The collapse of Russia from the inside. Where is the way to salvation?

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A kingdom divided into itself will not survive,
and the house divided in itself will not stand
(Gospel of Matthew)


But we are divided. Divided by income levels of social groups, by the degree of access to public goods, by clans, attached to the budget sinecure, by conviction and, what is most sad, are locked in personal worlds about the large and complex external world, which causes hardly any hostility in the course of social processes. And our common home staggered under the onslaught of external very unfriendly forces.





Our fate, the fate of the Russian people, the fate of Russian civilization in the hands of the state. The state controls all the processes of development / degradation of the country, protects us from external encroachments and collapse from the inside. With protection from external enemies, everything is more or less clear to us - in the message to the Federal Assembly of Vladimir Putin this aspect was convincingly stated.

Another thing - the danger to the country, coming from within. First of all, such dangers emanate from the state system itself. The bureaucratic evolution threatens to bring the country's socio-economic development to a standstill. And this path was chosen by the most active, but destructive part of people (political scientists call this part of society “elite”, as is customary in cynology). We will adhere to this terminology here.

Since the chosen path of development was obviously destructive, the author outlined his vision of improving the state machine in the book [2]. Then resend to [3]. In addition, an extract was made in the form of proposals for improving the public administration system in the interests of constructive socio-economic development. These proposals were put on the table to one official.

And strange events began. In all levels of government and territories, like mushrooms after a rain, public chambers and public councils at departments began to appear. These structures quickly became rooted, decent budget allocations were made for them, and “active” citizens joined the chambers and councils. A system has been created - the entourage of democracy. Sometimes these bodies are useful, for example, after the episodic intervention of Dr. Roshal in the collapse of health care, but his voice is duller.

The main essence of the proposal was to create full new, the fourth branch of government - public power. Since state administration is a system, it, like any system, must have inalienable attributes. In particular, feedback. It is impossible to control anything without knowing the true state of the control object. It is impossible to manage society without understanding what society needs, to what extent it is fooling and what can be expected from it.

In this article there will be no material about the robbers-oligarchs, thievish officials, thieves-bankers and paid "roofs" of the siloviki. There will be no corruption and incompetence, and even a betrayal of national interests, part of our glorious "elite." There will also be no pro, to put it mildly, flaws in the public administration system in all its branches. Too big and hard work.

Let's get down to business. Since the volume of the article is limited, all the details will be indicated thesis, without chewing.

I. MAIN FUNCTIONS OF PUBLIC POWER AS A FEEDBACK IN THE SYSTEM OF STATE ADMINISTRATION

1.1. Determining the needs of society in all spheres of social life and the formation of applications for levels of budget funding to the legislature.
1.2. Public control over the efficiency of spending budget funds.
1.3. Notification of supervisory authorities from the executive branch of violations committed when spending budgetary funds, legislative authorities - of infringement of the rights of citizens by the judiciary, law enforcement agencies, executive authorities.
1.4. Submission for public discussion of the verdicts of the bodies based on the results of consideration of appeals from public authorities - in the event that there is dissatisfaction with public opinion in these verdicts.
1.5. Formation of an initiative to prevent, demotion, removal from office, dismissal from public service of officials who issue unsatisfactory verdicts on appeals from public authorities.
1.6. Add others...

Ii. PRINCIPLES OF FORMATION AND FUNCTIONING OF PUBLIC AUTHORITY

2.1. For free.
2.2. No elections.
2.3. No appointments.
2.4. Public examination: draft laws of all levels of legislative power; departmental regulations in the event of a public initiative; the state of the information space in a broad sense; tariffs of natural monopolies, infrastructure development.
2.5. Public expertise is organized by public authorities by ordering from specialized institutions on a competitive basis for budget funds and must be paid for by the Treasury.
2.6. Compulsory implementation of the recommendations of public authorities by any bodies of other branches of government, justified by public expertise.
2.7. Possession of the right to legislative initiative.
2.8. In the general case - the introduction of the category of Justice in the sense that everyone receives what he has earned or what benefit he has brought to society.

III. TECHNOLOGY

Since the creation of any governing bodies always entails bureaucracy, and the bureaucracy tends to multiply uncontrollably, mimic and devour uncontrollably all available resources, there is a proposal to establish public authority on modern technologies. The author wrote about such technologies in the series of articles “Motherland! Digitization or death ”,“ Russia had two misfortunes, but came up with a third, ”therefore I refer readers to these articles to familiarize themselves with the possibilities of modern management technologies for anything you want.

How to prevent the rebirth of a man who “killed the dragon and turns into the same dragon,” as happened in an Indian tale? How to prevent informal agreements between self-serving people and the creation of interest groups that any power will turn to their advantage? How to eradicate the bureaucracy in general?

There were people who also thought about it and invented the DAO. The following, to some extent, edited, are the positions from [4].

DAO is a decentralized autonomous organization based on the blockchain technology and without owners in the traditional sense, as well as controlling and governing bodies like the board of directors. A characteristic feature of such companies is the absence of any hierarchy in principle.

The “command and control” structure is not applicable in the formal association of a group of people in this case. Such an approach, when we first met, leads to a misunderstanding and non-acceptance of the concept by business, society, since this model is rather unusual and incomprehensible to many.

It should be noted that when introducing DAO, the first pancake was a lump that had a negative impact on the activity of its development. So, the first large DAO during the crowdfunding campaign was able to attract $ 150 million of investments, but immediately after the start of the project, the company was hacked. The fraudsters discovered vulnerabilities in the system and were able to withdraw Ethereum coins in the amount of $ 50 million. Despite the fact that the developers suggested ways to fix the problems, the development of DAO to some extent lost activity.

Of course, this experience should be thoroughly taken into account and duplicate decision-making systems in the event of the detection of contradictions between real public opinion and the result obtained in the execution of a smart contract. Duplication can be adjusted at least within the framework of thematic groups in social networks. And vulnerabilities in the program code should be eliminated until the hacking of the system becomes economically inexpedient.

A DAO is a group of people in a decentralized network in technological connection with “smart contracts” (smart contracts). The basis of the companies are stakeholders who are of value to society, people who can benefit him, but, most importantly, are active in the cause of public benefit. For the implementation of "smart contracts", if necessary expertise, requiring processing of large amounts of data, it is advisable to use artificial intelligence. Get faster and better. At first, competitive examinations can be organized with the participation of competent experts and artificial intelligence.

Let's apply DAO technology to public administration. In this case, the basic principles of management within public authority can be the following basic provisions:

• the absence of governing bodies, when management is carried out by active members of society by voting "For" or "Against" on any topical issue relating to the activities of public power;
• a public asset does not have to be permanent – ​​it is easy to form a voluntary initiative group of competent people on a specific issue that requires certain knowledge of the essence of a topical public problem;
• instead of the traditional hiring of personnel for the civil service, an active citizen registers on a resource of the appropriate profile and level, certifies his professional competence and receives an appropriate smart contract;
• after that, the members of the formed public group organize a discussion of the problem on the scale of the territory that the problem affects, register proposals coming from any person in this territory and vote. For the initiatives that received support, the people who put forward them receive some bonuses, points, tokens, in other words, public authoritymathematically expressed;
• after the decision is made, the work of the executor (s), who have assumed obligations to solve a social problem, begins;
• in the event that during the execution of a smart contract, any of the executors will execute it improperly, i.e. not in public, but in personal or group interests, any citizen can initiate the recall of such a performer;
• the decision to remove such a performer is made by the public by direct vote throughout the region, with the participation of those citizens who chose the team or approved its composition from among the initiators. Thus, in DAO excluded possible conflicts due to lobbying the interests of certain individuals and groups;
• a retired performer is downgraded in the rankings, and the biographical mark will never be removed, or it may be removed by popular vote if there are other merits to society;
• in order to prevent abuses by any members of society trying to harm the performer, for example, by slander, in case of rejection of the proposal to remove a member of the team of initiators, its author also receives a corresponding mark in his authority - public rating (authority).
• in the proposed technology society is not organized around people, but around the values ​​they createwhich are taken into account by smart contracts without arbitrariness of the official. In a horizontal management organization, a community can quickly come together and adopt the best and most promising idea.
• Another feature of the proposed technology is the absence of the need for offices, buildings, secretaries, endless meetings and even "business" meetings, which is typical of the modern bureaucratic system of public administration.

