In Russia, commented on the statement of Kiev about sacrificing the Ukrainian Navy

The Ukrainian command is constantly looking for excuses about the reasons for the loss of warships during the "Crimean spring", reports RIA News Statement by State Duma Deputy Dmitry Belik.

Previously Assistant Commander of Ukrainian fleet First-rank captain Marina Kanalyuk spoke about a deliberate donation by the national Navy during the events of 2014 in order to put the rest of the military units on alert.

We dragged time to enable higher structures to create conditions for the use of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in such a situation, and the Navy, in fact, sacrificed itself in order to give Ukraine a chance to gather all the military power that is was in the ranks and was not in the ranks,

she said.

According to Belik, the Ukrainian command "is very unconvincingly portraying the fleet as a conscious victim."

We agreed with all Ukrainian ships within a few days on the principle of "we will depict the assault, and you will surrender." In those days, the Ukrainian fleet was morally opposed to the leaders of the Maidan, and all these tales about “gathering the rest of the army” are ten tanks in the Kherson region, which did not even dare to provoke against the militia standing in Armyansk and Chongar. The Ukrainian command is now preparing to educate the youth, and there is nothing to tell them anything other than its worthlessness and cowardice. So come up stories about the conscious self-sacrifice of the fleet,

stressed the deputy.

In turn, the commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Vladimir Komoyedov, noted that the arguments of the Ukrainian Navy about "sacrificing oneself" are illogical nonsense.

"Sacrificing oneself" seems to be the basis of the combat use of the Navy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. For other methods of warfare, they did not have, nor will there be, any competent naval personnel, forces or means. If they even wanted to, they couldn’t have done anything in military terms against the Black Sea Fleet in 2014,

said Komoyedov.

He pointed out that “a significant part of the naval forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine led by their commander at that time came under the jurisdiction of the Crimea”, and those who went “to permanent base in Odessa are not the most competent naval specialists of the Armed Forces of Ukraine”.

So these arguments about sacrifice, temporary prolongation and the current power of the Ukrainian army can be viewed as an illogical bullshit on the topic "In the garden elder, and uncle in Kiev,"

concluded Komoyedov.

Comments

[Russia]

The fleet is commanded by a tanker and it pleases He also probably announces a free-kick and removes him from the field, like the artistic director of the People’s Theater from the film “Watch Out for the Car”

[Spartanez300]

What kind of military power is she talking about, raving or something. Everyone is looking for some excuses if not for this or that, then we would give them. Honestly, it's funny to listen.

[210ox]

Sacrificed what is not ..

Quote: Spartanez300

What kind of military power is she talking about, raving or something.

[Going]

Quote: Rusland

The fleet is commanded by a tanker and it pleases He also probably announces a free-kick and removes him from the field, like the artistic director of the People’s Theater from the film “Watch Out for the Car”

You can’t command what is not, therefore, the tankman ...

[LeonidL]

With such a fleet, the tractor driver will command ...

[Borik]

[Quote] [/ quote]
Don’t say that Ukrainians cleverly acted, leaving us this rusty iron so that we would dispose of it.

[AleksPol]

Spring, menopause, but you never know what this melancholy can have.

[Flyer_64]

Quote: AleksPol

Spring, menopause, but you never know what this melancholy can have.

Fantasy from lack of sexual relations.

[LeonidL]

Do not offend the girl! Not melancholy, but low-chunk - these are two big differences! ... I mean two different rooms and different prescriptions for drugs!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Rusland

The fleet is commanded by a tanker and it pleases

Why not a gynecologist? This is now a European trend.

[AleksPol]

Andrew welcome. Better proctologist, for Ukraine it is more relevant

[NEXUS]

Quote: AleksPol

Andrew welcome.

Welcome.

Quote: AleksPol

Better proctologist, for Ukraine it is more relevant

On the other hand, all this is a very sad sight ...

[AleksPol]

And when has there been positive news from Ukraine lately? I don’t remember something.

[NEXUS]

Quote: AleksPol

And when has there been positive news from Ukraine lately? I don’t remember something.

I mean that, in fact, all this Bendery and NATO evil spirits divorced on our territory. In what nightmare could the Soviet generals dream of this?

[AleksPol]

So they would not have allowed this.

[Hammerlock]

yes no, but this one

Intelligence of the APU exploded mine

[210ox]

Andrew... A sad sight ... Ass at the reception ...

