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Baltic Fleet Russia in a few months did something that Poland lacked three years

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On March 21, naval exercises took place in the Baltic Sea, during which a unit of unmanned aerial vehicles from the Kaliningrad region worked out actions to monitor and correct ship artillery fire. The teachings did not go unnoticed in neighboring Poland, where the online edition Defence24.plspecializing in defense matters devoted a whole lot of material to this event.


Baltic Fleet Russia in a few months did something that Poland lacked three years


The publication writes:
- The Russian Ministry of Defense announced the start of training to adjust the fire of naval artillery and coastal defense systems using unmanned aerial vehicles. This means that the Russians are already technically ready to use their anti-ship missiles of the Bal and Bastion coastal defense systems in the maximum range - up to 500 kilometers. In Russia, in a few months, what was done in Poland for three years was not done.


According to the portal, a unit of “Outpost” type drones, which are the Russian version of the Israeli drone IAI Searcher Mk II, took part in the exercises. In accordance with the information of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, “the transfer of unmanned aerial vehicles from one of the airports to a designated area was tested in order to monitor the situation at the landfill and track the detected targets.” A training flight was also conducted, during which the Outpost drone, being at an altitude of several thousand meters, transmitted to the command post information about the frigate Yaroslav the Wise (11540 project with a total weight of 4350 tons) produced by shooting at a naval shield located at a distance of several kilometers



The article suggests that the Russians probably have not yet launched an automated system for transferring data from UAVs to their ships, which means that it is not yet possible to talk about working in real time, but only about transmitting data on the results of firing over the radio.

“However, this does not mean that the Russian navy is not ready for this.” Moreover, most likely, we are not talking at all, only of interaction with ships that have a small chance of approaching the target so that it is within the reach of the guns. In the case of the frigate “Yaroslav the Wise” armed with one AK-100 cannon with a caliber of 100 mm, this is just “only” 21 km. It is more likely that the Russians are currently creating a targeting system for anti-ship missiles - and not only for those installed on floating craft, but primarily for missiles launched from coastal missile systems.




The portal reminds about the transfer to the Kaliningrad region at the end of last year of the “Ball” and “Bastion” systems:
- Now the Russians are completing the creation of a complex for the destruction of surface targets, getting the opportunity to attack targets at maximum distances, according to the ammunition used. In the case of X-35 anti-ship missiles “Uran”, the speed of the 0,85 system of Ball moves is from 120 to 260 km, and the supersonic P-800 “Onyx” missile (speed 2,6 mach) is used in the Bastion system can already attack targets even at distances greater than 500 kilometers.


According to the publication, for Poland, this means that naval weapons systems located in the Kaliningrad region will soon be able to hit all ships in Polish ports, as well as those that would like to leave them or enter them.

According to the author of the article, the importance of such a task for the Russian command is evidenced by the fact that it sent the Forpost, the largest and most modern unmanned aerial vehicle available to the Kaliningrad region. It has parameters suitable for this type of operation (flight duration - 15-18 hours, altitude ceiling - 7010 m), as well as the ability to take with it the payload.



- Russians have already been praised that their drone currently has interchangeable target modules containing, in particular, an infrared camera, a color video camera on a rotating platform with a gyroscope-stabilized, as well as equipment for relaying real-time information from onboard systems.


Further, the publication draws attention to the fact that the Russians have posted a photo in which it is clearly visible that the device is serviced by three operators who have three separate control posts: the right one is occupied by the onboard systems operator (including, above all, the cameras), the middle position probably occupies the commander, and the left post is intended for the pilot UAV.



The author of the material concludes:
- The start of drone drills for fire correction and targeting for naval weapons systems means that the Russian coastal missile systems in the Kaliningrad region are not only ready for propaganda purposes, but also for real combat, with full use of capabilities available anti-ship missiles of the appropriate range.


He notes that the readiness to perform such tasks will be achieved very quickly, because the Russians already have a lot of experience in such events, gained during real combat operations.

- It is known, for example, that the Forpost drones were used in eastern Ukraine and five such UAVs were officially lost there (with numbers 905, 915, 916, 920 and 923). At least one Outpost was also shot down by Islamists in Syria, which indicates that there the Russians used this method of obtaining information.


