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Will VKS protect our Far East? Past and Present 11 th Red Banner Army Aerospace Forces. H. 2

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In the second part of the review, we will try to analyze how the forces and means of air defense of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Far East are able to withstand potential aggression.


Currently, 8 C-300PS and two C-400 are deployed in the Primorsky and Khabarovsk Territories. And in the Jewish Autonomous Region and on Sakhalin - four divisions С-300В. The Kamchatka air defense knot, where there are two deployed C-400 battalions and one C-300PS, is too distant and isolated from the rest of the Russian Aerospace Forces, and in the event of the outbreak of hostilities will be forced to fight independently.


Layout of C-300PS, C-300В and С-400 positions in the Khabarovsk, Primorsky Territories, Sakhalin and Jewish Autonomous Regions

As part of the C-300PS mobile multi-channel anti-aircraft missile system, in addition to the means for detecting airborne targets and control, there can be up to four 5P85SD launch complexes, each of which consists of one main 5P85С launcher and two additional PU 5P85D. Each self-propelled launcher has four vertically launched missiles, sealed in transport-launch containers. The rate of fire - 3-5 seconds, at the same time can be fired at up to 6 targets 12 missiles when you hover on each target to two missiles.


Satellite image of Google Earth: C-300PS ground position in Knyaz-Volkonsky, 40 km north of Khabarovsk


In total, the firing position can be up to 48 anti-aircraft missiles ready for battle, but judging by the satellite imagery at our disposal, the combat duty of the C-300PS anti-aircraft missile division usually carries three or two launch batteries - thus, ready-to-use ammunition is 32 -24 rockets. Apparently, this is due both to the deterioration of the material part of the anti-aircraft systems built in 80-s, and the lack of 5B55P type missiles, the warranty period of which ended in 2013. However, this does not mean that these missiles can not be used for air targets, but after the warranty period of storage the technical reliability factor is reduced, that is, the launch of the missile can occur - tracking failure or untimely start of the cruise engine, which happened more than once during control. training launches at the landfill.

Will VKS protect our Far East? Past and Present 11 th Red Banner Army Aerospace Forces. H. 2


In the long-range air defense missile battalion, the long-range C-400 can be up to 12 towed 5P85TE2 or 5P85SE2 type launch vehicles. On each launcher on 4 SAM. That is, the ammunition of one anti-aircraft missile division is 48 missiles. Compared with the C-300P family, the C-400 combat capabilities have increased significantly. The C-400 controls are capable of simultaneously accompanying up to 300 air targets and to ensure the firing of 36 of them when launching 72 missiles. The command post of an anti-aircraft missile system is able to control the actions of other anti-aircraft missile systems and complexes. As part of the C-400 can be used SAM 48N6E, 48N6E2, 48N6E3 with a range starting 150-250 km and defeat up to 27 km used as part of the upgraded S-300PM1 / PM2 and new vysokomanovrennye missiles 9M96E and 9M96E2 with destruction zone to 135 km. Unfortunately, in the C-400 combat divisions ammunition, there is still no long-range 40H6E missile, which does not allow to fully unleash the potential of the anti-aircraft system.

The S-300V anti-aircraft missile system was developed as a front-line means of protecting ground forces from nuclear tactical and operational-tactical missiles and to intercept strategic, tactical and carrier-based cruise missiles and attack aircraft at distant approaches aviation. The variety of tasks caused the S-300V to use two missiles for various purposes: 9M82 - for hitting ballistic missiles and strategic bombers and jamming aircraft over long ranges and 9M83 - for hitting aerodynamic targets at ranges up to 100 km. In the modernized version of the S-300VM, the combat zone of combat aircraft and cruise missiles has been increased to 200 km. In 2015, information appeared on the adoption of the S-300V4 modification with a missile launch range of up to 400 km.



All C-300В combat vehicles are located on unified self-propelled high-tracked crawler chassis, equipped with unified autonomous power supply, navigation, orientation, topographic location, life support, telecode, radio and telephone communications.


C-300B Division on the march


The anti-aircraft system includes two self-propelled launchers 9А82 - with two 9М82 missiles and four SPU 9А83 - with four 9М83 missiles. For operation with SPU 9А82, one 9А84 two-rocket launcher installation is intended, and for SPU 9А83 - two 9А85 ROMs with four rocket. In addition to transporting and loading missiles, it is possible to launch missiles from the 9А84 and 9А85 ROMs when pairing with 9А82 and 9А83 combat vehicles. Thus, the ready-to-use ammunition of one S-CNUMXV is 300 missiles.

In addition to the units and formations of the 11 th Red Banner Army of the Aerospace Forces, the Eastern Military District has air defense forces of the Ground Forces. Although the combat potential of the air defense of the air defense of the SV after the removal of the C-300 A and part of the Buk air defense system was seriously damaged in the troops, there is still a significant number of mobile short-range air defense systems Strela-10 and Osa-AKM, ZSU-23 -4 Shilka and 23-mm paired anti-aircraft gun ZU-23. In addition, in each combined arms army (there are four of them in the Eastern District), there should be a zrbr equipped with the Buk air defense system.

In total, three Far Eastern fighter regiments have a total of a little over a hundred Su-27CM, Su-30М2, Su-35С and MiG-31 fighters. Su-27CM and Su-30М2 fighters have a combat radius with four missiles (2Х-27 and 2ХР-73) about 1000 km. In this case, the time of duty in the air with a full refueling is 4 hours.


Su-30M2 at the Dzemgi aerodrome (author photo)


The maximum range of launching the latest modifications of the P-27 missiles on oncoming courses is 95 km. But for guidance of a rocket from a semi-active GOS, target illumination by an onboard radar is required. P-73 missiles with a heat-cooled homing head are designed to hit air targets in close-range maneuver combat. The maximum launch range in the forward hemisphere can reach 40 km.


P-73 short-range air combat missile models on Su-27 fighter (author photo)


Compared with the Su-27CM and Su-30М2, the combat capabilities of the Su-35C fighters have increased significantly. The Su-35С avionics includes a radar with a passive phased antenna array H035 "Irbis", with a target detection range with an XRUM 3 ESR to 400 km. In addition to active radar facilities, a passive optical-location station is used that does not unmask the aircraft with radar radiation.


Su-35S fighter from 23-iap at Dzemgi airfield, on duty with suspended air-to-air missiles of medium-range RVV-SD

The Su-35C armament, in addition to the P-27 and P-73, included new medium-range missiles Р-77-1 (РВВ-СД) with monopulse Doppler AGSN. Unlike the P-27P, the P-77-1 does not require target illumination over the entire rocket flight path. The launch range is up to 110 km.

Three dozen long-range supersonic MiG-31 interceptors are based on the airfields of Primorye and Kamchatka. Part of the aircraft upgraded to the level of the MiG-31BM. The basis of the weapons control system of the MiG-31 aircraft is a pulse Doppler radar with a passive phased array of the RP-31 Н007 “Barrier” antenna capable of detecting a fighter or a cruise missile at a distance of 180 km. From 2008, the modernized MiG-31BM with the Zaslon-M radar, with a maximum detection range of air targets up to 320 km, arrive in the troops. An additional means of detecting airborne targets is the 8TP heat finder, with a range of up to 56 km.


Upgraded MiG-31BM 22-iap


The MiG-31BM airborne radar system is capable of simultaneously detecting up to twenty-four air targets, eight of which can be simultaneously fired at with P-33C missiles. Long-range missiles P-33С have a combined guidance system - inertial in the middle segment of the flight and semi-active radar with radio correction in the final segment. The launch range is up to 160 km. In a number of Russian sources there is information that the upgraded MiG-31BM interceptors carry long-range P-37 missiles (RVV-BD) with an active radar seeker. The maximum launch range in the forward hemisphere is up to 200 km. For MiG-31 with four missiles and two outboard fuel tanks, launching missiles in the middle of the way, dropping outboard tanks after their development, the practical range at subsonic flight speed is 3000 km.

Theoretically, in the first salvo, all anti-aircraft missile units deployed in the Far East, subject to their technical serviceability and combat readiness, can launch: C-300PS - 216-288 missiles, C-300В - 120 missiles, C-400 - 192 missiles. Total in the course of the reflection of the first massive attack, we have - to 552 missiles with the affected area to 90-250 km. Taking into account the fact that two anti-aircraft missiles are usually induced on one air target, in ideal conditions, in the absence of fire counteraction in the form of attacking anti-radar and cruise missiles with an autonomous guidance system and in a simple jamming environment, the probability of hitting around 0,9 can be fired at about 270 targets. However, this probability can be achieved against tactical and deck-based aircraft flying at nearsonic speeds at altitudes not lower than 200 m. Much more complicated targets are cruise missiles, which go around the terrain at low altitude. In this case, the probability of damage may be 0,5 - 0,7, which, in turn, increases the consumption of missiles. In addition, there is every reason to believe that at the first stage, the positions of radio engineering and anti-aircraft missile units, communications centers, headquarters, command and control stations and airfields will be subject to intensive strikes by anti-radar and cruise missiles. Until the enemy’s reconnaissance assets, and first of all, these are electronic reconnaissance aircraft and radar and optoelectronic reconnaissance satellites, which detect medium and long-range anti-aircraft systems, the enemy will refrain from using manned combat aircraft for bombing attacks to minimize losses. Already after the suppression of the air defense system, adjustable and free-fall bombs can be used. According to expert estimates, the Z-CNUMXP and C-300 ground-to-ground systems can destroy more than 400% of air targets in the affected area. At the first stage of the conflict, anti-aircraft and missile forces in a difficult jamming environment, being under fire attack of the enemy, will have to mainly fight with cruise missiles flying at low altitudes. At the same time, taking into account the complex terrain, detecting the KR and targeting them to missiles in some areas of the Far East can be difficult. It should also be understood that part of the old C-300PS missiles will fail after launch and the number of fired targets will be less. Knowing the number of combat-ready missiles of the first stage, based on the probability of destruction, a very good result can be considered the destruction of 120-130 air targets. However, in the event of a prolonged military conflict due to the inevitable loss and depletion of stocks of anti-aircraft missiles, there will be a decrease in the combat potential of anti-aircraft missile forces and fighter aircraft. Compared to the old C-400PS, the C-300 anti-aircraft missile battalions are more advantageous in protecting their firing positions from breaking through low-altitude air assault weapons, as they are covered by Pantsir-C1 self-propelled anti-aircraft missile systems.

