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Do you write a lot on the Internet? Come for you!

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Do you write a lot on the Internet? Come for you!



We often laugh at the actions of the Ukrainian authorities. Laugh on the case and without. And condemn the "khataskranyh" residents of the country. Often, too, in the case and without it.

Indeed, much of what is happening there today does not fit into the logic of normal people. However, laughter is laughter, but in fact, the Ukrainian authorities are well aware of the mechanism for organizing "popular unrest" and "outraged riots."

Today we can say with confidence that the protest movement in Ukraine is completely under the control of the security authorities and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And this global control. The Security Service of Ukraine and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are no longer limited to recruiting the leaders of these movements or controlling their activities through their own agents within organizations.

Many still remember how events began on the Maidan.



As oppositional nationalist forces were able to quickly bring such a mass of youth to the rally. For many, it is no secret that even today most organizations gather from among the users of certain sites on the Internet. Internet for young people replaced the revolutionary proclamations and leaflets on the walls. And at the same time, the Internet makes it possible to instantly send orders to action.

It’s not for nothing that today, in Russia, the special services are getting out of their way to gain control over communication media such as "Telegram", "Viber" and others.

It is not necessary to exaggerate the analytical skills of the intelligence officers. But you should not treat them with contempt. It is the knowledge of the technology of organizing riots that pushed the security services to take control of the most important means of communication. Those same "telephone, telegraph and mail", which once wrote the leaders of the uprising in 1917-m.

We should not forget about the overseas curators of the Ukrainian Security Service of Ukraine. Similarly, special services operate in the United States. The one who owns the information, owns the world. Remember the numerous accusations of some social networks in the United States.



An excellent investigation confirming that today social communication in Ukraine is under the close supervision of the special services was carried out by journalists from the Ukrainian publication “Country”. The following facts are taken from this particular edition.

The main enemy of the Ukrainian government is Facebook. It is for the posts posted on this resource, the Ukrainian courts and sentenced Ukrainians to various terms. It is through Facebook that they reach those who can even theoretically pose a danger to power.

The first example is indicative precisely because the convict is not an enemy of Ukraine. This is just a man whom the power of the oligarchs "got". A sort of dinosaur Maidan, who still believed in the possibility of a change of power through rallies and meetings.

Roman Kolomiets, a resident of Svitlovodsk in the Kirovograd Region, was convicted by a court in February 2016 of the year for “appeals for the overthrow of the existing power” for three years. Such a sentence was not caused by insignificance of the charges, but by the good work of the SBU investigators. They were able to convince the suspect to make a deal with the investigation, admit guilt and thus mitigate the sentence.

What is so terrible made Kolomiets? What are based on quite serious charges? It is easier to bring ALL seditious entries to Facebook than to explain why they are so terrible Poroshenko.

"Add to the new revolutionary community" Ukraine, rise! "When we are 100 000 - go to the government quarter and take out all the evil from offices!"

"Ukraine, rise! It is impossible to live in a new way with old rats!"



Everything! This turned out to be quite enough for the SBU investigators to blind the case for three years! It is indicative that such a thing showed all the "romantics from Maidan" their real place in the system of government. Every cricket know your hearth. Or the Moor did his job ...

The thesis that we still hear from some Ukrainian bloggers and journalists about the real power of the people in Ukraine turned out to be another issue. Power belongs to certain, specific people. Shepherds do not need the opinion of the flock at all. "Be, IU and mu" ordinary Ukrainians do not need anyone ...

Another case will be unexpected for some readers. We are accustomed to the fact that in Ukraine there is an "untouchable sect" - nationalists. After all, it was precisely the nationalists who were in many ways the driving force behind many events that brought the current leaders of the country to power.

Deliberately, in order to show Ukraine that Ukraine is “legitimate” from the point of view of Kiev, we will not consider people from the Donbass. Just because the pathological hatred of these people has already been raised. Just mentioning the place of residence (Donbass) makes a person a criminal for the majority of Ukrainians. Just for being from the Donbass.