In the article, the author did not set the task to decompose the system and develop everything to the smallest detail. There is no place or time for this. However, if you take the idea, but put it on the traditional form of government, it will be, as it happened with the system of public chambers: now they are used to lobby the controlled or allied structures, extension of their people to warm places, where there is neither real work, nor responsibility.

Another advantage in the implementation of the idea of ​​public power is the fact that any protest can be translated in a constructive way - the problem is solved purely technologically and, including, by the initiators of the protest, as a public need.

By this we will be protected from crowd management technologiesthat has just been demonstrated by our enemies during the Kemerovo tragedy. It is not the case when public opinion, excited by a terrible tragedy, can be sent to the mainstream of social unrest by some prank from abroad. In addition, the president is not enough for personal intervention in all such situations. Manual control must be supported by modern technology. And they have such capabilities.

If the idea of ​​public authority is not accepted, but rejected, as harmful to the “elite”, then the Accounting Chamber should at least check the effectiveness of countless public chambers and councils on the criterion of public benefit / cost of maintenance.

It is important to note: the introduction of a public branch into the public administration system is not able to completely solve the problem of reforms in order to eliminate the prerequisites for the collapse of the country as a whole. This is the competence of the Head of State who can recruit a team for this purpose, free from the shortcomings of the existing “elite”. And the public authority can serve as the “fourth leg of the chair” of the state power as a whole - it is difficult to sit on a three-legged stool. In addition, the introduction of public authority is advisable to carry out evolutionarily, starting with pilot project in any region of Russia. Considering the “childhood diseases” revealed during the pilot project, after their elimination, it is possible to expand the scope of implementation to other prepared regions.

Reference. The main provisions of the theory of separation of powers include the following provisions:
• the separation of powers is enshrined in the constitution;
• the constitution establishes the presence in the state of the following branches of power: legislative, executive and judicial powers, which are formed as public authorities;
• all authorities are equal and autonomous, none of them can be eliminated by any other;
• no power can exercise the rights granted by the constitution to another power;
• The judiciary operates independently of political influence, judges enjoy the right to long tenure. The judiciary can declare a law null and void if it is contrary to the constitution.

There is a proposal to include in the Constitution of the Russian Federation the provision on public authority presented here..

Used sources:
1. Gospel of Matthew, ch. 12, art. 25.
2. Lukashev Anatoly Viktorovich. The principle of evolution, - Publishing house "Business Press", St. Petersburg, 2000. - With. 240. ISBN 5-8110-0024-3
3. Lukashev A.V., Ponidelko A.V., Anatomy of Democracy, - Business Press Publishing House, St. Petersburg, 2001, - p. 268. ISBN 5-8110-0043-X
4. What is an organization's DAO? https://coinnet.ru/chto-takoe-dao-organizatsii/
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  1. +4
    30 March 2018 15: 17
    They were divided by income levels of social groups, by degree of access to public goods, by clans attached to the budget sinecure, by belief
    And when and where was it otherwise?
    1. +1
      30 March 2018 15: 28
      Not too late, I hope to make a difference
    2. +4
      30 March 2018 15: 38
      This is understandable from the very beginning of the article. And then what? What is said? About the branch of power that should probably be under communism ... But not at this power ..
      Quote: Wend
      They were divided by income levels of social groups, by degree of access to public goods, by clans attached to the budget sinecure, by belief
      And when and where was it otherwise?
      1. dSK
        +6
        30 March 2018 16: 15
        The author began "for health", quoted the Gospel, and finished for ... Deeply conspiracy puppeteer masons are eager to rule the world.
        1. luk
          +1
          31 March 2018 17: 48
          Yes, they’ve already sent for you ...
    3. +1
      30 March 2018 16: 00
      As I understand it, the author is a supporter of "The White Horse Move HOLD TODAY" that is, Some kind of digital democracy. So they kind of quarreled, and for a year now no matter how
      1. +3
        30 March 2018 16: 43
        Quote: Chertt
        Some kind of digital

        This is demonic, this whole figure winked
        1. +6
          30 March 2018 16: 45
          Quote: You Vlad
          This is demonic, this whole figure

          To argue, Everything from the evil one, except for incense sticks with the smell of incense, .. And even that
          1. +3
            30 March 2018 16: 51
            Quote: Chertt
            Who argued

            Of course it looks beautiful and seductive, but No. We know them
        2. 0
          31 March 2018 15: 29
          Quote: You Vlad
          This is demonic, this whole figure

          I won’t talk much, I think you won’t regret the 30 minutes spent watching the video with Solovyov at the Federation Council. In the topic of the article.
      2. 0
        31 March 2018 00: 07
        Quote: Chertt
        As I understand it

        The author described an idealistic view of power .. to be precise, the shortest path to chaos ..
        Apply DAO technology to public administration. (C)
        Tao De Ching: Tao is not the path that can be traveled (named, described in the usual categories) ...
        There is nothing new under the moon ..
    4. +11
      30 March 2018 17: 45
      Quote: Wend
      And when and where was it otherwise?

      Is everything okay? And the question of the ratio of simply an abnormally high gap between the richest and the poorest does not bother you at all? Or do you intentionally make such generalizations in your urge to justify the current government?
      1. +3
        30 March 2018 18: 29
        Quote: Stas157
        Quote: Wend
        And when and where was it otherwise?

        Is everything okay? And the question of the ratio of simply an abnormally high gap between the richest and the poorest does not bother you at all? Or do you intentionally make such generalizations in your urge to justify the current government?

        My impulse is simple, do not look for what is not. Only dim-witted dreamers can think that a world of universal equality can be created. And even more so to change the world, in the ways proposed by the author is impossible. So this is just a swing of the situation, a check.
        1. +1
          April 3 2018 15: 51
          And you, it turns out, agree with everything? And do not do anything, look for ways to improve life in this country?
          1. 0
            April 3 2018 16: 09
            Quote: victor50
            And you, it turns out, agree with everything? And do not do anything, look for ways to improve life in this country?

            Not really, but I agree. And I don’t want blood from yet another revolution, and I don’t want traitors to be in power. Life improves through laws. And it is improving, not as fast as you want.
    5. +5
      30 March 2018 20: 11
      Well ... The province went to dance ...
      The author, finally, found a platform where you can lay out your imperishable ....
      laughing
  2. +6
    30 March 2018 15: 25
    The problems are already obvious, there is no need to invent anything, the point here is not the political structure, there is simply no one to solve them, there are no people who have the desire to powerfully. Well settled down and change something, why?
    1. +1
      30 March 2018 15: 33
      So why not push them to our Guarantor? They do not want so he can! In this country, if they don’t catch mice and don’t bother with them, there will be patriotic people in our country who will work for specific beliefs and goals, for example, to change everything for the better, they’re just inactive
      1. +14
        30 March 2018 15: 52
        Because he is their guarantor too, and they are the guarantor of himself. If he had not been their guarantor, they would never have given him power, how he would cease, would be taken away. For patriotic and active there is the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
        1. +1
          30 March 2018 16: 15
          It's wonderful then it turns out I want to make a mistake of course, the system devours itself? And in principle, you can not do anything wrong?
          1. +7
            30 March 2018 16: 20
            The system does not devour itself; it is just very stable. And she devours her citizens. Have you ever wondered why in the richest country, some of the poorest people?!?
            1. 0
              30 March 2018 16: 31
              I’ve thought about it and I’m not alone. Many people with whom I talked also do not understand why if we are so rich, why do we live poorly? This is probably the same eternal question Who is to blame and what to do?
              1. +4
                30 March 2018 21: 26
                This is probably the same eternal question Who is to blame and what to do?


