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National Interest: Russian Su-35 and MiG-35 are good only "on paper"

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Russian Su-35 and MiG-35 are well-placed only on paper, and not in reality, according to The National Interest.


National Interest: Russian Su-35 and MiG-35 are good only "on paper"


Russian fighters offer good results on paper, but India is disappointed with poor after-sales support and frequent malfunctions of most Russian equipment, including on MiG-29 and Su-30МКИ aircraft,
quoted by the author Lenta.ru report.

In addition, he said, “Indian officials are increasingly becoming disillusioned with the Su-57, publicly complaining about low-power engines, the low stealthness of the fighter and the lack of transparency regarding what is behind these problems.”

In this regard, the publication believes that the American F-35 or F / A-18E / F Super Hornet "had good chances to become the next super-weapon of the Indian Air Force."

The magazine reminds that India is in search of a twin-engine fighter and "considers the American F / A-18E / F Super Hornet, Eurofighter Typhoon, the French Rafale and the Russian Su-35 or MiG-35 as candidates."

In February, 2018 of National Interest wrote the exact opposite. He reported that the F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II pilots of the US Air Force "have few chances to stand against the Su-35 in close combat." The Russian fighter was called “perhaps the best combat vehicle ever created in the line of sight”.
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  1. rpuropuu
    rpuropuu 28 March 2018 09: 23
    +33
    In February 2018, the National Interest wrote the exact opposite. He reported that the pilots of the F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II US Air Force "have little chance of surviving the Su-35 in close combat."
    The whole point of journalism recourse
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 09: 27
      +25
      Ordering for pushing mattresses letaki. Another example of "fair" competition from the United States.
      1. volodya
        volodya 28 March 2018 09: 31
        +13
        What's the matter? Let them buy fu - 35! Then they will paraffin it!
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 28 March 2018 09: 41
          +8
          In this regard, the publication believes that the American F-35 or F / A-18E / F Super Hornet "had good chances to become the next superweapon of the Indian Air Force."

          Here is the answer yes The advertisement is engine of the trade. winked
          1. DMoroz
            DMoroz 28 March 2018 11: 07
            +5
            The mattresses will give them more money to advertise their flyers in a two-part Indian film about the unfortunate love of “rich F-35” and “poor Su-57” with songs, dances and an unfortunate ending for the “last” ... laughing
        2. Dreamboat
          Dreamboat 28 March 2018 15: 24
          +1
          “We didn’t use the Su-35, but since we saved on the Su-30mki after-sales service system and crap with the Su-57 contract, we will scold him as well ...” “The Su-30mki are bad planes, they don’t eat hay like elephants, the general’s you won’t take the turban ... "here it is, the position of India
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 28 March 2018 09: 36
        +15
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Ordering for pushing mattresses letaki.

        rather, they simply knock down the price. Indians are still traders.
        Hi Pavel hi
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 09: 39
          +3
          Sergei hi
          Quote: LSA57
          Indians are still traders

          As I wrote below:
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          So let's see if the Indians manage to pat the nerves of mattresses. wink
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 28 March 2018 09: 52
            +2
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            As I wrote below:

            did not see, distracted. recourse
            1. _MaX_
              _MaX_ 28 March 2018 10: 34
              +1
              This is a common thing. Remember how many conversations all-rounders had about and without about the F-22. That he does not fly, that he is made of cardboard. And nothing. So here - one half will say URA, the other that this plane does not actually fly. And the third one which will simply be watched from the side.
      3. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 28 March 2018 09: 36
        +3
        Weathervane, in one word. What they pay for is printed. Democracy, however.
        1. MadCat
          MadCat 28 March 2018 10: 06
          +1
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Weathervane, in one word. What they pay for is printed. Democracy, however.

