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The United States announced the lack of protection against hypersonic weapons

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US military and congressmen believe that Russia and China are ahead of the United States in developing a hypersonic weaponswrites The Hill.


Right now we are defenseless
- quotes the publication of a member of the US Senate Committee on the Armed Forces, James Inhof.

The United States announced the lack of protection against hypersonic weapons


Thomas Karako, a staff member at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), an expert in missile defense, also agreed that the States are lagging behind Russia and China in this area.

The reason is that the United States does not make even approximately comparable efforts in the development of its own similar weapons, and in the creation of systems capable of detecting and knocking them down.
- He explained.

Earlier, the chairman of the Strategic Command of the US Armed Forces, General John Heithen, speaking in Congress, acknowledged that the United States does not have the means of protection directly from hypersonic weapons, RIA reports News
Photos used:
Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 27 March 2018 16: 14
    0
    There is no such weapon, so there is no protection. request
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 27 March 2018 16: 18
      +1
      Precisely said. My post is below.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 27 March 2018 16: 43
        +7
        Do not choke on saliva.
        1. -ш-
          -ш- 27 March 2018 17: 13
          +7
          it’s more likely even bile, while in the pants diarrhea
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic 27 March 2018 16: 22
      +9
      Does Israel have such a weapon? belay Well, do it, but do not speak for Russia! Or are you expecting that you urgently post secret photos in the public domain? Not in reproach, the toad strangled you that we were able to implement the program since the times of the USSR, having actually created several versions of hypersonic weapons, thereby overtaking the whole world? ??
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 27 March 2018 16: 43
        +1
        "Israel does not have such weapons?" ////

        What the Americans have in mind: there is no KR with a ramjet engine.
        And what the Russians mean: there is a BR with hypersonic warhead. Shavit rocket - 3-speed.
        Turns into a simple ICBM, if necessary.
        1. Herculesic
          Herculesic 27 March 2018 16: 57
          +3
          Alexei, you again confuse the warm with the soft! We well, even better than anyone in the world, know exactly what hypersonic weapons are, and believe me, this is not a warhead maneuvering at the end of the flight!
    3. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 27 March 2018 16: 51
      +10
      Quote: A. Privalov
      There is no such weapon, so there is no protection.

      Quote: voyaka uh
      Precisely said.

      Envy silently
    4. SETTGF
      SETTGF 27 March 2018 17: 08
      +1
      No need to wishful thinking ... Russia only has weapons, but other countries in the world have no protection at this time and not only! The rest is the pathology of the “couch” strategists and ill-wishers!
    5. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 27 March 2018 17: 19
      +1
      Does Israel have such a weapon yet?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 27 March 2018 17: 49
        +1
        Of course not. Hypersound during horizontal flight in the atmosphere - plasma around the rocket, no external control, no precise guidance.
        1. abc_alex
          abc_alex 28 March 2018 01: 18
          0
          The Germans solved the problem of radio communications in a plasma cocoon. And do not mislead others. Autonomous guidance systems provide the rocket with a sufficient level of accuracy for firing specials. Warhead.
          1. Tatar 174
            Tatar 174 28 March 2018 06: 49
            0
            Quote: abc_alex
            The Germans solved the problem of radio communications in a plasma cocoon.

            What the Germans decided, but this is only radio communication, and the apparatus in the plasma cocoon must itself monitor the environment and plot its trajectory by itself using its guidance system, and here it turns out that someone has to control this apparatus from the outside by means of radio communication. e. remotely.
      2. mig29mks
        mig29mks 27 March 2018 18: 35
        +1
        If Israel itself doesn’t, then the rest simply cannot have it !!!
    6. NEXUS
      NEXUS 27 March 2018 19: 10
      +7
      Quote: A. Privalov
      There is no such weapon, so there is no protection. request

      You our General Staff takes off Old?
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And what Russians have in mind: there is a BR with hypersonic warheads

      You, excuse stupidity, write ... did you see the same Dagger in reality or rely on that demo cut and mounted video? Are you sure that it was a dagger, and not some other rocket?
      I now think that the REAL Dagger was not shown to us ... what materials is it made of, what physical principles are invested in it? Or do you naively believe that SECRET developments will easily show the whole world like this? Remember the beginning of the development of the SU-57 ... there even its size was a secret ...
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 27 March 2018 21: 38
        +6
        Andrey, tell Privalov that the Flurry torpedo missiles also do not exist.
    7. Dead duck
      Dead duck 27 March 2018 19: 14
      +3
      Quote: A. Privalov
      There is no such weapon, so there is no protection.

