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Ukraine will buy French helicopters instead of producing their own

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The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said that Kiev intends to sign a framework agreement with France on the purchase of helicopters, thereby actually recognizing the inability of the current Ukrainian government to organize its own production, although loud statements about this have been heard repeatedly.


Ukraine will buy French helicopters instead of producing their own


This was announced by Foreign Minister Klimkin at a joint press conference with French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, reports Apostrof. Relevant documents may be signed soon.

According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, referenced by lb.ua, we are talking about 55 Airbus Helicopters helicopters, and the first cars should arrive this year. The cost of the purchase is not called, but judging by the number, we are talking about hundreds of millions of euros.

Helicopters are also intended for “anti-terrorist and special missions, border security”.

The intention to make a large purchase of helicopters is in no way combined with the statements of Ukraine about plans to engage in its own helicopter industry.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 23 March 2018 18: 36
    +10
    Buy or beg? Two questions, for what money (or did the chieftain have more gold?), And the second, at whose expense will the service be? In general, I am interested in whose account the banquet is and who will pay it?
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 23 March 2018 18: 40
      +1
      Well, why divulge a secret wassat -Naturally, pops out if the French give! Although, they can fuse hucksters from Kiev some junk, the era of the newest Middle Ages! wassat
      1. For example
        For example 23 March 2018 19: 33
        +13
        Ukraine covered itself with a copper basin.
        Ukrainians still believe that they feed the whole of Russia? laughing
        Will they ever understand that they were bred like suckers? Understand that for the Anglo-Saxons there is no Ukraine? There is a part of the land that they (English-speaking creatures) cut off from Russia.
        And people living there can call themselves whatever they like, even Ukrainians, even lunatics. It was important to tear off from Russia and kill the industry.

        And the next will be the Germans. Grandma will play in democracy. The British are bent by the German cancer and the entire EU in their person.
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 23 March 2018 20: 06
          +2
          Ukraine covered itself with a copper basin.
          Ukrainians still believe that they feed the whole of Russia?

          and I believe that the Cohles are happy.
          and with your sarcasm you will not lead them astray. Forever with Europe!
          1. For example
            For example 23 March 2018 22: 11
            0
            Where did you see sarcasm? request
            1. antivirus
              antivirus 24 March 2018 13: 50
              0
              in disbelief in the slogan "Forever with Europe" and "against Russia"
        2. ARES623
          ARES623 24 March 2018 11: 36
          +2
          Quote: For example
          Will they ever understand that they were bred like suckers?

          Understand what they have long understood. But who would ask them? Ukraine has long understood the essence of Western policy towards them. Only the "lower classes" do not want to do or cannot, and the "upper circles" work according to someone else's plan for personal gain, hoping that they will be able to escape from the country in time. I do not think that businessman billionaire Poroshenko does not understand what kind of "income" his activities bring. I think that his actions are intentional, only his goal is not the welfare of the country, but the deepening of the split between Russia and Ukraine.
          Quote: For example
          And the next will be the Germans. Grandma will play in democracy. The British are bent by the German cancer and the entire EU in their person.

          It seems to me that Teresa also plays by the rules of others. They themselves are bent by those who are not seen on TV and in the media. We are dealing here with the international "deep state". And all the machinations of recent years - the Olympics, fallen Boeing, Ukraine, chemical attacks, ISIS and so on, pawns on the same board in the same game, where we play for ourselves, and DS - against us. And in this game there are no rules, but the bet is existence itself.
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 23 March 2018 18: 41
      +6
      Calculated by the Javelins smile
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 March 2018 18: 42
        +9
        Quote: Thrall
        Calculated by the Javelins smile

        As I said, I propose to send humanitarian assistance to the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the form of several trucks with lollipops ... let them pump themselves a new weapon.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 23 March 2018 18: 52
          +5
          Yeah .. And these lollipops from the store with adult goods .. wassat
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Thrall
          Calculated by the Javelins smile

          As I said, I propose to send humanitarian assistance to the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the form of several trucks with lollipops ... let them pump themselves a new weapon.
          1. Star
            Star 23 March 2018 19: 28
            +2
            Will be paid by authorities.
            1. san4es
              san4es 23 March 2018 20: 02
              +2
              Quote: Asterisk
              Will be paid by authorities.

