"Guantanamo" for germs or plague blankets for natives?

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The network of American microbiological laboratories deployed around the perimeter of Russia has been discussed for a long time and much. It would seem, why go back to this topic, if the laboratories are still built, and new data that can somehow affect our attitude to this aspect of the American presence on our borders does not appear?

Nevertheless, there is one reason for such a conversation. And this is nothing but an extremely increased degree of military threat from the United States and its European satellites.





Think anything, but if the Russian foreign minister says that Americans are preparing Europeans for the use of nuclear weapons against Russia, and the president of Russia in his annual message devotes a great time to new types of weapons, which have a strategic purpose, we have the right to think that war is really marking time on our borders.

So, those opportunities that were previously modestly called “potential” are about to turn out to be the most sought-after and priority ones. And microbiological laboratories, which “potentially can” produce combat strains of the most dangerous microorganisms, are likely to be engaged in this.

If you have not already taken ...

Before proceeding to the analysis of the situation opening up from a new perspective, let's still give at least a little help for those who were in blissful ignorance or just lazy to reinvent all the information that is in the public domain.

So, as part of an agreement signed by the Ministry of Health of Ukraine and the US Department of Defense, 29.08.2005, a whole network of facilities was opened in the territory of our neighboring state, the purpose of which is to study strains of various pathogenic microorganisms. Among these objects were both relatively small laboratories on the basis of various institutions of the Ukrainian Ministry of Health, and full-fledged reference laboratories with a third level of microbiological protection and capable of working with highly active strains of pathogenic microorganisms, including those with fighting ones.

Also, similar work was carried out with other states located along the perimeter of Russia, and not only. In particular, in the field of this cooperation, our Georgian neighbors have succeeded: in addition to the Central Reference Laboratory, several other facilities were built there, including a bank of causative agents of acute and dangerous diseases.

Add to this Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Moldova, Kyrgyzstan and even Armenia, which joined this project a little later, but quite actively.

It would be useful to remind you that our neighbors met Americans with empty hands. In addition to the property of old scientific research institutes or veterinary stations, they transmitted, in particular, the collections of fighting anthrax, plague, tularemia and other strongest pathogens that they had preserved from the times of the USSR.

This program was promoted under very plausible excuses. It was about preventing a threat, taking control of a dangerous Soviet inheritance, taking care of the life and health of people in post-Soviet countries and preventing the spread of natural foci of infections traditionally present in a given state.

However, there were great oddities (to put it mildly). For example, the curator and main implementer of the program was the US Department of Defense. Even more strangely, in fact, this was done by RUMO, the Intelligence Agency of the US Department of Defense, a direct analogue of our GRU. In 2017, a well-known “Cyberkurbut” conducted a serious investigation into this matter, and the results published by him directly point to specific curators from the RUMO, operating both through diplomatic and allegedly commercial channels. The table below quite clearly shows who and in what way promoted and implemented the American program.

"Guantanamo" for germs or plague blankets for natives?


The very need for such cooperation caused some surprise: oddly enough, Ukrainian sanitary-epidemiological services were considered to be among the most competent in Europe, and Ukraine hardly needed such close care from the American defense department, even if it got rid of the thought of possible threatened by terrible Soviet bacteria.

The only relatively plausible assumption was that the Americans, who are very sensitive about potentially unlawful actions on their territory, are trying in this way to remove some developments from under American jurisdiction. Something like the camp for prisoners of war at the American Guantanamo base: if the US military and special services tortured prisoners in the United States, someone would probably go to jail. In addition, the prisoners would be subject to the jurisdiction of American courts, they would have been assigned lawyers, the terms of their detention without charge would be rather small and so on. Therefore, the Americans acted smarter: they placed their prison outside the United States and were given the opportunity to torture prisoners with impunity and keep them under arrest for years without presenting any arguments whatsoever.

