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Why Grudinin shaved his mustache, or How does the ideological enemy shave us

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The balance of forces between the liberal-pro-Western and state-patriotic press in Russia leaves no second any chance of getting into the media mainstream.


Why Grudinin shaved his mustache, or How does the ideological enemy shave us


There is a well-founded assumption that the so-called patriotic propaganda, which has now flooded the Internet, is a stupid special operation of the enemy. In order to completely discredit the very patriotic idea and instill in the readership a persistent aversion to the ideas promoted in such a bawdy way.

For example, such a “patriotic” calendar. Only an obvious enemy could have thought of putting the most famous Russian statesmen and the head of the DPR, Alexander Zakharchenko, on the American tank M-4 "Sherman" of the Second World War. In addition, cheeky styrenny from the American film "Rage" with Brad Pitt in the title role.



All these tales about two thousand American special forces, famously buried in the Eastern Gut by a Su-57 couple, about American submarines hopelessly stuck in the polar ice, about how we famously broke the Yellowstone volcano and about how Maria Zakharova broke all Western diplomacy into rags It seems that they have one purpose - to deprive even the appearance of credibility of the entire patriotic discourse and to develop persistent aversion to it as a whole.

Admittedly, this is a smart and promising tactic. Nowhere is there so much frank foolishness, idle talk and incompetence, as on the Internet resources of the so-called patriotic direction. Many of which, it seems, were created in conditions of complete lack of control in order to “troll” to a purely patriotic theme.

It is curious that a huge amount of pseudo-patriotic materials is published without any imprint, even without the author’s last name! That grossly violates the elementary norms of civilized journalism, gives rise to monstrous irresponsibility and ultimately completely repels a little bit thoughtful reader.

To which, as an alternative, much more competent and professionally made publications and publications are immediately slipped, but now with the exact opposite, including the clearly anti-state ideological charge. To do this, this alternative press has all the possibilities, both in terms of selection and training, and decent pay for its staff.

This allows the specified media to carry out an information policy that is clearly structured and carefully thought out in all aspects, covering almost all citizens' needs for relatively benign information. In such editions there are no minor things. And the frames are arranged in such a way as to squeeze out of any event or fact the maximum and strictly verified propaganda effect.

Particular attention is paid to headings as the most widely read, main snippet. News. It is in the headlines that the whole ideological essence of the news is embedded, for the sake of which they do not disdain even its deliberate distortion. This is considered quite acceptable, since it has been established that very few get to the "body" of the article.

Examples of such clearly emphasized headings may be the following:

"There are no invincible Russians."

We are talking only about the unsuccessful performance of our athlete at the World Championships. But this “meme”, which generalized the theme of the “victoriousness” of the Russians, will undoubtedly reach its addressee.

"Russia has prevented the UN Security Council from discussing human rights in Syria."

If you read the text, it will become clear that the editors of this publication had no reason to reduce the matter to the "insidious machinations" of Russia. Because together with Russia, China, Bolivia and Kazakhstan voted against it. And three more members of the UN Security Council abstained. But "omit", apparently, it was Russia that was required! What was done.

“Ukraine expelled a Russian journalist out of the country because of the elections.”

Pay attention to the style of the title! Instead of a calmly balanced "deported" contemptuous-abusive "kicked out" was used. Instead, "Kiev authorities" or "regime" says "Ukraine expelled." That is, the title consciously put an equal sign between the whole of Ukraine and the illegal regime, which does not enjoy even the minimum support of the people. And the task of inciting Russian hatred towards such Ukraine is successfully solved by mocking "ousted." So, drop by drop, from the part of our people enslaved by the West and its local mercenaries, the image of the enemy is being formed. Apparently, in order to make it more comfortable for us to destroy each other to the joy of the backstage owners of this factory of hatred.

And this is by no means isolated cases, but only illustrations that are quite typical for many editions of extremely stylized, if not to say directly hostile towards Russia and Russians, headline style.

Along with a thorough and, it must be admitted, in some cases highly professional work on introducing “correct headlines” into the mass consciousness, no less attention is paid to the formation of the most news picture of the day. Which, as far as can be judged, in a number of cases is focused on further fooling the audience and on creating complete informational chaos in the minds. For this, the technologies of dismantling the natural priority of news content are successfully used - from the most important to the unimportant and its replacement with an arbitrary pile-up and actual equalization of news that are objectively different in importance. News feeds of such publications are quite consciously mixed “vinaigrette” from the news about really key events, such as the statement of the Russian General Staff about the nature of the future war and the absolute nonsense adjacent to it about whether the former presidential candidate Grudinin shaved or not shaved his mustache.

Such a hodgepodge is a very effective means of diluting the system of traditional value priorities in the mass consciousness, which creates favorable conditions for the introduction of alternative landmarks and preferences to this cleared and leveled area.

They can tell me that the best way to avoid such undesirable indoctrination of one’s own consciousness is to stop using such sources of poor-quality information. However, not all so simple.

As a professional news journalist, based on my many years of experience, I can confidently assert that practically all noteworthy and at least relatively high-quality informational online media outlets in the Russian Federation, which have a mass audience, are controlled by so-called liberal-pro-Western circles.

At the same time, the state-patriotic segment is represented mainly by eternally yesterday's, fatally lagging behind the picture of fleeting events. Or those who frantically try to comply with the news agenda, but, for lack of their own funds, they derive content from a large spoon from the same enemy mainstream. As a result, even the terminological series of such publications practically ceases to differ from the “vocabulary” of anti-Russian media.

This was especially pronounced in the Ukrainian direction. Where would anti-Bandera-minded Russian publications naturally use such purely Kiev memes as the “antiterrorist operation”, “the armed forces of Ukraine”, despite the fact that they are essentially gangs of the illegal Kiev regime, “Ukrainian social activists” (this is about those bandits who have a habit of throwing bottles with combustible mixture into the windows of Russian diplomatic institutions). And so on, in the same vein. Alas, over the four years of struggle in Ukraine, no one from the Russian side has ever bothered to create an alternative to the US-Kiev conceptual apparatus, which is absolutely necessary for adequate coverage of these events.

It turns out that at a time when Russian President Vladimir Putin rightly speaks about the upheaval, unconstitutional nature of the current Kiev authorities, practically the entire Russian press uses in completely identical cases the terminology that legitimizes Kiev usurpers. Calling such, and without any quotes, not only as the president, head of parliament, deputies of the Verkhovna Rada and so on. Although even a schoolboy should be aware that the armed rebels, who seized state power by force, have no legal authority to call and hold any elections. From which it follows that all post-coup authorities in Ukraine are completely illegitimate.

And, finally, this frankly flawed “patriotic discourse” is supplemented from below by a stream of the most low-grade, hurray-patriotic “blizzard”, substantially seasoned with targeted defamatory injections of the opponent who skillfully worked under “his boyfriend”. And this is only the smallest thing that can be said in response to the long overdue question of why we are losing the information war.
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  1. Fox
    Fox 26 March 2018 06: 09
    +52
    on the carpenter screensaver- "in the subject" ...
    and the article on the case ... only these are not the machinations of the State Department, but they are trying to fool themselves.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 26 March 2018 06: 40
      +9
      About Plotnitsky- explicit sabotage. And for the headlines - the more implausible the headline, the less useful information.
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 26 March 2018 08: 16
        +27
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        And for the headlines - the more implausible the headline, the less useful information.

        It's funny to read such articles on VO.
        Look at the headlines of the Reporter.
        Not only I noted the "yellowness" in the headlines of the "Reporter".
        1. 210ox
          210ox 26 March 2018 08: 34
          +17
          By the way ... On VO in the tape anti-Russian videos are often skipped. Or with the name clearly provocative. Let’s put things in order in your own house.
          Quote: BecmepH
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          And for the headlines - the more implausible the headline, the less useful information.

          It's funny to read such articles on VO.
          Look at the headlines of the Reporter.
          Not only I noted the "yellowness" in the headlines of the "Reporter".
        2. Pax tecum
          Pax tecum 26 March 2018 12: 13
          +30
          So it turns out that at a time when Russian President Vladimir Putin quite rightly talks about the upheaval, unconstitutional character of the current Kiev government, almost the entire Russian press uses in similar cases the completely opposite terminology that legitimizes the Kiev usurpers. Naming such, and without any quotes, only the president, the head of parliament, deputies of the Verkhovna Rada, and so on.

          Oh, how!
          The author, obviously, forgot the WHO shook hands with Poroshenko and recognized the elections in Ukraine.
          And the author’s term “the entire Russian press” is somehow incorrect against this background.

          "Russia recognized Poroshenko, despite all the" nuances ", and expects that he will use the mandate of trust in order to stop the war." Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

          PS It seems that the author is fond of conspiracy thesis ...
          1. Svetlana
            Svetlana 26 March 2018 14: 01
            +12
            Quote: Pax tecum
            Oh, how!
            The author, obviously, forgot the WHO shook hands with Poroshenko and recognized the elections in Ukraine.

            Yes Yes Yes. And there is. The author began for health, and finished for peace. And I was really happy to start at the first lines. Indeed, at first they called the junta the Kiev authorities, then over time, they switched to the official names of the posts.
            What about the legitimacy of our elections? Not? Weak? Or is it better about a mustache?
          2. Natalia777
            Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 12
            +6
            Pax tecum, why are you pretending to be a hose? And the fool understands that there are rules of diplomacy. Or do you propose that instead of negotiations with Poroshenko about a ceasefire and an end to shelling of LDNR, Vladimir Putin send him away? And then people like you would say that Vladimir Putin is incapable of fulfilling his duties and is not negotiable!
            1. Svetlana
              Svetlana 26 March 2018 16: 02
              +8
              Quote: Natalia777
              Pax tecum, why are you pretending to be a hose? And the fool understands that there are rules of diplomacy. Or do you propose that instead of negotiations with Poroshenko about a ceasefire and an end to shelling of LDNR, Vladimir Putin send him away? And then people like you would say that Vladimir Putin is incapable of fulfilling his duties and is not negotiable!

              And what - is it really different? There are diplomats for diplomacy, and the head of state should not rush words. Something somehow does not fit: yesterday there were non-brothers, the junta, etc., and today we are already talking diplomatically. Etiquette, damn it. The same goes for tomatoes.
              1. Pax tecum
                Pax tecum 26 March 2018 18: 26
                +7
                Natalia777!
                Before talking about certain “rules of diplomacy,” you still should, in my opinion, understand / accept the fact that diplomatic rules act where they agree to abide. Then you can trace the logic of events yourself.
                There are such concepts as “event horizon” and “bifurcation point”, try to imagine this in big politics. And, there is still the military concept of “consolidating success”, which after the Crimea was quite appropriate. But, the bifurcation point is passed ...
                1. Angina
                  Angina 26 March 2018 19: 27
                  +1
                  I read your comments with great pleasure. Your syllable is both wonderful and noticeable. Thank.
        3. Alber
          Alber 26 March 2018 14: 20
          +5
          Quote: BecmepH
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          And for the headlines - the more implausible the headline, the less useful information.

          It's funny to read such articles on VO.
          Look at the headlines of the Reporter.
          Not only I noted the "yellowness" in the headlines of the "Reporter".

          Almost all of the world's media are corrupt ...
          And unfortunately, our majority is no exception. "30 pieces of silver" is like a magnet to them.
          And for the "zloty" media will unfold 180 degrees several times a day. An oligarch or a businessman for loot will be licked in the ass without getting tired.
          I recall how, during the Chechen campaigns, these clickbroaches spread rot and doused our army, officers and soldiers as the last criminals.
          And I am absolutely sure that if something like this happens again, they will again destroy the patriots in all directions.
          Poor Budanov remember ...
          Two twin officers, one of whom were also destroyed after being shown on TV thanks to the villain Koshman
        4. AUL
          AUL 26 March 2018 16: 03
          +7
          The article under the motto - "From a sick head to a healthy one!" That is, these urya-patriotic cries in the media and the internet are the machinations of the West and liberals in general ?! what But ...
          The most important CIA agent is Meehan!
          1. Click
            Click 26 March 2018 16: 13
            +2
            Rather, it works for a mosad wassat He he
        5. sxfRipper
          sxfRipper 29 March 2018 08: 47
          0
          Okay, just the headers. There are half (minimum) of articles - anonymous letters!
      2. dSK
        dSK 26 March 2018 15: 08
        0
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        the more implausible the heading, the less useful information.
        Fresh example: "The people are against power." March 22, 2018. Author: Samsonov Alexander.
        I didn’t even read. Who needs "anarchy - the mother of order. "
    2. 210ox
      210ox 26 March 2018 08: 37
      +6
      I would not call them "fools." Here is a hidden subtext. Although I am right, they play into the hands of the enemy.
      Quote: Fox
      on the carpenter screensaver- "in the subject" ...
      and the article on the case ... only these are not the machinations of the State Department, but they are trying to fool themselves.
    3. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 26 March 2018 09: 14
      +10
      Quote: Fox
      and the article on the case ... only these are not the machinations of the State Department, but they are trying to fool themselves.

      Undoubtedly, it’s impossible to carry such nonsense as some patriots here, exclusively for money!
    4. NordUral
      NordUral 26 March 2018 09: 50
      +19
      Not only fools, but also smart people. They managed to split the Communist Party and establish sabotage of joint work and Grudinin.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 March 2018 10: 15
        +17
        It’s clear that the fat belts are building their beautiful capitalistic future! It is important for them to destroy everything that can remind us of our great past, the Land of the Soviets .... I do not believe that you can set people on patriotism by crying out for everything that our ancestors achieved!
        This kind of chimera turns out ... chimeras do not live long, again everything will start to fall apart!
        1. free
          free 26 March 2018 11: 40
          +6
          Quote: rocket757
          It’s clear that the fat belts are building their beautiful capitalistic future! It is important for them to destroy everything that can remind us of our great past, the Land of the Soviets .... I do not believe that you can set people on patriotism by crying out for everything that our ancestors achieved!
          This kind of chimera turns out ... chimeras do not live long, again everything will start to fall apart!

          So already bursting at the seams!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 March 2018 13: 20
            +4
            This is bad, it’s not clear who will seize power over the country! No one worthy is visible, but there is no civil, monolithic society, to stand up for your interests!
            1. Natalia777
              Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 16
              +4
              Vladimir Putin is quite up to the task. Builds a social society in stages. Step by step - without revolutions and upheavals. Monolithic society 77% - voted for V.V. Putin. And whoever does not see this is either blind or works for mattresses.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 26 March 2018 14: 45
                +17
                The power of the fat-body capitalists, step by step, makes us slaves / servants of this class.
                Let's look at things.
                The only thing that really interesting was announced, the reform of education, i.e. partial return to the SOVIET system of standards. Those. THE SAME BASIC EDUCATION FOR EVERYONE. There will not be a separate program for cook children and fat children.
                This declaration is for now, let's see how it will be implemented ????
                Then we’ll talk about the fact that GDP is making some kind of step for the people! In the meantime, his entire program is HIMERA, an attempt to promise both yours and ours. It never happens in life. Let's see who will be the main recipient of gingerbread?
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 26 March 2018 23: 36
                  +2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  The power of the fat-body capitalists, step by step, makes us slaves / servants of this class.

                  We have half of the male able-bodied population, in principle, do not want to work and the state contains them, what kind of slavery are we talking about?
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 27 March 2018 08: 25
                    +3
                    Where does this information come from? indicate the source, official statistics, scientific justification, etc. .... links to social networks and other nonsense are not accepted!
                    In the meantime, my statement - you are mistaken. I will not express myself in a more stylized way, yet.
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 27 March 2018 09: 15
                      +2
                      just look at the number of guards in big cities ...
                      In the absence of any rights whatsoever, except to call the police .. What are they for? for the solidity / brutality of the owner?
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 27 March 2018 11: 30
                        +1
                        In principle, a security guard is also a profession and certainly a job.
                        The quality of training for most of this contingent is below the plinth. but I met real professionals who achieve real heights and positions in their profession, respectively, and the payment of their work is far beyond the average level!
                        In fact, in any profession you can find a contingent that does not meet the minimum standards of your profession! This body is already, does not want to learn anything! A professional in his business replaces several bodies that are just like that, wherever you can go this way! Intensification of production processes, have you heard about this? And the bodies will be gradually replaced by a professional manager of an automatic control system, safety! So it will be soon, believe me, in real production the replacement is in full swing!
                    2. Setrac
                      Setrac 27 March 2018 20: 38
                      +3
                      Quote: rocket757
                      Where does this information come from? indicate the source, official statistics, scientific justification, etc. .... links to social networks and other nonsense are not accepted!

                      I have the most reliable source of information - my eyes and ears. And I also have such a little thing - the neck is called, with it I twist my head in different directions and look around.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 28 March 2018 14: 02
                        +1
                        Can and so. Only from constant torsion of the head is it possible to split up - breakdown to occur!
                        Seriously, what are the issues for this particular field of activity? To protect the public places of the treb, to protect different bodies, also, at least they think so, to protect public order, too, it is necessary.
                        For the quantity, I didn’t notice anything special ... we have many more merchandisers and the same profession without great prospects, is not on the list of favorites for my children. The list goes on, such is the structure of our economy.
                        I personally prepare students in technical professions, because I have great respect for this.
                        The question is, what is the reason for our disagreements, I do not understand.
                        Is this profession not needed at all, or are there too many?
                        I personally stopped understanding when the same type of shops are being built at every step? I have the impression that buyers are simply not enough for all these objects!
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                      3. Alber
                        Alber 29 March 2018 07: 38
                        0
                        Quote: Setrac
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Where does this information come from? indicate the source, official statistics, scientific justification, etc. .... links to social networks and other nonsense are not accepted!

                        I have the most reliable source of information - my eyes and ears. And I also have such a little thing - the neck is called, with it I twist my head in different directions and look around.

