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Tuleyev appealed to Kemerovo people: This harassment comes from all sides!

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The governor of the Kemerovo Region, Aman Tuleyev, decided to record a video message to the Kemerovo people in connection with the tragedy at the Winter Cherry shopping and entertainment center. At the beginning of the video, Tuley said that he wanted to bow low to everyone who supported Kemerovo in this difficult moment.


Tuleyev:
You know everything about tragedy. And around her, certain forces purposefully try to set off people, try to cash in on someone else's grief and, accordingly, rock the situation terribly. Look: Ukraine, there is this telephone bully ... calling our morgues, says: take it there ... and the number of the dead is already counted by 600-700 people. Although the investigating authorities, the Ministry of Emergency Situations are working there, they reported everything to you. The tragedy is going through the whole world practically, this has never happened.


Tuleyev continued:
I tell you once again: I cannot relate to this through a personal lens, although my niece also died there. This is terrible grief. But always in Russia it was: grief - and people always unite, help each other. Preying on human grief, I believe this is sacrilege.


Tuleyev about the current situation:
See what's going on. Mine "Jubilee". Two times anonymous calls: "mine mined." Well, what order ... We are obliged to raise the miners. Just raised - checked - lowered. Just let it down - again. Calls arrive at the Antonovskaya mine. 27 th (March) - Polosukhinskaya mine ... They lifted, lowered, again the call, again it is necessary to raise. What is it done for? To embittered people. Calls are being made on behalf of the regional court that there will be a hearing today. People believe these messages, go to court, and there they have no idea that someone called, provoked people. They were raised specially, the families of the victims. People are in grief, and they are "invited." And this harassment comes from all sides. This is baiting.


Full video version of the appeal of Aman Tuleyev to the residents of Kuzbass:
Photos used:
https://ako.ru
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  1. Herculesic
    Herculesic 28 March 2018 14: 23
    +22
    "Everyone will be rewarded according to his merit: - I sincerely hope that it is the real culprits, and not the arrows, that will be found and punished, severely punished!
    1. Vend
      Vend 28 March 2018 14: 38
      +16
      I did not know that Tuleev’s niece had died in the center. Yes, there are so many provocateurs now and not only in Kemerovo. There will be a lot of work SK.
      1. Alena Frolovna
        Alena Frolovna 28 March 2018 14: 50
        +31
        Bat gathering

        "I’ll say a cruel word, it is caused by what is happening around Kemerovo trouble.

        The feeling is that numerous individuals from the home-grown liberal bastard, personally offended by the fact that they were surrounded in the president’s elections as they never dreamed of, decided that now they have a luxurious holiday where they can have fun and have fun. Together with them they dance their hopak on the bones and scumbags from the neighboring land, in whom in general any Russian pain causes an attack of demonic joy.

        For nonhumans, people are only consumables, even from their death, nonhumans love and know how to make themselves a tidbit.

        Of course, sour brains do not include the simple idea that such things never go in vain, and you will have to pay a lot for it. It is only a matter of time ..."
        https://marygrove.livejournal.com/

        The world is redistributed, intrigue ...

        Like many years ago ...
        So much power has been given, patience.
        Sometimes turn into hell
        Even the best aspirations in life.


        If they bite you,
        Someone will defend, but more often ...
        Silently “friends” will observe
        How ravens drag you to the cross.

        Someone will give nails to drive
        Your arms are stronger in the crucifix
        Someone will love more
        Pouring a tear on your dress ...

        The world of redivision, intrigue is terrible,
        A creepy rattle of envious jaws
        Poison injections poison peak,
        And hyenas of a voracious passion ...

        Lyudmila Larkina, February 13, 2018
    2. sogdy
      sogdy 28 March 2018 14: 52
      +2
      Quote: Herkulesich
      I sincerely hope that these are the real culprits,

      It will be hundreds of minor violations. Only if they can unequivocally prove the arson.
    3. vlad66
      vlad66 28 March 2018 14: 53
      +17
      Quote: Herkulesich
      will be found and punished - severely punished!

      It is necessary to punish everyone and those who issued permission to re-equip the building under the mall and firefighters who checked for the availability of money in the envelope, and not for work and closed exits. But such
      Two times anonymous calls: "mine is mined." Well, what order ... We are obliged to raise the miners. Just raised - checked - let go. Just let it down - again. Calls come in the Antonovskaya mine. 27th (March) - Polosukhinskaya mine ... Raised, lowered, again the bell, again it is necessary to raise. Why is this done? To embitter people. There are calls on behalf of the regional court that there will be hearings allegedly today

      Here it is necessary to hang up such ringleaders in public. M.razi is not people.
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 28 March 2018 15: 07
        +3
        Quote: vlad66
        Here it is necessary to hang up such ringleaders in public.