          is this publication funded from Russia, and if they dare to criticize, maybe not everything is so rosy in the Danish kingdom?
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 28 March 2018 10: 20
            +6
            MadCat Today, 10:06 ↑
            this publication is funded from Russia
            About how, and by whom, if not secret? Is the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation?
            And then, even if there is some truth in your words, then what is liberal liberal shit with bad money in Russia?
            1. Korax71
              Korax71 28 March 2018 12: 26
              -1
              Liberalism proclaims the rights and freedoms of each person as the supreme value and establishes them as the legal basis of social and economic order. Moreover, the ability of the state and the church to influence the life of society is limited by the constitution. The most important freedoms in modern liberalism are the freedom to speak out publicly, the freedom to choose a religion, the freedom to choose representatives in fair and free elections. In economic terms, the principles of liberalism are the inviolability of private property, freedom of trade and business. In legal terms, the principles of liberalism are the rule of law over the will of rulers and the equality of all citizens before the law, regardless of their wealth, position and influence. Under this definition, neither the party in power nor others like it. State corporations like to finance the media. . hi
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 28 March 2018 15: 41
                +1
                Quote: Korax71
                Liberalism Proclaims

                And from whom? Everything that you so vehemently “proclaim” is missing from you, we always had it.
      4. Basil50
        Basil50 28 March 2018 09: 38
        +12
        The described is very reminiscent of the situation with Yugoslavia, when they began to make claims to RUSSIA and abandon contracts, showing * solidarity * with Western experts. What not many people remember today, more often they talk about * betrayal *, and not about what * carried * towards RUSSIA Milosevic and other Yugoslavs.
        By the way, Gaddafi also presented claims and broke contracts.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 09: 49
          +4
          good Give your words to the Indians to read. And not just them. wink
          1. s352
            s352 28 March 2018 16: 05
            +1
            They will learn how to read, be sure to read laughing
        2. alaarsen
          alaarsen 28 March 2018 13: 43
          0
          And you don’t take into account that there is Russia, but there are some Russian (or maybe not at all with dual citizenship) businessmen .. who can run contracts that are beneficial to them personally ... trying to strip off like sticky .. I do not say, but I assume that Milosevic, Gaddafi, or Lukashenko, for example, may be unpleasantly surprised by such attempts to warm up on the Allies ... we don’t know the details - for example, about the ban on the import of dairy products from Belarus .. and at the same time the excuses of the state official about the contract with Indonesia for the supply of fighters in exchange for. .. ".... Well, I will not now clarify the details of the contract, but this is not military products .."
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 28 March 2018 15: 43
            0
            Quote: alaarsen
            And you do not take into account that there is Russia, but there are some Russian (or maybe not at all - with dual citizenship) dealers .. who can sell contracts that are beneficial to them personally

            So do not conclude contracts with "dealers". So do not take into account.
      5. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 28 March 2018 09: 41
        +12
        Hello Pasha! hi And what did you expect from the "Social Interest"? This is a weather vane, whoever gives more attendants will write. Considering that the main “eHspert” is Dave Majumdar, and our defector Dmitry Simes is the publisher of the magazine, it’s very difficult to consider this publication to be at least a little bit serious analytics. This is such an American analogue of VO, where every schizophrenic who was not allowed to go to the army for a kilometer, imagines himself a military expert ... laughing
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 09: 47
          +6
          Lesha, salute! hi
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          And what did you expect from the "Social Interest"?

          I have not expected anything sane from this yellow edition of yellow for a long time. yes
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          This is such an American analogue of VO

          You do not insult IN. And then compared, you know, a sausage with a device. lol
          Mattresses have long dreamed of chopping off a fat piece in the form of the Indian market and are systematically working in this direction using all their “crystal-clear” methods. negative
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 28 March 2018 10: 14
            +5
            Yes, Pash, the Indians are pretzels. They want to eat the fish and sit on the appliance, so that at the same time they have everything, and preferably for free.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 10: 17
              +5
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              They want to eat the fish and sit on the appliance, so that at the same time they have everything, and preferably for free.