The material states that the approach of the command of the Russian Baltic fleet completely different from the approach of the Polish armed forces, where the naval strike missiles NSM (Naval Strike Missile - anti-ship missile developed by the Norwegian company Kongsberg Defense & Aerospace, maximum range 5 km - approx.), which were adopted about 185 years ago, can still hit surface targets only within the radar horizon, which means that the maximum is located about 30-40 km from the coast. Thus, there are very small chances to potentially strike, for example, surface units located at the naval base in Baltiysk.

The publication summarizes:
“This means that the Polish NSM anti-ship missiles can be used only in one-fifth of their capabilities in range, and judging by how the plans for technical modernization of the Polish armed forces are being implemented, nothing will change in the near future. Moreover, no one even has such an intention, since the Naval Missile Squad (a unit armed with NSM missiles. - Note by the author) does not yet plan to introduce its own unmanned systems, considering that, in accordance with the rules, the order will come from the high command. So far, nothing indicates that this will happen.


The article provoked a lively discussion in the comments, where the majority of readers began to sharply criticize the activities of their Ministry of Defense and the defense policy of the Polish authorities as a whole. Here are examples of some comments:

Davien
“I believe that Putin surprised us again: were the Americans informed about this?”

Yaro
- In Russia, in a few months, what was done in Poland for three years was not done. This is just the scale of the modernization of troops in the Russian Federation. Neither subtract nor add.

Tom
- I have an official question: why is this happening, where is this impotence going on for many, many years? What is it, ordinary stupidity combined with incompetence or conscious sabotage?

Zablokowanyumysl
- I answer. Many bureaucrats, stupid instructions, overpaying, the absence of a particular responsible person blurs responsibility. As in civilian life. If we have a million officials, and even if every hundredth comes up with some nonsense, then we have what we have. Everyone wants to show himself. Everything is done to the public.

Zajac
- This is and was treason.

Observer
- If such drones can be shot down in Ukraine, and, apparently, in Syria too, then why shouldn't it be exactly the same in Poland? We have a newly created air defense, and if the ICBS (air defense control system) manages the entire defense system, then we must destroy targets of this type quite effectively. (...)

Victor
- Our newly created air defense does not exist. If all goes well, in a couple of years there will be several installations of Patriot missiles. The problem is that the rocket of this system is more expensive than the drone that it can shoot down. This is a bad deal. And there are no other means reaching the 7 ceiling, and probably in the near future. Do not pay attention to the archaic S-125, because it is not known whether this museum rocket can start.

Zajac
- Maybe because Poland is not as strong and effective as Syria or Ukraine? I would also add: the Czech Republic, Romania and Zimbabwe.

Mroczysław
- God forbid that we ever have, although the 1 / 2 has the same effective army and developed defense industry as Russia, and the 1 / 4 has the same wise ministry of defense.

Ramondisan
“Unfortunately, it seems that if something happens, our politicians use the already proven doctrine: we run quickly abroad, and those that remain will be protected by anything ...”

Chehłacz
- I see here the insight of our commanders. The Russians, having introduced such systems, completely abandoned the ships in our Navy, so the whole Russian system was useless. (A hint that the Polish Navy is in a very poor condition and the purchase of new ships is not planned. - Note bus.)

Infernoav
“Hmm, you forgot that this system could also attack gas tankers, which in the event of war would deprive us of gas and oil reserves.” Our Defense Ministry, moreover, looks short-sighted and is too old and incompetent to understand what the future war will look like. Today, the range and accuracy of fire, armor and mobility are important, but, above all, knowledge of the situation and disabling enemy intelligence. If you see someone, but he is not there, then you can shoot him even with the help of “Carnations” or “Dana” (SAU. - Note of the author), “Langusts” (volley fire system. - Note of the author.) . If he sees you, and you don’t see him, then you, as Ukrainians, lose entire mechanized battalions covered with precise carpet-hit artillery.

Yaro
- I will write this: some bureaucratic / military caste brings it to the point that, at least for 10 years, the Polish Army rolls under the tail of a dog. Russian for three months doing what we can not do in 5 years. How do Russians differ from the Poles? We have more money for the army, but we are not more stupid than them, so what's the catch? They need the 3 of the month to introduce the technology, and we lack 3 for years. So maybe we can send 98% MO to retire (let them go far away from Poland), let's hire young people who will not be afraid to make difficult decisions, and people like AM, MB (meaning Antony Matserevich and Mariusz Blaščák, former and current heads of MO. - Approx. Author.) Finish their adventure with the army, because they harm it more than help.

