To remember. 75 years since the tragedy in Khatyn

Exactly 75 years ago - March 22 1943 of the year - Khatyn was burned down by Nazi occupiers and their accomplices. For three quarters of a century, the very name of this Belarusian village is significant. This is a reminder of the atrocities of the Nazi punitive detachments during the Great Patriotic War in the territory of the Soviet Union.

With the wording “for possible cooperation with partisans”, in Khatyn, 149 people, including young children, were burnt alive and shot. Collaborationists from the 115 battalion of the “Schutzmanshafta” - a unit formed from the security police, local traitors and mainly from representatives of the OUN (* banned in the Russian Federation) - former members of the so-called. "Bukovinsky Kuren" (Melnikov). Representatives of the SS 36 Division (Oscar Dierlewanger Division) also directly participated in the commission of a war crime.

History Kept the names of the direct perpetrators of the atrocities in Khatyn:
commanders - Major Konstantin Smovsky, Major Ivan Shudrya;
company commander: Vinnitsa;
platoon: Lieutenant Meleshko, Pasichnik;
Chief of Staff: Grigory Vasyura;
Private staff: Corporal (machine gunner) I. Kozinchenko, Private G. Spivak, S. Sakhno, O. Knap, T. Topchiy, I. Petrichuk, Vladimir Katryuk, Lakusta, Lukovich, Shcherban, Varlamov, Khrenov, Egorov, Subbotin, Iskander , Khachaturian.

In 1986, a trial was held in Minsk over Grigory Vasury. During the process, it was established that he personally executed more than 360 women, old people, children in the territories occupied by the Nazis (the Khatyn crime - among others). By decision of the military tribunal of the Belarusian Military District, Vasyur was found guilty and sentenced to death. Only after 43, after the terrible tragedy in Khatyn.

And V.Katryuk died at all in his death in the 2015 year, having fled at the time to Canada. Canada has a long tradition of welcoming Nazi criminals.

Site Memorial complex "Khatyn" reminds:

None of the most detailed geographic map you will not find this Belarusian village today. It was destroyed by the Nazis in the spring of 1943. Khatyn - the former village of the Logoisk district of the Minsk region of Belarus - has become a symbol of the tragedy of the Belarusian people, a mournful page in the history of the Great Patriotic War. In memory of the victims 2 million 230 thousand inhabitants of Belarus in 1969, a memorial complex was built on the site of the village of Khatyn burned together with the inhabitants, which embodies the idea of ​​courage and disobedience of the people who brought innumerable victims in the name of Victory.

The tragedy of Khatyn is one of many thousands of facts testifying to the purposeful policy of genocide during the Nazi occupation.

We remember.

Comments

[NEXUS]

We remember that, but very poorly remind the Europeans. The Jews remember that they were also destroyed by packs around the world and I think it is worthy of respect that Israel approved May 9 as a public holiday (not 8, but 9!) As Victory Day ... well, they also remember on the former Soviet lands. And the rest of Europe and America is already a light bulb. The old people remember them, because they saw how our tanks walked on their land, but the youth do not even know the dates.

[pvv113]

Europe has a very short memory. It is necessary to treat the old woman

[Ziksura]

Quote: pvv113

It is necessary to treat the old woman

Is it possible? The brutal reprisal with the wording of the accusation starting with the words "for the possible" ... Or am I the only one to notice this?

[sogdy]

Quote: Ziksura

The brutal reprisal with the wording of the accusation starting with the words "for the possible" ... Or am I the only one to notice this?

So obvious that it's hard not to notice.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: NEXUS

Jews remember, they were also destroyed by packs around the world

They still inflated the number of deaths at the hands of the Nazis, and as a result they welded up quite well on this. When you remind them of this, they (or rather, many of them) argue that Russia has welded well too by joining the lands of East Prussia. But they generally see the term military trophies.

[sogdy]

Quote: Ingvar 72

joining the lands of eastern Prussia.

Vashcheta, RI bought East Prussia, like the lands of the Russian crown. As a result of the Second World War, we did not take back many of the Russian lands. Svalbard, Gotland, East Africa, Madagascar, a bunch of islands northwest of England. And even Poland was not taken away, although the crown of Poland in RI.