        And how do you propose hanging foreign ringers? No, I do not mind, but how? Our liberal humanists in the Duma do not miss laws on the protection of the state ...
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 28 March 2018 15: 10
          +5
          Quote: sogdy
          How do foreign ring bells propose to hang? No, I do not mind, but how? N

          I agree with you, the problem yes or maybe a certain amount to offer for the head, they themselves will bring but here
          Quote: sogdy
          Our liberal humanists in the Duma do not miss the laws on the protection of the state

          request
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 29 March 2018 08: 19
        0
        It is also necessary to check the quality of the project for the re-equipment of the shopping center. But I suspect that the inspectors are sent with the appropriate qualifications and they better know where and what to check.
  2. antivirus
    antivirus 28 March 2018 14: 25
    +1
    With the closure of mines on the outskirts and Poland, the value and number of dough in Kuzbass is growing.
    There is interest to stick.
  3. Slovak
    Slovak 28 March 2018 14: 26
    +24
    Tuleyev wants to bow low? I ate such a carcass in the Kemerovo region that I can’t get up without three assistants. His companies supply us with coal in Slovakia, and each supply is 30% kickback. The country is so small that only the prosecutor’s office does not know about it.
    1. nikolaev
      nikolaev 28 March 2018 14: 33
      +3
      Usually people eating on their food "eat away the carcass".
      1. nikolaev
        nikolaev 28 March 2018 14: 35
        +4
        that is, there are a lot of carbohydrates and fats in the diet, and expensive components: meat, fish, caviar in small quantities.
        1. Kosmotoga
          Kosmotoga 28 March 2018 14: 45
          0
          this is called not economical and not proper nutrition. wink
    2. maxim947
      maxim947 28 March 2018 14: 36
      +22
      Tuleyev wants to bow low? I ate such a carcass in the Kemerovo region that I can’t get up without three assistants. His companies supply us with coal in Slovakia, and each supply is 30% kickback. The country is so small that only the prosecutor’s office does not know about it.

      You look like the troll mentioned in the article.
      By the way, Tuleyev has long lost weight, and much, but from Slovakia, probably imperceptibly ...
    3. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 28 March 2018 14: 39
      +34
      Quote: Slovak
      Ate such a carcass in Kemerovo

      What are you talking about? Nobody ate anything on us. And instead of balabolit the utter nonsense, it would be better to keep silent, for a clever one. Tuleyev headed the region when people really couldn’t buy anything, there was complete lawlessness. He pulled the region out of the abyss. I remember it well. Honor him and praise for it. And if you don’t know, then his weight is due to diabetes, but he can’t walk because of a complicated operation. But he continues to work. Our region is very complicated and without knowing it you don’t need to indulge in problems, kickbacks, etc.! Everywhere there’s enough shit if you dig around! And if the price of coal doesn’t suit you, then let your Slovakia buy from the Americans or drown your dung. You are all great there now!
      1. Slovak
        Slovak 28 March 2018 14: 44
        +5
        Of course, of course, I'm sorry, I did not know that kickbacks from coal (up to 700 000 from the party) go to the aid of the working people. But why through Belize?
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 28 March 2018 14: 48
          +2
          Quote: Slovak
          that kickbacks from coal

          You better enlighten for that rollback?
          1. Slovak
            Slovak 28 March 2018 15: 47
            +2
            Refund of the difference between the stated in the contract and the actual.
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 28 March 2018 16: 14
              0
              Quote: Slovak
              Refund of the difference between the stated in the contract and the actual.

              That is, the contract price is cheaper?
            2. Dart2027
              Dart2027 28 March 2018 19: 36
              0
              Quote: Slovak
              Refund of the difference between the stated in the contract and the actual.

              Is there a source?
        2. astronom1973n
          astronom1973n 28 March 2018 15: 19
          +10
          Quote: Slovak
          Of course, of course, I'm sorry, I did not know that kickbacks from coal (up to 700 000 from the party) go to the aid of the working people. But why through Belize?

          You didn’t get it, did you carry it around? And they all told you what and how. Shut up already! Chatterbox.
          1. Slovak
            Slovak 28 March 2018 15: 46
            +1
            Is it from the company of the supplier, the sufferer? Are you for the truth, or tongue scratching something? I am redeeming for the enterprise from the thermal station, which is the contract holder, therefore I know the price of the contract, the actual and the amount of the rollback. This is not a star to consider the astronomer, it is not very hidden.
            1. astronom1973n
              astronom1973n 28 March 2018 15: 56
              +13
              Quote: Slovak
              Is it from the company of the supplier, the sufferer? Are you for the truth, or tongue scratching something? I am redeeming for the enterprise from the thermal station, which is the contract holder, therefore I know the price of the contract, the actual and the amount of the rollback. This is not a star to consider the astronomer, it is not very hidden.