So, Transcarpathia. Region of compact residence "wrong Ukrainians". It is no secret that for Svidomo Ukrainians, other than Russians, other nationalities who have the audacity to live on Ukrainian soil are enemies. It does not matter at all that these people lived here long before these lands were transferred to Ukraine.

Zoltan Vash was the administrator of the Hungarian-speaking Facebook group “Karpatalja nem Ukrajna”, which translates as “Transcarpathia is not Ukraine”. Like most of the inhabitants of the border regions, he often came to neighboring Hungary. Only the lazy one does not know that the national minorities of the western regions of Ukraine already have passports or cards (like the Pole’s card) of neighboring countries.

What do those who feel like strangers in the country talk about in social networks? Moreover, what is the example of the Crimea before my eyes? What are the leaders of such social groups outside the country talking about?

Naturally, the main issue that is constantly discussed is the issue of autonomy of the region. Cultural, linguistic, religious, political, but autonomy. It is clear that the villages and cities in which the majority do not even speak Ukrainian will be separated.

That's what your Zoltan and received five years of probation. "Or leave, or fight for the liberation of Transcarpathia from the Ukrainian government!" These words spoken by yours in Budapest on the Russia 1 TV channel 13 on July 2015 and became the basis of the charge on the 4 article of the Criminal Code.

It is difficult to say now that it turned out to be more weighty, the words or the broadcast of the Russian TV channel, but ...



Conventionally, again for the same reason as in the first case. He agreed to cooperate with the investigation. Or very strongly asked to agree and acknowledge.

Do you think this attention of the Security Service of Ukraine is due to Zoltan’s separatism? Alas, but the "normal" Ukrainians are tracked and punished. I took the word "normal" in quotes simply because by this word I mean nationalists. Nationalism in today's Ukraine is indeed considered an indicator of normality.

Exactly, the resident of Lutsk Vasily Solomonyuk in June 2017 received his “three rubles” for nationalist calls and calls for power.

"If we do not destroy power, power will destroy us."

"Death to the internal occupation regime - long live the nationalist revolution."

"They will by no means give up power voluntarily through peaceful elections, they can only be thrown off by force weapons, by rebel warfare. All organizational work of patriots should be focused on 3 main areas: recruitment, combat testing and training of rebels, formation of groups; mining in any way weapons, finance and equipment; revolutionary insurgent propaganda with clear emphasis on armed struggle against the regime ... "

Well, with such a set of plans, probably, in Russia, the investigators and judges would think hard.

We often speak and write that modern technologies allow creating a situation of chaos rather quickly and effectively enough. Moreover, we believed in this thesis so much that we forgot about the opposite effect. More precisely, we do not link the communication capabilities of a person and the ability of special services to track contacts of this person.

The example of Ukraine today is an excellent illustration of such opportunities. Country "under the hood at Muller."

However, it is much more important to understand that the Poroshenko regime was well prepared to deal with possible bursts of discontent. Today, the option of “calling on social networks to protest” will only lead to the arrest and isolation of the account holder. And this is at best. But another option to transfer information about the owner of the radicals ...



We (on the “Review”) criticize “normal” Ukrainians a lot and fiercely. We went, adapted, hut with the edge and so on. Forgetting or simply discarding everything we talked about, and spoke more than once.

Ukraine today is on the path not only to the totalitarian, so also openly nationalist state.

And one of the main criteria of such a state will be the global power of the special services. And, of course, the judicial system is completely subordinate to the authorities. This is where the perpetrators are appointed, even without hearing their arguments in their own defense.

This is worth remembering. Just in case, and for myself.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 30 March 2018 06: 29
    +11
    It is better for Russia to be a totalitarian state. Although I do not like the word. A state with order within the state.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 30 March 2018 07: 07
      +7
      I completely share the author’s concerns.