                At the beginning of the twentieth century in Russia (and Germany-England much earlier) there were strikes, strikes, May Day events, trade unions ... It usually began with the struggle of hard workers for wages and working conditions. In simple terms - the class struggle.
                Now there are no classes (as we are now "taught") - which means there is no struggle. laughing By the way, antagonism is fatal (in principle !!!!) a contradiction. But we managed to "eliminate". Think about it - in Europe there is, they are on strike ... But we are all hurt. We love our ... wassat And you ask what to do. Yes, not to invent "public digital" power, but to unite in trade unions. On their own, on their own money to hire both the media and lawyers. Well, okay, revolution is revolution, and soon to the cemetery ... I don't give a damn.
                1. dSK
                  +1
                  30 March 2018 22: 25
                  Quote: dauria
                  Yes do not invent "public digital power and unite in unions
                  "Who pays - he orders the music." Who will be stored servers and who will be the "moderator" - that will be power over a "decentralized autonomous organization."
                2. +2
                  31 March 2018 07: 51
                  Quote: dauria
                  Now there are no classes (as we are now "taught") - which means there is no struggle. By the way, antagonism is an irreparable (in principle !!!!) contradiction. But we managed to "eliminate". Think about it - in Europe there is, they are on strike ... But we are all hurt. We love our ...


                  each ruler is straining his people to achieve their goals. it is logical.
                  in turn, the people must strain the ruler to achieve certain benefits. Today, most people mistakenly believe that the task of the government should be the welfare of the people. this is not true.
                  imagine a factory. superiors pursue the treatable goal of making money. Effective workers are needed to achieve the goal. To do this, create the conditions for them under which they will work well. there is no point in improving conditions if the workers are already plowing in such a way.
                  this is also logical.
                  workers should not be allowed to relax, the bosses also need to maintain the tone of the workers. this is the feedback.
                  if one of the sides loses it, the system falls into decay.
                  1. 0
                    April 1 2018 14: 14
                    To reduce everything to one person is a demagogic device as old as the world. Nevertheless, you are right in some ways. Without the participation of the people in government, that same notorious cook, power will never serve the interests of the people. What we actually see around the world.
      2. +13
        30 March 2018 16: 01
        Quote: RaptorF22n
        Do not catch mice then exit and do not bother with them

        Where are the examples of this for 18 years?
        Quote: RaptorF22n
        there are patriotic people in our country

        the authorities need not patriotic, but comfortable people.
        1. +1
          30 March 2018 16: 34
          If there are only convenient people, it’s not a fact that with them the business entrusted to them will not stagnate and simply will not lock up the whole thing
        2. +1
          30 March 2018 17: 20
          This quote has already been chewed 100 times. By the way, I would now have the same experience as Peter I took over. And he issued a similar order, so as not to be clever. Peter is right, if we are so smart, why we live so poorly (then we were talking about the fleet) Now, if we hadn’t issued that order, then we wouldn’t have a fleet, and we would have built smart people.
        3. -1
          30 March 2018 19: 02
          So is it all from Peter I that it all started? Not from Putin?
          It began to be with us, the king-father, "the people are not the same."
      3. 0
        31 March 2018 07: 09
        Yes, there is no queue of honest, willing to power!
        And power quickly spoils those who have fallen — such is nature.
  3. +7
    30 March 2018 15: 26
    Well, finally, at least one article where our problems are really described, at least there is some understanding of our problems without heart-rending screams about traitors to the 5th column and other nonsense of especially stubborn people, I really thought adequate people transferred UV relief
    1. +2
      30 March 2018 19: 03
      Nobody has described your problems yet.
      Suddenly, it may turn out that the new government will put a well-known subject on "your problems" much steeper.
      1. +2
        30 March 2018 23: 21
        Yours or ours? Do you live in some other Russia? Well then, sincerely glad for you
  4. +11
    30 March 2018 15: 39
    Our misfortune began already in the twenties of the last century, when the party nomenclature (otherwise it was called, not the essence) appropriated the right to decide everything and for everyone! Now the same thing in essence, only the names have changed.
    The people moved away from the governance of the country and their lives AT ALL! Like a cook there is nothing to do at the top!
    And what we have as a result - I’m not going to list about troubles, everyone knows!
    About the fundamental - WE do not have a real opportunity to influence \ control the decisions of the ruling elite, sales within the country. We do not have a real possibility of influence \ control over the authorities! We do not have a real opportunity to recall, remove the official sales in the lower branches of government, for the top sales is not worth talking!
    We are to blame ourselves! We are divided and if we are going to unite, then for the most part, they are controlled by the authorities.
    We are going to, at a time when a completely complete Krydets is advancing and scattering, as soon as we get another handout from a system that is capitalism, power merged into one whole, exploiters of capitalists and officials (elected and appointed).
    The phrase SERVICE OF THE PEOPLE causes laughter or folklore, such is our reality!
    1. +1
      30 March 2018 15: 44
      Your suggestions??? I completely agree that you described everything like that and is that you are just proposing a petition to our President for signature, say 5 6 million people or something else?
      1. +6
        30 March 2018 15: 58
        I propose to listen to Professor Popov, to take an interest in the Dockers' union in Leningrad, the events at the Ford plant, and everything else that is happening in the country these days and about which they write very little, speak and do not show at all. This is the struggle of the proletariat for the right to live NORMALLY in OUR days and in Our country.
        I propose to think, seek and do how we all become TOGETHER.
        so talk and .... then we'll see.
        1. +1
          30 March 2018 16: 17
          Quote: rocket757
          I suggest listening to Professor Popov,

