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What about the crew of the Russian fishing vessel Nord detained by Ukraine?

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Information appeared on where the Russian fishing vessel "Nord" is located, as well as on the status of the crew. Recall that the fishing vessel was detained in the neutral waters of the Azov Sea by Ukrainian border guards. The captain of the fishing vessel was announced that he and the whole team had violated Ukrainian legislation by the fact that they called at the ports of Crimea without agreement with Kiev. At the same time, "Nord" is assigned to one of the Kerch fish collective farms.


The captain of the vessel, Vladimir Gorbenko, reported that the Nord was escorted to Berdyansk, and the representatives of the crew hoped that "they would not be forgotten."

What about the crew of the Russian fishing vessel Nord detained by Ukraine?


RIA News quoted by Vladimir Gorbenko:
At the moment, our vessel with a crew of ten people is under arrest in the port of Berdyansk near the pier. I want to say hello to relatives, to say that they do not worry, everyone here is alive and healthy. We, as citizens of the Russian Federation, hope and believe that they will not forget about us and help us return home to our families.


Crew members are not allowed to leave the ship. At the same time, the supply of food and drinking water on the "Nord" remained a maximum of 4 days. It should be noted that on the ship after a few days the refrigeration units will be turned off, cooling the catch with a total weight of about 5,7 tons. The Ukrainian side has not yet given permission to connect the vessel to the power grid of Berdyansk.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 28 March 2018 19: 54
    +67
    Recall that the fishing schooner was detained in the neutral waters of the Sea of ​​Azov by Ukrainian border guards

    And where were the ships of our Black Sea Fleet at that moment? In neutral waters, a Ukrainian trough detains our ship ... where were our RTOs vaunted, Varshavyanki, border ships?
    And now they write, the fate of our sailors. What fate is it, if you stupidly cannot protect your ships in neutral waters?
    1. svp67
      svp67 28 March 2018 20: 00
      +23
      Quote: NEXUS
      In neutral waters, a Ukrainian trough detains our ship ... where were our RTOs vaunted, Varshavyanki, border ships?

      In the Sea of ​​Azov, it’s kind of hard for Varshavyanka to operate, it’s the thing for the Raptors and the like ...
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 28 March 2018 20: 02
        +7
        Quote: svp67
        In the Sea of ​​Azov, it’s kind of hard for Varshavyanka to operate, it’s the thing for the Raptors and the like ...

        At Varshavyanka, if anything, there are also calibers in the RCC variant, so they could also look from the Russian Sea ...
        Quote: 210ox
        Where is Andrei? How to say, they probably tracked down that there is no one around. We need to drown pirates. But seriously, everyone is busy with Syria and there isn’t enough strength. I think so

        Dmitry, are border guards busy with our Syria too?
        1. svp67
          svp67 28 March 2018 20: 07
          +21
          Quote: NEXUS
          At Varshavyanka, if anything, there are also calibers in the RCC variant, so they could also look from the Russian Sea ...

          You are going to "caliber" these "chovny" drown?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 28 March 2018 20: 10
            +3
            Quote: svp67
            You are going to "caliber" these "chovny" drown?

            No, of course ... I'm talking about RCC, I meant that something more from the Ukrainian Black Sea Fleet did not come up somewhere nearby. And these pelvis and Raptor are able to drive.
            1. svp67
              svp67 28 March 2018 20: 19
              +14
              Quote: NEXUS
              meant that something more from the Ukrainian Black Sea Fleet

              They do not have a Black Sea Fleet, there they have all the Navy ...
              Quote: NEXUS
              And these pelvis and Raptor are able to drive.

              And it was on it that the “prikordonniki” intercepted our trawler, it’s good that only on one, since if there were more of them, they would have intercepted our entire “caravan”. And I completely agree with you that I would like to understand, but how did it happen that our ships were there without cover? Where were our ships and aircraft?
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 28 March 2018 20: 25
                +4
                Quote: svp67
                And it was on it that the “prikordonniki” intercepted our trawler, it’s good that only on one, since if there were more of them, they would have intercepted our entire “caravan”.

                In the context of “where was our Black Sea Fleet,” I wrote for a simple reason, it very much resembles the seizures of Somali pirates by ships.
                And if someone forgot, then Peter the Great even sent TARC to those waters.
                According to RIA Novosti, on February 13, 2009, the cruiser detained 3 ships of Somali pirates in the Gulf of Aden.

                Quote: svp67
                Gdk were our ships and aircraft?

                They say that they were engaged in Syria, apparently together with the entire border service.
              2. Orionvit
                Orionvit 28 March 2018 22: 06
                +10
                Quote: svp67
                Gdk were our ships and aircraft?

                And where were the strategic missile forces, along with the satellite constellation?
                1. svp67
                  svp67 29 March 2018 03: 49
                  0
                  Quote: Orionvit
                  And where were the strategic missile forces, along with the satellite constellation?

                  A good, “worthy” answer, that’s why now we’ll puzzle how to save people ...
              3. udincev
                udincev 28 March 2018 23: 40
                +1
                Quote: svp67
                how did it happen that our ships were there without cover? Gdk were our ships and aircraft?

                God gave the managers to the neighbors ... Fucking provocateurs. Scraping ...
            2. FIFA from Cardiff
              FIFA from Cardiff 29 March 2018 04: 08
              +5
              Okay, it’s good to make people laugh. But in fact, it’s time to send the Ukrainians the answer, of course you don’t need to drown anyone, but for example, confiscate ships going to and from the ports of Ukraine with cargo from and to Ukraine as part of, for example, securing legal claims (urgently filed in the Crimean courts in hindsight) Crimeans to the Ukrainian banks who threw them with the dough, well, and begin to inspect the ships, arrange a 100 pood shmon with the team placing a snout in the deck so that there are no people who want to go to this plague hut 404 on ships.
              But the Khokhlyatsky mosquito fleet needs to be done easier instead of spending tons of fuel to search and chase, this inflatable one needs to be burned and drowned at night at their Khokhlyatsk marinas, you can tear off the pier at night, so that there wouldn’t be anyone who wants to go to the border guards
              1. StVahmistr
                StVahmistr 29 March 2018 09: 46
                0
                but for example, confiscate ships going to and from ports of Ukraine with cargo from and to Ukraine

                I ran away .... This is possible for them, but we cannot. No matter what happens ...
                Ё! "No.;% :? b!
          2. Kosya Queen
            Kosya Queen 28 March 2018 21: 00
            +4
            SPV67 20.07
            Wow, dance. Odessa, a practical harbor. Near the checkpoint MCHPV. Ah, nostalgia, how young we were, thumped vodka from the neck to the very bottom ....
            1. Antares
              Antares 28 March 2018 21: 50
              +2
              Quote: Scythe Queen
              Odessa, practical harbor

              she is the most .. only this warm time .. and chestnuts do not yet have greenery.
            2. jjj
              jjj 29 March 2018 09: 50
              0
              Quote: Scythe Queen
              thumped vodka from the neck to the bottom ..

              Have you also managed to drink? And in Anapa, in what shift were you?
              1. Kosya Queen
                Kosya Queen 29 March 2018 20: 06
                0
                We drank only on events of extreme importance, and even more on the shore. And I have never been to Anapa. But he was in Izmail. Once upon a time, back in 2006, at the school of junior marine security specialists. Art. 1 tbsp. Warhead-4. Here was a cool time))) I want it back))
        2. 210ox
          210ox 28 March 2018 20: 38
          +4
          It's not about the border guards ... But at the World Cup in football .. yes hi
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: svp67
          In the Sea of ​​Azov, it’s kind of hard for Varshavyanka to operate, it’s the thing for the Raptors and the like ...