[igor67]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: NEXUS

Jews remember, they were also destroyed by packs around the world

They still inflated the number of deaths at the hands of the Nazis, and as a result they welded up quite well on this. When you remind them of this, they (or rather, many of them) argue that Russia has welded well too by joining the lands of East Prussia. But they generally see the term military trophies.

I don’t know who it is that it’s inflated. The biggest victims on the territory of Belarus were the Jews of Minsk - about 80, from 000 to 43 died in Bialystok; 000 to 58 in Pinsk; 000 24 - in Brest, 000 25 - in Bobruisk, Vitebsk and Grodno. About 000 - in Slutsk; 22 - in Lida; 000-20 000 - in Baranovnchi; 20 - in Mogilev.

Only in the territory of Western Belarus, annexed to the USSR after the outbreak of World War II in 1941 - 1944, from 528 to 569 thousand Jews were exterminated (including from 370 to 395 thousand people in the modern borders of the Republic of Belarus).

In Belarus, every fourth resident of the republic died at the hands of the Nazi occupiers. Of these, one in three was Jewish. By the number of Holocaust victims in the USSR - over 800 people - Belarus ranks second after Ukraine. Once you know that Belarus knows about the city of Borisov, the murder began at 000 a.m. from October 3 to 19 with the ghetto's entourage. The first to take the men to the place of execution were men. There were not enough Borisov policemen to organize the removal and murder of such a mass of people, so the Germans brought additional units from neighboring police stations. In the morning, the remaining Jews began to be taken to death. Trucks filled with women and children moved from Polotskaya Street to the airfield, where shooting holes were dug. All day the cars went one after another, transporting Jews to the place of murder, and came back with the things of those killed. But there were still not enough cars, and policemen drove groups of women and children on foot, beating them with iron rods. Everything happened from morning to night in front of the local population. It was impossible to escape, because policemen stood along the streets and immediately shot at those who tried to hide [20] [6] [7].

The manager of the police department, Joseph Maitak, provided the murderers with enough vodka, and the policemen killed people while they were drinking. Before the execution, the victims were ordered to completely undress and lay face down - according to the cynical expression of the burgomaster Stankevich: “by the sardine method” to save space. When the row of the pit was filled, the Jews had to fill the bodies with a layer of sand and ram [6]. Many people were only injured - they were buried alive. The Germans who watched all this took pictures of what was happening and often laughed [7]. Blood flowed through a thin layer of earth, which was used to sprinkle the dead, and so that it would not fall into the Berezina and cause an epidemic, it was ordered to additionally fill the grave with quicklime and another layer of sand [1] [2] [18].

According to German reports, only for October 20-21, 1941, 7245 Borisov Jews were shot [8] [19]. In total, taking into account other, less massive executions and killings, the number of Jewish victims in Borisov is approximately 9000 people [1] [7] [20] [21].

About 1500 Jews with specialties needed by the Germans were temporarily left alive. Later, Jews from Poland, the Czech Republic and Austria were added to them. All of them were killed in 1942 [2].

In 1943, the Germans, trying to hide the traces of crimes, forced a team of prisoners of war to dig up the bodies of murdered Jews and burn them at the stake, after which all performers were shot [1

[Vita vko]

The whole world understands the tragedy of the Jewish and many other peoples who did not want to swear allegiance to the Nazis.
It’s just not at all clear why, in spite of such massive repressions and Jewish victims, there were practically no victims in the multinational army, which fought against fascism in 1941-1945.

[sogdy]

Quote: Vita VKO

Vita vko

Sorry, can I specify the author?

[Ingvar 72]

Hello namesake! I’m not saying that the Jews weren’t destroyed - you are right in saying that a lot of them died in Belarus.
I say that the number of 6 million deaths is several times overstated. In all territories occupied by fascist Germany there were not so many Jews. And how many of them left to save themselves?
But stating such a huge number of victims, Israel secured a comfortable life, and concessions as a people affected.