          So what. I am Mikhail Vasilievich and listened and read. Smart, sensible man. And then what. We need a leader (s) who, on a synthesis of leftist teachings and modern technologies, offer new ideas, forms of development of society. Followed by the masses of people
          1. +1
            30 March 2018 19: 07
            A lot of people will follow you if you offer them something more than the current government gives. Not a state farm named after comrade-oligarch Grudinin, but what they think is real and doable.
            So far, the majority are satisfied with what the current government is doing (see election results).
            At the moment, the situation is such that you can not offer anything substantial. Only on the Internet among your like-minded people can you tell each other that the people will follow you.
            What for?
            1. +5
              30 March 2018 20: 19
              SHOW AT LEAST ONE SUGGESTION WHEN I BOUGHT LEADERS AND CALL FOR YOURSELF?
              Phrases, sentences and words - LET COMBINE, LET TOGETHER, WE ... at least once it was that I SUCH ALL THE BEAUTIFUL ALL TO TEACH, etc.
              Let's talk or blame each other?
              I admit, I want to convey my proposals to people FOR ALL OF US, God knows what, but you can start with this, there is a topic for debate and suggestions.
              Just to make it clear right away - for the role of DANCO ... this is not mine, is beyond my strength.
              For the role of POPA GAPON, it's just not mine, just SUCH A RACK must be known!
            2. +2
              30 March 2018 23: 28
              And what can you offer yourself? No seriously criticize and ask questions. It is easiest to propose a specific program of action to establish dialogue and trust between the people and the authorities is many times more difficult.
          2. +5
            30 March 2018 19: 25
            It is good when a DANKO man is found and leads the people to the light without sparing their heart and life! Glory to him for centuries, in songs, poems, and most importantly in the memory of the people!
            It can come up from ... a POP GAPON person comes from somewhere and he leads the people with his correct, beautiful speeches for ub ... everything ends badly!
            Because one gives light, freedom and life itself to others, and the other wants this all for himself!
            Why is it all, now everyone and everything is visible, you can find out ... you can’t conceal an awl in a bag! All public, as if the leaders are known and everything is clear about them.
            I propose to unite and look around. Let’s see who is famous or not, it’s worth talking with people! Leningrad, Moscow region, where else? Who knows what, about whom. We need to communicate, talk, and perhaps we will have a center of interest, attraction, it does not matter. It’s worth starting the movement, and there ... I won’t make any plans, however, there are not many options!
            1. +1
              30 March 2018 23: 32
              I agree that it’s just all essentially essential to make the first step
            2. +1
              31 March 2018 07: 31
              Do not count in the history of the leaders who promised the people paradise and led to the grave! And there will be more! There is no cure. Only common sense: ALL CANNOT be equally rich, even equal. And they should not, because everyone has different abilities and capabilities.
              1. +3
                31 March 2018 18: 33
                The main thing is equal rights, equal opportunities! Personal wealth, this is the result of the mind, the result of work, the result of talent!
                The opportunities are equal, the results are different, there will be envy and anger from ... will be, BUT this will not be supported by society, a trifle of which can be neglected!
                Have we seen this? Yes it was! There is experience.
                How did we lose that? Everyone knows that.
                Would you like to return this? for all you can’t say, I would like!
                How to return to this? There is no easy way at all ... quickly, and there are no prerequisites for that! Evolutionary - doubtful, but this is a relatively safe way!
                Problem of choice.
                1. +1
                  April 1 2018 09: 55
                  I do not see that rights and opportunities have changed dramatically. Although there have always been shifts. I see no reason for riots.
                  Junior students systematically express dissatisfaction with the composition of the courses they are studying and have to remind them of their place and role. There can be no equality.
                  1. +2
                    April 1 2018 10: 46
                    A simple comparison - the rights and opportunities of ANY person to the Land of Soviets, compare with what we have now?
                    I have NO COMPARISON!
                    The only thing for which I carefully observe is the actions of the Minister of Education Vasilyeva! There is hope for education in general! Tfu, tfu, tfu, schaub not jinx it!
                    I want Schaub. My boys got equal opportunities for further growth and education!
  5. +4
    30 March 2018 15: 52
    Until we remove the "fifth column" and the "agents of influence" entrenched at the very top of state power, any changes in politics or economy will remain only "wet dreams" ...
    1. +2
      30 March 2018 15: 58
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Until we remove the "fifth column" and the "agents of influence"

      then, it is necessary to determine these concepts, since the authorities and various populations of the people interpret them in their own way
      1. +2
        30 March 2018 16: 36
        Quote: Silvestr
        then, you need to decide on these concepts,

        Well it is simple. He who is not for us is against us (Luke 11.23). And whoever has a bigger gun decides
        1. +1
          30 March 2018 16: 48
          Some kind of simplified definition. If I would argue this way, it turns out that everyone who is against the legitimate right of our people to cop and small things under a smooth-bore license are agents of Western influence who disarm our people as they move their troops closer and closer to our country?
        2. +3
          30 March 2018 17: 43
          Quote: Chertt
          Well it is simple. He who is not for us is against us (Luke 11.23). And whoever has a bigger gun decides

          a controversial argument in such a case. This is reminiscent of the argument "Who is the greatest patriot", because no one will declare himself as a "agent" or "column"
          1. +2
            30 March 2018 17: 51
            Quote: Silvestr
            because no one will declare himself as a "agent" or "column"

            I mean, despite the deceitful words such as democracy, humanism, human rights, etc., the Faust rechte rules (fist right). So the one with the strength and determination decides to use this power. And he says who is the fifth column
        3. 0
          30 March 2018 19: 09

          Well it is simple. He who is not for us is against us (Luke 11.23). And whoever has a bigger gun decides

          This is exactly what the guardians propose to solve for a bright communist future.
          No kidding.
          1. +2
            30 March 2018 19: 17
            Quote: Mestny
            That's exactly what they propose to solve.

            So don't offereveryone does that. And while, fortunately or unfortunately, there are no other options, because only this, the working model
    2. +3
      30 March 2018 16: 07
      And how exactly? Well, let's face it, hold a referendum, put signatures, remove videos, put them on YouTube or go to an agreed meeting with the requirements to remove those whom we consider to be the 5th column or agents of influence? All these actions will lead to a positive result if the Guarantor is determined to rely on the support of the people so far, alas, from his side, such unfortunately no signals
      1. -1
        30 March 2018 19: 11
        All these actions will lead to exactly one thing - the arbitrariness of the crowd. Former Ukraine is a great example.
        And it’s right to set up this crowd in their interests to whom.
        1. +1
          30 March 2018 23: 41
          Offer your other better solution if you are so afraid of the crowd then head it so that there is no arbitrariness
    3. +5
      30 March 2018 17: 10
      I do not support Novalny, Sobchak and other dregs, but I never voted for Putin because he did not condemn, did not punish the people guilty of the collapse of the USSR and the subsequent plunder of Yeltsin's Russia. Putin on the day of victory did not say anything about Stalin who won the hardest war in the history of mankind against almost the whole of Europe. The same division into rich and poor, where salaries do not correspond to the work of a particular person, some in factories, other speculators (they are business) What kind of consolidation in society in FIG, all this is an occasion and a way to the collapse of the country
      1. +10
        30 March 2018 18: 08
        Quote: Yak28
        What is the consolidation of the FIG in society, all this is an occasion and a way to the collapse of the country

        About consolidation we are only shown in zombies! In fact, we saw what kind of consolidation was in Volokolamsk and at a rally in Kemerovo. Thousands of people roared, called for power and Putin to account! Yes, even here on the forum, in this reserve for Zaputinians, there was a survey of who voted and how, nevertheless 30% were for Grudinin (despite the fact that I had not yet voted, they banned for an innocuous expression that someone was carrying a portfolio for Sobchak) . So how then officially counted only 10% of Grudinin? I personally have never seen this anywhere? In any society, on any Internet site, and even here, nowhere is there such a correlation in Putin’s favor that was announced in the elections.
        Zyuganov and Grudinin announced postscript in the vote count, which is very similar to the truth.
        1. +2
          30 March 2018 19: 16
          Like you place in another reserve, not "Zaputinsky."
          After this post, it finally became clear that you are not many years old.
          you, a young man, certainly do not care, but for the rest - I personally participated in the work of the election commission directly at the polling station. Everything is fair, for Grudinin 11,5%
          But people like you are liars, they continue to bark about it. what they lied to.
          1. +2
            30 March 2018 22: 27
            Any candidate from the list, except for the last couple, is one simple idea - Do not change anything fundamentally! Power remains with the system Capitalist + Officials! The place of the man of labor, the CREATOR, somewhere down there, in a subordinate state!
            Applicants simply PREDICTED various options for a contract between the Authority and the Creator!
            A public contract is a very tricky thing, its form has been developed over the centuries and the leadership in its real content is held by the System, and the man of labor receives only what he pulled out of the hands of the system.
            If we do not stand for the scrapping of this system, then we cannot have fundamental disagreements, so there are small differences in the internal content.
            Question - what are we arguing about ?.
  6. +4
    30 March 2018 16: 05
    Quote: rocket757
    We do not have a real possibility of influence \ control over the authorities! We do not have a real opportunity to recall, remove the official sales in the lower branches of government, we should not speak for the top sales!