Is it possible that in this case the Americans were guided by similar motives? Yes, it is possible. But is this the only motive? And the main thing: should we have been calm about this program, knowing that the Americans are going to do something there that we need to hide even from our own government?

The conclusions reached by analysts, even then, were seriously doubted. In particular, the idea put forward by someone that the Americans are allegedly building some kind of microbiological analogue of missile defense does not withstand criticism if only because no one will attack America or its closest allies, releasing the plague and anthrax near its borders. The official version is also untenable - there are many states in the world in which the infectious situation is much worse than in Central Asia, not to mention Ukraine. And such a large-scale program would be much more appropriate and necessary somewhere in Africa or Bangladesh, and not in Odessa, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, and so on ...

The arguments of those who spoke of the possible sabotage use of microbiological samples available there sounded much more rational. And, in particular, sabotage against Russia, which was once confirmed by the chief sanitary doctor of Russia (at that time) Gennady Onishchenko. Let me remind you that once he said bluntly that the sudden outbreaks of African swine fever are nothing but sabotage, the traces of which lead to the Georgian Central Laboratory.

However, the picture we can see today is even more unpleasant. And the fact that it was difficult to understand a few years ago is now becoming much clearer ...

First of all, we need to once again note that the Americans and their allies traditionally treat us more seriously than we do to ourselves. And their analysts, as well as secret services in general, never abandoned their attempts to finish off Russia. Even when she showed her friendliness in every possible way and tried to go strictly in line with Anglo-American politics.

There is no need to go far for examples: this is the support of the Chechen separatists, the withdrawal of the Americans from the ABM treaty, vile strikes like the “uranium deal” and the military rout of Yugoslavia, which was necessary for the West with only one goal - to destroy Russia's last ally in Europe and not to give her, if anything, a foothold in the Balkans and in the Adriatic.

One of the manifestations of such Russophobic foresight was the network of microbiological laboratories that we are talking about.

A small clarification: we will not deny that these stations could be used both for research purposes and for subversive purposes. But now the main thing is becoming more and more obvious: these laboratories are a microbiological mine on which Russia can “step in” if it decides to force release of the left-bank and southern Ukraine.

Yes, I mean it is the opportunity now available to Americans not only to infect the liberated territories with strains of dangerous microorganisms, but also to present everything in such a way that the Americans themselves have nothing to do with it.

In order to realize such a threat, US intelligence agencies will not need much effort. They can even depict artillery shelling, even the unsuccessful attack of Russian special forces, even the attack of military units of the forces of Novorossia, even the fall of an unidentified UAV ... In general, there are enough options, and all of them are quite simple to implement and are quite good for fooling public of their own states.

And they don’t need anything more: they don’t exactly plan to justify themselves before us ...

Thus, the Americans and their allies will be able to reduce to almost zero the economic benefits of joining the fertile and industrialized regions of the east and south of Ukraine. Moreover, because of the likelihood of infection spreading to Russian territories, in particular, located in the middle and lower reaches of the Don River, the damage to Russian agriculture and the tourism industry can be extremely large and very long.

In case the reader feels that the author simply scares him, let me remind you once again that S. Lavrov spoke about the possibility of using nuclear weapons against the Russian Federation, and President Putin spoke about our strategic weapons and illustrated his story with pictures in which the trajectories our missiles ended up somewhere in North America.

And this, I assure you, is by no means a joke and journalistic nightmares on duty.

Well, the saddest thing ...

The only reliable way to neutralize the microbiological threat is a nuclear strike on the object. Alas, the defeat of the microbiological laboratory with conventional weapons would rather set the infection free, rather than solve the problem. Not give full guarantee and the use of thermobaric ammunition. Perhaps the problem would be solved by tons of napalm or other flammable liquids, but delivering them to the point of discharge is somewhat more difficult.