It should be noted that during the Baltic Fleet exercises, according to official information of the Russian Ministry of Defense, UAVs were used only to adjust the fire of the Yaroslav the Wise patrol ship at a distance of several kilometers. Nevertheless, it can be stated: the very fact of the use of drones by the Russian Navy at the sea range seriously concerned the Polish side. Even the purely theoretical possibility of using UAVs for targeting the Ball and Bastion missiles caused alarm in neighboring Poland, where a publication specializing in defense matters recognized the complete defenselessness of the Polish armed forces against the use of such weapons.
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  1. andr327
    andr327 29 March 2018 05: 36
    +18
    O great Poland! How poor sausages you: From the "empire from sea to sea" to "everything is lost."
    What the almighty drone does.
    But the second question, more mundane: why the operator has old windows. Where is our import substitution? and where is the privacy mode for that kind of control points?
    1. Vard
      Vard 29 March 2018 06: 14
      +17
      Yeah ... survived ... Poland compares us with us ...
      1. jonht
        jonht 29 March 2018 07: 58
        +8
        So on Masha and manners! Well they are "great Poland", ce naupe geyropov ... wassat
        In fact, they actually only compared the Kaliningrad region with themselves and they didn’t see our whole country, and this is close to them.
        1. Greg Miller
          Greg Miller 29 March 2018 12: 15
          +5
          And how did Russia surprise Poland with Israeli reconnaissance UAVs? But is there a guarantee that, if something happens, they will not be blocked on the ground via satellite?
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 29 March 2018 12: 50
            +16
            Quote: Greg Miller
            ... And why did Russia surprise Poland with Israeli reconnaissance UAVs? But is there a guarantee that in which case they will not be blocked on the ground via satellite? ...

            This is where the Israelis make us UAVs?
            You probably mixed up the Forpost licensed assembly in Yekaterinburg under a contract from 2009. So we have been producing our products for a long time. What are you talking about?
            1. ul_vitalii
              ul_vitalii 29 March 2018 19: 04
              +8
              They talk about high matters as worthwhile. smile
              1. Andrey K
                Andrey K 29 March 2018 19: 17
                +6
                Quote: ul_vitalii
                ... They talk about high matters as worthwhile. smile...

                The most important thing is that after reasoning the booty sits down in a puddle - at least read the texture, for the future laughing
      2. master2
        master2 29 March 2018 23: 36
        0
        That's right, Poland has long gone ahead, and is still equal.
    2. Dimontius
      Dimontius 29 March 2018 19: 44
      +5
      How do Russians differ from Poles? They have more money for the army, but we are not dumber than them
      ahahaha, psheks are not dumber than us, this is a joke wassat
  2. Dashing
    Dashing 29 March 2018 08: 29
    +22
    Sometimes, my father, who liberated Warsaw, who had fought all over Poland, sang with a smile: “Ische Polish did not perish,” and then, winking, invariably added: “But we really drew it!” How accurate and modern.
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 29 March 2018 15: 52
      +11
      So in the Ukrainian anthem, the same theme is “Ukraine is not yet safe. But it’s close to kints”
      1. Dashing
        Dashing 29 March 2018 18: 46
        +3
        You see, independent people are with a European darling.
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 March 2018 08: 33
    +4
    The heirs of Pilsudski were out of breath. Spring, however. bully
    1. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 29 March 2018 14: 54
      +4
      Don't be very happy, we and UAVs have the same failure. The spans of yesterday’s copied, as well as domestic “thin” ones according to performance characteristics show the same failure, because these actions are far from full integration and work in real time, which means that we are not far from the Polish armed forces. As we don’t have drone UAVs, we don’t, and Turkey has been building them for several years now ...
  4. Redfox3k
    Redfox3k 29 March 2018 09: 54
    +10
    And none of the Polish commentators did not think: “why should we resist with Russia at all, can we be better friends, eh?”
    1. Cetron
      Cetron 29 March 2018 15: 32
      +8
      This is a review of the same portal as VO, only Polish. There are also few friendly laughing
    2. meandr51
      meandr51 29 March 2018 20: 11
      +8
      No, let’s better fight. As a friend, she is much more dangerous.
    3. Dormidont
      Dormidont 29 March 2018 20: 17
      +3
      The whole sacred meaning of the existence of Poland was to spoil Russia
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 30 March 2018 00: 28
        +3
        Quote: Dormidont
        The whole sacred meaning of the existence of Poland was to spoil Russia