          At Varshavyanka, if anything, there are also calibers in the RCC variant, so they could also look from the Russian Sea ...
          Quote: 210ox
          Where is Andrei? How to say, they probably tracked down that there is no one around. We need to drown pirates. But seriously, everyone is busy with Syria and there isn’t enough strength. I think so

          Dmitry, are border guards busy with our Syria too?
      2. Zubr
        Zubr 28 March 2018 20: 26
        +3
        I get the impression that this red tape for a long time. Something Ukrainians want, since the Captain was transported to Kharkov.
      3. Alexander War
        Alexander War 28 March 2018 21: 03
        0
        All right, for the Raptors and Mongooses
      4. Jerk
        Jerk 29 March 2018 00: 57
        +2
        The Navy of dill is generally represented by boats - to drown an inflatable patrol boat - enough helicopter
        1. FIFA from Cardiff
          FIFA from Cardiff 29 March 2018 04: 13
          +5
          The flight hour of a helicopter is comparable to the cost of hohlomotorki, add to this the cost of ammunition and screech in the media that Ukrainians will arrange, remembering Asian wisdom “donkey with gold opens the gates of any fortress” it’s easier to give money to the Ukrainians themselves so that they could burn their own hands at the pier or resell to LDNRovsky for example
        2. Normal ok
          Normal ok 29 March 2018 08: 42
          +2
          Quote: Jerk
          Navy dill is generally represented by boats

          What does the "Navy of dill" have to do with it? Seiner "Nord" was detained by border guards. Unlike the Navy, Ukrainian border guards brought all their boats out of Crimea. They also operate on them.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 28 March 2018 20: 00
      +4
      Where is Andrei? How to say, they probably tracked down that there is no one around. We need to drown pirates. But seriously, everyone is busy with Syria and there isn’t enough strength. I think so
      Quote: NEXUS
      Recall that the fishing schooner was detained in the neutral waters of the Sea of ​​Azov by Ukrainian border guards

      And where were the ships of our Black Sea Fleet at that moment? In neutral waters, a Ukrainian trough detains our ship ... where were our RTOs vaunted, Varshavyanki, border ships?
      And now they write, the fate of our sailors. What fate is it, if you stupidly cannot protect your ships in neutral waters?
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 28 March 2018 22: 10
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        everyone is busy with Syria and is not enough for all

        It is clear that in the Syrian direction, the enemy is more serious. And in order to keep the entire Ukrainian “army” at sea, together with their “fleet”, two missile boats are enough. One on the Black Sea coast, another on the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov.
      2. FIFA from Cardiff
        FIFA from Cardiff 29 March 2018 04: 14
        +2
        We’ll start anything on the seiners, to put the machine guns, a couple of queues, and now there are no fools to serve on these chovny at the hohlyad
        1. Metallurg_2
          Metallurg_2 29 March 2018 06: 49
          +3
          It is impossible - then, according to international laws, it will no longer be a merchant ship, but a warship.
          1. gorets50
            gorets50 29 March 2018 15: 26
            +2
            And what on a warship you can’t fish?
    3. vlad66
      vlad66 28 March 2018 20: 00
      +23
      Quote: NEXUS
      where were the ships of our Black Sea Fleet at that moment?

      The ships of the Black Sea Fleet were where they were supposed to be, but it is felt that the Ukrainians are becoming impudent every day, it is high time to beat our hands, the platform when the crests got on our hands instantly.
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      2. Tersky
        Tersky 28 March 2018 20: 35
        +16
        Quote: vlad66
        b, but it’s felt that Ukrainians are becoming impudent every day, long ago it’s time to beat our hands,
        Not ... if you educate like this-
        :
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 28 March 2018 20: 46
          +11
          Quote: Tersky
          Quote: vlad66
          b, but it’s felt that Ukrainians are becoming impudent every day, long ago it’s time to beat our hands,
          Not ... if you educate like this-
          :

          Victor, this would be just wonderful, one could be deprived of one organ, so that they would not multiply. hi
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 28 March 2018 22: 05
            +8
            Vladimir, welcome hi
            , one could be deprived of one organ

            Which is boneless, the language is called. Well, as compensation - to everyone speaking a parrot. Then they will become very similar to pirates. wink
        2. win
          win 28 March 2018 20: 52
          +1
          You can show humanity - to give out one blindfold and a piece of log to the leg am
    4. helmi8
      helmi8 28 March 2018 20: 06
      +12
      Quote: NEXUS
      What fate is it, if you stupidly cannot protect your ships in neutral waters?

      It seems to me that instead of putting protection on fishing vessels, it will be cheaper to put a couple of launchers on them. And then let the ukromarins try to approach them in neutral waters. wink
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 28 March 2018 20: 08
        +7
        Quote: helmi8
        It seems to me that instead of putting protection on fishing vessels, it will be cheaper to put a couple of launchers on them. And then let the ukromarins try to approach them in neutral waters.

        Yes, I’m not guarding ... there is a border service. I don’t understand why our sailors didn’t get in touch with our border guards ... I need to press a button and send a signal to the point about the seizure (like in banks) ...
    5. zoff-2017
      zoff-2017 28 March 2018 20: 08
      +5
      This is the Sea of ​​Azov, as if they didn’t dig it, but connected it with the Mediterranean. They (Azov) also consider it completely their own to the shores of the occupant. And we are building a bridge. And it is a shame for our leadership that the outskirts allow.

      I was in Ukraine several times, after separation. People are normal, excellent. And in Kiev, and Kharkov, and Kherson and in Zaporozhye. The authorities are trying to fart loudly. Caught a pancake occupant.

      Will our government respond?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 28 March 2018 20: 17
        +14
        Quote: zoff-2017
        Will our government respond?

        The calculation, as I understand it, is that the Russian Federation will ASK for the release of the sailors, while humiliating and again diplomatically expressing concern.
        And we need an answer, a force one, so that not only would our sailors be returned where they took it, they would also ask for an apology and pay monetary compensation for the inconvenience.
      2. svd-xnumx
        svd-xnumx 28 March 2018 21: 12
        +14
        Block the Kerch Strait for their ships. Or it’s better to detain them for inspection, (version- "since there was information that they were carrying explosives to undermine the bridge") and mock them for weeks.
        1. Looking for
          Looking for 28 March 2018 21: 38
          +3
          I agree with you. Constant searches, dangerous maneuvering, escorting with imitation of the use of small arms and cannons. - so that there are not enough diapers for each centner flight.
      3. myobius59
        myobius59 29 March 2018 16: 13
        +2
        zoff- 2017? You're lying all. Many times I met with Ukrainians in the north and in maskva (I work as a shift), there are NO NORMAL ones. Some are DULL, FROZEN SPECIALS. Thoughts in the head are one and a half pieces, and the vocabulary in Russian is, like Elochka’s, a cannibal.
        Moreover, probably 50 years ago, several families from our places left for hohland, in the Kharkov region. Lived there, choked. And a few years ago, somewhere at 13m-14m, one family came to visit their homeland, to see relatives. So they quarreled here with everyone, quarreled, swearing Russia and us in the bargain, and left a few days later without saying goodbye.
        So your untruth, THERE ARE NO NORMAL PEOPLE. There are embittered and flawed. am .
    6. Piramidon
      Piramidon 28 March 2018 20: 16
      +8
      Quote: NEXUS
      And where were the ships of our Black Sea Fleet at that moment?

      Well, yes, every fisherman must be accompanied by a pair of destroyers.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 28 March 2018 20: 20
        +9
        Quote: Piramidon
        Well, yes, every fisherman must be accompanied by a pair of destroyers.

        About the Black Sea Fleet, if you do not understand, I said in the context that this is their territory under control. I didn’t talk about putting destroyers to the fishermen ... but tell us where the border guards were at this moment, do not tell?
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 28 March 2018 20: 28
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          . But the border guards where were ours at this moment, do not tell?

          Andrei, after all, all the circumstances of the incident are unknown, and you have already run over the entire Black Sea Fleet. Borders also do not stand along a continuous chain along the coast. There are enough of its borders. hi
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 28 March 2018 20: 32
            +21
            Quote: Piramidon
            Andrei, after all, all the circumstances of the incident are unknown, and you have already run over the entire Black Sea Fleet. Borders also do not stand along a continuous chain along the coast. There are enough of its borders.

            Stepan, do you understand that this all happened in NEUTRAL waters. That is, on the face of the capture of our ship. Do you explain what to do when they capture our land (this trawler, the territory of the Russian Federation)?
            And now the captain was ETAPED to Kharkov as a convict ... that is, they wiped his feet about us, and excuse my ass ... I see it this way.
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 28 March 2018 20: 58
              +4
              Quote: NEXUS
              Explain to you what to do when they seize our land (this trawler, the territory of the Russian Federation)?