                        This is the habit of a guard.
                        By the way, comrade setras for my only remark about brain deficiency, right there in a private message calls a freak, which indicates weakness, childish resentment and hysterical character.
                        And the most important thing is that he immediately knocks and complains to the moderator why they get a warning ... This is, as it were, not quite fair Comrade Smirnov))
                        I demand that the score be 1: 1. )))
                2. Ragoz
                  Ragoz 28 March 2018 22: 13
                  +1
                  The Russian people suffer from the Ear-Eye disease - What leads, does not hear, but what he hears, does not see!
              2. Sasha_Sar
                Sasha_Sar 26 March 2018 16: 50
                +11
                "Evgenia Vasilyeva, the former head of the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, convicted of millions of embezzlement, returned everything that was previously arrested, reports DEITA.RU.
                What exactly was returned to the main defendant in the Oboronservis case was not disclosed. According to the Investigative Committee, jewelry had been previously arrested for 120 million rubles - 1206 pieces, watches worth more than 7 million rubles - 37 pieces, cash in the amount of more than 3 million rubles, money on a bank card in the amount of 26 million rubles, money for accounts of companies controlled by the person involved in the amount of 322 million rubles, two apartments in St. Petersburg, a house in the Leningrad Region, an apartment in Molochny Lane in Moscow, a garage in the same house and non-residential premises on Arbat.
                According to TASS, the arrest was withdrawn due to the fact that Vasilyeva fully compensated the damage caused to the state.
                And for that, what do you say?
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 26 March 2018 21: 37
                  +3
                  I will not say, because I do not believe in the justice of our justice in this particular case! However, there are other cases for such surprise / indignation! This is precisely what undermines people's faith in the justice of power.
                  The people, in part, have expressed faith in GDP .... I am not against this particular figure, there is no other one at the moment, but there are a lot of complaints against him.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 26 March 2018 12: 04
          +16
          But this six-year-old will explain everything to us. And you should not doubt it after the soulful speeches of the newly-made guarantor.
          1. Natalia777
            Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 22
            +3
            Yes, you at least crack now from anger. Vladimir Putin has already made Russia different. It is enough to compare with Russia that Putin adopted about Yeltsin in 2000 and what Russia is now. Changes for the better have occurred global. For 6 years, Russia can be changed only within the framework of real opportunities. Putin has no magic wand to wave and became Paradise on earth.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 26 March 2018 14: 59
              +17
              Who is angry there?
              We will be realistic. The fact that GDP stopped the complete collapse of the country, no one denies.
              You will deny that the main recipients of the gingerbread, during his reign, were the AUTHORITY APPROXIMATE, other greedy grabbers who robbed the country's wealth, people? It could not be done just like that, the system of their covers.
              The people brought all this to their hump and the merit of the authorities is that we did not crash completely, not at all the main thing!
              Accepting all the arguments that the external pressure was terrible, no one wished us good from behind the hill, we could refer to this! But, after the Great Patriotic War, EVERYTHING WAS BETTER THAN ONE SCALE! Our country, our people overcame everything and made a great leap UP AND FORWARD !!!
              So with whom will we compare the current leadership? Or completely out of memory memory ... forgotten type?
              PS By the way, the villas, yachts, private jets and other nishtyaks, the Soviet leaders of that period did not have!
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 26 March 2018 23: 39
                +1
                Quote: rocket757
                You will deny that the main recipients of the gingerbread, during his reign, were the AUTHORITY APPROXIMATE, other greedy grabbers who robbed the country's wealth, people?

                This happens always and everywhere, regardless of nationality, faith, order and so on. This is the nature of man.
                Quote: rocket757
                PS By the way, the villas, yachts, private jets and other nishtyaks, the Soviet leaders of that period did not have!

                Well, of course, they used everything state, including special security.
                PySy The Soviet people eat red caviar through the lips of their party leaders.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 27 March 2018 09: 32
                  +5
                  They themselves wrote that this happens everywhere and always.
                  We will beat the facts!
                  The Soviet leadership did not starve, I know, although according to contemporaries, the party leadership of the CITY OF HERO LENINGRAD really ate at a lower standard than pilots of combat aircraft, CITY DEFENDERS! While real documents, evidence will not be presented, I will take it. that the bulk of the party workers, the country's leadership did not "eat" their people!
                  In fact - I personally was at the country residence \ state cottages of the first, Leningrad regional committee and the beginning. Leningrad Military District (1979 - 1983) well, greenhouse. fictuses, kenor sings, parrots squealing and ...... AND EVERYTHING! No golden bidets and all that stuff! By the way, when all objects were REMOVED from the STATE!
                  Until the collapse of the USSR, this practice worked clearly, nothing substantial to grab the former could not! There were facts when some, small, state ownership remained with the party leaders of a particularly high rank, but this was NOT FOREVER, but before! Families, relatives were left only their family property! After all, people worked, received salaries and acquired property. At what prices, on what conditions, I will not argue, I didn’t look for financial documents on the topic, but they are only PROOF!
                  In fact, the party bosses of the late period of the USSR, this .... I do not want to say anything good about them, they ruined MY COUNTRY! And they dragged away the people's good according to their interests. Maybe not everyone there is so cunning, sales for sure, but their common fault. that the USSR was, not is.
                  My opinion is that the USSR cannot be returned, live and build a new one of its own. For social justice we must fight TOGETHER, no one on a silver platter will bring us anything!
                  1. Sasha_Sar
                    Sasha_Sar 27 March 2018 10: 27
                    +4
                    I completely agree. There was such a structure of party control, which controlled so that the image and moral of the party nomenclature did not climb beyond the bounds of decency. They didn’t live in poverty, but for the time being they didn’t have any accounts for the hill.
                    1. Setrac
                      Setrac 27 March 2018 20: 47
                      +1
                      Quote: Sasha_Sar
                      climbed beyond the bounds of decency

                      This framework was very broad.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 28 March 2018 09: 18
                        +2
                        If this happened always and everywhere, what was the comparison done with?
                        I do not idealize our party leadership, I have many complaints about them. We will evaluate objectively.
                        How many "greedy freaks" were there then? What and how did they steal? How did it end for them and how often?
                        Those. facts, cases, deadlines? Bookkeeping is our everything!
                      2. Sasha_Sar
                        Sasha_Sar 29 March 2018 12: 26
                        0
                        Yes, I do not agree, the framework was just before Anropov Yu.V. quite normal. And the children over the hill did not study and the capital in offshore did not hold. And then the little gold that they stored in the "barns" lay dead weight, because they could not use it. And for the "currency" the execution is independent of rank and rank. "Castles" were modest, by modern standards, huts, and even those belonged to the state. And the country was not 22 million below the poverty line. Something like this.
                  2. Svetlana
                    Svetlana 27 March 2018 11: 08
                    +5
                    Quote: rocket757
                    My opinion is that the USSR cannot be returned, live and build a new one of its own. For social justice we must fight TOGETHER, no one on a silver platter will bring us anything!

                    And my opinion is that the USSR is quite realistic to return. But for this it is necessary to return those ideas, those moral values ​​and those goals that stood before the country. And for this, first of all, to remove this oligarchic thieves' state system, its creators and keepers on Magadan and a pickaxe in hand. Grudinin has a real program on how to make our country strong and prosperous. If all the people understood this, tearing off a spellbound gaze from the zombies, we would succeed. Then the poor and weak countries now - the former republics of the USSR - would themselves be asked to be part of a great and powerful country, as has already been done many times in history. And Grudinin also talked about this, but many did not hear it, they were more interested in listening to intriguing stories with mythical shareholders and accounts. We missed the chance that comes once a century - to peacefully carry out a system change. Now it’s only through blood and great upheavals, when it will reach everyone that what really happens in our country.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 27 March 2018 12: 18
                      0
                      It happens, you are sure that you are right, but the majority do not understand you!
                      I always ask myself a question, or maybe I'm wrong? You need to start with yourself, and try to convince everyone and everyone of their rightness, it ... is very doubtful and very rarely gives a positive result.
                      For almost any phenomenon, process, there is a scientifically based explanation and laws! We do not live in the forest, in our world much has already been explained and laid out on the shelves. Want to prove your point, learn to do the right thing justified. Emotions can take only a small part of a particularly impressionable and unbalanced population.
                      Learn, help ... science!
                  3. Setrac
                    Setrac 27 March 2018 20: 46
                    +1
                    Quote: rocket757
                    according to contemporaries, the party leadership of the CITY of HERO LENINGRAD really ate at a lower standard than combat aviation pilots

                    We all perfectly know the methods of Western liberal propaganda, justify why you cited this particular example, it seems to me that you are a mishandled Cossack.
                    Quote: rocket757
                    I will think. that the bulk of the party workers, the country's leadership did not "eat" their people!

                    The bulk, and now does not eat anyone, the bulk does not have villas, yachts and real estate abroad.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 28 March 2018 09: 29
                      +1
                      We all perfectly know the methods of Western liberal propaganda, justify why you cited this particular example, it seems to me that you are a mishandled Cossack.
                      It was in Leningrad that I was lucky to work with people who were participants in those events! I BELIEVE IT!
                      The bulk and now does not eat anyone, the bulk does not have villas, yachts and real estate abroad ..
                      We discussed the party leadership of the period of the USSR. For now, a separate conversation.
                      1. Setrac
                        Setrac 28 March 2018 21: 08
                        +2
                        Quote: rocket757
                        It was in Leningrad that I was lucky to work with people who were participants in those events! I BELIEVE IT!

                        And it’s wonderful, and I believe them too. But after all, the siege of Leningrad is not at all an ordinary occurrence and it is simply insulting to refer to it. You just took and equated those people who survived the blockade of Leningrad with those who plundered and destroyed the USSR, just took and spat in the face of veterans.
            2. Nix1986
              Nix1986 26 March 2018 22: 30
              +4
              Compared to Yeltsin, the Harlem nigga will be the light of civilization, it’s enough just not to thump every day. They tried to compare GDP with Roosevelt or Stalin, here ...
            3. Alber
              Alber 28 March 2018 21: 13
              +5
              Quote: Natalia777
              Yes, you at least crack now from anger. Vladimir Putin has already made Russia different. It is enough to compare with Russia that Putin adopted about Yeltsin in 2000 and what Russia is now. Changes for the better have occurred global. For 6 years, Russia can be changed only within the framework of real opportunities. Putin has no magic wand to wave and became Paradise on earth.

              What is 6 years old?
              He has been leading since 2000 ...
              He should already "dig the earth" like an excavator!
              Transplant thousands of scum and thieves, restore industry ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 28 March 2018 22: 30
                +1
                Albert, this is a bot, a stupid repeat of something from someone!
                The conversation will not work, the record, do not stop!
        3. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 26 March 2018 12: 09
          +13
          Quote: rocket757
          This kind of chimera turns out ... chimeras do not live long, again everything will start to fall apart!

          Much faster than we think.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 March 2018 13: 24
            +6
            I’m not even thinking, I’m not going to suppose that society is ready for various disasters.
            There are citizens, an electorate ... a civil society, there is no one. Who will resist the next redistribution, seizure of power?
            All hope for the "good king"! Well, the old rake, the bumps on the forehead can not be counted ... a strong forehead, impenetrable! Again I have to do it, survive everything !!!
            1. Anti-Corr.
              Anti-Corr. 26 March 2018 23: 00
              +4
              Quote: rocket757
              There are citizens, an electorate ... a civil society, there is no one. Who will resist the next redistribution, seizure of power?

              It is necessary to start all over again, how many Bolsheviks were in February of the 17th year and it doesn’t matter that we are scattered across different “branches”, what we want is important. Now it has become obvious that the class of exploiters not only of natural resources, but also of the masses leads us to a big war, and I don’t want to die at all as biomaterial.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 27 March 2018 09: 37
                +3
                I have always said that the experience of ancestors is forgotten, abandoned. at this utter nonsense! They inspire us that there is nothing good there, that there is nothing but outdated, unnecessary stuff!
                This is a focused lie! They are afraid of our unification! The collective will, and even the experience of the ancestors to use EVERYTHING, LAFA THEIR END!
      2. Semen1972
        Semen1972 26 March 2018 10: 52
        +8
        Quote: NordUral
        Not only fools, but also smart people. They managed to split the Communist Party and establish sabotage of joint work and Grudinin.

        Who split the Communist Party ... that the Communists are so weak, then the USSR slept through, then their voices steal, then the parties split ... in nature the weakest must die out if the liberals are stronger, if you can’t split EdRo .. then for such a party I will never vote. You have liberals against whom the whole country has always robbed and steal you .. weaklings, dissolve ... Even a 30-year-old boy could understand your place in politics))) Grudininsky mustache showed your essence !!!
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          1. Click
            Click 26 March 2018 13: 06
            +3
            The mustachioed, he is the beardless one, did his job! He was needed only for the illusion of choice, no more! yes
            1. Natalia777
              Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 32
              +2
              Not really yours. The mustachioe hopes to slip into a high position behind a sheepskin painted red. Grudkin and those puppeteers who promoted him from the Communist Party act with a distant eye - that Grudkin will win the 2014 elections after working for 6 years as the governor of the Moscow Region. And Zyuganov in this matter earned a couple of million bucks by selling the use of the Communist Party brand to Grudkin. Actually, Zyuganov is a false communist. He took a place so that real communists would not take him.
              1. Click
                Click 26 March 2018 19: 57
                +2
                He will slip through! And your idol will call him! wink And Sobchak will slip through! You know why, because it's ONE team! yes
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 26 March 2018 21: 41
                  +2
                  Everything is correct. They are not enemies of the current system of power, they are its creation.
                  Temporary differences for the placement of prizes, and so, in principle, a complete consensus of interests!
                2. Alber
                  Alber 29 March 2018 07: 20
                  0
                  Quote: Click
                  He will slip through! And your idol will call him! wink And Sobchak will slip through! You know why, because it's ONE team! yes

                  Definitely one. Colleagues. Brigade
                  1. Schima68
                    Schima68 29 March 2018 16: 17
                    0
                    Everything is right, Hitler, Poroshenko, Medvedev, half-breed Grudinin, under one command
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 29 March 2018 19: 35
                      0
                      Mixed up? The question of the adequacy of the writer ... the answer is doubtful.
                      The desire to disappear will be deleted anyway.
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 26 March 2018 13: 14
            +3
            Quite a decent political school has been preserved; there are scientists who have an understandable analysis for the degradation of modern associations, who seem to be followers of the Communist Party!
            Only as always, the leaders of these parties are ready to fight only for themselves in power! However, like many other leaders!
            Therefore, I say that we, who are nostalgic for the power of the people, will not vote for these. They do not express our interests, and they do not want to work on their mistakes!
            So we are a loser for a long time and .... we will see.
          3. RL
            RL 26 March 2018 15: 16
            +3
            I saw your profile picture. We, the officers who painted helmets in Afghanistan, stupidly, emblem 36. Waffen-Grenadier Division der SS, was expelled from the army with shame and without retirement. You seem to be in fashion SSovtsy. You still are going to teach Kogov? Pinocchio - teach your spiders.
          4. GUSAR
            GUSAR 26 March 2018 19: 15
            +2
            Hey, dear man, you would have changed your profile, or else, under the "Dirlivanger" logo, somehow ... I don’t even know ...
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 26 March 2018 13: 17
          +2
          Suppose they showed the essence of the people who saddled the legacy of the Communist Party. They give an idea that the founders of the founders did not support, just a chatter! Because they are not dangerous to the authorities for a long time! We at least have nothing to expect from the current communists, leaders!
          1. Natalia777
            Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 37
            0
            The power represented by V.V. Putin and his team is interested in an independent and strong Russia and understands that for this it is necessary to build a social state. And the remaining parties are working to destroy Russia, including the Communist Party, which is only hiding behind the communist flag, and itself, as a political courtesan, is sold 100% to the pro-Western Grudkin and sold at least to the devil.
            1. Alber
              Alber 26 March 2018 16: 55
              +5
              Quote: Natalia777
              The government represented by Vladimir Putin and his team is interested in an independent and strong Russia and understands that for this it is necessary to build a social state


              “Timur” seems to be acting correctly, but his whole team looks more like Kvakinskaya on the results ... Not?
      3. Alber
        Alber 26 March 2018 14: 23
        +2
        Quote: NordUral
        Not only fools, but also smart people. They managed to split the Communist Party and establish sabotage of joint work and Grudinin.

        Suraikin is a Kremlin creature
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 26 March 2018 15: 07
          +1
          Suraikin ... well, such, not convincing, there is no charisma, he will not lead the masses behind him.
          We can not them, but not dangerous to them.
      4. Alber
        Alber 26 March 2018 14: 24
        +2
        Quote: NordUral
        Not only fools, but also smart people. They managed to split the Communist Party and establish sabotage of joint work and Grudinin.

        Suraikin is a Kremlin creature
    5. meandr51
      meandr51 26 March 2018 13: 40
      +3
      You underestimate them. But I remember how these enemies discredited socialist ideas in the same way, bringing them almost to the point of absurdity.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 March 2018 13: 56
        +10
        Unfortunately, people who can really tell what the Power of the Soviets is is very aged. They will leave, and then only books will remain, scientific works will burn everything and there is no one to get this invaluable knowledge from.
        The authorities are capitalists, they will destroy this knowledge by all means!
        Well, you see, identity is not eternal. I will explain, I will teach my descendants, who else will take care of the other ....
        Then people will dream, speak for justice and all that jazz, but, alas, there is no scientific basis, knowledge. Wandering again in the dark.
        I’m not for the direct restoration of the USSR, it’s just all the good that was then, this knowledge must be preserved! After all, come in handy!
    6. Natalia777
      Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 05
      +1
      I agree with the author. The State Department is sending billions of dollars to discredit authorities in Russia and LDN. I go to various resources a lot and see that paid state-owned murderers are working. But other citizens see it too.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 March 2018 15: 05
        +1
        Our authorities may not give away billions, but the Murziks still contain ... such cheap, brainless .... trifle!
        1. Sasha_Sar
          Sasha_Sar 27 March 2018 10: 36
          +2
          Funds are allocated, only "their own" and they "saw", so this makes them sick from their stupidity.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 27 March 2018 12: 30
            +2
            It’s easier for us, theoretically, but to butt with this brainless audience, not to respect ourselves. The main thing is not to stupid yourself without a real fight!
            Still angry, are they people completely for a sucker ... are they holding stupid? Like, they will disperse us very clever and active \ will be pushed back, and then the people will no one balamutit?
            I hint in plain text - there is no more convincing factor than an empty refrigerator and huge bills for everything and everything! Anyone thus stimulated. there will be a "truth \ guilty" to seek and not the fact that the authorities will be able to lead this storm, suppress. send them in the direction they need!
            We were blamed here that we are rebelling like, we are calling for chaos! We are sane people, we are ready to conduct a dialogue on garlic. Bun can arise not from our actions, but from ours and the authorities of inaction!
    7. The centurion
      The centurion 26 March 2018 17: 05
      +3
      Quote: Fox
      only it is not the machinations of the State Department, and their fools are trying

      There was even a special term "Duropatriots". They are just darkness.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 March 2018 21: 51
        0
        Another gift for any leader is "initiative fools" .... a familiar topic.
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 26 March 2018 23: 46
        +2
        Quote: Centurion
        There was even a special term "Duropatriots". They are just darkness.

        For the first time I hear such a term, apparently the US State Department has sent you new manuals.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 27 March 2018 12: 32
          +2
          It makes no difference, the real meaning of the word PATRIOT cannot be vulgarized by anyone, and people who are walking along this difficult path have steadily learned to hold blows from many directions!
  2. Baloo
    Baloo 26 March 2018 06: 50
    +5
    and the State Department spent 20 million dollars on the "support" of our elections in vain. I am glad that the fifth and other columns did not pass.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 26 March 2018 07: 27
      +31
      the fifth and other columns did not pass.
      , and who do you think in these columns? The fifth column won.
      1. Natalia777
        Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 42
        0
        Are you raving The fifth column dreams of surrendering Russia to the West along with giblets. Judging by how the West is now biting its elbows and poisoning against Russia and Vladimir Putin, the fifth pro-Western column has long been sitting in a puddle. And the pro-Russian team is in power.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 26 March 2018 09: 53
      +31
      Just the fifth column won. This is the so-called "our" power. The patriots and the people lost, though this has not yet reached many. But organized crime groups will soon show their teeth, their hands are now untied with such results.
      1. freddyk
        freddyk 26 March 2018 10: 21
        +14
        Lost patrilites and people


        Patriots in the country 11%, how can they not lose. And our people are glad to be deceived, there is still something to eat, and okay.
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 26 March 2018 11: 04
          +16
          Quote: freddyk
          Patriots in the country 11%, how can they not lose. And our people are glad to be deceived, there is still something to eat, and okay.