[igor67]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Hello namesake! I’m not saying that the Jews weren’t destroyed - you are right in saying that a lot of them died in Belarus.
I say that the number of 6 million deaths is several times overstated. In all territories occupied by fascist Germany there were not so many Jews. And how many of them left to save themselves?
But stating such a huge number of victims, Israel secured a comfortable life, and concessions as a people affected.

Good day namesake, I’m a small person and I can’t answer for global figures, I’ll tell about my family, my grandfather, a Jew, was drafted to the front from the city of Stalin at 41, and died somewhere near Stalingrad, the funeral is kept at our place, as well as letters from postcards from the front, a Jewish grandmother with children, and was evacuated together with the factory to Uzbekistan. As some wrote that the Jews left for warmer regions, it’s true, but only in the place where the factory was producing cartridges. I can’t answer for European Jews, judging according to many reports, they fled with great financial benefits, I know one thing was my communists, and they gave their lives for the Soviet Union. From the Ukrainian side, grandfather and grandmother went through the whole war and reached Berlin

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Hello namesake! I’m not saying that the Jews weren’t destroyed - you are right in saying that a lot of them died in Belarus.
I say that the number of 6 million deaths is several times overstated. In all territories occupied by fascist Germany there were not so many Jews. And how many of them left to save themselves?
But stating such a huge number of victims, Israel secured a comfortable life, and concessions as a people affected.

It's a lie. 6 million is the minimum number of Jews killed. The real numbers are more likely.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

The real numbers are more likely.

Of course Aron, 10 times more!
We have already examined this topic here, with links to the census of the countries of Europe and the occupied territories of the USSR — the math is simple, and we still haven’t reached 6 million people.

[siberalt]

Belarusians Khatyn did not surrender, and we sold the truth about Katyn to the Poles for Western baubles.

[taiga2018]

Quote: NEXUS

We remember

as the example of the “Kolya boy” shows, and we began to forget, speaking of the German invaders as innocent victims ...

[Pax tecum]

We remember.

We remember, yes. But, it is more and more often necessary to remind your citizens, sometimes losing their moral and moral guidelines, to say nothing of a tolerant and hostile West ... It is necessary to remind systematically, with an educational and educational purpose.
None of those involved MUST die a death. Should disappear without a trace, hell for such should come already on earth.
Search and punish. Anywhere in the world.
Then yes, "we will not forget, we will not forgive" will work in practice.
There will be a lot of people who want to punish criminals, there would be the will of the state, the will of those elected by the people’s power to elevate the destruction of criminals to the rank of duty and honor ...

[Herculesic]

First, remove the rating! !!

[Hermann]

Why remove it? I plusan the author of the article because I did not know that today is a mournful day. Thank you recalled.

[Herculesic]

Hermann -not that it is a date in order to make ratings on pluses! !!

[sogdy]

But there is no reason to shake rights.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Herkulesich

not that it is a date to do a rating on the pros! !!

This is not a rating, but a thank you for the reminder! Like Bulbash I say.

[Herculesic]

We remember, we have not forgotten, we will never allow such a thing! This is the grief of the entire Soviet people, even if now it is an independent republic. We will always remember! We grieve and apologize to the dead for not being able to help them in anything. May they forgive us!

[K.A.S.]

I support, Herculesych! And turn off comments! In order not to turn this date into a booth

[Orionvit]

And how many more such “Khatyn”, which are either not known or not talked about. Mourn

[andrej-shironov]

And now the whole world, not excluding Russia, is ruled by liberal fascism. Physically does not destroy anyone, but it’s morally easy!

[ul_vitalii]

And there are many morally destroyed in Russia and where, and who are they, how would you look at them? Nothing personal, maybe I just missed something.

[andrej-shironov]

Maybe they missed it. Tell me, how do you feel about the words of Gaidar, Chubais and others about the many millions who did not fit into the market and died in poverty, as now? But many of the nests of Sobchak and others like him are in power.

[ul_vitalii]

You just fit your whole world order and world order to your wording, are you too swinging? From ancient times were poor and rich, smart and stupid, successful and unsuccessful. There were peaks and falls. Not convinced, buddy, verbiage and populism.

