To cut, to cut like that ... In Ukraine, a Ministry of Veterans Affairs is being created

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Ukraine announced the launch of the initiative to create a new ministry. We are talking about the Ministry of Veterans Affairs. It is reported that a new government institution will appear in Ukraine before the end of April this year. The reason for the creation of the ministry is the increasing volume of the list of participants in the hostilities in the Donbas, where the civil war continues.

The ministry will “grow up” from the corresponding profile state service which carries out work on accounting for Ukrainian veterans.



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The new ministry will become the central executive body, which ensures the formation and implementation of state policy in the field of social protection of veterans and combatants.


It is noted that the purpose of creating a ministry is getting a valid mechanism to provide participants in hostilities, as well as members of their families (including families of the victims) benefits and guarantees.

The "veterans" already has its own patch.
To cut, to cut like that ... In Ukraine, a Ministry of Veterans Affairs is being created


If we consider that with guarantees for "veterans of the ATO" today, not everything is fine in Ukraine, then we can assume that the new ministry is unlikely to correct the situation. The Ministry of Veterans' Affairs can turn into a regular bureaucratic apparatus, in the depths of which not only state institutions, but also public organizations, including charitable foundations, will be sawed.

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    1. +11
      24 March 2018 08: 52
      Veterans to destroy their own people. am
      1. +13
        24 March 2018 08: 57
        Let them create, then these lists come in handy for lustration with candelabra smile
        1. +8
          24 March 2018 09: 08
          Quote: Thrall
          Let them create, then these lists come in handy for lustration with candelabra smile

          And also to our border guards and further down the list ...
        2. +1
          24 March 2018 13: 34
          Quote: Thrall
          then these lists come in handy

          Where necessary, these lists are already available. With all the "heroic deeds", and in all details. On some, criminal cases have long been instituted. Particularly "competent veterans" even post their "exploits" in various social networks. Cardboard drills. laughing
      2. +3
        24 March 2018 08: 58
        I think you can buy this crust in dill without any problems Yes . To the campaign this ministry will become just a gold mine, I can imagine how much money will be spinning there and how much blood will be shed for the places in this club Yes .
        1. +2
          24 March 2018 10: 34
          Quote: Spartanez300
          This campaign will be just a bonanza, I can imagine how much money will be spinning there and how much blood will be shed for the places in this club.

          where they will be indignant. Petya has long been “seized” by all funds
        2. +2
          24 March 2018 11: 30
          You can become a "Participant in hostilities" for only 5-10 UAH. That is how much the identity card that is sold on the Web costs.
      3. +4
        24 March 2018 08: 58
        A new national sport appeared in Ukraine ... Do not let yourself be caught ... Participants ... draftees and their relatives ...
      4. +4
        24 March 2018 08: 58
        How many people have already gone through the ATO, there is not enough money for retirement, the next divorce of the Ukrainian people.
        1. +1
          24 March 2018 09: 25
          Quote: Teberii
          not enough money for retirement

          Why did you decide so? Is the Internet full of moans of Sumerian starving retirees? The latest information of this kind is for January 17th. If I were a Sumerian ... oh, and did not hesitate in expressions.
          1. +3
            24 March 2018 10: 39
            Quote: AID.S
            The internet is full

            Already ridiculous, you are talking about judicial retirees, so their hundredths of a percent (16000 g. Pension), the rest of 1400 g. (Siloviki 2500 g).
            Either eat, or moan in the internet.
          2. +4
            24 March 2018 10: 39
            Quote: AID.S
            Why did you decide so? Is the Internet full of moans of Sumerian starving retirees?

            retirees usually rarely sit in the rear. and Russian social networks are closed to them. do not forget about neighbors informers. I have a friend of a girl is already afraid to communicate with me from home. the son has already been opposed to Russia. and can’t do anything
          3. +2
            24 March 2018 13: 40
            Quote: AID.S
            Is the Internet full of moans of Sumerian starving retirees?

            Do you want to hear them and you will feel better? An ordinary pension in Ukraine is enough only to pay for a communal apartment and then absolutely not to starve to death.
            1. 0
              24 March 2018 19: 20
              Quote: Orionvit
              Do you want to hear them and you will feel better? An ordinary pension in Ukraine is enough only to pay for a communal apartment and then absolutely not to starve to death

              It was about that:
              Quote: Teberii
              not enough money for retirement

              That is, there is no money in the budget to issue pensions to pensioners. So there is no such problem. The delay in pensions was a year ago. Is it easier for me or not .....
              , I rather worry about the problem of Sumerian pensioners as follows:
              - I suggest you buy several magazines in favor of the children of Germany. A fifty dollars piece.
              - No, I won’t take it.
              - You do not sympathize with the children of Germany?
              - Sorry.
              - A, fifty dollars a pity?
              - Нет.
              - Why?
              - I do not want.
      5. +19
        24 March 2018 09: 01
        Quote: vladimirvn
        Veterans to destroy their own people.