Given that part of the combat aircraft is constantly under repair and in reserve, the command of the 11th A VKS will be able to allocate about 70 fighters to repel a massive raid, which is certainly not enough for such a vast territory. When performing the tasks of intercepting at the maximum combat radius and suspension of four medium-range air combat missiles and two melee missiles, it can be expected that the S-35C pair is capable of shooting down four enemy cruise missiles in one combat mission. However, the capabilities of the Su-27SK and Su-30M2, equipped with less advanced radar, in the ammunition of which there is no UR with AGSN, are much more modest. The number of upgraded MiG-31BMs as part of the 865th and 23rd IAP is relatively small, although these machines have quite high capabilities to counter not only cruise missiles, but also their carriers. There is no doubt that cruise missile launch vehicles will be covered by fighters until the launch line. At the same time, the enemy can be well informed about the air situation, since a significant number of AWACS aircraft are located in Japan and Alaska. At the same time, in the Far East there is no permanent basing of A-50 DRDO aircraft and Il-78 tankers, which significantly limits the capabilities of interceptors. The last time one A-50 aircraft was present in our area in September 2014, during a major exercise fleet, combat aircraft and air defense forces in Kamchatka. Apparently, this is due to the fact that in the Far Eastern region, you can count the fingers of the airfields where heavy aircraft can be based. Unlike front-line bombers, attack aircraft, and fighter jets, our radar patrol aircraft are not capable of operating from prepared sections of freeways.

So, in peacetime, the permanent locations of fighter air regiments and anti-aircraft missile units are well known; when a “special period” sets in, fighters should be scattered around field airfields, and anti-aircraft divisions should move to secret reserve positions. However, in the case of a surprise attack, this will be very problematic. In addition, north of Khabarovsk, the state and branching of the road network leaves much to be desired. Most of this territory - steep hills covered with taiga and marshy marshes - are absolutely impassable for heavy equipment. In addition, one should not overestimate the mobility of ground aviation units providing training and maintenance of combat aircraft, and the maneuverability of self-propelled elements of anti-aircraft missile systems. Like any weapon C-300 and C-400 have both advantages and limitations. The main 5P85С ZRS C-300PS launcher on the MAZ-543М chassis with four anti-aircraft missiles, separate missile launch preparation and control cabins and autonomous or external power supply systems with a 13 length and a 3,8 meter width has a mass more than 42 tons. It is clear that with such weight and dimensions, despite the four-axle base, the machine’s permeability on weak soils and various irregularities will be far from ideal. And all the C-400 systems available in the Far East are made in the trailed version, which, of course, is a step backwards in terms of mobility and will make relocation even more difficult.

The main potential adversary of the Russian Aerospace Force of the Russian Federation in the Pacific-Asian region is the Pacific Air Force Command with headquarters at Hikkam, Hawaii. The Pacific Command is: 5 (Japan), 7 (Republic of Korea), 11 (Alaska) and 13 (Hawaii) air armies. As part of the 5 Army Air Force with its headquarters at Yokota airbase, the 18-e wing was deployed at Kadena airbase as the main strike force. F-15C / D 44 and 67 squadrons are based here. Frequent guests at the airbase are the X-Numx generation F-5 Raptor fighters stationed permanently in Hawaii.


F-15C takes off from the airbase "Kadena"


Refueling squadrons in the air are provided by the KC-135R 909 squadron of tanker aircraft. Guidance on airborne targets and general guidance of combat aviation operations outside the zone of visibility of ground-based radars are assigned to the 961 squadron of the radar patrol and control unit equipped with DRLO and E-3С Sentry aircraft. The reconnaissance off the coast of Russia, the DPRK and the PRC are conducted by RC-135V / W Rivet Joint aircraft and long-range unmanned reconnaissance aircraft RQ-4 Global Hawk. Intelligence functions are also assigned to the base patrol aircraft P-8A Poseidon, P-3С Orion and radio intelligence reconnaissance aircraft EP-3E Aries II of the US Navy, which are located at the Kadena airbase. F-16C / D 35 th Fighter Wing is deployed at the Misawa airbase. It consists of 13-I and 14-I squadrons, whose main task is to provide air defense of American bases in Japan. The number of fighters in the squadrons stationed in Japan varies. So in the 44 Squadron - 18 single and double F-15C / D, and in the 14-I squadron - 36 light F-16C / D. In total, there are about 200 aircraft of the USAF at Japanese air bases. In addition, since October 1973, the Yokosuka naval base has been the site of a permanent forward deployment of American aircraft carriers. Since 2008, the Nimitz nuclear aircraft carrier - George Washington (USS George Washington (CVN-73)) has been located here. Recently, he was replaced on duty in Japan by the aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan (USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76)). Combat aircraft from aircraft carriers in the Yokosuka naval base for coastal deployment use the Atsugi air base in 7 km from the Japanese city of Atsugi.


Satellite image of Google Earth: 5 aircraft of the US Navy at Atsugi airbase


The airfield is home to the carrier-based aircraft of the 5 aircraft carrier wing. It consists of three F / A-18E / F Super Hornet fighter-assault squadrons, EA-18 Growler electronic warfare squadron, E-2C / D Hawkeye DRLO squadron, as well as deck transport aircraft and helicopters for various purposes. Thus, on the territory of Japan on a permanent basis there are about 200 combat aircraft of the Air Force and the US Navy, which is almost twice the number of Russian fighters stationed in the entire Far East. In addition to the American fighters in the Japan Self-Defense Air Force there are: X-NUMX heavy F-190J / DJ fighters, X-NUMX light F-15A / B (more advanced Japanese version of F-60), around 2 multi-purpose F-16EJ, and approximately RF-40 X-UNX XJUMX multi-purpose and RF-4 X-multipurpose reconnaissance aircraft EF-10EJ. Also in the United States ordered X-NUMX fighter F-4A. That is, taking into account the fleet of Japanese combat aircraft, the superiority over the Russian VKS in the region is fourfold.

The forces of the 7 Air Force stationed in South Korea are represented by the 8 Fighter Aviation Regiment - 42 F-16C / D at Kunsan Air Base, and the 51 Fighter Wing - 36 F-16C / D belonging to the 36 Fighter Squadry figure. -24C Thunderbolt II from the 10 th Fighter Squadron.

In Alaska, within walking distance of Chukotka and the Kamchatka Territory, the 11-th American Air Force is stationed. Her most efficient part is considered 3-th Fighter Wing, which included two fighter 90-I and 525-Squadrons on fighter F-22A, 962-Air Group of radar surveillance and control E-3S and 517-I military transport squadron C -17A Globemaster III. All these aircraft are located at the Elmendorf-Richardson airbase.


Satellite image of Google Earth: F-22A fighter aircraft at Elmendorf-Richardson airbase


The Eilson airbase is home to the X-NUMX th Fighter Regiment equipped with F-354C / D. In the event of an exacerbation of the situation, some of the fighters must be relocated to Shemiya Island, the Aleutian Archipelago. In the interests of the aviation contingent in Alaska, the KC-16R 135 of the tanker wing and the 168 of the military transport wing equipped with the C-176 Hercules, HC-130J Combat King II and C-130А are operating. In terms of strength, the strength of the US Air Force in Alaska is roughly equal to the Russian Fighter Park in the Far East.

The US Air Force base Andersen on Guam is operated by the 36-wing. Although there are no permanently assigned combat aircraft, are on a rotating basis based fighter F-15C and F-22A (12-16 units), unmanned reconnaissance RQ-4 Global Hawk (3-4 units), B-52N Stratofortress, B -1B Lancer, B-2A Spirit. Usually, 6-10 strategic bombers are on duty in Guam, but if necessary they can freely accommodate up to fifty heavy bombers. To provide long-range non-stop flights, fighters, strategic bombers and anti-submarine aircraft to Andersen are assigned 12 tankers KC-135R.

The F-15C and F-22A fighters, the KC-135R tankers, and the C-17A military transport vehicles belonging to the 15-wing and the 154-wing of the National Air Force wing are assigned to the Hikkam airbase in Hawaii. Although the Hikkam airbase is far enough away from the Russian Far East, it can be used as an intermediate airfield, and for basing tanker aircraft and long-range bombers. A constantly fighter-based fighters can be quickly deployed to Japanese air bases. Based on the above, it follows that even without taking into account the combat aircraft of Japan and South Korea, the X-NUMX of the F-400C / D, F-15C / D, F-16A and A-22C attack aircraft can be used against the Russian Far East. You should also add about 10 Deck F / A-60E / F Super Hornet here.

The AGM-158 JASSM cruise missiles in conventional equipment are B-1B, B-2A and B-52H bombers that are permanently present on the island of Guam, as well as F-16C / D, F-15E and F planes of tactical and carrier aircraft. A-18E / F. B-52H bomber can take 12 missiles, B-1B - 24 missiles, B-2 - 16 missiles, F-16C / D fighters, F / A-18E / F - 2 missiles, F-15E - 3 rockets


Reset of the AGM-158A JASSM cruise missile from the B-1В bomber


The AGM-158A JASSM cruise missile was developed by Lockheed Martin Corporation specifically for hitting point-mounted stationary and mobile targets covered by high-tech air defense systems. The rocket is equipped with a turbojet engine, made with elements of low radar visibility and carries a warhead weighing 450 kg. The shell of the warhead equipped with 109 kg of explosives made of high-strength tungsten alloy at a speed of 300 m / s can penetrate into the ground to a depth from 6 to 24 meters and punch reinforced concrete shelters of 1,5-2 meter. The possibility of using a cassette warhead is also provided. For guidance, an inertial system is used with the correction of the accumulated error according to the receiver of the signals of the satellite navigation system NAVSTAR. In the final segment of the flight trajectory, the IR GOS or software and hardware tools for autonomous target recognition using a pre-recorded image can be used. According to the manufacturer, the QUO is 3 m. With a length of 2,4 m, the rocket has a launch mass of 1020 kg and a flight distance of 360 km. Speed ​​on the route - 780-1000 km / h.