[andrej-shironov]

smile: Poor and rich agree, have always been. I'm talking about something else. I'm talking about the cynical poisoning of the population with low-quality goods, the dibilization of the population with the help of the Unified State Examination and television, about the lack of access to free medicine, about the actual destruction of dissent in all its forms, not excluding Russia, by the way. Is this not fascism but in relation to one’s own people.

[andrej-shironov]

You see, then at least one country was able to withstand the fascism of the USSR. And now modern Russia has surrendered to liberal fascism, thanks to the betrayal of the elite. Do not think that if nobody is being shot and hanged on the streets, if you are not looking for Jews and Communists, then the era of a brilliant future will be in the yard! Outside is just liberal fascism in its camouflaged form.

[sogdy]

Quote: andrej-shironov

Outside is just liberal fascism in its camouflaged form.

Fasio fas est - where do you see it?
If we use high terms, this is voluntarism, the brainchild of Voltaire. Librite, of course, is assumed.

[andrej-shironov]

I have already answered above.

[sogdy]

Quote: andrej-shironov

I have already answered above.

Quote: andrej-shironov

I'm talking about the cynical poisoning of the population with low-quality goods, the dibilization of the population with the help of the Unified State Examination and television, about the lack of access to free medicine, about the actual destruction of dissent in all its forms, not excluding Russia, by the way. Is this not fascism but in relation to one’s own people

Are you talking about this? This is just a chatter. Creating a virtual model for the development of fake.

[andrej-shironov]

Regarding you, I already understood that! After all, you have no arguments against what I wrote, but here it is necessary to answer. Hence, such comments.

[sogdy]

Quote: andrej-shironov

After all, you have no arguments against what I wrote

Andre, your statements that mice ate cats and chew foxes do not need refutation, BUT they put you in an unsightly form, in particular - a fake.

Quote: andrej-shironov

but the answer is right. Hence, such comments.

And do not build logical traps - in your performance such a primitive scam.

[andrej-shironov]

I never got a link from you. to the luminaries of philosophy who said something there about the Motherland without a state. One gets the feeling that the fake thrower is inveterate.

[sogdy]

Quote: sogdy

Again, philosophy (and not just dialectics) claims that you are lying.

Quote: andrej-shironov

I never got a link from you.

For what? On the structure of the proved statement? So learn, damn it. Or are you going to open your bike all your life?

[andrej-shironov]

As I said, none of the luminaries of philosophy that you listed above, the phrase about the homeland without the state did not say. Here is the link I need.

[Opera]

It’s an amazing thing, as even a Nazi crime like Khatyn is used by some to spit on Russia. This is certainly nothing sacred! And yet, always things should be called by their proper names. The name has both a feat and a crime! There should not be any tolerance and perverted forms of internationalism! If the SS division was commanded by Dirlewanger, and directly by the executioners in Khatyn, Smovsky, Vinnitsa, Meleshko, Pasechnik and Vasyura, then everyone is able to conclude who these ghouls are and where! Power is in the truth.

[andrej-shironov]

And where did I spit in Russia? Maximum in power. Do not confuse the homeland and the state. And by the way, here I am one of the few who call a spade a spade, never once suffers from false tolerance, but often it’s shocking right away, but if you sit down and think, a lot of what I say is true. Try it, analyze it.

[sogdy]

Quote: andrej-shironov

Do not confuse the homeland and the state.

Authoritative people, such as Aristotle, Plutarch, and later, whose works are classified as the Philosophy of history, argue that "Homeland without a state" is a piece of territory.

Quote: andrej-shironov

And by the way, here I am one of the few who call a spade a spade, never suffering from false tolerance

I will disappoint you - this is tolerance

Quote: andrej-shironov

but if you sit down and think, then a lot of what I say is true.

Again, philosophy (and not just dialectics) claims that you are lying.
"For there is truth, half-truth, statistics and blatant lies" (c) Lavra D'Artagnan press?

[andrej-shironov]

Absolutely not disappointed! I read all of the above philosophers. By the way, you can link to the original, who and where similar from the philosophers said. Well, purely for their own self-development. And about dialectics and my lies, please more detailed. Ahha?