    therefore, we live like this: we are separate, on our own, power is by itself. We meet at elections or at holidays.
    Hence the universal indifference and, as a consequence, everything else
    1. 0
      30 March 2018 16: 24
      So why not prescribe such mechanisms? If not us, then at least our children and grandchildren will be able to resolve these issues in a legal framework
    2. 0
      30 March 2018 19: 17
      Russia is big, there are many places where there is much less indifference. And everything works, with the same power.
      How so?
      1. +1
        30 March 2018 22: 12
        Hi Sylvester soldier
        Let's try to figure it out
        When a global misfortune happens with authorities of different levels, we meet and if the authorities do what they should do well, we agree, we can praise it! If power is kicked off from citizens, we can’t actually do anything and ... then you can list a lot and different.
        Having enumerated everything that we know, scolding or praising the authorities, we will not find an explanation, instructions on what to do and how we can make our life better!
        I urge only one thing, at the moment, to understand what we want and look for ways to do this.
  7. +8
    30 March 2018 16: 26
    Anatoly, you did a good job. I'm afraid the truth is that most of your efforts will be wasted. I will explain why:
    In this article there will be no material about the robbers-oligarchs, thievish officials, thieves-bankers and paid "roofs" of the siloviki. There will be no corruption and incompetence, and even a betrayal of national interests, part of our glorious "elite." There will also be no pro, to put it mildly, flaws in the public administration system in all its branches. Too big and hard work.
    Already this phrase suggests that you are simply trying to attach the next “crutches” to the current comprador power, which, alas, will not help it in any way. Because with this quote you immediately crossed out the very possibility of responsibility of the authorities in general and its personalities in particular. It does not imply the existing liberal capitalism of the Russian spill, giving back part of its authority. The authorities can easily give responsibility, but alas!
    Everything that you wrote about can be implemented in a different paradigm, but not in the current one in Russia.
    I have two versions: either you, no matter how much effort, are trying to somehow legitimize, based on your visions of justice, the current Russian government, or you are from a cohort of manipulators who flock on this site in flocks, trying to bring confusion to the situation, so not very intellectual potentialities reading this site.
    1. luk
      +1
      30 March 2018 16: 54
      AUTHOR: Dear Andrey! Thank you for your competent opinion. As for your comments. First, it is impossible to confuse analytics and criticism in one article, especially in a research one. Gorbato will look. Secondly, criticism is contained in my other articles, look at least: Six roads for one Russia: https://topwar.ru/138575-po-sledam-poslevybornogo
      -shoka.html; What awaits Russia, degradation or a bright future: https://topwar.ru/138304-raznos-vtoroy-krovososy.
      html / Its moderator renamed "Bloodsuckers" from my name /; There are my other articles on this resource, for example: Homeland. Digitalization or death! Part two: https://topwar.ru/136662-rodina-cifrovizaciya-ili
      -smert-chast-vtoraya.html.
      1. +1
        30 March 2018 17: 09
        Anatoly, I enjoyed reading these articles. My claim is only one: you and authors of this kind are trying to divert the polemic from the question "" who is to blame, to the question "what to do!" However, the truth of life says that without an answer to the question of who is to blame, there is no answer to the question of what to do! Exaggerated of course, but you are a smart and practical person and understand me. In any case, thank you for the articles. There are very few people offering and understanding other opinions. Truth!
      2. 0
        30 March 2018 19: 21
        Dear author. (if it is over you personally).
        A lot of commentators divorced on the site, for whom only one thing is important, so that the author bones up power in all directions. In all other cases, they will be dissatisfied with what they read.
        My claim is only one: you and authors of this kind are trying to divert the polemic from the question "" who is to blame, to the question "what to do!"

        They are talking about the evil Putin, the thieves in power need, and you write to them about this.
        They are not interested.
        1. +2
          30 March 2018 22: 49
          And everyone is interested to know - Who is to blame and what to do? - And I would also like to know why when the country is feeling bad, then we, those below, also get really sweet? And remove those up and next to those who don’t get well below and don’t care, although he lives at the expense of those below.
          This is not envy, but a legitimate interest!
  8. +1
    30 March 2018 16: 42
    Quote: RaptorF22n
    Well, finally, at least one article where our problems are really described, at least there is some understanding of our problems without heart-rending screams about traitors to the 5th column and other nonsense of especially stubborn people, I really thought adequate people transferred UV relief

    I agree in the article everything is correctly painted. I agree with you that you’ve already got it: "especially stubborn" and such people are able to arrange maydaunas and everything
    1. luk
      0
      30 March 2018 16: 55
      The monarchist is right! Author
      1. +2
        30 March 2018 22: 58
        It is interesting that there is written so correct there that no one knew?
        Do you believe that this is the only true way to solve our problems? However, how little people need to know a little, Schaub all the problems and how to solve them, became clear.
        In principle, only the technological execution of old principles and ideas is new. New time, new technologies. Alternatively, it is worth trying, on a limited scale.
        As a comment .... but a lot of comments, the main thing - What, where, when?
  9. +1
    30 March 2018 16: 57
    Russia has always collapsed from within, because our society is always divided into slaves and gentlemen, rich and poor, white and red. The only time, during the Soviet era, society was united, but here the ruling elite sold and destroyed the country with tacit consent and somewhere support army and special services. The way to salvation from the inside is a good standard of living of the population, lack of unemployment, high salaries, and a general look at historical events where the perpetrators will be punished. But the most important thing is the ideology that unites the whole society, and Russia does not have it and is not foreseen
    1. +1
      30 March 2018 17: 20
      All this, of course, is true, but how to attract investment from abroad if we ourselves are dominated by the logic of prohibition? How to create jobs to pay high salaries if the business does not go to us? For example, the initiatives of the Kalashnikov Concern are good in themselves and there is more than a demand in the domestic market but the prohibitions come out again and those who consider the people wild drunks have no special “mentality” of the culture of arms, and so on, But where does it come from if prohibitors climb and yell about marginal people ? So, I presented a business that makes an offer to any of our arms companies saying they want to build factories in Russia and engage in the joint development of new promising types of weapons for the military and civilian arms market in Russia, and in response to them, the civilian arms market does not have all that is only a small part compared with the defense industry, therefore, producing and selling for a citizen is unprofitable
      1. +2
        30 March 2018 17: 54
        The state should monopolize the state from the situation that you described the only way out. All civilian weapons will never be used in the United States as an example. Look at the criminal news for a week. We have to deal with injuries without cause, plus in Russia full of unaccounted for, semi-illiterate, semi criminal rabble from the countries of the former USSR, their faces are shown daily in Moscow and not only criminal news, but imagine they all bought weapons legally.
        1. dSK
          +1
          30 March 2018 22: 54
          Quote: Yak28
          Imagine they all bought weapons legally.

          but tops gunsmiths will be in the "chocolate".
      2. 0
        April 7 2018 07: 53
        Regarding weapons culture - it really isn’t. See how many deadly conflicts began to arise when traumatic weapons became fashionable. The people, like cowboys in the Wild West, began to snatch and burn injuries with or without cause ....
    2. luk
      +1
      30 March 2018 18: 04
      Your words can be carved in stone. Author
      1. +3
        30 March 2018 23: 07
        Yes, yes, add on a stone - to enclose Moscow with a 100 meter wall and drown this hotbed of vice and ruin, our beloved Motherland! -
        What then? Yes, drown this "guide" on the destruction of a country that has not yet recovered from previous experiments!
  10. +3
    30 March 2018 17: 13
    The author has everything smoothly and correctly said, as they say: "" it was smooth on paper and forgot about the ravines ", and now with the" ravines ": a) who will form:" free, without elections, without appointment "president, neighbor" uncle Kolya "or the author? B):" if during the execution of a smart contract (who defines a "smart" or not a contract), one of the performers will execute it not properly, i.e. not in the public, but in personal or group interests, any citizen can initiate a review of the performer "sounds beautiful, but which of the officials will agree to this? And if the official" pinched "the tail of some group, they will immediately recall it
    It seems to me: you need a REAL OPPOSITION with the ADEQUATE LEADER M and then you do not need to "reinvent the wheel" in the form of some DAO
    1. luk
      0
      30 March 2018 18: 10
      The article has a phrase from the Indian fairy tale about “Kill the dragon ...” Any opposition eventually turns into a protoplasm as soon as it reaches the trough. Therefore, an objective factor is needed. An article about this. Author
    2. 0
      30 March 2018 19: 22
      It seems to me: you need a REAL OPPOSITION with the ADEQUATE LEADER M and then you do not need to "reinvent the wheel"

      So what's the matter?
      Please, where is this real leader?
      Or is Putin getting in the way again?
      1. +2
        30 March 2018 23: 13
        The author provides a lot of things, including a system of public control and performance evaluation .... up to dismissal with a conditional “wolf ticket”. This is no longer THREE in which "knocks" each on each. New times, new technologies, new opportunities and solutions!
        But as correctly noted above, it was smooth on paper, and there were many ravines ahead!
        Check, an experiment of a limited scale and ... it will be seen there.
  11. +4
    30 March 2018 19: 07
    The author is a very stubborn personality.