              Drown dizzy in your Europe. And do not take corrupt ones from us, suddenly get poisoned, it's dangerous. Know all.
              1. Slovak
                Slovak 28 March 2018 22: 09
                0
                Cheburashka, and what side are you on there? Did we plow?
                1. astronom1973n
                  astronom1973n 29 March 2018 05: 08
                  +4
                  Quote: Slovak
                  Cheburashka, and what side are you on there? Did we plow?

                  And they plowed and wrote. But mainly so that people like you do not write all the nonsense. And an avatar so that you don’t get scared right away. I understand, of course, that Cheburashka is unusual for you, the bare ass is more understandable to you.
        3. Dashout
          Dashout 28 March 2018 16: 10
          +8
          Quote: Slovak
          Of course, of course, I'm sorry, I did not know that kickbacks from coal (up to 700 000 from the party) go to the aid of the working people. But why through Belize?

          Chatterbox!
          Chatterbox and provocateur!
          1. Slovak
            Slovak 28 March 2018 22: 07
            0
            Quote: Dashout
            Quote: Slovak
            Of course, of course, I'm sorry, I did not know that kickbacks from coal (up to 700 000 from the party) go to the aid of the working people. But why through Belize?

            Chatterbox!
            Chatterbox and provocateur!

            Yes, the flag is in your hands, General. There is a fact, like, dislike, but so for many years.
    4. Kosmotoga
      Kosmotoga 28 March 2018 14: 42
      +3
      maybe because he can’t get up to 74 of the year?
      1. tomket
        tomket 28 March 2018 15: 08
        +9
        Quote: Kosmotoga
        maybe because he can’t get up to 74 of the year?

        If a person is so old and can't get up? Maybe he will be better off in retirement and in the hospital, and not in the chair of the governor? or will we wait for the next "boobs-masisek"?
        1. Kosmotoga
          Kosmotoga 28 March 2018 16: 29
          +2
          definitely young way.
    5. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 28 March 2018 14: 49
      +13
      Slovak
      Tuleyev wants to bow low? I ate such a carcass in the Kemerovo region that I can’t get up without three assistants.

      Do not judge by yourself, Tuleyeva Kuzbass has been known as the governor since 1997 for more than a dozen years, and most residents of the Kemerovo region are grateful to him for his care and work (even despite the deterioration of his health recently) in the name of the welfare of ordinary people of Kuzbass.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 29 March 2018 09: 47
        0
        So maybe you should have left the post already, not pulled to the last, so that in a difficult situation the region would not be left without a head.
        Nobody takes away former merits, but is it okay to reach out to people? suddenly it became frightening - what to attack? You can’t get out - address people on television or radio from the bed, now you can arrange a direct connection everywhere. It is not a matter of guilt, it is a matter of attitude to people, but the children died mainly, our future, and we are all responsible for them from the moment of growing up, and those in power are doubly powerful.
    6. Dreamboat
      Dreamboat 28 March 2018 14: 51
      +13
      And you fellows, jumped ... all mines in Eastern Europe were closed at the request of German owners. Buy coal in Germany without kickbacks! You can buy in Australia or Africa, as the outskirts ...
    7. Ushly_bashkort
      Ushly_bashkort 28 March 2018 14: 58
      +5
      After illness he began to look like that, in fairness. I do not defend, but blaming so indiscriminately is also not buzzing.
  4. Million
    Million 28 March 2018 14: 34
    +9
    A decent person would have resigned!
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 28 March 2018 14: 49
      +2
      Quote: Million
      would have already resigned!

      Why did it happen?
      Quote: Million
      Honest man

      Interestingly, do you relate to them?
      1. Sgt.
        Sgt. 28 March 2018 15: 01
        +5
        Stop eating in your head, you need it not only for this ...
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 28 March 2018 15: 10
          0
          Quote: Sergeant
          Stop eating in your head, it is not only for this ...

          Do you also consider yourself decent?
    2. Sgt.
      Sgt. 28 March 2018 14: 59
      +7
      Where did you see decent ones ???
    3. tomket
      tomket 28 March 2018 15: 06
      +9
      Quote: Million
      A decent person would have resigned!

      I’m wondering, what's the point of a governor who, due to his health condition, cannot fully perform his duties? Just because he is a very respected person?
      1. Million
        Million 28 March 2018 15: 11
        +6
        "On September 13, 2015 he was re-elected head of the Kuzbass, gaining 96,69% of the vote"
        He is in authority. Until he dies in the workplace, the position will not leave
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 29 March 2018 09: 50
          0
          I could not run for the post - imagine a successor, leave ahead of schedule in a couple of years, authority is good, but in the end dying at the post - it means throwing everyone at a crossroads
      2. cats
        cats 28 March 2018 16: 06
        +4
        Quote: tomket
        Just because he is a very respected person?