AGM-158A JASSM cruise missile


To date, Lockheed Martin has built more than 2000 KR AGM-158. In 2010, deliveries of the improved AGM-158B JASSM-ER CR began with a launch range of 980 km. At such a range, the launch of the rocket can be made from the carrier not only long before entering the C-400 ground-to-ground missile attack zone, but also outside the supersonic line for intercepting MiG-31 fighters.

However, AGM-158 is not the only type of cruise missile in service with the Air Force and the Navy and USMC. The armament of the B-52H bomber includes AGM-86C / D CALCM cruise missiles with a 1100 km launch range. One B-52H is capable of carrying up to 20 KR.


Reset CG AGM-86 from a B-52H bomber


A cruise missile with a launch weight of up to 1950 kg can be equipped with a warhead weighing 540-1362 kg with a programmed detonation point. Although the first AGM-86 entered service in the early 80-x, thanks to the phased modernization, they still represent a fairly effective weapon. Missiles equipped with conventional warheads have an inertial guidance system Litton with 3 generation GPS satellite navigation corrected signals with high noise immunity. The circular deviation from the aiming point is 3 m. The speed is 775 — 1000 km / h (0,65-0,85 M). Flight altitude control is performed using a radio or laser altimeter. The most perfect at the moment modification of the AGM-86D CALCM Block II quickly deployed in the 2002 year. As of 2017 year in the USAF there was about 300 KR AGM-86C / D.

US Navy F / A-18C / D, F / A-18E / F, P-3C, P-8А aircraft are capable of hitting land targets with AGM-84 SLAM missiles. This rocket is based on the AGM-84 Harpoon PCR, but has a different guidance system. Instead of the active RGSN in SLAM, an inertial system with GPS correction and the possibility of remote TV is used. In 2000, the AGM-84H SLAM-ER, which is a deep processing of AGM-84E SLAM, was adopted. The rocket's aerodynamic design has been completely revised. Instead of the previous X-shaped short wings inherited from the "Harpoon", SLAM-ER received two low-lying elongated wings, made according to the "reverse gull" scheme. The wingspan reaches 2,4 m. Due to this, it was possible to significantly increase the lifting force and flight range. When creating the SLAM-ER, considerable attention was paid to reducing the radar visibility of the rocket.


KR AGM-84Н SLAM-ER


The missile guidance system has also been modified. SLAM-ER can independently identify the target according to the data previously stored in the on-board computer of the rocket and does not need operator participation. The possibility of remote control, however, remains, so that the operator can intervene at any time in the process of guidance. The 675 kg missile is equipped with a 225 kg warhead and is capable of hitting targets at a range of 270 km. Flight speed - 855 km / h. In addition to the naval aviation aircraft of the KR, the SLAM-ER was introduced into the F-15E Strike Eagle armament.

The AGM-88 HARM anti-radar missile is intended specifically for the destruction of the guidance stations of the air defense missile system, air defense systems and surveillance radars. According to data published by the manufacturing company Raytheon Corporation, the PCR of the AGM-88C modification is capable of targeting radio sources operating in the 300-20,000 MHz band.


Start AGM-88 HARM with F-16C


A solid-fuel rocket with a launch weight of 360 kg carries a 66 kg warhead and is capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 150 km. Maximum flight speed - 2280 km / h. The last modification of the AGM-88E AARGM, commissioned in 2012, was equipped with satellite navigation equipment, in addition to the passive radar GPS, with remembering the coordinates of the radio source and on-board millimeter-wave radar, with which precise targeting is performed.

In addition to air-launched cruise missiles, the RGM / UGM-109 Tomahawk maritime cruise missiles pose a great danger to the coastal areas. These missiles were widely used in all major military conflicts involving the United States in the 21 century. As of 2016, the year in the US Navy can be simultaneously installed around 4600 KR “Tomahawk” on more than 120 surface and underwater media. At the moment, the most modern is the KR RGM / UGM-109E Tactical Tomahawk. Inertial guidance, TERCOM system and GPS navigation are used for flight control. There is also a two-way satellite communications system that allows you to retarget a rocket right in flight. The image obtained from the onboard camera allows you to assess the state of the target in real time and decide on the continuation of the attack or strike on another object. The launch range of about 1600 km allows launching Tomogawks at a considerable distance from the interception lines and the zone of destruction of our coastal anti-ship complexes. The rocket is equipped with a cluster or high-explosive warhead with a mass of 340 kg, and on the route it develops speed up to 880 km / h. Circular Probable Deviation - 10 m. As part of the American 7 fleet duty forces there are always carriers capable of ensuring the launch of sea-based cruise missiles 500.

In addition to the proximity of the bases of the Air Force and the US Navy, which pose a potential danger to our Far Eastern territories, Russia has a long border with China. At the moment, we have normal relations with China, but not the fact that it will always be like this. After all, no one in the middle of 50 could assume that in 15 years the situation on the Soviet-Chinese border would become so acute that it would take to use heavy artillery and multiple launch rocket systems. Even now, despite the chatter about strategic partnership, the “strategic partners” not only do not rush to enter into any military alliances with us, but also refrain from actively supporting Russia in the international arena. At the same time, there is an intensive buildup of military power in the PRC, and military expenditures increase annually. Contrary to the optimistic statements of our "patriots" about the backwardness of Chinese military aircraft, it is a rather formidable force. Already, the PLA Air Force has more than 100 upgraded H-6 long-range bombers capable of carrying CJ-10A cruise missiles with a range of about 1000 km. Outdated Q-5 ground attack aircraft are being replaced by JH-7A fighter-bombers, which have already been built at least 200 units. In the segment of modern light fighter jets stands J-10 (around 350 aircraft).


Chinese light fighter J-10


Twin-engine heavy fighters in the PLAC Air Force are represented by: Su-27SK (40 units), Su-27UPK (27 units), Su-30МК (22 units), Su-30МКК (70 units), Su-35С (14 units), Su-11С (X-NNUMXМКК (30 units), Su-200С (11 units), Su-150С (XNNX units), Su-8С (XNNX units), Su-300C (X-NNXX units) .). In addition, J-7В aircraft are being built at the aircraft plant in Shenyang, which have a lot in common with the Russian Su-21MK. At the moment, more than 400 J-1800 fighters of their own construction have been operated in China. Also still in the ranks around 2 interceptors J-3 and intelligence officers built on their base. In the rear and training aviation regiments, approximately X-NUMX lightweight J-7 fighter jets (the Chinese equivalent of the MiG-6) are operated. Chinese naval aviation has even more 78 combat aircraft. Thus, in the Air Force and the PLA Navy aviation, about 2000 combat aircraft are in service, of which 200 / 500 are modern. A significant part of Chinese fighters and percussion machines are equipped with filling rods. Refueling in the air is assigned to the JH-154 and H-8 aircraft of early versions and Russian-made IL-XNUMX. To control the actions of Chinese aviation and the timely detection of targets, two dozen DRLO KJ-XNUMX, KJ-XNUMX and KJ-XNUMX airplanes can be used. Conducting electronic intelligence assigned to the Tu-XNUMXMD and Y-XNUMXG. The “strategic ally” radio intelligence reconnaissance aircraft regularly fly along the Russian border in the Far East.

Given the multiple numerical superiority of the potential adversaries, our air defense forces in the Far East may not cope with the abundance of very difficult to attack air attack weapons. The positions of the C-400 ZRS under Nakhodka, Vladivostok and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky are not far from the coast, and in the conditions of difficult jamming conditions and a large number of potentially dangerous air targets, few anti-aircraft missile divisions can be suppressed after the use of ready-to-use ammunition. Guidance and control of interceptors will be difficult due to strong radio interference and attacks on radar posts and control points. The air base with capital runways is also inevitably subjected to a powerful fire attack.

In the event of an escalation of tension in the Far East, additional forces may be transferred here from the western regions of the country. But these reserves are not so great that they would have a noticeable impact on the balance of power. In addition to Moscow, St. Petersburg and some other territories, the rest of the country is very poorly covered from air strikes. The deliveries of new equipment and weapons, which began about 10 years ago, have not yet allowed to eliminate the gaps formed in the Air Force and Air Defense during the years of "reform". Transfer fast-range anti-aircraft systems from the central part of the country does not work. At best, this will take about a week, even though Transsib is very vulnerable. More mobile are the fighter regiments, but as already mentioned, the 2 / 3 of the capital airfields built during Soviet times are currently unsuitable for use, and it may happen that the existing fighters simply have nowhere to land.

As you know, the best means of defense are your own Tanks at the enemy’s airfield. However, a series of concrete-piercing bombs precisely laid down on hangars with aircraft and the runway is also very effective. However, our capabilities regarding the impact of non-nuclear means on the air bases of Japan and Alaska are very modest. Front-line bombers Su-24M and Su-34 of the 277th base based on the Khurba air base, and Su-30MS of the 120th air regiment from the Domna air base, taking into account how well the territory of Japan is covered by the MIM-104 Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems and how many F-15C interceptors are there, there are few chances to strike back, even when using X-59M guided missiles with a launch range of more than 200 km. Until 2011, two regiments of Tu-22M3 missile carriers were based in the area of ​​Sovetskaya Gavan and not far from Ussuriysk. These vehicles carrying X-22 supersonic cruise missiles were considered by a potential adversary as a serious threat to aircraft carriers and coastal airfields. However, in 2011, our top military-political leadership decided to liquidate naval missile-carrying aircraft. After that, aircraft capable of rising into the air were overtaken to the central part of the country, and the rest of the Tu-22M3 that were in need of repair were "disposed of". Currently, in the Russian Aerospace Forces in flight condition there are about three dozen Tu-22M3. But since the KR X-22 is outdated and has exhausted its resource, only free-falling bombs are in the armament.

