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The Swedish generals planned to hold out for three months during the invasion of the Russians

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In Sweden, in all seriousness, they are working on plans for a war with Russia. In particular, Swedish generals and politicians are working on a total mobilization plan. In Stockholm, expect to hold at least three months before the approach of reinforcements. Apparently, from countries belonging to NATO and located on the other side of the Swedish border (Denmark, Norway and Germany).




Currently, Sweden is separated from the Kaliningrad region by a little more than 230 kilometers of the smooth surface of the Baltic Sea. Long and narrow, one can say elongated, the shape of the country makes Sweden vulnerable to air attack from several sides. At the same time, Sweden, along with neighboring Finland, is in a unique position, these are the only countries of the Baltic region that are not members of NATO (except, of course, Russia itself), they are noted in Defensenews.

In the coming years, Sweden is going to seriously upgrade its defense infrastructure, preparing to survive the potential invasion of an “unidentified external enemy,” which is suspiciously similar to Russia. It is worth noting that earlier, Sweden had plans for the total mobilization of the population and industry, but all of them were developed during the Cold War, and after the collapse of the Soviet Union they went on the shelf, and at the same time a serious reduction of the Swedish armed forces was carried out. Now Swedish generals and politicians are developing such plans again, speaking of the total mobilization of the country and society in the event of possible aggression.


At the same time, the plans for the total mobilization and civil defense of the Cold War period were distinguished by a serious level of elaboration, to the extent that garages were designed with the possibility of being used as shelters during military operations. According to the plans, the new Swedish mobilization doctrine will require serious cash infusions. So in the period from 2021 to 2025 a year, Sweden plans to spend an additional 4,2 a billion crowns (about 510,5 million dollars) for various defense needs. This additional funding does not include the already planned military spending. In addition, Sweden allocates additional orders of 400 million crowns per year for 2018, 2019 and 2020 years.

According to the plans of the head of the parliamentary defense commission, Bjorn von Sidov, and the head of the commission’s secretariat, Tommy Akesson, total mobilization will allow Sweden to hold out in case of an invasion for at least three months, reports a specialized publication Defensenews. “If you are a member of the North Atlantic Alliance and you are attacked, you can count on help from other NATO nations that will come to the rescue. This does not apply to Sweden, for this reason the kingdom plans to mobilize the entire country if Russia is attacked by it, ”they say in Defensenews.

The Parliamentary Defense Commission was formed in Sweden in 2017, the main purpose of its work is to revive the concept of the so-called “total defense” or “total mobilization”. In fact, we are talking about resuscitation of plans that existed during the Cold War. According to Tommy Akesson, considerable attention will be paid to civil defense issues, infrastructure development: the construction of warehouses and shelters, the development of medical care and pharmaceuticals, and solutions in the field of emergency response. Part of the funds the Swedes are going to spend on cybersecurity and training aimed at opposing propaganda and newsdistributed through social networks. According to Bjorn von Sidov, this is important, since the commission takes care not only of protecting the country, but also of protecting democratic principles that are designated as vital for the Swedish nation.

Yury Melkonov (Riga), the chief editor of the military-historical magazine Baltfort, does not exclude that the Swedish General Staff seriously considers all options for a possible Russian aggression: by air, by land or from the sea through Finland or even on the ice of the Gulf of Bothnia in winter. In an interview with the newspaper “Vzglyad”, he recalled that during the time of Peter I, that is, 300 years ago, the Russian landing force landed from the sea in what is now Sweden. "Then the Russian troops commanded by Apraksin approached 150 kilometers to Stockholm, to the town of Norrköping, which eventually burned down," the military expert recalled. Even a hundred years later, during the reign of Emperor Alexander I, Russian troops also reached the Swedish coast, but already on foot on the ice across the Kvarken strait in the Gulf of Bothnia. These events took place during the Russian-Swedish war of 1808-1809, which ended with the victory of Russia, after the war of Russia, Finland withdrew.

Swedish reservists / militiamen at training camp

At the same time, Yuri Melkonov is puzzled, for what reason in Stockholm seriously discuss the period of three months. The expert recalled that modern conflicts are often measured not in months, but in days. “What are three months? We would have to stand for a day and stay the night, ”Melkonov joked about the Swedish plans. At the same time, he is sure that there are quite a few of those among the citizens of Sweden, then, if necessary, he will be ready to defend his country and conduct partisan actions, live in forests and caves, and run in the mountains with machine guns. He recalled that the Swedish volunteers quite actively participated in the Soviet-Finnish war, stressing that the Swedes are able to fight.

Konstantin Sivkov, First Vice-President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems and Doctor of Military Sciences, believes that Swedish generals are quite seriously counting on using the regular troops to keep the country’s territory for the three months indicated. However, he believes that a hypothetical invasion of the most populated southern part of the kingdom may take a few days.