              I read these words and thought: "Who, besides the Indians, does this still remind me ???" lol
        2. lukewarm
          lukewarm 28 March 2018 10: 23
          +1
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          This is such an American analogue of VO, where every schizophrenic,

          laughing +100500
      6. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 28 March 2018 10: 14
        +1
        "" National Interest: Russian Su-35 and MiG-35 are only good "on paper" "
        Or buy American F-35s
        Expensive and do not fly !! laughing
        And it’s weak for Amers to fly on their DART advertised in Russia and show "something of their super-duper .." "
      7. NEXUS
        NEXUS 28 March 2018 13: 07
        +2
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        In this regard, the publication believes that the American F-35 or F / A-18E / F Super Hornet "had good chances to become the next super-weapon of the Indian Air Force."

        Pasha, do the Chinese play more honestly? VT-4 they PR, as the best tank in the world and the Chinese experts, in all seriousness said that the T-14 greatly loses their tank. Is it not black PR? And the Indians are not better with these eternal complaints, in order to negotiate better conditions ...
        They try to force us out of this market ... and play dirty. And everyone who is interested in this.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 13: 13
          +2
          So everyone wants to chop off a piece fatter from the pie, while actively working with his elbows: mattresses, and Chinese, and Russians. The question is different: where does the fair competition end and the dirty pushing of their Wishlist begins?
    2. Maz
      Maz 28 March 2018 10: 07
      0
      Let him give birth to something
    3. sgazeev
      sgazeev 28 March 2018 10: 24
      +1
      Quote: rpuropuu
      In February 2018, the National Interest wrote the exact opposite. He reported that the pilots of the F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II US Air Force "have little chance of surviving the Su-35 in close combat."
      The whole point of journalism recourse

      Well, buy the American 35th Indians and do not fool the mattresses. Expensive and cheerful. wassat
      1. jjj
        jjj 28 March 2018 10: 46
        0
        The American media work in that tone and in that system of evidence that is accessible to the American reader.
    4. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 11: 29
      0
      There is no chance to survive the battle, but we still won’t sell it to the Indians, the same plane as ours. Let the F-35 Lightning II buy and sit at home in them, because China has our Su-35s with low-power engines, and strong visibility
    5. Slovak
      Slovak 28 March 2018 13: 52
      0
      Quote: rpuropuu
      In February 2018, the National Interest wrote the exact opposite. He reported that the pilots of the F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II US Air Force "have little chance of surviving the Su-35 in close combat."
      The whole point of journalism recourse

      Hindus need technology, otherwise they come up with a million excuses. And mattress flyers flee from Russian aircraft racing
  2. Dormidont
    Dormidont 28 March 2018 09: 24
    0
    Test them on your own skin very soon
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 11: 35
      0
      No, well, if they didn’t see in their parades that they were mocking up their military-industrial complex, I would forgive them, and so let them buy the F-35 Lightning II and wait for the Chinese on the Su-35 flying to clean their chimney
  3. Topotun
    Topotun 28 March 2018 09: 24
    +4
    The opinion of India is not an indicator at all. Hindus guys are cunning, when it seems to them that they have not received anything - immediately messages of this type appear in the press .....
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 28 March 2018 09: 26
      +2
      They need to change trainers in training centers
    2. Hammerlock
      Hammerlock 28 March 2018 09: 41
      +2
      The opinion of India is not an indicator at all. Hindus guys are cunning, when it seems to them that they have not received anything - immediately messages of this type appear in the press .....

      gypsies ... find at least one difference
      1. gippernano
        gippernano 28 March 2018 11: 36
        0
        such work
    3. MadCat
      MadCat 28 March 2018 10: 09
      +2
      Quote: Topotun
      The opinion of India is not an indicator at all. Hindus guys are cunning, when it seems to them that they have not received anything - immediately messages of this type appear in the press .....

      Why not indicative? If they refuse future contracts, this "indicator" will feel very well all of Sukhoi, is there a larger client on the horizon besides the Indians? Do they even have these clients?
      1. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 28 March 2018 10: 29
        +2
        Quote: MadCat
        Why not indicative?