      Well, you’re my friend, it’s not like a schoolboy ...
      It has long been known that everything has parameters and conditions ...
      such as the parameters for intercepting certain targets under certain conditions ...
      and the old can’t always be intercepted and the Yankees know about it, they just wanted to shout ... like they are threatening them again request
    8. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 27 March 2018 21: 02
      0
      Practical aerodynamics is not really my paraffin, but I am quite well aware of what aerodynamic heating and thermal barrier are. The beginnings of thermodynamics are not a secret to me, too, and seven, if the fundamental laws of Physics have not yet been abolished, and revolutionary changes did not occur on these days, then this label is still applicable. Understand it is not difficult. Whoever forgot, to convert Kelvin degrees to Celsius degrees that are more familiar to us, 273 should be subtracted from the numerical value.
      1. Dead duck
        Dead duck 27 March 2018 23: 33
        +2
        Quote: A. Privalov
        aerodynamic heating

        thermal protective coatings exist ... for disposable, easier to make yes
        and plasma have long been indulging in, especially ours.
  2. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 27 March 2018 16: 16
    +1
    Americans understand hypersonic weapons as
    KR flying in a dense atmosphere with ramjet engine.
    There is no protection from them. And there are no such missiles themselves ..
    And Russians understand hypersonic weapons as warhead warheads.
    Flying from space. Hence the mutual misunderstanding.
    1. passerby
      passerby 27 March 2018 16: 24
      +4
      But what, is there protection against maneuvering blocks of rockets flying at hypersonic speed along a quasibalistic trajectory?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 27 March 2018 16: 37
        +1
        There is. Exoatmospheric kill vehicle
        This thing also manages to maneuver in space.
        She has “eyes” - IR video, all sorts of ext. sensors to distinguish false targets and your comp.
        Getting into the maneuvering warhead of the BR is, of course, not easy, but possible.
        The warhead maneuvers are very limited, otherwise it will fly away from the main course.
        1. passerby
          passerby 27 March 2018 17: 02
          0
          And here is space then? It is a quasibalistic trajectory along which, for example, a dagger rocket flies in the atmosphere.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 27 March 2018 17: 44
            +1
            Dagger rocket is Iskander. Why would she maneuver in
            dense layers of the atmosphere, if no one is going to meet her there?
            Fall yourself calmly ... Her task is already to hit the target.
        2. martin-159
          martin-159 28 March 2018 06: 19
          0
          Theoretically, you can get into anything.
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 27 March 2018 16: 45
        +4
        Yes, he doesn’t care. There, the hands above the keyboard are shaking - to shake Russian shit harder.
        How it is? US recognized no protection? From whom? From these Russians? Are you kidding! So he rushed to defend.
        This is called explosions per..kov.
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic 27 March 2018 16: 24
      +5
      No, Alexey! You exaggerate! We also understand by this weapon what we did, including missiles flying with a speed above 5 speeds of sound, and besides maneuvering in dense layers of the atmosphere! Your right to believe or not, but we really have such weapons! !!
    3. KCA
      KCA 27 March 2018 16: 30
      +2
      Maybe the Americans just know a little more about the development of hypersonic weapons in Russia than you do, and more than Putin said? And then surprisingly, in 1994 there was a prototype (flying, not animated) hypersonic CR with ramjet, then it seemed to cease to be, but now there is nothing at all, some hypersonic warheads are not clear
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 27 March 2018 16: 51
        +10
        Guys do not get fooled, military secrets are pushed to "weakly." Scientists left Russia and created the Dome and that’s all, the old fuse has ended, the sand has poured, and our youth has wiped their nose. smile
      2. Herculesic
        Herculesic 27 March 2018 16: 53
        +1
        KSA -you also see, take out and put the documentation and photos of the secret technique, otherwise you will not believe? ?? This is your right, and in general it’s good that we began to hide the old Soviet developments and projects in the blanket, which means that they will not go anywhere, and thus we will not help the adversary in obtaining our ideas, knowledge and technologies!
      3. Shahno
        Shahno 27 March 2018 16: 58
        +1
        And what is not clear then. The principal temperatures are in ks pvrd and spvrd. Yard and yard + PVD only complicates the design. There are no materials more than 10 sec withstanding 5m in the case of PvRD, and in the case of turbojet, and then ballistic, there are no such materials for 6 m in temperature on the skin. And understand, they are fundamentally not. New fundamental approaches are needed, and this will not go unnoticed by the scientific community. You can bluff as you like, see the biographies of professors and students of Caltech ... And then draw conclusions.
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 27 March 2018 17: 11
          +1
          I hope it is clear that I'm not talking about a falling disc. But really about maneuvering hypersonic aircraft with feedback. But you never know, I’ll clarify ...
          1. cats
            cats 27 March 2018 17: 52
            +4
            Quote: Shahno
            I hope it’s clear that I'm not talking about a falling disc