Of course, there is another way. Namely, the counter threat of comparable scale. And she, I dare to hope, can cool the hot Anglo-Saxon head on both sides of the Atlantic. But if the Americans hope for their security and still go to such an escalation, the situation will become incredibly complex and unpredictable.

In conclusion, I want to remind you that the “enlightened Europe” already has a successful experience of bacteriological warfare. Yes, we are talking about the most plague blankets that the Spanish conquistadors gave to the South American Indians.

Centuries passed. Blankets went up a little.

But the enemy remained the same.
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  1. +4
    30 March 2018 06: 44
    "In particular, in the field of this cooperation, our Georgian neighbors were very successful in addition to the Central Reference Laboratory, several more facilities were built there, including a bank of pathogens of acute and dangerous diseases.
    Add here Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Moldova, Kyrgyzstan and even Armenia, which joined this project a little later, but quite actively. "

    Victor, check the information carefully. Kyrgyzstan certainly did not allow the Americans to have laboratories.
    "The only reliable way to neutralize a microbiological threat is to strike at an object."
    Those who allow locating potentially dangerous objects on their territory should understand this.
    But it seems to me that bribes and blackmail there prevailed over reason.
    1. +1
      30 March 2018 14: 38
      When I was looking for information, I came across a mention of a similar “cooperation” between Kyrgyzstan and Canada. In my understanding, these are two tentacles of one octopus. Although, perhaps, you are right and not worth mentioning about the Kyrgyz. Thank.
      1. +1
        31 March 2018 08: 41
        The Americans asked for this territory in Bishkek right in the botanical garden! Not allowed anywhere. Neither in the botanical garden, nor on the mountain in a swamp. Sent culturally with such initiatives.
  2. +2
    30 March 2018 07: 20
    Yes, they regularly poison us with the flu. The economy of the country from each epidemic is losing billions. And the pharmaceutical industry makes billions.
    1. 0
      30 March 2018 08: 14
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      And the pharmaceutical industry makes billions.

      And the pharmaceutical industry of which country? question two - well, we gain immunity in return? laughing
      1. +1
        30 March 2018 08: 14
        Quote: aybolyt678
        Well, we gain immunity in return?

        And I thought the complications. laughing
        1. +1
          30 March 2018 08: 18
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          And I thought the complications. laughing

          this is someone who is not lucky - natural selection, what can you do, we do not need wimps
      2. +2
        30 March 2018 09: 17
        NOT countries, but certain individuals with certain surnames.
    2. +5
      30 March 2018 20: 21
      Igor, when I read somewhere, that the flu virus, under a strong increase, is very similar to a biorobot, and clearly not of terrestrial origin. Have you heard anything about the flu epidemic in the Middle Ages or a little later?
      1. +2
        31 March 2018 22: 55
        Quote: sabakina
        Igor, once I read somewhere that the flu virus, under a strong increase, is very similar to a biorobot, and clearly not of terrestrial origin

        he is earthly. Be scared. Under a microscope, so many things seem amusing and unearthly. For the epidemic and genetic variability of the virus, a sufficient population density and virus migration routes are needed. In the Middle Ages and even later, the density was not quite sufficient, and the path from city to city lasted longer than the period of the disease.
  3. +12
    30 March 2018 07: 22
    These laboratories are just a good reason to raise a scandal in Russia that the West is developing weapons of mass destruction under the “research” firm. Moreover, the scandal must be raised at the UN level. And this had to be done for a long time, even when the African plague "unexpectedly" appeared in Russia. However, something tells me that nothing will be done about this. They do not know how to "scandal" in Russia internationally, and this is a bad "scandal" - this is one of the main methods of ideological warfare and if you do not know how to use it, then you will lose in this "war" ...
    1. +1
      30 March 2018 07: 59
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      However, something tells me that nothing will be done about this. They do not know how to “scandalize” internationally in Russia, and this is bad