However, in the mountainous areas of the country, the Swedish military can really gain a foothold for a long time. “The Russian Federation has no common borders with Sweden. First you will need to capture Finland. That is, the invasion of Sweden itself will be preceded by a rather long stage - front-line operation 5-10 days, ”said Sivkov in an interview with the newspaper“ Vzglyad ”. According to him, for the 5 days, the kingdom will have time to complete mobilization, which will allow the country to create a deep echelon defense in the mountainous areas and to ensure the deterrence of the advancing troops. At the same time, Sweden will be able to rely only on its own small air defense forces for protection against air attacks, therefore the effectiveness of such protection will be very low.

In general, the capabilities of the Swedish armed forces seem modest. For the defense of the fifth largest country in Europe, the Swedes are ready to deploy a little more than 20 thousand troops without taking into account reservists. At the same time, the Swedish armed forces are well equipped with modern weapons and military equipment. Although with some features, in particular, the air defense forces are really extremely weak, however, the country has a fairly large fighter fleet aviation. The Swedish Air Force has 98 modern fighter-bombers JAS 39 Gripen in versions JAS 39C and JAS 39D own production. Ground forces have a large supply of modern armored vehicles, presented as the German main combat tanks "Leopard 2" (about 130 tanks) and BMP own production Strf 90 (more than 350 units). At the same time, the Swedish Navy is armed with modern Visby corvettes (5 units built), which are even called the world's first "real" warships built using stealth technology. The peculiarity of Sweden is that the country has a developed military-industrial complex, which allows creating and producing a wide range of weapons and military equipment competitive on the international market.

JAS 39C Gripen Swedish Air Force

Where, in principle, in Sweden came this half-crazy idea - to defend against Russian aggression. The fact is that anti-Russian sentiment in this country is quite common. Sweden is traditionally located in the group of states in which citizens most negatively disposed towards Russia live. For example, data from the Transatlantic Trends poll conducted in 2016 showed that 79 percent of citizens of the kingdom treat Russia badly. This figure is higher than in the Baltic countries, which are even closer to Russia.

At the same time, Swedish society truly believes in the threat posed by Russia. Nearly three-quarters of the Swedes recently spoke in favor of introducing equal military service. On this 4 January 2016 of the year was reported by Radio Sweden. The fact that 72 percent of the country's citizens are in favor of restoring universal conscription in the kingdom, Dagens Nyheter reported, having ordered the corresponding sociological research from the Ipsos public opinion monitoring service.

At the same time, 87 surveyed Swedes believed that conscription should be gender-neutral, that is, apply equally to men and women (hello to the Israeli army). Conscription was abolished in the kingdom relatively recently, it happened only in 2010 year. After that, the Swedish army became fully contractual, however, in the course of the reform, its ranks were not fully manned. It is noted that the incomplete staff of the Swedish armed forces in terms of soldiers, sailors and military personnel of junior commanders was approximately 7,5 thousand people.

As a result, in 2017, the military appeal, taking into account public opinion, the general situation in the world, was restored. The first call again took place on July 1 2017. At first 100 was sent to thousands of young people 1999 and 2000 of their birth. Then, 13 of thousands of people were chosen, four thousand of whom will have to complete military service in 2018 and 2019. In the future, it is planned to gradually increase the number of recruits to 8 thousand per year. At the same time, Swedes who were born before 1999, were exempted from military service. In this case, the basis of the army will continue to be contract soldiers.

Swedish soldier and multi-purpose wheeled armored combat vehicle Patria XA-360 AMV

The Swedish publicist Matthias Göransson, who wrote the book Bjornen kommer (“The Bear Is Going”), spoke a lot about the moods of Swedish society. He had previously told reporters from Russia that a kind of cult had developed in the kingdom: from childhood, the people of Sweden had been regularly searching for Soviet submarines. According to Göransson, in 1980-1995, the Swedish authorities registered almost 6,5 thousands of reports of Russian submarines. Another surge in such “hunting” was registered in 2014 year. That year, the authorities registered 300 signals from ordinary citizens who claimed to have seen submarines. True, in the end, not a single boat was ever found. Melkonov admits that during the time of the USSR, our submarines were really actively defiling past the Swedish borders. “However, Russia is absolutely not needed now, as Sweden is not considered in Moscow as a possible aggressor,” believes Yury Melkonov. Moreover, no other country has a reason to attack Sweden.

Military rhetoric, which is increasingly heard from the lips of Swedish politicians, is attributed by a military expert from Riga to the daily activities of the Swedish Ministry of Defense, which simply needs new budget funding. “Why do they get money? To protect the country. They conduct exercises, scare the locals, ”the expert notes. At the same time, Konstantin Sivkov believes that Sweden is developing a "crazy scenario", which even remotely has nothing to do with reality. “Russia is not capable of this even theoretically. The combat strength of the Baltic fleet so small that the maximum is able to transfer three battalions, which is simply ridiculous to attack Sweden, ”the expert emphasized.

