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The Pentagon ordered the development of UAVs for submarines

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The Defense Innovation Unit Experimental Unit (DIUx) of the US Department of Defense announced a tender to develop a new reconnaissance drone for submarines, reports "Warspot" with reference to the portal flightglobal.com.


The Pentagon ordered the development of UAVs for submarines


Currently, some US Navy submarines have Blackwing drones in their outfits, which are used as communication centers and can also perform some reconnaissance tasks to coordinate strikes. Now, the US Department of Defense stated that the submarine fleet needs specialized reconnaissance drones.

According to the requirements of the military, the new drone will be based in special launchers, and if necessary, the submarine will be able to release it, without emerging. Thus, the drone must be able to overcome the path to the surface through the water column, then take off and be in the air for at least an hour. According to the requirements of the US Navy, drones must be able to fly both under the control of the operator, and in fully automatic mode. The flight radius should reach 50 km. Underwater-based drones will be equipped with an optical module, as well as reconnaissance equipment.
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  1. AntiFREEZ
    AntiFREEZ 23 March 2018 14: 12
    +1
    Disposable?
    1. Yrec
      Yrec 23 March 2018 14: 17
      +2
      Not only is it disposable, it will also be a unmasking submarine. It would be nice to launch them in the water position, but here they were going to launch the drone from under the water, without a pale.
      1. AntiFREEZ
        AntiFREEZ 23 March 2018 14: 21
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        Quote: Yrec
        he is also a unmasking submarine

        This is if the control from the boat, and if in offline mode just transmitting a signal, and the boat is on passive reception?
        1. Yrec
          Yrec 23 March 2018 14: 28
          +3
          A reconnaissance thing is a radiocantra thing, and besides, with active emitting equipment. It is unlikely that the submarine will release it in a remote corner of the ocean, rather, where there is active fuss. A drone taking off from under the water will immediately be visible and the submarine will designate better than any direction finder.
          1. AntiFREEZ
            AntiFREEZ 23 March 2018 14: 32
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            Quote: Yrec
            designates better than any direction finder.

            Clear. I saw a drone - it means somewhere near a submarine.
            1. Aqr009
              Aqr009 23 March 2018 17: 00
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              Quote: AntiFREEZ
              Quote: Yrec
              designates better than any direction finder.

              Clear. I saw a drone - it means somewhere near a submarine.


              Alternatively, you can reset the container with it, first setting it on the timer, move a distance and only then it starts. Something like setting a reconnaissance mine what
              1. Click
                Click 24 March 2018 17: 16
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                Have you read the article? Radius 50km, you can’t move on! smile
                1. Aqr009
                  Aqr009 24 March 2018 20: 59
                  0
                  50 km is the radius of barrage over a given area, but the radius of signal transmission is much further. The boat can take it in a passive mode for hundreds of kilometers, without giving himself away. tongue
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 23 March 2018 14: 54
          +4
          Quote: AntiFREEZ
          if the control is from a boat, and if in offline mode it is just a signal transmission, and the boat is on passive reception?

          The question, of course, is interesting ... (c)
          And what did they scratch us in infe?
          According to the requirements of the US Navy, drones must be able to fly both under the control of the operator and in fully automatic mode. The radius of flight should reach 50 km. Underwater drones will be equipped with an optical module, as well as reconnaissance equipment.
          Taperyacha in order:
          1. Disposable. Nobody will seek and raise it in the sea: it will either drown, or it will be a “drive lighthouse”, in which an ambush can easily wait. And to find such a crumb among the waves from the surface is not an easy task. Who raised the torpedoes - confirm.
          2. A drone under remote control (unless of course via fiber) is a gift for RTR! Immediately, the place of the CP / PU will be determined and the PLUR will be lit up ... At the expense of "one or two"!
          3. If it flies in autonomy, then where will it overtake the extracted info? If on a boat, then more than on the 10m, the water will not penetrate the water from such a crumb. Consequently, the boat under the "paravan" should become, and this is a limitation in maneuver ... If you pull out the retractable - consider already copied from space ... Loss of stealth - disruption of the task ...
          4. Radius 50 km ... And this despite the fact that the PLA with its HOOK hears on the 100 mile! Consequently, this drona will look beyond the coast, or Spanish. to open the enemy’s warrant (additional intelligence and clarify the location of the main target).
          5. The optical module is understandable. But reconnaissance equipment will need to be harnessed through the satellite, otherwise the data will be out of date ... It’s not for battle, but for operational use ...
          That's all that can be said about the future Yankees wunderwaffles. But the fact that everyone was seriously puzzled by uninhabited vehicles - do not go to your grandmother. There is a new stage in the development of the forces of the fleet, therefore - a vertical race! (Where is the money, Zin !?)
          IMHO.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 23 March 2018 15: 35
            +6
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            That's all that can be said about the future Yankees wunderwaffles. But the fact that everyone was seriously puzzled by uninhabited vehicles - do not go to your grandmother. There is a new stage in the development of the forces of the fleet, therefore - a vertical race! (Where is the money, Zin !?)
            IMHO.

