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Branding, blocking, planting! Who will work for the good of Russia?

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Pretense brings together those who are bound by the mutual responsibility of hypocrisy.
Jean Baptiste Moliere



Opinion: in addition to the fight against corrupt officials and bribe takers in the ranks of administrations, fire and sanitary-epidemiological inspections, it is worthwhile to take for the scoundrels, alarmists.



Especially for those who act under the guise of truths. For these - especially.

PR on blood - well, what could be worse? Moreover, it makes no difference whether it is political or personal, for money.

To brand, imprison, fine, block on the Internet.

How much meanness crawled out, how many reptiles of subculture hissed, just wonder.

And to call these organisms people simply does not turn the language.

But, nevertheless, the country is obliged to know their freaks. Not in the face, here these vile Hari simply have no right to be. So go through the list. Hit parade peculiar.

1. Nikita Kuvikov, he is a blogger / pranker Yevgeny Volnov.

Scum of the highest category, and, unfortunately, a citizen of Ukraine. Find and crush this reptile will be problematic.

It was this animal that called the morgues and hospitals of Kemerovo, posing as an employee of the Emergencies Ministry, then the presidential administration. Sowed panic, talking about hundreds of corpses.

I think everyone will agree that Kuvikov is a rare beast and disgrace for Ukraine. But the fact that he had grateful followers. The same, in principle, but the citizens of our country.

I will give this flock just by numbers.

2. Mikhail Pechersky and Alexey Pskovitin (NEMAGIA), video bloggers.

Two old-time scoundrels talked about "174 corpses in the morgue on Volgograd."

As evidence, a woman’s voice recording from the WhatsApp audio message.

The second unknown person told about 355 victims, the information “was handed over to her by the Ministry of Emergency Situations”.

Stupid publication of unverified information provocative sense.

Movie not deleted. Enjoy, probably ...

3. Nikolay Sobolev.

This blogger compared the fire in the shopping center "Winter Cherry" with the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. If then the USSR authorities were silent about the scale of the tragedy, it means that the same thing is happening now, says Sobolev.

His main evidence is videos with audio recordings from WhatsApp messenger, whose origin and authenticity cannot be established. But this is not necessary Sobolev.

"Do you believe that all 60 people died, who are being talked about on television? I personally doubt it very much."

His clip Nicholas 28 March deleted.

4. Alexander Dviznov.

Parody of Sobolev. Without any additional comments and explanations, I showed two screenshots from some women in my video. One of them is supposedly the wife of the manager of a certain Moscow (!) Morgue, which, like the others, is the manager. for some reason flew to Kemerovo.

Another with the same degree of confidence indicates "400 victims, 2 / 3 - children 10-13 years."

The source of these screenshots, their veracity and the adequacy of the authors - none of this Dviznov questioned.

Clip removed.

5. Sergey Broksh.

Another videotrus who removed his libel.

I don’t know where they look in the Wild Jam advertising holding, the roof of this liar. But Broksh set a record. In the opinion of the video key, the victims of the Kemerovo tragedy are already more than 500 people.

Without any evidence. But the video has already been viewed more than 2 a million times, for the rest I don’t care.

Clip removed.

5. Dmitry Ivanov, aka Kamikaze_D.

Branding, blocking, planting! Who will work for the good of Russia?


Ivanov sentenced 400 people, without giving any evidence of this information, but emphasizing that the media would not tell about it.

6. Danila Cross.

For a change - stand-up comedian from Peter. This is really, who would say what ...



And, of course, how can you manage without Navalny on such a day and throw him down? Of course, the little ones rushed into battle ...

7. Anton Voloshin, head of the Navalny headquarters in Novokuznetsk.



What a clear confirmation! His friend says that "there was a movement" ...

8. Ksenia Pakhomova, head of the Navalny headquarters in Kemerovo.

Ksyushenka masterpiece! Maybe the namesake from Peter is giving lessons.



Tanks Ksenia forgot! How can tanks be without democracy?

What is characteristic: not one apologized for lies. At best - quietly removed. At worst - left. Hey hangs, it's not magic ...

Children, of course, need to flog. Yes, restore this time-tested practice, spitting on the newfangled introduction.

But these, from the point 2 to 5, clearly under the investigation. Article? 128.1, please. Not deadly, of course, but palpable for the budget. Both countries and these organisms. To lie was not learned. And earn blood.

And because of the young ...

The old ones are also handsome, there everyone was noted on the basis of “finding the truth”. Venediktov, Albats, Panchvidze, Petukhov, Varlamov, Rynska, Navalny, Sterligov ...

That is why, when it is necessary to work hard or something reasonable, good, eternal to sow, you cannot get them? And when trouble happens, as the toads climb from under the snags before the rain and shout.

The main thing, of course, is to grab yours. Loud roar about the bloody regime, mean power, and so on. The script is known.

Yes, the power in Kemerovo turned out to be crap. From the governor Tuleyev to those whom he will dismiss now. Judging by the shooting with Putin, in Kemerovo, only the prosecutor is sane. The rest can only memekat, and even then not very clearly.

But Albats and Venediktov are definitely not an option.

And these loud-voiced bloggers (soon the word will already become obscene) should also be pressed.

It may be necessary for Roskomnadzor to tear the backs off the chairs and work. But this again - it is necessary to WORK! The scale of the Internet space throughout the country!

No, I guess, Roskomnadzor will not have to rely on it. They will be fined for not writing for the thousandth time that ISIS is prohibited in the Russian Federation. And bloggers bloggers - this is below their dignity.

It's a pity. It is a pity that in Russia, despite the thousands of freeloaders from the budget, there is no one to deal with the purity of information.

Therefore, most likely, you will have to continue to endure this brown slush in the infosphere. Lies, lies and provocations.

P.S. Take care of children from these ... From the first point to the last.
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  1. Chertt
    Chertt 31 March 2018 06: 24
    +9
    Therefore, most likely, you will have to continue to endure this brown slush in the infosphere. Lies, lies and provocations.

    For such acts, there is either no punishment at all, or it is so ridiculous that it would not be better at all. Therefore, you need to * * * punish "* out of court", and what this is fraught with is clear to everyone. Or as "flower children" non-resistance to evil by violence. Ie do not pay attention and educate the younger generation, "for all good versus all bad"
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 31 March 2018 07: 08
      +36
      Quote: Chertt
      Therefore, most likely, you will have to continue to endure this brown slush in the infosphere. Lies, lies and provocations.

      For such acts, there is either no punishment at all, or it is so ridiculous that it would not be better at all.

      If a punishment is introduced for intentional distortion of victims during tragedies, then this should act in both directions, both for excess of victims and for understatement.
      The whole situation arose precisely because the people did not believe in power, which systematically underestimates (delays) or does not announce losses at all. Even with this tragedy in Kemerovo, on the very first day, 4-5 victims were hanged over the zombies, while the Kemerovo residents themselves (then scum-bloggers had not yet connected) claimed that there were more than 50 victims, which turned out to be true.
      Do you think the authorities really didn’t know on the very first day that there were significantly more victims than 4-5 people ?? This is what generated a wave of mistrust on which bloggers and prankers swept.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 07: 13
        +15
        Quote: Stas157
        If a punishment is introduced for intentional distortion of victims during tragedies, then this should act in both directions, both for excess of victims and for understating

        Exactly.
        He said that a lot - get into the snout.
        He said that a little - get in the horn.
        And how to say for sure, no one knows. It will be awesome!
        Staseg, you are definitely an engineer? I have doubts wink
        1. 210ox
          210ox 31 March 2018 07: 32
          +19
          Roman, dear .. You understand very well that we live in a society free of morality and principles .. People are brought up on the basis of personal gain. Personally, I educate my sons in the good old socialist foundations. And they will never write such muck. So that's all questions and indignation towards those who cultivate and propagate the like. And I hope that these small parasites will be punished.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 07: 37
            +7
            And good day to you.
            Quote: 210ox
            we live in a society free from morality and principles

            Exaggerate ... well, okay.
            I'm not talking about that at all.
            I’m talking about the “proposals” of some “engineers” that are either impossible to implement (for purely technical reasons) or that it is harmful to implement them, since possible abuse will exceed the benefits of their “implementation”.
            Staseg wrote nonsense again. He often does it. And I’m just bored, morning, two days off ahead ... and here Staseg with his "rational proposals" ...
            1. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 31 March 2018 08: 45
              +21
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              And good day to you.
              Quote: 210ox
              we live in a society free from morality and principles

              Exaggerate ... well, okay.
              I'm not talking about that at all.
              I’m talking about the “proposals” of some “engineers” that are either impossible to implement (for purely technical reasons) or that it is harmful to implement them, since possible abuse will exceed the benefits of their “implementation”.
              Staseg wrote nonsense again. He often does it. And I’m just bored, morning, two days off ahead ... and here Staseg with his "rational proposals" ...

              Golovan you write such things constantly! Everyone is already used to your unsubstantiated antics and don’t react! laughing
            2. 210ox
              210ox 31 March 2018 16: 45
              +5
              Golovan, why get bored? Do something useful. For example, I made a device in the garden, tied a vine to the arch. Go to the garage, get busy, I don’t know .. hi hi
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              And good day to you.
              Quote: 210ox
              we live in a society free from morality and principles

              Exaggerate ... well, okay.
              I'm not talking about that at all.
              I’m talking about the “proposals” of some “engineers” that are either impossible to implement (for purely technical reasons) or that it is harmful to implement them, since possible abuse will exceed the benefits of their “implementation”.
              Staseg wrote nonsense again. He often does it. And I’m just bored, morning, two days off ahead ... and here Staseg with his "rational proposals" ...
          2. ddd1975
            ddd1975 April 2 2018 04: 59
            0
            ... yes, it’s kind of already overtaken - Volnova seems to be overwhelmed or lies in intensive care ... in the pictures, at least, he is very similar. That's why there is no information on the internet - it's strange ...
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 31 March 2018 07: 42
          +24
          Quote: Golovan Jack

          Staseg, you are definitely an engineer?