              Since this has happened, the Foreign Ministry should act now. But for me, it would be better if MO. Catch a dozen Ukrainian vessels in response. Fortunately, now they all walk under the bridge.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 28 March 2018 21: 04
                +7
                Quote: Piramidon
                Since this has happened, the Foreign Ministry should act now

                Again, the notes of protest? Aren't you tired of these squeaks from our Foreign Ministry about the fact that they offended us? Yes, and who is the note? Kiev fascist junta? Ugh ..

                Quote: Piramidon
                Catch a dozen Ukrainian vessels in response.

                It’s just a symmetrical answer, and I’m talking about an answer such that henceforth our vessels Ukrainian pelvis bypassed the tenth road.
              2. New Year day
                New Year day 28 March 2018 22: 14
                +3
                Quote: Piramidon
                then the Foreign Ministry should act now.

                immediately after the incident, Kerch appealed to the Russian Consulate in Kharkov. There they were told that they would not deal with this issue.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 28 March 2018 22: 16
                  +6
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Kerch appealed to the Russian Consulate in Kharkov. There they were answered ...

                  Where does the information come from?
                  PS: Send to Google - I will bite wink
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day 28 March 2018 22: 57
                    +4
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Where does the information come from?
                    PS: Send to Google - I will bite

                    I am not tasty and harmful.
                    https://vz.ru/news/2018/3/27/914565.html
                    Owner: Russian diplomats refused to help fishermen captured in Ukraine
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 29 March 2018 07: 50
                      +5
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      Owner: Russian diplomats refused to help fishermen captured in Ukraine

                      Honestly, I didn’t understand.
                      Some proprietor climbs to “liberate” (yeah ... right now, he will liberate, immensely imbued, probably), and diplomats should help him in this noble cause.
                      IMHO, nevertheless, the correct scheme is somewhat different, which was reported to the "owner".
                      , the source, by the way - is very ... indicative wink
                  2. StVahmistr
                    StVahmistr 29 March 2018 10: 01
                    +3
                    Gorlanov added that he himself talked on the phone with one of our diplomats. “They told me the same thing and pointed out that the situation is so tense that they will not intervene in representatives of the diplomatic service,” the businessman said.

                    Now go dumb over the hill. Should that happen, the state will not intervene. This is exactly the same as collecting money for the treatment of a sick child throughout Russia. Despite the fact that a lot of trillions are in offshore ...
                    1. gorets50
                      gorets50 29 March 2018 15: 35
                      +1
                      This is correctly noticed. The child is sick. And the state. The rich do not care about him. And poor people help.
            2. rocket757
              rocket757 28 March 2018 21: 08
              +14
              Why are we waiting for the officials to serve, the warrior to organize normal work, just the proper performance of their direct duties, should bark the GDP?
              Why, in order to bring important information, should the GDP pay attention to the problem, journalists should raise PR-RR, people should go almost to rebellion, someone socially significant, having access to the body, should bring the problem ???
              What do all kinds of advisers, "responsible" persons and other environment of the supreme ???
              And now the question is - Why do we have a mess in our country and measures are taken only when the disaster grows to the extent of a catastrophe, a tragedy?
              Who is to blame?
              I did not vote for this power, and someone would risk convincing those that we are wrong?
              Riot police and other convincing bodies do not offer, our time will come, they themselves will come for us, without anyone's suggestions / tips! People, don’t fall so low.
              1. StVahmistr
                StVahmistr 29 March 2018 10: 04
                +2
                Why are we waiting for the officials to serve, the warrior to organize normal work, just the proper performance of their direct duties, should bark the GDP?

                He should not bark, but dismiss from office with delivery to the bunk. Then they just stir ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 29 March 2018 10: 46
                  +1
                  Only two ways of PUBLIC control over the actions of the authorities exist in our history ... unfortunately, NOT ONE acts in our country!
                  Discussing that it is better to follow Western-style democracy and or advice from the initial period of our Soviet history is a separate topic, do-o-o-l-go.
                  We must all get together and create a national control body and demand that the authorities observe the interests of all the inhabitants of the country!
                  Civil society is not an ephemeral concept, it is a real force that creates balance in any community organized into a single state!
                  1. StVahmistr
                    StVahmistr 29 March 2018 10: 53
                    +2
                    Only two ways of PUBLIC control over the actions of the authorities exist in our history ... unfortunately, NOT ONE acts in our country!

                    They will not act, not for this they were removed. But the tales of our storyteller on people act very much! They believe them from year to year, and fairy tales are not even updated.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 29 March 2018 12: 02
                      +1
                      Yes, they removed, but they try to erase the memory of how it was, how it could be.
                      Only you can’t finish anything completely, if it is.
                      That's right, we must not listen to "fairy tales", but create a civil society, i.e. team up for a start. The first step, and then step by step we will go there wherever we want.
                      The idea, the meaning is. There is no unifying center ... I do not see yet.
                      1. StVahmistr
                        StVahmistr 29 March 2018 14: 50
                        +1
                        The idea, the meaning is. There is no unifying center ... I do not see yet

                        I don’t see him either .... Well, the darkest one doesn’t go under this business, although it can, but for some reason does not want to. But as soon as he just starts, presenting tangible results, and I will be the first on his side ...
                  2. gorets50
                    gorets50 29 March 2018 15: 42
                    +1
                    Easy to say. Yes, it’s hard to do. For People’s control, money will be found quickly. You are not sick children.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 29 March 2018 16: 08
                      0
                      In this matter, it is not a sin to learn from Western labor movements! All of them passed, and now a certain fuss of mouse-money is present! But there are real associations and social movements. They can be explored on the rake account. Schaub do not attack once again!
                      By the way, we have a REALLY working union in LENINGRAD! Brothers are fighting dockers and they have ideological / scientific support!
                      In Poland, too, everything started with dockers! see the result for the result too!
            3. Looking for
              Looking for 28 March 2018 21: 33
              +1
              Absolutely true. Once again, your feet have been wiped off, and Russia is only wiping off. Ugh !!!
            4. sapporo1959
              sapporo1959 28 March 2018 21: 49
              +6
              Well Kharkov is not a prison yet! But lately I’ve been watching Russia, only the lazy one doesn’t kick. It seems that they have announced the Pepelats and Gravitats, but the imperialists are not appeasing ... The authority on the world stage is unfortunately lower and lower, since the ancient Ukrainians are not afraid of raising Russian captains. ..Yes and most importantly where!
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 28 March 2018 21: 57
                +8
                Quote: sapporo1959
                The authority on the world stage is unfortunately lower and lower, since the ancient Ukrainians are not afraid of anything raising Russian captains ... And the main thing is where!

                And looking at this disgrace, I want to ask the Ukrainians. Do you know that we are a nuclear super-duper power, with tanks, planes, Daggers and Poseidons?
                Here Ukrainians laid parted on us and our power, but what about the USA and NATO? And we only bleat about rights, express concern and call mattresses partners.
                I thought in comparison with the Skripal case, there’s nowhere to impudent them ... but no ... they tighten the noose, and we play the rule of law, decency and law ...
              2. New Year day
                New Year day 28 March 2018 22: 18
                +6
                Quote: sapporo1959
                Well Kharkov is not a prison yet!

                and Kherson? our military convicts are sitting there. What is the difference where the captain and crew will sit? The main thing is that they were arrested and imprisoned as military men. Banderlog has an article.
                Well, the Foreign Ministry will continue to express concern!
              3. alexmach
                alexmach 28 March 2018 22: 24
                +3
                Well Kharkov is not a prison yet!

                What kind of prison, Kharkov SBU, the place where a huge number of captured militias were kept, there were also reports of torture.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 28 March 2018 22: 32
                  +2
                  Quote: alexmach
                  Kharkov SBU is a place where a huge number of captured militias were kept, and there were reports of torture.