            I think they let out dust. I won’t be surprised if under this tinsel there is an order to develop an analogue of our Poseidon. Why? Yes, because the requirements that are voiced are really strange (to put it mildly). A point on the loss of stealth is sufficient, which is a priority for submarines.
            And what they say is apparently calculated on a fool.
            1. san4es
              san4es 23 March 2018 15: 59
              +2
              Quote: NEXUS
              ... A point on the loss of stealth is sufficient, which is a priority for submarines.
              And what they say is apparently calculated on a fool.

              hi... US Navy submarines have Blackwing drones
              request Miniature Blackwing have a length of 50 cm and weigh about 1,8 kg. Before launching the drones are placed in special containers with a diameter of 7,62 cm, already at the disposal of the Navy and used in acoustic countermeasures. Containers are fired from a submarine using a tubular launcher. Upon reaching the surface of the water, drones leave their "cases" and, having opened their wings, fly into the air. Blackwing can be used for reconnaissance and to ensure communication of the submarine with other submarines and surface ships, with a combat control system. Several drones can be launched simultaneously to create a daisy chain.
              The Vice President spoke about the technical characteristics and purpose of the new UAV. Blackwing is equipped with miniaturized electro-optical and infrared sensors and is protected against GPS spoofing. Data is transmitted over a secure channel. The connection between the drone and the submarine is provided by the OE-538 system. The drone is equipped with an electric motor, which ensures low thermal and acoustic visibility of the device. The duration of his flight is about 60 minutes, but Sharpin refused to name the range ..

              http://newsader.com/tag/blackwing/
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 23 March 2018 17: 07
                +4
                Sanya! Here they complain that in the Mediterranean it is neither possible to swim nor fly. Complain about our "Lever".
              2. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 24 March 2018 02: 07
                +1
                Of course, a useful thing. The submarine, without floating to the periscope depth, will be able to transmit collected intelligence through the UAV to the surface fleet.
                This new product in 10 years will become the standard for all submariners.
                1. 2534M
                  2534M 24 March 2018 11: 19
                  0
                  there are a lot of different tasty applications

                  very useful thing for submarines
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 23 March 2018 17: 01
            +4
            Sasha hi , but in general, the technology of mankind is ready for the performance characteristics that they ask?
          3. 2534M
            2534M 24 March 2018 11: 18
            +1
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Disposable. Nobody will seek and raise it in the sea: it will either drown, or it will be a “drive lighthouse”, in which an ambush can easily wait. And to find such a crumb among the waves from the surface is not an easy task. Who raised the torpedoes - confirm.

            not necessarily
            can and plant
            and there are NO problems with torpedoes (caught up;)) - if you do everything according to your mind and EXPERIENCE (documents;))
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            A drone under remote control (unless of course via fiber) is a gift for RTR! Immediately, the place of the CP / PU will be determined and the PLUR will be lit up ... At the expense of "one or two"!

            it is absolutely not so
            channels reserved for RER have been around for a long time
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            If it flies in autonomy, then where will it overtake the extracted info? If on a boat, then more than 10m, water will not penetrate from such crumbs. Consequently, the boat under the "paravan" should become, and this is a limitation in maneuver ...

            we have one of the most successful BSs in the history of the Navy of a multi-purpose submarine that passed with the “Hall” set up. Practically all BS time
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Radius 50 km ... And this despite the fact that the submarine with its HOOK hears for 100 miles! Consequently, this drona will look beyond the coast, or Spanish. to open the enemy’s warrant (additional intelligence and clarify the location of the main target).

            one of the main purposes of such a drone is not to accidentally hit the neutral
            and here the hack will not help - see for example the recollections of the adviser to the CPL of an Egyptian boat in 1970
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            The optical module is understandable. But reconnaissance equipment will need to be harnessed through the satellite, otherwise the data will be out of date ... It’s not for battle, but for operational use ...

            this is not a problem - from the word at all
      2. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 23 March 2018 14: 26
        +4
        Really! The idea is not clear ....
        This is, like, the answer to "Status" - at least something, but we’ll launch ...... from under the water wassat
  2. antivirus
    antivirus 23 March 2018 14: 12
    0
    that’s what the Giants from the 80s recall — for the UAV, there were just the mines in the right number. We have
  3. svp67
    svp67 23 March 2018 14: 13
    0
    A wise decision. I hope that our fleet ordered something similar to myself ...
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 23 March 2018 16: 47
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      I hope that our fleet ordered something similar to myself ...