        Because the head works.
        Which one do you need? To run fast and pretty?
  5. Black water
    Black water 28 March 2018 14: 41
    +3
    So long ago it’s time to appeal to people, to clarify that the situation is specially heating up, to show who is heating up and how ....... well, our people are naive, they believe that they are being called from the prosecutor’s office, the Ministry of Emergencies, police, etc. .... . are verified and maintained. So it’s time to carry out explanatory work with the population, so that the provocateurs are detained, conversations are recorded, at least they asked for a position, full name ..... carefully watched the certificate ..... people need to be taught !!! .. move, explain, otherwise we’ll break our forehead and learn from mistakes.
  6. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 28 March 2018 14: 47
    +13
    Bloodsuckers.
    Take advantage of their position by 200% - they have attached their children and other matchmakers and uncles to the right lines of business. Competitors strangled by checks and fabricated cases. Well done! But this is not enough, they also save on the lives of ordinary people.
    In all profitable shopping and entertainment centers (trade and entertainment complexes), human flows rising to the upper floors are required to bypass all retail outlets around the perimeter, because the escalator is on the rise on one side, and on the descent at the other end of the floor.
    Capitalism is nothing personal. Unfortunately, human blood is simple water for local hosts of life,
    grist more important of life!
    PS In the USSR, for a long time there was a major tragedy - people burned out in the cinema, because during the design, they made a fatal mistake. The exit doors from the hall opened inward.
    Enough once, they punished the guilty, re-planned all the cinema halls in the country where such miscalculations were made.
    But at the same time, not a single lesson will be taken into account!
    $ is stronger than our desire to live.
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 28 March 2018 15: 38
      +4
      There, it is necessary for all those in power to ask for forgiveness as a whole, such centers cannot be opened for ordinary businessman, there is clearly an administrative resource, as in all networks, etc. And entrepreneurs who really build something on their money are tortured by requisitions, approvals and checks, I know by hearsay and believe me everything is working fine and usually works fine.
      1. cats
        cats 28 March 2018 16: 08
        +3
        Quote: lis-ik
        There is power to all

        Sorry, why there?
        Where exactly? Do you think only in Kemerovo shopping centers are on fire?
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 28 March 2018 16: 10
          +2
          Quote: Kotovsky
          Quote: lis-ik
          There is power to all

          Sorry, why there?
          Where exactly? Do you think only in Kemerovo shopping centers are on fire?

          I meant throughout the country and the government in particular.
    2. XXXIII
      XXXIII 28 March 2018 17: 07
      0
      Quote: Comrade Kim
      Bloodsuckers.
      Take advantage of their position by 200% - they have attached their children and other matchmakers and uncles to the right lines of business. Competitors strangled by checks and fabricated cases. Well done! But this is not enough, they also save on the lives of ordinary people.
      In all profitable shopping and entertainment centers (trade and entertainment complexes), human flows rising to the upper floors are required to bypass all retail outlets around the perimeter, because the escalator is on the rise on one side, and on the descent at the other end of the floor.
      Capitalism is nothing personal. Unfortunately, human blood is simple water for local hosts of life,
      profit is more important than life!

      It’s precisely noticed, they call it marketing, so that the client entering the store goes through it all for convenience and can’t turn it nowhere while he walks, buys and spends more. ... In general, something like this looks like the rules of our stores ..... hi
  7. Hiw
    Hiw 28 March 2018 14: 49
    +11
    and here the fuckers are provocateurs and how many died, and even if 10 people died, the Tuleev is still to blame. They were appointed to this post - so that they would ensure the safety of the people, of every person .... whether it be 67 or 300 people or even one person. It is these officials who are responsible for ensuring that due checks are carried out so that shopping centers are not opened for bribes in the absence of fire safety measures, it is they who are personally responsible so that evacuation passages are opened in all buildings. You SSuki at least do not sleep at night but provide security in places of residence and public crowds, and fire and safety from terrorists. And on the other - Ichida to the north, for which you still have to pay a salary which of our taxes ??? .
    Tuleev must sit and no other options
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 28 March 2018 14: 55
      +3
      Quote: HIW
      and here the fuckers are provocateurs and how many died, and even if 10 people died, the Tuleev is still to blame. They were appointed to this post - so that they would ensure the safety of the people, of every person .... whether it be 67 or 300 people or even one person. It is these officials who are responsible for ensuring that due checks are carried out so that shopping centers are not opened for bribes in the absence of fire safety measures, it is they who are personally responsible so that evacuation passages are opened in all buildings. You SSuki at least do not sleep at night but provide security in places of residence and public crowds, and fire and safety from terrorists. And on the other - Ichida to the north, for which you still have to pay a salary which of our taxes ??? .
      Tuleev must sit and no other options


