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Submarines of the 677 project will join the Northern Fleet

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Earlier, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation planned to send a Project 677 diesel-electric submarine to the Black Sea, but then it came to the conclusion that such complex and multi-functional submarines with a long range were not needed in this region, so they will be part of the Northern fleetwrites the newspaper News.




“Two diesel-electric submarines of the 677 Lada project - St. Petersburg and Kronstadt - will be included in the 161 Brigade of the submarines of the Northern Fleet. Already this year, St. Petersburg will take part in experimental exercises, ”the publication was told at the Main Command of the Navy.

The 677 project was created as the first domestic submarine with an anaerobic (air independent) power plant (EI). This should relieve the submarine from the need to periodically float to recharge the batteries. But by the time the "St. Petersburg" was built, the EU did not work. Therefore, the ship was equipped with a conventional engine, turning it into a kind of stand for testing new weapon systems, navigation and target designation. It is assumed that a full-fledged power plant will be put on Kronstadt, which is currently in the process of completion.

According to the chairman of the Petersburg club of submariners and veterans of the Navy, Captain First Rank Igor Kurdin, the Northern Fleet diesel-electric submarines "traditionally served not only in the Barents Sea, where they covered strategic missile carriers," they also worked in the Mediterranean.

Diesel-electric boats can operate not only in coastal waters, but also in the ocean and in the Mediterranean. In Soviet times, there was always a whole brigade from the 4 squadron of the SF. She controlled the actions of the American 6 fleet. With the advent of modern caliber submarines in their arsenal, their combat capabilities have increased significantly. Syria’s experience has shown that such submarines are capable of effectively fighting ground targets,
told the Kurdin newspaper.
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  1. Greg Miller
    Greg Miller 29 March 2018 12: 00
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    It is necessary to strengthen the Black Sea grouping in the first place ...
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 29 March 2018 12: 05
      +8
      There are already quite enough Varshavianok.
    2. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 29 March 2018 12: 07
      +11
      Quote: Greg Miller
      It is necessary to strengthen the Black Sea grouping in the first place ...

      You need to strengthen all the groups! The fleet generally needs to be dealt with. The article most likely refers to the fact that in the Northern Fleet there is a clear imbalance in favor of strategists, in contrast to multi-purpose ones. To build ash-trees is long and expensive, that's why this decision was made!
      The only question is the “luckiness” of the Lada project itself! hi
      1. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 29 March 2018 12: 12
        +5
        "Ash", and all nuclear powered ships are good for the Northern and Pacific fleets, and diesel boats are enough for the Baltic and Black Sea Fleet, but dozens of them are needed ... How can this be achieved in conditions of constantly decreasing defense spending, to show cartoons to Americans?
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 29 March 2018 12: 21
          +6
          Diesel boats, especially those with an anaerobic installation, can also perform ocean tasks very well! The question is when will this installation be finally made!
          I repeat - an interim decision, two Ashes - not enough to cover strategists!
          1. Greg Miller
            Greg Miller 29 March 2018 12: 27
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            The primary task of Ashenes is to strike Kyrgyz Republic against ground targets ... Escorting strategists is secondary ...
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 29 March 2018 12: 42
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              Quote: Greg Miller
              The primary task of Ashenes is to strike Kyrgyz Republic against ground targets ... Escorting strategists is secondary ...

              You are mistaken! The main task of the Ashenes is to counteract aircraft carrier groups and fight against enemy nuclear submarines! Hence the arsenal of weapons. Striking ground targets is not even secondary ....
          2. Greg Miller
            Greg Miller 29 March 2018 12: 30
            +1
            No other boats, even anaerobic ones, can replace nuclear-powered ships. Autonomy is not the same and the ammunition is insufficient to perform the tasks of nuclear submarines ....
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 29 March 2018 15: 00
              +1
              In most cases (with the exception of trips to the US coast) anaerobic boats completely replace atomic boats. In addition, there are places where it is necessary to solve problems, and the nuclear submarines there cannot do this. Baltic, for example.
              I thought 677 would go to the KBF, but apparently there is no other possibility of amplification on the SF except for sending 677. hi
          3. Sergey985
            Sergey985 29 March 2018 12: 44
            +5
            Who would risk sending diesel under ice?
            1. mvg
              mvg 29 March 2018 14: 31
              +1
              Right comment.
            2. Alex777
              Alex777 29 March 2018 15: 03
              +1
              What should they do there? Strategists if only to search?
      2. Chertt
        Chertt 29 March 2018 12: 18
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        Quote: Hunter 2
        The only question is the “luckiness” of the Lada project itself!