          At least you can absolutely say for certain that you are Kisa - a boor. Good morning! Relieved of you!
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 07: 43
            +8
            Quote: Stas157
            you kitty - boor

            You yourself are a boor. And kitty - themselves too.
            Staseg, why are you writing such stupid things since the morning?
        3. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 31 March 2018 08: 43
          +22
          Golovan, Stas is right, and you understand that perfectly! Do not jerk, you are now falling below the baseboard wink In fact, Stas speaks of responsibility for words and even more so for deeds!
          1. SOF
            SOF 31 March 2018 14: 08
            +5
            Quote: andrej-shironov
            In fact, Stas speaks of responsibility for words and even more so for deeds!

            ... periodontal ... And how to be responsible to the persons with whom the information is shaken right now, not laterwhen you can verify the correctness?
            Following your logic, you must either be silent, but then there will be a public explosion: "They are silent!", or issue preliminary information, but then, over time, after clarification, there will also be a public explosion: "They lied!".
            Which variant bang Are you more convinced?
            And for what, with greater severity, will you punish? For silence or preliminary information?
            1. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 31 March 2018 16: 50
              +4
              smile I will punish for a lie! Which is towards decreasing victims (power), that is increasing (bloggers). There will be no explosion if the people even believe in power.
              1. SOF
                SOF 31 March 2018 18: 57
                +7
                Quote: andrej-shironov
                I will punish for a lie

                ... it's gratifying! Now explain the following:
                You will begin to punish from the first hours of the tragedy, when, objectively and for objective reasons, is it still impossible to say anything? Or give a handicap of time for silence and clarification?
                Do you generally understand that you are talking in stupid slogans that have nothing to do with real reality?
                Take the trouble to put yourself in the place of the "talking head", which you need to say as you demand, but you can only say what is, tentatively, at a given point in time ... What will you do? To be silent, and then sit down, under a punishment of people like you, or you will “lie”, and then when the counting of the victims of the tragedy (a terrible term ..... tried to go around it, but doesn’t come out) will be over, will you sit down for a “lie”? Or maybe shoot yourself?
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 19: 01
                  +6
                  Quote: SOF
                  Take the trouble to put yourself in place ...

                  You feed the troll. Off hand. With tenacity worthy (IMHO) of the best application.
                  1. andrej-shironov
                    andrej-shironov April 1 2018 09: 06
                    +3
                    smile Golovan, well, not yet to feed you.
                2. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov April 1 2018 09: 05
                  +1
                  smile Alexander, should I explain to you how much is required from the talking head, but often it is silent like a fish on ice and nothing. At the moment of any tragedy, it is better to take at least a day of silence, without stuffing and statements, at least joyful at least tragic, that on the part of bloggers that on the part of the authorities. But then you can make statements. However, many bloggers whose backside is hot because of the presence of false sensations cannot do this. They write correctly: alarmists must be shot! wink There is nothing worse than panic. I agree with that. And everyone should answer for their words and deeds. And the Internet is no exception. But only after an investigation. Therefore, the phrase "stupid slogans" I forgive you.
              2. vovanpain
                vovanpain 31 March 2018 19: 11
                +5
                Quote: andrej-shironov
                I will punish for a lie!

                I will repay all laughing are you lord god laughing Already laughing, oh afraid. wink
                1. karish
                  karish 31 March 2018 19: 13
                  +1
                  Quote: vovanpain
                  I will repay all

                  Hello Volodya.
                  Happy Easter !!! hi
                  1. vovanpain
                    vovanpain 31 March 2018 19: 18
                    +2
                    Quote: karish
                    Hello Volodya.

                    Hello Be Friendly Alexander! drinks hi
                    Quote: karish
                    Happy Easter !!!

                    And you Sasha with the upcoming Palm Sunday and the upcoming Easter Friend! drinks drinks hi
                    1. karish
                      karish 31 March 2018 19: 45
                      +1
                      Quote: vovanpain
                      Hello Be Friendly Alexander!

                      Thank you. Volodya. !!!!
                      health and freedom to you and your loved ones.
                      Easter is a holiday of freedom.
                      Quote: vovanpain
                      And you Sasha with the upcoming Palm Sunday and the upcoming Easter Friend!

                      drinks hi fellow
                      Volodya. I did not think to visit the promised land?
                      There is something to see, and I will take care. hi drinks
                2. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov April 1 2018 09: 07
                  +1
                  wink Waldemar, laughter for no reason ..... well then you yourself know.
        4. Mestny
          Mestny 31 March 2018 10: 24
          +4
          Staseg, you are definitely an engineer? I have doubts

          Is that a minor?
          This "engineer" in one of the previous discussions called 54 million people of Russian citizens "Zaputinists", and put an equal sign between them and Bandera. That is, the Nazis.
          Here is such an "engineer."
          This article is by the way about such. And the only question is whether the power of the nut will be tightened against these, or the citizens themselves will have to watch them in the porches of these engineers of human souls.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 31 March 2018 12: 29
            +12
            Quote: Mestny
            This "engineer" in one of the previous discussions called 54 million people of Russian citizens "Zaputinists", and put an equal sign between them and Bandera. That is, the Nazis.

            You are not duplicating your nonsense in the first article! Kindly give my comment where I 54 million people called fascists! Or apologize for your reservation.
      2. Chertt
        Chertt 31 March 2018 07: 17
        +6
        Quote: Stas157
        The whole situation arose precisely because the people do not believe in power,

        Not a single nation, Never, Nowhere, completely believes in power (leadership at work, salespeople in a store, etc.). The question is broader, how to distinguish intentionally distorted information and stop its dissemination.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 31 March 2018 07: 37
          +15
          Quote: Chertt

          No people, Never, Nowhere, completely believe in power

          Well, you are very generalizing! If you look at our forum, then the feeling that he truly believes. At least a good half.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 31 March 2018 10: 32
            +2
            Again I came up with a teenage definition.
            Holy - nothing to do with it. They just believe, to one degree or another.
            The network has many forums where people like you are going to - why come here and cry, that everything is not the way you want it to?
        2. 210ox
          210ox 31 March 2018 07: 43
          +6
          Yes, truthful information appeared only on the third day. Well, the authorities couldn’t know exactly what and how much .. Especially on the first day .. There and those involved in this case, or rather eyewitnesses who had just retreated from the shock, told tales. They quickly merged into nowhere.
          Quote: Chertt
          Quote: Stas157
          The whole situation arose precisely because the people do not believe in power,

          Not a single nation, Never, Nowhere, completely believes in power (leadership at work, salespeople in a store, etc.). The question is broader, how to distinguish intentionally distorted information and stop its dissemination.
        3. free
          free 31 March 2018 17: 23
          0
          Quote: Chertt
          Quote: Stas157
          The whole situation arose precisely because the people do not believe in power,

          Not a single nation, Never, Nowhere, completely believes in power (leadership at work, salespeople in a store, etc.). The question is broader, how to distinguish intentionally distorted information and stop its dissemination.

          He’s talking about a little bit, but he’s talking about completely, well, what can I say !? fool
      3. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 31 March 2018 10: 05
        +6
        Quote: Stas157
        on the very first day, 4-5 victims were hanged by a zombie hunter,

        Reported that has already been confirmed.
        Quote: Stas157
        while the Kemerovo residents themselves (then filthy bloggers hadn’t connected yet) claimed that there were more than 50 victims, which turned out to be true.

        Kemerovo citizens of Kemerovo, but the media must operate with official data, which they did when such information appeared.
        Quote: Stas157
        Do you think the authorities really didn’t know on the very first day that there were significantly more victims than 4-5 people ??

        Obviously, I knew that only the exact number of victims had not yet been established, but to operate on human lives in the form + - 100 ... request
        And the article says that the "broadcasters" deliberately made stuffing on death.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 31 March 2018 10: 20
          +7
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Reported that has already been confirmed.

          Maybe then at all it was not necessary to indicate the exact quantity until confirmed? And then the statements about 4-5 people seemed extremely underestimated. There, Putin, never called the exact number of victims. The only thing he claimed was dozens of victims. And in this regard there are no questions to him.
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 31 March 2018 10: 26
            +4
            Quote: Stas157
            Maybe then at all it was not necessary to indicate the exact quantity until confirmed?

            Information is provided at the current moment, then clarifications went. And if they hadn’t said it at all, a howl about silence would have risen.
            Quote: Stas157
            And then the statements about 4-5 people seemed extremely underestimated.

            Maybe the scale of the tragedy was not clear at the beginning. request
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 31 March 2018 11: 09
              +9
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Maybe the scale of the tragedy was not clear at the beginning.

              This is not true! Everything was clear from the start. Watch the video, live evidence ... Only a blind person could say about 4-5 people! When I heard about the fire in the zombie house, I didn’t even pay attention. But, when live testimony went on YouTube - the truth was horrified! It was obvious that the official picture greatly underestimated the tragedy. And only with a delay of three days, under pressure from the public, the officers began to give truthful information. But, the people were already excited.
              And the belated announcement of mourning for the same. Obviously, someone did not want to spoil the inauguration for themselves, but after such a massive echo of the tragedy, they had to announce ... after the Kemerovo region! The first time is that the province first declared mourning, and then, as if waking up the rest of the country.
              1. SOF
                SOF 31 March 2018 14: 12
                +6
                Quote: Stas157
                Obviously, someone didn’t want to spoil their inauguration

                ... delirium of the offended ... not subject to comment ...
        2. Mestny
          Mestny 31 March 2018 10: 35
          +7
          Do not explain to him, it is useless.
          The authority does not have the right to publish unconfirmed data.
          But such as this is understandable anyway. Their goal is different - not to find out the truth, but to yell about bad power for any reason.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 31 March 2018 11: 13
            +10
            Quote: Mestny
            Do not explain to him, it is useless.

