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To cut, to cut like that ... In Ukraine, a Ministry of Veterans Affairs is being created

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Ukraine announced the launch of the initiative to create a new ministry. We are talking about the Ministry of Veterans Affairs. It is reported that a new government institution will appear in Ukraine before the end of April this year. The reason for the creation of the ministry is the increasing volume of the list of participants in the hostilities in the Donbas, where the civil war continues.


The ministry will “grow up” from the corresponding profile state service which carries out work on accounting for Ukrainian veterans.

Government portal of Ukraine:
The new ministry will become the central executive body, which ensures the formation and implementation of state policy in the field of social protection of veterans and combatants.


It is noted that the purpose of creating a ministry is getting a valid mechanism to provide participants in hostilities, as well as members of their families (including families of the victims) benefits and guarantees.

The "veterans" already has its own patch.
To cut, to cut like that ... In Ukraine, a Ministry of Veterans Affairs is being created


If we consider that with guarantees for "veterans of the ATO" today, not everything is fine in Ukraine, then we can assume that the new ministry is unlikely to correct the situation. The Ministry of Veterans' Affairs can turn into a regular bureaucratic apparatus, in the depths of which not only state institutions, but also public organizations, including charitable foundations, will be sawed.

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  1. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 24 March 2018 08: 52
    +11
    Veterans to destroy their own people. am
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 24 March 2018 08: 57
      +13
      Let them create, then these lists come in handy for lustration with candelabra smile
      1. AID.S
        AID.S 24 March 2018 09: 08
        +8
        Quote: Thrall
        Let them create, then these lists come in handy for lustration with candelabra smile

        And also to our border guards and further down the list ...
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 24 March 2018 13: 34
        +1
        Quote: Thrall
        then these lists come in handy

        Where necessary, these lists are already available. With all the "heroic deeds", and in all details. On some, criminal cases have long been instituted. Particularly "competent veterans" even post their "exploits" in various social networks. Cardboard drills. laughing
    2. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 24 March 2018 08: 58
      +3
      I think you can buy this crust in dill without any problems yes . To the campaign this ministry will become just a gold mine, I can imagine how much money will be spinning there and how much blood will be shed for the places in this club yes .
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 24 March 2018 10: 34
        +2
        Quote: Spartanez300
        This campaign will be just a bonanza, I can imagine how much money will be spinning there and how much blood will be shed for the places in this club.

        where they will be indignant. Petya has long been “seized” by all funds
      2. naidas
        naidas 24 March 2018 11: 30
        +2
        You can become a "Participant in hostilities" for only 5-10 UAH. That is how much the identity card that is sold on the Web costs.
    3. Vard
      Vard 24 March 2018 08: 58
      +4
      A new national sport appeared in Ukraine ... Do not let yourself be caught ... Participants ... draftees and their relatives ...
    4. Teberii
      Teberii 24 March 2018 08: 58
      +4
      How many people have already gone through the ATO, there is not enough money for retirement, the next divorce of the Ukrainian people.
      1. AID.S
        AID.S 24 March 2018 09: 25
        +1
        Quote: Teberii
        not enough money for retirement

        Why did you decide so? Is the Internet full of moans of Sumerian starving retirees? The latest information of this kind is for January 17th. If I were a Sumerian ... oh, and did not hesitate in expressions.
        1. naidas
          naidas 24 March 2018 10: 39
          +3
          Quote: AID.S
          The internet is full

          Already ridiculous, you are talking about judicial retirees, so their hundredths of a percent (16000 g. Pension), the rest of 1400 g. (Siloviki 2500 g).
          Either eat, or moan in the internet.
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 24 March 2018 10: 39
          +4
          Quote: AID.S
          Why did you decide so? Is the Internet full of moans of Sumerian starving retirees?

          retirees usually rarely sit in the rear. and Russian social networks are closed to them. do not forget about neighbors informers. I have a friend of a girl is already afraid to communicate with me from home. the son has already been opposed to Russia. and can’t do anything
        3. Orionvit
          Orionvit 24 March 2018 13: 40
          +2
          Quote: AID.S
          Is the Internet full of moans of Sumerian starving retirees?

          Do you want to hear them and you will feel better? An ordinary pension in Ukraine is enough only to pay for a communal apartment and then absolutely not to starve to death.
          1. AID.S
            AID.S 24 March 2018 19: 20
            0
            Quote: Orionvit
            Do you want to hear them and you will feel better? An ordinary pension in Ukraine is enough only to pay for a communal apartment and then absolutely not to starve to death

            It was about that:
            Quote: Teberii
            not enough money for retirement

            That is, there is no money in the budget to issue pensions to pensioners. So there is no such problem. The delay in pensions was a year ago. Is it easier for me or not .....
            , I rather worry about the problem of Sumerian pensioners as follows:
            - I suggest you buy several magazines in favor of the children of Germany. A fifty dollars piece.
            - No, I won’t take it.
            - You do not sympathize with the children of Germany?
            - Sorry.
            - A, fifty dollars a pity?
            - Нет.
            - Why?
            - I do not want.
    5. Masya masya
      Masya masya 24 March 2018 09: 01
      +19
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Veterans to destroy their own people.