          With such patriots and enemies do not need
          1. freddyk
            freddyk 26 March 2018 11: 28
            +16
            And the enemy, meanwhile, is slowly settling in Primorye and Transbaikalia
          2. NordUral
            NordUral 26 March 2018 12: 08
            +4
            No matter how you relate to Gozman, he often tells the holy truth. It’s a pity, smart man, but he involuntarily works for the power of the liberals.
            1. Semen1972
              Semen1972 26 March 2018 12: 29
              +3
              Quote: NordUral
              It’s a pity, smart man, but he involuntarily works for the power of the liberals.

              The people elected this power, better than the populists, who could not save the country, we will not give them a second chance !!!
            2. Alber
              Alber 26 March 2018 14: 32
              +4
              Quote: NordUral
              No matter how you relate to Gozman, he often tells the holy truth. It’s a pity, smart man, but he involuntarily works for the power of the liberals.


              Smart does not mean decent! As you look at the power all "talents" and these abilities are used only to the detriment of the Russian people ...
              He is a Zionist and works in the interests of Zionism to destroy Russia.
            3. Natalia777
              Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 45
              0
              So let him go to seek the truth for his nation. And the Russians voted for V.V. Putin.
          3. Alber
            Alber 26 March 2018 14: 27
            +3
            Quote: Ascetic
            Quote: freddyk
            Patriots in the country 11%, how can they not lose. And our people are glad to be deceived, there is still something to eat, and okay.

            With such patriots and enemies do not need

            )) Kaka grandma is smart!
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 26 March 2018 10: 22
        +6
        We just could not win! Where are these we? Who brings such an idea, and most importantly, actually proves that we still exist, and if there are many more of us, we will win?
        You can work on old slogans, but refer to old affairs ??? .... so it’s almost impossible to get people's trust, and even the desire to unite TOGETHER to engender in people, I don’t know what and how to do. One thing is clear, you need to work, work, work.
        1. V. Salama
          V. Salama 26 March 2018 21: 34
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          We just could not win! Where are these we? Who brings such an idea, and most importantly, proves in practice, ......, and even the desire to unite TOGETHER to engender in people, I don’t know what and how to do it. One thing is clear, you need to work, work, work.

          People have always united to defend their interests on the grounds of consanguinity, common language, territory of residence ... In modern society, due to the deepening of the system of social division of labor and the duration of the formation of class consciousness, everything is much more complicated. In addition, a person is inclined not to receive the required result of his work because of an unconscious distortion of his life. In this case, it will be essential - "following the goals that do not correspond to their needs due to the inability (unwillingness) to comprehend them."
          In short, before you build something (... "work, work ..."), you need to have a project (drawing) of what we need. Not only that, for this it is necessary to think, think and think, it is also necessary for everyone to realize that what we will build, it is necessary for our survival with the required quality. And to comprehend this, scientific knowledge and a scientific analysis of historical experience are needed. There will be problems with this, both objective and subjective. However, the following should be clear: you need to study, study, study. And to work ... An ancient Chinese proverb says: "Anyone who does not understand the meaning will expend the efforts of nine bulls and will not get the desired result."
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 March 2018 23: 19
            +1
            Is there only a man of labor and an antagonist to him who assigns the results of his labor?
            I am a working man, a working man .... can list the numbers of my projects and students from different countries.
            The capitalist is against the working class, a thin layer does not play a role, because it always joins one of the sides of the confrontation ... or it will simply be stopped in the struggle! So it was, is and will be ... how long, I can not guess.
      3. Semen1972
        Semen1972 26 March 2018 10: 54
        +8
        Quote: NordUral
        Just the fifth column and won

        Wow, how about 76% of Russians ... Comrade-would be dumped somewhere .. to build communism in Cuba, there is your place. 30 year old boy your rating with a click of your finger indicated .. shave your mustache now!
        1. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 26 March 2018 11: 04
          +16
          Quote: Semen1972
          Wow, how about 76% of Russians ...

          You exaggerate, only 50%, and that’s with all the "tightness", but in reality it’s 40-43 percent, so you don’t have to drive the "mustachioed" snowstorm, as your leader says.
          1. lwxx
            lwxx 26 March 2018 11: 33
            +3
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            Quote: Semen1972
            Wow, how about 76% of Russians ...

            You exaggerate, only 50%, and that’s with all the "tightness", but in reality it’s 40-43 percent, so you don’t have to drive the "mustachioed" snowstorm, as your leader says.

            I did not vote for GDP, but I chose it, and he is our leader for the next 6 years. And if you have other leaders, then change the flag, and not only on the site. Speaking of babies, their solvency was shown at a press conference when they asked the question: what are you planning for the future? Uncle Zu did not give him an answer, abruptly moving his elbow and no need to tell in words! Are these your leaders?
            1. Anti-Corr.
              Anti-Corr. 26 March 2018 11: 55
              +11
              Quote: lwxx
              here at a press conference his solvency was shown, when asked: what are you planning for the future? Uncle Zu did not give him an answer, abruptly moving his elbow and no need to tell in words! Are these your leaders?

              Quote: lwxx
              I did not vote for GDP, but chose it

              Do you have any thoughts or motor skills ahead? About the “elections” it was clear back in 1999, and then the threshold of turnout and the candidate “against all” was canceled, which is not clear?
              There is such an anecdote, two partisans are being taken to execution, one says let's run away, and the second, and suddenly it will be worse.
            2. V. Salama
              V. Salama 26 March 2018 22: 10
              0
              Quote: lwxx

              I did not vote for GDP, but I chose it, and he is our leader for the next 6 years. And if you have other leaders, then change the flag, and not only on the site. Speaking of babies, their solvency was shown at a press conference when they asked the question: what are you planning for the future? Uncle Zu did not give him an answer, abruptly moving his elbow and no need to tell in words! Are these your leaders?

              What a strange argument.
              Dictionary S.I.Ozhegova: Leader - 1. Head, leader of a political party, social and political organization.
              If GDP is your leader, then the flag is in your hands, the rest may have other preferences. Do we have an opposition banned? Another thing is that the GDP is the head of state, so where are we going from the ship? For example, it’s obvious to me that the flag needs to be changed for you, as you advise, and not only on the site. As the article states here, liberalism rules in our government (the media is the fourth government), and the power of state institutions is at the disposal of GDP, but liberalism continues to rule the ball, and not only in the media.
              About the viability of "babies" they themselves did not understand what to write. It is not in his interests in this situation (you don’t even understand which one) to talk about your plans, especially since he is a leader, not a king, but you don’t seem to understand this. If you want to cheat a person, then at least give a clear argument or is this a problem too?
            3. Vittt
              Vittt 27 March 2018 21: 38
              0
              "I did not vote for GDP, but he is our leader." Are you good (spelled correctly)?
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 28 March 2018 09: 51
                0
                I also did not vote for No. 1.
                I accept the choice of my people and yes, the GDP is again the president of my country!
                We will criticize, we will defend the interests of the US, we will do everything to make the country stronger under the leadership of the GDP ... the rest is all not for the second time, everything naf!
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 26 March 2018 11: 39
            +7
            With No. 1, everything is clear, he has a “chimera” program, but if you want everything you can find for everyone! The question of the implementation of that program is dubious, perhaps in pieces, that they will do something for someone, but it will still be a "capitalist paradise" for the elite. In short, the prospects are already vague, but nothing pleasant is provided for a person to work there!
            There is no need to consider other candidates. The figures are doubtful, have not shown themselves to be important, and the programs here cannot be understood at all. Most importantly, the real things that people should pay attention to, within the country, are not net! A lot of chatter and all.
            There was nothing for us to choose, we lost even before we went to the polls!
            The only thing that could at least somehow “cheer up” the power elite if the votes that had fallen into their piggy bank flowed to other candidates. The real hint is that we will certainly choose you, but there are VERY MUCH claims to power!
          3. Semen1972
            Semen1972 26 March 2018 12: 21
            +3
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            You exaggerate, only 50% and this is with all the "tightness", but in reality 40-43 percent,

            I do not observe filing from Grudinin or other lawsuits. Maybe you will serve ..
            Why so 40%? maybe 10 ... or 2%. You take the numbers from the ceiling ... in Russian this is ... a balobol called.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 22: 22
              +4
              Quote: Semen1972
              in Russian it is .. balobol called

              It's just a full-time, ahem, popagandist. Of the former politicians, apparently.
          4. Natalia777
            Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 48
            0
            Not really yours. Vladimir Putin out of competition. Liberastov - on the soap. The mummers of the communes of Grudinin and Zyuganov - also on the soap.
            1. free
              free 26 March 2018 18: 13
              +7
              Quote: Natalia777
              Not really yours. Vladimir Putin out of competition. Liberastov - on the soap. The mummers of the communes of Grudinin and Zyuganov - also on the soap.

              So maybe we’ll also get rid of stupid people at the same time?
              1. V. Salama
                V. Salama 26 March 2018 22: 17
                +2
                Quote: free
                Quote: Natalia777
                Not really yours. Vladimir Putin out of competition. Liberastov - on the soap. The mummers of the communes of Grudinin and Zyuganov - also on the soap.

                So maybe we’ll also get rid of stupid people at the same time?

                Impossible! It so happened historically that this is our main and inexhaustible resource. For the time being, this should be treated as a natural phenomenon.
            2. Alf
              Alf 26 March 2018 21: 08
              +7
              Quote: Natalia777
              Not really yours. Vladimir Putin out of competition. Liberastov - on the soap. The mummers of the communes of Grudinin and Zyuganov - also on the soap.

              Yes, you finally calm down. Do you have a spring aggravation that you are so licking Putin? Or did the advance come?
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 26 March 2018 21: 59
                +4
                Vasily, this is a novobotik who does not work for millions of State Deputies, but for his native “wooden” ones! Clings to everyone and everything! Not interesting, not pros, so shallow.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 26 March 2018 22: 04
                  +3
                  You are right, Winner! He is already sick. Climbing into all holes, as if smeared with Vaseline.
                  1. Anti-Corr.
                    Anti-Corr. 26 March 2018 22: 22
                    +3
                    Do you have a spring aggravation that you are so licking Putin? Or did the advance come? [/ Quote]
                    With their advance payment, we all received a 6-year-old Tryndo-Stabilizer.[quote = alpha]
                  2. rocket757
                    rocket757 26 March 2018 23: 39
                    +1
                    Oh, where are my 17 years old ??? I would have risked the role of the Carer, Try it on myself ... and now, where is my warm corner and useful kefir.
                    It remains only to butt with the boots, but to grumble for our power unreasonable!
                    However, this somewhat accelerates the blood! And that’s good!
                    Okay, the role of the next Gapon is now beyond our means, we will grumble quietly.
                2. Anti-Corr.
                  Anti-Corr. 26 March 2018 22: 10
                  +7
                  Quote: rocket757
                  it’s a novobotik who works not for millions of State Departments, but for his native “wooden” ones! Clings to everyone and everything! Not interesting, not pros, so shallow.

                  Duc how many of them have become! belay I do not understand what this electorate needs? Airplanes are falling, children are being poisoned in Volokolamsk and harnessed in Kemerovo, have you become overwhelmed by fencing? Or did you really break the duroscope with vodka?! And when the trouble knocks on your "hut", what will the Imperials do?
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 26 March 2018 22: 58
                    +1
                    The neighbor got drunk out of the window, stole a car from another, scored a third for work, the fourth incorrectly operated, the fifth bank robbed - Putin is all to blame.
                    1. Sasha_Sar
                      Sasha_Sar 27 March 2018 11: 11
                      +3
                      And who is to blame for the appointment of Mr. Vorobyov as "governor" in the suburbs? No need to replace the "system" with household appliances.
                  2. rocket757
                    rocket757 26 March 2018 23: 54
                    +4
                    I listened about the "garbage rebellion", this is the first attempt after the truckers to defend their right to LIFE and HEALTH. People just have an edge, it's boiling!
                    Authorities, the official press is silent! And the eccentric in essence ECHO, that gives something right this time!
                    And again, initiative fools scored !!! Officials, local melkoten, and overshoot excessively !!!
                    I’m already trying to shout to people how much our strength is when we TOGETHER !!!
                    The authorities will not be able to dismiss our needs now, the country's situation may become very difficult! I’m not for rocking the boat, but what if the authorities don’t hear us and don’t want to give us our basic rights?
                    From above, you can’t keep track of everything, but what is happening in many places is simply a disaster, and perhaps lawlessness!
                    We must unite and responsibly approach the issue of observing our obligations, but we must also carefully monitor the implementation of our rights!
                    These are dreams, dreams! In principle, I don’t want anything special and illegal!
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 26 March 2018 11: 24
          +8
          Quote: Semen1972
          Wow, how about 76% of Russians ... Comrade-would be dumped somewhere .. to build communism in Cuba, there is your place. 30 year old boy your rating with a click of your finger indicated .. shave your mustache now!

          Communism is their screen, they deftly play on leftist ideas and the request for social justice. Now a real communist must support real patriots
          Khodorkovsky, Mamut, Agalarov and Malofeev
          One of the election results was a rehearsal of a patriotic maidan, under the guise of which oligarchic revenge is planned in the country ..
          1. Snakebyte
            Snakebyte 26 March 2018 12: 27
            +11
            Quote: Ascetic
            One of the election results was a rehearsal of a patriotic maidan, under the guise of which oligarchic revenge is planned in the country ..

            Am I missing something and the oligarchs are no longer running the race in Russia? All of these Potanins, Prokhorovs and others fled abroad or went to prison?
            1. Natalia777
              Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 51
              0
              You're right. Many oligarchs and corrupt officials fled, many sat down. Others are on the way. Take an interest in landing statistics. Marvel Looks like Stalin is back.
              1. Snakebyte
                Snakebyte 26 March 2018 14: 53
                +9
                Fled and sat down units. The rest are quite living. The number of dollar billionaires in Russia doubled in a year.
              2. free
                free 26 March 2018 18: 14
                +4
                Quote: Natalia777
                You're right. Many oligarchs and corrupt officials fled, many sat down. Others are on the way. Take an interest in landing statistics. Marvel Looks like Stalin is back.

                Examples in the studio! Confirm your words with numbers and surnames.
              3. Alf
                Alf 26 March 2018 21: 10
                +5
                Quote: Natalia777
                Many oligarchs and corrupt officials fled, many sat down. Others are on the way.

                Well, frankly, you don’t need to lie, they can catch a tongue. Or you, as Yusovites, we have evidence, but they are secret and we will not show them to you?
              4. Sasha_Sar
                Sasha_Sar 27 March 2018 11: 14
                +2
                Those who sat on the “throne” began to pretend, and whoever pays tithes became a socially responsible business ...
          2. V. Salama
            V. Salama 26 March 2018 22: 33
            +1
            Quote: Ascetic

            Communism is their screen, they deftly play on leftist ideas and the request for social justice. Now a real communist must support real patriots
            Khodorkovsky, Mamut, Agalarov and Malofeev
            One of the election results was a rehearsal of a patriotic maidan, under the guise of which oligarchic revenge is planned in the country ..

            Variability is one of the fundamental properties of the world. Everything changes, but you are always surprised when this happens before your eyes. Or time flies so fast, downhill, as they say. I have always considered you a master of analysis and a bearer of encyclopedic knowledge, but it was as if you had not written this post. Perhaps they were carried away by the context, but I didn’t understand it.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 22: 41
              +5
              Quote: V. Salama
              I don’t understand him

              Yes, all of you understood ... there is nothing "not to understand", everything is like twice two.
              You simply, by your sweet habit, are trying to chat about the gist of the discussion.
              And the essence is simple, like five cents:
              Quote: Ascetic
              One of the election results was a rehearsal of a patriotic maidan, under the guise of which oligarchic revenge is planned in the country

              And it really is very much like the truth.
              1. V. Salama
                V. Salama 27 March 2018 19: 41
                0
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                ...
                And the essence is simple, like five cents:
                Quote: Ascetic
                One of the election results was a rehearsal of a patriotic maidan, under the guise of which oligarchic revenge is planned in the country

                And it really is very much like the truth.

                Following your logic: a different election result would be a successful rehearsal of a patriotic Maidan, under the guise of which an oligarchic revenge is planned (in this case, realized). "And it really is very much like the truth." ???
                I can only understand what kind of social group such assessments are made from, and I do not agree with the assessment itself. That is, I really would not have thought of such a thing, I really do not understand this. This is how one should be afraid of threats to one’s well-being in order to imagine this, and completely note the necessary socio-economic and political transformations. By the way, oligarchic “revenge” is much more convenient to do with completely different technologies.
        3. freddyk
          freddyk 26 March 2018 11: 26
          +17
          Quote: Semen1972
          Wow, how about 76% of Russians


          Well, with 76%, the CEC went too far. Deliberately or not, the question. And the fifth column has been ruling since 1991, and the current government is its direct successor. So that's right rocket757 said.
          1. Semen1972
            Semen1972 26 March 2018 12: 26
            +2
            Quote: freddyk
            Well, with 76%, the CEC went too far. Deliberately or not, the question. And the fifth column has been ruling since 1991, and the current government is its direct successor. So that's right rocket757 said.

            This is which side of the barricade to watch. The people consider you the fifth column. Arat, down with the rich, we will revise the results of privatization, we will arrange the USSR, this is the fifth column, since there is a clear populism with the aim of joining the feeding trough.
            And about 76% .. Where do you get the reverse data from? Why there are no complaints to the courts .. Even the West is not yelling about this .. but scratching with the tongue .. no need. Personally, I have ALL my acquaintances for Putin, all with one wording: “Who, Saobchak or something”, under this slogan everyone voted for Putin .. and after the fight they don’t wave their fists. No one forbade the appointment of observers. But there are no complaints from Grudinin, where is his statement that Putin stole everything ????
            1. Click
              Click 26 March 2018 12: 46
              +7
              The illusion of choice .. yes surrounded himself with "fools" to make them appear smarter against their background! Project it to the polls. lol
            2. Z_G_R
              Z_G_R 26 March 2018 15: 00
              +7
              and it’s not profitable for the West to yell at this topic)) If the pro-Westerners are swept out of the Kremlin and a nationally oriented government is planted, then it will only get worse. In the meantime, our oligarchs are driving resources west and do nothing for the country, they are all happy. Better Putin and the Russian Trade Federation than the USSR. =)
          2. Natalia777
            Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 52
            +1
            Stop lying. The fifth column would have surrendered Russia to the West long ago. And we see a perfectly inversely proportional picture.
        4. NordUral
          NordUral 26 March 2018 12: 19
          +15
          I will not argue with you. You are employed. Screen indicates this.