A source:
https://vz.ru/politics/2018/3/18/912652.html
https://regnum.ru/news/society/2048574.html
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2018/03/14/fortress-sweden-inside-the-plan-to-mobilize-swedish-society-against-russia
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 31 March 2018 05: 47
    +4
    up to the point that garages were designed with the possibility of use as shelters during hostilities.

    Well done. Surely, after the "victory" in the twentieth century, they did not dirt them and sold them to cooperators.
    Carlson with Lewis, this is nonsense.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 31 March 2018 06: 01
      +1
      Moreover, no country has a reason to attack Sweden today.

      That is, they are like dogs, they understand everything, but they can’t say

      that a kind of cult took shape in the kingdom: from childhood, the inhabitants of Sweden regularly searched for Soviet submarines.

      Do they mean they play games? And in England there is no game "Find a Russian with chemical weapons"
      1. volodya
        volodya 31 March 2018 08: 44
        +1
        Oh guys! Hold on longer if of course you do not get in touch with us, and if you snoop around, we'll see !!!
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 31 March 2018 10: 53
          0
          And how can they get to us from their peninsula? Through Finland dry land or through the Baltic States swim? belay So it turns out that in case of war, they have one hope -
          hold out longer. winked
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 April 1 2018 16: 35
            0
            Civil garages are built taking into account hostilities. Detailed plans for universal mobilization ...
            It seems that under the cover of "Russophobia" the Swedes were able to drag through preparations for the Great Arctic fox. And judging by the situation with refugees in Europe, BP is quite possible.
          2. your1970
            your1970 April 1 2018 20: 52
            0
            Quote: siberalt
            And how can they get to us from their peninsula? :
            - if I'm not mistaken - they tank unit generally wanted on some island belay locate
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack April 1 2018 20: 57
              +4
              Quote: your1970
              they generally wanted to place a tank unit on some island

              So what? You get a dreadlock ... this one, like his ... laptop. Unsinkable, with movable towers belay
              Just some kind of, sorry, Lord request
      2. Nick
        Nick 31 March 2018 12: 02
        +2
        Quote: Chertt
        And in England there is no game "Find a Russian with chemical weapons"

        Now it is! All England is crazy about her! I mean, really crazy! wassat fool
      3. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac April 1 2018 09: 58
        +2
        Quote: Chertt
        Do they mean they play games? And in England there is no game "Find a Russian with chemical weapons"

        this is a quest.
        .
        Quote: Chertt
        Swedish publicist Matthias Joransson, who wrote the book Bjornen kommer (“The Bear Is Coming”), spoke a lot about the mood of the Swedish society. He had previously told reporters from Russia that a kind of cult had developed in the kingdom: from childhood, the inhabitants of Sweden regularly searched for Soviet submarines.

        and that is religion. it must be accompanied by a prayer - "O holy submarine. reveal to me your body and open me your hatches" otherwise drinks
    2. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 31 March 2018 08: 39
      +2
      Cool they all the same! Why a plastic bottle tied with tape where the Swede on the armor request ? Let me discuss what your ideas gentlemen fellow
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 31 March 2018 09: 42
        +3
        Quote: Siberia 9444
        Cool they all the same! And why is the plastic bottle tied with tape where the Swede is on the armor? Let me discuss what your ideas gentlemen

        Pour on the go if impatient
      2. 210ox
        210ox 31 March 2018 09: 47
        +1
        There is only one idea .... If a gasoline engine ..... then the experience of operating the ancient Gazik ... Old drivers will understand what I mean ...
        Quote: Siberia 9444
        Cool they all the same! Why a plastic bottle tied with tape where the Swede on the armor request ? Let me discuss what your ideas gentlemen fellow
      3. Askel
        Askel 31 March 2018 11: 05
        +1
        This is the latest anti-tank system. A cola is poured into the bottle, mentos is thrown, after which the grenade abruptly turns over and is sent towards the Russian tank. As a result, there is a high probability of injury to the enemy crew (with laughter).
      4. tank66
        tank66 31 March 2018 14: 26
        0
        Alcohol. Wipe the glass. Hanged on a draft, so as not to sniff /? /
      5. dauria
        dauria 31 March 2018 20: 53
        +1
        And why is the plastic bottle tied with tape where is the Swede on the request armor?


        The distinctive sign is "taxi driver bombed." Or a gay driver. Swedes, sir. Fig knows them. Well, it’s not anti-flutter load or signal buoy (if it drowns) recourse
      6. goland72
        goland72 April 2 2018 10: 56
        0
        This is a classic - washbasin!
      7. Orionvit
        Orionvit April 3 2018 18: 31
        0
        Quote: Siberia 9444
        Cool they all the same!

        These "cool" and without Russia, migrants put cancer. What Russia does not need is done by blacks and Arabs.
  2. Olgovich
    Olgovich 31 March 2018 06: 17
    +9
    Capturing them is not a problem.
    What's next do with them ?! belay That is a question of questions .... request
    And they themselves are silent, radishes lol
    1. Jerk
      Jerk 31 March 2018 06: 52
      +5
      Walk in circles and moo "ABBU would" laughing
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 31 March 2018 09: 55
      +12
      Quote: Olgovich
      Next, WHAT to do with them ?! That is a question of questions ....