              ... Most likely promises ... I hope the French will soon be disappointed.
              In turn, the Minister of Europe and Foreign Affairs of France, J.-I. Le Drian assured the Ukrainian side that official Paris is ready to support our state not only in matters of reform, but also in restoring peace.
              “We also support all the reforms that are taking place in your country. We hope for further cooperation in any field,” J.-I. Le Drian.

              PS ... and happy faces only in the am
            2. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 24 March 2018 03: 55
              +1
              Quote: Asterisk
              Will be paid by authorities.

              Duc, it seems, has already started. yes They said that the donor blood bank in dill is very large, the surplus will chase the hill. Down and Out trouble started.
        2. PalBor
          PalBor 23 March 2018 19: 27
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Thrall
          Calculated by the Javelins smile

          As I said, I propose to send humanitarian assistance to the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the form of several trucks with lollipops ... let them pump themselves a new weapon.

          A hint of Lyashko?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 23 March 2018 19: 28
            +6
            Quote: PalBor
            A hint of Lyashko?

            One of the biggest lollipops. Then, through his efforts, Ukraine will become a nuclear power.
    3. Chertt
      Chertt 23 March 2018 18: 42
      +3
      The main thing is that comrade huckster is on the right track. And ukRuinu leads "direct slam" into the swamp. Before it dies, earlier on the corpse new flowers will sprout
      1. Russia
        Russia 23 March 2018 18: 49
        +4
        And the flyers are proudly called: Helicopterters. smile
        1. himRa
          himRa 23 March 2018 19: 15
          +7
          Quote: Rusland
          helicopterters

          Dachshunds .... helio ....captors yeah ... a familiar word !! suitable
          http://news.meta.ua/archive/26.10.17/cluster:5674
          0435-Segodnia-den-pamiati-vsemirno-izvestnogo-ukr
          aintsa-Igoria-Sikorskogo /
          In the fall of 2015, Motor Sich PJSC and helicopter specially established by it, Motor Sich Helicopters received certificates of approval for the production of helicopters.
          RIA Novosti Ukraine: https://rian.com.ua/columnist/20160421/1008782082
          .html

          wassat
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 23 March 2018 20: 23
          +2
          Quote: Rusland
          And the flyers are proudly called: Helicopterters. smile

          It immediately feels that you are not strong in mov. request They are called - Gvintokrilshchiki wassat How does it sound!
    4. Kars
      Kars 23 March 2018 19: 01
      +5
      This is a retribution for supporting the coup d'etat. France must have something to fuck, locomotives and coal also buy from the USA.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 23 March 2018 21: 58
        +2
        Quote: Kars
        This is a retribution for supporting the coup d'etat. France must have something to fuck, locomotives and coal also buy from the USA.

        There, now all of Europe will bite off their piece, it is not for nothing that they dragged 40 million horses into the project “Kill the Motherland”. Squeezed like a lemon and thrown out under the pretext that "despite all the efforts, the wards died without regaining consciousness." Damn, 5-6 years ago, I was ready to harness behind Ukrain and Ukrintans from the principle of "my own", now I am absolutely not ready to throw them a life buoy, because they are "strangers".
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 24 March 2018 03: 58
        +2
        Quote: Kars
        locomotives and coal are also bought from the United States.

        Well, with locomotives - okay. And a little coal, which seems to be from retirement ... in short, everyone is in the know. yes
    5. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 23 March 2018 19: 09
      +6
      Quote: NEXUS
      In general, I am interested in whose account the banquet is and who will pay it?

      Well, you, Andrei, the most-and-and-and-and-and-without ..... lol
      Banderostan is a market ... A sales market ... Why was the REVOLUTIONAL GUIDANCE conceived?
      And pennies - friends tossed a loan .... lol
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 March 2018 19: 12
        +8
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Banderostan is a market ...