          I won’t bring down anywhere, my country, my house is here. Like building communism, communism is a utopia, an unattainable dream of idealists.
          Enough social democracy in the country without an oligarchic and official crook.
          And as for the little boy, you’re right at the point - a click, and the CEO has 76,6% election, as if by magic they painted, as they lowered Grudinin's rating.
          1. Click
            Click 26 March 2018 12: 43
            +9
            I already wrote about this system, the system is closed, only the developer has access ... there at least as much as you can draw yes but for some reason, patriots passed this fact .. winked
            1. Natalia777
              Natalia777 26 March 2018 14: 54
              +1
              Can you see well from Washington? Eye like an eagle?
              1. Click
                Click 26 March 2018 15: 33
                +2
                Your surname is not Zakharov’s case .. lol
              2. Click
                Click 26 March 2018 16: 34
                +7
                But not your compatriot, two years ago, a child was brutally murdered and screamed in Moscow ... censorship ... And Putin's media wrote off everything to madness negative and yesterday in the final news, they chatted that she belonged to censorship ... stop why drown? You’re afraid the flow of your gasters will be blocked, now they feel at ease here, they say about the Russians that they want, but I can’t call them by their proper names! That is why I am against the current government!
          2. Semen1972
            Semen1972 26 March 2018 14: 04
            +1
            Quote: NordUral
            You are employed. Screen indicates this.

            Maybe tell me whom? Who will pay for posts on this forum that no one reads?
            Quote: NordUral
            And as for the little boy, you’re right at the point - a click, and the CEO has 76,6% election, as if by magic they painted, as they lowered Grudinin's rating.

            Yes, yes, of course, but are there any facts? What observer did not go? You are lying, lying openly. In your opinion, everything was fine-tuned. Well, but the people didn’t come out .. but how so, they robbed everyone, but the people are sitting? Do not remember the swamp, when really Churov was weird? But people do not like it, so the borders are open. Or reconcile and live with the power that the people of Russia want.
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 26 March 2018 15: 18
              +8
              on this forum that no one reads?
              Firstly, what are you doing on a forum that supposedly no one reads?
              Secondly, they read and not only those on the sofas ...
              1. Semen1972
                Semen1972 26 March 2018 15: 41
                +2
                Quote: Gardamir
                Secondly, they read and not only those on the sofas ...

                Who else? Here there are continuous radicals, here are points of view that you can’t say on TV and you can’t pronounce them at the rally .. You can say, it’s possible for various populists, extremists, communists and other “ists” to breathe. For which I love this forum. Plus interesting articles about technology.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 26 March 2018 21: 12
                  +3
                  Quote: Semen1972
                  An outlet, one might say, for various populists, extremists, communists and other "ists." For which I love this forum.

                  And then who are you?
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 26 March 2018 22: 43
                    +4
                    Let's look at the works of the classics. They wrote for a long time and their sources were even more ancient!
                    There is only one irreconcilable confrontation - people of labor, creators, and against them those who select the result of their work in one way or another!
                    The working people are against dependent capitalists. Nothing has changed over the past centuries; the forms of enslavement by us have become more sophisticated. but essentially the same thing.
                    Our necks have “saddled” our homegrown fat belly, and the foreign ones just want to squeeze them from that place! Since both greedy are immeasurable, they could not agree on all this fuss with the fifth column, this is a squabble of our support groups and foreign ones !!! Both of us will be sneezed, since the essence of their ugly ugly one is such that they want to decide for us whom we will support!
                    Therefore, our wagging at the moment is so ... chimeric. And they don’t want to lose us, it’s understandable why, they themselves want a bun with caviar right now, because they are greedy and do not want to assess the danger to the country, the people that roll over the hill. Not a smart act, not some kind of finishing touch. Because, because of the hillock, such "sharks" are a rod, brrrr, and even with their pido - lib - derm concepts, this is finally bee-ee!
                    We are between two fires and we made a choice, many, not to our liking, but to our mind!
                    Better yours, not ah, than because of the hillock, absolutely be-eee!
                    By the way, I want state ... those who advocate for Western management. Do not have illusions, as soon as this fraternity would have got here, then it would have forgotten the social contract, which it is FORCED to observe in its own country! there is no one to restrain them, to control, and their essence is such that if a large profit is indicated, they will commit any crime for the sake of it. If there is no risk that you’ll be immediately turned off your head for your affairs!
                    1. freddyk
                      freddyk 27 March 2018 00: 41
                      +9
                      More about working people hi

                      1. free
                        free 27 March 2018 07: 38
                        +3
                        Quote: freddyk
                        More about working people hi


                        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good
                  2. Semen1972
                    Semen1972 27 March 2018 10: 56
                    0
                    Quote: Alf
                    And then who are you?

                    I’m a spectator, not an actor.
        5. badens1111
          badens1111 26 March 2018 22: 11
          +4
          Quote: Semen1972
          Wow, how about 76% of Russians.

          Well, at the expense of percentics, you were very mistaken ... this is the first, second, people are much more in the subject, they have a completely different view of the future of the country. Http://russnov.ru/mixail-xazin-putin-levyj
          -povorot-22-03-2018 /
          So you, the anti-Soviet, will have to keep quiet.
          1. Semen1972
            Semen1972 27 March 2018 17: 59
            0
            Quote: badens1111
            Well, at the expense of percentages, you were very wrong ... this is the first,

            Ahh ... I understand, you yourself counted all the votes ... then ... if it's not difficult .. publish the real data?
          2. Semen1972
            Semen1972 27 March 2018 18: 01
            0
            Quote: badens1111
            http://russnov.ru/mixail-xazin-putin-levyj
            -povorot-22-03-2018 / So you, the anti-advisers, will have to keep quiet.

            "Advisers" mustache shave today and complain "everything has been stolen from us." Sootelki erase, you are our deceived.
  3. Baloo
    Baloo 26 March 2018 06: 54
    +3
    The article is objective, realistic, but something in this dish is missing.
    And what about the calendar with Zakharchenko on the armor of an American tank? This is certainly a reason for long jokes.
    In place of Zakharchenko, I would buy out the entire circulation and burn it.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 March 2018 07: 16
    +4
    The main thing is how to head the article. Some read only headlines and draw conclusions from them. And who is trying to determine the individual or enemy case.
  5. You Vlad
    You Vlad 26 March 2018 07: 17
    +6
    A sensible article that makes you think, so people think from where their ears stick out.
    1. AA17
      AA17 26 March 2018 11: 05
      +9
      Dear Vladislav. I thought about it. An article applying for analytics should not contradict itself. "... at a time when Russian President Vladimir Putin quite rightly speaks of the upheaval, unconstitutional character of the current Kiev government, in almost all cases the Russian press uses the completely opposite terminology legitimizing the Kiev usurpers ...". This phrase is complete nonsense.
      Our Russian Authority itself helped to legitimize the Ukrainian Authority. And what about the media here? (The press cannot legitimize Power. Only another Power can legitimize it.)
      Let me recall how events unfolded: “... The Kremlin’s official website for the first time without reservations called Petro Poroshenko the President of Ukraine.” A telephone conversation took place between Vladimir Putin and President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko. P. Poroshenko informed V. Putin about his plan to resolve the situation in the south-east of Ukraine, "the president.rf said in a statement on the website. It also says that the Ukrainian leader congratulated Putin on Russia Day, which was celebrated on Thursday. The day before the press -secretary of the Russian leader Dmitry Peskov also called Poroshenko president. "The presidents discussed the development of bilateral relations," said Peskov. ... "(June 13, 2014)
      1. Natalia777
        Natalia777 26 March 2018 15: 01
        +3
        Why are you lying? Putin did not congratulate Poroshenko on his election victory. So did not recognize the legitimacy of Poroshenko. Putin said that he respects the choice of the Ukrainian people. Putin from the first day stated that there was an armed coup and seizure of power in Ukraine. And that the Western "colleagues" supported the coup. Putin and his government are acting in accordance with diplomatic standards. An open quarrel with Poroshenko will act only to the detriment of the Ukrainian people and Russia. The right strategy is Putin in Ukraine.
        1. AA17
          AA17 26 March 2018 16: 17
          +4
          Dear Natalia. Why scream? Can I have no emotions? Dear people gathered here. Exchange views. Everyone here is responsible for their words. Read again, carefully, my comment before blaming. Where did you see what I affirm: V.V. Putin congratulated Poroshenko? It was about the fact that the media can not legitimize the authorities. Power can be recognized only by another Power. (Minsk agreements - recognition of the legitimacy of the Ukrainian Government).
  6. Gardamir
    Gardamir 26 March 2018 07: 33
    +20
    I read the article in one go. Only the mournful mind began to draw their conclusions. It's not about the picture, the picture is an example. It is the fifth column that is hiding behind patriotism. And those who love their homeland, love everything and always!
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 07: 45
      +13
      Quote: Gardamir
      ... those who love their homeland, love everything and always!

      ... for sure.
      Only here, some "lovers of the motherland" have this kind of love ... strange, IMHO.
      They are all and everything is wrong. And this is their motto: “they’re not reporting me” (like that tiger - meat, yeah).
      Something tells me that if the Union were now, as it were, they would shout (with about the same intensity) about the lack of sausage.
      That's about as yes
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 26 March 2018 07: 52
        +28
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        only here some "lovers of the Motherland" have this kind of love ... strange, IMHO.

        I would say perverted. These "some" like absolutely all the policies of the head of state, especially financial. This is me about you Kitty, if you did not guess. wink
        P.S. One must always love the homeland, and the state only when it deserves it.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 08: 00
          +11
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          "some" like absolutely the entire policy of the head of state, especially financial

          Politics is the art of the possible - who said, do not remind?
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Homeland must always be loved, and the state only when it deserves it

          Yevtushenko to help you ... Osia yes
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 26 March 2018 08: 03
            +17
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            who said do not remind?

            What's the point, kitty? I do not set out to make a mess of VO with meaningless comments, unlike some. wink
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Yevtushenko to help you ... Osia

            Here is another example of high intelligence! laughing
            You should learn from AVT - although he mocks in his comments, his intellect can be traced in his gee-gee-gee.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 10: 04
              +10
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              What's the point

              Straight:
              The source is an interview with the “iron chancellor” of Prussia (later Germany) Otto Eduard Leopold Bismarck (1815-1898), which he gave (August 1867) to the Petersburg newspaper, published in German in St. Petersburg.
              In the original: Politics is the doctrine of the possible. Then “teaching” turned into “art”, and in this form the phrase became widely known.
              The meaning of the expression: politics (if it is an effective policy) deals only with reality, with achievable goals, and all that lies beyond the possible (real) is not politics, it is good wishes, empty declarations, etc.

              the main idea highlighted in red (otherwise you will get it all wrong again). And her (thoughts) ending -
              ... all that lies beyond the bounds of the possible (real) is not politics, it is good wishes, empty declarations, etc.
              - this is right for you. hang on the wall in a frame, and carefully read every time before writing foolish things somewhere ... Osia.
              1. BecmepH
                BecmepH 26 March 2018 11: 10
                +12
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                all that lies beyond the bounds of the possible (real) is not politics, it is good wishes, empty declarations, etc.

                Are you talking about May decrees?
                Think something will change? You also re-read Bismarck more often.
              2. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 26 March 2018 15: 27
                +10
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                all that lies beyond the bounds of the possible (real) is not politics, it is good wishes, empty declarations, etc.

                And what is Kitty beyond the possibilities? Progressive taxation scale? Or control over natural monopolies beyond real?
                You Kiss instead of quoting Bismarck, it would be better to remember Stalin - "There are no irreplaceable people" or "Every mistake has a first name, last name and middle name". And try on these phrases on Putin’s team. And about empty promises of GDP WesterN answered you.
            2. Natalia777
              Natalia777 26 March 2018 15: 05
              +1
              And you, Ingvar 72, have a bias. Just the Putin Government deserves the love and respect of the people. Remember what happened in the 90s. And compare with today. A lot has been achieved.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 26 March 2018 15: 18
                +12
                Quote: Natalia777
                bias is traced

                Yes, there is bias, and it is based on the facts of the surrender of the interests of the state by its first and second persons. A simple example - on the eve of the sale of a controlling stake in AvtoVAZ, a tranche of assistance in the amount of one and a half billion rubles was allocated to the plant. Highlighted the state. Before that, Putin came to the plant, vowing to help the plant (he didn’t lie! wink ) But then Medvedev met with the French delegation and they agreed to sell a controlling stake. Not only did the sale of the plant turn it into a banal screwdriver production, with a reduction of more than 50% of workers, they also presented the French with a tranche of 1.5 billion rubles.
                You know, it is strange to hear, after all of the above, a statement by the GDP about the need to boost production and import substitution. hi
                1. Click
                  Click 26 March 2018 15: 36
                  +3
                  He’s still going to do a superjet again! 85 billion allocated angry
              2. Gardamir
                Gardamir 26 March 2018 17: 12
                +8
                Remember what happened in the 90s
                Maybe this baby talk is enough? In the 90s, the country was rebuilt from socialist to capitalist. It was in the 90s that they pulled gas further to the West. And Putin got a turnkey capitalist country.
                Those who are seriously interested know that under Putin enterprises were shut down dozens of times more than under Yeltsin .. And under Yeltsin, their crooks stole, under Putin everything is sold abroad ..
              3. free
                free 26 March 2018 18: 19
                +7
                Quote: Natalia777
                And you, Ingvar 72, have a bias. Just the Putin Government deserves the love and respect of the people. Remember what happened in the 90s. And compare with today. A lot has been achieved.

                What exactly? What?
            3. Alber
              Alber 26 March 2018 15: 24
              +4
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              What's the point, kitty? I do not set out to make a mess of VO with meaningless comments, unlike some.

              ))) Good afternoon Ingvar! Also figured out the cat Manula (CatMannul)?
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 26 March 2018 15: 30
                +6
                Quote: Alber
                Also figured the cat Manula

                For a long time already! And even earlier, Gardamir calculated it, and pricked it, such as growing up from a colonel to a colonel general in a week. laughing Looks like Kisa's lobby is serious! bully
                1. Alber
                  Alber 26 March 2018 16: 28
                  +4
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Also figured the cat Manula
                  For a long time already! And even earlier, Gardamir calculated it, and pricked it, such as growing up from a colonel to a colonel general in a week. Looks like Kisa's lobby is serious!


                  Really the Shoigovsky department?
                  Or take higher, from the administration of the Guarantor? ...))
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 26 March 2018 19: 37
                    +3
                    Quote: Alber
                    Or take higher

                    Of course above - the administration of VO is not some kind of official from the retinue of the guarantor! laughing
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 26 March 2018 08: 01
        +30
        That's about as
        Perhaps you are right in something, but ... Then free medicine and education, nothing threatened the children on the streets. Residential buildings were built, not shopping centers. And most importantly, love for the motherland is not the same as love for the president. And we are told that we need to love presidential toys, the Olympics, some kind of M (obscene word) on football, Syria. And no one says about the marches of farmers from Krasnodar and the march of Truckers, garbage riots.
        There are claims, but not to the homeland, but to the authorities.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 March 2018 09: 07
          +2
          "Residential buildings were built, not shopping centers." Last year, 82 million square meters of housing were built in Russia.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 26 March 2018 10: 23
            +15
            built 82 million square meters of housing.
            a mortgage to help you. And how did people live in the Union without a mortgage?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 10: 38
              +7
              Quote: Gardamir
              how did people live in the Union without a mortgage?

              They lived normally.
              Only if now I can sell my apartment and leave ... wherever I want, in practice, either to donate or bequeath it ... and even to the society of anonymous alcoholics, then under the Union the apartment was state property. With all the consequences.
              This is so, just for example.
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 26 March 2018 10: 57
                +9
                Lived normally
                Srglasen. Parents bought an old house, built a palace in its place, then sold it and left for another area, got tired of it two years later, bought it, but didn’t like it, bought another. Freedom!
                And the apartments in the Union changed and also lived.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 11: 02
                  +7
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  Parents bought an old house, built a palace in its place, then sold it and left for another area, got tired of it two years later, bought it, but didn’t like it, bought another. Freedom!

                  Your parents lived curly, not everyone had such happiness.
                  Apparently, from here and you have such a longing, for the past ... no?
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  And the apartments in the Union changed and also lived

                  I even know how to do it. Everything is on the verge of a foul, and through one place. Well, you understand, probably yes
                  1. Gardamir
                    Gardamir 26 March 2018 12: 25
                    +9
                    Your parents lived curly, not everyone had such happiness
                    Well, father is a carpenter, mother is a nurse. Just worked. And now for what curly for example Shuvalov lives?
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 14: 26
                      +5
                      Quote: Gardamir
                      Well, father is a carpenter, mother is a nurse. Just worked

                      I'd like to believe. Especially with
                      Quote: Gardamir
                      bought an old house, built a palace in its place, then sold it left for another area, tired of it returned two years later, bought a house but didn’t like it, bought another

                      Fuck you. I probably lived in some other Union request
                      1. Gardamir
                        Gardamir 26 March 2018 15: 05
                        +8
                        To advise
                        Yes, the flag in your hands. My parents are from the villages. have been working all their lives. And we had everything. But you did not answer, for what joys do the Shuvalovs, Dvorkovichs, Medvedevs live well?
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                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 11: 34
                  +7
                  Quote: Vasyaga
                  Vasyaga

                  And someone here is excessively rude, no? wink
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                    1. Alber
                      Alber 26 March 2018 15: 30
                      +4
                      Quote: Vasyaga
                      Go, Mary, Ivanna cry ...


                      He will instruct the moderators out of habit to be banned ...
                    2. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 16: 20
                      +5
                      Quote: Vasyaga
                      Go, Mary, Ivanna cry ...

                      Yes it was necessary ... hysteria further ...
                2. free
                  free 26 March 2018 18: 21
                  +4
                  Quote: Vasyaga
                  Until you pay the mortgage, where the hell are you going, deer!
                  in 2007, you could buy an apartment for ten green pieces, in a year, if I’ve gotten into nishtyaki, I could save ... how much did the apartment cost in 2008? save for a year, clown! for three !?
                  Yes, because the mortgage slave is disenfranchised, and even silent!
                  He’ll sell it! A fool in the head has a parallel reality. Some schoolchildren along the way.

                  No, it works for nishtyaki.
              3. free
                free 26 March 2018 11: 57
                +14
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Quote: Gardamir
                how did people live in the Union without a mortgage?

                They lived normally.
                Only if now I can sell my apartment and leave ... wherever I want, in practice, either to donate or bequeath it ... and even to the society of anonymous alcoholics, then under the Union the apartment was state property. With all the consequences.
                This is so, just for example.

                Only you missed the sly one that in the Union the state would never take away your apartment or house. And now it will take it away and not look at your pieces of paper.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 12: 24
                  +7
                  Will you poke ... say to whom, or will you guess?
                  Quote: free
                  in the Union, the state would never take away your apartment or house

                  Correctly. Why choose what does not belong to me anyway?
                  Quote: free
                  And now he’ll take it and not look at your pieces of paper

                  But from now on - in more detail, if you can, of course ... so far no one has taken anything from me.
                  1. free
                    free 26 March 2018 18: 24
                    +5
                    I will be contacted as I see fit, nothing belongs to you, at all! Well, except that besides your pink snot! Well, what do you oppose to the state ??? you can of course run to the Hague, or where else is it just zero sense, zero sense!
                2. your1970
                  your1970 26 March 2018 12: 28
                  +3
                  Quote: free
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  how did people live in the Union without a mortgage?