        Excuse me, my friend: this place has long been reliably occupied by an ENGLISH woman! Read the classics: "An Englishwoman shits" .. (c) - attributed to A.V. Suvorov.
  5. Arikkhab
    Arikkhab 29 March 2018 10: 36
    +6
    “It is known, for example, that the Outpost drones were used in eastern Ukraine and five such UAVs were officially lost there (with numbers 905, 915, 916, 920 and 923). At least one Outpost was also shot down by Islamists in Syria "....
    Source (information) in the studio! 5 UAVs lost in eastern Ukraine? Is this according to the APU?

    And again: "How are Russians different from Poles? They have more money for the army, but we are not dumber than them, so what's the catch" ... That’s the whole of Poland
  6. svp67
    svp67 29 March 2018 12: 09
    +2
    For "Ball" and "Bastion", "Outpost" is not that "bird" ... "Orion" must be brought to condition
    1. Viktor Petrov
      Viktor Petrov 29 March 2018 12: 50
      +2
      For them, unmanned helicopters make type BPV-500
      1. svp67
        svp67 29 March 2018 15: 47
        +2
        Quote: Victor Petrov
        For them, unmanned helicopters make type BPV-500

        But will there be enough flight range?
        1. Viktor Petrov
          Viktor Petrov 29 March 2018 17: 32
          +4
          radius 300 - 500 km for civilian declared + locator, for the coastal complex the main thing is enough from unprepared sites it can take off.
  7. Igor V
    Igor V 29 March 2018 12: 31
    +5
    On monitors really Sambian peninsula of the Kaliningrad region. smile
  8. parma
    parma 29 March 2018 13: 25
    +5
    UAVs come from Israel, on the PC there are "windows of HP" from the firmware, iron is also most likely from = over the hill ... What are we proud of? And it will definitely work when you really need it?
    1. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 29 March 2018 22: 59
      +6
      And you definitely wanted to write this in the comments of the military-patriotic site, not on RBC or Medusa? So you probably also have the same opinion about the Dakar Kamaz: one Kamaz cabin remained the same. Only now the rivals have the same cumminza and libher, but they win regularly, not the DAF, and not the Tatra, but Kamaz. Probably, nevertheless, to create a complex product, such as an armament system, there is something a little more important than just a set of standard components, it is also important who sits in the cockpit. What we are proud of, we can be modestly silent, but what we are not proud of is aplomb and hopeless hatred for our own country.
      1. parma
        parma 30 March 2018 12: 17
        0
        Well, in the first place, rudeness never made a person right ...
        Secondly, I would not compare KAMAZ for rally and production cars ...
        Thirdly, civilian products and military products cannot be compared, in other words, the article should not be called "Baltic Fleet. Russia in a few months has done what Poland didn’t have enough for three years", but "Baltic Fleet. Russia in a few months COULD BUY WHAT Poland did not have three years "...
        Why does everyone confuse the concept of patriotism and the concept of blindness?
        1. Navigator Basov
          Navigator Basov 30 March 2018 18: 45
          +2
          We bought the components from which we created the system. The most high-tech is always creating a system of components. And we are not talking about comparing rally Kamaz with serial ones, we are talking about the typical position: there is nothing domestic in the Dakar Kamaz (in Yotafon, in MS-21, etc.). And there, just the domestic most important thing is the creation of system components, sometimes unique (from components, like all). Everyone can buy, and it does not take time, and it cannot be said that Poland does not have money at all (hardly less than Russia). Well, in the latter, I was not rude, this snobbery is useless.
          1. _Jack_
            _Jack_ April 1 2018 11: 27
            0
            The most high-tech is always creating a system of components.
            And what is knowledge-intensive in the licensed production of foreign drones? Here our science is out of work, everything in Israel is developed there. And rightly the person noticed - military equipment running Windows XP is just some kind of tryndets. What is there to be proud of? By and large it is - everything is bought. Which system is it integrated into? No real-time fire control system.
            1. Navigator Basov
              Navigator Basov April 1 2018 12: 35
              +1
              Firstly, this is not about licensed production of UAVs, but about the military system that uses these UAVs for targeting. In this entire system, flying vehicles themselves are nothing more than flying vehicles with a load in the form of REO. You’re always so funny. Well, if there’s nothing science-intensive in the military targeting system, then it’s nothing complicated in Apple’s purchase of Korean screens and processors, and in placing production orders in China, but you all worship the USA so much that iPhone is a high-tech product of American design, and the Russian military targeting system - simply licensed production of foreign drones.