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: AleksPol

Andrew welcome.

Welcome.

Quote: AleksPol

Better proctologist, for Ukraine it is more relevant

On the other hand, all this is a very sad sight ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Rusland

The fleet is commanded by a tanker and it pleases

Why not a gynecologist? This is now a European trend.

Quote: AleksPol

Andrew welcome. Better proctologist, for Ukraine it is more relevant

Or maybe they need help to solve the problem with the brain, then everything will work out with everything else?

[Vadivak]

Quote: Rusland

The fleet is commanded by a tanker and it pleases

Yeah like in the song
Yes, you have a mother - a teacher .....

[Metallurg_2]

The commander of the Navy has a unique military rank in world history: admiral of the tank forces.
As for the ships - under his leadership, they can only execute the command "Dig in!"

[Elizar Zadunaysky]

and who else will be able to command submarines, although they are not in the steppes of Ukraine, only the tanker to whom the tank was not trusted

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Rusland

The fleet is commanded by a tanker and it pleases

We have a videoconferencing commander

[Vladimirets]

"We took time to enable higher structures to create the conditions for the use of the Armed Forces in such a situation, and the Navy, in fact, sacrificed itself in order to give Ukraine a chance to collect all the military power that exists, which was in the ranks and was not in the ranks "

Now, they are probably worried, the “invincible armada” in the war against the Crimean bridge would be very useful.

[210ox]

Conditions for the use of the APU? How is it? They were created? So why I do not see the APU in the Crimea?

Quote: Vladimirets

"We took time to enable higher structures to create the conditions for the use of the Armed Forces in such a situation, and the Navy, in fact, sacrificed itself in order to give Ukraine a chance to collect all the military power that exists, which was in the ranks and was not in the ranks "

Now, they are probably worried, the “invincible armada” in the war against the Crimean bridge would be very useful.

[helmi8]

Quote: Vladimirets

Now, they are probably worried, the “invincible armada” in the war against the Crimean bridge would be very useful.

Yeah ... They would have flooded them, blocking the Kerch Strait

[Cat]

There is nothing to blame on someone else's face if you have your own curve!
To be honest, it’s already raked to hear, God forgive me, nonsense and nonsense.

[Masya masya]

Assistant Commander of the Ukrainian Fleet, Captain First Rank Marina Kanalyuk

Baba on the ship, Khan of the Navy ...

[210ox]

Marina, do not be discouraged .. In the early 90s, one cook .. Ah, cook! Saved a whole tanker on the Volga .. Together with the crew .. They got drunk and made a firework ..

Quote: Masya Masya

Assistant Commander of the Ukrainian Fleet, Captain First Rank Marina Kanalyuk

Baba on the ship, Khan of the Navy ...

[Masya masya]

Each rule has an exception ... in the case of the Krajina fleet, everything is strictly according to the rules ...

[210ox]

There, yes, I agree. The funeral procedure is strictly regulated ..

Quote: Masya Masya

Each rule has an exception ... in the case of the Krajina fleet, everything is strictly according to the rules ...

[Observer2014]

Masya masya (Marina)

Woman on the ship, Khan Navy

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statement of Kiev on the sacrifice of the Ukrainian Navy

It was they who prepared for this sacrifice for a long time. For almost a quarter of a century, these pieces of iron barely served. So that later we could sacrifice this rubbish. It seems that our warriors spent their forces on keeping these troughs afloat. Then yes. I agree. The plan was successful

[Russia]

But they dug up the Black Sea, a shoemaker without boots

[Angestyr]

you need to read the word "power" in the Ukrainian interpretation
"Relics" - the remains (read without further interpretation)

[KVU-NSVD]

We dragged time to enable higher structures to create conditions for the use of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in such a situation, and the Navy, in fact, sacrificed itself in order to give Ukraine a chance to gather all the military power that is was in the ranks and was not in the ranks,

Some kind of crazy-meaningless statement. More like a set of words. In what self-sacrifice is probably known only to this woman with epaulets of caperang ..

[Going]

According to Belik, the Ukrainian command "is very unconvincingly portraying the fleet as a conscious victim."

They raped poor Ukraine and continue to swagger.