      In addition to the author’s article, it makes sense to recall also a one-of-a-kind, rather complete study of J. Delarue, a French historian, a member of the Resistance movement, who systematically showed the origin, formation and scale of the Gestapo’s activity with sketches of leaders and revealed the essence of the ideology of fascism.
      Delarue J. History of the Gestapo / Per. with fr. Yu.A. Nemashaeva et al. - Smolensk: Rusich, 1998. - 480 sec.
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 30 March 2018 07: 29
        +15
        Click with the mouse and you are in the MATRIX !! laughing
        1. “Give me the media, and I will make a herd of pigs from any nation”
        On October 29, 1897, the Reich Minister of Education and Propaganda of Germany, Paul Joseph Goebbels, was born. One of the main criminals of Nazi Germany ""
        2 "" Give me the right to issue and control the money of the country, and I don’t care who makes the laws! ”- this phrase was uttered by Mayer Amschel Rothschild. A plan for world domination was created back in 1773 in the Rothschild store, where he collected 13 German bankers and invited them to participate in it.The ultimate goal of this plan was full control:

        Money control.
        Control over the military.
        Education control.
        Media control.
        Control over the church. "
      2. Don
        Don 31 March 2018 13: 02
        +1
        Quote: Tatiana
        I completely share the author’s concerns.

        Tatyana, if you share the concern about the situation in Ukraine, then the same should be with the situation in Russia. Everything that is written in the article applies to our country regarding the actions of special services. Imagine what will happen to us if some famous person or group of people begins to write calls: "Russia, rise! Living in a new way with old rats is impossible!", Or "Add yourself to the new revolutionary community" Russia, rise! “When we will 100 000 - go to the government quarter and remove all evil from our offices! ", Also" If we do not destroy power, power will destroy us "," Death to the regime of internal occupation - long live the nationalist revolution. "
        Such calls are beyond the law in any country, even in the most democratic. For better or worse is another question.
        1. Visa Witness
          Visa Witness April 5 2018 23: 27
          0
          Yes, we have such calls a dime a dozen
    2. Falcond
      Falcond 30 March 2018 07: 55
      +8
      Quote: 210ox
      It is better for Russia to be a totalitarian state. Although I do not like the word. A state with order within the state.

      I blurted out the excess on VO .. and at the expense!)
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 30 March 2018 08: 19
        0
        Quote: FalconD
        Quote: 210ox
        Russia is better to be a totalitarian state ..

        I blurted out the excess on VO .. and at the expense!)
        But only after the meeting, a warning, if he could not stand the trial period !!!!!!! Only then!
        1. your1970
          your1970 30 March 2018 11: 25
          +1
          and the noble Stirlitz collage came out ... I liked it ...
          that's how folk jokes are born
        2. Don
          Don 31 March 2018 13: 06
          +1
          Quote: Reptiloid
          But only after the meeting, a warning, if he could not stand the trial period !!!!!!! Only then!

          "And who are the judges?"
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 30 March 2018 10: 20
        +3
        Quote: FalconD
        I blurted out too much on VO..i in expense!)

        But already, they will not be banned! yes
      3. Freeman
        Freeman 30 March 2018 12: 40
        +5
        FalconD Today, 07:55 AM
        I blurted out the excess on VO .. and at the expense!)

        Wait a minute, there will be no laughing matter.
        There is a trial under the article "extremism".
        Judge:
        - You know this person?
        Defendant:
        - No.
        Judge:
        - And why is he in your friends on “classmates”?
    3. Vend
      Vend 30 March 2018 08: 54
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      It is better for Russia to be a totalitarian state. Although I do not like the word. A state with order within the state.

      Everything is good in moderation.
    4. Olgovich
      Olgovich 30 March 2018 10: 18
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      Russia is better to be totalitarian by the state. Although the word I do not like it. by the state with order inside the state.

      Then, according to your logic, in Ukraine everything is goodbecause there is totalitarianism.
    5. Heterocapsa
      Heterocapsa 30 March 2018 15: 50
      0
      Putin back in '91 (there is a rare video) said roughly the same thing.
    6. AUL
      AUL 31 March 2018 08: 38
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      It is better for Russia to be a totalitarian state. Although I do not like the word. A state with order within the state.