      Where does the quote come from?
      1. Oden280
        Oden280 28 March 2018 17: 02
        +2
        From a new training manual
    2. cats
      cats 28 March 2018 16: 12
      +5
      Quote: HIW
      Tuleev must sit and no other options

      And let's put everyone in prison ...
      In general, everyone, from Putin to the guard, and in every city, in advance, what ..
      Ask for Putin or Tuleyev? Just think, otherwise you’ll be planted too .. fool
  8. tomket
    tomket 28 March 2018 14: 58
    +3
    I may not understand something, but I would like to ask, what do law enforcement agencies do? Or can they only track schoolchildren who make mining calls so that the control does not write?
    The head of the region reports that harassment is ongoing, regular calls are being received, or does Putin need local law enforcement departments to tone up? To start working.
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 28 March 2018 15: 22
      +2
      Quote: tomket
      I may not understand something

      Read about SIP telephony. And do not get to the bottom of busy people.
    2. Kosmotoga
      Kosmotoga 28 March 2018 16: 34
      +1
      law enforcement agencies are the same as any structure in our country. There are people for the idea, and there are those that today is a bribe and tomorrow at least the world is in ruin. Therefore, heroism is adjacent to negligence.
  9. Hiw
    Hiw 28 March 2018 15: 01
    +6
    Quote: Black Water
    So long ago it’s time to appeal to people, to clarify that the situation is specially heating up, to show who is heating up and how ....... well, our people are naive, they believe that they are being called from the prosecutor’s office, the Ministry of Emergencies, police, etc. .... . are verified and maintained. So it’s time to carry out explanatory work with the population, so that the provocateurs are detained, conversations are recorded, at least they asked for a position, full name ..... carefully watched the certificate ..... people need to be taught !!! .. move, explain, otherwise we’ll break our forehead and learn from mistakes.

    what are you? from oak collapsed? where does the incandescence of the situation? people died, even if not 300, but 64 people, but even if 1 person died, Tuleev is to blame, let the arrows not be translated. But what comes out - if not 300 people died but only 60 then everything is in order ??? It is Tuleyev and his officials who are responsible for the order in the city, they are obliged to check everything for safety and to ensure that such shopping centers would not be taken into operation without a fire system. They are completely guilty, criminally guilty
    1. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 28 March 2018 15: 22
      +10
      Quote: HIW
      It is Tuleyev and his officials who are responsible for the order in the city, they are obliged to check everything for safety and to ensure that such shopping centers would not be taken into operation without a fire system. They are completely guilty, criminally guilty

      You know everything! google? Go pimple squeeze out and frame the natural needs! Without you ignoramus we will understand the region.
      1. Black water
        Black water 28 March 2018 15: 38
        +2
        Sergey, he is just imprisoned against Tuleev ...
        1. B.T.V.
          B.T.V. 28 March 2018 15: 43
          +4
          Quote: Black Water
          Sergey, he is just imprisoned against Tuleev ...


          He is "imprisoned" on: "against all that is bad, for all that is good." Read his comments on other articles. There even sounds the slogan: "Down with the government."
          1. astronom1973n
            astronom1973n 28 March 2018 15: 45
            +3
            Quote: B.T.W.
            There even sounds the slogan: "Down with the government."

            I hope they come for him. It's time.
    2. Black water
      Black water 28 March 2018 15: 37
      +2
      I do not care about Tuleyev, I care about human simplicity and naivety .... You carefully read the article and my comment ......
      1. cats
        cats 28 March 2018 16: 15
        +4
        Quote: Black Water
        You carefully read the article and my comment ......

        They read that you are wrong, brown water ..
        1. Black water
          Black water 28 March 2018 16: 36
          0
          You are not even a troll, you are just a boor ....
    3. patsak
      patsak 29 March 2018 13: 09
      0
      It is not the governor who is responsible for the order in the city, but the mayor of this city, i.e. municipal official. Under Russian law, the mayor of the city does not directly report to the regional governor. Under the same legislation, the governor is not entitled to directly intervene in the work of municipal authorities. By the way, neither the power nor the control and oversight bodies of the region are directly subordinate to the governor. So before dabbling with your emotions, exhale and calmly assess the situation, you may stop appointing the perpetrators.
  10. Hiw
    Hiw 28 March 2018 15: 03
    0
    Quote: nikolaev
    Usually people eating on their food "eat away the carcass".