            You went to the procedures today, or not yet?
      4. siberalt
        siberalt 31 March 2018 11: 53
        0
        The RF Investigative Committee opened a case on the grounds of inciting ethnic hatred on this fact. And if Putin gives the go-ahead to Kadyrov, then his guys will deliver this freak to Russia within XNUMX hours. winked
      5. Bat_Omsk
        Bat_Omsk 31 March 2018 19: 22
        +2
        And everything is simple ... An informational vacuum has formed, which our newsmen have not been able to fill ... And it is absolutely logical that, under the current conditions, those who are listed in the author’s list filled this vacuum and filled it in such a way as to cause a wave of indignation and protests.
        Why did the leading media not interrupt the broadcasting network and did not switch to emergency broadcasts from Kemerovo ?! As they showed lobood by zomboyaschik, they continued.
        So, in my opinion, the author’s list does not have enough of those who actually caused this wave of stuffing - the leadership of news television channels
      6. would
        would April 1 2018 06: 13
        0
        Even with this tragedy in Kemerovo, on the very first day, 4-5 victims were hanged over the zombies, while the Kemerovo residents themselves (then scum-bloggers had not yet connected) claimed that there were more than 50 victims, which turned out to be true.


        Before you write something, you should study the mathematical part. Do you know why "according to the zombie man they hung about 4-5 victims"? Yes, because at that moment in time 5 bodies were found! And all the rest are missing because their bodies were not found, purely hypothetically they can be alive. The procedure is such that until you find a body, it is impossible to recognize a person as dead. And if you really followed the situation, you would have seen how, according to the “zombie”, the number of missing people decreased and the number of deaths increased by exactly the same figure. They find the body, delete them from the missing, and record them in the dead.

        Do you think the authorities really did not know on the very first day that there were significantly more victims than 4-5 people?


        It didn’t matter whether or not (on the first day it was very unlikely, then they couldn’t even really interview everyone), you can know anything, legally you have no right to record a person in the dead without finding his body. Or at least the remains of the bodies.
    2. Laruss
      Laruss 31 March 2018 16: 58
      +1
      How not to pay attention to bacteria ??? ... only destroy !!!
  2. g1v2
    g1v2 31 March 2018 06: 38
    0
    Tuleyev actually died in this fire niece. Maybe it's worth following the words? And then it will turn out the same as those bloggers whom you expose. request
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 31 March 2018 08: 36
      +11
      Quote: g1v2
      Tuleyev actually died in this fire niece. Maybe it's worth following the words?

      Yes, he reported this himself when he made excuses to Putin. All the same, no matter how hard you try, it’s hard to imagine Tuleyev on a par with the distraught Kemerovo residents who lost their loved ones. He became terribly far from the common people, even in grief.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 08: 46
        +6
        Quote: Stas157
        He became terribly far from the common people ...

        A running colonel (and above) causes laughter in peacetime, and panic in war time.
        Think about since there is something Staseg yes
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 31 March 2018 10: 38
        0
        All the same, no matter how hard you try, it’s hard to imagine Tuleyev on a par with the distraught Kemerovo residents

        Well, that is, since Tuleyev is an official, and his niece died - is it difficult to imagine him as a grief-stricken person? Since a Russian official - so in your opinion is not a man? Well, is it hard to imagine?
        Fascism blows a mile away. This is the second time.
        I'm watching you. And not just me.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 31 March 2018 11: 38
          +10
          Quote: Mestny
          Fascism blows a mile away. This is the second time.
          I'm watching you. And not just me.

          I know!)) There are many of you in the ward there. Are you and Jack not from the same site?
        2. siberalt
          siberalt 31 March 2018 12: 06
          +9
          And why did Tuleyev not know that the Winter Vin was built without permission and without permission to operate? There are more than one such cherries throughout the region. winked
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 31 March 2018 12: 40
            +10
            Quote: siberalt
            And why did Tuleyev not know that the Winter Vin was built without permission and without permission to operate?

            Why was this tragedy possible after the Lame Horse? The lesson obtained was not learned. After all, the same toxic smoke from plastic sheathing! If not for this smoke, then everyone would have managed to get out. Putin, when meeting with the initiative group, asked the same question!
            Quote: siberalt
            There are more than one such cherries throughout the region.

            At the same meeting, Putin said that there are more than a hundred such shopping centers converted from old factory buildings across Russia. I hope after this disaster, these centers will be finally checked. If Putin cannot bother to do this, then let Medvedev at least do it! The governors are finally in their fields ... How many more tragedies must happen for the power to strike a finger?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 12: 54
              +8
              Staseg, I’m an engineer from you, like a ballerina from me (I’m a very bad ballerina, if you didn’t understand):
              Quote: Stas157
              ... the same poisonous smoke from plastic sheathing ...

              They have not yet come up with plastic that would not “smoke”. What you said is true for a fire ... yes, almost anywhere, even in the train. Have you ever seen? I've seen ...
              Quote: Stas157
              If not for this smoke, then everyone would have managed to get out

              Google "CO" (carbon monoxide, it is carbon monoxide). It is not from plastic - it also takes place. You can even get burned from the stove if you don’t know how to handle it (you don’t know how to stopud).
              "Everyone would have time," og fool
              Quote: Stas157
              I hope after this disaster, finally check out these centers

              Already checked. And not only centers. I had a fire alarm right now at work, the lights were cut down, fiends, and forced to cut down from the 12th floor ... and my servers are suffocating there angry
              In short - throw you already ... hysteria, annoying, honestly ... bite stop
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 31 March 2018 13: 40
                +7
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                They have not yet come up with plastic that would not “smoke”.

                Quote: Golovan Jack
                In short - throw you already ... hysteria

                Putin should have objected to this when he was indignant that someone had given permission to use combustible materials in the Winter Cherry. And then, is it possible to use only plastic in the decoration?
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 13: 46
                  +7
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Putin should have objected this to you

                  What for? He, unlike you, does not say obvious nonsense ...
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Is it possible to use only plastic in the decoration?

                  And who told you that there was only plastic?
                  In short, Staseg engineer ... tie the arrows to translate.
                  You froze stupidity again. Twice. Where and which one - I showed you.
                  Enjoy yes
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 31 March 2018 17: 04
                    +5
                    Eh Kisa-Kisa, again you carry pseudo authoritative nonsense. This is Kitty's system, and after the Lame Horse it has not changed. The same situation in ALL shopping centers in the country. Five years, ten years will pass, and again everything will return to square one. And when in the event of a fire you are no longer going down, but jumping from the 12th floor, remember my words. Not beds need to be moved, but women need to be changed. fool
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 17: 19
                      +5
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Pussycat, pussycat, again carry pseudo authoritative nonsense

                      What exactly is "nonsense", Osia?
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      The same situation in ALL shopping centers in the country

                      Knowing lies yes
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      No need to move the beds, and women to change

                      I’d here use a couple of “women” with pleasure to change something more useful, sorry, this is not in my abilities.
                      So they walk here, sweep their tongues. You do not know them, an hour? wink
                      PS: Oh, the stripes have moved off the flag ... funny recourse
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 31 March 2018 20: 02
                        +2
                        The roof moved off from someone, and not just strips. And in order to refute the lies, they cite facts as arguments, and not just another nonsense in the best traditions of Sharikov.
              2. free
                free 31 March 2018 17: 29
                +7
                Google "CO" (carbon monoxide, it is carbon monoxide). It is not from plastic - it also takes place.
                So you missed the jack, it’s not about carbon monoxide, but the burning products of plastics and the like. Just die enough and a strong cough starts and with it a new batch of snacks. The burning products of plastics are the strongest poison, carbon dioxide isn’t around stood.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 17: 35
                  +5
                  Quote: free
                  Here you...

                  ... with this - to his wife and drinking companions yes
                  Quote: free
                  here it’s not carbon monoxide, but the burning products of plastics and the like

                  Your mega-literacy ... touches laughing
                  - What is "plastic-like", sound?
                  - what is "fumes", you only read in books. Best case scenario. Well, then read carefully, or something:
                  Quote: Vika
                  Carbon monoxide enters atmospheric air for any type of combustion ...
                  With an increase in the concentration of CO to 0,32%, paralysis and loss of consciousness occur (death occurs after 30 minutes). At a concentration above 1,2%, consciousness is lost after two to three breaths, a person dies in less than 3 minutes

                  This is without any “plastic”, by the way.
                  Available outlined? Are free ...
                  1. free
                    free 31 March 2018 19: 51
                    +5
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Quote: free
                    Here you...

                    ... with this - to his wife and drinking companions yes
                    Quote: free
                    here it’s not carbon monoxide, but the burning products of plastics and the like

                    Your mega-literacy ... touches laughing
                    - What is "plastic-like", sound?
                    - what is "fumes", you only read in books. Best case scenario. Well, then read carefully, or something:
                    Quote: Vika
                    Carbon monoxide enters atmospheric air for any type of combustion ...
                    With an increase in the concentration of CO to 0,32%, paralysis and loss of consciousness occur (death occurs after 30 minutes). At a concentration above 1,2%, consciousness is lost after two to three breaths, a person dies in less than 3 minutes

                    This is without any “plastic”, by the way.
                    Available outlined? Are free ...