      If totalitarianism means order in the state, then with two hands I am FOR! But the order must begin from the TOP and be for everyone. And what it will be called - totalitarianism, dictatorship, monarchy or democracy - it makes no difference to me. There would be order, not chaos of the rusted thief!
  2. Fox
    Fox 30 March 2018 06: 36
    +28
    about Ukraine is interesting and touching ... Let's talk about the sleazy business of Colonel Kvachkov ... he was not conditionally soldered for 13 years.
    Or we’ll write about the “judge” Khakhaleva, with her sentences ...
    1. Shurale
      Shurale 30 March 2018 10: 12
      +4
      Why are you doing this? In this article, Ukraine is blamed and not Russia. Be careful. Believe my experience.
      1. kush62
        kush62 30 March 2018 18: 49
        +1
        Shurale (Shurale) Today, 10:12 ↑
        Why are you doing this? In this article, Ukraine is blamed and not Russia. Be careful. Believe my experience.

        discussion of the article "Herbarium of freaks. Putin is also to blame for it?"
        Shurale (Shurale) Today, 10:53 ↑ New
        They say that the real number is about 400. (About the dead in Kemerovo)
        Have you really been punished for spreading false rumors?
    2. Antares
      Antares 31 March 2018 13: 10
      +1
      Quote: Fox
      about Ukraine is interesting and touching.

      it is safe. Writing for similar cases in the Russian Federation (I still remember why Kungurov was blamed and most importantly how) is dangerous and shakes the scrapers / boat / Russia / order / and other memes ...
      For partners, everything is clear, for some separatism (fashionable) for others terrorism (for fashionable too). Planting ...
      according to Kungurov
      Linguistic examination saw “justification of terrorism” in the sentence “ISIS (a terrorist organization banned in Russia) - far from the most bloodthirsty and reckless " and all ... dry the crackers. And far from the only cases of arrests of bloggers and people landing. After all, Kungurov also wrote a lot. He wrote about power in the Russian Federation, criticized, etc.
      Surprisingly quickly in Ukraine and the Russian Federation courts make decisions. For the affairs of the high-born crushing slaves, for a long, tedious, and sometimes apologizing, property is returned ... and for dangerous slaves, just two, and to the jail ...
      I do not see the difference between a “totalitarian Ukraine” and a “strong and spiritual” RF in this regard. The law is equally on guard of the current government. More precisely, he is interpreted this way. In favor of power.
      partners rule, only the names are different. The scheme is the same.
      Rephrase a famous phrase
      In our state-the Authority decides who is Jewish and who is not! (May the citizens of Israel forgive me)
    3. Don
      Don 31 March 2018 13: 11
      0
      Quote: Fox
      about Ukraine is interesting and touching ... Let's talk about the sleazy business of Colonel Kvachkov ... he was not conditionally soldered for 13 years.
      Or we’ll write about the “judge” Khakhaleva, with her sentences ...