Long-range bombers of the Tu-95MS 182 Guards Heavy Bomber Aviation Regiment deployed at the Ukrainka Air Base in the Amur Region can be used to attack enemy air bases. The armament of the modified Tu-95MS includes the X-101 long-range cruise missile. According to information published in the Russian media, a cruise missile with a mass of 2200-2400 kg is capable of delivering an 400 kg warhead to a range of more than 5000 km. A missile equipped with a combined guidance system can be re-targeted in flight after being dropped from the carrier, and on tests demonstrated accuracy of hitting around 5 m. However, the number of Tu-95MS equipped with CU X-101 is relatively small and long-range bombers will require fighter cover in combat missions in case of action on targets in Japan, South Korea and Guam.

Based on the above, it is clear that the 11-I Red Banner Army of the VKS is not able to compete on equal terms with the aircraft of the United States, Japan and China, and will be able to conduct mainly defensive military operations. In case of a conflict, the forecast is seen as unfavorable. Our potential adversaries in the Far East have much more resources and are able to multiply their strengths. Due to the remoteness from the central regions of the country, the insufficient number of large airfields, vulnerability and low capacity of transport communications, the transfer of our reserves to the Far East looks very problematic. In these conditions, the only solution to avoid the defeat of our troops and the destruction of the structure of life support of the population and industrial potential is the use of tactical nuclear charges, which will allow to devalue the numerical superiority of the aggressor.

PS: All the information presented in this publication is obtained in open and public sources, a list of which is given.

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  1. Borik
    Borik 27 March 2018 15: 17
    +5
    If we consider this article in the context that the Yankees and the Chinese unite, then of course the scribe will come.
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga 27 March 2018 15: 21
      +18
      Quote: Borik
      If we consider this article in the context that the Yankees and the Chinese unite, then of course the scribe will come.

      Fortunately, this is hardly possible. The danger for the Far East in the first place is that the population is massively fleeing from the region. This is due to the harsh living conditions, low wages, high prices and lack of prospects.
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        1. zyablik.olga
          zyablik.olga 27 March 2018 16: 39
          +11
          Quote: Nikodim ATO
          Olga and you have already adjusted to China ?! or are you broadcasting from China?

          Where are you from?
          In Komsomolsk-on-Amur, the population from 330 000 people in 1991 year was reduced to 250 000 thousand. Is this funny?
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 28 March 2018 00: 46
            +5
            Quote: zyablik.olga
            In Komsomolsk-on-Amur, the population from 330 000 people in 1991 year was reduced to 250 000 thousand. Is this funny?

            Olya, you are well done. You raised a very sharp topic. Everything is correct. The situation is the same in the Amur Region: According to the Federal State Statistics Service, the population of the region is 798. (424). The population density is 2018 people / km² (2,21). The urban population is 2018 [67,37]%, and thirty years ago it was about one and a half times more.
            Quote: zyablik.olga
            In Komsomolsk-on-Amur, the population from 330 000 people in 1991 year was reduced to 250 000 thousand. Is this funny?

            Olya, not for your opponent: the Chinese are fleeing. Previously, they came to earn money, and after the collapse of the ruble on December 16.12. 2014, the number of Chinese people fell sharply. In the south of the Amur region, due to C / X; Railway, spaceport, the population still somehow hold on. and in the north the same problems as throughout the Far East. We are now celebrating the Peoples of the North and the same problems. Yakuts, Evenks leave their native places.
            1. Mihail28
              Mihail28 29 March 2018 14: 35
              +3
              And from the Jewish region, the last Jew escaped in the last century.
              1. Romulus
                Romulus 31 March 2018 18: 00
                0
                Quote: Michael28
                And from the Jewish region, the last Jew escaped in the last century.

                good Sergey (Bongo) let flood but funny ..
                Was there a boy? (C)
            2. Valery Saitov
              Valery Saitov April 5 2018 13: 03
              0
              Yakuts, Evenki leave their native places.)))
              Is it really in the USA? Or in Moscow? According to the results of the 2002 census, 35 Evenks lived in the Russian Federation. According to the 527 census, 2010 Evenks lived in Russia.
              1. Amurets
                Amurets April 5 2018 13: 42
                +2
                Quote: Valery Saitov
                Yakuts, Evenki leave their native places.)))
                Is it really in the USA? Or in Moscow? According to the results of the 2002 census, 35 Evenks lived in the Russian Federation. According to the 527 census, 2010 Evenks lived in Russia.

                No to the city for the construction of gas and oil pipelines. "Reindeer breeders worry: after graduation, young people don’t want to continue the craft of their ancestors, choose an office style, go to the cities. Oleg Safronov, for example, now works as a crane operator. But he was going on vacation to his parents' camp. The guy mastered riding a reindeer in elementary grades so that the future wife, says, frequent romantic walks in the taiga are provided. " http://gtrkamur.ru/news/2018/03/26/25198
              2. Bongo
                April 7 2018 13: 53
                +1
                Quote: Valery Saitov
                Yakuts, Evenki leave their native places

                And the Yakuts and Evenki live in the Khabarovsk and Primorsky Territories? No. Compare the DFO area with the area of ​​the Moscow region, as well as the number of residents in these territories.
          2. Romulus
            Romulus 31 March 2018 18: 05
            +3
            Quote: zyablik.olga

            10
            zyablik.olga (Olga) March 27, 2018 16:39 ↑
            Quote: Nicodemus ATO
            Olga and you have already adjusted to China ?! or are you broadcasting from China?

            Where are you from?

            MMM .. Olga, I’m from the time of Diana Ilina, I’m wary of the ladies on the site .. but reading your posts - I take off my hat hi
            1. zyablik.olga
              zyablik.olga April 1 2018 12: 54
              +2
              Quote: Romulus
              MMM .. Olga, I’m from the time of Diana Ilina, I’m wary of the ladies on the site .. but reading your posts - I take off my hat

              Egor, hello. It’s not me so clever, it’s just that the urya-patric fools through the efforts of our media divorced Nemer. Besides, Seryozha (Bonggo) is my husband, and if I don’t understand why, then there is always someone to turn to.
      2. nikoliski
        nikoliski April 21 2018 01: 09
        -1
        The Chinese are already capturing it, as the Albanians at one time Kosovo, just when they will be much more than the Russians, they will separate themselves like Kosovo from Serbia and that’s all (well, or they will hold their a la Crimean referendum, where most Chinese certainly want to join the PRC - I even think that the "yellow men" from China will be sent, not for nothing that they consider Primorye to be their original lands (looking at the section of the eyes of the indigenous population, I have no doubt about this)
    2. Nicodemus ATO
      Nicodemus ATO 27 March 2018 15: 45
      +3
      in the first place no one will unite, in the second the scribe has already arrived ... the ground forces have almost all withdrawn to the European part, there is air defense with a few airplanes + navy. further. the Chinese with their equipment, and all of them, instead of Russian forces withdrawn by the echelons not only in the territory given by Putin for 49 years. Oz. Baikal is already in the paws of China, they are buying up land around and signed !!! contract))) it’s already ridiculous to pump water to china. Now the question is ???? as will reflect the attack of the ground forces of china Russian air defense ..)))
      1. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 27 March 2018 18: 02
        +3
        Quote: Nikodim ATO
        in place of the withdrawn forces of Russia, the echelons are rooted by the Chinese with their equipment, and all of them. and not only to the territory given away
        Yes, yes, the daughter of an officer, all were captivated by the Chinese, we pay tribute, etc. Bad with the training manual, daughter of the officer, work - do not try. :)
  2. Tahtvjd2868
    Tahtvjd2868 27 March 2018 15: 48
    +4
    "Based on the foregoing, it is clear that the 11th Red Banner Army of the VKS is not able to compete on equal terms with the aviation of the United States, Japan and China" - conclusion fellow . ONE of our 11th Army is NOT ABLE to compete with the US Air Force, Japan and / or China! Well, she actually is not alone in opposing them! But what about the fleet with its own air defense, military forces with its own + Siberian air defense and others? What kind of scenario is this in which ALL PLAA Air Force confronts One Unfortunate 11th?
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga 27 March 2018 16: 42
      +12
      Quote: Tahtvjd2868
      But what about the fleet with its air defense, SV with its + Siberian military district and others?

      Edward, and where do you live? Have you seen what KTOF turned into? And whether there were in the Far East? May come to us this summer in your car, see what road leads to the Far East.
      1. KKND
        KKND 27 March 2018 18: 34
        +2
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        look which road leads to the Far East.

        And why do you need roads, it remains to bring the "fools" and the Far East will be invincible. wassat
        1. Bongo
          28 March 2018 05: 33
          +5
          Quote: KKND
          And why do you need roads, it remains to bring the "fools" and the Far East will be invincible.