            We understand that when you do not understand, you overwhelm with a bunch of incomprehensible information
            mixed words cannot be ... I hope you understand what we understand ...
            1. Russia
              Russia 27 March 2018 18: 39
              +3
              Quote: Kotovsky
              Quote: Shahno
              I hope it’s clear that I'm not talking about a falling disc

              We understand that when you do not understand, you overwhelm with a bunch of incomprehensible information
              mixed words cannot be ... I hope you understand what we understand ...

              Well, you wrapped Konstantin smile Hi hi
              1. Shahno
                Shahno 27 March 2018 18: 42
                +1
                I try to be closer to the people. Forgive me if that, but your company pleases me .. Just if the opponent appears from you in those. questions will be clearer.
                1. cats
                  cats 27 March 2018 19: 08
                  +2
                  Quote: Shahno
                  Just if the opponent appears from you in those. questions will be clearer.

                  Such an opponent can of course talk to you,
                  but his company is unlikely to please you ...
                  A cozy basement, a lamp in the face, an uncomfortable stool ...
                  1. Shahno
                    Shahno 27 March 2018 20: 31
                    0
                    Well, we are waiting, as it were ... I hope all the same it will be on the shore by the sea, and not in the basement ...
              2. cats
                cats 27 March 2018 19: 21
                +2
                Quote: Rusland
                wrapped up

                Good evening.
                I answer in the language of the opponent. hi
                1. Russia
                  Russia 27 March 2018 19: 31
                  +3
                  Quote: Kotovsky
                  Quote: Rusland
                  wrapped up

                  Good evening.
                  I answer in the language of the opponent. hi

                  Clearly, "How Steel Was Tempered" is on topic, smile hi
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 27 March 2018 21: 43
          +3
          Quote: Shahno
          And what is not clear then. The principal temperatures are in ks pvrd and spvrd. Yard and yard + PVD only complicates the design. There are no materials for more than 10 seconds that can withstand 5m in the case of air defense systems, and in the case of turbojet engines, and then ballistics, there are no such materials for 6 m in temperature on the skin.
          Are you talking to anyone right now? belay
        3. Roman 57 rus
          Roman 57 rus 27 March 2018 23: 11
          0
          But you can cool the skin.
        4. jonht
          jonht 28 March 2018 00: 52
          0
          I am ringing, but how did Shatly and Buran sit? there is clearly more than 10 seconds of descent into the atmosphere, even with regard to damping speed. And the plasma there is no less hot than the new missiles.
          so maybe the technologies were and are, just their cost was not proportionate?
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 28 March 2018 14: 19
            0
            Quote: jonht
            I am ringing, but how did Shatly and Buran sit? there is clearly more than 10 seconds of descent into the atmosphere, even with regard to damping speed. And the plasma there is no less hot than the new missiles.
            so maybe the technologies were and are, just their cost was not proportionate?