[svp67]

Assistant Commander of the Ukrainian Fleet, Captain First Rank Marina Kanalyuk

... was born on October 5, 1978 in the family of a soldier in the village of Vanino, Sovgavansky district, Khabarovsk Territory. In Soviet times, military families often changed their place of residence. The service threw them from end to end of a huge country, so Marina, an officer daughter, was brought up almost in Spartan conditions. After the collapse of the Union, my father took the oath of allegiance to the people of Ukraine and received a position in the operational management of the General Staff - the holy of holies of the Armed forces: it is this unit that prepares action plans for all possible cases.
The family remained in Sevastopol. When Marina graduated from high school and the problem of choosing a university arose, the family council decided: to enter the Nakhimov Sevastopol Naval Institute. She was an excellent student and sportswoman, was engaged in swimming and tennis, therefore, there were no problems with admission.
Years of study passed quickly, and a young fair-haired girl, having received lieutenant epaulettes, set off for distribution to one of the Crimean units - a separate communications center for electronic warfare (EW).

The part turned out to be so “separate” that for several days Marina could not find her future place of service, it was so successfully masked. In the end, among the hills and small forests, almost under the barn, she found, not without the help of her colleagues, her unit, which for several years became almost native.

The prewar decline of the Navy and the rest of the Armed Forces of Ukraine took place before her eyes. It was very difficult to maintain discipline in part: even self-mutilation happened. Under the command of a young specialist, there were almost twenty personnel, including the brave combat midshipman - a marine who exchanged five dozen. Of course, he kept discipline in general matters of service, says Captain Kanalyuk, but in his spare time, the former “black beret” liked to lay behind his collar, so the combat readiness of the unit left much to be desired.

“To show the former Marine Commander that he is not working well, I had to take unpopular measures. I hung a large sheet of whatman paper (thick paper) on the wall, where everyone noted what exactly he had done in a day. After a few weeks, it became clear who was doing what, ”recalls Marina.

One day, says the captain of the first rank, the trained tablet-players at the command post were replaced by high-heeled girls (“By God, it was clear, I clearly remember these heels,” she recalls), who had no idea which side of the transparent card they needed to stand. And after some time, the command had the idea that the country did not need parts of electronic warfare. The unit was disbanded. Senior Lieutenant Marina Kanalyuk in the absence of the unit commander led, if I may say so, the liquidation commission. I handed over affairs to the capital’s archive, dealt with equipment. Old trucks - ZILs and "lawns" - had to be driven to other parts of the fleet. Because of this, the officer had a conflict with the then commander of a squadron of diverse forces Igor Tenyukh, the future commander and minister. Before sending the equipment, Marina received two mutually exclusive telegrams, but decided to send the convoy, which caused the admiral’s anger. Later the misunderstanding was settled, and, thanks to Tenyuhu, Marina received distribution to a new duty station. There she put on new shoulder straps of the captain-lieutenant.

Having almost eight years of experience in military service, she began to engage in science, participated in the creation of the theory of the use of forces and means in modern warfare. We omit the specifics, for obvious reasons, but believe me: it was not a waste of time. Then Kanalyuk mastered the direction of international military cooperation. Becoming an assistant commander, she began to deal with the problem of the Russian Black Sea Fleet being in Ukraine and joined the Ukrainian-Russian interstate commission for the division of the fleet. True, she could not accomplish anything outstanding there: all have already decided politicians, and even in the 1990s.

By the way, at the time of the appointment, namely April 3, 2009
... in Sevastopol, the commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Admiral Igor Tenyukh, introduced to the admirals and officers of the command of the Ukrainian navy his assistant, captain of the 3rd rank, Marina Kanalyuk.
"She will be responsible for issues related to the functioning of the structures of the Russian Black Sea Fleet and its presence on the territory of Ukraine. ", The message says.
Black Sea Fleet in the Crimea, and the APU and the trace has caught a cold, so that even answers ...

[Russia]

Thanks for the selection

[Sands Careers General]

Ukrainian Navy: a fleet in Crimea sacrificed itself to win time for Kiev.
Tick ​​the lads!

[Retvizan 8]

And yet, I think ukro-patriots should be proud of the exploits of their valiant sailors!
You ask what feats?
Well, it’s not for me, it’s for Parashenka every day for several countries for his country and its structures he comes up with.

[sabakina]

to give Ukraine a chance to gather all its military power,

Still collected around the world. But Russia is a toadstool, it didn’t come to war!

[Incvizitor]

The whole of Ukraine was sacrificed for the opportunity to clean the toilet in Europe.