    yeah, it is, but ... also those who have an overwhelming sense of proportion from delicacies
  11. Hiw
    Hiw 28 March 2018 15: 08
    +2
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Quote: HIW
    and here the fuckers are provocateurs and how many died, and even if 10 people died, the Tuleev is still to blame. They were appointed to this post - so that they would ensure the safety of the people, of every person .... whether it be 67 or 300 people or even one person. It is these officials who are responsible for ensuring that due checks are carried out so that shopping centers are not opened for bribes in the absence of fire safety measures, it is they who are personally responsible so that evacuation passages are opened in all buildings. You SSuki at least do not sleep at night but provide security in places of residence and public crowds, and fire and safety from terrorists. And on the other - Ichida to the north, for which you still have to pay a salary which of our taxes ??? .
    Tuleev must sit and no other options


    Where does the quote come from?

    what other quote - I just wrote it myself, and if you do not believe it, then copy the text and hammer it into the search engine - it will give you possible options for quotes. But in general - you have to look at the gist, are you? against the fact that officials should be responsible for our security and for the fact that such centers would be taken for bribes without fire-fighting measures? And then right away - where does the quote come from, ...... but in essence, see the lack of time ???
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 28 March 2018 15: 26
      +1
      Quote: HIW
      They were appointed to this post - so that they would ensure the safety of the people, of every person .... whether it be 67 or 300 people or even one person. It is these officials who are responsible for ensuring that due checks are carried out so that shopping centers are not opened for bribes in the absence of fire safety measures, it is they who are personally responsible so that evacuation passages are opened in all buildings. You SSuki at least do not sleep at night but provide in places of residence and

      Well, I read these texts almost under a carbon copy.
      Now explain what you are trying to oblige officials in the absence of laws not adopted by the Duma? Not accepted with the filing of liberals.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 29 March 2018 10: 04
        0
        Quote: sogdy
        Now explain what you are trying to oblige officials in the absence of laws not adopted by the Duma? Not accepted with the filing of liberals.

        Laws all exist - like responsibilities, opportunities, powers. Another thing is that for plebs they are used to the full extent, and power holders belong to another caste, untouchable caste. They create conditions for themselves, benefits and protection. In which case they are swapped, but they almost never plant, do not confiscate, and do not even dig deeply - on what means do they live in their "palaces"
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 29 March 2018 14: 36
          0
          Quote: Corsair
          and powerholders belong to another caste, untouchable caste. They create conditions for themselves, benefits and protection.

          Are you from this caste and can confirm as an eyewitness, and not "from the words"?
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 30 March 2018 11: 24
            0
            I am not from this caste, but I came across such things in my life and saw real consequences that had passed them on occasion, but would not have passed any other representative not from the "nobles", "boyars" and other "masters of life".
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 30 March 2018 14: 08
              0
              Quote: Corsair
              but faced with such in life and saw the real consequences that passed them on occasion,

              That is, information is not first-hand, and not even second-hand. Evidence not accepted in court ...
    2. patsak
      patsak 29 March 2018 13: 18
      0
      I look at the essence. I try to answer for my safety on my own and always remember the wise thought from “Dog’s Heart”: “... the devastation is not in the closets, but in the heads. So, when these baritones shout“ beat the devastation! ” "I laugh. I swear to you, it’s ridiculous! This means that each of them has to hit his neck! And when he hatches out all kinds of hallucinations and cleans up the sheds - with his direct business - the ruin will disappear by itself."
  12. Black Guard
    Black Guard 28 March 2018 15: 09
    +1
    Khan sat up.
  13. Hort
    Hort 28 March 2018 15: 18
    +6
    to ask the President for forgiveness instead of addressing people, especially since the relative herself died - this, ska, is a strong "managerial" decision
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 15: 32
      0
      powerful, although there my mother-in-law probably disappeared. But the truth is, what can people not ask for forgiveness?
    2. Prometey
      Prometey 29 March 2018 19: 54
      0
      Quote: hort
      apologize to the President instead of addressing people

      So forgiveness for what? Like, I'm sorry that we have, and not somewhere in the neighbors. ... It would be better to keep silent.
  14. gippernano
    gippernano 28 March 2018 15: 30
    0
    Let them justify that it’s not so, they presented, answer, there are no arguments, go to London
  15. shark
    shark 28 March 2018 15: 32
    +10
    It seems to me that the liberals have crossed the red line. There was a tacit civil contract. Liberota boiled in its own juice, and did not pretend to our ideas about life. No, of course, periodically, from their swamps croaking was unpleasant to the ear, but these are trifles. And so the liberota “occupied” on the bodies of our citizens, our children. Yesterday I climbed into the echo, read the comments and I had a question - in what dimension do these "people" live in general. And is there a limit to this hatred that they pour on us, on our values. And is it necessary to consider yourself bound by this “civil contract” in relation to them? Personally, I decided for myself that I’m not connected. I do not urge them to hang up on poles. Although it was worth it. But this is a criminal. But to endure among normal people, these spit "democracy" is probably already impossible
  16. friend of animals
    friend of animals 28 March 2018 15: 35
    +5
    People believe rumors because they do not believe the local authorities. Moreover, after such a disaster, which is not an accident, but a consequence of the corruption of the city authorities. And it is necessary to check not only the fire hazard of shopping centers throughout the country, but also how permits for the construction and operation of buildings throughout the country are issued.
    Not a Kemerovo citizen, but if you trite to dig on the Internet about Tuleyev and the Tuley circle, it turns out that there were a lot of scandals and dark affairs. Which, in principle, is the norm for the country, any governor considers the region to be his patrimony, with which you can feed.
  17. Hiw
    Hiw 28 March 2018 15: 40
    +1
    Quote: astronom1973n
    Quote: HIW
    It is Tuleyev and his officials who are responsible for the order in the city, they are obliged to check everything for safety and to ensure that such shopping centers would not be taken into operation without a fire system. They are completely guilty, criminally guilty