        I explain "on the fingers." The opinion of the Indians about the Su-57, this is not an indicator of its actual characteristics, it is simply their opinion. That's clearer? wink
        1. MadCat
          MadCat 28 March 2018 13: 07
          0
          Quote: kirgiz58
          I explain "on the fingers." The opinion of the Indians about the Su-57, this is not an indicator of its actual characteristics, it is simply their opinion. That's clearer? wink

          you do not need to explain to others on your fingers; if a dry one loses a contract without signing a similar contract with others, then you can tie these fingers even in a knot.
          1. kirgiz58
            kirgiz58 28 March 2018 14: 15
            0
            Quote: MadCat
            if dry loses the contract without signing the same with others, then you can tie these fingers at least in a knot.

            Fingers tied in a knot (in our opinion - a muzzle), we will show the Indians when A. amertsots will show them a member with technologies.
      2. gippernano
        gippernano 28 March 2018 11: 42
        +1
        They are not a client, they are co-developers. Apparently received, as much as invested. China will buy, Turks are stopudovo interested. Yes, even the United States would have bought if it had not been a hindrance. Tell your stories to Dryndin
      3. just exp
        just exp 28 March 2018 12: 05
        0
        1 Indians will not refuse.
        2 if, nevertheless, the Indians refuse, then this is not for the reason that they wrote something somewhere, but because the intra-main wars made a turn of the parties, and this means a change of vector, and Sukhoi will have at least a death star of 5 pieces per dollar, they still will not buy.
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  4. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 28 March 2018 09: 24
    +7
    "The Russian fighter was called," arguably the best ever battlefield machine ever created. "

    And at first I thought disassembled is safer smile
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 11: 44
      0
      Yes, they talk about their fighters, who engage in battle with those who do not have destroyers. This is the golem PR of their scam F-35 Lightning II
  5. Egorovich
    Egorovich 28 March 2018 09: 27
    +4
    Indians want to turn into another garbage can for the wunderwafer fe-35.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 09: 31
      +5
      Egoritch, hello! hi
      Quote: Egorovich
      Indians want to turn into another garbage can for the wunderwafer fe-35.

      So let's see if the Indians manage to pat the nerves of mattresses. wink
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 28 March 2018 09: 38
        +3
        Pasha, salute drinks ! The Hindus need technology, and the striped asses will not give them that, so this cart will remain in place.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 09: 51
          +3
          I think so too, but it’s very interesting to see how the Indians will be butting with mattresses. lol
          1. Egorovich
            Egorovich 28 March 2018 10: 11
            +2
            I think that they will sign another document on military-technical cooperation and that will be the end of it. negative
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 10: 22
              +2
              Quite possible . But mattresses will not leave hope to get deeper into the arms market of India.
              1. Egorovich
                Egorovich 28 March 2018 10: 29
                +1
                Of course, they won’t refuse such a sweetie, but they certainly know how to get deep, you won’t be denied this. yes
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 10: 33
                  +2
                  Quote: Egorovich
                  they certainly know how to penetrate deeply, you cannot refuse this.

                  So figley: it’s from them, worms star-striped, from nature. lol
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 28 March 2018 10: 18
            +5
            We will be healthy soldier
            The only true assessment of the connection between the plane and the pilot is whether the plane will burn out on the ground or perform the “dance” of victory in the sky! And then, only in a "duel" confrontation, in approximately equal conditions!
            And then just the options for the conditions of combat use, that is, the quality of the organization of combat use in the interaction of all means of support. Plus the organization of MTO and TO !!!
            Now, really, this is almost a production process! It’s necessary to strive for this, rather it is necessary to ensure, otherwise we will lose!
            As an aviation enthusiast, I can admire the acrobatics of our aces and criticize the less expressive flights of competitors, but as a person who served in the system, which is the air defense system, I understand that a high-class system can overpower most super-duper individual prodigy!
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 10: 24
              +2
              Mutually, Victor! soldier I agree with you, but in the article, after all, the talk about airplanes serves only as a cover for lobbying mattress interests. yes
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 28 March 2018 11: 22
                +1
                Yeah, business, advertising, annoy a competitor and wipe it with sanctions !!! the striped masters in this ... besides, the Indians are the same masters of bargaining, and even more the brain can endure, at oooo!
                I understand everything, these are the realities of our world.
                Honestly, I’m taking off my “hat” in front of our sales people, in such conditions I’m able to sell something ... our manufacturers still have to work and work! Schaub force the Yankees to "swallow dust" from behind!
                Again, dreams, fantasies ... well, I want it, Schaub glory went around the world, not only for Kalashnikov!
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 28 March 2018 11: 26
                  +2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Again, dreams, fantasies ... well, I want it, Schaub glory went around the world, not only for Kalashnikov!