[mavrus]

But I didn’t understand ... What was it? Zrada il peremoga?

[Falcond]

And the Ukrainian command also sacrificed the creation of its space group ???))

[izya top]

and so rejoice at the collapse of the USSR, such a shame for sailors, as a navy, and in a nightmare do not dream

[Vl1602ad]

Quote: svp67

The prewar decline of the Navy and the rest of the Armed Forces of Ukraine took place before her eyes.

Apparently from the official biography: they introduce into the minds of Ukrainians that a war is underway with Russia, and Ukraine is fighting at the forefront with the "evil empire."

[Jeremiah]

The fleet is commanded by a tanker who tried, as it was necessary for four tanks in 2014 to restore order in Simferopol. A woman in the assistant commander’s mouth opens wider than intended, writes a new, sacrificial history of the fleet, which never represented any combat value. Everything is as we have now, it is necessary to blurt out something, so that they notice, so that they don’t forget

[APASUS]

Nobody wanted to answer for the defeat. This is where the legs grow from. To name the guilty person who is now in power means to make problems for yourself, like this, with every turn of the idea and hypothesis of failure, there are speculations.
The most interesting thing will be after the departure of Poroshenko and his team. Whoever comes to take responsibility for the mess will not and everything will pop up in a new color. They will immediately find the culprit

[faterdom]

Quote: svp67

Senior Lieutenant Marina Kanalyuk in the absence of the unit commander led, if I may say so, the liquidation commission.

Well, experienced fellow. I hope that this experience will be very useful to her, for the Navy, this is what the doctor ordered, it is high time to create a liquidation commission, and finally get down to business. But the ground forces will be liquidated in the boiler way, there Zakharchenko with his "commission".

[Palagecha]

That our military, that the Ukrop ones are sometimes annealed ... you sit and think how a person who makes such ridiculous statements as a mockery of common sense falls into such high posts, if sometimes you require a higher education to get a simple sold in a sack, knowledge of a foreign language, a car, and still need to go through a polygraph ... If, for example, if you raise a military alert, and do not touch the fleet at all, if there is a military threat, then how will this improve something?

[Altona]

Quote: NEXUS

Why not a gynecologist? This is now a European trend.

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In general, I am inclined towards a proctologist, if we already put the doctor at the head of the "most powerful army in Europe." And "sacrificing oneself" is also a trend.

[olimpiada15]

If they sacrificed, then rusty objects from the cemetery of the ships. It’s strange somehow, to declare scrap as a victim.

[mult-65]

I am far from a naval special. But with regards to land types of aircraft, here we have an ever-increasing hemorrhagic on the Khokhlyat side. There is a huge bunch of well-trained ideological fighters.

[LeonidL]

Was there a fleet ??? That is the question!!!

[tochila]

Type - WE DID, BUT NOT FROM FEAR, BUT FROM HUGE DECISION !!!!

[Catfish]

Quote: AleksPol

And when has there been positive news from Ukraine lately? I don’t remember something.

There were. Recently. Tymoshenko congratulated Putin on his re-election.

Quote: Metallurg_2

The commander of the Navy has a unique military rank in world history: admiral of the tank forces.
As for the ships - under his leadership, they can only execute the command "Dig in!"

You slightly confuse the tank troops with the infantry, the command "dig in" is from the Queen of the Fields.

But in fact: no matter who commands what is not, nothing from such a command will change. So they only have such statements that, apart from laughter, do not cause anything. How "strong and powerful" the Ukrainian army is visible to everyone who wants to see and hear. What do you want to sacrifice - but to the point of Nem. It is a pity that they have come to this. After all, not every second Zapadenskaya bastard there and not every third. (I hope).

[Proton]

They both donated a whit in the Crimea, and donated tanks, guns and other things in the Donbass

[shinobi]

Oh, these tales! Oh, these storytellers!

[demo]

And here, in fact, the heroine herself. These are the sacrificial persons. Both by itself and the fleet.

[Suhow]

donated the fleet ... well, well ... most of it, like Zaporizhzhya, never went to sea, rusted .... Nem was penniless (and then on the battery for the boat it was all necessary 20 lemons of hryvnia), on .. the fig was draining at the section during the section ... so that later it would be scrapped. There will be no brain, it’s greed. The sailors served most of the shore service, like most flyers. Who will follow such "leaders" ...