      There will be underwater drones on the Ashen. But what they will be, in what quantity and whether there will be little information to fly. I believe that work in this direction is being carried out with us and such drones (and not only such) will be equipped in the framework of modernization of Shchuki-B and Antei, and possibly Borei-A. But here is how the issue of stealth will be solved when using such drones, the question is very interesting. At the same time, it must be understood that among these drones there will be bicentric devices and it is they who can unmask the submarine.
  4. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 23 March 2018 14: 13
    +1
    Nefiga they bent themselves .... or maybe he should also shoot down an anti-submarine aircraft?)
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 23 March 2018 14: 16
      +1
      Alex_Rarog (Alexander)
      or maybe he should also shoot down an anti-submarine aircraft?
      Why not?
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 23 March 2018 17: 10
        +4
        Our anti-submariner not only objects, he angrily knocks on the Los Angeles cabin!
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 23 March 2018 18: 50
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          sabakina (Vyacheslav) soldier
          Our anti-submariner not only objects, he angrily knocks on the Los Angeles cabin!
          And “Los Angeles” Let him go ashore now. What kind of person is he needed now, shadow. Do you scare “Poseidon”? Flashed by a kilometer below. crying
  5. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 23 March 2018 14: 18
    +1
    Most likely, the already adopted platform will be equipped with everything necessary for reconnaissance, which will not take so much time. Well, if modern developers try to “attach” drones to tanks, then Neptune himself ordered submarines. yes
    1. Sergey985
      Sergey985 23 March 2018 14: 49
      +1
      What kind of intelligence are we talking about ??? There is a sonar station to understand the situation. You crawl at low speed for depth and do not shine. A drone will give out a boat with giblets.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 23 March 2018 15: 05
        0
        There will be Link 16, which means it will work in a single network. They are now saturating the underwater, surface and air environment with drones. After all, the boat shoots false interference, and if instead of interference it will shoot a swarm of scouts and killers in the path of the pursuer? Or actions in the ACG , speed is important there, and rather you are the beater yourself.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 23 March 2018 17: 14
          +3
          Stormbreaker, I forgot to mention the space environment. Well, where are the peasants to go now?
  6. Sergey985
    Sergey985 23 March 2018 14: 42
    +2
    Why Apple Drone? It’s impossible to come up with a better warning system for an adversary. Again, to receive the signal from the drone to the depth you will not leave. There are more minuses than pluses.
  7. KCA
    KCA 23 March 2018 14: 48
    0
    And what is surprising in this news? About the desire to develop UAVs launched from TA submarines in a submerged position and ours wrote, maybe they are developing or are already experiencing
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 23 March 2018 15: 13
    0
    No matter how he was, at least once, he can be stuffed with reconnaissance equipment to the eyeballs!
    The boats have a problem, you can’t see a fig from under the water ... so something is heard! According to the mind, you can get the right thing!
    We are the same ... no, I want better! Designers, do not sleep, for work!
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 23 March 2018 17: 18
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      We are the same ... no, I want better! Designers, do not sleep, for work!

      - Ahhh! Well, who is bothering there again? Ah, it's you, amateur ....
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 March 2018 20: 29
        0
        Yes, crawled by.
        But shaw, the boat in the underwater very much "sees" a lot above? didn't know repent? However, she probably does not care if the anti-submarine flies upstairs? type, then what on top of the hotel can fly, also do not care?
  9. gippernano
    gippernano 23 March 2018 18: 04
    0
    Our Paseidon was nullified by such an asymmetrical answer. Not soon our wunderwafels will be able to create. The balance is again upset.
    1. Banana Evil
      Banana Evil 23 March 2018 23: 00
      0
      You’ll kill horseradish with a toy airplane and underwater nuclear bomb, which will quietly moor to any coast and not smell quietly. Russia needs to produce them on a conveyor, so that there are so many of them in the sea, like sprats in a bank ... And the fleet has to decide something, it definitely lags behind (except for submarines) in this matter from s. It is necessary to build new shipyards and shipyards, upgrade old ones. Shipbuilding capacities, which are used not for their intended purpose, but the majority, are taken away from Byryg. As a result of predatory privatization, yesterday's sneakers traders turned shipyards and shipyards into transhipments of timber, coal, and other raw materials for a cordon ... not good, not bossy. That’s what Putin needs to do, squeeze ju from the sea, the “exclusive nation” has an Achilles heel, all along the coast ...
  10. Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 24 March 2018 01: 04
    0
    And what prevents pl from throwing out the receiving buoy from the depths, why come up ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 24 March 2018 14: 52
      0
      And sho to accept that? If an all-encompassing control system is created, like I asked you about everything, the data was immediately dropped, then it’s clear! In real life, this is not and the buoy will be like a lighthouse - Here I am!
      That's all, but not much different from real.
  11. komis55
    komis55 29 March 2018 02: 11
    0
    this is an occasion to knock down everything that moves
  12. komis55
    komis55 29 March 2018 02: 12
    0
    Then it’s easier to strike a preemptive blow than to take revenge.