      And the truth is bad. But what about the famous American - "What is your evidence!?" We had a case of plague infection near the border with one of the countries with such a laboratory. They wrote to VO, even the military in Kant was vaccinated against the plague on this occasion. Although the base is located about 10 hours from the infection site by car. Before the death of the teenager from the plague, for decades there were no cases of infection. This does not prove intentional sabotage, but the sediment remained.
    2. +1
      30 March 2018 08: 15
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      They don’t know how to "scandalize" in Russia internationally,

      +++++++++ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Although Zakharova inspires!
    3. +2
      30 March 2018 09: 32
      Yes. The USSR was able to make and promote accusations at the international level. We have a position of defenders. And if you only defend yourself, then the battle will be lost sooner or later ..
  4. +1
    30 March 2018 07: 32
    According to the author, one of the laboratories was located in Lugansk ... Therefore, probably, it is not necessary to engage in conspiracy theories - those who were interested in this have rummaged there for a long time and everything that needs to be learned.
    1. 0
      30 March 2018 12: 01
      Quote: Chichikov
      According to the author, one of the laboratories was located in Lugansk ... Therefore, probably, it is not necessary to engage in conspiracy theories - those who were interested in this have rummaged there for a long time and everything that needs to be learned.

      I wonder why then there are no loud revelations in the media?
      1. 0
        31 March 2018 15: 03
        Quote: Normal ok

        Author: Viktor Kuzovkov

        Do you already have braces there or not?
        - Lugansk, 2012, Lugansk Regional Diagnostic Veterinary Laboratory, donor - US Department of Defense, cost 1 million 746 thousand 312 dollars (from Russian sources - the figure is amazing accuracy ... usually do not believe this)
        Works to this day. So the LC is not in courses that year, the Russian Federation, too ...
        It is easier to say that once in a year 4 is nothing loud, it means the authors of these essays are embarrassed. Such a case of disclosing missed. Well, you could actually "present a test tube" to the UN or just to justify the alert news about Ukraine ...
  5. +1
    30 March 2018 08: 12
    Yes, it’s about the same plague blankets that the Spanish conquistadors gave to the South American Indians.
    I don’t know from the conquistadors, in my opinion they didn’t give anything but only baptized with a sword, but the Pawnee Indians, who were almost destroyed by smallpox, after treacherous betrayal and the defeat of the brotherly Sioux and Dakota, were given blankets. For your erudition: Russia was the first country to introduce mass vaccination against smallpox 100 years earlier than Europe; there is a corresponding decree of Catherine 2 on the organization of smallpox houses
    1. +1
      31 March 2018 15: 24
      Quote: aybolyt678
      : Russia was the first country to introduce mass vaccination against smallpox 100 years earlier than Europe, there is a corresponding decree of Catherine 2 on the organization of smallpox houses