        No, this is not a market, but a trash ... do you understand the difference? And with a rather not frail human resource, and very cheap. Parashka is not a merchant, but only an intermediary and looking after the whole economy, which is built there by European families, mattresses. That is, he is a stupid butler. Well, and under the guise of something that sells itself. As without this. Note, in this equation there is no concept of the people of Ukraine.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 23 March 2018 19: 14
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          As without this. Note, in this equation there is no concept of the people of Ukraine.

          It became noticeable back in Odessa 02.05.2014 ...
          Quote: NEXUS
          No, this is not a market, but a trash ... do you understand the difference?

          Well, you have to pay somehow for visa-free travel ...
          lol
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 23 March 2018 19: 16
            +4
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Well, you have to pay somehow for visa-free travel ...

            This is not even a loan, but a cobol. It’s not enough just to fasten chains with kettlebells for every Ukrainian for clarity and understanding.
    6. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 23 March 2018 20: 29
      +5
      France is a capitalist country. Help for the poor is not provided. Perhaps a loan will be allocated.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 23 March 2018 22: 16
        +2
        Quote: Okolotochny
        France is a capitalist country. Help for the poor is not provided. Perhaps a loan will be allocated.

        Everything would be fine, only if the conversation was not about Ukraine. There, at the stand before signing the agreement between Ukraine and Airbus Helicopters, a poster with N-145 hung, if we are talking about this particular car, then I doubt that Ukraine will pull 55 pcs or France will decide on such gifts.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 24 March 2018 20: 21
          +1
          Well, for the time being, there’s something to please, zemlytse for example. Here is such a "worthless soviet" backlog. 30 years to sell and can not sell.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 24 March 2018 22: 37
            0
            Quote: Okolotochny
            Well, for the time being, there’s something to please, zemlytse for example. Here is such a "worthless soviet" backlog. 30 years to sell and can not sell.

            Even with all the corruption of the authorities, they are well aware that the law on the sale of land will draw a line under any authority. So the issue of the sale of land is not entirely relevant.
    7. Dreamboat
      Dreamboat 24 March 2018 08: 20
      0
      All that Ukraine allegedly “begged” is actually paid at a price.
      For deliveries of decommissioned rubbish from the USA, for example, the country's gold reserve “for storage” was sent in the opposite direction. The remains of state. assets, non-profitable trade agreements are signed .... the damage from such actions at times exceeds the cost of “gifts from friends”. They simply prefer not to talk about this.
    8. sailor52
      sailor52 24 March 2018 13: 15
      +1
      But who will give them without payment, this world beggar.
      helicopters are not listed Hummers, expensive product.
  2. svp67
    svp67 23 March 2018 18: 38
    +2
    The purchase price is not called, but judging by the quantity, we are talking about hundreds of millions of euros.
    So I understand the money of Gazprom?
    1. himRa
      himRa 23 March 2018 18: 41
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      The purchase price is not called, but judging by the quantity, we are talking about hundreds of millions of euros.
      So I understand the money of Gazprom?

      Really on those same!!
      But they still have to wait wassat
      1. svp67
        svp67 23 March 2018 18: 48
        0
        Quote: himRa
        But they still have to wait

        Well, they already said that they had already kept somewhere $ 130 million. I think that this money is enough ... Maybe
        1. 210ox
          210ox 23 March 2018 18: 55
          0
          As far as I understand that they arrested the "dummies" ... Although they may take credit on future fines from Gazprom, they will find the money, I have no doubt.
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: himRa
          But they still have to wait

          Well, they already said that they had already kept somewhere $ 130 million. I think that this money is enough ... Maybe
          1. svp67
            svp67 23 March 2018 18: 57
            0
            Quote: 210ox
            As far as I understand, they arrested the "dummies" ...

            But the main thing is that they announced ... that they have money.
            Quote: 210ox
            Although it is possible they will take a loan from future fines from Gazprom. But they will find the money, I have no doubt.