                    Where did you download this from, the clown from Wikipedia? I’m a fireman! More than once in light smoke, I went without an apparatus and nothing, but you tell me. One word is Kisa-troll.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 20: 07
                      +5
                      Quote: free
                      I'm a fireman

                      Well, so the fire is already cabbage ... or put out laughing
                      Quote: free
                      More than once in light smoke without an apparatus went and nothing

                      Addict, probably recourse
                      Go, you're not interested in me ... free, in a word yes
                      1. free
                        free 31 March 2018 20: 16
                        +4
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Quote: free
                        I'm a fireman

                        Well, so the fire is already cabbage ... or put out laughing
                        Quote: free
                        More than once in light smoke without an apparatus went and nothing

                        Addict, probably recourse
                        Go, you're not interested in me ... free, in a word yes

                        So listen, smoke is smoke, when a tree burns, you can still walk without an apparatus if it doesn’t smoke very much (by the way carbon dioxide) and nothing will happen if your head hurts a little and you swallow a little more. , heaters such as mineral wool and the like, if you just breathe in a little bit, you will not be able to restrain your cough, and you will still breathe in coughing. And after all, it can be.
                        Sorry for the insults, you brought me.
              3. Sewer krainiy
                Sewer krainiy 31 March 2018 17: 51
                +6
                They have not yet come up with plastic that would not “smoke”. What you said is true for a fire ... yes, almost anywhere, even in the train. Have you ever seen? I've seen ...
                Novel. They came up with classes NG, G-1, G-2 for a long time .... Google. But apparently, therefore, people are also expensive ...
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 18: 05
                  +4
                  Quote: Sewer Krainiy
                  They came up with classes NG, G-1, G-2 for a long time .... Google

                  These are "combustibility classes," as I understand it.
                  This does not mean that it does not burn at all, with where the thread 800 Celsius everything burns. And all sorts of rubbish
                  Plastic is generally evil, but without it, nothing request
                  1. Sewer krainiy
                    Sewer krainiy 31 March 2018 18: 32
                    +6
                    NG - non-combustible in practice. If you finish the premises with materials of class NG, G-1, there will be no temperature of about 800 degrees. Now even electrical wiring with insulation and plastic cable channels for wiring are all NG classes on sale. So - it's all about greed ... hi By the way, my chief engineer, when I heard that the fire was caused by a short circuit, began to tremble finely and express profanity. In this case, he said, I must be immediately judged. What short circuit can be, if in networks serviceable cutoff machines. It is necessary to service electrical installations on time. And all this is money, money, money ...
              4. Cop
                Cop April 1 2018 12: 54
                +1
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                ... and my servers are suffocating there

                And you do not save on UPS .....
  3. 1536
    1536 31 March 2018 07: 03
    0
    Nomen illis legio (lat.) - their name is Legion. From the Bible: Jesus Christ asked the demoniac "What is your name?" The obsessed replied, “Legion,” suggesting that many demons had entered into it.
    PS For information, they were in the Roman army and included in their composition from 2000 to 10 000 soldiers. At the head of the legion stood the military stands or legate.
  4. izya top
    izya top 31 March 2018 07: 06
    +23
    Venediktov, Albats, Panchvidze, Roosters, Varlamov, Rynska, Navalny, Sterligov ...

    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 31 March 2018 08: 46
      +15
      good So come on! Is the people against the one that is not in the body and pipe !!!
      1. Falcond
        Falcond 31 March 2018 09: 38
        +8
        And 18 years old what was in the way ???
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 31 March 2018 09: 40
          0
          smile Dmitry, are you talking to me now?
          1. Falcond
            Falcond 31 March 2018 13: 26
            +1
            And who else?
            1. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 31 March 2018 16: 51
              +6
              smile So at the helm was a galley slave! And not Stalin.
        2. free
          free 31 March 2018 17: 33
          +4
          Quote: FalconD
          And 18 years old what was in the way ???

          What prevented us from correcting what the authorities had done, was it something they wanted to ask? So the authorities arranged this mess and it will not let him fix it. Don’t believe it, and you try!
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 31 March 2018 10: 41
        +1
        Throw everything - life, family, and in barracks with a pickaxe a wheelbarrow and a shovel to the great construction sites of the new socialism?
        The people are against, yes.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 31 March 2018 12: 19
          +11
          Quote: Mestny
          Throw everything - life, family, and in barracks with a pickaxe a wheelbarrow and a shovel to the great construction sites of the new socialism?

          (yawn) You have very misconceptions about the era of Stalin
        2. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 31 March 2018 16: 52
          +5
          wink So for people like you, sausage always wins. In fact, in modern Russia there are no great construction projects. Yes, that great, ordinary then two times and miscalculated. wink
        3. free
          free 31 March 2018 17: 34
          +5
          Quote: Mestny
          Throw everything - life, family, and in barracks with a pickaxe a wheelbarrow and a shovel to the great construction sites of the new socialism?
          The people are against, yes.

          What kind of people are you talking about? For the fact that 75% of Russia's wealth is owned?
      3. sdc_alex
        sdc_alex April 2 2018 05: 15
        0
        Quote: andrej-shironov
        So come on! Is the people against the one that is not in the body and pipe !!!

        By “Stalin’s methods”, 80 percent of the commentators on this site will go to build a thread and / or cut down a forest. For some reason, it is generally accepted that these "methods" should apply only to officials ..... "people" will rake in the first place and "rake" a lot.
        Or "what for sho?" wink
  5. samarin1969
    samarin1969 31 March 2018 07: 09
    +4
    "They will be fined for not having written for the thousandth time that ISIS is banned in the Russian Federation. And the nonsense-bloggers are below their dignity." ... They will not be touched. They have their own role - to portray the opposition and "do not run for the flags." "WORK" is necessary - I agree. .... And there would be a country in which bloggers and hosts of shows of any political orientation could die of hunger from lack of demand.
  6. svp67
    svp67 31 March 2018 07: 15
    +3
    Largely agree with the author.
    it’s worth taking just for scoundrels-alarmists.
    Some of them are “on a paycheck” and you can fight all of them. For this, it is necessary that the people TRUST the information that state structures disseminate. And here comes another problem. We do not have proper centralization in this matter and coherence. Any discrepancy in numbers, even technical, is perceived as an attempt to hide something. Accordingly, the State needs to make every effort in this matter and put things in order. And it will be very difficult to do. Losing confidence is easy, but getting it back is not easy.
    1. Mengad
      Mengad 31 March 2018 07: 55
      +5
      Dear? Well, the State has always deceived its people, "it has historically developed. Show me a country where the Government does not deceive, or does not hide something from its people? Do you probably naively think that Putin says what he says? He is actually a pawn in someone’s hands , they write him texts to say, he is told by prompters what to say, but people who are more attentive and sometimes get horrified by analytics with what Putin says, It’s not in vain after his speeches ... people ask themselves the question: What world does Putin live in? it’s just a lot of reality. And there is an explanation ... he is dictated what to say ... he speaks too fluently .. like in a pattern. Sorry but for me he’s a talking head who is whispered by the prompter what to say. PS Not bought I am the State Department.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 07: 59
        +9
        Quote: Mengad
        PS I was not bought by the State Department

        This is the only thing that is easy to believe. People like you, the State Department, are not needed for nothing. And not only the State Department.
        1. Romulus
          Romulus 31 March 2018 08: 16
          +1
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          And not only the State Department.

          NSA?
        2. Falcond
          Falcond 31 March 2018 10: 02
          +1
          And he needs you ???)
      2. svp67
        svp67 31 March 2018 08: 13
        +1
        Quote: Mengad
        texts are written to him what to say, prompters tell him what to say

        Well, why, it’s obvious where he "reads out" and where impromptu ... You want to say that he was "promoted" here too?
        Quote: Mengad
        people ask themselves: In what world does Putin live?

        If you do not know the answer, then I will answer you: "In real ..."
        Quote: Mengad
        PS I was not bought by the State Department.

        What does it have to do with it?
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        2. Romulus
          Romulus 31 March 2018 15: 24
          +1
          Quote: FalconD
          People who read this article

          Quote: FalconD
          People who read this article

          Hm, not a fact .. And you are right! hi It's time - the time for fools to finish on the site - crowed and even though the grass does not grow .. IN an analytical resource is a serious Internet media. Fig knows how to request VO cannot live in isolation from the rest of the paradigm - space, time .. Such authors as Bongo, Andrey from Chelyabinsk, Skomorokhov, Staver. (I'm sorry for the callsign) hi you won’t save enough, and Russia has always been strong with fools - all of us are fools and roads) (
          I've been biting me lately - if for Putin soldier - it’s sure that such a stupid comment - the carcasses of the light (Zaputinets - stupid) FUNNY FRIENDS .. bot Boris is where it is - on the site)) Propaganda is good but the search is Goebbelshchina
          Respect Website Visitors hi
          PS hello ban crying
        3. svp67
          svp67 31 March 2018 16: 07
          +1
          Quote: FalconD
          PS VO from a normal analytical resource has turned into a bunch of custom article writers and their populist fans!

          And judging by the fact that you are here, you are one of them ...
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  7. Tss012
    Tss012 31 March 2018 07: 44
    +8
    Which Kemerovo? Kemerovo and the point! The names of cities ending in "o" and so on are not inclined! Channel Russia in general is a disgrace to the whole country, showing the illiteracy of its employees.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 31 March 2018 10: 48
      -2
      A little drop in the piggy bank hatred of power?
      Well, of course, this is state TV, and it certainly only "disgraces". How can it tell the truth, how can you believe it?

      So?
      1. Tss012
        Tss012 31 March 2018 15: 44
        +1
        I have a normal attitude towards our government, and the first persons of the state, speaking on television, correctly pronounce the name of the city.
      2. Tss012
        Tss012 31 March 2018 15: 46
        +1
        It’s just a shame that some illiteracy is being broadcast throughout the country. They quickly forgot what they were taught at school.
      3. Tss012
        Tss012 31 March 2018 15: 51
        0
        I have a normal attitude towards power. The first persons of the state in their appearances on TV correctly pronounce the name of the city.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 31 March 2018 12: 55
      +1
      As far as I can remember, Kemerovo always bowed. In my childhood (the 50s) in Altai, Kemerovo radio was broadcast. There are exceptions in the Russian language, and at least you need to know about this. winked
      1. Tss012
        Tss012 31 March 2018 15: 41
        0
        Do you have friends for example in Oslo? You can’t say that your friends live in Donkey or your friends from Donkey?
        1. Falcond
          Falcond 31 March 2018 16: 45
          +1
          You can’t say that your friends live in Donkey or your friends from Donkey?