      Well, let's say it was not so. Otherwise, smallpox in Russia would have been defeated earlier.
      An effective method of combating smallpox was inoculation (artificial infection). In the XVIII century, it became "fashionable" in Europe. Entire armies, as was the case with the troops of George Washington, underwent mass inoculation. The first persons of the states on themselves showed the effectiveness of this method. In France, in 1774, in the year of death from the smallpox of Louis XV, his son Louis XVI was inoculated.
      So she did more than the decree ... She popularized it, starting with herself! It is very important. Simple decrees in Russia (as well as prohibitions) can achieve little. According to Alexandra Bekasova, Dean of the Faculty of History of the European University in St. Petersburg, shortly after the experiment, about 140 aristocrats "were inoculated" from Catherine.
      The Dimsdale vaccine was not the first one made in the capital of the empire. Before him, the Scottish doctor Rogerson instilled the British consul's children from smallpox, but this event did not receive any resonance, since the empress was not paid attention to. In the case of Dimsdale, it was about the beginning of mass vaccination in Russia. In memory of this significant event, a silver medal with the image of Catherine the Great, the inscription “Set an example for myself” and the date of a significant event were knocked out
      In St. Petersburg, the work that he began was continued by his compatriot Thomas Holiday (Holiday). He became the first doctor of the Ospeni (Osprivivivalniy) house, where everyone was vaccinated for free and awarded a silver ruble with a portrait of the empress as a reward.
      inoculations and other forms of variolation first in Europe, the Greeks in Constantinople (early 18th century)
      The English doctor Thomas Dimsdale for the vaccination of smallpox to Catherine received the Baron's title, the title of Life Medic and a large pension.
      But long-term and comprehensive protection against smallpox has not yet been created. Only thanks to the English physician Edward Jenner, and the method of vaccination he discovered was able to defeat smallpox. The first vaccination against smallpox in Russia according to his method was made in 1801 by Professor Efrem Osipovich Mukhin to the boy Anton Petrov, who received the surname Vaktsinov with the light hand of Empress Maria Fyodorovna.
      So let’s decide so, in the Republic of Ingushetia, Catherine 2 was the first to introduce and popularize the method of combating smallpox. And this was the “corrupting influence of the West”. laughing
      1. 0
        31 March 2018 22: 34
        Quote: Antares
        So let’s decide so, in the Republic of Ingushetia, Catherine 2 first introduced and popularized the method of combating smallpox.

        “It’s a shame, gentlemen, that in our age enlightened by smallpox die” - Catherine II
  6. 0
    30 March 2018 09: 31
    When Mudan Yushchenko seized power in dill in 2004, already then weekly 2000 wrote in detail about this misfortune. And if Russia did not take the whole range of necessary reconnaissance and sabotage measures against the Nazi actions of Ukraine, can it at least do something now?
    1. +1
      30 March 2018 10: 03
      Quote: scud
      maybe at least now something will be done?

      according to the iskander or caliber with special warhead kiloton so at 20 for each laboratory ???
  7. +1
    30 March 2018 09: 44
    They say that the African plague came from Georgia to Chechnya. A lot of wild boars died.
  8. +1
    30 March 2018 13: 15
    Take these objects under the berth of rockets with the necessary contents, and as soon as their staff is rocking out - to burn in the trash, to the very mantle of the earth.
    1. 0
      31 March 2018 15: 28
      Quote: ibirus
      Take these objects at the sight of missiles with the necessary contents, and as soon as their staff is rocking, they will burn into the trash, right up to the mantle of the earth.

      Lugansk under the control of the Russian Federation. Can start with her? hi
      1. +3
        31 March 2018 15: 32
        Quote: Antares
        Can start with her?

        Start with yourself. In Ukraine, the US biolaboratory 11. One Ternopil region. there is a lab at Baxter Corporation.
        They tried to do a similar thing, near Kharkov, in the village of Merefa ..
        And in total there are 11 of them from Uzhgorod to Dnepropetrovsk.
  9. +1
    31 March 2018 16: 11
    Quote: Antares
    Quote: Normal ok

    Author: Viktor Kuzovkov

    Do you already have braces there or not?
    - Lugansk, 2012, Lugansk Regional Diagnostic Veterinary Laboratory, donor - US Department of Defense, cost 1 million 746 thousand 312 dollars (from Russian sources - the figure is amazing accuracy ... usually do not believe this)
    Works to this day. So the LC is not in courses that year, the Russian Federation, too ...
    It is easier to say that once in a year 4 is nothing loud, it means the authors of these essays are embarrassed. Such a case of disclosing missed. Well, you could actually "present a test tube" to the UN or just to justify the alert news about Ukraine ...

    Thank you for your vigilance. But there is one caveat - under Yanukovych, the Americans could not conduct experiments there that could be regarded as subversive, anti-Russian, or simply criminal. And later could not for another reason. But does this mean that they did not intend to? This is already doubtful, given the general doubtfulness of the project, which I, as the author, pointed out. Therefore, you can believe in anything — your faith is no better than mine, but mine is at least supported by something.

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