      There is a whole strategy, first we give Finland to Vyborg and Karelia in exchange for holding a referendum on joining the Russian Federation. The Chukhons are happy, but early, because the results of the referendum with the help of Russian hackers in favor of Russia and Finland become the Autonomous Republic of Suomi as part of the Russian Federation, the Finns are issued Russian passports in exchange for free Russian vodka from humanitarian aid for the suffering. Then there is a springboard for the annexation of Sweden and its inclusion in the Scandinavian Federal District.
      Here's a tricky plan laughing
    3. Mih1974
      Mih1974 31 March 2018 10: 10
      +2
      That's it. That would be to "challenge" (discussion) the most rabid propagandists of Russian aggression and "talk heart to heart." And to start with the question - why should Russia occupy Sweden? fool
      After all, there are very few options - revenge for the perfect Swedes against the Russians (not in the distant past of Krala 12), the economic benefit and the strategic benefit of “taking up positions to attack other countries (well, as they assume that we will first capture Finland). recourse
      If with the “first option” - everything is clear and it depends on the Swedes themselves “don’t attack not Russia and live for yourself”, then it’s interesting further. Let’s first see the third option (it’s easier) - for example, we want to capture Norway and then at least for some reason Sweden will fit us, but even without Sweden we can capture Norway bully
      And now "on the second question" - the economic benefit is not just to seize the finished goods warehouses and drag them away, there are also losses from subsequent problems in the world (we are not Vikings tea). Sweden is not Qatar, not Kuwait where it is full of oil industry (everyone needs it) in a small space, then we look at brands. The most popular of Swedish is Volvo (but belongs to the Chinese), TV-2 - but why occupy the country if they already work here, electrolux - so it is still read 90% from China, "metro" and "ikea" - and so they poked shops here. request That is, by and large - well, there’s absolutely no profit to us from the occupation of Sweden, well, there’s absolutely no profit, while the losses are direct (loss and occupation) and indirect to the dope.
      Yes, it’s a pity it is impossible to take these “patriotic” generals as chaffs and force them to substantiate the Russian attack.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 31 March 2018 11: 36
        +6
        Quote: Mih1974
        That's it. That would be to "challenge" (discussion) the most rabid propagandists of Russian aggression and "talk heart to heart." And start with the question - what for Russia to occupy Sweden?

        a couple of days ago in the United States, one “expert” on the radio was asked: “What are the motives of the Russians to poison pride.urka and where is the evidence?”
        The answer is striking (but only for us):
        "ALL of our Western countries condemned the attack! Or are we all I. DIOTS, but Russia alone is smart ?! "
        HOW he clearly defined himself!
        Here is the answer to the question "Why?" and to everyone else .... yes
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 April 6 2018 18: 09
          +1
          belay belay yes piiiii, piiii, piiiii piiiii on piiiii through piiii in piiii and piiii drives. negative
          I just can’t understand one thing - well, there are understandable problems with education, but why did they stop teaching history and georgation? fool fool Well, why do they ALL rush to study maps (globes) and historical chronicles AFTER the attack on Russia, but not BEFORE ?! Well, how can they reach this "difficult" thought?
          How would they call THERE and say that "The Russian soldiers only did not take London by storm, but he didn’t give up to us !!!"
  3. tracer
    tracer 31 March 2018 06: 21
    +4
    There, Carlson and the baby were already "naughty." And what they are doing now is hard to imagine.
  4. Dimy4
    Dimy4 31 March 2018 06: 25
    +6
    The fact is that anti-Russian sentiments in this country are quite common.

    Guys Swedes dream of taking revenge for the Battle of Poltava. All nights without sleep.
    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim 31 March 2018 07: 05
      +1
      Quote: Dimy4
      Guys Swedes dream of taking revenge for the Battle of Poltava.

      What is it like? Declare war on Russia, then run for two months through the mountains and forests, and finally surrender with a proud look. And go drink beer. So what do they think. hi
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 31 March 2018 10: 00
      +5
      Quote: Dimy4
      Guys Swedes dream of taking revenge for the Battle of Poltava. All nights without sleep.

      Phantom pains .... Kemsk parish still dreaming
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 31 March 2018 10: 14
        +5
        Quote: Ascetic
        Kemska parish still dreaming

        Yeah ...
        The Swedes remember well the campaign of the fleet of Peter on Stockholm in 1716. At the very beginning of the 2018, at the exit from the port of Stockholm, the Swedish pilot showed all the “memorable places” of defense, simultaneously showed his summer house, and the house of the leader of the ABBA group Bjorn Ulveus ...
        laughing
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy April 1 2018 20: 20
      0
      Quote: Dimy4
      The fact is that anti-Russian sentiments in this country are quite common.