          Who like) Friends are different))
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 31 March 2018 07: 54
    +5
    How much meanness crawled out, how many reptiles underwater hissed, just wonder
    For the first time or what? As a tragedy, the carousel of “fighters with the regime”, “honest democrats”, “fighters for human rights” begins ... When the truth is revealed, they don’t care anymore, because they have already played their part by sowing distrust, panic. It will pass with impunity today, which means it will continue in the future with a vengeance. Abomination surfaced in the hole, supposedly "freedom of speech."
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 31 March 2018 10: 01
      +4
      Look at the blogs first, figure out which of them is who, and then talk here about the "fighters with the regime" !!!
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      2. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 31 March 2018 17: 42
        +1
        I am joining. The movie of Nemagia watched. Yes, at first they made fake records, but then they interviewed eyewitnesses in the streets near the fire site, showed the situation, videos from surveillance cameras. No? And they themselves said that the information is far from complete, they will monitor further.
  9. Mengad
    Mengad 31 March 2018 08: 03
    +7
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: Mengad
    PS I was not bought by the State Department

    This is the only thing that is easy to believe. People like you, the State Department, are not needed for nothing. And not only the State Department.

    It’s not necessary to be rude, if there’s something to say in essence? Then please .. I’m ready to discuss.
    1. Romulus
      Romulus 31 March 2018 08: 15
      +6
      Quote: Mengad
      . But rudeness is the destiny of weaklings.

      No, you won’t catch Jack, he doesn’t even respond to a piece of sausage) perhaps because he used to love fish lol
      brain to brain (intelligence to intelligence) ..
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 31 March 2018 08: 58
      +11
      Quote: Mengad
      But rudeness is the destiny of weaklings.

      Offended and humiliated. Rudeness, in such people, raises their self-esteem in their own eyes, compensates for their frustrations, and for some time relief arises. Then again over again. Golovan Jack can really be understood. A heavy lonely fate. His whole family is a dog and a cat. Resentment at the family that abandoned him. And in order to at least somehow pass the hard time, poor Jack is fighting all day with windmills here on the forum.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 09: 15
        +6
        Quote: Stas157
        to at least somehow pass the hard time, poor Jack is fighting all day with windmills here on the forum

        good laughing good
        Stas, I trudge with you at times fellow
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 31 March 2018 09: 21
          +10
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Stas, I trudge with you at times

          I know very well - you like my comments. You just do not miss them! Therefore, I try for you too. But, unfortunately, I do not have as much time to write as you have. But, I will try, albeit rarely but regularly.
      2. Romulus
        Romulus 31 March 2018 12: 10
        0
        Quote: Stas157
        Rudeness

        Stas, spit in my account - but I have been biting with Roma since I was 13 years old .. yes (they just called him differently) the star like those who do not agree with the beings (
        But I will allow you from the heights of the past years (excuse me for pathos), somehow without insults and personal identities I managed .. Although to tell you a secret all over the world) Kota Manulla would have killed)) Yes, and his dog too) hi
        1. Romulus
          Romulus 31 March 2018 12: 34
          0
          Roma - All To Feni is that you too?
    3. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 09: 17
      +5
      Quote: Mengad
      is there to say what is essentially? T

      But there is no "essence" there. This:
      Quote: Mengad
      What kind of world does Putin live in? He’s often just a little lazy from reality. And there is an explanation ... he is dictated what to say ... he speaks too fluently ... as in the pattern ...

      ... the essence of nonsense. What to discuss?
      Quote: Mengad
      rudeness destiny weaklings

      This is not for me. And, yes - where did you see rudeness there?
      The statement of fact is not rudeness request
  10. K.A.S.
    K.A.S. 31 March 2018 08: 06
    +6
    Dear Roman, bloggers need to be punished !, however, why do you demand this from the authorities and do not take measures against commentators at VO who have arranged a dance on the bones! And in the same way, they reported on hundreds of dead! These commentators, without understanding and not waiting for the conclusions of the commission and the investigation, began to accuse everyone of bribery and hang labels, claiming that the authorities will hide the reasons and the truth we will not find out! How do these ........ differ from the bloggers you described!
    Again, I want to draw your attention to the fact that your call may turn against you! For example, on the site it is customary among authors and commentators to scold the authorities by calling thieves killers and insult the president! If someone attracts the site and commentators? (But if something like this is written about Stalin or sternum, then you can get a ban) Now, on what basis did you insult Tuleev and the authorities calling them shit?
    Ready to answer in court for your words? Well, for example, tell Tuleyev, whose niece died, that he is crap?
    1. Romey
      Romey 31 March 2018 08: 51
      +6
      [
      Quote: K.A.S.
      Dear Roman, bloggers need to be punished !, however, why do you demand this from the authorities and do not take measures against commentators at VO who have arranged a dance on the bones! And in the same way, they reported on hundreds of dead! These commentators, without understanding and not waiting for the conclusions of the commission and the investigation, began to accuse everyone of bribery and hang labels, claiming that the authorities will hide the reasons and the truth we will not find out!

      Sorry, but what to do if your wholesale and retail authority has no confidence a priori and there’s nothing to blame if the face is crooked. Again ffse frete ?! Well, refute, work normally at last ... Here the whole city center watches with horror and hears the screams of unfortunate children a hundred meters from the building, and Kiselev at that time cheerfully with his cheeky impudent basque reports about 5 dead and continues to broadcast about his usual: Ukraine, Syria, America, etc. ... Isn't this the highest form of cynicism and schizophrenia of Putin’s propaganda? If the construction business is one of the most capacious in terms of corruption, then why would the authorities take these words with confidence on the move? I’m sure that if they really want to dig into “Winter Cherry” seriously, such a bouquet will come out and not only Tuleyev will be crap ... And our highly praised brainchild of Field Marshal Shoigu? Why are our PSCs still not equipped with modern means of saving people in high-rise buildings? And where did the rumors come from? Firstly, there were too many eyewitnesses, and secondly, the interception of walkie-talkies of the Ministry of Emergencies. There, only 49 + 30 passed through one cinema hall ... And then they immediately found the agents of the State Department and their e-ga ata ... In general, there are more questions than answers. And the most unpleasant thing is that it all resembles a chain of disasters between 1986 and 1988.
      1. K.A.S.
        K.A.S. 31 March 2018 10: 20
        +3
        You are probably very young, but in my youth I had to answer for the bazaar! So he said, answer: are you ready to answer for the fact that there were more victims? And if you’re not ready, then a spoon with a hole! You are such a typical navalnenok, picked up the stench, muddied the bushes !!!
        You ask what to do? Actually read the article !!! The article raises the question of what to do with callers who start gossip without checking the facts! It doesn’t depend on what kind of power our wholesale and retail will be or your deficit is prohibitive when all kinds of voices foreign spoke about incidents !!
        all your nonsense there is no desire to comment !!!
        1. Romey
          Romey April 1 2018 19: 35
          0
          Nonsense? No desire to comment ?! Nevertheless, we do it ... a typical Putinist is never responsible for his own words. I do not officially state how many victims are specific, but there are inconsistencies indicated by me and the reasons for which I do not trust official information. and yet, yes, about the bushes ... In addition to any Internet battles, I have enough business.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 31 March 2018 11: 35
      +5
      Quote: K.A.S.
      For example, on the site it is customary among authors and commentators to scold the authorities by calling thieves killers and insult the president!

      Kostya, you are at least a word
      Quote: K.A.S.
      presenter

      learn to write correctly, and then, too, for an insult can ride.
  11. Mengad
    Mengad 31 March 2018 08: 40
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Mengad
    texts are written to him what to say, prompters tell him what to say

    Well, why, it’s obvious where he "reads out" and where impromptu ... You want to say that he was "promoted" here too?
    Quote: Mengad
    people ask themselves: In what world does Putin live?

    If you do not know the answer, then I will answer you: "In real ..."
    Quote: Mengad
    PS I was not bought by the State Department.

    What does it have to do with it?