      Kvachkov was still lucky that he remained alive. Remember General Lev Rokhlin, who was killed for preparing for the coup.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 March 2018 06: 47
    +2
    Ukrainian authorities are well aware of the mechanism of organizing "popular unrest" and "revolts of the indignant"
    Why don't they know this mechanism? Who are the teachers and mentors? The authors below themselves answer this question.
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 30 March 2018 06: 52
    +10
    Total control over thoughts and money, separating individualism, pseudo-humanism, national and gender indifference - these are phenomena of all countries including the Russian Federation.
  5. bober1982
    bober1982 30 March 2018 07: 48
    +3
    The control should be over the Internet, from the side of special services, lack of control leads to chaos, you don’t have to go far for examples - provocations, incitement, all these bloggers are "corpses" and so on.
    Author's discussions about the global power of special services ...... This is where the perpetrators are appointed, without even listening to their arguments ..... - very naive.
    Less need to be carried away by Beria, by the way, and how it turns out - when it comes to your own native (you can actually experience the effects of these most ominous special services on yourself), then they immediately start voting about some arguments and facts.
  6. Falcond
    Falcond 30 March 2018 07: 57
    +3
    As if it’s different with us ... just monitor everything .., check ...
    After the "white bellies" ... everything is the same!
  7. midshipman
    midshipman 30 March 2018 08: 01
    +14
    Dear Alexander and Roman, thank you for the wonderful phrase "he is also registered on the Military Review website." Now there is an opportunity to see who writes them in the VO comments. This is lovely. You can immediately see the level of preparation of a person. So in my life I had to manage 45 enterprises, where more than 250 thousand specialists worked. I have published more than 400 scientific works and several dozens of art. He headed the departments in a number of universities of the country. Will I really write nonsense. Now I continue to lead the specials. The dissertation council and I believe that while my generation is alive, it is necessary to help young people grow morally and professionally.
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 30 March 2018 09: 23
      +8
      smile Yuri, you will not be touched. Intelligence agencies do not touch those who help young people grow morally and professionally .... well, at least if the authorities see it the same way.
    2. sxfRipper
      sxfRipper 30 March 2018 11: 31
      +6
      Will I really write nonsense.
      You already wrote about the Chukchi on the Kola Peninsula. Well this is so, in the little things. In order not to flood, I will only note that your opinion about rasped-raspberries during the USSR and why the USSR fell apart - from my belfry is WRONG (aha, with a capital letter). And not only mine.
      Threat - both you and I have my own SUBJECTIVE opinion on Soviet issues. It all depends on the size of the feeder, from which a particular person was driven away.
      ZZY - and the fact that on the Kola Peninsula - the Sami, and not the Chukchi - a medical fact.
  8. Glory1974
    Glory1974 30 March 2018 09: 02
    +4
    Not only in Ukraine they condemn for posts on the Internet. In Russia, there were also several cases that human rights activists called "for likes on social networks."
    Several people were convicted of text messages to Georgia during the 08.08.08 war. So our intelligence services also control communications. And it is right. The whole question is that they do not cross the line, when in reality the representatives of the special services can do whatever they want. There were articles about it on the site about how an FSB employee opened a case against reenactors in Voronezh.
    1. Larisa Byvsheva
      Larisa Byvsheva April 5 2018 09: 30
      0
      For not figs to write nonsense.
  9. chikenous59
    chikenous59 30 March 2018 09: 09
    +4
    We often talk and write about the fact that modern technology allows you to create a chaos situation quite quickly and efficiently enough. Moreover, we believed in this thesis so much that

    Before the election, the authors of this article themselves used such technologies of buildup, PR Grudinin
    1. megaKritik
      megaKritik 30 March 2018 10: 32
      +1
      Grudinin could save Russia, but now it's too late
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 30 March 2018 11: 47
        +6
        Quote: megaKritik
        Grudinin could save Russia, but now it's too late


        And Poroshenko has already saved Ukraine ?!
        1. megaKritik
          megaKritik 30 March 2018 14: 15
          0
          in vain do you scold Grudinin, do you think it is easy to keep the state farm afloat in the sea of ​​capitalist sharks in the suburbs? Mind and talent is not necessary?
          1. Visa Witness
            Visa Witness April 5 2018 23: 29
            0
            In Moscow, no. The main thing is to pay who you need and your goods will be bought up in Moscow like pies
      2. sapporo1959
        sapporo1959 30 March 2018 12: 35
        +3
        Well, they decided to stay on the old savior. Eighteen years lifts another fifteen and how it will be in a fairy tale. 33!
      3. NyeMoNik70
        NyeMoNik70 30 March 2018 12: 46
        +2
        The sternum has every chance to jerk and save his native Israel, it's too early
      4. vasya.pupkin
        vasya.pupkin 30 March 2018 13: 43
        +3
        Quote: megaKritik
        Grudinin could save Russia, but now it's too late