      Guys Swedes dream of taking revenge for the Battle of Poltava. All nights without sleep.

      Revenge - Poltava 2, how is it? The Swedes will come again to Poltava - this is real. Poroshenko - Mazepa, really. "And who is the role of King John (Peter)?" (Ivan Vasilievich).
      "Vague doubts torment me," there will not be enough separate VKS corps. repeat
      I understand, understand, understand ....
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    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim 31 March 2018 07: 13
      +4
      Quote: sib.ataman
      I do not remember that over the past 300 years, Russia has attacked these poor fellows.

      In 1808 or 9, we rode to them in Stockholm on horses, tried to see it nicely, already shaking. laughing
  6. farik68
    farik68 31 March 2018 06: 32
    +4
    Sweden for three months against Russia .... ??))))) Yes, guys you have high opinions for yourself ....)))
    For some reason I’m sure that the maximum on the third day you yourself will give up ....))
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac April 1 2018 10: 04
      +1
      they can be promoted and longer than 3 months. after all, the most terrible aggression is the one to which the aggressor did not appear. Why is Russia this Sweden? belay
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy April 1 2018 20: 25
      0
      Quote: farik68
      Sweden for three months against Russia .... ??))))) Yes, guys you have high opinions for yourself ....)))
      For some reason I’m sure that the maximum on the third day you yourself will give up ....))

      Have you already gone to bed? And how convenient? repeat
      Confidence must be justified. And stupid hatred .... it is stupid, as your statement ..
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy April 1 2018 21: 11
      0
      Quote: farik68
      Sweden for three months against Russia .... ??))))) Yes, guys you have high opinions for yourself ....)))
      For some reason I’m sure that the maximum on the third day you yourself will give up ....))

      I apologize. Flushed, was wrong. (Birthday)
  7. Amateur
    Amateur 31 March 2018 06: 41
    +4
    "Konstantin Sivkov, the first vice-president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems and the doctor of military sciences, believes ....." And we all wonder what Ukrainian generals / admirals drink / smoke. We must check with our ...
  8. Jerk
    Jerk 31 March 2018 06: 50
    +1
    And what for us Swedes? There are two reasons for war: the destruction of the enemy (competitor), or resources. Their resources didn’t give up to us, as a rival they are a little cooler than sprats ... Not in NATo and they have nothing to attack us with - not the enemy.
  9. izya top
    izya top 31 March 2018 06: 50
    +7
    Stockholm expects to hold out at least three months before approaching help

    1. LAWNER
      LAWNER 31 March 2018 23: 24
      0
      The third part of the Hollywood epic is called "The Fall of Stockholm."

      Plot: -So while the valiant Swedish army with metal detectors tried to find Russian submarines ...... A group of Russian-Buryat separatists stole 10 of the latest Sarmat missiles and on ice donkeys, on donkeys (the barbarians have no other transport) delivered to the coast of Sweden.
      NATO is on alert ... England heroically withdraws another 20 diplomats, America enters a no-fly zone (over America). The Swedes flee to Norway.
      And then Ostap suffered)))
  10. svp67
    svp67 31 March 2018 07: 06
    +4
    The Swedish generals planned to hold out for three months during the invasion of the Russians
    Well done, HEROES. But they asked Russia, but will it attack them then?
    And yet, our Carlsonchik and the Kid will not fight against us,

    only the malicious frecken Bock, with his Matilda, is capable of such stupidity
  11. Rav Rav
    Rav Rav 31 March 2018 07: 35
    0
    And what about a dropper on an armored car antenna ???
    1. svp67
      svp67 31 March 2018 08: 58
      0
      Quote: Rav Rav
      And what about a dropper on an armored car antenna ???