    His speech long ago ... there is nothing else to say ... specifics ... zero. He has enough of such appearances, he just needs to take a closer look.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 31 March 2018 10: 07
      +3
      Quote: Mengad
      His speech long ago ... there is nothing else to say ... specifics ... zero. He has enough of such performances, you just need to take a closer look

      Well, I’ve caught Putin.
      But seriously, then "what is your evidence."
      If this is the only one for so many years - not funny.
      Even somehow uncomfortable becomes for you.
  12. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 31 March 2018 08: 41
    +7
    Yes, the power in Kemerovo turned out to be crap. From the governor Tuleyev to those whom he will dismiss now. Judging by the shooting with Putin, in Kemerovo, only the prosecutor is sane. The rest can only memekat, and even then not very clearly.
    Roman, and who is to blame for this? After all, local authority is a continuation of federal authority. After all, the local government operates within the framework of the system created by the federal government. If they take bribes at the top, will the well-known nouveau riche people not be doing this? If at the top no one is personally responsible for anything, will they really want to?
    Questions Roman as you understand rhetorical! And according to the article, those freaks that you listed at least need to be punished criminally, but only this will not be done!
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 31 March 2018 10: 08
      +5
      Look at the bloggers, then discuss who should be criminally punished! With your approach, half of the commentators with VO must also be punished! And who should punish ?? According to your logic - "crappy power, which is a continuation of federal power" ??? This power should punish bloggers who tried to find the truth in the flow of information ???
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 31 March 2018 10: 11
        0
        Dmitry, first read my comment carefully and note that the first part is copied from the article, and then argue wink Or are you here for the crowd?
        1. Falcond
          Falcond 31 March 2018 11: 28
          +2
          Learn to insert a quote ...
          And secondly, I pointed out the lack of formal logic in your post!
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 31 March 2018 16: 53
            0
            smile Formalist? That is, if something is not highlighted for you in a special font, you don’t see it? And do not get into the essence of the post? Have you definitely read the article?
  13. Clueless
    Clueless 31 March 2018 08: 44
    +7
    Nemagia, unlike the author, lives and works in Kemerovo. Were you there at the time of the tragedy? I was there, everything is in Kemerovo, seething, because the local authorities have a very low confidence rating. So they, unlike many, have the right to talk about what was happening there. Moreover, they always say by the way - that the data must be checked, but at that moment in time, there was complete chaos!
    So the paws were removed from Nemagia, unlike the author of the empty bell, these people do a lot of useful things to people, and try to make the world a better place, at least a little, but better.
    And how strange it was, when Nemagia bent Tinkov (they admitted that Petrovka 38 violated the law and had no right to go to Kemerovo), and immediately a new wave of materials went against these guys. @Coincidence? Don't think
    1. BAI
      BAI 31 March 2018 09: 05
      0
      for the local government has a very low confidence rating.

      All local elected leading officials (including the mayor and Tuleyev) nonetheless collected 80 - 90% of the vote.
      1. Falcond
        Falcond 31 March 2018 10: 10
        +7
        All local elected leading officials (including the mayor and Tuleyev) nonetheless collected 80 - 90% of the vote.

        And not by accident?
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 31 March 2018 10: 14
      +2
      Quote: Bad
      So the paws were removed from Nemagia, unlike the author of the empty bell, these people do a lot of useful things to people, and try to make the world a better place, at least a little, but better.

      Really. Well, a panic fanned. Just think, they are not the only ones.
      Well, think about it, there wasn’t enough courage to admit that you were wrong. It happens to everyone?
      All the same, from a million subscribers it will not decrease.
      Not only that, many will rush to the defense: paws off!
      And the fact that they are legally equivalent to the media and should be responsible for the information, so this does not apply to non-magic. They are so funny interesting guys, just cute. An unflattering approach cannot be applied to them.

      And somehow strange, what does Tinkov have to do with it?
      Did he make them pronounce what was said?
    3. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 31 March 2018 17: 47
      +3
      Quote: Bad
      So the paws were removed from Nemagia, unlike the author of the empty bell, these people do a lot of useful things to people, and try to make the world a better place, at least a little, but better.

      Absolutely agree. Oh, they check the information. Plus, the Kemerovo residents themselves, they are definitely more in the know.
  14. BAI
    BAI 31 March 2018 09: 00
    +1
    Under current law it is impossible to attract. And to develop an appropriate working, competent law - the deputies have neither desire nor calcification (the topic is very complicated). Dead end.
  15. Altona
    Altona 31 March 2018 09: 27
    +4
    In no case do I condone the data of the bloggers mentioned in the article. But why should they be punished, and Echo of Moscow, Lenta.ru, Medusa, Radio Liberty, and a whole regiment of other liberal publications with the same information are not needed? I am against such selectivity and "peers broader and deeper" ...
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 31 March 2018 11: 06
      -1
      Why not? It is also necessary.
      These are all big companies, there are a lot of people.
      But bloggers are just specific individuals. And if one of them dances in the blood, then he can fly without the law, from caring citizens.
  16. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 31 March 2018 09: 27
    +3
    The author forgot to write the word "shoot" in the first sentence of the title of his article ..... winked
  17. Falcond
    Falcond 31 March 2018 09: 33
    +9
    Lord! And many of you have watched the blogs in question ???? I am sure that a good half of you do not know who they are talking about! Personally, when this noise about bloggers started, I looked not all, but almost all !!! Of the obvious kov, it’s exactly Kamikaze Di ... this is only given to shout and slander !!! Dvizhnov did not particularly understand the question ... then he apologized! Nemagia and Sobolev did not say anything at all ... they just stated the fact that there were rumors on the Internet about hundreds of dead, indicating that the info was not confirmed! Nemangia generally gathered at the place of events Old !!! And which of you did not succumb to the idea that there may be more victims than they say officially ??? It is necessary to deal with those who yelled in the square ... that same doctor!
    That there are no other problems, how to deal with bloggers ??? Correctly, Sobolev said that they simply divert public attention, and the real reason for the tragedy is corruption!
    And by the way, the guys turned off the monetization, they didn’t earn money on blood!
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 31 March 2018 11: 07
      -1
      Well, that’s it, now they’re definitely handsome. We were afraid that they would not make money, but they were lousy - they just poured shit into our heads, disinterestedly.
      1. Falcond
        Falcond 31 March 2018 13: 23
        +4
        And Solovyov from the first shit for our money pours into your head!
  18. Mengad
    Mengad 31 March 2018 09: 34
    +2
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    But there is no "essence" there. This:

    You will deny that the Rulers use prompters and tips? You will not deny that often in the Government, advisers often play a decisive role in making certain decisions that affect the policy of the State and its people? Someone whispered ... and the head of state announced this to the people ... who, having made an idol out of him ... often does not notice how he is led by the nose. If you are pleased when you are being deceived, then this is your business, but you should not think that everyone should like it.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 31 March 2018 10: 00
      +8
      “The targeted social protection system should not be based on the subsistence minimum, but on the consumer budget,” said Tatyana Golikova, chairman of the Audit Chamber, at a meeting of the Ministry of Finance yesterday. Earlier, economists from the Kudrin team proposed eliminating the cost of living so that the authorities could save money by refusing to pay pensions and benefits for those whose relatives own a car or keep livestock - rabbits, chickens or horses. Now citizens with incomes below the subsistence level will be declared rich and unnecessary if their families have excess property. "
      http://www.ng.ru/economics/2018-03-28/1_7199_goli
      kova.html

      You see, the "fight against poverty" has already begun .. wink As the President and "promised" ....... lol But it’s not interesting to “discuss,” is it? it’s much more interesting to print denunciatory articles on those who “didn’t vote” correctly “or insufficiently expressed“ sympathy ”and“ grief "....
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 31 March 2018 11: 10
        -1
        The corresponding decision has already been made, or Novaya Gazeta said, but someone else told her?
        Congratulations on the arrival in the clan of fake distributors about whom the article is.
    2. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 31 March 2018 10: 03
      +5
      Do rulers use prompters and clues?
      I will not say how the “rulers", but personally you sing with someone else's voice. You even use the discussion of the article about slander in the tragedy to cool the president. A few comments and all against the president. Today probably "honestly" fulfilled their task?
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 31 March 2018 11: 12
        0
        And they really work. In all branches, full day. Even on weekends.
        Sons of officers.
  19. groks
    groks 31 March 2018 10: 09
    +3
    Why write about the obvious?
    But the author does not want to find and crush those who are guilty of these events? Oligarchs, bribe-takers? After all, if it were not for them, then the enemies had no reason (and who were they if not the enemies?), All this was not to whirl.
    I do not want the author to crush those who convince that this is almost an accident and these oligarchs and bribes are not to blame? After all, if they lull again, then the next time there will be victims again and again the enemies will come out with their hatred.
    Ambiguous character Semin. But he wrote "Capitalism Kills." And immediately they shouted that there was no need to rock the boat. Yes, shake out all the parasites from the boat and no one will swing.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 31 March 2018 11: 14
      -2
      Here is someone cheating on the porch. And someone wrote about him. in order to attract the attention of citizens.
      But people like you need to stop doing this. Because this shamer is not your fault, but the power is to blame, about which in this case it is necessary to write.
      And immediately they shouted that there was no need to rock the boat. Yes, shake out all the parasites from the boat and no one will swing.

      We ourselves are this "boat." Therefore, to shake, the more it doesn’t work out right away - it’ll drown.
      Only slowly, with the replacement of individual structural elements.
      1. groks
        groks 31 March 2018 14: 01
        +4
        In this analogy, the shamer = oligarch / official. Or is someone else to blame for the tragedy? There will always be someone who will rejoice at someone else's death, there will always be someone on this PR. Probably it will be seditious for the patriots of the oligarchy, but in all these cases the government is promoting. Led by the guarantor. Which heroically overcomes that she has wooed herself.
        There are no less parasites in the boat; there are more of them. The boat may not sink at all from rocking.
        Total The author of the article suggests treating not the disease, but fighting the consequences. Fight heroically. Yes, do not care that pneumonia, it is necessary to give the ACC, so as not to cough. The next time something falls apart or burns out. And it will surely fail. There will be regular scumbags, the author will write an angry article again. What did Stalin ask in such cases?
        Maybe the author goes to the parents of the deceased children and says that they have nothing to worry about - he already wrote an article?
  20. Mengad
    Mengad 31 March 2018 10: 16
    +3
    Guys? Who knows where the 4 minutes of the cut-out video from the surveillance camera disappeared in the shopping center Winter Cherry? They were shown to the public? There are a lot of ambiguities ... these are the cover-ups that give rise to rumors ... Well, the speech of Mr. ... Vestrikov before the rally in Kemerovo, and after .. also raises many questions.
  21. Mengad
    Mengad 31 March 2018 10: 37
    +7
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Do rulers use prompters and clues?
    I will not say how the “rulers", but personally you sing with someone else's voice. You even use the discussion of the article about slander in the tragedy to cool the president. A few comments and all against the president. Today probably "honestly" fulfilled their task?