                  They lived normally.
                  Only if now I can sell my apartment and leave ... wherever I want, in practice, either to donate or bequeath it ... and even to the society of anonymous alcoholics, then under the Union the apartment was state property. With all the consequences.
                  This is so, just for example.

                  Only you missed the sly one that in the Union the state would never take away your apartment or house. And now it will take it away and not look at your pieces of paper.
                  -address of the house -What exactly the STATE selected ???

                  And by the way, yes, in the USSR, not at all without asking(and why - the state needs !!!) the local population, during the construction of the "seas" - flooded several dozen villages ..
                  Housing was provided, resettled and flooded (along with cemeteries, churches, houses, etc.)
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 26 March 2018 15: 33
                    +6
                    Quote: your1970
                    Housing provided

                    Keywords - HOUSING PROVIDED! And not worse, but better!
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 27 March 2018 08: 42
                      0
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Quote: your1970
                      Housing provided

                      Keywords - HOUSING PROVIDED! And not worse, but better!
                      - there was a house, and they gave a 2-3-ku in Khrushchev’s ..... well, the toilet is not in the yard (but in some places in the yard) ...
                  2. Gardamir
                    Gardamir 26 March 2018 17: 18
                    +4
                    resettled
                    By the way, guess for what billions in Moscow a reindeer herder from five-story buildings people take out?
                  3. Sewer krainiy
                    Sewer krainiy 26 March 2018 17: 56
                    +4
                    And by the way, yes, in the USSR, without asking at all (why the state needs it !!!) the local population, during the construction of the "seas" - flooded several dozen villages ..
                    Housing was provided, resettled and flooded (along with cemeteries, churches, houses, etc.)

                    What a blessing it was to get demolished! How many families were registered there !!! If you have time ... And each family has a separate apartment. smile Now the freebie is over, it was 40 meters - get the same amount.
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 26 March 2018 19: 34
              +1
              I don’t need a mortgage. I have three apartments, an ode on Ordynka in Moscow.
              1. Alf
                Alf 26 March 2018 21: 18
                +1
                Quote: Vadim237
                I don’t need a mortgage. I have three apartments, an ode on Ordynka in Moscow.

                Yes, at least on Ilyinka, 23. Nobody cares how many apartments you have. Wanted to boast?
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 26 March 2018 23: 00
                  +1
                  You talked about the mortgage - so I answered. Everything can be earned by honest labor - there would be a desire.
                2. Alber
                  Alber 28 March 2018 12: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: Alf
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  I don’t need a mortgage. I have three apartments, an ode on Ordynka in Moscow.

                  Yes, at least on Ilyinka, 23. Nobody cares how many apartments you have. Wanted to boast?

                  Fat cat. Capitalist.
              2. Alber
                Alber 28 March 2018 12: 06
                +1
                Quote: Vadim237
                I don’t need a mortgage. I have three apartments, an ode on Ordynka in Moscow.

                Time to burn
          2. SPACE
            SPACE 26 March 2018 11: 00
            +4
            Quote: Vadim237
            Over the past year, Russia built 82 million square meters of housing.

            Patriots claim that there is no industry, the economy is torn to shreds, everywhere collapse, poverty and unemployment, this can not be shorter wassat
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              1. SPACE
                SPACE 26 March 2018 15: 27
                +2
                Quote: Anti-Corr.
                And you tell me that the children in Kemerovo set themselves on fire, and in Volokolamsk they poisoned themselves ..

                Firstly, I don’t owe you anything, secondly you yourself came up with this and said fool Children do not need to touch.
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 26 March 2018 19: 40
              +1
              Yes, nothing at all, everything is in ruin: the population is impoverished, children, the old people are starving, the army is sitting on biscuits, the FSB is looting, the press is squeezed, the psychiatric hospital is dissolved - Russia is a black hole, everything is disappearing
          3. NordUral
            NordUral 26 March 2018 12: 23
            +15
            This is not the construction of housing for the people, but, for the most part, investments stolen in square meters.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 26 March 2018 19: 46
              +2
              "Investments stolen in square meters." Forgot to add - investments in the army, astronautics, science, education, transport, energy, social - all these are stolen funds. Do not forget to add this to your folder “Signs of a fraudulent state” - otherwise the picture is not complete.
              1. Click
                Click 26 March 2018 20: 05
                +2
                Well, they bent .. lol So what kind of investors do they expect from abroad? Science, education, social sphere are right on top of us ... wassat yourself not funny to write nonsense? negative
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 26 March 2018 23: 03
                  +3
                  Well, for clarity, last year’s budget spending - this is so for those who write nonsense.
                  1. Click
                    Click 27 March 2018 11: 30
                    +2
                    It's all clear laughing I can draw a lot of such graphs for you ... Do you better tell me how many recipients it reaches? .. or why do sick children get rid of the whole world on fed.channels? negative
              2. free
                free 27 March 2018 07: 53
                0
                Quote: Vadim237
                "Investments stolen in square meters." Forgot to add - investments in the army, astronautics, science, education, transport, energy, social - all these are stolen funds. Do not forget to add this to your folder “Signs of a fraudulent state” - otherwise the picture is not complete.

                You Vadim turns out to be a somewhat inconsistent position.
                1. Click
                  Click 27 March 2018 11: 26
                  +2
                  I also noticed smile The oligarchs and so will remain at the trough - for the trough, this is their property: mining, processing and production. His comment .. from and against ... wassat
        2. your1970
          your1970 26 March 2018 10: 40
          +2
          Quote: Gardamir
          and the march of truckers
          -That yes, these are wonderful people, true patriots ... For their piece - whoever they want will clutch their throats ...

          our truths for transportation threw silent 30% and did not buzz, although they did not go where Platonic control is possible ...
        3. free
          free 26 March 2018 12: 02
          +2
          Quote: Gardamir
          That's about as
          Perhaps you are right in something, but ... Then free medicine and education, nothing threatened the children on the streets. Residential buildings were built, not shopping centers. And most importantly, love for the motherland is not the same as love for the president. And we are told that we need to love presidential toys, the Olympics, some kind of M (obscene word) on football, Syria. And no one says about the marches of farmers from Krasnodar and the march of Truckers, garbage riots.
          There are claims, but not to the homeland, but to the authorities.

          Homeland is the concept of an ephemeral claim to it, and besides, it does not control our lives. But power through the state completely affects our lives and it is quite possible to shake one’s sleep if you wish, since it’s ultimately people.
        4. Natalia777
          Natalia777 26 March 2018 15: 09
          +2
          Gardamir, you need to be able to understand at least a little bit about global politics before condemning the Government for the Olympics and international competitions. You judge with your little mink. There, in your mink, there really is no place for anything but sausage.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 26 March 2018 17: 41
            +5
            There you have a mink
            you need to be able to understand at least a little in people than to make unfounded accusations. And about sausage, this is for those when the country is at a break, and they left the party, from the office, for the sake of sausage.
          2. free
            free 26 March 2018 18: 27
            +5
            Quote: Natalia777
            Gardamir, you need to be able to understand at least a little bit about global politics before condemning the Government for the Olympics and international competitions. You judge with your little mink. There, in your mink, there really is no place for anything but sausage.

            Enlighten us, can you or poorly? How do Olympiads help us (the people) and the country?
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 26 March 2018 19: 53
              0
              They help those who design, build, manufacture, and conduct related business - thanks to the Olympiads, other construction projects and events, millions of people participate in this, and the benefits of this are taxes that go to the state budget, and from the state budget disperse throughout the country.
              1. free
                free 27 March 2018 07: 58
                +2
                Quote: Vadim237
                They help those who design, build, manufacture, and conduct related business - thanks to the Olympiads, other construction projects and events, millions of people participate in this, and the benefits of this are taxes that go to the state budget, and from the state budget disperse throughout the country.

                So can compare the numbers of tax revenues and the costs for the construction and holding of competitions? And if we were to build the pipelines and factories there would be no taxes from them in the budget? And the work would be for people in the long run, and not just during the construction period.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 27 March 2018 09: 23
                  0
                  Only here, the return on investment from factories and factories can take several years and only then they will start to make a profit, but then how lucky 50 to 50 can make a profit, or maybe go bankrupt. Those industries that are needed and economically justified are opened.
                  1. Click
                    Click 27 March 2018 11: 33
                    0
                    At the ZP, they saved the hard workers for 5 years, paid back ... wink
          3. Alf
            Alf 26 March 2018 21: 21
            +3
            Quote: Natalia777
            denounce the Government for the Olympics and International competitions.
            This is where Russia was lowered from all sides, and the guarantor said that we ourselves are to blame?
      3. BecmepH
        BecmepH 26 March 2018 08: 22
        +23
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Something tells me that if the Union were now, as it were, they would shout (with about the same intensity) about the lack of sausage.

        So about the absence of sausage shouting "anti-Soviet".
        This is the main argument against the USSR.
        But now the “sausages” are in full swing. Why in quotation marks? Yes, because it's a pseudo-product ... vegetable!
        Well, the main argument of the "anti-Soviet" -filled yards with cars and rest abroad))) After all, it is all-inclusive. Tagiyiel ...
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 10: 15
          +7
          Quote: BecmepH
          But now the “sausages” are in full swing. Why in quotation marks? Yes, because it's a pseudo-product ...

          It’s free for you to pull any nasty stuff into your mouth ...
          I, for example, prefer tinnac. Own production yes
          1. zoolu350
            zoolu350 26 March 2018 11: 05
            +12
            Have your masters from the oligarchy of the Russian Federation really not thrown you a piece of meat? And cannabis from the dog in the photo?
            1. Alber
              Alber 26 March 2018 16: 34
              +4
              Quote: zoolu350
              ? And cannabis from the dog in the photo?

              ))) Nah!
              How can ... This is his favorite bug
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            1. NordUral
              NordUral 26 March 2018 12: 26
              +3
              I understand that you have Wi-Fi in the fields is already available.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 26 March 2018 19: 55
                0
                Satellite Internet accessibility everywhere from anywhere in the world.
            2. free
              free 26 March 2018 18: 28
              +3
              Quote: Vasyaga
              Whoever has the tinned meat of his cooking, at ten in the morning, he’s hunchbacked in the field, and not on the Internet, he’ll ... bol!

              The young man is a brother, so his tail and mane.
          3. BecmepH
            BecmepH 26 March 2018 11: 17
            +5
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: BecmepH
            But now the “sausages” are in full swing. Why in quotation marks? Yes, because it's a pseudo-product ...

            It’s free for you to pull any nasty stuff into your mouth ...
            I, for example, prefer tinnac. Own production yes

            Be objective, since you started. Do you only eat cannabis? And the bread, milk? Are the kids candy?
            Own production
            ??
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 11: 26
              +8
              Quote: BecmepH
              Own production

              What bothered you so much?
              The meat is bought for honestly earned money. From it stew is cooked. In a pressure cooker.
              At least you know what you eat.
              Yet simple request
              By the way, workers of sausage factories and at the Union ate their own sausage ... not too willingly.
              Strange, is not it? belay
              1. BecmepH
                BecmepH 26 March 2018 11: 34
                +4
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Quote: BecmepH
                Own production

                What bothered you so much?
                The meat is bought for honestly earned money. From it stew is cooked. In a pressure cooker.
                At least you know what you eat.
                Yet simple request
                By the way, workers of sausage factories and at the Union ate their own sausage ... not too willingly.
                Strange, is not it? belay

                Go away from the answer)) Not everyone can admit that they are mistaken somewhere.
                But to admit your mistake is not a shame.
                We have a dispute. A dispute is not only insults (in your understanding)
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 11: 41
                  +4
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  Get away from the answer

                  Where? Where? You rave, hike ...
                  Chewed everything already, like that stew a little one.
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  But admit your mistake is not a shame

                  What is the mistake? And who?
                  You ... slurred request
                  1. BecmepH
                    BecmepH 26 March 2018 13: 05
                    +8
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Quote: BecmepH
                    Get away from the answer

                    Where? Where? You rave, hike ...
                    Chewed everything already, like that stew a little one.
                    Quote: BecmepH
                    But admit your mistake is not a shame

                    What is the mistake? And who?
                    You ... slurred request

                    Well then. Your thought was that supposedly such people would find a reason to shout at any time. And as an example, they mentioned Soviet Sausage.
                    Mentioning sausage, I had in mind that for the present, and not invented, it makes sense to scream and fight.
                    You and your stew took away the conversation in the direction of Makarevichevsky Smak. And while I hear
                    You ... slurred

                    Just tell me why you are starting to shake if someone is nostalgic for the USSR?
                    Well, if this does not bother you, then be more respectful to those who think differently. You yourself constantly run up, considering yourself more intelligent.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 13: 26
                      +6
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      Your thought was that supposedly such people would find a reason to shout at any time. And as an example, they mentioned Soviet Sausage

                      So far so good.
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      Mentioning sausage, I had in mind that for the present, and not invented, it makes sense to scream and fight

                      And it also makes sense not to buy (and not pull in your mouth) all sorts of rubbish. I'm trying to convey this to you, ahem.
                      And to scream ... well, you can, of course ... wallow, to me - exactly request
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      why does it start to shake you if someone is nostalgic for the USSR

                      It doesn't start me. And does not shake. You have glitches.
                      Are you satisfied?
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      You yourself constantly run up, considering yourself smarter

                      And I am - more intelligent. And not everyone likes it wink
                      I - again - exactly yes
                      1. BecmepH
                        BecmepH 26 March 2018 13: 39
                        +5
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        And it also makes sense not to buy (and not pull in your mouth) all sorts of rubbish. I'm trying to convey this to you, ahem.

                        So I'm saying that you all go on gastronomic and oral (pull in your mouth) topics. Some obsessive thought is eating you. Sitting on the same cannabis will not bring to good. It is necessary to diversify the diet.
                        And do not leave the topic. And if there is nothing to answer, it is better not to answer ... out of place.
                        Although, where I'm going ... After all, you
                        smarter

                        You are boring ... and you see everywhere that someone is pulling something in his mouth. Obsessive goes with you. This is not casual. The end of communication.
                      2. free
                        free 26 March 2018 18: 32
                        +3
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        Your thought was that supposedly such people would find a reason to shout at any time. And as an example, they mentioned Soviet Sausage

                        So far so good.
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        Mentioning sausage, I had in mind that for the present, and not invented, it makes sense to scream and fight

                        And it also makes sense not to buy (and not pull in your mouth) all sorts of rubbish. I'm trying to convey this to you, ahem.
                        And to scream ... well, you can, of course ... wallow, to me - exactly request
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        why does it start to shake you if someone is nostalgic for the USSR

                        It doesn't start me. And does not shake. You have glitches.
                        Are you satisfied?
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        You yourself constantly run up, considering yourself smarter

                        And I am - more intelligent. And not everyone likes it wink
                        I - again - exactly yes

                        And why is all the rubbish on our shelves lying? Maybe it should be removed? Do not want to work for the good of the country, take it? By the way, when the Union didn’t!
              2. Sewer krainiy
                Sewer krainiy 26 March 2018 18: 08
                +6
                By the way, workers of sausage factories and at the Union ate their own sausage ... not too willingly.
                Strange, is not it?

                Busting, however. My son-in-law worked for 15 years at a meat-packing plant as a smoker. Sausage expert. They ate with pleasure, and now they eat. And with an inter-mug on a glass of tea - they only send it for an appetizer, it will take tasty, cheap and cheerful laughing
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 20: 47
                  +5
                  Quote: Sewer Krainiy
                  Son-in-law of 15 years worked at a meat-packing plant as a smoker

                  Under the Union? How old are you then?
                  Before answering, read carefully what you are responding to.
                  This is advice. kind yes
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 26 March 2018 20: 58
                    0
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    kind

                    "I am kind.
                    But he did no good to anyone ... " K.Nikolsky.
                    wassat good
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 21: 00
                      +5
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      K. Nikolsky

                      To be honest - I did not understand.
                      Is that a compliment, or a fight? recourse
                      1. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 26 March 2018 21: 02
                        +1
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Is that a compliment, or a fight?

                        I would not like, Roman, to be your enemy ... laughing
                        Your comments and logic decorate our site.
                        hi
                  2. Sewer krainiy
                    Sewer krainiy 26 March 2018 21: 06
                    +3
                    Golovan Jack (Roman) Today, 20:47 ↑
                    Quote: Sewer Krainiy
                    Son-in-law of 15 years worked at a meat-packing plant as a smoker
                    Under the Union? How old are you then?
                    Before answering, read carefully what you are responding to.
                    This is advice. Good yes

                    Well, you have humor, green trees ... laughing It won’t come right away .... then on the topic, on the topic - and in quotation marks ... guess, they say, herself ... laughing And to me ... without a couple of months 70, I still remember Stalin’s funeral, what can I say about the Union.
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 21: 20
                      +4
                      This is not a collision, I really do not understand ...
                      and now I don’t understand what time you wrote.
                      I am four to 60, so what and how was under Soyu, I also remember quite well yes
                      1. Sewer krainiy
                        Sewer krainiy 26 March 2018 21: 34
                        +1
                        Golovan Jack (Roman) Today, 21:20 ↑
                        This is not a collision, I really do not understand ...
                        and now I don’t understand what time you wrote.
                        I am four to 60, so what and how was under Soyu, I also remember well yes

                        If you are talking about sausage, then he worked in the Soviet and post-Soviet times, then he left smile to another job. But if behind a snack - and now only he ... And I didn’t write about another time ...?
              3. Svetlana
                Svetlana 27 March 2018 12: 36
                +2
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                By the way, workers of sausage factories and at the Union ate their own sausage ... not too willingly.
                Strange, is not it?

                You are mistaken! A lie of pure water! They ate themselves, ate everything, and sick children were not born at the same time, and people didn’t die so massively of cancer. Sausage was made according to the strictest GOST, for which it was possible to sit for a long time to avoid it.
          4. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 26 March 2018 14: 52
            0
            Yeah, it's easy to boil or fry a piece of meat.))
        2. Natalia777
          Natalia777 26 March 2018 15: 16
          +2
          The USSR is the future. We in the USSR jumped 500 years ahead of the laws of development and therefore fell apart. In 500 years, the great USSR will be on Earth - or all will perish. Of course, not everyone will copy, but the main idea - equality, fraternity, social security, high culture and ideals - this will be the basis of the new USSR.
          1. dSK
            dSK 26 March 2018 15: 47
            0
            Quote: Natalia777
            In 500 years, the great USSR will be on Earth - or all will perish.
            Watch the Gospel - The Acts of the Apostles - 2:45 "And they sold the estates and all property, and shared it with everyone, looking according to the needs of everyone." http://days.pravoslavie.ru/Bible/B_deqn2.htm
            2000 years ago, the early Christian communities created the prototype of "communism" - equality, fraternity, social security, high culture and ideals. In the end, it will all be after "the second coming of Christ."
          2. free
            free 27 March 2018 08: 04
            0
            Quote: Natalia777
            The USSR is the future. We in the USSR jumped 500 years ahead of the laws of development and therefore fell apart. In 500 years, the great USSR will be on Earth - or all will perish. Of course, not everyone will copy, but the main idea - equality, fraternity, social security, high culture and ideals - this will be the basis of the new USSR.