          Fools, unfortunately in abundance ... recourse Including among those who argue that the attack on the Far East is excluded in principle.
      2. Nehist
        Nehist 27 March 2018 19: 22
        +5
        Not sure if he will get in our directions. As you know, there are no roads in our region
      3. Tahtvjd2868
        Tahtvjd2868 28 March 2018 15: 30
        -1
        Khabarovsk - the Far East. Prior to that, he worked in Vladik, lived in the village of Trudovoy and personally observed the aviation of the Navy with Central Angular on a daily basis. wink
        1. Bongo
          28 March 2018 16: 06
          +1
          Kohl are familiar with our realities and you know the state of the transport network. Why do you write this?
          How do you intend to quickly transfer reserves with heavy weapons along the Trans-Siberian Railway? In general, how are things going with air defense in Siberia? Do you imagine? How many do you have in your ranks are medium and long range air defense systems, and how many of them are less than 10 years old? Well, as for the capabilities of the Pacific Fleet to counter enemy aircraft, then things are even sadder than with air defense and the Air Force. Naval Aviation in Primorye, only in Nikolaevka.
          1. nikoliski
            nikoliski April 21 2018 01: 27
            0
            The Chinese have a population of 400 billion (in fact, more, in the villages, so as not to pay a fine for 3 children, they just don’t say that he was born), just to count the Chinese spending every second takes several thousand days (and even without sleep, just mechanically count , years have already been obtained, during this time tens of millions more will be born in those cities that have already been “counted”) in addition, there are more men than women in China, and much more than 180 million official difference (this is more than all of Russia + Ukraine can be added) so 180 million set swarm (I mean that they will not find a wife in the country) young men, yes give everyone an automatic machine, they will take all of Siberia directly by bus (we won’t let voivods across our own territory and we’ll be afraid of China, if they answer, they’ll definitely destroy us everybody, and even after killing 400 million they still have a billion!) so you don’t have to count how many s-300 there is our drunk Siberia with trampled faith, with children drug addicts who are infected with HIV, through a needle already in 15 years, this is not He will save, and China will come, he will clean everything up and lead this madhouse to a normal life ( by the way, they have hundreds of executions, which is probably why there are fewer murders in China than ours, people live in order, and in our abandoned villages they are in a drunken stupor ... Litter for gloom, but I look at drunk and just ashamed of our people where we are are we rolling? maybe China is worthy of us, but we, as pagans of Carthage who sacrificed children to demons, should be destroyed? Athos elders say that abortion is the same sacrifice to moloch, only modern, and Russia has 1 place per capita for them ... It’s estimated that if Khrushchev didn’t allow abortions, our population would now be larger than in the USA (say Indonesia, which never allowed them, having only 19 million people at the beginning of the century, compared to 70 million in Russia, is now 270 million in Indonesia and the fact that we will soon begin to be squeezed out of the land is the law of nature (play the strategy, if peasants have you are few, then there is no economy, but there is no economy mics cannot succeed in the war, the neighbors of an alien civilization will come and take away your resources - wood, metal, oil, gold)
      4. Tahtvjd2868
        Tahtvjd2868 28 March 2018 15: 57
        0
        Twice a year I go from Khabarovsk to Vladik. Daroga is like a road. And the Ussuriysk-Vladivostok section did not please you?
        1. Bongo
          29 March 2018 02: 48
          +1
          Quote: Tahtvjd2868
          Twice a year I travel from Khabarovsk to Vladik.

          happy for you.
          Quote: Tahtvjd2868
          Daroga as a road. And the site Ussuriisk-Vladivostok than you did not please?

          And the transport message goes only on this site? No. You are in the direction of Komsomolsk and a ride north.
    2. Yar_Vyatkin
      Yar_Vyatkin 30 March 2018 00: 21
      +2
      And so always with such "analyzes". Russia must fight with one finger, without involving any other armies, or other districts, nor fleets, nor the giant arsenal of tactical nuclear weapons, nor anything at all. Maneuver forces and means canceled, the system of double-based and other things - too. Well, intelligence, of course, a few months before the event did not reveal the situation, but at the very top all the reports were put on the shelf. And how else, then? And then because the article does not boil nightmarish))))
      1. Bongo
        30 March 2018 09: 00
        +1
        Quote: Yar_Vyatkin
        And so always with such "analyzes". Russia must fight with one finger, without involving any other armies, or other districts, nor fleets, nor the giant arsenal of tactical nuclear weapons, nor anything at all.

        Do you forgive both parts carefully read before writing comments? About such good in the first part of the comments said:
        Quote: Fitter65
        It's like a humanitarian program to reason with dumb, type-you can not do a simple analysis of reality ...
  3. Amurets
    Amurets 27 March 2018 15: 50
    +6
    In addition, north of Khabarovsk, the state and ramification of the road network leaves much to be desired. Most of this territory - steep hills covered with taiga and swampy mari - absolutely impassable for heavy equipment
    Sergei. Why are you shy? Most of the territory of the Far East is such.
    This is not the coolest landscape,
    1. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 28 March 2018 02: 39
      +5
      Already not the coolest. Over the past 10 years, ALL of this forest was cut down and taken to China.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 28 March 2018 03: 29
        +4
        Quote: Vladivostok1969
        Over the past 10 years, ALL of this forest has been cut down and exported to China.

        NOT cut down and not taken out. The Chinese do not need a rotten marsh moss, but according to BAM, yes, there are logging operations right now.
        1. Vladivostok1969
          Vladivostok1969 28 March 2018 04: 36
          +3
          You were not in the north of the coastal region. There are bare hills
      2. Bongo
        28 March 2018 05: 36
        +4
        Quote: Vladivostok1969
        Already not the coolest. Over the past 10 years, ALL of this forest was cut down and taken to China.

        Around Komsomolsk is also such a picture. Wood cut mercilessly, okay yourself, so also let the Chinese.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 28 March 2018 06: 00
          +4
          Quote: Bongo
          Around Komsomolsk is also such a picture. Wood cut mercilessly, okay yourself, so also let the Chinese.

          Sergey has such a picture everywhere in the Amur Region, too.
      3. nikoliski
        nikoliski April 21 2018 01: 31
        0
        The territory of Russia is 17 million square kilometers of which more than 8 million is a forest! (More than the whole of Western Europe, for example, several times) so that not everyone was cut down and taken out
  4. Tahtvjd2868
    Tahtvjd2868 27 March 2018 15: 58
    +2
    In general, a blow to our Far East is a blow to milk! There are no vital centers here, the destruction of which will make it possible to win the war. Scenarios of Germany in 1941 type get to the Urals and that’s enough for us - they showed that the answer can fly from the other side of the Urals. Moreover, both with European and Asian. Any PLA advance from February to December will get stuck in the swamps, which are dark on this side of the Amur River. Almost continuous swamps of varying degrees of swampiness. Heavy equipment will not work. A more or less deep blow will be in winter from December to the end of February, but all life here is only in the Trans-Siberian region - continuous Taiga to the north, there are no people there either ..
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga 27 March 2018 16: 44
      +9
      Quote: Tahtvjd2868
      In general, a blow to our Far East is a blow to the milk! There are no vital centers, the destruction of which will allow to win the war.

      You were not interested in the importance of the Far East in the country's defense. To remind you, where, for example, they build Su-35С?
      1. Nehist
        Nehist 27 March 2018 19: 25
        +7
        What for? They are not interested in the fact that the main plant of the Design Bureau named after Sukhoi is located in the Far East, but PAK-FA (Su-57) can be proud of it.
      2. Tahtvjd2868
        Tahtvjd2868 28 March 2018 15: 52
        -1
        Destruction of KNAAPO war does not win! Think broader! The meaning of my post is that China DOESN’T HAVE SENSE to strike at the Far East and it is even more stupid to oppose to all PLA air forces (others it’s even stupid to consider) our 11th air force army. To start a war with a very strong enemy (RF) being 4-5tys.km away from its main production centers, advancing along the swamp mari or in the deep taiga, constantly getting apleukha in the form of tactical nuclear weapons is not very reasonable ..
        And for the supporters for the T-50 supper and its importance, I’ll answer simply - the plant will be destroyed in the first hour of the operation. It just won't be there. And what is all? RF capitulates ?? ))) Himself is not funny ???
        1. Bongo
          28 March 2018 16: 11
          +5
          Quote: Tahtvjd2868
          Starting a war with a very strong adversary (RF) being behind 4-5tys.km from its main production centers, advancing along a marsh or taiga forest, constantly getting apluochi in the form of tactical nuclear weapons is not very reasonable.

          You will return to the beginning of the publication. No need to attack anyone. It is enough to knock out energy in the winter in the Far East and most of the already small population will simply freeze.
          1. Tahtvjd2868
            Tahtvjd2868 30 March 2018 14: 34
            -1
            By your logic, China will take to hell all the TPPs and state district power stations and will wait until the population freezes? laughing Why do you always limit your thought to some kind of boundaries? Can you describe the situation in which China or Japan will push the Far East by military means?
            1. Romulus
              Romulus 31 March 2018 18: 08
              +3
              Quote: Tahtvjd2868

              0
              Tahtvjd2868 (Edward) Yesterday, 14:34 ↑
              By your logic, China will take to hell all the TPPs and state district power stations and will wait until the population freezes?

              Do you think he’ll come and feed him cookies?
    2. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 28 March 2018 02: 41
      +6

      2
      Tahtvjd2868 (Edward) Yesterday, 22:58 PM New
      In general, a blow to our Far East is a blow to milk! There are no vital centers here, the destruction of which will win the war

      But nothing that we live here?
      1. Romulus
        Romulus 31 March 2018 18: 14
        +3
        Quote: Vladivostok1969
        But nothing that we live here?