        1. +11
          24 March 2018 09: 26
          Marina, hello! love these verses in this thread will be better than any comment.

          I think that the leitmotif of this organization will ultimately come down to "we did not send you there."
      6. +2
        24 March 2018 10: 33
        Quote: vladimirvn
        Veterans to destroy their own people.

        during the civil war in Russia, in the White Guard, orders and medals were not awarded
        1. +5
          24 March 2018 11: 29
          They are laying another time bomb, there will be some promises against the background of the ministerial portfolio, an example of persecution and indifference in minibuses is indicative.
    2. +4
      24 March 2018 08: 56
      to control dissent among adequate veterans. There is no plowed field. They will denounce separatism and squeeze out all the latest payments and benefits, followed by the addition of a peacemaker to the site.
    3. +8
      24 March 2018 09: 06
      We have in the area of ​​"veterans" of the ATO received benefits - 10 hundred parts of the "dead" land. Since the days of the USSR, everything has been alive with corn and chemicals, nichrome does not grow as it is not fertilized. No gas, no light, no water, multiply and multiply ... And get a minimum of three bridges in the Urals.
      1. +7
        24 March 2018 09: 09
        Quote: Fedorov
        We have in the area of ​​"veterans" of the ATO received benefits - 10 hundred parts of the "dead" land. Since the days of the USSR, everything has been alive with corn and chemicals, nichrome does not grow as it is not fertilized. No gas, no light, no water, multiply and multiply ... And get a minimum of three bridges in the Urals.

        Let the caches dig themselves smile
        1. +7
          24 March 2018 09: 29
          Let the caches dig themselves

          I think it’s been digging for a long time ... But this is useless, everything is written and fixed! No one will escape retribution!

          A joke. but such an option is "polite" .. bully
          1. +5
            24 March 2018 09: 54
            Quote: MIKHAN
            but such an option is "polite" ..

            and most likely inevitable lol
        2. 0
          24 March 2018 15: 58
          Better immediately graves
      2. +3
        24 March 2018 09: 41
        Quote: Fedorov
        We have in the area of ​​"veterans" of the ATO received benefits - 10 hundred parts of the "dead" land.

        Everything is correct, according to the residual principle, and the law is implemented and crop rotation is not violated. And the fatty pieces are already snapped up for sure.
        1. +6
          24 March 2018 17: 40
          The top of the sandwich has already been exported to Germany, there are many such bald spots there.
      3. +2
        25 March 2018 08: 06
        At us in the region "veterans" anti-terrorist operation received privileges - on 10 hundred parts

        And someone got 3 cubic meters ...
    4. +2
      24 March 2018 09: 09
      Saw, Shura, saw!
    5. +4
      24 March 2018 09: 25
      Nadenka is now probably deleted from the lists of veterans.
      1. +5
        24 March 2018 09: 37
        Quote: vladimirvn
        Nadenka is now probably deleted from the lists of veterans.

        Crossed out of veterans, written down in criminal authorities from the "political". The second walker went)))
    6. +6
      24 March 2018 09: 35
      Well, here it is .... "veterans" have become something more organized organized. Everyone strives to take some kind of administration (district, city, regional) by storm and take these very benefits and plots from the deputies. Dastily became a local deputy. So they decided to create a ministry. Well it will be in Kiev, so let them go to Kiev and there they pump their rights .... if they give.
      1. +3
        24 March 2018 10: 06
        So it seems that they themselves are being stormed. And, noble people, sometimes literary Russian, sometimes literary (without surzhik) Ukrainian. An appeal to the prosecutor’s office and the police (there wouldn’t be a big burst from the stomach) This is what “Nadia Khan Rade” did. It is a pity that Nadia will receive the Hero of Russia only posthumously.
        Greetings, Elena hi
    7. +16
      24 March 2018 09: 37
      Well, to our budget cuts Khokhlam far)
      1. 0
        24 March 2018 10: 32
        I don’t know in the Russian Federation ministries for affairs that do not exist.
      2. +1
        24 March 2018 13: 49
        Well, Russia is far from budget cuts in Europe and the United States. So what? Where there is more money, there they saw more. Or do you want to change the "human" essence? The Bolsheviks tried, and even succeeded, but then the "human", still took their toll. Or do you just blurt out again, how is everything "bad"? Wake up, the election is over.
        1. +15
          24 March 2018 18: 12
          Yes, I do not want
          And what does the election have to do with it
          Just by hearsay I know how even budget allocations are sawed, not to mention different funds, etc.
          And I would not just blurt out. Zadolbalo listen to what a bad Ukraine, and (respectively) how good we are. We are sitting in one puddle
          hi
    8. +2
      24 March 2018 09: 42
      Another proof of the war against their people, in ukrokalkii will be more. angry
    9. +2
      24 March 2018 09: 43
      Not "Spilka veterans", and "Spread veterans"
    10. +1
      24 March 2018 10: 13
      And our state scored on veterans, escaping with a handout of about 3k per month !!!! Or maybe I don’t know about something? Maybe we have some kind of government agency that is helping veterans of the database ??
      1. +1
        24 March 2018 10: 43
        Quote: tochila
        Today, 10: 13
        And our state scored on veterans, escaping with a handout of about 3k per month