            Just the Putin Government deserves the love and respect of the people
            Not really yours. Vladimir Putin out of competition. Liberastov - on the soap
            Another, all sisters earrings!
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 March 2018 19: 54
          0
          The sausages are real now blockage - but it stands decently, because it is real.
      4. NordUral
        NordUral 26 March 2018 09: 55
        +15
        You are lying, my friend.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 10: 16
          +10
          Quote: NordUral
          You are lying, my friend.

          You yourself ... buddy negative
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 40
            +9
            Your answer is classically trivial.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 11: 49
              +9
              Quote: NordUral
              Your answer is classically trivial

              I would answer you ... non-trivially, but the moderator is watching. And losing a nick because of you ... well, it's not worth it wink
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 26 March 2018 12: 28
                +11
                What else to expect from you is boring. Or presyatina or a bit of disguised rudeness. The argument is not visible.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 26 March 2018 12: 57
                  +8
                  Quote: NordUral
                  What else to expect from you, boring

                  Boring - call the gypsies.
                  But something tells me what will happen, as in that joke:
                  ... they sat, sat ... "Boring," - they say, "you" ... And left
                2. businessv
                  businessv 26 March 2018 15: 25
                  +12
                  Quote: NordUral
                  What else to expect from you is boring. Or presyatina or a bit of disguised rudeness. The argument is not visible.

                  You are in vain trying to polemicize with this clever person! We still have three of them in VO, but I remember two - Jack Golovan and SPACE. They never write their opinions on the material of articles - only short notes on someone’s comments, most of them caustic and biased. They, IMHO, no one listens anywhere, here they are trying to attract attention. Do not try to conduct a dialogue with them, you just spend your time on them and, in most cases, nerves. hi
          2. free
            free 26 March 2018 11: 54
            +9
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: NordUral
            You are lying, my friend.

            You yourself ... buddy negative

            Like you (jack-headed) friends, straight to the museum!
    2. SPACE
      SPACE 26 March 2018 11: 09
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      And those who love their homeland, love everything and always!

      You’re probably a necrophile, you like the whole past, but you don’t like the present Crimea, for example.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 41
        +5
        Demyan, and Crimea is our past. As was ours, it returned. Do not distort.
        1. SPACE
          SPACE 26 March 2018 12: 39
          +2
          Quote: NordUral
          , and Crimea is our past. As was ours, it returned. Do not distort.

          If time is measured in minutes, then this is the past, and if by epochs it is present. Think.
      2. BecmepH
        BecmepH 26 March 2018 13: 13
        +2
        Quote: SPACE
        Quote: Gardamir
        And those who love their homeland, love everything and always!

        You’re probably a necrophile, you like the whole past, but you don’t like the present Crimea, for example.

        A strange example ... A strange way of thinking ...
        Do you propose not to remember (forget) your ancestors?
        "You are sweet side where the navel is cut," dear. If anything -
        folk wisdom.
        1. SPACE
          SPACE 26 March 2018 13: 20
          0
          Quote: BecmepH
          A strange example ... A strange way of thinking ...

          So it seems strange to me lol
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 26 March 2018 13: 26
            +4
            Quote: SPACE
            Quote: BecmepH
            A strange example ... A strange way of thinking ...

            So it seems strange to me lol

            Is it strange to know your story and remember your ancestors?
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 26 March 2018 15: 47
              +5
              Quote: BecmepH
              Is it strange to know your story and remember your ancestors?

              Strange for in vitro grown expression about cut navel! laughing
    3. Svetlana
      Svetlana 26 March 2018 14: 19
      +5
      Quote: Gardamir
      I read the article in one go. Only the mournful mind began to draw their conclusions.

      I also read in one breath to the penultimate paragraph. And then the breath of something resumed and went on.
  7. tasha
    tasha 26 March 2018 07: 37
    +10
    Once again, I wonder why the articles of Y. Selivanov fall into the category of Analytics ...
    There are no full conclusions, no reasonable proposals .. So, make some noise ...
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 26 March 2018 09: 16
      +7
      the main thing is that Grudinin and his mustache are only in the title - but not a word about it in the text itself.
      1. badens1111
        badens1111 26 March 2018 10: 04
        +5
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        the main thing is that Grudinin and his mustache are only in the title - but not a word about it in the text itself.

        And this is a method of provocation, for some, everything does not sit, exactly .. Just to shift the emphasis.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 42
          +1
          Is mustache the main thing?
      2. SPACE
        SPACE 26 March 2018 10: 43
        +1
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        the main thing is that Grudinin and his mustache are only in the title - but not a word about it in the text itself.

        You read inattentively ...
        The news feeds of such publications are a deliberately mixed up “salad” from news about really key events, such as a statement by the Russian General Staff about the nature of a future war and the absolute nonsense surrounding it about whether the ex-presidential candidate Grudinin shaved off or didn’t shave his mustache.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 26 March 2018 09: 56
      +3
      Or maybe you don’t understand something and this is the reason for your surprise?
      1. tasha
        tasha 26 March 2018 10: 08
        +2
        It may well be, I do not argue.
        Have you read the second sentence of my comment? Over the past week, this is the third article by Yu. Selivanov, which is in the "Opinion" category, I think so.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 43
          +2
          It is possible in opinions, not the point.
    3. free
      free 26 March 2018 11: 52
      0
      Quote: tasha
      Once again, I wonder why the articles of Y. Selivanov fall into the category of Analytics ...
      There are no full conclusions, no reasonable proposals .. So, make some noise ...

      There are no conclusions as well as suggestions, but I think they will be soon, not from those from others. But there is analytics, how did you not see it?
  8. Greenwood
    Greenwood 26 March 2018 08: 11
    +20
    In fairness, Grudinin shaved his mustache. A man said a man did. hi
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 26 March 2018 08: 15
      +5
      Quote: Greenwood
      Grudinin shaved his mustache. A man said a man did. hi

      PR, to once again attract attention, creating a positive image.
      How is it with his courts, where is he the defendant for weaning shares?
      1. badens1111
        badens1111 26 March 2018 10: 06
        +19
        Quote: Balu
        How is it with his courts, where is he the defendant for weaning shares?

        Yes, calm down already, all your filkins have crawled out before the elections. So they were blown away after you have nothing against Grudinin, except for rumors, gossip and other things.
      2. Anti-Corr.
        Anti-Corr. 26 March 2018 10: 22
        +7
        Quote: Balu
        PR, to once again attract attention, creating a positive image.
        How is it with his courts, where is he the defendant for weaning shares?

        Are you really interested in this? Then do not skip the litter-tv releases.
      3. zoolu350
        zoolu350 26 March 2018 11: 09
        +6
        Quote: Balu
        PR, to once again attract attention, creating a positive image.
        How is it with his courts, where is he the defendant for weaning shares?

        And after March 18, these "victims" of Grudinin’s oligarchy of the Russian Federation on the side. The Moor did his work, and further the problems of the Moor himself.
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 26 March 2018 14: 16
          +2
          Quote: zoolu350
          after March 18, these "victims" from Grudinin

          Is Grudinin to blame for this, or is there too much of those who are simply lying? And thereby, directly distracts the attention of the population from the really guilty?
          Anton Gorelkin, State Duma deputy from the Kuzbass, commented on the fire in the “Winter Cherry” shopping center. Exits from the cinema halls were locked, says the parliamentarian. He laid the blame on the investor and building officials.
          Denis Shtengelov: biography, family, condition. KDV-Group

          http://fb.ru/article/320390/de...



          All those who are interested in whether it is possible to grow from a small seller of seeds into a serious businessman, whose current position is not only stable in the country's commercial market, but also continues to grow rapidly from year to year, it is recommended to read this article.
          “Locked fire exits that turned the shopping center into a trap. Children who died near these exits! They knew where the exit was, going in the right direction, but the doors were locked! Children locked in the cinema: according to preliminary data, the controller locked the doors to the cinema and left when it all started, didn’t return and didn’t tell anyone ... No organized evacuation, panic and stampede, jumping from the windows, Gorelkin believes. - And the person who earned on “Winter Cherry” is now in Australia, where he constantly lives. This is billionaire Denis Shtengelov, owner of KDV Group, the Russian confectionery king. The ownership structure of the Winter Cherry is very complicated, through several legal issues, but the center was built with his money and he had to know what was being built and how it was being operated. The formal head of the shopping center should also be responsible, but it is important that the shopping center was put into operation in 2013. "

          Gorelkin claims that the acceptance certificate of the shopping center was signed by the "deputy mayor, head of the city improvement department." He does not give a surname, now Dmitry Berezovsky takes the post of profile vice mayor.
          facebook.com/gorelkin.anton State Duma deputy about the tragedy in Kemerovo: Children went to the exits, but the doors were locked 26 Mar 2018, 06:54

          http://tayga.info/139601
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 26 March 2018 19: 45
            0
            Quote: badens1111
            They knew where the exit was, going in the right direction, but the doors were locked!

            The greedy owners of the center, that’s locking the exits, so that the naughty people wouldn’t run to watch a movie from the street.
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      5. NordUral
        NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 44
        +4
        To persist in delusions is not valor, but stupidity. If not just maintaining lies about billiards and shareholders.
      6. Svetlana
        Svetlana 26 March 2018 14: 24
        +7
        Quote: Balu
        How is it with his courts, where is he the defendant for weaning shares?

        There are no shares in a closed joint-stock company. Only stocks. And the "victims" after the election were satisfied, they are silent, where are they? Apparently, their "shares" have already received.
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 26 March 2018 09: 12
      +22
      Quote: Greenwood
      In fairness, Grudinin shaved his mustache. A man said a man did. hi

      Zaputintsy will still be coveting - now, like, for the sake of PR lol
      1. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 26 March 2018 09: 51
        +15
        Zaputintsy will still bay

        so after all a win-win option: did not shave off - balabol, shaved off - for the sake of PR
        1. SPACE
          SPACE 26 March 2018 13: 16
          0
          Quote: Bulrumeb
          so after all a win-win option: did not shave off - balabol, shaved off - for the sake of PR

          good Well, he himself was said before. The language will bring to the mustache. wassat
      2. ML-334
        ML-334 26 March 2018 09: 56
        +1
        Durik! Why did you shave your mustache? -Diamond hand. Zyuzya for the Obkomov’s bobos lowered the Communist Party with the nomination of a person whose decency is not known, at the expense of a man, if something is hanging between his legs this does not mean that he is one.
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 26 March 2018 10: 07
          +7
          Quote: ML-334
          at the expense of a man, if something is hanging between his legs this does not mean that he is one.

          Are you talking about yourself?
          Correctly you described yourself .. only frankly not a man, gossip will be added.
          1. ML-334
            ML-334 26 March 2018 10: 15
            0
            What is gossip? Also shaved his mustache?
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 26 March 2018 10: 24
              +9
              Goebbels' pupils broadcast much more readily about mythical billions and deceived shareholders to please their master than about choking on landfill gases and children burnt alive. Mourn Condolences. https://vk.com/yuri_boldyrev?w=wall-19071927_3849
              05
              1. ML-334
                ML-334 26 March 2018 10: 43
                0
                I don’t give a damn about his billions, why he jumped off the grandmother in the debate, would explain that as with all, the people would understand.
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 26 March 2018 11: 08
                  +12
                  I think everything has already been discussed with the grandmother more than once. And to arrange a public showdown with a grandmother (a very muddy special incident) for the whole country, especially in the conditions when the candidates are limited in time in their speeches - this is stupidity and a clear provocation from the side of the distant Suraikin. This is, after all, not Let Let It Be.
                  1. ML-334
                    ML-334 26 March 2018 13: 20
                    +1
                    If she’s a murky person, take him to clean water to arrange a tantrum.
                    1. badens1111
                      badens1111 26 March 2018 14: 17
                      0
                      Quote: ML-334
                      bring to clean water that to arrange a tantrum.

                      Do not arrange. And do not stir up the water.
                    2. Greenwood
                      Greenwood 26 March 2018 14: 47
                      +2
                      Quote: ML-334
                      If she’s a muddy lady, take him to clean water
                      For these miserable minutes of time allotted for the performance?
                    3. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 26 March 2018 15: 55
                      +1
                      Quote: ML-334
                      If she’s a murky person, take him to clean water to arrange a tantrum.

                2. zoolu350
                  zoolu350 26 March 2018 11: 16
                  +10
                  That is, the provocateur Suraykin from somewhere dragged this woman, and Solovyov calmly gave it to crank up in violation of the order of performances. Shevchenko correctly said then: "I am the official representative of Grudinin, and here is my certified and signed power of attorney, and who are you?" How do you instantly swallow the fraud of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation.
                3. V. Salama
                  V. Salama 26 March 2018 23: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: ML-334
                  I don’t give a damn about his billions, why he jumped off the grandmother in the debate, would explain that as with all, the people would understand.

                  Do you live under anesthesia or where? He has explained about this grandmother to the people thirty times, how much more can you do? And during a planned provocation to explain to the people ... it makes no sense. They won’t let me say a word - it was checked at previous “meetings with reporters”. That's why he left - the only correct option in this situation. About billions - similarly, only the lazy did not understand, even the CEC admitted libel.
          2. NordUral
            NordUral 26 March 2018 12: 32
            +4
            About the same way I wanted to answer this aircraft board.
      3. NordUral
        NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 46
        +7
        Not just a bay, but work. There is truth and sincerely rejoicing for the guarantor of our guaranteed poverty.
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 26 March 2018 09: 57
      +16
      He is a man! But we, the people of Russia, turned out not to be Citizens, but a population, a stupid electorate.
      1. ML-334
        ML-334 26 March 2018 10: 33
        +2
        In terms of numbers, all Russians are a stupid electorate who does not understand what happiness he is missing, does not want to turn Russia into a state farm named after Lenin, or maybe the people do not want the 90's return.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 26 March 2018 11: 11
          +14
          Quote: ML-334
          maybe people do not want the return of the 90s
          I do not understand the logic of putinoids. If not Putin, then immediately the 90s ??? In other words, your choice is either “bad” (as it is now) or “very bad” (as in the 90s). Option "good" (as in the State Farm Grudinin), in principle, you are not considering?
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 26 March 2018 13: 09
            +1
            Quote: Greenwood
            The option of "good" (as in the State Farm Grudinin), in principle, you are not considering?

            Quote: NordUral
            To persist in delusions is not valor, but stupidity.

            You figure it out, hot Finnish guys laughing
          2. ML-334
            ML-334 26 March 2018 13: 14
            +2
            If he had created a state farm named after Lenin somewhere in the Trans-Urals, he would have voted with both hands and would have campaigned for him. He is connected not by hearsay and I know that they couldn’t get up when the fuel of a penny was now worth 40 rubles a liter. By the money at the state farm Lenin is grown-poppy and hemp is no longer anything to take that kind of money.
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 26 March 2018 14: 54
              +6
              It is surprising if everything is so simple, why other state farms near Moscow have not survived to our times, even in the form of a closed joint-stock company ?!
            2. businessv
              businessv 26 March 2018 15: 08
              +5
              Quote: ML-334
              For money, a poppy is grown on the state farm named after Lenin and there is no longer anything for hemp to get that kind of money from.

              Dear, and you first visit him, this state farm, and then you will reason! I was there, I plan to go more this year, I wonder what has changed in 2 years. What did you do when you were connected with state farms? Not only such an economy in Russia, including beyond the Urals - work hard, you will find yourself.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 51
          +10
          He already wrote about the numbers - at the time I received the newsletter in the magazine, on the page with my last name, about 40% of the lines were filled as if they had voted. I voted about 19-30, half an hour before the closure of the site. It was in St. Petersburg, where, according to Pamfilova, allegedly a turnout of 64%. So estimate about numbers, please.
        3. Svetlana
          Svetlana 26 March 2018 14: 30
          +13
          Quote: ML-334
          In terms of numbers, all Russians are a stupid electorate who does not understand what happiness he is missing, does not want to turn Russia into a state farm named after Lenin, or maybe the people do not want the 90's return.

          Better state farm named after Lenin than the Lake cooperative.
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 26 March 2018 15: 11
            0
            Quote: Svetlana
            Better state farm named after Lenin than the Lake cooperative.

            Someone like one is full of strawberries, and the other and the Crimea is not enough.
          2. Galaxy
            Galaxy 26 March 2018 15: 27
            +6
            unfortunately, after these "elections" the state farm may begin to have big problems, and new houses for ducks will continue to appear on the "Lake".
      2. Greenwood
        Greenwood 26 March 2018 11: 15
        +10
        Quote: NordUral
        But we, the people of Russia, turned out not to be Citizens, but a population, a stupid electorate.
        Alas, the bulk of the people were not interested in the elections, did not read the candidates' programs and out of habit voted for the one to whom they were used and whose name had been heard for many years. Further, the same mass will again angrily resent the next 6 years, that the salary is small, that prices and tariffs are rising, gasoline is expensive, all sorts of new requisitions like “Plato” are growing like mushrooms after rain, while the roads, as they were in the pits, remained .
    4. SPACE
      SPACE 26 March 2018 10: 46
      +2
      Quote: Greenwood
      In fairness, Grudinin shaved his mustache. A man said a man did.

      As all the same, the electorate needs little to be happy laughing
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 26 March 2018 11: 11
        +7
        What did you want to say?
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 51
        +4
        Are you talking about yourself?
      3. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 26 March 2018 15: 28
        +2
        As all the same, the electorate needs little to be happy

        so against the background of some promises, just an example of honesty
    5. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 March 2018 20: 04
      0
      And great - let’s continue to deal with strawberries.
  9. Loess
    Loess 26 March 2018 08: 28
    +4
    As a professional news journalist, based on his many years of experience
    allows himself to use this kind of jargon:
    "lower",
    ? In the "great and mighty" not enough synonyms?
    Along with thorough and, one must admit, in a number of cases highly professional work
    Unfortunately, this is not the case with this article ...
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 26 March 2018 09: 32
      +2
      Kamrad Less, perhaps you are right: the author of the article does it himself contrary to his requirements.
      Therefore, accept +
      Quote: Greenwood
      In fairness, Grudinin shaved his mustache. A man said a man did. hi

      And how much did he fly?
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 53
        +1
        And how did he bustle, clarify?
      2. businessv
        businessv 26 March 2018 15: 02
        +6
        Quote: Monarchist
        And how much did he fly?

        A bright representative of everyone dissatisfied: he did not shave his mustache - yeah! He promised, but he doesn’t! Shaved off his mustache - yeah! And how much did he fly? He did not bargain, but was waiting for the announcement of the final election results, not intermediate ones! hi
      3. V. Salama
        V. Salama 26 March 2018 23: 50
        0
        Quote: Monarchist
        .....
        Quote: Greenwood
        In fairness, Grudinin shaved his mustache. A man said a man did. hi

        And how much did he fly?