        For a country with a 2-year history, we accidentally entered ... 150 years .. sorry, this is not because I will not seem like a patriot .. that’s how the Han people think - Chinese Orthodox hi
        1. Amurets
          Amurets April 1 2018 10: 26
          +1
          Quote: Romulus
          For a country with a 2-year history, we accidentally entered ... 150 years .. sorry, this is not because I will not seem like a patriot .. that’s how the Han people think - Chinese Orthodox

          Well, here you can argue. The right bank of the Amur is not China, it is Manchuria and the Chinese were banned from entering Manchuria.
          "A historical region in the north-east of China. Until 1858-1860, the concept of" Manchuria "also included territories that came to Russia under the Aigun Treaty and the Beijing Treaty, that is, the modern Amur and Primorye. This is where the Opium Wars helped Russia. " "Remaining the dominant group in the Qing Empire, the Manchus very soon took over Chinese culture, but their historical homeland, Manchuria, was never fully integrated with the conquered inner China, preserving legal and ethnic differences. To control the access of ethnic Chinese (Han) to the central and northern Manchuria (that is, beyond the borders of Liaodong), for the settlement or collection of ginseng and other natural resources, a special Willow hedge was even built in the middle of the 1858th century. Only in the second half of the 1860th century, after the loss of Amur and Primorye, did the Qing leadership realize the need to settle the north "The eastern outskirts of the country and strengthen the state budget, and opened the way for the mass settlement of Manchuria by the Chinese." The government of the Empress Dame Cixi preferred Russians to be from the north on the Amur. Knowing how the British behave, according to the results of the First Opium War, the Chinese agreed to let Russian troops pass to the mouth of the Amur River and negotiated to draw a border on the Amur River to the mouth of Ussuri only because they were afraid of the British occupation of the Amur River. Here is such a brief history of the Amur’s occupation by Russians in the middle of the XNUMXth century. And the rest, yes you have to turn to the Aigunsky XNUMX and Peking XNUMX treatises.
          And I also want to add, the Han people are not eager to live in our area, for them it is a harsh climate, the descendants of the Manchus live here mainly. And honey between the North Chinese and Han Chinese has always had a tense relationship.
    3. nikoliski
      nikoliski April 21 2018 01: 36
      0
      What kind of milk? If the Chinese come here to live and cut down the forest for new settlements? then they can even ban abortions from their home and immediately their population will jump from a billion 400 million, a million to 200 (or India will soon overtake them) Siberia is a storehouse of oil, gas, coal, wood, various ores, Lake Baikal is so deep and it’s great that the entire population of the planet, if per liter, can drink its year! all Karl, all 7 billion! Do you understand what is the most important resource? The Chinas are already building icebreakers, although they do not have an Arctic coast, I think soon it will be enough to take everything up the Siberian rivers and gain access to the inexhaustible shelf of the Arctic (there is no less oil there than in the Persian Gulf)
  5. hetzer250789
    hetzer250789 27 March 2018 16: 14
    +9
    There is one problem. To carry out a massive air strike against our troops, the enemy will need to regroup a huge amount of equipment and l / s, which, given modern reconnaissance means (satellite, RTR, undercover, electronic), is almost impossible to hide. In addition, the regrouping will require a considerable amount of time for which it is possible to transfer additional planes and air defense systems from the European part of Russia. The S-400s were also transferred to Syria, as well as the aviation group. Buki and Torah are excellent for protecting S-300/400 positions .Yes and by the way, all of the airborne attacks described by the United States and Japan air forces have one significant drawback - low flight speed. From the moment they emerge from under the radio horizon (38-40 km) they will have to fly to the target for about 2 minutes .. during this time our air defense missile systems will shoot at least twice at them, and if there is an A-50 in the sky ... and Migi with Sushki, which, incidentally, doesn’t have to intercept the enemy’s cr for thousands of kilometers, it’s much more expedient to do this under the guise of your air defense and navy. there will be not 4, but 8-10 missiles each. They also have X-555 and submarines with Granites that can be used to cover enemy aircraft directly at airfields .. if Patriots are powerless against them (the minimum height for hitting targets is 60 m, and our cr are flying lower) In general, we still have some fun in the Far East
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga 27 March 2018 16: 46
      +6
      Quote: hetzer250789
      There are also X-555 and submarines with Granites, which can cover enemy aircraft right at the airfields ... the Patriots are powerless against them (the minimum height of the destruction of targets is only 60 m, and our flyers are flying lower) In general, we will still rush about in the Far East

      Rummage yes But about the "Granites" on the airfields, it is a masterpiece! good
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 27 March 2018 17: 52
        +9
        Olga, you’re right smart, you are fighting experts alone! I fully support you and the percentage of 85 author of the article. I know about Far East by hearsay — he served at 444tbap in Vozdvizhenka until we were laid off, but for this moment I still pull the strap over the Urals, so I’m aware of all pressing problems.
      2. KCA
        KCA 27 March 2018 18: 51
        +3
        Not so long ago, at the Pacific Fleet there were firing “Granites” but on ground targets, the usual working situation, what's the big deal?
        1. KKND
          KKND 27 March 2018 19: 09
          +3
          Quote: KCA
          Not so long ago, at the Pacific Fleet there were firing “Granites” but on ground targets, the usual working situation, what's the big deal?

          Well, as it were, and the S-300 can shoot at ground, only very unreasonable. In particular, there is great doubt about the possibility of using AGRN against ground targets. The inertia remains, but the error will most likely be very large.
          1. KCA
            KCA 27 March 2018 19: 12
            0
            But the firing was carried out for some purpose, not just because - "I wanted to"
            1. KKND
              KKND 27 March 2018 19: 28
              +3
              Quote: KCA
              But the firing was carried out for some purpose, not just because - "I wanted to"

              I didn’t read about these exercises, but it could be stupid to dispose of missiles coming out of the “guarantee”.
              In any case, the “Granites” launched against ground targets lose to the “Tomahawks” both in range and in accuracy, price. The only warhead is more than 750 kg versus 450 kg at the Tomahawk.
              1. Nehist
                Nehist 27 March 2018 22: 12
                +4
                I confirm! The shooting of Granites is exactly the disposal. And yes, there was a case of firing at ground targets, again the utilized missiles were purely out of interest - they were recognized as not effective
          2. sivuch
            sivuch 28 March 2018 10: 30
            +4
            Why, large ground targets, such as TPPs on the seashore, may well capture. How rational is another question
            1. KKND
              KKND 28 March 2018 10: 36
              +3
              Quote: sivuch
              Why, large ground targets, such as TPPs on the seashore, may well capture.

              Questions arise how the AGRN will capture targets in the conditions of mountains, hills, forests and other “rugged” terrain. As far as I know, this is a pretty non-trivial task for radars. Especially for old ones like Granite.
              1. sivuch
                sivuch 28 March 2018 11: 02
                +4
                Generally speaking, I specifically added - on the seashore. Although I agree, it would be more correct to write about contrasting ground targets. And the GOS were revised in the early 2000s or not - I do not know. What such plans were -100%
                1. Snakebyte
                  Snakebyte 28 March 2018 15: 26
                  +3
                  Plans remained. In any case, as of 2012, Granit was not able to work on ground targets. And after that, they hardly bothered with outdated missiles; they prepared the Caliber for ground purposes.
    2. Nehist
      Nehist 27 March 2018 19: 29
      +4
      In fact, the grouping in Alaska and Japan poses a serious threat to them and it is not necessary to concentrate
    3. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 28 March 2018 02: 43
      +6
      hetzer250789 (Yuri) Yesterday, 23:14 New
      There is one problem. To carry out a massive air strike against our troops, the enemy will need to regroup a huge amount of equipment and l / s, which, given modern reconnaissance means (satellite, RTR, undercover, electronic), is almost impossible to hide. In addition, the regrouping will require a considerable amount of time for which it is possible to transfer additional planes and air defense systems from the European part of Russia. The S-400s were also transferred to Syria, as well as the aviation group. Buki and Torah are excellent for protecting S-300/400 positions .Yes and by the way, all of the airborne attacks described by the United States and Japan air forces have one significant drawback - low flight speed. From the moment they emerge from under the radio horizon (38-40 km) they will have to fly to the target for about 2 minutes .. during this time our air defense missile systems will shoot at least twice at them, and if there is an A-50 in the sky ... and Migi with Sushki, which, incidentally, doesn’t have to intercept the enemy’s cr for thousands of kilometers, it’s much more expedient to do this under the guise of your air defense and navy. there will be not 4, but 8-10 missiles each. They also have X-555 and submarines with Granites that can be used to cover enemy aircraft directly at airfields .. if Patriots are powerless against them (the minimum height for hitting targets is 60 m, and our cr are flying lower) In general, we still have some fun in the Far East

      Once we already fought with "little blood and on foreign territory." Are there many hats?
    4. Bongo
      28 March 2018 05: 39
      +6
      Quote: hetzer250789
      There is one problem. To carry out a massive air strike on our troops, the enemy will need to regroup a huge amount of equipment.

      All this is already within walking distance of our borders. And the rest did not even want to comment. No. Who is this review written for? Or did you just watch the pictures? sad
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 28 March 2018 18: 48
        +2
        Thank you for the article hi ! It is evident that it is necessary to strengthen air defense, S-400 and Buk M3, about S-350 while silence has not yet been accepted sad although it would be great to replace the S-300PS with the S-350
  6. Tektor
    Tektor 27 March 2018 16: 48
    +1
    I didn’t find any sense of reading. СХNUMXВ systems should not be used to combat the CD, because their mission - the fight against tactical missiles, warheads and aircraft. As part of С300, there are means to combat low-profile CR, it is for this purpose that С400 is intended. In addition to this basic purpose, the C400 has the potential to combat the BR’s warheads. Carapaces should be used against Kharma and other anti-radar missiles, and the Torah should be used against planning bombs. Bukhi-M400 - sharpened against the CD, and Buk-M2 - against all targets that only exist, but preference for warheads.
    Moreover, all air defense / missile defense systems should be combined with an automated unified defense system, which includes electronic warfare systems.
    1. KKND
      KKND 27 March 2018 18: 29
      +8
      Quote: Tektor
      I did not find the meaning of reading.

      The point is that with one missile immediately from 100 means of air attack it is difficult to fight back.
      Did you read the article, or immediately comment? recourse
      1. Pivot
        Pivot 28 March 2018 01: 41
        +2
        And in the article just the alignment of the BEECHs, TORs and Pantsiry just was not, and also by means of EW, too, as it turned out lopsided however.
    2. Bongo
      28 March 2018 05: 41
      +3
      Quote: Tektor
      I didn’t find any sense of reading. СХNUMXВ systems should not be used to combat the CD, because their mission - the fight against tactical missiles, warheads and aircraft. As part of С300, there are means to combat low-profile CR, it is for this purpose that С400 is intended. In addition to this basic purpose, the C400 has the potential to combat the BR’s warheads. Carapaces should be used against Kharma and other anti-radar missiles, and the Torah should be used against planning bombs. Bukhi-M400 - sharpened against the CD, and Buk-M2 - against all targets that only exist, but preference for warheads.

      Damn, and I did not know ... thanks for reminding. Just forgot to specify how many "Thors" and "Bukov" in the Far East. Why all these fantasies? request
      Quote: Pivot
      And in the article just the alignment of the BEECHs, TORs and Pantsiry just was not, and also by means of EW, too, as it turned out lopsided however.