    You know everything! google? Go pimple squeeze out and frame the natural needs! Without you ignoramus we will understand the region.

    Yes, yes, usually when there are no arguments, they begin to be rude, and this immediately gives the level of a person. And if you answer the facts, then there are not enough brains - just go squeeze a pimple. You dear, if you want to give arguments against my opinion, then bring it, and if there are no arguments, then do not disgrace with your unreasoned and rude answer
    1. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 28 March 2018 15: 49
      +3
      Quote: HIW
      You dear, if you want to give arguments against my opinion, then bring it, and if there are no arguments, then do not disgrace with your unreasoned and rude answer

      So I write the answer to your nonsense: “Go pimple squeeze!” Squeezed out? Go straighten up the natural needs. You have a hit. It turns out better than writing on adult topics. Chatterbox.
  18. Hiw
    Hiw 28 March 2018 15: 44
    +1
    Quote: sogdy
    Quote: HIW
    They were appointed to this post - so that they would ensure the safety of the people, of every person .... whether it be 67 or 300 people or even one person. It is these officials who are responsible for ensuring that due checks are carried out so that shopping centers are not opened for bribes in the absence of fire safety measures, it is they who are personally responsible so that evacuation passages are opened in all buildings. You SSuki at least do not sleep at night but provide in places of residence and

    Well, I read these texts almost under a carbon copy.
    Now explain what you are trying to oblige officials in the absence of laws not adopted by the Duma? Not accepted with the filing of liberals.

    what kind of liberals, you just don’t bother me with nonsense - in the State Duma the majority is a united Russia, the party of thieves, the Communists have brought up for consideration - the investigation of the affairs of senior officials and by a majority vote against. And in general - what? local officials still need some sort of instruction to walk around public places and check fire safety, you laugh me nafig, where does the liberals take bribes and they can’t tear assholes away from armchairs ???
    1. someoneV
      someoneV 28 March 2018 16: 25
      0
      I read komenty, so much hatred, confidence in my truth, to shoot, crush, plant everyone. This is how you all “see” justice, without investigation, the court, you decided everything, distributed it to everyone. Now think for a moment, does it remind you if age allows that people like you behaved when the USSR collapsed, were also ready to kill, shoot, and then in the 90s bathed in shit, I wanted to repeat. Before you blame someone, you need to have proof of the guilt of the one you blame and not shout with all your anger. It is clear that the example of the Englishwoman is contagious.
    2. sogdy
      sogdy 28 March 2018 19: 50
      +1
      Quote: HIW
      Communists have brought for examination - the investigation of top-level corruption officials

      Quote: someoneV
      Before you blame someone, you need to have proof of the guilt of the one you blame and not shout with all your anger. It is clear that the example of the Englishwoman is contagious.
  19. Ingvar0401
    Ingvar0401 28 March 2018 16: 11
    +2
    In truth, the head of the Ministry of Emergencies, Puchkov, was to be the first to kneel. It is his subordinates to blame .....
    1. cats
      cats 28 March 2018 16: 17
      +3
      Quote: Ingvar0401
      In truth, the head of the Ministry of Emergencies, Puchkov, was to be the first to kneel. It is his subordinates to blame .....

      Would it be easier for you, from Puchkov’s lap?
    2. tomket
      tomket 28 March 2018 16: 18
      0
      Quote: Ingvar0401
      In truth, the head of the Ministry of Emergencies, Puchkov, was to be the first to kneel. It is his subordinates to blame .....

      It is not necessary to thump on your knees, but to carry out the work and be responsible for it.
  20. Kosmotoga
    Kosmotoga 28 March 2018 16: 40
    +1
    Putin: why did they let an object that failed to fulfill the requirements to work?

    Bundles: vacation for small business.