                  Yeah .... In the summer of 2014, at the bottom of the Pecheneg reservoir, they found those who could not stand the torture. And someone was drowned alive. And the favorite occupation of Kharkov SBBists in the spring-autumn of 2014 was to drop living people from a helicopter into water bodies, having previously tied it up and wrapped it in fabric with its head.
                  1. jjj
                    jjj 29 March 2018 10: 04
                    +3
                    The handwriting of Americans is visible in Vietnam
                2. sapporo1959
                  sapporo1959 29 March 2018 14: 07
                  0
                  So the question arises, where are our valiant Chekists Putiners and the rest of the heroes who here daily, day and night without hats smashing all enemies, from Sobchak with Grudinin and ending with Makarevich and the State Department? Why in the newspapers I do not see reports of their exploits and do not read that the wanted person has already been delivered and gives true testimony repenting for serving Bandera and the imperialists ..? Aw heroes!
            5. Normal ok
              Normal ok 29 March 2018 08: 55
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              Stepan, you understand that this all happened in NEUTRAL waters.

              Well, firstly, only the Russian media write about "NEUTRAL" waters. And this is not a reliable source. In reality, fishermen could swim anywhere. What happens all the time. Poaching is called.
              And secondly, under international law of the sea, most of the Azov Sea belongs to Ukraine, because nobody recognizes the annexation of Crimea.
              Accordingly, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is forced to remain silent and the Moscow Region does not know what to do.
    7. Tersky
      Tersky 28 March 2018 20: 50
      +6
      Quote: NEXUS
      In neutral waters, a Ukrainian trough detains our ship.

      Andrei, there are no neutral waters as such, there is an area of ​​"joint use". And this is all the Sea of ​​Azov, with the exception of the five-mile zone along the coast. At least it’s written in the agreement between Russia and Ukraine, which was signed in Kerch in December 2003 of the year. There may have been changes after 2014, but this is unlikely.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 28 March 2018 20: 56
        +2
        Quote: Tersky
        At least that’s how it is written in the treaty of Russia and Ukraine, which was signed in Kerch in December 2003.

        We read the contract, namely ...
        Article 2

        1. Merchant ships and warships, as well as other state ships flying the flag of the Russian Federation or Ukraine, operated for non-commercial purposes, enjoy freedom of navigation in the Sea of ​​Azov and the Kerch Strait.
        2. Merchant ships under the flags of third states may enter the Sea of ​​Azov and pass through the Kerch Strait if they are sent to or returned from a Russian or Ukrainian port.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 28 March 2018 21: 14
          +7
          Quote: NEXUS
          We read the contract, namely ...

          This is all clear, because it is a question of sharing water. The very concept of “neutral waters in the treaty is absent. The fact that the Sumerians definitely rudely violated all conceivable and inconceivable articles of the treaty is as clear as God's day.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 28 March 2018 21: 19
            +9
            Quote: Tersky
            This is all clear, because it is a question of sharing water. The very concept of “neutral waters in the treaty is absent. The fact that the Sumerians definitely rudely violated all conceivable and inconceivable articles of the treaty is as clear as God's day.

            AND? Getting Concerned? Remember, I told you in one thread about the "noose" on the neck? Cowardly behavior always causes greater aggression. This is not what I came up with, but nature itself.
          2. Antares
            Antares 28 March 2018 22: 02
            +5
            Quote: Tersky
            Quote: NEXUS
            We read the contract, namely ...

            This is all clear, because it is a question of sharing water. The very concept of “neutral waters in the treaty is absent. The fact that the Sumerians definitely rudely violated all conceivable and inconceivable articles of the treaty is as clear as God's day.

            Neutral waters surfaced only in the Russian media.
            Ukrainian media operate for example
            The vessel detained the marine guard ship of the Ukrainian State Border Service "in the Ukrainian waters of the Sea of ​​Azov"

            https://pravdoryb.info/ukraina-zaderzhala-rossiys
            kiy-laquonordraquo.html
            That is, neither the Russian media nor the Ukrainian are wrong. Basically, the media writes about the "water area of ​​the Sea of ​​Azov" Only the most "patriotic" lean on "neutral (if the Russian Federation) and Ukrainian (if Ukraine)
            When you read the news on VO, you automatically read the statement of the Russian media, and not the wording of the detention of the Ukrainian side.
            From the materials of the border service-
            “The Nord was stopped at 15 miles from the Upholstery Spit.
            The direction is not specified, however, it is already further than 5 miles. Reason for detention - documents issued in "occupied Kerch"
            The audit found that it was registered in the temporarily occupied territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. In addition, the crew members violated the order of departure from the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine. All of them had so-called passports of Russian citizens issued in the city of Kerch, ”the Border Service said in a statement.

            Protocols were drawn up for detained members of the crew of the Nord vessel under Article 204-2 of the KUOAP (Violation of the procedure for entering and leaving the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine), and a notification was sent to the Security Service of Ukraine regarding article 332-1 of the Criminal Code, suggesting criminal liability (up to three years in prison) for the same violation
            Now the company is preparing an official comment on this incident and is going to send it, including to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
            Russian border guards have not yet commented on the information of the Ukrainian Border Service. As an informed source told Interfax, now employees of the Russian border service understand the situation
            The Sea of ​​Azov Treaty is in force. Formally, Ukraine is right. Legally, Crimea. No new agreements have been and never will be.
            Either respond by force and continue to escalate the situation to war, or try to prevent it ... In general, between the shame and the war, the Russian Federation has long ago chosen ... surrendering Ukraine, will it still be.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 28 March 2018 22: 22
              +6
              Quote: Antares
              Reason for detention - documents issued in "occupied Kerch"

              then they’ll put him in prison!
              Quote: Antares
              Either respond by force and continue to escalate the situation to war, or try to prevent it.

              already allowed and missed everything that they could.
              Quote: Antares
              In general, between the shame and the war, the Russian Federation has long chosen.

              shame, speak directly.
              Soon, banderlogs will abduct people in the territory of Crimea, take them to the mainland and judge them.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 28 March 2018 22: 24
                +7
                Quote: Silvestr
                Soon banderlogs will abduct people in the territory of Crimea, take them to the mainland and judge

                Looking forward to it?
                Wait wait yes
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 28 March 2018 22: 58
                  +6
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Looking forward to it?

                  cautiously. There are many relatives and acquaintances
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 28 March 2018 23: 08
                    +7
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    cautiously. There are many relatives and acquaintances

                    Good troll. Thin.
                    Still, you subtly remind me of someone recourse
                    1. New Year day
                      New Year day 28 March 2018 23: 45
                      +3
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Good troll. Thin.
                      Still, you subtly remind me of someone

                      you flatter me hi
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 29 March 2018 06: 28
                        +5
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        you flatter me

                        Not in the slightest.
                        But to explain to you how that owl is interesting ... I'll take care at leisure yes
            2. captain
              captain 29 March 2018 09: 45
              +3
              Quote: Antares
              Quote: Tersky
              Quote: NEXUS
              We read the contract, namely ...

              This is all clear, because it is a question of sharing water. The very concept of “neutral waters in the treaty is absent. The fact that the Sumerians definitely rudely violated all conceivable and inconceivable articles of the treaty is as clear as God's day.

              Neutral waters surfaced only in the Russian media.
              Ukrainian media operate for example
              The vessel detained the marine guard ship of the Ukrainian State Border Service "in the Ukrainian waters of the Sea of ​​Azov"

              https://pravdoryb.info/ukraina-zaderzhala-rossiys
              kiy-laquonordraquo.html
              That is, neither the Russian media nor the Ukrainian are wrong. Basically, the media writes about the "water area of ​​the Sea of ​​Azov" Only the most "patriotic" lean on "neutral (if the Russian Federation) and Ukrainian (if Ukraine)
              When you read the news on VO, you automatically read the statement of the Russian media, and not the wording of the detention of the Ukrainian side.
              From the materials of the border service-
              “The Nord was stopped at 15 miles from the Upholstery Spit.
              The direction is not specified, however, it is already further than 5 miles. Reason for detention - documents issued in "occupied Kerch"
              The audit found that it was registered in the temporarily occupied territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. In addition, the crew members violated the order of departure from the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine. All of them had so-called passports of Russian citizens issued in the city of Kerch, ”the Border Service said in a statement.