                  I understand you and fully share your aspirations. yes
      2. gippernano
        gippernano 28 March 2018 11: 47
        +1
        Yes, the prodigies have already started to salivate)))))) And the Indians on those in SU Bramos sharpened. Like nonsense, but .......
  6. mavrus
    mavrus 28 March 2018 09: 34
    +1
    The Indians have such a mentality, bring down the price, but get a freebie.
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 11: 48
      +1
      hucksters !!!!!! To Poland everyone !!!!!!!!!!!
  7. K-50
    K-50 28 March 2018 09: 34
    +4
    Russian Su-35 and MiG-35 are well-placed only on paper, and not in reality, according to The National Interest.

    The funny thing is that the Su-35 is lined up for purchase, and the F-35 "partners" are "imposed on" partners "almost by order. laughing
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 28 March 2018 09: 51
      +1
      Recently an article was mentioned in the Chinese media ... analyzed the participation of Su-35 in recent maneuvers ... praised!
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 28 March 2018 09: 58
      +4
      PLA - the contract is being implemented.
      Indonesia - a contract has been signed, 50% of goods produced in Indonesia, 50% by currency.
      Algeria - eyeing, but first Su-34.
      Malaysia - but they got 100500 offers there, used Hornets, New Hornets, Grippeny NG, Rafali, Eurofayters. There will also be a long-running tender with secret opening of suitcases of money from lobbyists and ministers.
      The UAE is a very tasty option (they will immediately take 80 pieces), but there are a number of problems there. This is actually the first Russian aircraft in their Air Force. They have the latest AIM-120C mountains, Harpoons, guided bombs and more. There is a training center at F-16 and their service. Well, the second problem - they are at the stage, they took the price list and booklet from the stand.

      Actual operators VKS + PLA. Firm contract only Indonesia.