      It is impossible to give a balance, for what is not. However, the "armor" and "Torah" in very small quantities are available, but the weather does not. And do not forget that the "Torah" are part of the air defense of the NE and will primarily protect the troops from air strikes, and not the position of C-300 / C-400. Concerning EW in open sources there is no information. Maybe you share?
  7. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 28 March 2018 09: 43
    -2
    Well, if in fact it’s already said that on the Far East plans they didn’t really have to die at the borders. everyone knew perfectly well that Khabarovsk and Vladivostok are condemned cities that are gouging right away. parts of the km were hidden mostly near bridges. there the fighting was supposed to take place in the case of a war, this was to deter the first strike and then burn out if they didn’t have time to move. there are such borders that it’s stupidly unrealistic to block in my opinion. I always tried to understand why the missile divisions are secretly tough even in the division the officers almost didn’t know where they are at all. Then it only came to pass with time. In the center of the city there’s a tank battalion and warehouses behind Sita. ... the defense here boiled down to the fact that in the event of an attack based on population density, those who attack simply stumble upon the advanced units that will last an extremely short time before the arrival of all kinds of pieces. which is probably correct. there are no other options anyway
    1. Tahtvjd2868
      Tahtvjd2868 28 March 2018 16: 25
      0
      You are absolutely right!!! And I'm talking about the same thing. There are no other options. And the plant producing the Su-35S fell for nothing when it comes to the language of nuclear weapons yes The meaning of a grouping on Far East is provoking the enemy, forcing him into obvious hostilities, after which tactical missiles will strike from Siberia and the Urals and the entire PLA group (Japan) and the missile range will turn to ashes, and the Far East will become a radioactive desert .. This is China not satisfied ...
      1. Bongo
        29 March 2018 03: 01
        +3
        Quote: Tahtvjd2868
        The sense of grouping in the Far East is provocation of the enemy, forcing it to explicit hostilities, after which tactical missiles will be struck from Siberia and the Urals and the entire PLA (Japan) group and missile range will be reduced to ashes, and Far East with a radioactive desert ..

        And what rockets do you propose to strike in order to destroy the "entire group" of the PLA? wassat
        1. Tahtvjd2868
          Tahtvjd2868 29 March 2018 23: 38
          -1
          Any air-based with special b / h. What you do not like Caliber, or X-555, X-55CM, X-102 ??? Tu-95 / 160 from Engels shoot out over Yakutia.
          1. Bongo
            30 March 2018 00: 10
            +3
            Quote: Tahtvjd2868
            Any air-based with special b / h. What you do not like Caliber, or X-555, X-55CM, X-102 ??? Tu-95 / 160 from Engels shoot out over Yakutia.

            Airborne kr intended for destruction stationary targets placed on a few carriers will destroy the "whole" PLA? No. And about retaliation you did not think? Ask how much DF-21 MRBG in China. In addition, in the air defense of the PRC, the air defense system is already no less than in the Russian Space Forces and the modern fighters too. I do not know if you are aware of the script of the three-year-old exercise? Then they planned to inflict pinpoint strikes on tactical nuclear weapons on the invading grouping of the "yellow" only on their territory. Do you recall the distance of the border from Khabarovsk?
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 30 March 2018 00: 42
              +5
              Quote: Bongo
              Do you recall the border distance from Khabarovsk?

              Sergei! Or maybe Blagoveshchensk? It is somehow clearer.

              On the left, through the Amur city of Heihe
              1. Bongo
                30 March 2018 07: 30
                +4
                Quote: Amurets
                Sergei! Or maybe Blagoveshchensk? It is somehow clearer.

                Blagoveshchensk differs from Khabarovsk only in that the embankment of Khabarovsk can be fired from mortars, and the embankment of Blagoveshchensk from small arms.
                1. Amurets
                  Amurets 30 March 2018 08: 53
                  +3
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Blagoveshchensk differs from Khabarovsk only in that the embankment of Khabarovsk can be fired from mortars, and the embankment of Blagoveshchensk from small arms

                  For that you can see it clearly. By the way, they fired at in 1900: “.. This morning the enemy fired two grenades that fell into the courtyard of Gusarov’s house, the corner of Artillery and Zeyskaya ...” This is the text of the report of police chief Blagoveshchensk Batarevich dated July 7, 1900. Explosions thundered on the streets of those we know today 115 years ago. What was happening in the city left by the troops at that time can be understood from the appeal of the same police chief to the residents of the city: “... Drop fear, return to the city, and we will help each other, and we will not spoil the matter, scattering separately ... Everyone who scares with an absurd rumor, lead to me ... ”http://www.amur.info/culture/2015/07/31/5750
                  From an article about those events
                  1. Romulus
                    Romulus 31 March 2018 18: 24
                    +3
                    Quote: Amurets

                    3
                    Amur (Nicholas) Yesterday, 08:53 ↑
                    Quote: Bongo
                    Blagoveshchensk differs from Khabarovsk only in that the embankment of Khabarovsk can be fired from mortars, and the embankment of Blagoveshchensk from small arms

                    For that you can see it clearly.


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                    Bongo (Sergey) Yesterday, 07:30 ↑
                    Quote: Amurets
                    Sergei! Or maybe Blagoveshchensk? It is somehow clearer.

                    Blagoveshchensk is different from Khabarovsk
                    Sergey, Nikolay hi Here you are for me real people who chop in the subject - I personally am scared .. Do you understand what I mean ..
            2. Tahtvjd2868
              Tahtvjd2868 30 March 2018 15: 00
              0
              It is for this reason that this scenario worked out that there are no other options to stop China. Remember and sound what carriers simulated blow? To keep a huge mass of troops in such territory as the Far East is extremely unreasonable. The principle of reasonable sufficiency is apparently completely unclear to you, and you are ready to fight the whole mass of our unfriendly neighbors with the only VKS army. Well ... Fantasy further.
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      2. Amurets
        Amurets 29 March 2018 15: 43
        +2
        Quote: Tahtvjd2868
        The meaning of a grouping on Far East is provoking the enemy, forcing him into obvious hostilities, after which tactical missiles will strike from Siberia and the Urals and the entire PLA group (Japan) and the missile range will turn to ashes, and the Far East will become a radioactive desert .. This is China not satisfied ...

        This alignment does not suit anyone. The only difference is that neither China nor the West needs European Russia; there is nothing there. But the main wealth of Russia is the Asian part: here are the main reserves of minerals, the main reserves of biological resources. Why are the Japanese fighting for the South Kuril Islands? What do they need this land? They are for free access to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, so that one could poach there, like a hundred years ago. Fish, crabs, trepang, mussel and a lot of sweets live near our shores. Here is an example of how the Japanese Far East robbed the seas: Shirokorad "The fleet that destroyed Khrushchev chapter 5"

        This is only a part, one page. Pay attention to the date: 1930. But if nothing changes, then everything will be repeated.
  8. hetzer250789
    hetzer250789 28 March 2018 18: 02
    -2
    Well, for the transfer of S400 / 300 there are Ruslans (at least 10 sides), for tori and beech IL-76 (more than 100). There are more than 200 tori in the RF Armed Forces, in case of an aggravation of the situation, they can be temporarily adjusted for air defense. in the article, it did not seem to be mentioned, so that the land investigators will temporarily sit without tori
    1. Bongo
      29 March 2018 02: 59
      +2
      Quote: hetzer250789
      Well, for the transfer of С400 / 300 there is Ruslana (minimum 10 boards), for tori and beeches il-76 (more than 100).

      And how many of these transport workers are really in flight condition and where will you land them in the event of a strike on the airfields? How much flight do they need and how long will it take? Bands capable of taking heavy sides in the Khabarovsk Territory, can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
      Do you believe that several divisions, even if they are delivered to the Far East, will be able to turn the tide and protect against the destruction of infrastructure? Yes, and it is extremely unlikely that large forces will be sent to the FEFD, since in this case, the already not too strong air defense system of Siberia and the Central regions of the country will be weakened.
  9. hetzer250789
    hetzer250789 28 March 2018 18: 34
    -2
    And yes, Granites, like other domestic anti-ship missiles, are capable of hitting ground targets. Angars with airplanes, fuel, ammunition, control towers and radar antennas are typical high-contrast targets. Even the crooked Egyptians managed to defeat several Soviet anti-ship missiles in Israel, what prevents us from doing this with a much better materiel? I agree that shooting Granites on ground targets is expensive and stupid, but there are no Caliber carriers on Pacific Fleet yet. Antey and Ustinov are all that we have on water. By the way, Ustinov’s I’ll be able to stand up for myself and cover up my neighbors. I certainly agree with the author that the air defense group in the Far East needs to be strengthened, but everything is far from as sad as in the scenario described in the article.
    1. Bongo
      29 March 2018 02: 44
      +2
      Quote: hetzer250789
      Ustinov, by the way, carries the C-300 battery, so he will be able to stand up for himself and cover his neighbors.

      Cresser "Marshal Ustinov" is part of the Federation Council, how can he cover someone in the Far East? Yes, and please remind me of the number of carriers of "Granites" on the Pacific Fleet, maybe I forgot something? They are clearly not so much that they would hit the squares.
      1. Romulus
        Romulus 31 March 2018 18: 27
        +3
        Quote: Bongo

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        Bongo (Sergey) March 29, 2018 02:44 ↑
        Quote: hetzer250789
        Ustinov, by the way, carries the C-300 battery, so he will be able to stand up for himself and cover his neighbors.

        Cresser "Marshal Ustinov" is part of the Federation Council, how can he cover someone in the Far East? Yes, and please remind me of the number of carriers of "Granites" on the Pacific Fleet, maybe I forgot something? They are clearly not so much that they would hit the squares.