              Protocols were drawn up for detained members of the crew of the Nord vessel under Article 204-2 of the KUOAP (Violation of the procedure for entering and leaving the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine), and a notification was sent to the Security Service of Ukraine regarding article 332-1 of the Criminal Code, suggesting criminal liability (up to three years in prison) for the same violation
              Now the company is preparing an official comment on this incident and is going to send it, including to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
              Russian border guards have not yet commented on the information of the Ukrainian Border Service. As an informed source told Interfax, now employees of the Russian border service understand the situation
              The Sea of ​​Azov Treaty is in force. Formally, Ukraine is right. Legally, Crimea. No new agreements have been and never will be.
              Either respond by force and continue to escalate the situation to war, or try to prevent it ... In general, between the shame and the war, the Russian Federation has long ago chosen ... surrendering Ukraine, will it still be.

              The first comment is normal. There are still adequate people on VO. Ukraine legally considers Crimea its own and almost all the states of the world consider it Ukrainian. Fishermen must either go under guard in a certain area or not go at all. in those places. The Black Sea Fleet is not a gang recruited from commenting on the military. A fleet without an order cannot take any action against a neighboring state, if this is not direct aggression. I give an example with about. Damansky. Our border guards did not use weapons until they received an order. You can ask those who served at that time on the border in the Far East; what the Chinese did at the border, how our border guards perished, but we didn’t use nuclear weapons, aviation, or other means in China. While our leadership was thinking. And only after the decision was made, the sun began to be used. Moreover, we gave away about. Daman to the Chinese.
              I believe that the indecision in 2014 of our leadership has led to the events of recent months towards Russia from the West.
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 29 March 2018 17: 09
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Tersky
          At least that’s how it is written in the treaty of Russia and Ukraine, which was signed in Kerch in December 2003.

          We read the contract, namely ...
          Article 2

          1. Merchant ships and warships, as well as other state ships flying the flag of the Russian Federation or Ukraine, operated for non-commercial purposes, enjoy freedom of navigation in the Sea of ​​Azov and the Kerch Strait.
          2. Merchant ships under the flags of third states may enter the Sea of ​​Azov and pass through the Kerch Strait if they are sent to or returned from a Russian or Ukrainian port.

          recourse recourse would you still read that Svidamye prescribed by law that we are an aggressor !!! the top of stupidity is to refer to any agreements regarding the current fascist Hohland ... the greater the top of stupidity is that it goes closer to the shores of Hohland to go fishing !!! laughing laughing laughing moreover, on a ship fixed in the Crimea, which Svidamye considers to be "occupied territory" ... also to citizens whom Svidamye considers to be "traitors and collaborators" !!! fool request request laughing laughing laughing
    8. LSA57
      LSA57 28 March 2018 20: 53
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      And where were the ships of our Black Sea Fleet at that moment?

      attach a warship to each fisherman, unrealistic
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 28 March 2018 20: 58
        +1
        Quote: LSA57
        attach a warship to each fisherman, unrealistic

        Read the discussion above and in what context I had in mind our Black Sea Fleet.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 28 March 2018 21: 23
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          Read the discussion above and in what context I meant our Black Sea Fleet

          I wrote it before you left your
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 28 March 2018 22: 22
        +2
        Quote: LSA57
        attach a warship to each fisherman, unrealistic

        and the towers near Odessa are guarded
    9. Alexander War
      Alexander War 28 March 2018 20: 55
      0
      RTOs and Varshavyanka are certainly strong, but border ships yes!
    10. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 28 March 2018 20: 58
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      And where were the ships of our Black Sea Fleet at that moment? In neutral waters, a Ukrainian trough detains our ship ... where were our RTOs vaunted, Varshavyanki, border ships?

      what are you writing about? which BSF? write where Putin looked and what did Shoigu do?
      What doesn’t throw you into sweat when someone is being killed or kidnapped in cities? where is the police looking?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 28 March 2018 21: 07
        +5
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        what are you writing about? which BSF?

        Have you just arrived from Mars? The Sea of ​​Azov and the Black Sea is a territory controlled by our Black Sea Fleet. And if under our nose, seize our ships, then who should understand? In your opinion, apparently Martians.
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    11. Town Hall
      Town Hall 28 March 2018 21: 08
      +3
      Quote: NEXUS
      Where were our RTOs vaunted, Varshavyanki, border ships?



      Where are the Sharks, where is the Ash Tree ... where are the Kuznetsov in the end! ...
    12. KOPA
      KOPA 28 March 2018 21: 13
      +1
      Do not be fooled)))) in a day or two there will be a result))))
    13. Baloo
      Baloo 28 March 2018 21: 25
      +3
      Quote: NEXUS
      And where were the ships of our Black Sea Fleet at that moment?

      It was enough to fit the helicopter
    14. Dr. David Livesey
      Dr. David Livesey 28 March 2018 21: 58
      +8
      Here he is a patriot, got out again !!! In Azov, in order to plunge, you need a couple of cables from the shore along the silt to go through the legs. Call the President’s direct line, the nearest BOD will be sent to you (probably from the TF), well, or decide the question yourself, get up from the couch, take a seat near Mariupol and set Berdyansk and Crimean fishermen in a swift throw to the west. Then to the north and then again to the west, to the west, drive the APU to Uzhgorod
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 March 2018 23: 29
        +5
        We will plunge into the depths of Ms and Ms, while for our authorities any mundal and other commercial interests will be more important than the fate of ordinary citizens. We don’t wade away from our duties in any way, we’ve even chosen No. 1 (and don’t say that these are our rights).
        Let our border guards and fishermen drink .... but these are our very ones. It is necessary for everyone and everyone to clearly explain how they are wrong, touching our people!
    15. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 29 March 2018 04: 06
      +3
      Quote: NEXUS
      And where were the ships of our Black Sea Fleet at that moment?


      "..On Sunday, March 25th, the ship of the state security service of the State Border Guard, 15 miles from the Upholstery Spit, stopped the Nord vessel. Ten people were on board ..."

      for fun, you’ll find this “scythe” on the map, set aside 15 miles and see what happens !!! it doesn’t smell of any neutral waters ... especially considering the current inadequacy of Hohland !!! negative wassat wassat wassat
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 March 2018 10: 55
        +2
        The fact that the CAPTAIN of a fishing vessel must understand this is understandable.
        It is not clear why our servants, frontier guards, did not understand this, did not foresee it.
        There is a conflict situation, there are inadequate neighbors, should they take this into account, measures include other direct duties to fulfill ??? What is it that they, only the commercial interests of the fat belts, let the doge of the state be protected! For ordinary citizens do not!
        Here again, "pecked roasted cock" in one place! Who will answer what is being done, what will be done later, didn’t this happen again?
        We can wait, but there must be answers!
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 29 March 2018 16: 57
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          The fact that the CAPTAIN of a fishing vessel must understand this is understandable.
          It is not clear why our servants, frontier guards, did not understand this, did not foresee it.
          There is a conflict situation, there are inadequate neighbors, should they take this into account, measures include other direct duties to fulfill ??? What is it that they, only the commercial interests of the fat belts, let the doge of the state be protected! For ordinary citizens do not!
          Here again, "pecked roasted cock" in one place! Who will answer what is being done, what will be done later, didn’t this happen again?
          We can wait, but there must be answers!