            Let's see ... they already bought Bell helicopters.
        2. himRa
          himRa 23 March 2018 18: 59
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          already held somewhere 130 million

          Let me notice real estate lol
          While there is no final verdict of the Stockholm court, they cannot even sell it belay

          Quote: svp67
          Maybe

          Yes, I'm just sure .....
          soon
      2. Herculesic
        Herculesic 23 March 2018 18: 50
        0
        Rahim hi - Now it turns out that the machine for printing euro is made in ukroine wassat and is subject to immediate return home, along with money printed on it! !! wassat
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic 23 March 2018 18: 43
      +2
      France is obliged to give them non-refundable creed, so for a couple of billion euros, they will plunder it, and something will go to purchase used equipment! wassat If only the French are generally not close-minded people. ..
      1. himRa
        himRa 23 March 2018 18: 49
        +3
        Quote: Herkulesich
        If only the French are generally not close-minded people. ..

        Close, close but in the choir you can’t tighten the solo! They can click on the nose!
  3. Archikah
    Archikah 23 March 2018 18: 40
    +3
    So there seems to be no money ?! Well, if objectively - in Ukraine they did not produce helicopters either. Yes, Motor Sich made engines for helicopters, and they had neither a design school nor factories. Only aircraft construction. And you will agree, as they say in Odessa: - Two big differences. hi
    1. KCA
      KCA 23 March 2018 18: 48
      +1
      They also showed their own super-combat helicopter based on the latest MI-2 :-))
    2. helmi8
      helmi8 23 March 2018 19: 00
      +1
      They have Konotop ARZ, maybe they want to stir up something there, it will become ...
      And from the Mi-2, the Poles did battle after they were sold a license for their production ...
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 23 March 2018 18: 44
    0
    What do they have besides ambition and arrogance? ?? belay
  5. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 23 March 2018 18: 47
    +1
    did they dream on the basis of mi-2 ukrolet chtoli produce? I remember somehow slipping an article on this topic
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 23 March 2018 20: 09
      +1
      Quote: Not Liberoid Russian
      ukrolet

      Why !!! good Still a link to the article "Sumerian Aviation" laughing
  6. Kosmotoga
    Kosmotoga 23 March 2018 18: 51
    0
    where is the money from? and external debt? and people? aaaa a joke hammer ..... walk cotton. Children will pay and children of their children.
  7. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 23 March 2018 18: 52
    0
    Russian flag on a bourgeois helicopter? belay
  8. bk316
    bk316 23 March 2018 18: 53
    +1
    motor sich rested in the Bose?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 23 March 2018 19: 35
      +2
      Quote: bk316
      motor sich rested in the Bose?

      It is inconvenient to fly on one engine. wink
  9. faiver
    faiver 23 March 2018 18: 54
    +1
    and which helicopters were they going to release, and where?
  10. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 23 March 2018 18: 58
    +1
    I remember I bought the Hamers, now turntables (to drape))) .. heh heh Now, OURS will not be mistaken in choosing the target!
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 23 March 2018 19: 29
      +7
      Namesake, hello hi It’s somehow more convenient to work on bourgeois technology, and the enemy Miles unwittingly cause sympathy. smile
  11. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 23 March 2018 19: 00
    +1
    Nothing else can be. Ukraine does not have its full production cycles of high-tech products. Everything worked only in cooperation with Russia (the legacy of the USSR). Nobody needs Ukrainian stubs of high-tech industries and will completely die in the next decade. Some earlier, others later. That is precisely the goal of the US and the EU.
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  13. bald
    bald 23 March 2018 19: 22
    +1
    Is this the EU allocated loot? And five dozen, pro pilots, is there?, Or will mercenaries fly?
  14. RUSS
    RUSS 23 March 2018 19: 35
    +2
    It’s normal practice for most countries, until recently, we bought weapons over the hill, like the Italian Iveco armored cars, Israeli drones, various small arms, and the fragmented Mistral cars - they didn’t sell them to us ...
    Now we are buying Chinese engines for naval ships, for special services we are purchasing high-precision small arms, etc.
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 24 March 2018 07: 43
      +2
      You have forgotten Russia's purchase of foreign passenger aircraft instead of your own. In this regard, it is felt that our leaders are with Ukrainian brothers. They also can’t organize their production, they only promise.
  15. Graz
    Graz 23 March 2018 19: 37
    0
    I remember the Poles also threatened to buy French, in the end they had to buy American, the French were offended, I remembered the squadal
  16. senima56
    senima56 23 March 2018 20: 07
    +1
    Why not buy? They will receive $ 2,5 billion on a ball from Gazprom, and you can spend money ...
  17. av58
    av58 23 March 2018 20: 09
    +2
    Ukraine will buy French helicopters? Only if these machines are in storage, and in a state of scrap metal.
  18. vaaaaadik
    vaaaaadik 23 March 2018 20: 15
    0
    But how to produce your own, if all ties with Russia are broken? Yes, and they don’t have their own brands of helicopters, it’s better to buy western ones, and with their own western loans
    1. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 23 March 2018 20: 24
      +2
      Ukraine already makes fat with difficulty, Polish, to say nothing about helicopters))
  19. Falcond
    Falcond 23 March 2018 20: 29
    +1
    Ukraine will buy French helicopters instead of producing their own