      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 24 March 2018 09: 26
        +11
        Marina, hello! love these verses in this thread will be better than any comment.

        I think that the leitmotif of this organization will ultimately come down to "we did not send you there."
    6. LSA57
      LSA57 24 March 2018 10: 33
      +2
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Veterans to destroy their own people.

      during the civil war in Russia, in the White Guard, orders and medals were not awarded
      1. Russia
        Russia 24 March 2018 11: 29
        +5
        They are laying another time bomb, there will be some promises against the background of the ministerial portfolio, an example of persecution and indifference in minibuses is indicative.
  2. Kosmotoga
    Kosmotoga 24 March 2018 08: 56
    +4
    to control dissent among adequate veterans. There is no plowed field. They will denounce separatism and squeeze out all the latest payments and benefits, followed by the addition of a peacemaker to the site.
  3. Fedorov
    Fedorov 24 March 2018 09: 06
    +8
    We have in the area of ​​"veterans" of the ATO received benefits - 10 hundred parts of the "dead" land. Since the days of the USSR, everything has been alive with corn and chemicals, nichrome does not grow as it is not fertilized. No gas, no light, no water, multiply and multiply ... And get a minimum of three bridges in the Urals.
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 24 March 2018 09: 09
      +7
      Quote: Fedorov
      We have in the area of ​​"veterans" of the ATO received benefits - 10 hundred parts of the "dead" land. Since the days of the USSR, everything has been alive with corn and chemicals, nichrome does not grow as it is not fertilized. No gas, no light, no water, multiply and multiply ... And get a minimum of three bridges in the Urals.

      Let the caches dig themselves smile
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 24 March 2018 09: 29
        +7
        Let the caches dig themselves

        I think it’s been digging for a long time ... But this is useless, everything is written and fixed! No one will escape retribution!

        A joke. but such an option is "polite" .. bully
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 24 March 2018 09: 54
          +5
          Quote: MIKHAN
          but such an option is "polite" ..

          and most likely inevitable lol
      2. AleBors
        AleBors 24 March 2018 15: 58
        0
        Better immediately graves
    2. AID.S
      AID.S 24 March 2018 09: 41
      +3
      Quote: Fedorov
      We have in the area of ​​"veterans" of the ATO received benefits - 10 hundred parts of the "dead" land.

      Everything is correct, according to the residual principle, and the law is implemented and crop rotation is not violated. And the fatty pieces are already snapped up for sure.
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 24 March 2018 17: 40
        +6
        The top of the sandwich has already been exported to Germany, there are many such bald spots there.
    3. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 25 March 2018 08: 06
      +2
      At us in the region "veterans" anti-terrorist operation received privileges - on 10 hundred parts

      And someone got 3 cubic meters ...
  4. Machete
    Machete 24 March 2018 09: 09
    +2
    Saw, Shura, saw!
  5. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 24 March 2018 09: 25
    +4
    Nadenka is now probably deleted from the lists of veterans.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 24 March 2018 09: 37
      +5
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Nadenka is now probably deleted from the lists of veterans.

      Crossed out of veterans, written down in criminal authorities from the "political". The second walker went)))
  6. Egoza
    Egoza 24 March 2018 09: 35
    +6
    Well, here it is .... "veterans" have become something more organized organized. Everyone strives to take some kind of administration (district, city, regional) by storm and take these very benefits and plots from the deputies. Dastily became a local deputy. So they decided to create a ministry. Well it will be in Kiev, so let them go to Kiev and there they pump their rights .... if they give.
    1. tanit
      tanit 24 March 2018 10: 06
      +3
      So it seems that they themselves are being stormed. And, noble people, sometimes literary Russian, sometimes literary (without surzhik) Ukrainian. An appeal to the prosecutor’s office and the police (there wouldn’t be a big burst from the stomach) This is what “Nadia Khan Rade” did. It is a pity that Nadia will receive the Hero of Russia only posthumously.
      Greetings, Elena hi
  7. kipage
    kipage 24 March 2018 09: 37
    +16
    Well, to our budget cuts Khokhlam far)
    1. hbvkzyby
      hbvkzyby 24 March 2018 10: 32
      0
      I don’t know in the Russian Federation ministries for affairs that do not exist.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 24 March 2018 13: 49
      +1
      Well, Russia is far from budget cuts in Europe and the United States. So what? Where there is more money, there they saw more. Or do you want to change the "human" essence? The Bolsheviks tried, and even succeeded, but then the "human", still took their toll. Or do you just blurt out again, how is everything "bad"? Wake up, the election is over.
      1. kipage
        kipage 24 March 2018 18: 12
        +15
        Yes, I do not want
        And what does the election have to do with it
        Just by hearsay I know how even budget allocations are sawed, not to mention different funds, etc.
        And I would not just blurt out. Zadolbalo listen to what a bad Ukraine, and (respectively) how good we are. We are sitting in one puddle
        hi
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 March 2018 09: 42
    +2
    Another proof of the war against their people, in ukrokalkii will be more. angry
  9. Shuttle
    Shuttle 24 March 2018 09: 43
    +2
    Not "Spilka veterans", and "Spread veterans"
  10. tochila
    tochila 24 March 2018 10: 13
    +1
    And our state scored on veterans, escaping with a handout of about 3k per month !!!! Or maybe I don’t know about something? Maybe we have some kind of government agency that is helping veterans of the database ??
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 24 March 2018 10: 43
      +1
      Quote: tochila
      Today, 10: 13
      And our state scored on veterans, escaping with a handout of about 3k per month