        Grudinin-REDISKA, red on the outside, and white on the inside!
  10. BAI
    BAI 30 March 2018 09: 17
    +1
    Since 2005, Ukraine has had a unit (military unit - whatever) of the Armed Forces for working on the Internet. Based in Bovary. A similar institution is in Lviv. The Internet has been monitored for a long time and professionally.
  11. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 30 March 2018 09: 20
    +5
    So I wrote for a long time that the Russian government, its power block copies many aspects of security in Ukraine. This is no longer a secret. And yes, the Russian authorities will tighten the screws in the net with all those who disagree. The methods of pressure will be different and economic - dismissal from work, urgent closure of loans, etc. and to criminal. Will be planted the most stubborn disagreements with the authorities, but again, under the sauce of the economy, criminals, etc.
    I have long been ready for this.
    1. NyeMoNik70
      NyeMoNik70 30 March 2018 18: 43
      +2
      Run, save yourself, Ridna-Nenka Ukraina Zhde. Take kobzar, bat, helmet and flag. Fat, take fat. Forgot, sorry. If the train is through Odessa, drop by on Vorobyov 9, there are specialists, they help repatriates there.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 30 March 2018 19: 07
        0
        smile And what's the point of going there from one dashing to another?
        1. Antares
          Antares 31 March 2018 13: 27
          0
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          smile And what's the point of going there from one dashing to another?

          illusions. A change of scenery can affect. laughing
          In fact, the same thing.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 31 March 2018 16: 57
            0
            smile I agree, you have your own press, we have our own press. The truth is not all one can achieve. The manipulation of the consciousness of the masses is put on stream.
  12. BAI
    BAI 30 March 2018 09: 31
    +1
    The main enemy of the Ukrainian government is Facebook. It is for the posts posted on this resource that the Ukrainian courts sentenced Ukrainians to various terms.

    Mordokniga is a pro-Ukrainian resource, where the co-owner is Ukrainian. And this resource is the most massive in Ukraine, they already openly consider it theirs. They banyat for “h.o.kh-ol”, but freely pass “k-a.ts-a-p” and “m.o.s-ka.l”. Novel Matveev was banned for the verse, with a declaration of love for Russia. This is not an enemy, but a faithful henchman of the Ukrainian authorities, which is why they gave out the coordinates not acceptable to Ukraine.
    1. Antares
      Antares 31 March 2018 13: 30
      0
      Quote: BAI
      And this resource is the most massive in Ukraine

      Facebook PR in the highest stands, calling to abandon VKontakte and Odnoklassniki.
      But..
      The figures
  13. Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov 30 March 2018 09: 36
    +2
    The government of Ukraine by the Nazi organized crime group has become terrorist and totalitarian in the fight against dissent at the state level. At this stage, the defeat of Nazism by the forces of the opposition is no longer possible. Ukro-Nazism will finally ruin the country and the people Only external forces can defeat it.
  14. Siberian1965
    Siberian1965 30 March 2018 09: 37
    +4
    I did not understand what the article was about. The fact that the intelligence services of the whole world use social networks. What a schoolboy does not know about this, and who thinks with his head, he is so sure of this. I see the only benefit of the article is that it implicitly leads to the conclusion that a herd of pan-legged heads could not, in principle, be organized without the support of powerful intelligence agencies and, of course, a huge infusion of money. Passionaries b ... b. It’s ridiculous.
    1. Shurale
      Shurale 30 March 2018 10: 17
      +1
      A usual article for some time, on the topic - look how bad it is in Ukraine and how good it is with us. There were many, and more will be. Follow the news.
  15. Altona
    Altona 30 March 2018 10: 13
    +7
    But isn’t it the same with us? Likewise, they can stick a term for a repost or post.
  16. Freeman
    Freeman 30 March 2018 10: 25
    +7
    And one of the main criteria of such a state will be the global power of the special services. And, of course, the judicial system is completely subordinate to the authorities. This is where the perpetrators are appointed, even without hearing their arguments in their own defense.