          here it’s probably not the problem of our border guards, but the stupidity of our citizens ... there you can even see on the map that all this is close to Khokhlyat territory and far from ours to Khokhlov 25 km, from our shores to this “spit” - more than a hundred km !!! am am and this is not the first such episode ... to recall the current of our Crimean warriors who have fallen upon the Khokhlyat border crossing to receive any documents !!! fool fool finally, you need to get around this leper territory as far as possible ... and they’ll come closer to it ... also Crimeans, who finally can forget about Hohland in the near future and shun it like the plague !! request wassat wassat wassat not only do they create problems for themselves with their adventures, they also create serious problems for the entire state !!! negative negative am am Do you think our border services should accompany every trough that decided to go fishing on fart near Khokhlyat territory ??? recourse recourse
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 29 March 2018 20: 31
            +1
            Hi Nikolay soldier
            How is the phone? Earned or radically had to figure it out?
            Most of our problems, most often, a tangle of sloppiness from different sides + incompetent actions of responsible persons! The captain is probably to blame, even if he didn’t violate the instructions because they weren’t ... his head should be on his shoulders, he should be responsible. There were special instructions, we do not know other instructions from the frontier service. In my understanding, the same captains should have been and hammered them specifically and under the signature ... otherwise nothing. All the same, this does not exclude the disgrace of our people, but then there would be no questions to the border guards! Themselves to blame!
            I suppose that the competent authorities worked on the topic, they just could tell the public about it! It’s not a secret operation, but informational noise would immediately turn sour ... when everything is known from the authorities. there’s nothing to talk about. I certainly didn’t bob, did not swear, I can wait if everything is clear!
            Now the time is very hot, and the more truth we hear from the authorities, the better! And we will not have reasons to listen to nonsense from different sides.
            Any truth is better than silence and all the more lies!
            And make our people do everything according to the rules ??? it’s not realistic, at least responsible persons within the framework of the permissible / permitted to keep, by any means, and that order will be much more than ever!
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 29 March 2018 21: 22
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              And make our people do everything according to the rules ??? it’s not realistic, at least responsible persons within the framework of the permissible / permitted to keep, by any means, and that order will be much more than ever!

              if our people do not want to act according to the rules (I'm not talking about common sense regarding this particular situation), then let them learn from such consequences !!! have gone head over heels ... and now the state must fall them !!! am am so who however the Crimeans know about the whole rotten Khokhlyat essence ... and at the same time it is the Crimeans who have acquired our citizenship and become one of the main enemies of the Svidmya who risk their fate in "dubious events" that could catch them by surprise, which Ukrainians will inevitably take advantage of! !! negative request request laughing laughing laughing
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 29 March 2018 21: 40
                +1
                The state must save the sales of slobs, this is the contract. At the very least, provide consular support and ensure that their case was considered precisely for the committed act. What they violated there, the border regime, the rules of fishing, let them be fined, we can confiscate the vessel, if it turns out according to their law ... nothing can be done, these are generally accepted rules. But if they try to stick to the betrayal of dill or something else that we don’t recognize, NECESSARY TO BURN OUT WITHOUT ANYTHING! This is not just right, it is vital for our state!
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 30 March 2018 01: 06
                  +2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  The state must save the sales of slobs, this is the contract. At the very least, provide consular support and ensure that their case was considered precisely for the committed act. What they violated there, the border regime, the rules of fishing, let them be fined, we can confiscate the vessel, if it turns out according to their law ... nothing can be done, these are generally accepted rules. But if they try to stick to the betrayal of dill or something else that we don’t recognize, NECESSARY TO BURN OUT WITHOUT ANYTHING! This is not just right, it is vital for our state!

                  the fact is that our side interprets the violation in one way, and the Ukrainians - in a completely different way !!! request request wassat wassat I repeat once again ... at this time period in relation to Hohland, you must shy away from it, as from a plague ... especially Crimeans !!! request request laughing laughing laughing and do not substitute the state with your idiocy !!! am am am
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 30 March 2018 09: 18
                    +2
                    Yes, where can we get away from our idiots. They are and they also need to be saved, because it is OUR!
                    Such is the social contract, such are the laws of the existence of the state, such is the logic of the situation!
                    If you do not save even idiots, then they begin to look for someone who will save them by any means. This is a loss on many points! We want to become a state! Even more desirable to become a GREAT STATE!
                    Simple Idiotic logic, it is, you can’t dismiss it, otherwise you can stop being a state, but become a territory!
                    I do not want.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 28 March 2018 19: 54
    +16
    Isn’t it time to block the Azov ports of Ukraine if they behave like this? Does the Crimean bridge interfere? So it's time to turn their problem into reality. We cannot stop these pirates.
    1. svp67
      svp67 28 March 2018 20: 00
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      But isn’t it time to block the Azov ports of Ukraine if they behave this way?

      Mundial, sir, mundial ....
      1. 210ox
        210ox 28 March 2018 20: 41
        0
        Here is the correct answer to all questions ...
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: 210ox
        But isn’t it time to block the Azov ports of Ukraine if they behave this way?

        Mundial, sir, mundial ....
    2. loginovich
      loginovich 28 March 2018 21: 32
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      Isn’t it time to block the Azov ports of Ukraine if they behave like this? Does the Crimean bridge interfere? So it's time to turn their problem into reality. We cannot stop these pirates.

      Only Achakov don’t block. From there send places will not seem a little.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 28 March 2018 21: 57
        +2
        Quote: loginovich
        Only Achakov don’t block. From there send places will not seem a little.

        Well, messenger, look, as if you were not sent to Ochakov.
        1. loginovich
          loginovich 28 March 2018 22: 09
          +2
          Caution
  3. astepanov
    astepanov 28 March 2018 19: 56
    +8
    Fuck any Ukrainian ship, preferably a military one, and exchange crews. How much time has passed - and everyone is silent about the act of piracy committed by Ukraine.
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 28 March 2018 20: 00
      +5
      The crews of the military vessels of the outskirts should be placed on the yards
  4. Kosmotoga
    Kosmotoga 28 March 2018 19: 56
    +2
    just in case the fish are a little sluggish, and then your stay will be delayed except for jokes.
  5. den3080
    den3080 28 March 2018 19: 56
    +4
    first rescue the ship with the crew, fill the faces of everyone who comes from ukrohrana, and then block the ports, for starters in the Sea of ​​Azov.
    1. svp67
      svp67 28 March 2018 20: 02
      +3
      Quote: den3080
      first rescue the ship with the crew,

      I think they will take the ship. The captain will be convicted and imprisoned, but the crew may be imprisoned the same, but most likely they will be fined and deported.
      1. thinker
        thinker 28 March 2018 21: 25
        +2
        Captain Article 332-1 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine is charged (“Violation of the order of entry into the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine and exit from it in order to harm the interests of the state"), which threatens to restrict freedom for a term up to three years or imprisonment for the same term, with confiscation of vehicles ....to the crew Article 204, Part 2 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of Ukraine is charged (“Violation of the procedure for entering and leaving the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine" - entails imposition of a fine of one hundred to three hundred exempt minimums income of citizens or administrative arrest for up to fifteen days).

        http://tass.ru/proisshestviya/5068080
        1. svp67
          svp67 29 March 2018 03: 53
          +2
          Quote: thinker
          Captain is charged

          Which was required to prove .... Thank you. hi
          1. StVahmistr
            StVahmistr 29 March 2018 10: 23
            0
            The captain is charged with article 332-1 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine ("Violation of the order of entry into the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine and exit from it in order to harm the interests of the state"),

            They quickly introduced the law on the occupied territories, and our chewing snot is all and the hell knows what they think. request
  6. Mustachioed Georgian
    Mustachioed Georgian 28 March 2018 19: 59
    +4
    Chinese warning and concern
    1. 210ox
      210ox 28 March 2018 20: 02
      +2
      Yes, this is most likely a real option.
      Quote: Mustachioed Georgian
      Chinese warning and concern
      1. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 29 March 2018 01: 19
        +3
        The territory of the Russian Federation includes:
        .................
        b) a civilian aircraft or watercraft assigned to the port of the Russian Federation, flying under its flag or other identification mark of the state and located in open water or airspace.
        Clause 1, Article 2 of the UN Charter, as well as in the 1970 Declaration of Principles of International Law