        Who is it? I shaved it because I understood it - it’s pointless to explain something to the thimbles and to those who are not in the topic of life.
        Although, at first I tried to explain that I shouldn’t shave, since it was initially stated that “if the elections are fair,” I will gain 15%.
        As it turned out, and this page of the site is a confirmation of this, many do not yet have information for an objective assessment of the quality of the past elections. I can still understand pensioners who do not own a computer. But for this audience he shaved his mustache, I think so. They are not to blame for not having the ability to obtain information. But to explain ... such things are not publicly explained - since possible reactions will not be required: gloating, resentment, "if you make excuses - it means to blame", etc.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 26 March 2018 09: 59
      +1
      If you are not lying, my friend, hired for the election.
    3. Svetlana
      Svetlana 26 March 2018 14: 37
      +3
      Quote: Less
      As a professional news journalist, based on his many years of experience
      allows himself to use this kind of jargon:
      "lower",
      ? In the "great and mighty" not enough synonyms?

      Since the late 90’s, such jargon has entered official journalistic speech, it comes from the top leadership, which from the screens of zombies uses it in their statements. A “professional news journalist” is required to keep his nose upwind.
  10. shinobi
    shinobi 26 March 2018 08: 40
    +2
    The effect of this operation will be as follows, the bulk will simply stop responding to any non-target information. Target infa, this is a type of sell-buy-change. For what this is done, exclude the bulk of the population from socio-political life. They were late for these elections. And yes , Hooray-patriotism actually has a very narrow audience. Most Internet users do not even read headlines that are not directly related to their hobbies.
  11. Wladwlad
    Wladwlad 26 March 2018 08: 49
    +4
    Then they asked me - "What opposition could be under Stalin."
    To which I replied - read Stalin's article, "Vertigo from Success."
    The Russian people then figured it out and NOW will figure it out too.
    1. Alber
      Alber 26 March 2018 16: 01
      +2
      Quote: WladWlad
      Then they asked me - "What opposition could be under Stalin."
      To which I replied - read Stalin's article, "Vertigo from Success."
      The Russian people then figured it out and NOW will figure it out too.


      For a long time something understands ...
  12. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 26 March 2018 08: 51
    +20
    Yes, this is not done on purpose, just the majority of the so-called “patriots” understand only “lubok”, they don’t even have a minimal analysis of the situation or information, they live with “slogans” and “cheers”, they like it .. the same "pan-sauce" as in Ukraine, it is useless to say that colors have shades, and not only divided into "white" and "black" ....
  13. Horon
    Horon 26 March 2018 08: 57
    +5
    Article plus! So it is and it’s good that it starts to reach many!
  14. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 26 March 2018 09: 00
    +6
    Yuri, is the State Department again? wink In my opinion, the chest opens simply. It’s precisely the oligarchs who are trying to divert the patriotic theme from power to zero. Therefore, bets on both Putin and Grudinin. The oligarchs from power are the main thing for them to stay at the trough and manipulate people. What is your point of view, Yuri?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 March 2018 09: 09
      +6
      The oligarchs and so will remain at the trough - for the trough, this is their property: mining, processing and production.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 26 March 2018 09: 16
        +19
        laughing Yes, yes, tell me about Sechin and Miller and other appointees to the oligarchs from the government, from those who deprived of state property in the 90s. Who drives mineral water to the West, receiving huge profits for it and giving only a miserable part in the form of taxes. They are then driven by the NATIONAL STATE, well, at least they say so, and only those close to the body and pipe live on. And not, still clumsy footballers and the pseudo-liberal Ear of Matzah. Lord, this is where truly Orwell is!
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 55
          +8
          Not just a miserable part in the form of taxes, but plucked taxes by offshore companies and optimization, an insignificant part.
        2. businessv
          businessv 26 March 2018 14: 57
          +2
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          Yes, yes, tell me about Sechin and Miller.

          I don’t know whether they will be banned, but the word slash in Ukrainian means urine, maybe it will comfort you ?! lol
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 26 March 2018 15: 23
            +3
            So personalities, however, like names, are not important, although the Pupkins, the principle is important when power can appoint you as an oligarch. Cooperative Lake is a very cooperative cooperative.
        3. Sewer krainiy
          Sewer krainiy 26 March 2018 18: 44
          +4
          I'm surprised. They said - under Soviet rule, we lived off the pipe (there was the Friendship pipeline). Now: Friendship, Nord Stream, Power of Siberia. Nord Stream 2, South Stream and something else are being built. They are indignant, worried that they can hack Severny-2. So maybe let all the new pipes chopped. Do we need gas? They hack it - we will have more. If they need - let them bow, they will ask, and Russia will still think: when, how much and at what price smile And for some reason it hurts everyone to hurry faster and to transfer more of the contents of the bowels of Russia to a hill.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 26 March 2018 20: 11
            0
            It would be so simple - the budget was filled with the click of a finger, for the required amount.
        4. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 March 2018 20: 08
          0
          “They drive the NATIONAL Dignity” - In order to drive him, he must be obtained, stored, processed and transported - all this costs money and money only for those who do this - they pay taxes, they don’t owe anything to the rest.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 27 March 2018 09: 09
            +1
            I will even say more: they do not owe anything to anyone! This is the quintessence of modern liberal capitalism and the oligarchs in Russia and the world. So long as this revelry of the irresponsibility of worshiping the golden calf will rule the ball to the detriment of human lives, so will the Lame Horses and Winter Cherries, etc.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 26 March 2018 10: 02
      +11
      The State Department, Andrei, nervously smoked in a canister, looking at the actions of the Kremlin and the near-Kremlin “patriots”. I listen to Pamfilova about fair elections - tears of tenderness flow in streams.
      1. zoolu350
        zoolu350 26 March 2018 11: 19
        +6
        Just the State Department (Fed owners) did not smoke, but rather rubbed his hands and drank bourbon, because everything happened according to their plan.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 55
          +6
          It just sticks out even more clearly who is up there.
      2. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 26 March 2018 12: 15
        +4
        smile With Panfilova, everything is just simple and clear. The usual unpretentious multi-path at the level of a business school. Her figure was initially taken to an opposition type camp. And then it was taken from there so that the West recognized the elections as legitimate.
    3. businessv
      businessv 26 March 2018 14: 55
      +3
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      Therefore, bets on both Putin and Grudinin.

      Dear, why on earth did you slap these names together? RIAFAN was read, where Grudinin was called otherwise than an oligarch? No opinion? The author did not speak about patriotism, as such, but about the substitution of its concepts on many Internet resources! And also about how exactly and why this is done - the information war is on and according to your feedback it is clear that we are losing. Regarding the oligarchs and the feeding trough, you are right, of course, they are the ones who pay for this whole mess!
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 26 March 2018 14: 59
        +2
        Respected! But I see that we have already lost and thanks to guess what kind of people. Take off your pink glasses! As the Bible says: do not make yourself an idol! And from myself I’ll add that Grudinin was used in the dark. And this manipulator was Zyuganov.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 March 2018 20: 44
          0
          You lost, because the minority and all sorts of supposedly fraudulent elections have absolutely nothing to do with it. 76% is an indicator that people’s life is getting better.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 27 March 2018 09: 02
            +2
            wink So I even know these people by name. Their number is small. And I really do not enter this number, however, like all those present on the site.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 27 March 2018 09: 25
              0
              And here I come in - and note not the oligarch.
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 27 March 2018 15: 15
                +2
                smile Of course, not an oligarch! It wasn’t for them to get dirty themselves. They are quite capable of hiring writers. What do you think they get degrees and doctoral degrees? The scheme has been worked out since the early 2000s
        2. businessv
          businessv 27 March 2018 21: 39
          +1
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          And from myself I’ll add that Grudinin was used in the dark. And this manipulator was Zyuganov.

          You are also a conspiracy theorist! I’m even embarrassed to ask, for what purpose can you use a person “blindly”, nominating him as a candidate for President, and even after quite long and serious consultations? Earlier, as I understand it, you didn’t speak for yourself judging by the quote, then a personal question - how old are you, what do you say about idols and pink glasses? I already would not recall such words if it weren’t for you.smile
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 28 March 2018 09: 43
            0
            smile Vadim, if you were here all the time, and not on the orders of the party wink , you would have known for a long time that I am 45. Now I’m telling you how to use a person blindly. A person is taken, in this case Grudinin, mind you, not even a member of the party. He is tasked with participating in the elections, while the argument and motivation is chosen for a specific psychotype, while the manipulator usually hides the true goals of such castling. And voila! A man is sincerely upset by his defeat.
            Such technologies have long been used by various kinds of political strategists, not excluding the local site. Believe me, no conspiracy theories!
            1. V. Salama
              V. Salama 30 March 2018 13: 16
              +2
              Quote: businessv
              I’m even embarrassed to ask, for what purpose can you use a person “blindly”, nominating him as a candidate for President, and even after quite long and serious consultations?

              Quote: andrej-shironov
              Now I tell you how to use a person blindly ....

              Get the answer. I thought for a long time, taking what was said seriously, until it came to the question “for what purpose should I use the blind?”, But there can be many of these goals, the answer is “how can I use the blind” and: -
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              at the same time, the manipulator, as a rule, ignores the true goals of such castling. And voila! A man is sincerely upset by his defeat.

              In short, I understood it this way: Zu angered at Grudinin for something and decided to upset him, for which he used a tricky method - the upcoming elections ... What else are there “true goals could be ..? And, yes - to delay the votes, no, not that ... Yo-yo-yo ...., he did! He wanted to upset the oligarchs who dreamed of revenge using Grudinin, and the State Department and the fifth column in addition.

              This is what an administrative life-giving enthusiasm does! ... or excess artist? Most likely, this is typical of Freud.
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 30 March 2018 16: 10
                0
                smile Zu was pulled up for the tricks and said: either you yourself are participating in the fake elections in order to realize the divorce again from 1996, or you find a person you are manipulating. To which Zu, as a realist, took a visor under the peak and found Grudinin.
                Does this interpretation of events suit you?
                1. Anti-Corr.
                  Anti-Corr. 30 March 2018 16: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: andrej-shironov
                  To which Zu, as a realist, took a visor under the peak and found Grudinin.
                  Does this interpretation of events suit you?

                  A colleague, of course, that “siu” is a whistle to release steam from a boiling boiler ... but explain to me how Grudinin and his team are worse than Putin? request
                  1. andrej-shironov
                    andrej-shironov 30 March 2018 16: 30
                    0
                    smile Alex, I’m not against Grudinin, understand, I even think that he was used in the dark! Putin has only a team of oligarchs and liberal nouveau riche, who are now trying to manipulate the mass consciousness of the people.
                2. V. Salama
                  V. Salama 30 March 2018 19: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: andrej-shironov
                  smile .......
                  Does this interpretation of events suit you?

                  Absolutely not satisfied, because it does not correspond to reality. Regrettably, it looks, but in 1996, Sue did the right thing, not challenging the election results. The conditions were no longer the same, Chubais fussed and no one pulled his tongue (there is a video) clearly explained why it was too late to rush about - it was impossible to achieve the result anyway "the last nail was driven into the coffin of communism" (Chubais). In short, the conclusion: if Zyu had rested at that time, of course there would have been no civil war, but he would have been trivially banged, accusing him of attempting a putsch, for example, and the Communist Party was banned forever as an extremist organization. Zyu made a stupid move, although for many it is incomprehensible.
                  There is no desire to comment on the "take the visor", everything is in the public domain, listen to Boldyrev at least, he is not a communist. If primitive, it was an attempt to win the election, counting on the votes of supporters of an entire coalition of parties and it could be successful provided that fair elections were held. But as I understand it, you have an unshakable conviction in the opposite. Well, questions of faith are not discussed, I think so.
                  1. andrej-shironov
                    andrej-shironov 30 March 2018 20: 09
                    0
                    smile Of course I did it right! Who was willing to answer! And the fact that they banged well, so it is predictable from the Yeltsin government. By the way, modern is its continuation. Of course, to exaggerate the peak, of course, but all of our fake opposition is affiliated with the current Russian government and has solidly grown together. Otherwise, the country would have had other opposition actions. And not clowns like Navalny.
                    1. V. Salama
                      V. Salama 30 March 2018 21: 41
                      +1
                      Well, I wouldn’t fasten Navalny to Grudinin, although there are formal reasons for this. To the question of how he relates to Navalny, Grudinin answered as an experienced politician would have answered in such a situation (in anticipation of the election), like I would have found a place for him in the government, given its several useful qualities. Stalin also said: "I have no other ministers." And he successfully solved with the help of their task, not forgetting to tightly control. As for the "fake" opposition, I agree that there is one. But as for the Communist Party, I would not rank it as such. To what senility would power have come if there had been no opposition on its part. GDP still perceives Zu’s advice, so it seems. And the systemic opposition is therefore systemic because it is within the limitations of the existing system if it wants to remain systemic. In this capacity, she has more leverage, given the legal methods. But this is my subjective view, of course, I simply do not have information for any significant charges.
                      1. andrej-shironov
                        andrej-shironov 30 March 2018 21: 54
                        0
                        smile Vladimir, forgive the conclusion of the conclusions I do not agree! By the logic of your conclusions, it can be understood that the most important thing for the opposition is to remain SYSTEMIC, and I believe that the main task of the opposition is to be OPPOSITION. The system is formed by the power itself, and playing according to the rules of the dealer is obviously losing. Unfortunately, analyzing the facts, I come to the conclusion that in Russia there is no opposition, only business structures affiliated with the government from pseudo-opposition.
            2. businessv
              businessv April 3 2018 22: 30
              +1
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              Such technologies have long been used by various kinds of political strategists, not excluding the local site. Believe me, no conspiracy theories!

              Andrei, I’m not swooping around here, but in my free time from work and more: I’m non-partisan. Age is not an indicator of erudition - you indicated yours, apparently for this? I’m older and may surprise you, but I studied the technology of manipulating work, so I will dispel your mistake: Grudinin is a longtime friend of Zyuganov and not only him. Good man. how good a leader in our time of wild capitalism can be and an excellent business executive who has never changed his principles and point of view throughout his work. Therefore, he passed, as a single candidate, because of his consistency and constancy.
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov April 4 2018 08: 31
                0
                smile Vadim, I ask you to excuse me if I offended you with something or Grudinin, there was no such desire at all! hi Regarding age, I wrote it solely because of those who write about my maturity, or rather its absence, and yes, age is not only an indicator of not only erudition but also intelligence. However, I will say it again, an analysis of the facts shows that Grudinin was used blindly.
  15. Monarchist
    Monarchist 26 March 2018 09: 10
    +2
    I have said so many times that reporters switched to flashy Hurst style headlines a long time ago. Unfortunately, on our website, the authors do their best to use spectacular headlines in the style of the "yellow press" and after reading the headlines see this: excellent students flaunt new brand-name AKs, interestingly, stores are equipped with live ammunition, then some kind of stupidity
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 26 March 2018 10: 05
      +2
      The topic of headings and content has long been dealt with, as well as the placement of topical, requiring comments, materials on pages where this is either impossible, or additional and tedious registrations are required. All this is not so easily done by the VO administration.
  16. Monarchist
    Monarchist 26 March 2018 09: 25
    +1
    Quote: shinobi
    The effect of this operation will be as follows, the bulk will simply stop responding to any non-target information. Target infa, this is a type of sell-buy-change. For what this is done, exclude the bulk of the population from socio-political life. They were late for these elections. And yes , Hooray-patriotism actually has a very narrow audience. Most Internet users do not even read headlines that are not directly related to their hobbies.

    te without flashy headers us kerdyk? And in the next election, Ksenia will certainly win, and since this is how we all start shouting. You are likely to achieve a similar result with your cries: just in the "target info" I’ll sell, save, change, "it won’t do without a cry.
    And the headlines should be informative and not flashy.
  17. Mestny
    Mestny 26 March 2018 09: 30
    0
    There is an information war, we agree with the author.
    What does he offer, so worried about our "loss"?
    Yes, nothing unusual - hanging the disgusting label "cheers-patriotism" offers to immediately get rid of patriotism in general. That is, in simple terms, immediately stop resistance in this direction.
    Does the author read the foreign press? Does watching an American movie for example?
    The intensity of patriotism "for the United States" is such that we would only envy.
    This is a feature of the information war.
    Do we really need, according to the author, to abandon this for our part, and write only the "truth"?
    I can’t name a fool of the author. Remains a common enemy.
    Of those, apparently, Russian patriotism is beginning to root in expression. And the whole article is written strictly for the opportunity to throw another portion on the fan to the address of patriotism, and our Russian one.
    Recognizing a complete victory (which in itself unambiguously characterizes it) on all fronts of the liberal media, it is traditionally patriotic in the media.
    This is no different from the same tactics when watering any sphere of life in Russia, no matter what the matter is about space, the army, and education. About anything - everything is always bad for the prowlers, the authorities are doing everything wrong.
    And here - patriotism. Naturally, it is required in any way to discredit the idea itself. Where to begin? yes quotation usually, by hanging a label. For example, "cheers-patriotism." Some, not particularly smart clowns from themselves add to this nickname "Urya", spraying drool with pleasure.
    It won’t reach them that this method didn’t work. Patriotism is. And any antics of dissatisfied freedom fighters against him immediately transfer them to the category of clowns of one degree or another of stupidity and anger.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 26 March 2018 09: 37
      +14
      Patriotism is a comfortable living environment in the country, the fair distribution of the national product, the care of society for each member, the government serving the interests of the whole people, and not the people needed only to satisfy the "Wishlist" of the government, etc. This is the real upbringing of "patriotism" , but not the replacement of all this "cheers" in the media ....
      1. your1970
        your1970 26 March 2018 10: 44
        +2
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Patriotism is a comfortable living environment in the country, the fair distribution of the national product, the care of society for each member, the government serving the interests of the whole people, and not the people needed only to satisfy the "Wishlist" of the government, etc. This is the real upbringing of "patriotism" , but not the replacement of all this "cheers" in the media ....
        - tell me the place on Earth - where is this paradise described by you?
        1. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 26 March 2018 11: 58
          +3
          There is no ideal anywhere, but we must strive for this. For example, I once had a chance to visit Mont Blanc and at that time a whole flock of Swiss lovers of mountaineering tourists went there. And they took their flag from a backpack (rather large), stretched it and began to sing their anthem.
          Probably read patriotic articles in their media .... wink
          1. your1970
            your1970 26 March 2018 12: 22
            0
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            And they took their flag from a backpack (rather large), stretched it and began to sing their anthem.
            Probably read patriotic articles in their media ...
            - You still remember Ukraine or the United States ..... they also love this business very much ...
            I asked for the address - and you tell me about the flag / anthem / coat of arms
            1. Monster_Fat
              Monster_Fat 26 March 2018 12: 51
              +6
              And I mean, the Swiss themselves perform the patriotic anthem, obeying emotions, maybe they just have everything that is listed? Maybe they are happy with their country, without the imposition of “popular patriotism”? (Though our hockey players performed the same anthem themselves recently at the Olympics, then there in protest).
              1. your1970
                your1970 27 March 2018 09: 10
                0
                And Ukrainians have their own? When with a feeling? Not by coercion - but by conviction? There are a lot of such people there, several million at least ..
                What does this have to do with the "equitable distribution of the national product"?
                Okay, Ukraine is a difficult case, imposing problems of several centuries of development ...
                Is there a “fair distribution of the national product, public concern for every member of it, government serving the interests of the whole people”? Especially the last?
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 26 March 2018 11: 58
      +3
      Something you do not distinguish between patriotism and false patriotism.
    3. businessv
      businessv 26 March 2018 14: 46
      +1
      Quote: Mestny
      Do we really need, according to the author, to abandon this for our part, and write only the "truth"?