    Actually, the authors have now described the path of development of the state in modern Russia.
    The current ruling elite seeks to take the country's population under total control. After a spontaneous rally of the population in Kemerovo (which, incidentally, was illegal under the current legislation) which was “thrown in” about “suppressing the true number of victims by the authorities”, the media began to “raise a wave” for canceling anonymity on the Internet (by the way, this “anonymity” didn’t interfere calculate a certain "Ukrainian pranker"). After the “case of Savva Terentyev” about inciting hatred of the “wrong cops” social group, things began to start for inciting hatred of the social group “representatives of the authorities”. Now any “overly emotional” statement criticizing the “authorities” can be qualified as “insulting an official in execution”.
    Even a feeling like patriotism is distorted by the current government. Under the influence of the "external threat", they are trying to rally us around the "national leader" and his entourage, posing as protecting the interests of a narrow group of people, as an idea of ​​defending the Homeland. For this, the historical memory of the people is gradually being “blotted out”, as indicated by the “drapery” of the Lenin Mausoleum during the parades on Red Square. Even for posting photographs of the defeated Nazi banners during the Victory Parade, a criminal case “for demonstrating Nazi symbols” (the case of Mikhail Listov) is opened.
    The failure of the current "rulers" of Russia to formulate the idea of ​​the existence of the state, to set the vector for its development, is replaced by an attempt to take the population under total control, with the goal of "preserving" the existing "status quo".
  17. Altona
    Altona 30 March 2018 10: 30
    +4
    Quote: Freeman
    Actually, the authors have now described the path of development of the state in modern Russia.

    ----------------------
    Thank you, you expanded my thesis. I was too lazy to paint in such detail, you reflected all the nuances. Any power is totalitarian or strives for this and only sometimes hangs the screen of democracy and respect for social equality.
    1. Vlad Petrov
      Vlad Petrov 30 March 2018 11: 41
      +1
      What a bunch of provocateurs - instigators - instigators - indignants-insurgents here in the morning. Crude work is not respected.
  18. Altona
    Altona 30 March 2018 10: 33
    +1
    Quote: Freeman
    The failure of the current "rulers" of Russia to formulate the idea of ​​the existence of the state, to set the vector for its development, is replaced by an attempt to take the population under total control, with the goal of "preserving" the existing "status quo".

    -------------------------------
    If we formulate this idea, we must return to the preservation of Russian civilization along the lines of Brest-Kushka-Vladivostok. And for this we need to get rid of the Western model and the Western center, but they do not want to. Although even the West is already dictating this, "you either blame it, or submit and surrender completely."
  19. Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo 30 March 2018 11: 34
    +2
    I probably also soon will get from the SBU of Ukraine, I was going to rest in the Crimea in the summer, and here I wrote it.
    they’ll probably put me a bastard
  20. Normal ok
    Normal ok 30 March 2018 11: 50
    +2
    Ukraine then, Ukraine. Yes, in all countries where the Internet is developed, special services monitor the activity of citizens in social networks, and take note. And Russia in this case is no exception.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 30 March 2018 18: 49
      0
      Quote: Normal ok
      Ukraine then, Ukraine. Yes, in all countries where the Internet is developed, special services monitor the activity of citizens in social networks, and take note. And Russia in this case is no exception.

      Alas, we are different in Russia and are learning fast .. Their technologies do not work for us!
      And the funny thing is that we act with their own patterns against them .. It works! Here they are in the west and rage in the ephemeral .. heh heh
      1. Antares
        Antares 31 March 2018 13: 47
        0
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Their technology does not work with us!

        Quote: MIKHAN
        then we act with their own patterns against them

        interesting phenomenon.
        There is no fundamental difference between the methods. Declare one thing in practice another. There is no difference between a tight RF before a democratic USA or Ukraine.
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 31 March 2018 14: 09
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          Quote: Antares
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Their technology does not work with us!

          Quote: MIKHAN
          then we act with their own patterns against them

          interesting phenomenon.
          There is no fundamental difference between the methods. Declare one thing in practice another. There is no difference between a tight RF before a democratic USA or Ukraine.