            Sit down badly. The fact is that all duralumin are covered at 250 degrees, tungsten and titanium additives do not reach 400. All other alloys are extremely heavy, expensive and difficult to handle. It remains pottery. Integral is not suitable, because does not tolerate uneven heating. Ceramic tiles remain. They pasted over the case. First of all, they are very heavy. Secondly, they fell away. Up to a third of the surface remained bald. There are a number of unresolved problems, since ceramics, glue and body have different coefficients of expansion.
            1. jonht
              jonht 28 March 2018 23: 49
              0
              You see, there was already a solution, ceramics! And if now to do "plastics" with silica or the same derivatives of graphite?
              Another aspect, plasma .... And if you find a solution to keep it within certain limits and use it as a shield? Technically, the problem is difficult, but solvable, an example of a torpedo squall ....
              If you can not solve the problem in the forehead, you need to find a workaround.
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 29 March 2018 11: 14
                0
                Quote: jonht
                You see, there was already a solution, ceramics! And if now to do "plastics" with silica or the same derivatives of graphite?
                Another aspect, plasma .... And if you find a solution to keep it within certain limits and use it as a shield? Technically, the problem is difficult, but solvable, an example of a torpedo squall ....
                If you can not solve the problem in the forehead, you need to find a workaround.

                Find, of course. But it will be tomorrow. No offense, dear, but 75 years ago it was still possible to take good and smart people, drive them into prison sharashki and under fear for themselves, for loved ones, make them literally create new and very necessary things on their knees. What was created in this way, of course, you know. Today, such methods do not work. In the kitchen, you can make a knife, brass knuckles and even a bomb, but ceramic coatings that withstand thousands of degrees, adhesives that are resistant to incredible temperatures, etc., require powerful laboratories and complex industries. There are no materials for these industries, and there are no serious experts in these industries. Projects such as hypersound, powerful lasers, nuclear engines are comparable in scale with the creation, in due time, of nuclear weapons. It takes huge amounts of time and money. Nothing of this TODAY in Russia yet. I repeat, TODAY. hi
    4. SETTGF
      SETTGF 27 March 2018 17: 10
      0
      Watch the video carefully and don’t write about what you don’t know!
    5. flicker
      flicker 27 March 2018 17: 17
      +1
      Hence the mutual misunderstanding.
      No, this is more like an attempt by a drowning man to grab onto a straw.
      The brain flatly refuses to accept the fact that Russia has rockets with hypersonic speed, while the United States does not.
  3. konstantin68
    konstantin68 27 March 2018 16: 58
    +1
    Even now there is not much protection against non-hypersonic maneuvering warheads, and no one understands how this protection will work if even 10-15 blocks try to break through it. So, the American is right.
  4. konstantin68
    konstantin68 27 March 2018 17: 01
    +2
    Quote: voyaka uh
    There is. Exoatmospheric kill vehicle
    This thing also manages to maneuver in space.
    She has “eyes” - IR video, all sorts of ext. sensors to distinguish false targets and your comp.
    Getting into the maneuvering warhead of the BR is, of course, not easy, but possible.
    The warhead maneuvers are very limited, otherwise it will fly away from the main course.

    And what, has it already been tested somewhere? What performance did it show?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 27 March 2018 17: 37
      +1
      It was tested. Approximately 50% performance
    2. cats
      cats 27 March 2018 17: 54
      +2
      Quote: konstantin68
      And what, has it already been tested somewhere? What performance did it show?

      I’ll add to your question .. How does it respond to the machine gun queue?
      And does it have a boomerang effect? hi
  5. MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 27 March 2018 17: 24
    +3
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "Israel does not have such weapons?" ////

    What the Americans have in mind: there is no KR with a ramjet engine.
    And what the Russians mean: there is a BR with hypersonic warhead. Shavit rocket - 3-speed.
    Turns into a simple ICBM, if necessary.

    So the truth is in the public domain and laid out about secret weapons. You are naive, as are your overseas partners who draw "secret information" from social networks. networks and correspondence.
    Three years already goes drawing a zircon rocket with direct exhaust .... laughing operation "cover" worked. You are naive suckers.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 27 March 2018 17: 40
      +1
      "Three years already, a zircon rocket with a direct exhaust circuit is circulating .... laughing operation" cover "worked" ///