      "Doping" is taken, in the direction of travel ...
      1. Rav Rav
        Rav Rav 31 March 2018 12: 27
        0
        angry dope "ozverin"!
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 31 March 2018 07: 38
    +3
    expect to hold out for at least three months help before approach
    Well, if you plan to help wait three months, then you don’t count on her at all. Poor Swedes will die for three months in "bloody" battles, but there is no help and no help. So it’s not worth planning anything, but starting to live in harmony with Russia, then the phobias will disappear.
    1. Dude
      Dude 31 March 2018 08: 04
      +1
      Apparently, help should come from Finland and Estonia, and so on and three months - maximally fast! laughing
  13. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 31 March 2018 08: 26
    0
    The last time the Swedes fought in the 1809 year, i.e. 200 years ago, it means there is no military officer corps, there are no traditions of war, but I really want to fight (I would rather like to get in the face).
  14. Vard
    Vard 31 March 2018 08: 31
    +7
    The Swedes sat in the trench for three months ... The Russians never came ...
  15. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 31 March 2018 08: 38
    +2
    This is not funny, Karl! We have already been to those parts (Finland), extremely uncomfortable places for invasion! Well, if an airstrike + a blow from the sea + polite people from heaven, then you can’t hold out for three days, and you are about months old, it’s elementary fat, bald Karl !!! With Karl Hll, the militancy of the Swedes ended forever! Join the CIS, enter into a military alliance with Russia, the only way you will save your tolerant ass, Karl!
  16. 72jora72
    72jora72 31 March 2018 08: 43
    +1
    Quote: sib.ataman
    I do not remember that over the past 300 years, Russia has attacked these poor fellows.
    There were 18 Russian-Swedish wars in total, of which the Swedes won only one, 1614-1617.
  17. svp67
    svp67 31 March 2018 08: 55
    0
    tongue
  18. d ^ Amir
    d ^ Amir 31 March 2018 09: 12
    +5
    Yes, this is not a crazy scenario !!! This is the preparation of the next sheep for slaughter !!!! at first they will shout about defense, then they will tell that the best defense is an attack .... and even better to do this together with partners - Pshekland, Ukraine, Romania and others ... under an approving nod from across the ocean ...
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 31 March 2018 10: 43
      +3
      One thing is good - the current armament of Russia allows us to answer the question "where are we going to bury you all?" repeat Ashes can not be buried good
      1. d ^ Amir
        d ^ Amir 31 March 2018 10: 50
        +1
        well then it will end with a radiation safety belt ... and occupying land for cemeteries for their soldiers is a deliberate damage to Russia !!!! this is what kind of income item it turns out !!! if you carefully estimate it can be collected from all over Europe !!!! the same Katyn memorial with such behavior of psheks could already be smelled three times ...
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 31 March 2018 10: 53
          +1
          And to hell with us to borrow - this radioactive desert fool ? We will not attack them, which means we have no attacking plans (seizures). Well, let there be a "radioactive belt" - and sho? tongue But for years, if not centuries, it will make a land attack on Russia from the west impossible and guaranteed to push aggressive NATO away from our border good
          1. d ^ Amir
            d ^ Amir 31 March 2018 10: 58
            0
            don’t need to occupy it, of course (the radioactive desert) ... instead of Amer mongrel it is automatically formed there, but NATO is guaranteed to glue fins ... Europe will not want to live under the gun ....
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 31 March 2018 11: 06
              +1
              I did not understand you from the word at all. That is - we will attack Sweden, we’ll fight with it for three months and then we’ll “bang” and will bring future aggressors to this radioactive pistos? belay
              Waah - I'm shocked by our treachery and bloodthirstiness laughing wassat
              Swede - to end with fright. bully
              1. d ^ Amir
                d ^ Amir 31 March 2018 12: 01
                0
                why attack?!?!?!? fool bring them here to us and so drive them to slaughter !!! here, under them, cemeteries will have to be (complete ruin !!!!!) and in order not to bring anyone else from there - a radioactive desert ... or rather a safety belt ... well, I think so .... hi
        2. Normal ok
          Normal ok 31 March 2018 13: 49
          +2
          Quote: d ^ Amir
          Well, then it will all end with a radiation safety belt ...

          If you hit nuclear weapons in Sweden, then it will come back to life in the Kaliningrad region. You can’t live there either.
  19. ZAV69
    ZAV69 31 March 2018 09: 46
    0
    Quote: Mavrikiy

    Carlson with Lewis, this is nonsense.

    It was necessary to draw Madsen.
  20. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 31 March 2018 09: 51
    +2
    During the Russian-Swedish war 1808 / 09 in Sweden, the district of fortified area-fortress Sveaborg built their plan of war ... According to their plans, Sveaborg should hold out (under siege) for at least 1 a year ... Sveaborg surrendered in 2 of the month .... But ... everything flows, everything changes .... military art, economics, production, politics change ... now
    It's about 3 months. The progress is "obvious"! The combat effectiveness of the Swedish Armed Forces has grown for a whole month! And this is only for 200 years! hi
  21. odometer
    odometer 31 March 2018 09: 55
    +1
    As for the cult for the search for submarines - the Soviet Navy itself gave rise to the incident with the boat skillfully used.
  22. koralvit
    koralvit 31 March 2018 10: 33
    +3
    Gentlemen, the generals of Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Denmark, Norway, if you have brains, then think, why should Russia attack you and occupy your territory? We have enough of our own, God forbid "give a mind." There are more minerals in our territory than you have combined. To put you on the contentment of Russia? Feed you for free? In Russia there are still enough of their poor; they still need to raise their standard of living. Let’s better trade with each other and not invent any fables, both you and us will benefit more.
    1. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 31 March 2018 10: 45
      +1
      They even have a Russian naval base, as in Sevastopol. They do not even have the Russian population, which must be protected from the Nazis. They have nothing at all: no brains, no fortitude.
    2. LMN
      LMN 31 March 2018 16: 42
      +3
      Quote: koralvit
      Gentlemen, the generals of Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Denmark, Norway, if you have brains, then think, why should Russia attack you and occupy your territory? We have enough of our own, God forbid "give a mind." There are more minerals in our territory than you have combined. To put you on the contentment of Russia? Feed you for free? In Russia there are still enough of their poor; they still need to raise their standard of living. Let’s better trade with each other and not invent any fables, both you and us will benefit more.