              And no one said anything about Windows XP, the picture shows only a picture of a meadow, this does not mean the use of Windows XP. Yes, there is a considerable probability that this is Windows XP, but the level of expert fortune-telling on photography in the comments of the military-patriotic site is just tryndets.
              Well, here no one is proud of anything, it is simply stated that the exercises were conducted and a promising guidance system was developed that expands the capabilities of coastal missile systems.
              Quote: _Jack_
              Which system is it integrated into? No real-time fire control system.
              If you remove the foam about how Poland could not again, then all the same it is written in plain text:
              The Russian Ministry of Defense announced the start of training to adjust the fire of naval artillery and coastal defense systems using unmanned aerial vehicles. This means that the Russians are already technically ready to use their anti-ship missiles of the Bal and Bastion coastal defense systems in the maximum range - up to 500 kilometers.
              <...>
              The article speaks the assumption that the Russians probably have not yet launched an automated system for transmitting data from drones to their ships, which means that it is not yet possible to talk about working in real time, but only about transmitting radio data on the results of firing.
              <...>
              However, this does not mean that the Russian Navy is not ready for this.
              The first exercise with the use of this system has passed, no one will officially declare details about it, but it has been suggested that they have not yet been fully tested, and you are happy to applaud Polish journalists: cheers! in Russia, the new weapons system is not fully tested! probably ... There really is nothing to be proud of if the commentators on the military-patriotic website pay attention only to rumors and conjectures convenient for anti-Russian propaganda. Either you are the link in this anti-Russian propaganda, or as in that comic.
              1. _Jack_
                _Jack_ April 1 2018 14: 10
                0
                but you all worship the United States so much
                I can say with the same success that you worship the USA
                naval exercises took place, during which a unit of unmanned aerial vehicles from the Kaliningrad region worked out activities for monitoring and correcting fire ship artillery.

                where the Defense Ministry reports that "a promising guidance system has been developed that expands the capabilities of coastal missile systems"? It is Polish citizens who suppose and scare each other. Only this is real
                In accordance with the information of the Russian Ministry of Defense, a "transfer of unmanned aerial vehicles from one of the airports to the designated area was tested in order to monitor the situation at the training ground and track the detected targets." A training flight was also conducted, during which the Outpost drone, at a height of several thousand meters, transmitted information to the command post about firing at the sea shield by the frigate "Yaroslav the Wise", a few kilometers away.

                That's the whole system. And here the rockets are not at all clear. The ship shoots, the drone shoots the video and transfers it to the ship, on the ship they amend the sight of artillery. This is just a super "promising guidance system." Everything else is your Wishlist and fiction (as well as Polish couch experts).
  9. evil partisan
    evil partisan 29 March 2018 18: 21
    +4
    Good tantrum. yes
  10. Terenin
    Terenin 29 March 2018 18: 26
    +10
    Really the Poles do not understand the simple truth. They "hired" NATO troops to guard. Any head of the organization relieves himself of security issues if he has concluded a security agreement with a private security company. No adversary has destroyed the national defense forces and the military-industrial complex in Europe, like the NATO alliance. Some rely on others, others “launder” the money and they deeply spit on the safety of some Poles, Balts and even “great and ancient ukrov” there.
    1. Simon
      Simon 29 March 2018 20: 06
      +4
      They "hired" NATO troops to guard --- Not ... e - these are the Poles themselves hired and plunged into NATO guards! Well, now I feel very sorry for them, they are on the front line. So they will get the first! Although I am very sorry for them. crying wink
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 29 March 2018 22: 29
        +8
        Yes, you don’t spoil the owner laughing
        1. Navigator Basov
          Navigator Basov 29 March 2018 23: 08
          0
          And why is the Chinese type 98 with the inscription US Army drawn?
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 30 March 2018 08: 43
            +2
            Quote: Navigator Basov
            And why is the Chinese type 98 with the inscription US Army drawn?

