coast." As if they did not serve in the Soviet army, by golly!

It’s just interesting how the author of the post is going to land a landing on a ship with non-retractable hydrofoils ... Or where he will cram into the "licked" Caliber hull. A PVO is generally a chip. You need to understand that the author of the post does not know what else radars are needed for the air defense complex

[Doliva63]

Not a sailor, I don’t know. There is a former brigade commander MP SF nicknamed "captain", but does not answer questions.

[Hiller]

yes ... oh, golden childhood .... Gelendzhik .... Comet ... unforgettable !!!

[komis55]

Now, if in front of the bucket, such as a mooring anchor and a gangway, the insulation is ready, but there are a lot of useful things and how convenient it is for different berths in height and like a ram, God forbid ....

[komis55]

Yes, and the wings are moving, kosher for the brain

[Engineer]

Well, if Kalashnikov took it, then definitely be! Although they are already building, but without Kalashnikov, it doesn’t count.