    Yes, you’re probably right. I built a system where ... money prevails over conscience ..? Where big business can be written as small, and in such a way to avoid fire checks. Sales fire inspectors are also western influences? Open your eyes too? And how much are such shopping centers still in Russia? Is it my fault? The liberals and the United States are to blame? Who has built this power vertical? Of such people, to whom the law is not written?
  22. Mengad
    Mengad 31 March 2018 10: 48
    +4
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Do rulers use prompters and clues?
    I will not say how the “rulers", but personally you sing with someone else's voice. You even use the discussion of the article about slander in the tragedy to cool the president. A few comments and all against the president. Today probably "honestly" fulfilled their task?

    Do you know the difference between your worldview and mine? For you, the Motherland is the leader. And your idol ... for me, the Motherland is Mom, and she is my idol .. my Motherland begins at the doorstep of my house .. and my Mother ... and for them I will fight ... Peace to your home, and sanity to you. All the best to you.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 11: 00
      +9
      And no one forbids you to "beat on the threshold of your own home."
      Only here you are for the most part pushing black rubbish for some reason.
      For which at times you will also rake and rake.
      And beat ... yes beat, at least 7/24 request
  23. Fox
    Fox 31 March 2018 10: 58
    +5
    Rum, but why not write about the nephew of the deputy defense minister ... which some in the ass are ready to kiss to death on VO.https: //info-kuhny.ru/blog/43038719176/Uslovny
    iy-srok-za-hischenie-1-mlrd-rubley? utm_campaign = t
    ransit & utm_source = main & utm_medium = page_0 &
    amp; domain = mirtesen.ru & paid = 1 & pad = 1
    or is it not so interesting? But do you believe about those who died in Syria, too, mache-on-louboutin? Didn’t you have your friends there? Or does the notorious “subscription” not give?
    if the power ceases to lie (which I don’t believe in anything), there will be no faith in those bloggers from Ukraine.
  24. Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx 31 March 2018 11: 02
    +6
    This is called shifting the problem from the sore head to somewhere there.
    The first individual who deliberately called called deceived cattle, of course, he has motives (although he is not justified by anything).
    I personally do not watch the described bloggers. But you know what? People are bloggers and any other, everyone had doubts about the veracity of the information transmitted. And these people voiced thoughts in the wake of distrust in the public authorities, unconfirmed information. I do not think that intentionally, at least some but they have brains, since they have an audience. They are not the suicides of their career, they are people, hurried up, made a mistake. Living in Russia and deliberately doing this, I don’t think, is too low and they most likely understood the consequences.
    But now when I see the persecution against them, when all the federal mass media of the Russian Federation, all the puppets of power are blaming them on them, I even feel sorry for them. There are guilty parties who need to focus on them, write fines, etc. as a lesson. But what do we see? All the dogs are let down on them, because the power was shaken by one rally?
    If there is mistrust, then somewhere there is a problem, there is no smoke without fire, gentlemen do not believe you TV men.
  25. Hlavaty
    Hlavaty 31 March 2018 11: 55
    +4
    P.S. Protect children from these ... From the first point to the last.

    How to protect ????
    If the state with its repressive apparatus cannot do anything with these ..., then as an ordinary ordinary citizen can withstand it ... Not only are there many of them (that is, even martial arts fail), so they are also fueled "with the other side of the barricade. "
    In general, a thought constantly arises that must be constantly asked to all deputies, officials and other public servants: If the state is so powerless, then why is it needed at all?
    If the state collects taxes from us, then what do we get in return? Corruption and crime?
    What is the meaning of the existence of the state?
    In order to provide citizens with decent conditions in which they can safely and fully live: continue their family, raise their children and grandchildren, provide for their families, maintain their health and develop in a personal and social plan. If this is not so, then why is the state needed?
  26. Mengad
    Mengad 31 March 2018 12: 29
    +3
    Quote: samarin1969
    "They will be fined for not having written for the thousandth time that ISIS is banned in the Russian Federation. And the nonsense-bloggers are below their dignity." ... They will not be touched. They have their own role - to portray the opposition and "do not run for the flags." "WORK" is necessary - I agree. .... And there would be a country in which bloggers and hosts of shows of any political orientation could die of hunger from lack of demand.

    Dear? They don’t understand this. Sobolev alone has more than 4 million subscribers ... and assuming that YouTube actually replaces GosZombiKanaly .. then the special services are not fools, and with analytical thinking. And they understand that with so many subscribers the channels must be kept in check. Such bloggers have long been made an offer which they could not refuse ... Divide and Conquer ... Here people sit and quarrel on such platforms.
  27. Clueless
    Clueless 31 March 2018 12: 36
    +1
    Quote: BAI
    for the local government has a very low confidence rating.

    All local elected leading officials (including the mayor and Tuleyev) nonetheless collected 80 - 90% of the vote.

    Maybe 200 right away? Not that the governor is appointed position :)))
  28. Radikal
    Radikal 31 March 2018 12: 40
    +6
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: Golovan Jack

    Staseg, you are definitely an engineer?

    At least you can absolutely say for certain that you are Kisa - a boor. Good morning! Relieved of you!

    There is nothing you can do about it, it’s just "rushing" from the realization of its own "genius", so it flirts like those characters with "lowered social responsibility" (I ask you not to strain the admins - quote from the Guarantor wassat), they say "bored" to me here with you! That's right, he’s not here - he’s in the Federation Council, or in the State Duma, they will appreciate his “intelligence” there, he is with them of the same clan and tribe in terms of this notorious IQ! wink hi
  29. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 31 March 2018 13: 10
    +4
    I have only two questions for the author: "Why is the screen saver with the type in the bathrobe with earflaps with a red star chosen? Does the author have any facts of meanness about the tragedy from the Communists?"
    1. groks
      groks 31 March 2018 14: 07
      +4
      All patriots of the oligarchy must at least somehow spit on the USSR. Though in such a trifle. This is their password.
  30. 501Legion
    501Legion 31 March 2018 14: 39
    +1
    I wrote all this mud ... m and poked complaints. especially Nemagia and Sobolev. the real ones. you need to ask them very much. introduce punishment for bloggers like misinformation and so on
  31. akudr48
    akudr48 31 March 2018 14: 44
    +2
    The author in this publication is an investigator, prosecutor and judge in one person.

    It’s a pity that the function of the jailer was missed, the author somehow unclearly determined the fate of the enemies of the people from the blogger breed, but "you won’t have to count on Roskomnadzor". Bloggers are a true plague, worse than any traitors and corrupt officials, thieves and international oligarchs with their $$$ billions withdrawn ...

    Therefore, he himself has to identify, find, weigh and so far only signal, not counting on the authorized bodies, clean up here for everyone, and the enemies are not asleep, everyone is rocking, undermining the foundations.

    You will have to bring justice to the Internet, alone, with your sinewy hand cracking down on enemies (enemies!), Using, browser, sofa and beer. After all "in Kemerovo, only the prosecutor is sane. The rest can only memekat, and even that is not very intelligible."

    Although this is already a lot, because when there is 1 sane prosecutor + 1 sane author this is an authorized trio, which is enough to identify the enemy, open a case, investigate, judge, pronounce a sentence and execute it. Immediately.

    And to report on the activities to whom should be.

    Hard, not easy, but the victory will be ours!
  32. Radikal
    Radikal 31 March 2018 14: 49
    +2
    Quote: rotmistr60
    How much meanness crawled out, how many reptiles underwater hissed, just wonder
    For the first time or what? As a tragedy, the carousel of “fighters with the regime”, “honest democrats”, “fighters for human rights” begins ... When the truth is revealed, they don’t care anymore, because they have already played their part by sowing distrust, panic. It will pass with impunity today, which means it will continue in the future with a vengeance. Abomination surfaced in the hole, supposedly "freedom of speech."

    And who are the democrats here? belay wassat
  33. Giharka
    Giharka 31 March 2018 15: 15
    +1
    It is just necessary to introduce a criminal (and not administrative) punishment for such provocations! I hope our deputies are already working on this!
  34. komis55
    komis55 31 March 2018 15: 17
    +1
    Yes, it’s easy to blame the organization of mass psychosis for experiments.
  35. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 31 March 2018 15: 44
    0
    Ivanova need to put at least second place, it is generally rare.
    Sobolev, apparently, was dragged by the ears — a special mockery in his text (then deleted) I did not find
  36. naidas
    naidas 31 March 2018 16: 00
    0
    Trump called the “fakes” media publications and can do nothing more.
  37. Vladimir Perelomov
    Vladimir Perelomov 31 March 2018 16: 16
    +2
    Dear editors, if you yourself had not been promoted on someone else’s blood, then there would have been nothing to write about. Absolutely tendentious, propaganda site.
    Go back to normal journalistic activities.
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  39. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 31 March 2018 16: 22
    +1
    Provocation No. 1 was in Volokolamsk. With a dog’s participation. With a coarse-grained, well-trained schoolgirl poking at the face of power with a threatening finger - and someone had a tear-canister protested at a local school. For someone gathered and "warmed up" a crowd of parents, long outraged by the near stinking dump and the inaction of local authorities. After all, they did an all-Russian drama with fifty poisoned children, of which they were hospitalized locally to secure THREE. COMPLETED AND VIDEO DOCUMENTS CALCULATED EXTERNAL “HEATERS” CALCULATED. So what? The authorities engaged exclusively in public self-flagellation. The organizers of the MASS PROVOCATION went unpunished and did a nice job of provocation # 2 - organizing and “warming up” the crowd of thousands in Kemerovo. Well? Let's wait, when they nevertheless manage to “kindle the Maidan” somewhere? Like after the provocative murder of Nemtsov by the Kremlin, clearly ORDERED FROM OUTSIDE ... Who would doubt that such a dirty thing is being prepared for the 2018 World Cup with the participation of multinational warmed crowds ORGANIZED BY SOMETHING Fans? Are we blind? Hybrid war not see? You don’t see - turn on our main channels with live broadcasts ... So who will find the council on them?
    1. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 31 March 2018 18: 31
      0
      in Volokolamsk, I generally liked the “spontaneous action” with posters, banners and other attributes of a planned provocation, as soon as I saw the video, I said that “there is probably someone putting texts on the sheets on the sheets and forward them”
  40. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 31 March 2018 16: 40
    0
    This is just a hole in our state security system! During the WWII, the Nazis, led by Goebbels and Himler, attached tremendous importance to the moral undermining of not only the army, but also the civilian population, perfectly understanding the role of rumors, gossip, slander and outright lies. The leadership of the country then understood that, in addition to counter-propaganda, severe penalties were also applied! And today the country is mired in smelly liberalism! Many "wise men" are pretending, or not at all in the subject, that irresponsible freedom of speech is a terrible weapon! Events in Kemerovo have once again shown this clearly! Russia with these pseudo-freedoms on the hook at the West, and he uses it in full! It's time for the security officers to wake up already! And then they collected a bouquet-Ministry of Emergencies, Rosporebnadzor, officials, etc., and where are these? Something is not visible, that someone took them for a zugunder! This is their serious puncture!
  41. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 31 March 2018 16: 41
    0
    Quote: Sergey_I
    Mercenary is prohibited in the Russian Federation.
    Which of the Russian mercenaries planted?