            And NATO is not stupid, it’s closer to them from China to Poland and cheaper lol
            1. Navigator Basov
              Navigator Basov 30 March 2018 18: 49
              0
              No, the question is why then the US Army? It's not like buying a light bulb with an Ali-express delivery to Russia via Finland or Latvia.
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  12. Simon
    Simon 29 March 2018 19: 59
    +2
    With the strength of the Russian bear, the Polish donkey is far from that! request wink
  13. Vitaly Pastukhov
    Vitaly Pastukhov 29 March 2018 20: 03
    +2
    Not indicated how many times hit. I remember, being in my 5th year at an internship in Baltiysk, I had to explain to the flagship artilleryman the brigade of landing ships, where on the map X, and where Y. :-)
  14. alauda1038
    alauda1038 29 March 2018 20: 08
    +2
    It can be seen that the Poles are not aware that dying for the interests of mattresses should be exclusively with trash
  15. Dormidont
    Dormidont 29 March 2018 20: 13
    +2
    three hundred years weren’t enough
  16. astankard
    astankard 29 March 2018 20: 20
    +1
    "... soon all ships located in Polish ports will be able to hit, as well as those that would like to leave or enter them."
    As if, now they cannot strike ...
    This is just an additional system .. "navigation", in the absence of guidance over the satellite., Is simply tied to the coordinates of the location in real time.
    Even I do not see anything new here, and the "several months" sounds amazing ....
  17. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 29 March 2018 20: 26
    +7
    I liked the loss of our drones in the Donbass very much))) And in fact, they’ve got a lot of Psheks from the fact that they don’t have a hedgehog skin, and the Russians have UAVs that can direct the Strategic Missile Forces - it's a joke laughing
  18. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 30 March 2018 03: 33
    0
    The correct Polish source is monitored - it reflects the real state of affairs in the Polish Army, especially in the comments, in much the same way as here, in VO. Poland is capable of producing dangerous unmanned systems, for example, the Polish counterparts of our prototype Mi-2 helicopter at the famous factory in Swidnik. NATO, even Americans, are eyeing them. They tested them in work with their destroyers URO in the Baltic.
  19. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy 30 March 2018 09: 13
    0
    Quote: Bass Navigator
    And you definitely wanted to write this in the comments of the military-patriotic site, not on RBC or Medusa? So you probably also have the same opinion about the Dakar Kamaz: one Kamaz cabin remained the same. Only now the rivals have the same cumminza and libher, but they win regularly, not the DAF, and not the Tatra, but Kamaz. Probably, nevertheless, to create a complex product, such as an armament system, there is something a little more important than just a set of standard components, it is also important who sits in the cockpit. What we are proud of, we can be modestly silent, but what we are not proud of is aplomb and hopeless hatred for our own country.


    Very well said. Ready to sign each word. You watch a report about the race and it’s breathtaking, as their brains don’t stick to their skull, But it’s not alarming you that Belarusians are somewhere nearby in this particular sport ...

    There are no more such rivals. The car concern, although not the most powerful, in comparison with other world manufacturers competes with private teams, with amateurs .. Here Poland is, such an amateur since the 40s of the 20th century

    It’s like your ball hockey, you are the best in the whole world, and an opponent capable of arguing with this is only one.
  20. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy 30 March 2018 09: 28
    +1
    Quote: Dormidont
    three hundred years weren’t enough


    Immature Empire. Historical underdogs
  21. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy 30 March 2018 09: 34
    +2
    Quote: Bass Navigator
    And why is the Chinese type 98 with the inscription US Army drawn?


    Our guys were drawing, a headache after the bar and all that .. We found some impressive tanks in tyrnetes - work for 15 minutes, and have a beer! laughing
  22. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha April 4 2018 12: 33
    0
    The Psheks no longer know what to do in the current situation with Russia's superior weapons and begin to blame their officials.