      F-35 operators right now:
      Australia, Israel, Italy, Japan, Holland, Norway, Britain, USA.
      Plus, Turkey, Korea, Denmark - have solid confirmed contracts and are expecting the first cars already this or next year.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 28 March 2018 10: 31
        +1
        Erdoganov’s F-35 scares me.
        The plane is dangerous, it is not caught by radars on conventional air defense systems and aircraft
        distances. Soothes a little that all the best F-16 pilots Erdogan
        planted or fired.
        .
        1. Sergey985
          Sergey985 28 March 2018 10: 56
          0
          So what are you afraid of? Turkey will never agree to a direct military clash with Israel. This is completely unrealistic.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 28 March 2018 11: 30
            +1
            I would not guarantee. recourse Erdogan is a very ambitious ruler.
            He wants to restore the former influence of Ottoman Turkey in the Middle
            east. And in this desire sometimes ... loses reasonable proportions.
            And Israel is a clear direct hindrance to its plans. Therefore, it is likely that
            he will want to somehow "wave his fists" (as was the case with the Turkish ship of the "world",
            who trampled into Gaza "to help the Palestinians")
            1. Sergey985
              Sergey985 28 March 2018 12: 08
              0
              Erdogan's Wishlist is one thing, but was not seen in suicidal tendencies. He has competitors in the region (Israel does not belong to them). As for the ship of "peace", I believe that in this case, the political leadership of Israel behaved incorrectly, since that was how it ended.
          2. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 28 March 2018 12: 34
            0
            If the FSU is completely suppressed in a warhead without a “roof”, they will be crushed by all warheads (they will have worked out a lot there) and the Turks think that too ...
    3. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 11: 49
      0
      Partners to the detriment of their developed economies are throwing themselves away from these child prodigies, but Luser is not a vocation, but fate.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 March 2018 12: 17
        0
        Stealth aircraft at the link of the future system, the concept of the use of combat aircraft. A lot of money, technical and organizational measures, and many, many specialists. those. it is not tomorrow.
        I am sure that air defense will follow the same path. Those. another confrontation, someone whom.
        Also, the development of unmanned technology, expanding its scope.
        We are guessing, but will there be an output ????
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 28 March 2018 17: 06
          0
          In this regard, I agree .... And f 35, various modifications of the UAV must be considered in the system. The comparison is not correct, so 30 with f 22, or so 34, instant 29 with f 35, simply because now you need to compare air defense systems with the inclusion of these machines. Maybe the Indians do that ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 28 March 2018 23: 03
            0
            The Yankees did a swing, how they know how to do it, and then there are many BUT!
            I, as a fan of a team that is opposed to the "feathered", received assurances that they are working slowly, thoroughly, because there is simply no reason to flog the fever.
            I put on my team. Time will tell!
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  9. alex80
    alex80 28 March 2018 09: 34
    +1
    I didn’t understand something. Did Pushkov sell his share in NI !? lol
  10. Romanenko
    Romanenko 28 March 2018 09: 41
    +1
    Found to refer to - the Indians!
    As for the arm-twisting in search of a freebie, they have no equal in the world, they will stipulate everything in a row, just to grab pills from greed and more, more more ....
    Here even famous Jews quietly smoke bamboo aside.
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 11: 51
      0
      And then on those. On which plane you have worked, you will get one. And avionics will not brighten up, their contribution
  11. Dimy4
    Dimy4 28 March 2018 09: 43
    +1
    In short! You have these planes so bad that give them to us for free. With technical documentation.
    1. Strashila
      Strashila 28 March 2018 09: 51
      +1
      ... and technology maps translated into English.
      1. gippernano
        gippernano 28 March 2018 11: 52
        0
        and hebrew. Though.....................
    2. Seaflame
      Seaflame 28 March 2018 14: 54
      +2
      Give with the documentation and still pay us that we will experience them for ourselves))
  12. alex-pmr
    alex-pmr 28 March 2018 09: 47
    +1
    "Indian officials are increasingly disappointed with the Su-57, publicly complaining about low-powered engines, the low stealth of the fighter and lack of transparency about what is behind these problems."
    I don’t understand, did I miss something? Have we already managed to adjust the Su-57 to the Indians?
    1. NN52
      NN52 28 March 2018 09: 54
      +4
      alex-pmr