    With his previous sentences "to improve public administration in the interests of constructive socio-economic development" things went wrong. Though "These proposals were laid on the table to one official."

    Then because of his suggestions "strange events began. Public chambers and public councils at departments began to appear in all levels of government and territories, like mushrooms after the rain."

    That is, it seemed to swing the system, but it fluttered in the wrong direction that the author hoped when he put down the proposals "to the table to one official." Either the table on which he laid was crookedly set, or this person was not in the right mood to understand the author, or these unknown proposals were flawed, it is impossible to understand. At least shared with the people, others would know how this nasty one official misinterprets.
    And the face would have become famous, otherwise suddenly initiative people would rush forward with offers upstairs, and there it’s again one official the face is sitting, waiting ...

    But even a negative result requires analysis, so as not to think up in vain advice and suggestions for these some officials, and do not teach them how to properly dispose of what was conquered by him during the great criminal revolution.
    They can misunderstand.

    But perseverance and work will grind everything, and the author gave another recipe for how to overcome the shortcomings of the existing "elite", and at the same time issued an instruction to this elite, how "we will be protected from crowd control technologies, which has just been demonstrated by our enemies during the Kemerovo tragedy."
    This is valuable, this is the main thing that we lack, we will be protected from enemies, and in advance, even before the fires, we will be safe, and then even burn with a blue flame, it will not reach us.

    It remains only to find out who our enemies are during the Kemerovo tragedy, but here the author does not stoop to the smallest detail, keeps silent, and it’s true why, because Tuleyev, his deputy, Navkin’s husband, and the guarantor himself haven’t spoken more specifically about this. passed by...
    1. luk
      0
      30 March 2018 22: 45
      Thanks for the science. I will consider
    2. +3
      30 March 2018 23: 16
      The system will strive, will protect itself ... any author, one-tooth rationalizer!
    3. 0
      April 7 2018 07: 55
      There is one very good proverb "Make a fool pray to God, he will break his whole forehead." This is about public chambers in particular.
  12. 0
    30 March 2018 19: 55
    It’s all too beautiful, simple, the beginning of the article is even hooked. But the ideas described in the article are just as difficult to implement as a return to Communism, the trouble is that time has burst. The conversation between father and son about what is good and what is bad in the modern sense sounds something like this: Toyota (epl) is good and Lada (UAZ) is bad.
    1. luk
      +1
      30 March 2018 22: 46
      Are you looking for easy ways? Then to you in another room
      1. 0
        30 March 2018 22: 57
        Quote: luk
        Are you looking for easy ways? Then to you in another room

        I didn’t find something in the article on the legal mechanisms of power reform, a psychological basis that will make people think socially. Modern man is fixated on himself.
        1. luk
          +2
          30 March 2018 23: 17
          Who do you mean when you say "modern man is fixated on himself"? Fortunately, people are different. But it was necessary to try not to find "legal mechanisms" in the article. Read the last 2 lines
          1. 0
            31 March 2018 07: 51
            You know, your article was supposed to begin at the end, with those provisions that are written precisely at the end. It immediately became interesting. I repent.
            Quote: luk
            Who do you mean when you say "modern man is fixated on himself"? Fortunately, people are different.
            People are a product of the information field in which they live. Victims of advertising. At the same time, the main principle of mass consciousness is the stereotype: Buy and you will be happy.
            The principle of public authority was realized in the USSR. Where the worker’s voice is formally equal to the director’s. Naturally, with advanced information technologies, such a system would be much more efficient. However, given the openness of modern technology, they may be vulnerable from the outside. The problem is different. No Goal, no ideology acceptable to different layers of a divided society.
            1. luk
              +1
              31 March 2018 17: 40
              As for ideology - I agree completely. As for the "victims of advertising" - I’ll try to write an article "How not to become a victim of advertising"
    2. +3
      30 March 2018 23: 18
      No return where it is visible. Just an automated procedure for monitoring compliance with a social contract. Fiction, but not so much, technology is catching up!
      1. +1
        31 March 2018 09: 56
        Quote: rocket757
        Just an automated social contract enforcement procedure
        no, this is not the observance of a social contract, these are generally impersonal, digitized Councils. No one will allow the introduction of such a system. This is a revolution.
        1. +1
          31 March 2018 10: 32
          I don’t remember in what fantastic story the official wore a bomb locket around his neck. And everyone could express their displeasure with the actions of an official by clicking a button in a special institution ... wink

          In the version of the author of this article, if a citizen pressed a button and ditched a worthy person, then he will be scolded and the next time he will not be allowed to the button ... wink

          A little more serious. The author, and you try to mentally suggest the system you propose to impose, for example, on the management of a residential building. Twist, turn and write what you got. And then you all know the words, words. Then we will choose someone who is not sorry and we will offer to introduce this system. You look and it will work.
          1. luk
            +1
            31 March 2018 17: 41
            Thanks for the tip, but you're late. As part of the initiative group, we created the Council at home and took the Criminal Code for eggs. Took well
            1. +1
              April 1 2018 04: 50
              Advice at home in your case is that same power. Now you need to implement a feedback mechanism, i.e. empower other residents to evaluate the activities of the Council at home. The observation will be interesting ...

              Now a little fun. Here are two situations for you.
              1. Alcoholic Uncle Pasha from the third will express dissatisfaction with you as a member of the Council (you are surely a member of the Council, right?) Since you don’t understand the fucking thing in the pipes, and he worked as a plumber for forty years and you need to drive you out of the Council ... Intelligent, Heavier than the handle didn’t lift anything ... wink Your actions?
              2. Mary Bath of the sixteenth believes that the satellite dish Vasya from the tenth irradiates it and therefore requires that you, as a member of the Council, go and figure it out with Vasya. And three more pensioners support her. And Vasyan - kmc boxing. Mary Bath insists and requires decisive action from you ... Expresses indignation ... Will you go?
              wink
              1. luk
                0
                April 1 2018 09: 47
                Yes, you have fun. Only we do not have the advice of a kindergarten ...
                1. 0
                  April 2 2018 03: 55
                  This is not fun, this is life. And if exclusively wise, educated, socially responsible citizens live in your house, I can only envy ..
        2. +2
          31 March 2018 14: 45
          It seems like that! Just as a typical representative of the "automation", at least a little, a little animate her!
          Revolution? If not scientific and technical, then the idea of ​​this experiment varies dramatically. We will not argue, at the moment to understand at least what we want!
          1. +2
            31 March 2018 22: 26
            Quote: rocket757
            at the moment to understand at least what we want!

            our social system is a civil society for oil production. How much is left? I think we all want to know how many more years we will repair roads (bitumen), drive a car, have petrochemicals? we want to know what perspective we have, or at least our children, I agree, we will not argue
            1. +3
              31 March 2018 23: 39
              I’m looking for what may be interesting, useful. Many people ask what exactly needs to be done.
              This technique, a blank shot, for many reasons. There are similar techniques, but more developed. Anyway, they seemed to me premature or not relevant for our situation at this point in time.
              It’s a paradox, but more “ancient” methods approach our situation of norms, they have been tested by time and by life itself. So no, give everyone something new, they don’t want to rely on the experience of their ancestors. Why?
              1. +1
                April 1 2018 12: 18
                Quote: rocket757
                So no, give everyone something new, they don’t want to rely on the experience of their ancestors. Why?

                forgotten history, lazy became
                1. +3
                  April 1 2018 19: 39
                  Sales with technical specialist training is a problem! I start to teach boys with the theory of how "kerosene flows through the wires", the same Ohm's law is the basis of the basics for electrician \ electronics! Some parents do not understand this already! A generation of button presses and block / node changers, without the slightest interest in what's inside and why it doesn't work!
                  So with interest in our history! After all, there is something to learn there ... it is easier then to understand what and why they offer you in return.
                  I really hope that the new Minister of Education will return "soul" to our education, that graduates will not be a herd, do not understand what, but thinking people with a broad outlook!
                  1. +1
                    April 1 2018 19: 57
                    Quote: rocket757
                    Sales with technical specialist training is a problem!