        Yes, there is not any doubt there. This project has already been closed and opened so many times that the question is “is it simply not successful and not thought out, or is it full 3.14”
      3. Sergey985
        Sergey985 29 March 2018 12: 42
        +1
        Expensive and long. Only there are no other options. And this is not a "Decision", but a temporary measure from hopelessness.
  2. Sergey985
    Sergey985 29 March 2018 12: 04
    +2
    The sad news, to be honest. We are trying to fill a hole with a lack of apl, diesel engines.
  3. cats
    cats 29 March 2018 12: 04
    +5
    told the Kurdin newspaper.

    It’s dangerous with that name on VO ..
    Without understanding, they can also swear .. lol
  4. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 29 March 2018 12: 24
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    It is put into operation a little, it takes a long time to build, but for export, it’s different, "forgive those children go to the next exhibit," they are ready to give all the last.
    1. Sergey985
      Sergey985 29 March 2018 12: 53
      +1
      Lack of money. Due to the export of the shipyard, they have a load. And then there will be no one to build ships.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 29 March 2018 13: 22
      +2
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      It is put into operation a little, it takes a long time to build, but for export,

      Admiralteys are building quickly going for export "Varshavyanka" 636.3 for the Navy. The record so far is in Krasnodar: laid on 20.02.2014/25.04.2015/05.11.2015, launched on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, transferred to the Navy on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX.
      1. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 30 March 2018 04: 51
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        Who does not want to feed and equip their armed forces, but feeds strangers, pays with his blood and the lives of his fighters! This is an axiom! When it comes, if only it were not too late. In the 70th SSBN, 4 pieces per year were put into operation, both at Sevmash and in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, plus Krasnoe Sormovo contributed to diesels and multipurpose ones. So, the Americans are now far away with a pair of Virgins a year to that pace.
  5. 89625588851
    89625588851 29 March 2018 12: 35
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    Neither were they planning to install VNEU at Kronstadt or at Great Luke !!! Where infa ???
  6. NEXUS
    NEXUS 29 March 2018 12: 57
    +1
    «Two diesel-electric submarines of project 677 "Lada" - “St. Petersburg” and “Kronstadt” - will be included in the 161st brigade of the Northern Fleet submarines. Already this year, St. Petersburg will take part in experimental exercises, ”they told the publication in the Navy Commander.
    That is DEPL ... and right there it says ...
    Project 677 was created as the first domestic submarine with an anaerobic (non-volatile) power plant (EU)

    While there is no VNEU ... and therefore, while the submarine of the Lada project is essentially the same Varshavyanka.
  7. Turgon
    Turgon 29 March 2018 13: 16
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    It was smooth on paper and forgot about the ravines.
  8. Seaflame
    Seaflame 29 March 2018 15: 39
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    Even at least a triple of Varshavyanka at the Black Sea Fleet. Having a base in Tartus, it is necessary to increase the presence of the Navy in the Mediterranean Sea.
  9. Old26
    Old26 29 March 2018 19: 02
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    Quote: Seaflame
    Even at least a triple of Varshavyanka at the Black Sea Fleet. Having a base in Tartus, it is necessary to increase the presence of the Navy in the Mediterranean Sea.

    Base? Do not tell my slippers. MTO point with a very limited water area .... Assad father forbade us to build a base. Offended by a remark from Moscow