      Together with them, the topic was muddied on the version of the PAK FA aircraft with 2 pilots (pilot and navigator-pilot), the Indians even allocated a little money ...
      And now they started to whine, then the engines are not the same, the grenades of the wrong system)))
      Apparently our Indians do not want to give a kickback, so they are bustling ...
      1. gippernano
        gippernano 28 March 2018 11: 55
        +1
        They contributed to the software, and now decided that the fifth generation aircraft is their brainchild. And their work was apparently not rated highly and the exhaust turned out to be weak and very inconspicuous. I would have bombed them for the tea that they give us here.
  13. cedar
    cedar 28 March 2018 09: 50
    +1
    It would be time for everyone to have known for a long time that after flying to the moon, there was no equal Amer’s technique in our world, and no ...
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 12: 01
      0
      Ha, and laser bugs? and only one zombolt, without a railgun, which is worth it, it’s hard not to even grasp American power, but not everyone can understand it !!!!!!!
      1. gippernano
        gippernano 28 March 2018 12: 02
        0
        Only a subtle mind, and the moving psyche of the Poles, is ready
  14. Strashila
    Strashila 28 March 2018 09: 50
    0
    “Indian officials are becoming increasingly disillusioned with the Su-57, publicly complaining about low-powered engines, the low stealth of the fighter and lack of transparency about what is behind these problems” ... in plain language, they are waiting for their bakshish and looking for their gesheft ... moreover, in an open and arrogant manner.
  15. Pacifist
    Pacifist 28 March 2018 09: 57
    0
    A tender is at stake. Urgently need to throw fikaly on the fan in the direction of competitors. Nothing new.
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 12: 04
      0
      what kind of tender? they’re co-developers, let them shine, and it’s not planned to sell the Russian version even to such great friends as they are. I would bomb them all, for the tea that is being banished here
      1. Pacifist
        Pacifist 28 March 2018 13: 09
        0
        I'm talking about the source of the article.
  16. Vard
    Vard 28 March 2018 09: 58
    0
    The rule is simple ... if we are scolded by the Western media, everything is in order ... if you start to praise ... you have to touch the pants from the back ... you never know what ...
  17. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 28 March 2018 10: 00
    +1
    And when will the National Interest praise the Patriot air defense system? After all, they recently “rescued” the Saudis so cool!
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 12: 07
      0
      It’s just amazing how such a powerful system did so little damage, can they do anything at all?
  18. evil partisan
    evil partisan 28 March 2018 10: 13
    +1
    Our company has been operating in India for many years. suffered from the Indians forever sad . Affairs with them fool it’s very difficult to have, oh, oh, to the brink of the impossible. Maybe the military is a little more adequate? what Although ... Why would suddenly ... In general: I do not envy our arms sellers request . Although the market, of course, is huge. It seems that they suffer all their kooky with half-twists .. recourse
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 12: 09
      +1
      And they take revenge on their tea daily for every Russian family, is it time to start testing nuclear weapons on them?
  19. jovanni
    jovanni 28 March 2018 10: 25
    +2
    In February 2018, the National Interest wrote the exact opposite.

    Yes, what thesis is paid by customers, this is voiced. After all, journalists are such a profession. They earn money. This is their main goal in life, and not at all there is a mythical vocation "to convey the truth" to the layman. What is paid, then they inform ...
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 12: 10
      0
      Etat didn’t break interest, in general such a serious source of information that it is to navigate, do not respect yourself
  20. Altona
    Altona 28 March 2018 10: 28
    +2
    Let them buy for comparison one fighter of each manufacturer and compare in-kind, so to speak. And to write that a neighbor’s horse is worse than a gypsy at a rural fair is about nothing.
    PS Was there such a Time magazine? I read it in the original in 1991. So there they wrote on a blue eye that the F-16 is better than the MiG-29 because the engine resource of the MiG is 100 hours, and the F-16 has 3000. And you say "flight characteristics". laughing
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 12: 12
      0
      Yes, and let them buy Abrams for themselves, and then definitely tryndets !!!!!!!!!
  21. d1975
    d1975 28 March 2018 10: 39
    +1
    Quote: Vasily50
    The described is very reminiscent of the situation with Yugoslavia, when they began to make claims to RUSSIA and abandon contracts, showing * solidarity * with Western experts. What not many people remember today, more often they talk about * betrayal *, and not about what * carried * towards RUSSIA Milosevic and other Yugoslavs.
    By the way, Gaddafi also presented claims and broke contracts.