          Did not miss my comment first but .. Russia is learning fast! So don't be offended
          "brothers" .. If we start stripping! That's it ..
      2. naidas
        naidas 31 March 2018 17: 44
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        Quote: MIKHAN
        And the funniest thing

        It’s just ridiculous that in 2014 the ruble fell, then it paid ridiculous contributions to PACE, then it paid ridiculously fines in Wada, we funnyly accept exiled diplomats from everywhere. In short, all of you are laughing at.
  21. isker
    isker 30 March 2018 12: 31
    +2
    In Transcarpathia - everything is right, because it’s not worth the waste of state lands! And the whole of Ukraine - in fact, is the patrimony of Russia, who would not say anything or try to squeeze something out! Russia is interested in a "whole" country within its allotted borders and no one is allowed to poke in this garden!
  22. Sverdlov
    Sverdlov 30 March 2018 19: 08
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    Quote: Fox
    about Ukraine is interesting and touching ... Let's talk about the sleazy business of Colonel Kvachkov ... he was not conditionally soldered for 13 years.
    Or we’ll write about the “judge” Khakhaleva, with her sentences ...

    I just crave for people to come and ask me a question - is the judge of the Sverdlovsk Regional Court Shalamova exactly a criminal?
    So do not come and do not ask questions. They are unsubscribing like all the previous 17 years ...
    https://m.vk.com/id453567502
  23. 123456789
    123456789 30 March 2018 22: 52
    +1
    IN AND. Lenin: Every revolution is only worth something if it can defend itself am


    More details: http://comstol.info/2011/11/politika/2637 am
  24. naidas
    naidas 31 March 2018 17: 38
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    And public power can serve as the “fourth leg of the chair” of state power as a whole (from the article Collapse of Russia from the inside. Where is the way to salvation?), So write more on the Internet.
  25. Awaz
    Awaz April 1 2018 12: 44
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    We are mostly adult men here and poorly poorly (with rare exceptions) we are trying to think with our head. However, many have children, especially adolescents, and a little over 18. I would just advise you to try to politely talk to them what they think about the current situation in the country. And you will be very surprised that most of them are seriously poisoned by the so-called "liberal" propaganda. My child sometimes asks me at least for controversial moments about the events taking place around. And always always in his head is cruel negative to the authorities. According to the same tragedy in Kemerovo, he also spoke out that the authorities are to blame for everything. And he is at least really trying to figure out and understand the essence, but most of them are hardly trying. They are fueled by this negativity and the more they drive it into their heads, the more radical they become in relation to the authorities. And at some point, all those who feed them with information can easily raise them to a riot.
    so, look after the children and in an unobtrusive way try to clarify that all the problems are not so much from the thieves in power but from our personal slovenliness (even so)
    1. Kolaaps
      Kolaaps April 1 2018 20: 55
      +1
      .... It doesn’t work and it’s no sense zilk ..... One politely and unobtrusively do not know how to communicate .... They did not learn .... Mea kulpa
      at 6 a.m. kick - dress uniforms briefs jogging boots, 14 pull-ups, 6 coup ups, 3 power-out ..... 2 buckets of ice water on a steamed pink body ..... Well, like 3-4 sandwiches and a glass of sweet I earned tea .... Shaving, ironing my pants ..... And mind you, beloved grandson, - until you press the button 60 times, you sew a new video on your computer ..... So the brains start spinning in a different way .... Zayets came from the Army - 3 months in the grandmother’s feather bed - 12 kg “grew up”
      Now let's bet
    2. MelkorAintGood
      MelkorAintGood April 3 2018 23: 53
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      And why is it to be positively inclined towards the authorities? Not to the homeland, but to the authorities. It always touched how the patriots establish the same relationship: “the dominant organized criminal group with the kings at the head” = “homeland, which must be loved and which cannot be criticized”. It is possible and necessary to criticize, because There is a reason.
      "poisoned by liberal propaganda." It’s even funny to comment. Who is poisoned? Maybe enough to remove the curtains from the windows and see what is happening around? No propaganda is needed here, believe me.
  26. Desperado
    Desperado April 2 2018 17: 29
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    Quote: 210ox
    It is better for Russia to be a totalitarian state. Although I do not like the word. A state with order within the state.

    Those. except how does totalitarianism shine for us? In my opinion, the last century showed perfectly that this mode is not viable. Solzhenitsyn correctly noted "100 years of degradation" threw Russia back in development.