    Putin: what does the vacation have to do with it !? is it security !? holidays and safety is a big difference

    Bundles: silence.

    Putin: After what you say to me, I want to not cry but to sob
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 29 March 2018 10: 09
      0
      In my opinion, a huge shopping center with cinemas and a large number of shops is not a small business at all, there probably millions are spinning daily, the landlord receives less, of course, but still does not attract small businesses.
  21. dgonni
    dgonni 28 March 2018 18: 05
    0
    A terrible tragedy. Let those who have lost loved ones accept condolences. Well, as for the video message of Tuleyev, everything is simple. It was necessary to go out to people PERSONALLY! AND PERSONALLY communicate and not send a vice who does not solve anything. And 1001% all questions would disappear on the day of the rally. As for the arrival during the fire, I will say so. With a probability of 99 and 9 in the period, the Mchayniks stupidly did not report on the extent of what was happening. Like a whisker under control, although it was not at all like that.
  22. Zomanus
    Zomanus 29 March 2018 00: 12
    0
    Well, remember the shaft of calls from Ukraine about the mining of shopping centers throughout Russia.
    Everything is exactly the same.
    And if we cannot influence citizens from the neighboring,
    then we can close our bread-makers with our screamers.
  23. Maverick1812
    Maverick1812 29 March 2018 07: 29
    0
    The Kremlin has decided not to hold Tuleev’s demonstrative resignation! Kusungobu is laid on the table ... a chance to make an independent and masculine decision !!!
  24. Prometey
    Prometey 29 March 2018 07: 39
    +1
    People are in grief, and they are "invited." And this persecution is coming from all directions. This is bullying.
    What prevents the authorities from working ahead of gossip and rumors, using all information resources - explaining, supporting people? And then only the facts state, but shrug as impotent.
  25. Clueless
    Clueless 29 March 2018 11: 30
    0
    A rare scum our governor, the great and terrible Tuleyev.
    Then he gave the go-ahead to the opening of many cuts, and then curses on TV - and who allowed them?
    He told Putin that there were 200 people on the square of the Busoters who were not related to the dead, such as the Buseters and the opposition. And on an area of ​​more than 1500 people (there was a live broadcast through YouTube).
    Then his deputy first announces in a PR man, whose wife and children were burned there, and then kneels in the square (it is logical, Putin was in Kemerovo at that time).
    Those. according to the logic of this old senility, if people are the opposition, no one has died in their family, then you need to sit at home and haul the game that broadcasts his senile majesty.
    He wasn’t even at the rally, he didn’t appear at the shopping center, he was recommended not to be there.
    When will all these officials get drunk enough and people will stop suffering for them :( For officials gave permission to the shopping center that with a fire all the bunches are fire inspectors, etc. That’s why Kemerovo went to a rally

    For Kuzbass remember the current when either the miners die, or the children. The rest of the time, for Russia we are just a large territory with a bunch of harmful industry, and dough, which all goes to the center and the next officials and oligarchs.
    Sorry, boiling up :(
    1. Prometey
      Prometey 29 March 2018 19: 50
      0
      Quote: Bad
      A rare scum our governor, the great and terrible Tuleyev.
      Then he gave the go-ahead to the opening of many cuts, and then curses on TV - and who allowed them?
      He told Putin that there were 200 people on the square of the Busoters who were not related to the dead, such as the Buseters and the opposition. And on an area of ​​more than 1500 people (there was a live broadcast through YouTube).
      Then his deputy first announces in a PR man, whose wife and children were burned there, and then kneels in the square (it is logical, Putin was in Kemerovo at that time).
      Those. according to the logic of this old senility, if people are the opposition, no one has died in their family, then you need to sit at home and haul the game that broadcasts his senile majesty.
      He wasn’t even at the rally, he didn’t appear at the shopping center, he was recommended not to be there.
      When will all these officials get drunk enough and people will stop suffering for them :( For officials gave permission to the shopping center that with a fire all the bunches are fire inspectors, etc. That’s why Kemerovo went to a rally

      For Kuzbass remember the current when either the miners die, or the children. The rest of the time, for Russia we are just a large territory with a bunch of harmful industry, and dough, which all goes to the center and the next officials and oligarchs.
      Sorry, boiling up :(

      Scum or not - you, of course, know better. But at a meeting before Putin, it was a wretched speech. It’s sickening to listen.
  26. Clueless
    Clueless 29 March 2018 11: 34
    +2
    Quote: hort
    to ask the President for forgiveness instead of addressing people, especially since the relative herself died - this, ska, is a strong "managerial" decision


    The lack of care in its purest form. For the governor is not the people, but the president appoints
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  28. tank64rus
    tank64rus 29 March 2018 20: 22
    0
    A lot of work for the FSB and the UK. Without strangling provocateurs in the bud.