    Well, yes, I read here as if the French command and control center was built. Present now no one. As usual, sit on two chairs. History of corrupt Slavs. I never understand, why such independence and from whom? request
  22. Livonetc
    Livonetc 28 March 2018 10: 41
    0
    For them, Russia is traditionally a "colossus with feet of clay."
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 12: 13
      0
      Dooooooo, only when you look at their parade of parade, you need to cry, you want to laugh
      1. Mr.fix
        Mr.fix 28 March 2018 23: 40
        0
        And they all have such parades films .... life
  23. prior
    prior 28 March 2018 10: 47
    +4
    Meditating in the lotus position, sitting on an elephant, it is easy to determine the degree of backwardness of Russian aircraft. Well, who would doubt it.
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 12: 15
      0
      Not easy, but hard, so their opinion is so important to them. The nice thing is that our opinion is not important to them, almost waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabsc
      1. gippernano
        gippernano 28 March 2018 12: 15
        +1
        Let them buy the F-35 Lightning II and here you have China with the Su-35 in the tail and mane
  24. Sergey D_2
    Sergey D_2 28 March 2018 11: 23
    0
    Oppa! Incident
    1. gippernano
      gippernano 28 March 2018 12: 16
      0
      Opankiiiiiiii, the Indians got there, but they wanted to save))))))))))))
  25. vladimirasha
    vladimirasha 28 March 2018 11: 27
    0
    Well, let them try and then talk. And then they bark because of the fence, but it is not clear to anyone. Maybe they are just bored.
  26. av58
    av58 28 March 2018 11: 54
    0
    NI is known for its "specialists" in much the same way as the Indians for its "ability" to produce weapons, and serve it laughing
  27. pavelty
    pavelty 28 March 2018 13: 20
    0
    Well, about the software, unfortunately the truth ... everything is arranged so that while the spare part for Sushka is waiting on the base, the donkey will die
  28. floyder
    floyder 28 March 2018 14: 53
    0
    What you won’t do for the sake of big money !!! Tender announced. VERY big grandmas are at stake. Well, why not justify a competitor? India has its own interest. She seeks the transfer of Su-57 technology for its production in India. Blackmail has not been canceled.
  29. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 28 March 2018 15: 28
    +2
    Su-57 and MiG-35 are good only on the flanks of Amerz magazines! And in the sky they are just deadly! Don’t make them angry, you’ll be bum!
  30. Man H
    Man H 28 March 2018 16: 44
    +1
    All you need is to “throw a duck” - Pakistan wants to acquire the latest Russian 4 ++ generation fighters, as well as take part in the joint development of the fifth generation fighter with Russia in connection with the refusal of India under this contract. Hindus then such diframbs will begin to sing about PAKFA.
  31. Old military officer
    Old military officer 28 March 2018 17: 00
    +1
    Sing, little bird, sing. Of course, on paper, especially on newsprint. So be it. You will persuade yourself and you’d better sleep.
  32. macgyver
    macgyver 28 March 2018 18: 25
    0
    Something is not visible queues for the F-35 ...))
    They even look bad on paper.
  33. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 28 March 2018 20: 04
    +1
    And how much time they buy "Rafali"!
  34. Stoler
    Stoler 28 March 2018 22: 50
    0
    We write the same thing about their technique.
  35. Jamilya Mustafaeva
    Jamilya Mustafaeva 29 March 2018 04: 02
    0
    This magazine from where pulled this blizzard? If, Russia has not shown and has not provided India with a single prototype Su35 but about Su57 and there is nothing to say, they did not see it either at the video or air show in Zhukovsky. Who is writing these tales like the State Department customers. India wants to get the secrets of technology and complete production on its territory. For them, what is the leadership of “suckers” in Russia to provide technologies that were created over the course of 18 years and for which hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent. They will try to buy technology from an American and see what they give them. And let the National Interest tell tales to fools about the characteristics of our Sushki. Let their American invisibles meet at once and our dryers turn on the Russian Kibiny EW Dryers and become really invisible on the screens of their radars and their invisibility will be like targets in a dash. And now, empty this national interest, these tales tell their kindergarteners about the Indian discontent that they have never seen before.
  36. Savignon
    Savignon 29 March 2018 04: 30
    +1
    F-22 + F-35 = Su-57 bully
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 29 March 2018 10: 24
      +1
      Su 57 + C300, 400, 500 .... + UAVs + bright brains of our designers = but there’s nothing to compare with at all! Add our developed industrial base !!! but wait a while, we’ll work!
  37. LIP
    LIP April 5 2018 15: 33
    +1
    Friends! Yes to hell with them. Let us get worse, but we are fighting better. And for some reason, these “good guys” and “excellent students” are afraid to butt with the “doubles” in open battle ?!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 April 5 2018 15: 37
      +1
      Yes, with our military cheburashka except that compare?
      A little sho so they cheburakny, they will remember a century!