[Opera]

If you got on your foot in the subway in the morning, then with a great desire and here you can parallelize the power! Now further about the homeland and the government - you deigned to say that modern Russia, thanks to the elite, has surrendered to liberal fascism. For example, I myself, my family, friends and colleagues, and in general I consider my environment to be part of Russia. Russia is our land, people who consider this land their homeland, our faith, culture, history ... I don’t know in our villages, regions and cities whose population surrendered to some kind of fascism thanks to someone or something! As for the liberals themselves, their percentage in Russia, thank God, is at the level of statistical error, but the hatred of many of them towards Russia and the Russians and the authorities is simply going through the roof! So, there is nothing special to analyze here. And speaking for Russia all the more in this context is also not necessary! If someone gave up there then you take a closer look and analyze for yourself maybe it is not Russian at all ?! Maybe it's all those same mankurts of nationality that do not have statistical error ?! And the last thing - I consider the dispute over the good or bad Russian authorities in an article about the Khatyn tragedy inappropriate!

[andrej-shironov]

Have you read Orwell? If not, read for self-development, you will understand a lot. And you will be like the previous person who parried me, but however, no reference to the ancient philosophers and the phrases that they said did not lead her.

[gippernano]

They’re not destroying themselves. Millions !!!!!!! In Russia, how many millions have gone into perestroika? Who counted? How many still blows? On the Donbas for 4 years 10 thousand dead, despite the fact that almost daily losses. And from the Ukrainian side, whose army was shaved, is that not a loss, not ours? Wake up And you can kill not only with bullets. You can starve cold and hunger, and unemployment, and vodka, and drugs ......

[vovanpain]

Quote: andrej-shironov

Now the whole world, not excluding Russia, is ruled by liberal fascism. Physically does not destroy anyone, but it’s morally easy!

Your politeness has completely blown away the roof, calm down and honor the memory of those killed in Khatyn.

[andrej-shironov]

Honored. And he warned all who read this: do not allow a new kind of fascism.

[sogdy]

Quote: andrej-shironov

And he warned all who read this: do not allow a new kind of fascism.

Andre, learn something. The Greeks claimed that there are only 24 types of social relations. They had 12 thousand years to test the idea. The Romans simplified the scheme - 12 species, in each 2 biases with the possibility of synthesis. This is beautifully described in Roman law - the foundation of our legal relationship.
Your ego swells up to the Roman fas, and you persistently impose it on us (fasio). And this worries us, like that Stirlitz.

[andrej-shironov]

Unlike you, I study constantly! I wrote to you above and am waiting for a link to the luminaries of philosophy listed by you. After that, there will be communication. By the way, I'm here under my own name and surname, and not like some under a dog's nickname. Weak?

[The Siberian barber]

Then, too, the invaders carried to our land "their values ​​and the benefits of civilization"
What kind of acceptance is this?
Wherever the foot of the “civilizers”, Germans, British, French, Belgians, Amers stepped, death, grief, chaos came .. And the trouble is that NOTHING CHANGES over time !!! How long ???

[gippernano]

Until roofing, until one thread cleans them.

[The Siberian barber]

Unfortunately, you are right. But you need to understand that after the "stripping", it is unlikely that there will be living things on this mortal Earth

[sabakina]

Quote: Siberian barber

And the trouble is that NOTHING CHANGES, over time !!! How long ???

We have entered the era of Aquarius, they say this era is the era of Russia.

[CAT BAIYUN]

... besides Khatyn there is Dalva along the same road with the same fate, there is also more ...
These geeks have no forgiveness ... And now they are breeding a shift, and the closest nursery of this infection is Ukraine.
Back in 2013, being in Lviv, I looked at the Bandera monument and still can’t put it in my head ...

[igordok]

Quote: KOT BYUN

there is more and more ...

There are a lot of them. Units of them are left as a memorial. TO REMEMBER.


Human logic does not allow one to realize how one can descend to this.