      I was sure that Zircon was a bluff, wrote about it. And so it turned out.
      So almost everything that has been said recently about “6 prodigies” is also a bluff.
      Operation "cover" continues.
      1. SETTGF
        SETTGF 27 March 2018 17: 48
        0
        Respected! Bluffing is in your mind and not only in your head ... Do not believe your friends - Americans ?!
    2. Shahno
      Shahno 27 March 2018 17: 42
      0
      Well, this is a bluff, we understood a long time ago ... And we talked with your comrades from the partisan movement ...
      1. SETTGF
        SETTGF 27 March 2018 17: 52
        +1
        Then is this just a pathology ?!
  6. SETTGF
    SETTGF 27 March 2018 17: 57
    0
    Dear! Look carefully at the video - the direct-flow engine is visible on it ... and besides the hypersonic blocks and the "Dagger" are controlled throughout the flight - this is the most important thing that many countries have not achieved!
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 27 March 2018 18: 04
      +1
      Yes, you’re right to have the SRO working on 4 m, in prototypes, both in the states and in. But this is a few other alignment. If you look at the speed of the missile defense ... As if a little exaggeration, 4,5,6 ... somewhere like that.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 27 March 2018 18: 14
        0
        Here you are stubborn, no words! For starters, are you strong in materials science, metallurgy, plasma physics? Our analogues were ready even with alcohol, but it was underfunding that caused the closure of projects. And then, on the basis of new knowledge in the branches I have indicated, they were able to put together the puzzle together, so to speak! We have such missiles, they are not copies of Iskander, and many more than 5 speeds of sound fly! And to believe or not, your right.
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 27 March 2018 18: 23
          +1
          Yes thank you. The interaction of radiation with matter, the structure of materials is my first specialty. Yes, and in the Technion had to work. Who should I believe? I believe, only to calculations ... And you are trying to convince people of what is not, why? It won’t lead to anything, I’ll argue with any specialist ... I myself learned it at the physics and technology department.
          1. Herculesic
            Herculesic 27 March 2018 18: 43
            0
            Here to argue in your blood, at the genetic level! Your legal right, but when the United States or China, or even Israel, get the same results in materials science and can repeat our results, then you will argue that such weapons are impossible? ?? This argument is not about anything! Just at least once, but take it on faith, we really were able to create such a weapon, but how due to what this is another conversation.
          2. cats
            cats 27 March 2018 19: 18
            +2
            Quote: Shahno
            Are you trying to convince people of what is not there, why?

            So you assume that your Netanyahu is a liar?
            Quote: Shahno
            The interaction of radiation with matter, the structure of materials is my first specialty. Yes, and in the Technion had to work

            Quote: Shahno
            It won’t lead to anything, I’ll argue with any specialist ... I myself learned it at the physics and technology department.

            Well, if you are so educated, then why are you asking questions that you don’t get
            answer? Is it really so pressed that you collect crumbs through the forums? tongue
          3. sabakina
            sabakina 27 March 2018 21: 49
            +6
            Quote: Shahno
            Yes thank you. The interaction of radiation with matter, the structure of materials is my first specialty.
            Second Physics, Third Chemistry, Fourth Divinity
  7. Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 27 March 2018 19: 25
    0
    Check out better how Saudi Arabia intercepted the Yemeni Scuds by the American Patriot. Here the enemies are not needed. smile https://rg.ru/2018/03/27/video-amerikanskie-proti
    vorakety-patriot-sluchajno-razbombili-er-riiad.ht

    ml
  8. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 28 March 2018 08: 12
    0
    Quote: A. Privalov
    There is no such weapon, so there is no protection. request

    Quote: voyaka uh
    Precisely said. My post is below.


    Firstly, Putin and Shoigu officially announced to the whole world that such weapons exist. So it is. Yes, and I believe them, because these people are authorities for me.
    You are not.
    Secondly, envy is bad laughing
  9. kukriniks
    kukriniks 28 March 2018 12: 26
    +1
    But why the West needs protection from missiles? According to them that someone was going to shoot? The whole government is comprador, elite, with Albion passes. It’s enough to think that since the collapse of the union there have not been a single candidate from the real opposition, but now generally clowns and nipples are running. How long will the oligarchic party go on? They drive people by the nose, muddle the water across all the seas and oceans. You might even think that the circle closed at the "not protruding elite of the ball." All economies work for a buck, and they don't care how much you have rockets and how are they etayut.Ili someone has the guts to even really threaten at least one carrier to the bottom to let all of its citizens, the victims and for those who were not even born because of the cowardice of the leader?
  10. Slovak
    Slovak 28 March 2018 14: 19
    0
    Urgently increase the Pentagon's budget by a trilliard of thousands of mulens!