        Talk about nothing ....... 6 BDK at the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, not counting the MDK - Berdyansk should have been turned inside out ........ Striped would have done so, they do not care about international law and the UN. They would enter an expeditionary corps of the marine corps from a raft under a star-striped flag. During the day .........
        I want to believe in the principles of protecting a citizen by his State.
  7. Dormidont
    Dormidont 28 March 2018 19: 59
    +2
    What prevents Russia from declaring a naval blockade of the outskirts?
    1. 210ox
      210ox 28 March 2018 20: 03
      +14
      The lack of Faberge.
      Quote: Dormidont
      What prevents Russia from declaring a naval blockade of the outskirts?
  8. Egorovich
    Egorovich 28 March 2018 20: 00
    +6
    Ub.lyudki, they are the ub. How long will Russia calmly look at all these ukrofashist freaks. It is high time to shorten this abomination in human form. am
  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic 28 March 2018 20: 02
    +2
    My opinion is that you need to include a military, even a reservist, with experience in using rgp in fishing vessels, and equip these specialists with grenade launchers. So that there wouldn’t be such a seizure of our ships, so that ukrovoyaki knew that they could easily get a grenade from an RPG into the cabin if they got closer to our ships closer than 50 meters! And most importantly, really drown a couple of ukrochelns from RPG!
    1. StVahmistr
      StVahmistr 29 March 2018 10: 27
      +1
      My opinion is that you need to include a military, even a reservist, with experience in using rgp in fishing vessels, and equip these specialists with grenade launchers. That there was no similar capture of our vessels

      The precedent has been created, it remains to introduce a law on liability for piracy in the Sea of ​​Azov and the protection of ships from pirates.
  10. Hiller
    Hiller 28 March 2018 20: 07
    +6
    Well, where is our Foreign Ministry, Navy, what is being done to free the ship and crew?
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 28 March 2018 20: 22
      0
      Quote: hiller
      Well, where is our Foreign Ministry, Navy, what is being done to free the ship and crew?

      Nothing, there Russian they themselves all of them negative ..Kiev will not wait for statements with Washington!
  11. assa67
    assa67 28 March 2018 20: 08
    +4
    the most severe measures must be applied in response .. otherwise the priest will have a bridge, accidentally boats will fight against the supports, "dolphins" with vz.usstroystvami accidentally sail ... well, etc.
  12. Sergey985
    Sergey985 28 March 2018 20: 17
    +1
    The initiators of this capture live on another continent.
  13. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 March 2018 20: 20
    +2
    Just like off the coast of Somalia .. heh heh .. Think piracy to live? Well, not long you have left Bandera!
  14. Radikal
    Radikal 28 March 2018 20: 21
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Recall that the fishing schooner was detained in the neutral waters of the Sea of ​​Azov by Ukrainian border guards

    And where were the ships of our Black Sea Fleet at that moment? In neutral waters, a Ukrainian trough detains our ship ... where were our RTOs vaunted, Varshavyanki, border ships?
    And now they write, the fate of our sailors. What fate is it, if you stupidly cannot protect your ships in neutral waters?

    ... as well as the Raptors. am
  15. loginovich
    loginovich 28 March 2018 20: 24
    0
    Quote: helmi8
    It seems to me that instead of putting protection on fishing vessels, it will be cheaper to put a couple of launchers on them.


    The logic of the accountant is guessed by all banknotes to measure.
    Fishermen face a prison. and you think money. Zemlyachek you however.
  16. Radikal
    Radikal 28 March 2018 20: 25
    +2
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: NEXUS
    And where were the ships of our Black Sea Fleet at that moment?

    Well, yes, every fisherman must be accompanied by a pair of destroyers.

    No, of course, but it was possible to organize the control of the waters where our vessels operate, and it was necessary to provide force support to a civilian vessel in time. Surely they sent SOS to the air. sad
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 28 March 2018 20: 41
      +6
      Quote: Radikal
      control of the water area where our ships operate can be organized, and it was necessary

      Two proverbs, and both about you:
      1. If I knew where to fall, I would lay straws.
      2. Hindsight is all strong.
      1. Looking for
        Looking for 28 March 2018 21: 52
        +1
        Forgive me, but I don’t need an emergency radio station for retaliatory security measures. It indicates at least the initial coordinates of the capture point and the helicopter with the means of fire.
  17. faterdom
    faterdom 28 March 2018 20: 30
    +5
    Close the passage to any Ukrainian vessels through the Kerch Strait. And then they and shahid-longboats will push us under the bridge. There is nothing.
  18. mavrus
    mavrus 28 March 2018 20: 31
    +2
    Quote: Tersky
    Apparently it’s still invited ....

    Why, garni claps ... To put on embroidered shirts, to teach to shout: "Glory to Ukraine!", And order. Maydaynov completely pass.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 28 March 2018 20: 34
      +3
      Quote: mavrus
      Maydaynov completely pass.

      As if the tires were warming up. smile
  19. Radikal
    Radikal 28 March 2018 20: 42
    0
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: Radikal
    control of the water area where our ships operate can be organized, and it was necessary

    Two proverbs, and both about you:
    1. If I knew where to fall, I would lay straws.
    2. Hindsight is all strong.

    For you it is very noticeable, it hurts the eye! wassat tongue
  20. seacap
    seacap 28 March 2018 20: 43
    +10
    Ours was already pulled up by their helplessness, so as not to offend anyone, not to provoke by chance, whatever happens, somehow it very much resembles the 41st of the last century. Everything whips on the cheeks, goes to the head and still requires money, but our snots are only wiped and begged, indistinctly buzzing the old chewing gum, even more inflaming this presumptuous bastard. A company of marines and a BDK in a raid would have been enough, plus a blockade of the entire region to ask permission to go to the toilet. Encouraging and connivance to criminals, boors and Nazis, their persuasion and attempts to agree never before in the history of mankind always ended very deplorably and demanded huge costs.
  21. senima56
    senima56 28 March 2018 20: 46
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: NEXUS
    In neutral waters, a Ukrainian trough detains our ship ... where were our RTOs vaunted, Varshavyanki, border ships?

    In the Sea of ​​Azov, it’s kind of hard for Varshavyanka to operate, it’s the thing for the Raptors and the like ...

    What does the Varshavyanka have to do with it? You "do not include a fool!" And the question was posed correctly- "Where was our coast guard?
  22. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 28 March 2018 20: 46
    +2
    Are there loudspeakers on the ship? Every morning we need the anthem of Russia for the whole of Berdyansk, then "Victory Day", "The enemy does not surrender ..". Our people (Russians) in Berdyansk will gather at the pier after hearing a couple of rallies in support ....
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 28 March 2018 20: 57
      +4
      Why wouldn’t the Russian flag be raised above Berdyansk ???
      This bravado is useless! I would have looked at you such a bold one, if you had the chance to sit in a Ukrainian prison!
  23. Falcond
    Falcond 28 March 2018 20: 54
    +1
    I'm already overwhelming with the Sumerians! They behave like small dirty tricks ... like jackals - they don’t know how to bite! It must be given in the teeth at the first opportunity, that it was not good!
  24. shirkoled
    shirkoled 28 March 2018 20: 59
    +4
    And where did the Russian border guards look? Where were they?
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 28 March 2018 22: 41
      +1
      Border guards defend the border ... and their
  25. Bronevick
    Bronevick 28 March 2018 21: 03
    +2
    Let them betray the crew that we are very concerned.
  26. win
    win 28 March 2018 21: 05
    +2
    Let the fishing vessel be released when the Ukrainians eat all the fish.
    С lard they have a deficit yes
  27. wellaut
    wellaut 28 March 2018 21: 07
    +3
    It is also possible to carry out a special operation by the Black Sea Fleet by rescue.
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 28 March 2018 22: 42
      +2
      Sarmatians and Caliber ...?
      It's easier to exchange for you!
  28. bk316
    bk316 28 March 2018 21: 08
    +4
    And the crew had to break the diesel, and watch how the Ukrainians would tow them with their little boat.
    In a couple of hours, our coastal would be pulled
  29. Rostislav
    Rostislav 28 March 2018 21: 11
    +9
    Everyone here together in a laugh rushed about the tubs of Khokhlyatsky. But the situation is sad:
    - pirates seized the ship in neutral waters (there were still not enough in our territorial);
    - the crew is kept on board, the captain was taken away;
    - products and drinking water to spare;
    - NONE ABOUT ANY ACTION FROM RUSSIA TO RECOVERY ITS CITIZENS IS HEARING. Or am I missing something?
    No kidding here.
    The ship is assigned to Kerch. So maybe a deputy from this district has a request to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or where else to send to move?
    Or immediately to Shoigu to help pick up compatriots from captivity.
    Will they howl? So they are still not closing their mouths.
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 28 March 2018 21: 30
      +3
      That's when Sberbank opens a branch in Kerch, and then there will be actions. In the meantime, mundial sir, once.
    2. Falcond
      Falcond 28 March 2018 22: 46
      +1
      - NONE ABOUT ANY ACTION FROM RUSSIA TO RECOVERY ITS CITIZENS IS HEARING. Or am I missing something?