[igor67]

Quote: CAT BAYUN

... besides Khatyn there is Dalva along the same road with the same fate, there is also more ...
These geeks have no forgiveness ... And now they are breeding a shift, and the closest nursery of this infection is Ukraine.
Back in 2013, being in Lviv, I looked at the Bandera monument and still can’t put it in my head ...

since it’s forbidden to incite ethnic hatred on the site, let's not generalize, Ukrainians or even Jews, the 118th punitive battalion was formed from the military personnel at the beginning of the war, had nothing to do with Bendera, Vasyura was a lieutenant of the Red Army, According to German documents, The 118th security battalion was transferred to Belarus only in July 1943 and could not participate in the punitive operation in Khatyn. Soviet collaborators also served in the Dirlewanger battalion, and they could be mistaken for fighters of the 118th security battalion. Probably, only the 1st company of the 118th battalion was operating in the Khatyn region, which could be transferred to Belarus in March.

The 118th battalion later in August 1944 switched to the side of the French partisans, where it formed the backbone of the 2nd Ukrainian Taras Shevchenko battalion. Many of the soldiers of this battalion later served in the French Foreign Legion. Nevertheless, after the war, a number of soldiers and officers of the 118th battalion were sentenced to death or lengthy imprisonment for this crime, although they denied participation in the operation in Khatyn. In particular, in December 1986, the former head of the 118th battalion, Grigory Vasyur, was sentenced to death in Minsk, although he was not in Khatyn. I would like the true participants to be punished for this atrocity, although most likely they are dead. 10 battalions took part in the destruction operation in Belarus, including 8 Latvians, one Lithuanian and one Ukrainian.

[CAT BAIYUN]

since the site is prohibited by the rules to incite ethnic hatred, let's not summarize

I did not say a word about the nationality of the performers. So the claims about inciting ethnic hatred are not addressed.
Yes, I really said that the closest hotbed of fascism is Ukraine.
Do you disagree with this? Do you dig up evidence yourself or help you?

I would like the true participants to be punished for this atrocity, although most likely they are dead.

I hope these creatures still smolder slowly in hell.
I hope that all the other zigzagging creatures in Ukraine, in Israel, in Timbuktu are waiting for a slow and painful dog bomber ...

[Kent0001]

Bandera still can only fight with women, old people and children — such is the fate of this rabble in life.

[sogdy]

Quote: igor67

Nevertheless, after the war, a number of soldiers and officers of the 118th battalion were sentenced to death or lengthy imprisonment for this crime, although they denied participation in the operation in Khatyn. In particular, in December 1986, the former head of the 118th battalion, Grigory Vasyur, was sentenced to death in Minsk, although he was not in Khatyn.

Do you deny the outcome of the Nuremberg trials? All sentences were passed there.
And yes, the poppies deny the participation of Ukrainian troops in the Resistance.

[igor67]

Quote: sogdy

Do you deny the outcome of the Nuremberg trials? All sentences were passed there.
And yes, the poppies deny the participation of Ukrainian troops in the Resistance.

where am I denying? I’m just trying to explain that you can’t put a label in this case that the Ukrainians are all fascists and Bendera, specifically the 118 battalion consisted not of them, but of former prisoners of war, there were Russians and a Pole and Belarus. I just ask you not to put labels on the nations. Who participated in these atrocities is the Nazis and no matter what nationality.

[sogdy]

Quote: igor67

I just ask you not to label

Do you disagree with the verdict of the Nuremberg Tribunal? Well no. without variations, they are not provided.

[igor67]

Quote: sogdy

Do you disagree with the verdict of the Nuremberg Tribunal? Well no. without variations, they are not provided.

Yes, I agree. Then you answer, do you agree to know the true executioners of execution in Khatyn?

[Kent0001]

And who are the TRUE executioners in Khatyn ????

[Kent0001]

And in Babi Yar, your fellow tribesmen who shot and threw into the ditch, having previously given out to the invaders? Russians? Belarusians? Nationality was then a determining factor.

[Antares]

Quote: igor67

you can’t put a label in this case that the Ukrainians are all fascists and Bendera’s,

oh well .. now fashionable like that. There, in the comments above, they threw the percentage of the army (Russians and Ukrainians, the base of the army), so it went unnoticed. The fact that every 6 Ukrainians died in that war is also unknown. But then, Ukraine and Ukrainians are all fascists .. it’s well known from every iron ... They will soon forget and here is a sign from the USSR ... since Russia itself coped with Germany without the help of the republics ...