      Just Norway, this is perhaps the only country in Europe that Russia (theoretically) makes sense to conquer hi
    3. kan123
      kan123 31 March 2018 21: 56
      0
      The Russian Federation does not have land comparable to Sweden. Two-thirds - the tundra, forest-tundra, and Scandinavia under the influence of the Gulf Stream - the Russian Federation, the Bogogundyaev himself ordered, to grab it, we will plant tomatoes there, we will buy silk footcloths.
  23. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 31 March 2018 10: 41
    0
    In the atomic shelters of the Swedes such a stock of grub? And what sewage system? At first everything is pumped up, then - they will die of hunger.
    And why do we need that Sweden? Are there all Russians there? Such Swedes are sitting and dreaming: “if only they would attack! We would shoot! And then we surrendered with honor”
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 31 March 2018 15: 30
      +3
      And do you know that from what in the West have learned to make "meat"?
      1. tracer
        tracer 31 March 2018 23: 48
        0
        I'm afraid beauty, most readers are not interested in this type of news.
  24. Strashila
    Strashila 31 March 2018 10: 44
    0
    This kid should be behind a machine gun ... and Karlosonchik-dear hung with grenades and act as a grenade launcher. Sweden, but why did she give up ... we and our own snow piled up ... and let the Arabs themselves torment themselves and not hope that the Russians will come and send them to explore the Russian tundra ... they have it.
  25. nnz226
    nnz226 31 March 2018 11: 49
    0
    NATO member countries can count on the help of allies in the alliance ... They can count on it, but whether they get help from the enta is a baaals question .... "Soyuznichkas" can get off sending tents and dry rations to the "attacked country" ...
  26. Rostislav
    Rostislav 31 March 2018 11: 59
    +4
    Well, how can an article do without references to the "esteemed expert" Sivkov? belay
  27. konstantin68
    konstantin68 31 March 2018 12: 05
    +4
    I read the title of the article ... I immediately remembered the joke about the elusive Joe. Why are you asking?
  28. Lesorub
    Lesorub 31 March 2018 12: 20
    +1
    The Swedish generals planned to hold out for three months during the invasion of the Russians

    As these countries "tired" of escalating the "Russian attack" on them friendly and fluffy, in a real conflict I advise their army and politicians to have a cyanite tablet, just in case)))
    1. Fayter2017
      Fayter2017 31 March 2018 13: 52
      +5
      The guys need to react as hard as possible to such statements by the Swedes. Until the ambassador’s call to the carpet explaining who, why and why uses the topic of Russia in the context of a possible attack on Sweden. In the current conditions, many underestimate the information war, the example of my Ukraine clearly shows that it will not take much time to fool a significant part of the population.
  29. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 31 March 2018 13: 18
    +2
    Where, in principle, did this semi-crazy idea come from in Sweden - to defend oneself from Russian aggression.

    Why is it half-insane? :)))) We understand that we will not attack them, but how should they know about this? We are much stronger than Sweden, we have contradictions with Europe, which creates a potential conflict. It is clear that if they prepare the armed forces for war, then take us as a model of a probable enemy. Let them learn, what problems?
    Our task in relations with other (including European) countries is to look for what unites us, and not what divides us. Are they getting ready to defend themselves? Well done, we too :)))) And then suddenly Sweden will attack :))))) And the rest - we need to establish peaceful, cultural, economic interactions and we will all be happy :)
  30. family tree
    family tree 31 March 2018 13: 24
    +2
    Grandfather, in Norway he ended that war, a mortar worker, without the DCBF, where on foot, where on skis, where on woods, from Zapolyarny.
    It would seem, what does Sweden have to do with it? Who cares? what
  31. Normal ok
    Normal ok 31 March 2018 13: 46
    0
    This "news was already at VO a couple of weeks ago. We chew the same thing again. Is nothing interesting happening in the world, in the military sphere?
  32. tank66
    tank66 31 March 2018 14: 34
    0
    I wonder which of the Swedes are lumberjacks. Guys, it’s understandable. / Thoughts aloud - suddenly they themselves will be nailed /
  33. sabakina
    sabakina 31 March 2018 14: 53
    +3
    Nevertheless, in the mountainous areas of the country, the Swedish military can indeed gain a foothold for a long time.