      IMHO, the author does not propose to write only the truth, but to do the same and mirror the rhetoric of the liberal press. For example, not the government of Ukraine, but the illegal government of the American colony near our borders.
    4. Sewer krainiy
      Sewer krainiy 26 March 2018 19: 00
      +2
      Does the author read the foreign press? Does watching an American movie for example?
      The intensity of patriotism "for the United States" is such that we would only envy.

      After the Vietnam War and antiwar actions in the USA, conclusions were drawn there. They took into service the patriotic education of the USSR, they slipped us theirs, which in the 90s some forces swallowed with pleasure. Now America is above all, we still sprinkle ashes on our heads.
  18. Bastinda
    Bastinda 26 March 2018 09: 41
    +10
    All these tales about two thousand American special forces, famously buried in the Eastern Gut by a Su-57 couple, about American submarines hopelessly stuck in the polar ice, about how we famously broke the Yellowstone volcano and about how Maria Zakharova broke all Western diplomacy into rags It seems that they have one purpose - to deprive even the appearance of credibility of the entire patriotic discourse and to develop persistent aversion to it as a whole.

    You are absolutely right! The arsenal of fairy tales is much wider. Here and there are no analogues in the world of weapons, nuclear-powered rockets, TU-160 conversion into a passenger, an unprecedented breakthrough in technology, economic growth, a magnificent victory in Syria, etc. And cheers patriots, all joyfully support it! Someone is trying to make smart people spit at the word patriot ... laughing
    Although even a schoolchild should be aware that armed rebels who seized state power by force do not have any legal authority to call and hold any elections.

    And here, Comrade Lenin, I would not agree with you. laughing
  19. NordUral
    NordUral 26 March 2018 09: 48
    +5
    There is a well-founded assumption that the so-called patriotic propaganda, which has now flooded the Internet, is a stupid special operation of the enemy. In order to completely discredit the very patriotic idea and instill in the readership a persistent aversion to the ideas promoted in such a bawdy way.

    Precisely, one often wants to read comments on VO.
  20. Altona
    Altona 26 March 2018 10: 01
    +5
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    It’s all wrong with them. And this is their motto: “they’re not reporting me” (like that tiger - meat, yeah).
    Something tells me that if the Union were now, as it were, they would shout (with about the same intensity) about the lack of sausage.

    ---------------------------------
    Imagine not reporting. And by the way, it’s not about “meat”. We are talking about the development of small towns, which even Putin spoke about by the way in the film. Yours Kashira, for example.
  21. Romka47
    Romka47 26 March 2018 10: 04
    +7
    I have long paid attention to the fact that there is something similar, and the author competently developed. put + article
  22. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 26 March 2018 11: 02
    +4
    "Khibiny - Cook - diapers - Uryayayayayayayayayaya !!!" The conditioned reflex is like that of Pavlov’s dog.
  23. Mengad
    Mengad 26 March 2018 11: 05
    +1
    Of course .. all the shoals .. can be blamed on the machinations of spies ... all stupid ... also spies hiding behind patriotic slogans laughing It feels like you already have a persecution mania wink
    Did spies do that too?




    True ignoramuses have always been, and will be. But whose are they? This question must be asked yourself.
    1. free
      free 26 March 2018 11: 46
      +2
      Quote: Mengad
      Of course .. all the shoals .. can be blamed on the machinations of spies ... all stupid ... also spies hiding behind patriotic slogans laughing It feels like you already have a persecution mania wink
      Did spies do that too?




      True ignoramuses have always been, and will be. But whose are they? This question must be asked yourself.

      Such ignorance is betrayal!
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 26 March 2018 21: 06
        +1
        What do you want? All these collages are made by Photoshop designers from the hipster frivolous party (well, there are vapes, spinners, gyro scooters, that's all). They have no idea how the T-34 differs from the Tiger or Sherman, and the Soviet form from the Nazi. They pumped up pictures from an Internet and draw.
  24. Click
    Click 26 March 2018 11: 07
    +7
    This is what happens, all local generals of the State Department help their patriotic cries with their cheers .. request but I think why, as soon as you start writing about real problems, they try to brand the State Department agent ... yes template break .. wassat and since there are no arguments to oppose the real state of affairs, they cling to the flag .. lol
    1. businessv
      businessv 26 March 2018 14: 36
      0
      Quote: Click
      something to oppose the real state of affairs, cling to the flag ..

      Dear, no one is against your flag, here we mainly express our thoughts on this or that issue, without blaming anyone for anything. And the real state of affairs can be contrasted only with real things that are not done here, but in life. I am pleased to read your vision of the problem that the author writes about, and not reviews about us, who are sick. hi
      1. Click
        Click 26 March 2018 18: 39
        0
        It seems to you that they don’t cling to the flag! I wrote about local generals, I don’t know how sideways you rank yourself in this category! request but I can’t write much here, otherwise again it will seem to someone.
  25. free
    free 26 March 2018 11: 44
    +1
    I agree with the article, but the author didn’t ask the main question. And he is like “Why so, who is responsible for this and what needs to be done?”.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 26 March 2018 12: 38
      +4
      And we, the people, are responsible for this, and for the fact that we are so trusting, lazy and do not want to think about the future of our children and grandchildren. The top has already taken care of their children. But the future of Russia and our children is a big question.
  26. free
    free 26 March 2018 12: 05
    +1
    From the same opera, the Yunarmia was dressed in the form of a NATO color, with maroon berets (one can’t just wear maroon berets), who invented this?
  27. Radikal
    Radikal 26 March 2018 12: 36
    +4
    It turns out that at a time when Russian President Vladimir Putin rightly speaks about the upheaval, unconstitutional nature of the current Kiev authorities, practically the entire Russian press uses in completely identical cases the terminology that legitimizes Kiev usurpers. Calling such, and without any quotes, not only as the president, head of parliament, deputies of the Verkhovna Rada and so on. Although even a schoolboy should be aware that the armed rebels, who seized state power by force, have no legal authority to call and hold any elections. From which it follows that all post-coup authorities in Ukraine are completely illegitimate.
    It is strange that the author of the article did not bother with the question, why did Putin recognize this coup and their president? winked
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 26 March 2018 13: 13
      +5
      We were not ready to turn off SWIFT, block all currency accounts of government agencies, government officials, the "circle of trust", "handshake oligarchs", etc. abroad ... And now they are "not ready ..."
    2. businessv
      businessv 26 March 2018 14: 25
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      It is strange that the author of the article did not bother with the question, why did Putin recognize this coup and their president?

      I think the author had in mind the use of words, expressions and definitions on Internet resources, and not political conflicts. For example, in the press and on TV, an independent Russia is not called an aggressor. LDNR militia - militants and terrorists, LDNR militias themselves - separatist territories, etc.
  28. Dashing
    Dashing 26 March 2018 13: 12
    +13
    I want to reassure the author of the article: our propaganda, as always, is more alive than all living things. Turn on the telly - everywhere and always tired - the indulgent Guarantor and his dear friends: they are building the Crimean bridge, charging tribute for plato and major repairs. And all faces are stern, preoccupied - all in thoughts of the people. If you switch the program a little, this is the advanced detachment of frantic propagandists: Solovyov, Kiselyov, Sheinin and others. They cut the truth about Syria, Ukraine, lynch Trump, bring Merkel and various other Macrons to the clear. And they persuade us to love our Motherland day and night. That's just about 22 million official rogues do not say - this is not in the PR plan, because the epics always have a good end.
    1. gennady.kazak
      gennady.kazak 26 March 2018 13: 56
      +1
      So for a long time no one pecks at your liberal propaganda. I understand - it's a shame, but then the liberal farted and lightened his soul.
    2. Yanakolos
      Yanakolos 26 March 2018 14: 08
      0
      There is a plan how to make the rogues rich? No. There is a plan how to implement this plan? No. We don’t know the history of our state, if we knew - we would have remembered that they had already broken twice (1917, 1990) because of the desire to make beggars rich. Or not so? But isn’t it? Yes, that's just alas: either wealth is constantly not enough for everyone, something else is going wrong.
      1. free
        free 26 March 2018 18: 48
        0
        And you understand the rich, do not want to share?
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 March 2018 20: 49
        0
        You can’t make the beggars rich, because they have chronic poverty syndrome.
    3. businessv
      businessv 26 March 2018 14: 27
      +4
      Quote: DARK
      I want to reassure the author of the article: our propaganda, as always, is more alive than all living things.

      He just means, IMHO, precisely "our" propaganda, which is essentially a liberal mouthpiece, wherever you look! And about Plato - it's you famously! Only in Russia - my mother is able to take fees on the road THREE! hi
      1. Dashing
        Dashing 26 March 2018 16: 50
        +3
        Wait a bit, dear businessv, they will raise taxes and levies on everything and everyone for the sake of love for the people of labor: Pass it on to Vladimir, us and FOUR NOW! ”In any case, Dvorkovich no longer sees anything terrible in raising VAT to 15%
  29. Yanakolos
    Yanakolos 26 March 2018 13: 47
    0
    WHo are you working for? whose mill are you pouring water on? Or overseas owners are trying to please more and more (disguising themselves well as caring for the truth in Russia) or your site no matter what to publish, or would you write?
    We can make the name more frank, for example VO from Rain. (shallow Emelya - your week. Water from the Rain)
    1. Dr. Hláva
      Dr. Hláva 26 March 2018 14: 24
      +2
      And you fool go to school and ask for money back, they didn’t teach you anything ...
      1. Dashing
        Dashing 26 March 2018 16: 35
        +3
        Thanks for the correct and intelligible comment. Unfortunately, I did not qualify for anything except mat for this lady. It’s hard that such creatures begin to rule the ball.
      2. free
        free 26 March 2018 18: 50
        0
        Quote: Dr. Hláva
        And you fool go to school and ask for money back, they didn’t teach you anything ...

        Strong!!!!!!!!! hi
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  31. Valery Saitov
    Valery Saitov 26 March 2018 13: 58
    0
    “Ukraine expelled the Russian journalist from the country because of the election.”)))
    And you at least rearrange the words in some places or by the method of sucking in other words, the answer is one-forcibly removed (expelled, deported, taken out, dragged out, etc.). After entering, no one sent it back, but intentionally let it go (the world media calmed ), and then she (only she) violated the structure of rampant power. So the author was in vain trying to convince us that we were zombie (and they say he was the right pretzel). And this is precisely what we are not losing the information war because we are aware of, and your site is just blocking (or distorting automatically) directly expressed expressions. Who can read between the lines will understand what I mean ....
    1. Dr. Hláva
      Dr. Hláva 26 March 2018 14: 15
      0
      Fuckers like you do not have the right to criticize honest people like Yuri Selivanov. Such souls as you let them go to hell ..
  32. tacet
    tacet 26 March 2018 14: 07
    +2
    What do you, dear author, think of people as primitive creatures who are not capable of minimal analysis of what they have read or seen (heard)?
  33. Koshak
    Koshak 26 March 2018 14: 07
    +1
    Well, a simple example. Even in the Soviet-German nonaggression pact of 1939. (Moscow Treaty of 1939) is called (for some reason?) The "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact." Unlike all other treaties, including the Munich agreement. Tolerant "fighters" instead of bandits, "executions" of hostages instead of murders ... am Let's call it right. yes
  34. Dr. Hláva
    Dr. Hláva 26 March 2018 14: 14
    0
    Congratulations to you Yuri Selivanov excellent !!! You have recognized by rules the enemy propaganda of Russian liberals and the nasty pests of Russia !! I just don’t understand why Russia and everyone who cares about the purity of the media space do not scrub this space with TRUTH and real facts ... following the example of the Russian president and how to take Vladimir ERMAKOVA from the Russian Foreign Ministry !! Please contact me at [email protected] I am from Bratislava ... thank you.
  35. shuravi
    shuravi 26 March 2018 14: 17
    +3
    Here's an example:
    2015, after a series of scandal with a photo on the day of victory, I accidentally go to the Kiev railway station in the main altar. I drew attention to the stand for May 9.
    And so:

    I don’t understand why not to fully apply the existing law to the final executor? And no, - I’m a bell girl and I don’t understand anything in tanks - should not be an excuse.
    You can’t, don’t take it.
  36. businessv
    businessv 26 March 2018 14: 20
    +2
    Thank you Yuri for the article and the topics raised! We have already discussed the headings, but we need to not only agree with this, but also to speculate in more detail on this topic.
    And this is only the smallest that can be said in response to the long-overdue question of why we are losing the information war.

    In my opinion, money is currently the main tool with which everything is solved. Resources riafan, inforeactor, rueconomics made like a carbon copy! On riafan, for example, Grudinin is still called the oligarch! In Russia, whatever the collective farmer, the oligarch! And this is despite the fact that the resources are federal, with “our” funds created! Therefore, it is impossible to disagree with the author about the free treatment of the writing fraternity with the words used, just like with their impact on the minds of inexperienced readers! Article plusanul! hi
  37. 4ybys
    4ybys 26 March 2018 14: 22
    0
    And I liked this calendar, do not care for Sherman and Roach there were many other cool posters. By the way there was also a calendar based on the White Sun of the desert, by the way pretty good. IMHO, the authors of these calendars, creating their crafts, did not climb into such high empireia as the author of this article, for which their crafts are appreciated by such simple and mundane individuals like me.
    1. Click
      Click 26 March 2018 19: 24
      +1
      So with you "brothers" EARTH a long time everything is clear lol
  38. akula
    akula 26 March 2018 14: 34
    +2
    Quote: Semen1972
    . Personally, I have ALL acquaintances for Putin, all with one wording: "Who, Saobchak or something"

    In Russian. You were taken to the show off and lit up like suckers. Indeed, the illusion of choice. Grudinin was also a dummy that would have chopped off the older generation of grandfather Zyuga. If you didn’t run for the elections, you would automatically have voted for Putin. So there was no choice, but there was an illusion of elections.
  39. udincev
    udincev 26 March 2018 14: 40
    0
    It is curious that a huge amount of pseudo-patriotic materials is published without any output at all, including even without the name of the author! Which rudely violates the elementary norms of civilized journalism, generates monstrous irresponsibility
    Tooting. I, in a sinful affair, thought that I alone saw it or was lingering to me.
  40. Sergey Enoktaev
    Sergey Enoktaev 26 March 2018 14: 42
    0
    So all the current comparisons began back in the last century. From where it stretches. A kind of all these opinions now serve as a collection of information for further actions. And shaved or not shaved, these are only actors who play a role from them completely independent. Mass media. People like an information element that has connections with foreign countries will always be in demand. Where is patriotism here? What is the dispute about?) Or they want to make a scapegoat out of it. So you won’t surprise anyone anymore, outrage ... People are aging and their thinking about the situation also fading into the past, sooner or later.
    As the hero of the cartoon said: Hands, feet ... The main thing is the tail!)
  41. Sergei3
    Sergei3 26 March 2018 15: 04
    +3
    laughing
    It’s possible and could be agreed with the author. "I must admit, this is a smart and promising tactic. Nowhere is there so much outright foolishness, idle talk and incompetence, as on the Internet resources of the so-called patriotic direction."
    If not for one thing, but unfortunately in the inform space of our television, the same picture :(
    Correctly said:
    Quote: Fox
    ... only these are not the machinations of the State Department, but they are trying their fools.
  42. samarin1969
    samarin1969 26 March 2018 15: 10
    +4
    To the author - respect. The fact that a pseudo-patriotic blizzard dominates does occur. And he defines the main "discourse". The illusion of the power of "statesmen-patriots" in the "RF" is supported. So it’s more convenient to manage the "electorate" .... for now.
    Both the “communists" of the 70-80s model and their successors of the present time will soon get tired of playing in "patriotism and social justice". ... Then brutal undisguised capitalism will come about which Skoropadsky wrote about. ...
  43. Radikal
    Radikal 26 March 2018 15: 12
    0
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    We were not ready to turn off SWIFT, block all currency accounts of government agencies, government officials, the "circle of trust", "handshake oligarchs", etc. abroad ... And now they are "not ready ..."

    That is - are not ready for anything? winked
  44. Radikal
    Radikal 26 March 2018 15: 14
    +3
    Quote: samarin1969
    To the author - respect. The fact that a pseudo-patriotic blizzard dominates does occur. And he defines the main "discourse". The illusion of the power of "statesmen-patriots" in the "RF" is supported. So it’s more convenient to manage the "electorate" .... for now.
    Both the “communists" of the 70-80s model and their successors of the present time will soon get tired of playing in "patriotism and social justice". ... Then brutal undisguised capitalism will come about which Skoropadsky wrote about. ...

    Like the quotes? Open your eyes - it has long come! sad
  45. Radikal
    Radikal 26 March 2018 15: 19
    +3
    Quote: DARK
    I want to reassure the author of the article: our propaganda, as always, is more alive than all living things. Turn on the telly - everywhere and always tired - the indulgent Guarantor and his dear friends: they are building the Crimean bridge, charging tribute for plato and major repairs. And all faces are stern, preoccupied - all in thoughts of the people. If you switch the program a little, this is the advanced detachment of frantic propagandists: Solovyov, Kiselyov, Sheinin and others. They cut the truth about Syria, Ukraine, lynch Trump, bring Merkel and various other Macrons to the clear. And they persuade us to love our Motherland day and night. That's just about 22 million official rogues do not say - this is not in the PR plan, because the epics always have a good end.

    yes good
  46. Radikal
    Radikal 26 March 2018 15: 22
    +1
    Quote: businessv
    Quote: Radikal
    It is strange that the author of the article did not bother with the question, why did Putin recognize this coup and their president?

    I think the author had in mind the use of words, expressions and definitions on Internet resources, and not political conflicts. For example, in the press and on TV, an independent Russia is not called an aggressor. LDNR militia - militants and terrorists, LDNR militias themselves - separatist territories, etc.

    What the author had in mind is reflected in his quote, which I inserted in my previous comment, and there is no need to defend him so awkwardly. wassat
  47. udincev
    udincev 26 March 2018 15: 23
    +1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    the state only when it deserves it.

    I agree with you with the amendment:
    The state should be worthy of the homeland (period).
    The power governing the state should be worthy of the people and accountable to him. Then everything will fall into place. Also IMHO.
  48. elenagromova
    elenagromova 26 March 2018 15: 24
    +2
    It seems that our resource just acts quite skillfully and correctly. And different topics, and different points of view, and vocabulary more or less ideologically correct. And liberal media has more resources by definition
  49. varakin_54
    varakin_54 26 March 2018 15: 36
    0
    Now I understand why it is designed only for Russians, they don’t know how to read in the West, but there’s nothing to think about. All west, stupid people b ..!
  50. Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov 26 March 2018 15: 41
    0
    Advocacy is a global factor in world politics, such as the military. An economical tool that ensures the national interests of the state. The goal is to discredit the opponent, change the mass consciousness in the right direction. What has been demonstrated to Russia around the world, in color revolutions.