      You just forgot to report! Take action!
  30. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 28 March 2018 21: 12
    +2
    Quote: FalconD
    Why wouldn’t the Russian flag be raised above Berdyansk ???
    This bravado is useless! I would have looked at you such a bold one, if you had the chance to sit in a Ukrainian prison!

    We still didn’t seem to switch to you, by the way. I just suggested a way out of the situation - maybe dumb - it's okay, there (on the ship) people are adults, they know better. We actually communicate here, and sometimes a sensible thought can come out against the background of obvious delirium. Looking through which someone can either help our guys, or they will help themselves.
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 28 March 2018 22: 48
      +2
      Well, at least you recognize the possible presence of stupidity ... already with dignity)
  31. Ural resident
    Ural resident 28 March 2018 21: 30
    +1
    For our part, there is still silence, as usual however. Terrible focus ...
    But if you imagine that someone captured an American fishing vessel ...
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 28 March 2018 22: 50
      +2
      But if you imagine that someone captured an American fishing vessel ...

      As Vladimir Semenovich sang: "aaaaashash, already horror! ..."
  32. SEER
    SEER 28 March 2018 21: 48
    0
    What flag was this ship under?
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 28 March 2018 22: 25
      +1
      Quote: SEER
      What flag was this ship under?

      under the flag of the Russian Federation
  33. Beltasir matyagu
    Beltasir matyagu 28 March 2018 21: 49
    0
    Qualify as piracy with all that it implies
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 28 March 2018 22: 52
      0
      Like how to send international ship groups to the Gulf of Aden?
  34. Aloemc
    Aloemc 28 March 2018 21: 50
    +3
    Ugh you. "Citizens of Russia", if it still meant something, an empty phrase, as we can see in similar situations.
    The snot on a fist wound those in power and mumbled on the screen. It's disgusting. Phew.

    It is necessary to act decisively, without talking, so that it is not disastrous.

    Though expressed concern?
  35. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 28 March 2018 21: 51
    0
    the test ball went - if we let it go on the brakes - everything - they will begin to hold around the world as a measure of pressure on the country
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 28 March 2018 22: 27
      +1
      Quote: seregatara1969
      the test ball went - if we let it go on the brakes - everything - they will begin to hold around the world as a measure of pressure on the country

      so they can even drop troops on the Crimean bridge, and the guards will watch
  36. Sergey D_2
    Sergey D_2 28 March 2018 21: 54
    +1
    There is a radio. So, all the same, it’s not in neutral waters.
  37. Looking for
    Looking for 28 March 2018 21: 59
    0
    Yes, the situation is difficult for Russia now, but I think that it would be high time for Russia to shoot first. It is in such a scenario that the enemies of Russia act — and how unfortunate they act effectively.
  38. Graz
    Graz 28 March 2018 22: 13
    0
    everything is simple, you need to capture in response, then change
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 28 March 2018 22: 55
      0
      Like Somalia? We must act as a Power ...
  39. Scud
    Scud 28 March 2018 22: 15
    +1
    A border guard cadet of the FSB asked to live in dill. Today.
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 28 March 2018 22: 54
      0
      Chiv, did not understand ?????
  40. Sergey Koryagin
    Sergey Koryagin 28 March 2018 22: 51
    +1
    This is not a scandal but an emergency response system - a Black Sea seiner. I would like to make a big mistake, but for a long time. Usually the captain in the bullpen and the crew are on board. There, during the improvisation, under the guise of daily checks, they will rob the personal belongings of the crew, and you won’t prove anything to anyone. Just ours love to play long-mid calls, paper in general tyagomotina.
  41. Falcond
    Falcond 28 March 2018 22: 53
    +2
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: seregatara1969
    the test ball went - if we let it go on the brakes - everything - they will begin to hold around the world as a measure of pressure on the country

    so they can even drop troops on the Crimean bridge, and the guards will watch

    The main thing is to express concern!)
  42. Navy7981
    Navy7981 28 March 2018 22: 54
    0
    What kind of people are these Ukrainians?
    1. Sergey D_2
      Sergey D_2 28 March 2018 23: 49
      +2
      High - 2-2,5rost. With horns. Very evil
  43. Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 March 2018 23: 52
    0
    Well, I think that now our ships will go there under the supervision of our guard.
    Well, for Ukraine it is enough just to hold our ship as long as possible.
    This is a form of humiliation of Russia to show its powerlessness.
  44. Darvin dv
    Darvin dv 29 March 2018 03: 54
    +2
    But our border guards at that time were catching poachers, and the vessels with small smuggling, because this is not so troublesome, there is no military action and a good welter. Indeed, in essence, Russia can catch all vessels from Mariupol, but does not. There is something to answer, but who needs it, the fuss is not profitable.
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 29 March 2018 14: 07
      0
      Quote: DarvinDV
      Indeed, in essence, Russia can catch all ships from Mariupol, but does not do this

      What cosmic stupidity however. Moreover, 20 repeated in this thread once. Imagine that there is a cargo ship flying the Turkish flag (and there are mostly non-Ukrainian ships sailing there) from Mariupol. Well, they’ll “catch” him. What's next. Conflict with Turkey? If the Turks in response to the Bosphorus block, at least for a month, kirdyk Russian group in Syria. And financial losses will be Mama Do not Cry.
  45. sleeve
    sleeve 29 March 2018 04: 50
    +4
    Morning love. We have a lot of people, let them sit in Hohland. In general, maybe I got this already. Where are the constant patrols in the Sea of ​​Azov? Isn't there a gigantic coast under Ukrainians? The possibility of a patrol approach within 20-30 minutes is a reality. You can insure the whole event with a pinwheel. This country is at war with us. And now this turns out to be a personal matter for the crew. We took them to the Russian Federation and can’t protect? This is some kind of joke, right? And if they disembark from boats on the Crimean coast, while all the Crimean bridge is examined, they will seize tourists and accuse them of being in Ukrainian territory? And what, there are enough scumbags !. And in our proposals, we only have to “bang” and “condemn”. If now passes with the “Nord” -ambetan to all Crimean fishermen. Everyone will change the registry port, at gunpoint. And here we are over the Ukrainians neighing and the Foreign Ministry will condemn. Kindergarten. Well, the stupid question: how to get them now from Ukraine. With the ship, to hell with it, let the FSB pay full compensation. How to get people? They are citizens of the Russian Federation. And every year under the article referred to hereUK RU "come" under 5 million.
  46. ver_
    ver_ 29 March 2018 05: 12
    0
    Quote: Orionvit
    Quote: svp67
    Gdk were our ships and aircraft?

    And where were the strategic missile forces, along with the satellite constellation?

    ... so where? We have everything through the anus done .. Until the fried cock pecks .. man does not cross ..
  47. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 29 March 2018 05: 26
    0
    It is not clear the word detention ??? It’s like in Somalia, piracy !!! or themselves stupidly agreed to be arrested. There are norms and rules of conduct for the appearance and claims of foreign ships.
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 29 March 2018 05: 44
      0
      Namely - piracy like Somali, therefore, with pirates and act accordingly.
  48. Wolka
    Wolka 29 March 2018 05: 28
    +2
    Ukrainian state piracy is something new ... now they will squeal and bargain with Russia
  49. LeonidL
    LeonidL 29 March 2018 05: 43
    0
    Catch all civilian and military canoes floating under a yellow-rag rag, and bastard in bulk in Rostov or Taganrog. If the harsh answer doesn’t arrive, these dirty tricks do not calm down - they understand only power, all else - only gives confidence in impunity. You do not need to bleat - you need to act quickly and toughly.
  50. sgr291158
    sgr291158 29 March 2018 05: 54
    +1
    Well, and what actions will be on our part. Or say nothing again.