        Well, if the veteran is about forty, then what to complain about if not disabled?
        List of benefits for veterans in 2018
        The list of existing benefits includes:

        military pension - this payment is received by both veterans who went on holiday due to seniority, and those who left the service upon reaching the legislatively fixed age threshold;
        the right to housing as a matter of priority. At the same time, it is worth remembering the norms of housing that can be transferred into ownership (i.e. provided on the basis of a social rent agreement): 33 m2 for 1 person, 42 m2 - for 2, 18 m2 - for each family member consisting of three or more people;
        the right to preferential payment of utilities, as well as services provided by electricity, heat and water supply enterprises. Discounts for veterans, as well as those who are part of their family, reach 50% of the total payments for utilities;
        the ability to receive assistance and treatment in medical facilities without a queue;
        preferential taxation in the context of property, land and transport fees. So, the standard federal tax deduction is 500 rubles (for disabled veterans it is increased to 3 thousand rubles), and the land tax is reduced by 10 thousand rubles. The size of the transport tax discount is set by the territorial authorities independently;
        the right to take vacations at convenient periods of time, as well as the opportunity to take additional unpaid leave, which in total may be equal to 35 days;
        the ability to get a fixed home telephone number without a queue;
        preemptive rights when joining a garage, housing, country, gardening or gardening cooperative association;
        the opportunity to get free products related to the group of prosthetic and orthopedic. In the event that such a product is purchased on its own, a veteran may write an application for compensation payment for such a purchase;
        the right to free travel in public transport, as well as the ability to purchase tickets for all types of transport first;
        the opportunity to receive additional education or to undergo further education at the expense of the state. Veterans who wish to become students may enter out of competition;
        benefits for obtaining prescribed medications and medicines;
        the right to priority trips to sanatoriums and spa establishments, if there are medical indications and instructions for such procedures.
      2. 0
        24 March 2018 10: 47
        It’s too early. As soon as WWII veterans and the labor front die out, then they will be remembered. Maybe.
    11. +3
      24 March 2018 10: 27
      If we take into account that the main veterans are Poroshenko, the “bloody pastor” and a number of such “heroes”, we can conclude who and how the new ministry will work.
    12. +2
      24 March 2018 10: 27
      Even the wording itself contains fraud:
      It is noted that the goal of creating the ministry is to obtain an effective mechanism for providing combat participants and members of their families (including families of the deceased) with benefits and guarantees.

      This ministry does not guarantee payments, psychological assistance to the veteran, and moreover will not provide assistance to the family of the deceased, but simply develops a mechanism for obtaining benefits for veterans.
      The mechanism - for the sake of the mechanism, in what!
      This is very easy to prove. We will see the budget of this ministry the other day and its real purpose will be understood.
    13. 0
      24 March 2018 10: 31
      It is a pity that you can not participate in Ukrainian public procurement. That’s where the Lafa is for tenders now!
    14. 0
      24 March 2018 10: 36
      And so?
      http://bbratstvo.com/2018/03/19/v-knr-sozdano-min
      isterstvo-po-delam-veteranov
    15. 0
      24 March 2018 10: 44
      And how many Russian veterans were brought to their lips with apartments?
      1. +1
        24 March 2018 12: 11
        Quote: Sergey D_2
        And how many Russian veterans were brought to their lips with apartments?

        Farted ..? I am pleased I hope .. You will now be intensely puckered. But I would love you .. negative
        1. 0
          24 March 2018 15: 59
          I believe that you would cut belts from the back. For a letter for a belt
    16. +1
      24 March 2018 12: 52
      I do not see an informational occasion.
    17. +1
      24 March 2018 20: 02
      In a normal country, they do not give benefits on a piece of paper, but just decent decent pensions. Then no benefits are needed, like the title of a veteran.
      1. +4
        24 March 2018 20: 12
        Quote: Palagecha
        In a normal country they give ...

        This is where such a miracle, do not tell? What is right "give" ...
        And then they catch up, and still give belay
    18. +1
      25 March 2018 04: 38
      Drinking of ATO veterans ... however sounds authentic! They drink too much, how they drink too much!

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