                    The problem of education is in its demand. Example: in our country it is full of large-assembly assemblies of foreign cars .. Engineers are not needed there. In Yelabug, the crankcase is cast using imported equipment. and assembled from imported parts .. Russian there is only electricity, security and sweepers can be. At the output, such an engine is considered Russian, although in fact it is a tricky way to circumvent duties and save on electricity.
                    1. +2
                      April 1 2018 20: 34
                      Of my students who really studied, sought to gain knowledge in related professions, NOBODY was not needed. Yes, they have an advantage, youth, mobility, good learning ability, they find their place and decent pay for their work!
                      It’s also a sin for me to complain, I live near two large industrial cities and even in the worst of times I had the opportunity to choose where and how to work. But this is not for beautiful eyes, for knowledge and skills, a bonus!
                      Now young specialists come, with education! And here there are different options, it is normal to teach everyone, but half DO NOT WANT to learn and this is already a disaster! Which of them is the result?
                      It’s not possible to blame it on capitalism and other circumstances! This is a choice, with mustache itself!
  13. +3
    30 March 2018 20: 02
    Quote: MoJloT
    Because he is their guarantor too, and they are the guarantor of himself. If he had not been their guarantor, they would never have given him power, how he would cease, would be taken away. For patriotic and active there is the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

    Yes good hi
    1. +4
      30 March 2018 23: 23
      From the third reading I figured it out, the brains no longer work.
      The system rules, they are all the cogs of the gear of a single mechanism called Russian capitalism.
      We are somewhere below and are simply energy for them, which they, without any doubt, row for themselves!
      1. +1
        31 March 2018 10: 07
        Quote: rocket757
        The system rules, they are all the cogs of the gear of a single mechanism called Russian capitalism.

        Capitalism is a system of exploitation of man by man, which implies the exclusive right of ownership of the means of production of the capitalist. Capital refers to the totality of the means of production, energy infrastructure, a system for training qualified personnel, and raw materials.
        what you call Russian capitalism is not capitalism, but exploitation of the subsoil. not my thought, there is such a Parshev A. so he generally proposed introducing into the Constitution an article on the development of precisely Capitalism in Russia with a priority of developing precisely the means of production. I think very reasonably.
        1. +2
          31 March 2018 15: 07
          Misunderstanding - Russian, at the geographical location. The definition of the term Capitalism, you have listed, it is. It's like the Russian merchants - the essence is the same as everywhere else, buy - sell, make a profit!
          Our country, a capitalist state, capitalism of a comprador type, can and are differences, this is not fundamental.
          In essence, our state has nothing to argue about.
          The question is, what interests the majority? Who is to blame ... it's been a long time ago just a distraction, leading to the side, in short naf on this subject!
          What to do and how to do it. The author gives his vision. I think, as soon as the authorities figure out what it is, the issue will cease to be relevant! For me, the topic is not relevant at all, people are not machines, a simple logic system, a viable system, cannot be created .... so, another experiment!
          Civil society, the unity of people in the subject is replaced by a vote count, we can still like. all the same, as inanimate, impersonal.
          We are least of all controlled by logic in our everyday life, all this is also carried up the hierarchical ladder, of society management!
  14. BAI
    +1
    31 March 2018 09: 46
    Of course, I understand that "thesis and without chewing." But nonetheless:
    Ii. PRINCIPLES OF FORMATION AND FUNCTIONING OF PUBLIC AUTHORITY

    2.2. No choices.
    2.3. No appointments
    .

    How will people come into this power? What criteria and requirements should be met?
    1. 0
      31 March 2018 10: 26
      But no way. Who is softer, who is more shrill, who has a wagon, he will be ...
      1. +2
        31 March 2018 15: 28
        At the initial stage of the formation of the Country of Soviets, the system of nominating people to the system of power, the system of control and recall, worked .... the emerging bureaucracy, the party elite quickly realized that the wills in such a system were not ah! We have a result, also not ah, and if the central person of the state had not crushed all the levers of control for itself, the USSR did not exist for so long! The country's position in the world was not so strong.
    2. luk
      0
      31 March 2018 17: 44
      So, like your cat, looked in and went in anyone who cares. Reread please, everything is written.
      1. +1
        April 1 2018 07: 30
        You are probably a happy person. With your enormous life experience, keep the conviction that any citizen can and should have the right to make responsible and correct decisions. I work with people and you know what? Often such funny characters come across ... Sometimes it just gets creepy ...
        Sincerely.
        1. +2
          April 1 2018 11: 03
          I don’t understand who you turned to with sincere respect?
          So, I will answer. I am a happy man. There is FAITH, HOPE, LOVE!
          THERE ARE PUPILS and those who listen to my opinion .... and most importantly, a big bunch of young young women who I teach and watch for are always on the lookout, then, to know what they should be taught, what to learn in life was worthy!
          Always ready to talk. Yours faithfully!
          1. +1
            April 2 2018 03: 47
            Of course to you. Well, to the author of the article too ... wink
  15. 0
    31 March 2018 11: 07
    Take anthelmintic. Prescriptions for doctors Lee KuanYu and I.V. Stalin.
    1. +2
      31 March 2018 15: 10
      Why so deep and far?
      Pharmacy around the corner and packaging of Purgen. NOT?
  16. 0
    31 March 2018 11: 32
    Salvation only in the mass public executions of liberals and embezzlers
    1. +3
      31 March 2018 15: 08
      This is not salvation, it is entertainment of the most heinous part of the human community!
  17. +4
    31 March 2018 16: 19
    == The collapse of Russia from the inside. Where is the path to salvation? ==
    First of all, this is a regime change. further it is the nationalization of strategic and commodity companies (wine and vodka enterprises are obligatory). Investigations of corruption components without statute of limitations with real terms and real landings of bureaucratic thieves, regardless of their position. Further,...
    Oh, something I broke up ... For a moment I forgot which state I live in and that Putin is not abandoning his own. T.ch. You can consider my words as ordinary nonsense. The words of the author of the article, too ... Alas ...
    1. luk
      0
      31 March 2018 17: 46
      Yes, something you got lost. Forgot that revolution always devours its heroes? And then they are replaced by the same, if not worse, characters.
      1. 0
        April 1 2018 17: 37
        This is in the Mexican revolution. Russian-Soviet has a completely different story. And devouring occurs daily. It did not stop. Just think, someone will gobble up some heroes ... As if this is changing something.
        If nothing is done, then the capitalists will devour everyone: both "heroes" and cowards.
    2. 0
      April 1 2018 19: 58
      Quote: Shelest2000
      Oh, something I broke up ..