    And it will happen something like this:
    1. your1970
      your1970 April 1 2018 21: 01
      +1
      Great movie !!! I recommend it to everyone !!
      "- If I give you food, will you delete me from the list?
      - I can’t communicate anything, but I’ll do my best .. "
  34. sabakina
    sabakina 31 March 2018 14: 55
    +6
    First you will need to capture Finland. That is, the invasion of Sweden itself will be preceded by a rather long stage - the front-line operation of 5-10 days, ”
    And that Finns were very offended. Swedes are 3 months old, and they are only 5-10 days old.
    1. your1970
      your1970 April 3 2018 11: 29
      0
      Quote: sabakina
      First you will need to capture Finland. That is, the invasion of Sweden itself will be preceded by a rather long stage - the front-line operation of 5-10 days, ”
      And that Finns were very offended. Swedes are 3 months old, and they are only 5-10 days old.
      -I would place the Finns for such an insult to them would declare war ....
  35. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 31 March 2018 16: 47
    +1
    Firstly, I’m sure that we are not going to attack Sweden
    secondly, they just flatter themselves
    thirdly, they probably forgot to take pills for a schiza
  36. Foxsvl
    Foxsvl 31 March 2018 17: 55
    0
    It’s like grown men, but they’ll play war games .. We’d do business.
    1. K-50
      K-50 31 March 2018 19: 26
      0
      Quote: Foxvl
      It’s like grown men, but they’ll play war games .. We’d do business.

      So they are already busy with the matter, Madame and the dog walk. laughing
  37. K-50
    K-50 31 March 2018 19: 25
    0
    Something they have a rare forest. I have a park under the window, so in the summer after 10-15 meters a solid wall of the forest, mushrooms / berries almost at the exit of the entrance.
  38. Slovak
    Slovak 31 March 2018 19: 59
    0
    The plans are interesting. Should the war with the Russian Federation happen (by the prayers of the Swedes), Russia can, of course, wait 5 days until all mobilized ones crawl out of the dungeons. Then the "Sarmatian" comb them all and the war will end. The Swedes want this? Not? Then you don’t have to scare yourself
  39. kan123
    kan123 31 March 2018 21: 54
    0
    Sweden is stupid to seize - if only to help the Norwegians to return the brothers, their eternal lands, which the Swedes seized from them. And the finals also need to somehow cover their loss from their adventure near Leningrad. The Swedes, with their terrorism, captured the whole of Scandinavia, so they will learn the Finnish language and the Russian language for three months.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 22: 06
      +4
      Quote: kan123
      help return, to the Norwegians, their eternal lands, which the Swedes have they wanted

      belay
      What, sorry, did the Swedes do ???
      Quote: kan123
      ... Finnish language ...

      The language is Finnish. And Finnish is a train station.
      GYYY laughing laughing laughing
  40. Forever so
    Forever so 31 March 2018 22: 34
    +1
    Three months bombed Sweden AN-2, until the Swedish generals surrendered.
  41. Evgenii Xolod
    Evgenii Xolod 31 March 2018 23: 04
    0
    -Do you have a plan?
    = Yes, a good Afghan plan.
    - And you stick to it ???
    = no, we smoke it .......
  42. kotoman
    kotoman April 1 2018 06: 19
    0
    In the event of a Russian-NATO conflict, the troops of the bloc will be brought into Sweden if there is no own VS. The neutrals cannot sit out. To prevent this, we need our own armed forces. Maybe we will consider this option?
  43. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper April 1 2018 20: 31
    0
    The kid and Karlsson hold the defenses, while Niels is preparing a squadron of fighting geese at this time. Mumitroll reservists (Tove Jansson wrote in Swedish) are urgently mastering hand-to-hand fighting techniques in the style of "seven on one." Tofsla and Vifsla reconciled with Morra and think for three in anticipation of a denouement ... Pippi Long Stocking in thought - to change stockings for white tights, or is it alright?
    ... Charles XII turns in a coffin ...
  44. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper April 1 2018 20: 37
    0
    Where, in principle, did this semi-crazy idea come from in Sweden - to defend oneself from Russian aggression.
    From where the Skripals were poisoned in Great Britain. Britons in the ass from Brexitis and frantically looking for where to turn the arrows. And the Swedes hitherto grew up with migrants to the very worst!
  45. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General April 2 2018 15: 02
    +1
    Stockholm expects to hold out at least three months before approaching help


    Until the approach of the Estonian invincible army? laughing
  46. w70
    w70 April 3 2018 06: 53
    0
    I don’t understand why Russia should fight with the whole world!
  47. ochakow703
    ochakow703 April 4 2018 05: 40
    0
    But if Russia does not attack Sweden !? How much they can hold out. With such a thought process, they will start to eat themselves, suspecting war in every Russian neighbor. Yes, and pederestia is booming, but how to breed?
  48. Alexander Russian
    Alexander Russian April 4 2018 10: 30
    0
    As I understand it, everyone will give up, they just compete who will last longer.
  49. TOR2
    TOR2 April 4 2018 23: 38
    0
    In particular, Swedish generals and politicians are working on a plan for total mobilization. Stockholm expects to hold out at least three months before the approach of help.
    Swedish generals and Swedish K, in the event of a turmoil, you will hold out for 3 months from the invasion of NATO troops, in general you will be well done. laughing