[CAT BAIYUN]

oh well .. now fashionable like that. There, in the comments above, they threw the percentage of the army (Russians and Ukrainians, the backbone of the army), so it went unnoticed. The fact that every 6 Ukrainians died in that war is also unknown. But that Ukraine and Ukrainians are all fascists .. it is known from each iron ...

And no one forgets that the victory came at the cost of Russian blood. For example, it infuriates me that it is in Ukraine, in the republic where the fascists "frolic" in full, that the unfinished fascists once again roam, a person declared an oath of allegiance to Hitler, a monument was erected to him, torchlight processions with a swastika or her likeness, ..etc. etc.
Well, tell me, who (or where) is it fashionable to revive fascism? In Russia? In Belarus? Maybe in Israel?
Well, you can’t remember about the Baltic states - this is a clinical case ..., although subject to radical treatment. Europeans are silent about their tricks .. Since it is beneficial for them to have a mad dog barking at Russia ... Now here is Ukraine .... SUGS, ponadus, forelocks .... Ugh, mlyn .... There was a country, and there was a viper with a service nation.

[faterdom]

It is bad that the ideologists of the USSR were silent about who actually burned Khatyn. It was believed that these were German punishers. Also, as the Hungarians did not recall Voronezh, the Romanians of Odessa. Because, like brothers, like, in the camp. The Poles are the Army of Sandersres, and the Army of Craiova. And then it was necessary to flatten then all the perpetrators, when it was appropriate, and not build a “camp” from the sand.

[Cossack 471]

Today the news again spoke. that the Nazis burned Khatyn. In the days of the Union they didn’t speak and are now embarrassed to say. that it was schutzmannschaft. formed in Volyn from local Selyuk. . Sure . in any nation there are traitors and murderers. but it’s necessary to speak directly about this. even if they are brothers. the former.

[sogdy]

Quote: Cossack 471

Today, the news again spoke. that the Nazis burned Khatyn. In the days of the Union they didn’t speak and are now embarrassed to say. that it was schutzmannschaft. formed in Volyn from local Selyuk.

Forget two gendarmerie companies?

[Kent0001]

So they stood in a cordon ... and who was on fire? Answer yourself or tell you (Selyuki). they later massacred in Volyn.

[sabakina]

With the wording "for possible cooperation with partisans”In Khatyn, 149 people were burned and executed alive, including young children.

Somewhere I already heard it ... In England, Teresa May, then in extinctions ... Oh, how Muller was right when he spoke to Stirlitz!

[iouris]

It is necessary to establish in the UN a day in memory of the victims of Nazi genocide in the occupied territories of the USSR, separate from the day of memory of the "Holocaust".

[Des10]

Only the Soviet Union erected memorials of memory so that it would not be reborn even in thoughts in the future — to forget what the fascists and their minions had done.

[Kent0001]

Unlike others, We know WHAT IT WAS FOR US ...

[BAI]

collaborators from the 115th battalion

Interestingly, the author thought for a long time what to call these complete bastards?

[sogdy]

They are so called themselves. They created a "republic", from 800 thousand to 1 million people. This includes children and women. All convicted in absentia.
Some sources name up to 2 million. My personal opinion is up to 300 thousand.

It is worth noting that there were many Leningrad creative intellectuals who are now almost prayed for.
The path of non-resistance to the enemy is always the path of betrayal.

[Vikmay16]

Well, that remembered Khatyn! Such events must not be forgotten, especially the younger generation!

[antivirus]

approx in 74-75 years, my father traveled in a group to Belarus
"A very heavy impression of Khatyn, a black stone ..... tears flowed .."

[shuravi]

Such a thought. In Murmansk, Arkhangelsk, we have monuments to victims of foreign intervention.
But it somehow sounds impersonal. Why not introduce specifics, erect a monument to the victims of the English intervention, invite the ambassador to the opening.

[Kent0001]

Cool! I am for!!!