      Well, if the veteran is about forty, then what to complain about if not disabled?
      List of benefits for veterans in 2018
      The list of existing benefits includes:

      military pension - this payment is received by both veterans who went on holiday due to seniority, and those who left the service upon reaching the legislatively fixed age threshold;
      the right to housing as a matter of priority. At the same time, it is worth remembering the norms of housing that can be transferred into ownership (i.e. provided on the basis of a social rent agreement): 33 m2 for 1 person, 42 m2 - for 2, 18 m2 - for each family member consisting of three or more people;
      the right to preferential payment of utilities, as well as services provided by electricity, heat and water supply enterprises. Discounts for veterans, as well as those who are part of their family, reach 50% of the total payments for utilities;
      the ability to receive assistance and treatment in medical facilities without a queue;
      preferential taxation in the context of property, land and transport fees. So, the standard federal tax deduction is 500 rubles (for disabled veterans it is increased to 3 thousand rubles), and the land tax is reduced by 10 thousand rubles. The size of the transport tax discount is set by the territorial authorities independently;
      the right to take vacations at convenient periods of time, as well as the opportunity to take additional unpaid leave, which in total may be equal to 35 days;
      the ability to get a fixed home telephone number without a queue;
      preemptive rights when joining a garage, housing, country, gardening or gardening cooperative association;
      the opportunity to get free products related to the group of prosthetic and orthopedic. In the event that such a product is purchased on its own, a veteran may write an application for compensation payment for such a purchase;
      the right to free travel in public transport, as well as the ability to purchase tickets for all types of transport first;
      the opportunity to receive additional education or to undergo further education at the expense of the state. Veterans who wish to become students may enter out of competition;
      benefits for obtaining prescribed medications and medicines;
      the right to priority trips to sanatoriums and spa establishments, if there are medical indications and instructions for such procedures.
    2. Sergey D_2
      Sergey D_2 24 March 2018 10: 47
      0
      It’s too early. As soon as WWII veterans and the labor front die out, then they will be remembered. Maybe.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 March 2018 10: 27
    +3
    If we take into account that the main veterans are Poroshenko, the “bloody pastor” and a number of such “heroes”, we can conclude who and how the new ministry will work.
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 24 March 2018 10: 27
    +2
    Even the wording itself contains fraud:
    It is noted that the goal of creating the ministry is to obtain an effective mechanism for providing combat participants and members of their families (including families of the deceased) with benefits and guarantees.

    This ministry does not guarantee payments, psychological assistance to the veteran, and moreover will not provide assistance to the family of the deceased, but simply develops a mechanism for obtaining benefits for veterans.
    The mechanism - for the sake of the mechanism, in what!
    This is very easy to prove. We will see the budget of this ministry the other day and its real purpose will be understood.
  13. hbvkzyby
    hbvkzyby 24 March 2018 10: 31
    0
    It is a pity that you can not participate in Ukrainian public procurement. That’s where the Lafa is for tenders now!
  14. Gardamir
    Gardamir 24 March 2018 10: 36
    0
    And so?
    http://bbratstvo.com/2018/03/19/v-knr-sozdano-min
    isterstvo-po-delam-veteranov
  15. Sergey D_2
    Sergey D_2 24 March 2018 10: 44
    0
    And how many Russian veterans were brought to their lips with apartments?
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 24 March 2018 12: 11
      +1
      Quote: Sergey D_2
      And how many Russian veterans were brought to their lips with apartments?

      Farted ..? I am pleased I hope .. You will now be intensely puckered. But I would love you .. negative
      1. Sergey D_2
        Sergey D_2 24 March 2018 15: 59
        0
        I believe that you would cut belts from the back. For a letter for a belt
  16. iouris
    iouris 24 March 2018 12: 52
    +1
    I do not see an informational occasion.
  17. Palagecha
    Palagecha 24 March 2018 20: 02
    +1
    In a normal country, they do not give benefits on a piece of paper, but just decent decent pensions. Then no benefits are needed, like the title of a veteran.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 24 March 2018 20: 12
      +4
      Quote: Palagecha
      In a normal country they give ...

      This is where such a miracle, do not tell? What is right "give" ...
      And then they catch up, and still give belay
  18. LeonidL
    LeonidL 25 March 2018 04: 38
    +1
    Drinking of ATO veterans ... however sounds authentic! They drink too much, how they drink too much!