    The title of the article is clearly with a joke ... they say they are not able to produce their helicopters in Ukraine!
    Legitimate question: in Russia helicopters of similar classes are produced ??? If so, where and how much? .... Therefore, the article is clearly biased! With the same success, you can write about heavy car chassis, which we have in their infancy, and we buy them in Belarus!
  20. Hiller
    Hiller 23 March 2018 20: 59
    0
    But did the “pan-ataman” have pennies in the budget? Or svidomity throw off? And where do they plan to use these fans?
  21. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 23 March 2018 21: 21
    +2
    Everything is lost, everything is lost .....
  22. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 23 March 2018 21: 46
    +3
    Stop blaming! How long have Boeings stopped buying ??? What flies on civilian flights ??? A320, A321, and Boeing of various versions. Our times two and further only obscene.
  23. Kunica
    Kunica 23 March 2018 21: 50
    0
    They will buy everything they order. Fat in Antarctica will be purchased. The country is sold for beads and mirrors.
  24. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 23 March 2018 21: 54
    0
    Quote: Herkulesich
    What do they have besides ambition and arrogance? ?? belay

    Stupidity and greed, and the mind is in short supply. Alas! And why should he be slaves?
  25. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 23 March 2018 21: 57
    +1
    Quote: FalconD
    Ukraine will buy French helicopters instead of producing their own

    The title of the article is clearly with a joke ... they say they are not able to produce their helicopters in Ukraine!
    Legitimate question: in Russia helicopters of similar classes are produced ??? If so, where and how much? .... Therefore, the article is clearly biased! With the same success, you can write about heavy car chassis, which we have in their infancy, and we buy them in Belarus!

    And what in the Russian Federation and helicopters do not do? KA-226 does not fly? They are also being sold abroad of our homeland. tongue
    1. Curious
      Curious 23 March 2018 22: 58
      +1
      And they sold a lot of these helicopters abroad?
      1. Squelcher
        Squelcher 24 March 2018 00: 57
        0
        And how much fat did you sell?
        1. Curious
          Curious 24 March 2018 09: 08
          +1
          Judging by the question, are you a Malan from Odessa?
        2. Antares
          Antares 25 March 2018 00: 24
          +1
          Quote: Squelcher
          And how much fat did you sell?

          exported 4900 tons of pork, while imports amounted to 5600 tons ...
          The last 40 kilos of fat were sold in the Russian Federation in 2016 ... laughing
          Sausage production is growing (53 thousand tons of industrial fat were imported)
          but they sold only 32 thousand tons of fat ... judging by orders, the difference will grow. Industrial fat is in price. The usual household plots are only enough for markets.
  26. iouris
    iouris 23 March 2018 22: 16
    +1
    Tourists from the Russian Federation also fly on Airbus and Boeing planes.
  27. irbis0373
    irbis0373 23 March 2018 22: 49
    +1
    So Ukraine could not produce helicopters. To do this, at least you need a helicopter design bureau, and in Ukraine and Antonov’s genitive design bureau, it’s breathing well.
  28. Overko
    Overko 24 March 2018 02: 11
    +4
    Quote: For example
    Ukraine covered itself with a copper basin.
    Ukrainians still believe that they feed the whole of Russia? laughing
    Will they ever understand that they were bred like suckers? Understand that for the Anglo-Saxons there is no Ukraine? There is a part of the land that they (English-speaking creatures) cut off from Russia.
    And people living there can call themselves whatever they like, even Ukrainians, even lunatics. It was important to tear off from Russia and kill the industry.