        Sergey - the genre, keep me seven) .. Lord forgive them for they are not knowledgeable ..
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  11. galaktika
    galaktika 29 March 2018 13: 15
    -2
    And we should not forget about the submarine fleet, which is now paying much attention, one of which is the torpedo Kit, which is worth it, by the way, the Americans are very, very afraid of it, though I don’t know if it’s armed with submariners now. They say that this torpedo killed the Kursk Some kind of hydrogen overshoot has occurred.
  12. galaktika
    galaktika 29 March 2018 13: 19
    0
    Well, what else, and you can also REBnut and turn off our GPS in this case ahead of everyone.
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      1. Compasure
        Compasure 29 March 2018 17: 48
        0
        You worry in vain, a variant of one of the Russian mobile electronic warfare systems was used in Syria last year during the Tomahawk attack on Al-Shairat air base
        http://svpressa.ru/war21/article/170204/
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  13. Mihail28
    Mihail28 30 March 2018 00: 12
    -1
    I presented the picture. Oil. About a spherical horse in a vacuum.
    That is, in Europe, Mir-Druzhba-Chewing gum, England, France, Germany repented to Moscow of all their sins. And then the Evil Empire deals an irresistible blow to Russia. And it strikes where France, England, Germany cannot help their former ally, they strike so that the former allies did not even have legal obligations to die for America.
    Some kind of kindergarten, not analytics.
    1. Bongo
      30 March 2018 00: 23
      +3
      Quote: Michael28
      I have presented a picture. Oil. About a spherical horse in a vacuum.

      Only in your fevered imagination. Did you just look at the pictures or read them across? The Far East is considered as an example in order to show its vulnerability, as well as the Kaliningrad region. In what place in the publication states that NATO forces will attack only the FEFD? And about the "friendly eastern neighbor" you forgot? Of course, he will not deliver a blow to the Far East, but will trample across Mongolia and Kazakhstan directly to Moscow. fool
      1. Compasure
        Compasure 30 March 2018 00: 30
        0
        It seems that you do not know about the presence of nuclear weapons in Russia and you think that a global war will be waged by conventional means. This is the author of Faryatyev’s fantasy article ...
        1. zyablik.olga
          zyablik.olga 31 March 2018 03: 44
          +2
          Quote: Compasure
          It seems that you do not know about the presence of nuclear weapons in Russia and believe that a global war will be waged by conventional means.

          Sorry, but this article for whom said:
          Due to the remoteness from the central regions of the country, the insufficient number of large airfields, vulnerability and low capacity of transport communications, the transfer of our reserves to the Far East looks very problematic. In these conditions, the only solution to avoid the defeat of our troops and the destruction of the structure of the livelihood of the population and industrial potential, is to use tactical nuclear chargesThat will allow to depreciate the numerical superiority of the aggressor.
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        2. Tahtvjd2868
          Tahtvjd2868 30 March 2018 14: 48
          -2
          Unfortunately, he is not the only one. He does not see the picture as a whole, only a separate part of it is conventional weapons. He doesn’t understand that if the PLA operation starts, Khabarovsk, Blagoveshchensk, Vladik will be erased in a matter of hours and no S-400 supporters can stop this in any reasonable amount - transfer them to them at least all that is in the Russian Armed Forces. The only guarantee for the security of the Far East, as well as throughout Russia, is nuclear weapons.
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  16. Simargll
    Simargll April 2 2018 21: 01
    +1
    "The S-400 long-range anti-aircraft missile battalion S-12 can have up to 5 towed transport launchers of the 85P2TE5 or 85P2SEXNUMX type."
    None of the divisions had more 8 (as well as less).
    Always 8. hi
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  18. rtutaloe
    rtutaloe April 2 2018 22: 12
    +2
    Pretty interesting article. As for the objections, I want to object more to the commentators.
    1. Consideration of the fact that there will be a joint attack by the United States, Japan and China is relevant, but, like general consideration of the Far East, there is only a consideration of a particular case in the event of a NATO attack on Russia. It is clear that in this case, China will not stand aside, and will follow its state advantage. And its benefit will be in chopping off a region rich in resources, at least so that it does not go to the Americans. China will not defend Russia. This makes no sense. But in collusion with the Americans to attack Russia - it is quite possible. Why not?
    Yes, China itself is not interested in attacking Russia. Business relations are developing mutually beneficial and it is more profitable for China to have Russia as a trading partner and to buy inexpensively what in the case of ownership you have to bother yourself. But in the event of a threat of the destruction of Russia, he would rather join the aggressors than he would substitute himself.
    2. Consideration of the self-sufficiency of the region for defense is appropriate. There will be no transfer of forces from the European part of Russia to the Far East. The European part, most likely, will already be covered by a military conflict for a long time in view of the aggression of the entire European part of the NATO bloc, and the main reserves of troops will be depleted even during the defense of Kaliningrad. Well, if Russia simply sacrifices it, the morale of Russian citizens will fall below the plinth, and the resistance will be weak, not even taking into account Russia's general weakness against the entire NATO bloc.
    3. The article shows both quantitative and qualitative lag of Russia from the capabilities of an aggressive alliance. Do not forget about quality too. T-50 is still a project.
    4. The war will most likely be nuclear, or preliminary destruction of the entire strategic nuclear weapons, and, if possible, nuclear weapons with the help of nuclear-free weapons such as cruise missiles at the base. A possible residual response will be nullified by missile defense.
    5. Military analysts from the United States and other leading NATO countries are likely to see a single retaliatory nuclear strike against their major cities as an inevitable victim. At the same time, they will try to get their establishment out of attack, and they will sacrifice ordinary citizens. The retaliatory strike of Russia will be presented in the media as aggression to which NATO had to respond.
    6. The closest allies will try to maintain neutrality in the conflict. Russia has strained relations with all its allies due to aggressive and dishonest economic policies in relation to these countries. They have no benefits to defend Russia. And if a “destructive offer” arrives, they can even join the alliance to one degree or another.
    7. Buffer zones, resorts such as Transnistria, Donbass, Abkhazia and others, if the West receives a sufficiently acceptable proposal to establish life and reduce the civil war to zero, they are also likely to join the alliance. The population of these regions does not like their precarious and unpromising economic situation.
    8. Despite all the possible intelligence, Russia will not decide on a preemptive strike on the entire NATO bloc, and until the last will hope that it will carry through.
    9. The attack is expected after 2022, that is, the period by which it is expected to rearm the US Air Force and its closest allies with F-35 airplanes, which, along with other military technical solutions, will give the aggressor air force a superior advantage over Russia. As well as a possible solution to the gas problems of Europe through the supply of shale gas is not a period of conflict until the conquest of Yamal and the victory over Russia.
    10. The main phase of the war will not be protracted, due to the technical weakness of Russia and the weak morale of the population. I am sure that no more than 15% of the population will be patriotically interested in long-term fighting in the event of a real conflict.

    At least now everything seems to me that way.
    1. faiver
      faiver April 11 2018 20: 10
      0
      ahhh - we all die ... laughing
      bullshit, excuse me
      1. Bongo
        April 12 2018 12: 56
        0
        Quote: faiver
        aaaa - we all die.

        Die Kohl decided, a gray mare is not a pity ...
        1. faiver
          faiver April 12 2018 13: 28
          0
          Sergey, what do you have to do with it? My comment did not apply to you, specifically on both parts of the article you can only add and thank for the work done - as always everything is very good, accessible and popularly painted ... hi good
          1. Bongo
            April 12 2018 13: 46
            +1
            Quote: faiver
            Sergey, what do you have to do with it? My comment did not apply to you, specifically on both parts of the article you can only add and thank for the work done - as always everything is very good, accessible and popularly painted ...

            With all due respect Andrew, reasoned comments are normally perceived. Dear rtutaloe (Max), in my opinion, rather carefully described the possible scenario of the development of events. If you do not agree with this, then you should probably make weighty reasons, and not just scoff.
            1. faiver
              faiver April 12 2018 14: 14
              0
              Sergei, any attack on Russia by NATO or China will lead to a nuclear collapse of the entire planet, I doubt that the Chinese or NATO suicides, despite all the successes of the Chinese in the economy, I suspect that so many indicators of China are inflated - this is the population and the unknown modern nuclear potential and so on and so on, you can not mention Europe at all - they have softened ... hi
              1. Bongo
                April 12 2018 15: 49
                +1
                Quote: faiver
                Sergey any attack on Russia by NATO or China will lead to a nuclear collapse of the entire planet

                Andrei, I live in the Far East, and for a number of reasons, I am not well aware of the condition and capabilities of the parts and connections of the Far Eastern Military District. The publication did not include very many moments, because I did not find confirmation in open sources and did not consider it possible to write about it. In some places, for several reasons, I was deliberately overly optimistic. The Chinese themselves never published data on the nuclear potential of the PRC, but given the amount of fissile material available in China, the number of "special warheads" in the PRC may even be greater than ours. Think about who the numerous DF-21 MRSDs are for and where they can fly to. In the event of a Chinese invasion, we will have to use tactical nuclear weapons on our territory in order not to provoke a nuclear attack on the central part of the country. As for Japan and the United States, the superiority in air attack is overwhelming. And again, we can only hope to contain TNW. But it should be understood that this is not a panacea for all threats. What works today, tomorrow in the changed conditions may cease to be a deterrent.
                Sincerely. hi
                1. faiver
                  faiver April 12 2018 16: 35
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                  Well, everyone has their own point of view hi
  19. Bongo
    April 3 2018 02: 20
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    Quote: Simargll
    About 48 rocket "and a height of defeat to 27 km"
    In some sources they write 35 km, in reality, the average is between Yours and 35 (30-K per capita).

    Me and so accuse, that I have revealed terrible state secrets. And therefore I used only officially published data.
    Quote: Simargll
    None of the divisions had more 8 (as well as less).

    You are right, the combatant was not, but you can control the actions of a larger number of launchers? In general, I know, but then the picture is generally sad. I deliberately overestimated the number of combat-ready missiles on launchers.
    Quote: Simargll
    And 40 is already in service (this is not for advertising, but for reference).

    In the Far East ? Although there is even in the combat units?
    Quote: Simargll
    The next pedezha commander in chief can be trusted.

    I hope no more of such a "truthful" Bondarev.
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