      +++ to you! you forgot what to do with multinationals
  18. +1
    31 March 2018 17: 30
    And the people are ready to knock on officials to officials, and public servants can be removed from public power. (The state / employee cannot afford private opinion in public at any level - incomplete official compliance, violation of ethics, etc., in short, the reason for dismissal).
    I present the statement: Bear leave, you didn’t manage and that he will leave?
    1. luk
      0
      31 March 2018 17: 47
      Will leave, definitely, will leave!
  19. +1
    31 March 2018 17: 45
    Do you write a lot on the Internet? They will come for you! - from the article below.
    And end social power.
  20. +1
    31 March 2018 21: 52
    Hello everybody! I'm a newbie (not to be confused with British insanity). An interesting site. I remember in our army, there was a Foreign Military Review in the library, I re-read and sucked a lot. Since then, I’m interested ... That article is utopian, of which There was a great deal of such declarative style. In my opinion, the state exercises control over society and personality, and nothing more. Nobody violates anything. Well, as soon as the state immediately intervenes through its functionaries (Ministry of Internal Affairs, Armed Forces, FSB and so on) And the people are simply free within the framework of the Criminal Code and are engaged in EVERYTHING, which is not forbidden. Here and the whole social system ... Do not forget that the People are Power, and not the state ... It is an instrument for the exercise of the Power of the People ...
    1. +4
      31 March 2018 22: 43
      In the physiological sense, we are all human, i.e. the people from whom the people are formed.
      What separates us? Yes, the same social status. The state is a function created to ensure the normal functioning of the human community, the people living in a particular territory ..... in short, such a long maxim expressing only one thing - society / state is divided into two main, by importance, groups.
      One small group has real power, respectively, the ability to rake everything for themselves. A clear hierarchy and official cohesion in protecting the interests of their group.
      Another group has a very difficult life and the lack of real organization capabilities, rules / laws of its existence. First of all, because there is no skill \ desire \ ability to self-organize to influence a cohesive group of MANAGEMENT.
      Nothing new. How can an “oppressed” group seize the “reins” of rule over their lives? Recipes are known - revolution, civil society and control over the top, professional, territorial associations, etc.
      There is a recipe, but there are no real "cooks"!
      I'm looking, and you?
  21. +1
    April 1 2018 11: 18
    Quote: Wend
    They were divided by income levels of social groups, by degree of access to public goods, by clans attached to the budget sinecure, by belief
    And when and where was it otherwise?

    In the Soviet Union it was different!
    Suppose there were also divisions in terms of positions and differences in the salaries of technicals and the director of the plant and in proximity to the tops, but there weren’t so huge differences in people's incomes and in their standard of living, as it is now, when Oligarchic filth he doesn’t know whether to buy him a third yacht, and the worker receiving 15-20 thousand does not know how to feed his family with this money and raise children!
    And therefore, the hatred of the people for the oligans in the country is now at the highest level, and if the new year 1917 is blazing in the country (and the situation regarding the hatred of the common people for the oligarchs is now close to that of October), then oligarchs will not find it!
    We have a country of gardeners and gardeners ... Everyone has a pitchfork...
    1. +4
      April 1 2018 11: 34
      Quote: Brigadier
      We have a country of gardeners and gardeners ..

      ... as well as hunters and fishers ...
      Quote: Brigadier
      ... Everyone has a pitchfork ...

      ... and a rake? There is a desire to walk the rake again?

      Quote: Nikolai Pomyalovsky. Essays on Bursa
      ... Pototsky, conjugate to me the "Mother of God."
      - I am the virgin, you are the virgin, he is the virgin, we are the virgin, you are the virgin, they are the virgin.
      - Effectively. Spin the cudgel.
      - I'm a club ...
      - Exactly...

      Sorry, inspired request
  22. +3
    April 1 2018 17: 32
    Useless set of letters. The Communists gave up power without a fight, simply changing the sign to the capitalists. But those same + new capitalists without a fight, will not give up power by persuasion on the Internet. For no reason. We need completely different arguments. Since they will not succeed in returning the Communists, and they don’t need it. To give mansions for children's cottages and abandon world resorts, to share with the population they despise, they are completely reluctant. They will bite to the last. From this we must proceed ...
  23. +1
    April 1 2018 19: 52
    an active citizen is registered on a resource of the appropriate profile and level, certifies his professional competence and receives the corresponding smart contract
    How does it certify and on what basis does it receive?
    the author wrote in a series of articles “Homeland! Digitalization or death ”,“ Russia had two troubles, but they came up with a third ”
    I read this nonsense ... And I'm not alone.
  24. +3
    April 2 2018 09: 43
    The “tuning” of the social structure proposed in the article is a stillborn child, of course. But I agree with the author’s approach - you need to think through options for how to make this life better, and not cry that everything is bad. Suppose social stratification reaches its climax, a revolutionary situation will arise. The people will follow those leaders who "for the people", will overthrow the existing government ... and then what? If those "popular" leaders do not have a clear program of action for coming to power, then there will be chaos and fratricidal civil war. Despite all the "good intentions." And vice versa, if these leaders firmly know their plan of action, then perhaps a revolution will not be needed.
    1. +3
      April 2 2018 12: 13
      The principle itself is important, the idea .... albeit an electronic version, but kind of advice, participation / involvement of the mass of people in the management system.
      At the expense of the possibility of applying at the moment and in our situation .... let them try, it’s still better than not doing anything at all!
      1. +2
        April 3 2018 09: 33
        The involvement of the masses in the management system is an arduous task, because the masses, in the vast majority, do not give a damn about politics. Therefore, just providing the opportunity to participate in management is not enough, you need to think through a feedback system so that people themselves would like to participate. It is massive, and not two or three people who have nothing more to do.
        By the way, there was an article recently at the VO that in some countries the appearance at the polls is a duty, and not just a right. It seems to me that there is something to it.
        1. +2
          April 3 2018 10: 33
          Exactly, the task is daunting, to involve the masses in whatever the public is important. The meeting of residents, and any other event to collect, at oooo!
          It is not for nothing that our forefathers of the revolutionaries were engaged in the preparation and training of the working masses! Preparing a driving force, t.s. With education we have this way, it is, but there is no movement!
          The author’s idea is to attract active masses with the help of new technologies, this is possible, new technologies and a lot of people using them are a factor that can help promote the idea to some extent! Just wondering how it goes! It’s necessary to excite people all early, the main rational explanation is to give reasonable goals, otherwise the excited mass can do something indecent!
  25. 0
    April 3 2018 11: 58
    A plus. But I do not share the position of the author. Sooner or later, public authority also became bureaucratic. Other measures are needed.
    1. Two branches of government are elective, and the third, judicial branch, for some reason appointed by the executive branch, is your mutual responsibility. Judges of all levels should be elected by direct vote.
    2. It is necessary to distinguish between income: up to 20 thousand rubles. - benefits; over 20 to 200 thousand rubles - salary; over 200 thousand rubles. there can only be investment income. This will help eradicate veiled corruption in the form of high salaries, which are always given to "their own". How the cost of labor (wages) is determined, the old man Marx described in detail, and this caused dissatisfaction of the current crooks from the economy.
    3. Introduce into the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation a norm aggravating a crime if it is committed by a person vested with power (heads, deputies, heads of departments and divisions, up to rank-and-file employees of the municipal and state levels, judges, employees of law enforcement agencies, prosecutors, SK, etc. .). The untouchables should not remain.
    4. The authorities and the opposition should equally divide the posts in the law enforcement, judicial and controlling departments (the account chamber should be headed by an opposition representative), then it will not be possible to freely dispose of budgetary funds.
    Here is something similar is very necessary in the device of the Russian government.
    1. +1
      April 3 2018 14: 53
      Those in power do not then grab everything for themselves, so as to burden themselves with some sort of obligations!
      They protect and will continue to protect themselves from any collisions from below!
      Those. from below not only wishes are needed, but a “push” is powerful! And what will they call it?
      In any case, without the unification of all the working masses, nothing substantial can happen.
      What to do? Unite

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