    And the next will be the Germans. Grandma will play in democracy. The British are bent by the German cancer and the entire EU in their person.

    Do not sign for all Ukrainians. I do not think so. And there are many like me.
  29. Evil 55
    Evil 55 24 March 2018 04: 03
    +1
    Owners of dill because of a large puddle threw a freebie of greens .. And you need to quickly master it before they change their minds ...
  30. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 24 March 2018 04: 52
    +4
    News from 404 is encouraging. It is better to have horses with batons as enemies than horses with their own aircraft, tanks and artillery. Faithful dear gallop, brothers!
  31. LeonidL
    LeonidL 24 March 2018 06: 25
    0
    Ukraine buys helicopters !!!! Well, this is just a bunch of jokes! The first and shortest "Where are the pennies from?" ... the last "If they buy, then when will they appear in the LPR-DPR army"?
  32. Zebus
    Zebus 24 March 2018 06: 43
    +1
    A penny e ???
  33. sgapich
    sgapich 24 March 2018 07: 28
    0
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: Rusland
    And the flyers are proudly called: Helicopterters. smile

    It immediately feels that you are not strong in mov. request They are called - Gvintokrilshchiki wassat How does it sound!

    So they themselves were not completely decided. A helicopter can be called: helicopter, gvintokril, helicopter, respectively: helicopter rotor, gvintokrilshchik abo helicopter ... wink
  34. Moor
    Moor 24 March 2018 08: 24
    0
    Who dances a girl, he dines with her. Who gives loans, he decides what to spend them on.
  35. Prisoner
    Prisoner 24 March 2018 09: 29
    0
    "Helicopters are intended, inter alia, for" anti-terrorist and special missions, border protection "..." It is somehow difficult to imagine the participation of these machines in "anti-terrorist missions." In the summer of 2014, the Ukrainian "crocodile" valnuli in Lugansk. And these devices will generally be strewed like the needles of a Christmas tree on May XNUMX. Here are the "special missions" there to fly on a picnic, it's quite fishing.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 24 March 2018 13: 53
      0
      And these devices will generally be strewed like the needles of a Christmas tree on May XNUMX.

      2 times overcharge and write off - knocked down horns all to one.
      100% profit in your pocket - there aren’t a lot of such roads in the world on the road .. Only that leads to Washington
  36. hbvkzyby
    hbvkzyby 24 March 2018 10: 16
    0
    But what about Whack ????
  37. 23424636
    23424636 24 March 2018 13: 15
    +1
    In Ukraine, there is Motor Sich and the engines they produce are left with the Antonovites to make a breakthrough - create your own helicopter. , but clowns like Klimkin grown on western yeast can only be named after the Sikorsky airport. The West does not need a high-tech country; they need a territory where reason is enough only to sing blacks and Chaldeans greetings. and join NATO, spitting on the graves of millions of killed Russian soldiers who recaptured this territory from the Western military, which was headed by Hitler. I remember Yanukovych bought Agusta AW39 for himself, it’s clear that there are no traffic jams when he goes to work with his dacha, but why? Only to kick a penny on himself. Just creatures.
  38. Antares
    Antares 25 March 2018 00: 34
    0
    Attempts to produce helicopters in Ukraine were ongoing.
    There are MS, and Softex-Aero, and a couple more companies.
    I liked the VV-2 in its unmanned project.
    This news is not about military at all .... The whole burden of military operations is still on mi 24 and mi 8 (well, sea kamov)