    Saw off topic! Also a demoman?
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  42. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 31 March 2018 16: 45
    0
    Quote: akudr48
    The author in this publication is an investigator, prosecutor and judge in one person.

    It’s a pity that the function of the jailer was missed, the author somehow unclearly determined the fate of the enemies of the people from the blogger breed, but "you won’t have to count on Roskomnadzor". Bloggers are a true plague, worse than any traitors and corrupt officials, thieves and international oligarchs with their $$$ billions withdrawn ...

    Therefore, he himself has to identify, find, weigh and so far only signal, not counting on the authorized bodies, clean up here for everyone, and the enemies are not asleep, everyone is rocking, undermining the foundations.

    You will have to bring justice to the Internet, alone, with your sinewy hand cracking down on enemies (enemies!), Using, browser, sofa and beer. After all "in Kemerovo, only the prosecutor is sane. The rest can only memekat, and even that is not very intelligible."

    Although this is already a lot, because when there is 1 sane prosecutor + 1 sane author this is an authorized trio, which is enough to identify the enemy, open a case, investigate, judge, pronounce a sentence and execute it. Immediately.

    And to report on the activities to whom should be.

    Hard, not easy, but the victory will be ours!

    I forgot about the executioner! Decided to try handicraft business?
  43. NordOst16
    NordOst16 31 March 2018 17: 02
    +3
    Again the question to the author, how to guarantee that the cleaning of the "brown slurry" does not turn into a cleaning of all those who disagree? For example, information about corruption and so on?
    I think the people themselves must understand what is true and what is a lie and certainly here the help of the state is not needed. Well, you need to increase the trust and authority of the authorities, but how can you trust officials who contain their money and offspring over the hill?
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 31 March 2018 17: 24
      +4
      And, except for the “repression” and “reincarnation of the Gulag”, the “Kremlin bots” have not enough imagination. ....
  44. Sergei3
    Sergei3 31 March 2018 18: 06
    +3
    Accurately stigmatize, plant, wipe into camp dust !!! In 1941, the same as they scared our first friend Germany, the enemy of British imperialism, would attack ... and whom against his ally! Another thing was zealous zampotech, requiring for the safety of equipment to remove the tanks from the tracks, and so as not to rust the people's good, or not giving out kerosene to the pilots ... It’s not these who’s to blame,
    like government officials who turn a blind eye to the fact that the building did not pass the examination, like other people who shout that their father had lost his entire family, he is publicizing in the square ....
    People!!! Wake up there is a limit to sacrilege !!! Let the Ukrainian pranker answer to conscience and to God for being a bastard. But those who turned a blind eye to violations of all norms, who signed or did not check fire safety standards ... they are dangerous to all of us and not in the internet, like prankers from Ukraine, but in every shopping center and movie theater !!!
  45. Victor Zubkov
    Victor Zubkov 31 March 2018 18: 06
    +1
    A blog is not a media. People could be in shock, they could just be mistaken. Yes, there may be typos in the media. It seems to me that Roskomnadzor is working too well. It closes many sites very quickly. By the way, many media often write inaccurate information and, as I understand it, do not think to refute it. For example, as I understand it, A. Chubais in an interview with TASS said: "with Vladimir Yevtushenkov (the main owner of AFK Sistema") we built the Mikron plant, which is now the flagship of Russian electronics "(More on TASS:
    http://tass.ru/opinions/interviews/4431259 ). Хотя заводу "Ангстрем" более 40 лет. Я, насколько помню, написал об этом в ТАСС, но ответа не получил и опровержения нигде не видел.
  46. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 31 March 2018 18: 28
    0
    There are few free cattle, it’s necessary to bring him to us and condemn him in all severity, I feel sorry for him alone: ​​his brother wrote that they had not seen each other for 30 years (they have been living in different families since childhood), they do not communicate, he himself sharply condemns Volnov-Kuvikov , he calls him about our epithets, but those who know that he is related to this bastard took up arms against him ...
    Nemagia - these two bodies used to be engaged in khikhanki and khahanki, then from a certain moment (the conflict with Tinkov) they raised the banner of truth-seekers, fighters for freedom of speech and became the owners of a “chip of justice” - this did not last long: they deceived this culinary blogger ( Borsch) with advertising, they were smashed ... for a long time there was a silence and then a fire ..
    and they, owners of more than two million people, are carrying game about more than 170 burned down ... many of them spoke very strongly of course, including me ...
    but they could, like the Kemerovo residents, really conduct any kind of investigation or somehow help the victims who were feasible: to attract the Kemerovo public to donate blood or skin (at least when I served for the victims of the fire who were admitted to the hospital with other wounds two flaps of skin from the front of the thighs - it doesn’t hurt, then it just tweaks hard, but the boys had help) - that would be an ACTION.
    and what all these bloggers did was dance on the bones, ordinary highpozhory
    This tragedy for top YouTube bloggers has become a litmus test, maybe someone from their audience will conclude for themselves - it’s already good. but it’s necessary to somehow make them responsible for this, they, these bloggers, were fighters for the “consolidated Internet”, against all identifications, while they themselves create a situation in which it will be simply necessary.
    in general, I personally do not mind it will be less inadequate
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  48. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 31 March 2018 20: 20
    +1
    As for the Kemerovo tragedy: any distortion of facts simply cuts alive. But for most bloggers, exaggeration, distortion, hysteria and falsehood are commonplace. Because you are trying to turn to official information, but there, too, there were all the signs of concealing the scale of the tragedy. I always say: if you want to make the most objective opinion, look for the information right away, until it has become overgrown with gossip and manipulation has begun. Official sources tried to veil the scale of the tragedy, which served as an impetus to inflate. It was immediately known that there was a whole class in the cinema, and this was not a few people. What was worth only one phrase, "we checked all the rooms", while the cinema halls no longer existed like everyone who was there.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 31 March 2018 20: 35
      +1
      Well, “some gentlemen” will not understand in any way that the phrase: “she drowned ...” completely changed the attitude of part of the people (and not a small one) both towards the government and the fact that it broadcasts through media controlled by it ... .
  49. tank64rus
    tank64rus 31 March 2018 20: 28
    +2
    What dignity alarmists and traitors frolic in full. During the war, saboteurs, spies, traitors and alarmists all went on the same list. In our country, bureaucrats all live in the hope that everything will be formed. The West will again accept them in its penises. They will rest in the Canaries and go on a shift to Russia. Therefore, why annoy the proteges of the West here in Russia. Suddenly there they will add to the black list, and then suddenly everything will return to square one. An example of a boy from Urengoy was not forgotten. Here it is.
  50. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 31 March 2018 20: 29
    +4
    free
    Quote: free
    smoke, smoke, when the tree still burns without the apparatus, you can walk if it doesn’t smoke a lot (carbon dioxide, by the way) and nothing happens if you just hurt your head a little and if you swallow it a little more. But here are plastics, mineral wool-type insulation and like if only you breathe in a little bit you will not be able to restrain coughing and you will still breathe in coughing.

    Listen ... those. Here what for me to read the alphabet? I know all this, from life ... I've been living for a long time, I'm used to it already.
    As for the "tree is burning" - find, I beg you, I’m building in the city using only wood... tire of swallowing dust.
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    Sorry for the insults, you brought me

    God ... sorry. And as for "brought" - many here try to "bring" me, but few people get it.
    Do not go ... those are under the arrow, and you will be happy (s) yes
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      smoke, smoke, when the tree still burns without the apparatus, you can walk if it doesn’t smoke a lot (carbon dioxide, by the way) and nothing happens if you just hurt your head a little and if you swallow it a little more. But here are plastics, mineral wool-type insulation and like if only you breathe in a little bit you will not be able to restrain coughing and you will still breathe in coughing.

      Listen ... those. Here what for me to read the alphabet? I know all this, from life ... I've been living for a long time, I'm used to it already.
      As for the "tree is burning" - find, I beg you, I’m building in the city using only wood... tire of swallowing dust.
      Quote: free
      Sorry for the insults, you brought me

      God ... sorry. And as for "brought" - many here try to "bring" me, but few people get it.
      Do not go ... those are under the arrow, and you will be happy (s) yes

      You will probably be surprised, but there are enough such objects. Almost every major city has its own private sector, and as a rule it is full of old, not rich, wooden houses in which there is very little plastic. But it didn’t start from this, but from that that in the pursuit of profit very often violate the PPR of the Russian Federation (the rules of the fire regime in the Russian Federation), and not only regarding the use of materials.