[Slon_on]

The article made a mistake, not the 115th, but the 118th police battalion (was formed in Kiev). The film "Go and See" in the digitized version, these sad days is shown on many national TV channels with us. A very heavy film, not for the faint of heart. The best show of the essence of fascism.

[Kent0001]

A terrible movie .. but this is a story and the younger generation should know this. And it will be like a Banderstatt-false heroes and an eclipse of historical truth.

[Catfish]

Quote: Des10

Only the Soviet Union erected memorials of memory so that it would not be reborn even in thoughts in the future — to forget what the fascists and their minions had done.

So they do not forget. In Latvia and Estonia, SS SSs are marching openly. They do not care about our grief, and they are ready for new "exploits" under the wing of the new "elder brother." After all, they don’t even understand that they are all just mongrels on the sash of the one who commands - “face”. There can only be one way out of this, but ... let's not talk about it.

[Vadim851]

A tragic and memorable date for us ... hundreds of villages shared the fate of Khatyn on our land. Many have never been restored. We remember that it would never happen again no where

[XXXIII]

75 years since the tragedy in Khatyn ....

I remember, I know, I will not forget !!! Death by the fascist reptile and their accomplices!

[1536]

The Red Army in response did not like this on German soil. And forgiven all forgiven. So who are the barbarians? Who is Europe?

[serg.shishkov2015]

Do not forget! Do not forgive!

[Altona]

Quote: igor67

I don’t know who it is that it’s inflated. The biggest victims in Belarus were Jewish

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Why only Jewry? Many Belarusians were killed and stolen into slavery. Belarus (just like that) was almost wiped off the face of the earth, in Minsk there were only 4 undestroyed houses. My grandfather died in Belarus, in the Shabunsky forest, I myself served in Minsk, this land is not a stranger to me. The Germans and their accomplices were real beasts and cannibals. Even as they retreated, they committed atrocities, took away things and food from the locals, shot them, burned houses. So for such words as "Germans who were unwilling to fight" (moreover, members of the NSDAP, judging by the eagle on a tunic), I want to strangle with my hands.

[Kent0001]

So it was. just many want to forget it or not to advertise. Comrade Stalin turned out to be a great humanist, having amnestied the Bandera degenerates of the human race. And Belarusians suffered no less than Jews, only their extermination was not recognized as genocide. if someone during the Second World War hid in Belarus (Jews, runaway prisoners and prisoners of war, then they survived, and who stayed in Poland or went to Ukraine, then they died, their locals simply gave out gastapos. Something like that. Belarusians and Serbs as the Russians are the same primordial and not reborn SLAVES. As the Maestro said: “We WILL LIVE!” ... no matter what.

[Antares]

Quote: Kent0001

then they died, they were just given by the locals gastapo

strange to hear. What in the Belarusian forests, in the steppes of Ukraine, were the largest partisan movements ... or were they all given out by the Gestapo together with Kovpak?

[akunin]

if I remember correctly, the main performers in Khatyn were Bendera. there was no need to keep silence about it because of the glorious friendship of peoples, omissions to give rise to lies in the future. innocently killed nationalities do not (they rest in peace), and killers have and do not need it .hide.

[shuravi]

Quote: akunin

if I remember correctly, the main performers in Khatyn were Bendera. there was no need to keep silence about it because of the glorious friendship of peoples, omissions to give rise to lies in the future. innocently killed nationalities do not (they rest in peace), and killers have and do not need it .hide.

No, I got it wrong. It was the 118-th battalion of schutzmannschaft. Although initially they tried to make it mono-ethnic, the national composition was still motley.
You can carefully look at the names.
As for why Soviet propaganda was silent, it’s not a secret. It's not about the friendship of nations even.
It’s just that Soviet ideologists cut off some not very convenient facts. In order not to spoil them beyond any doubt the heroic struggle of the Soviet people. The mentioned battalion was a German military formation and okay. And what composition there is no longer important.
And actually, they, ideologists were right. Moreover, such practice is worldwide.
Therefore, in the Soviet period, the topic of neither the UPA, nor the ROA, nor the Cossack formations, nor the Lokot republic was specifically massaged.

Well and yet, many couch strategists have only two colors, black and white. And when on the topic of betrayal, all the more so.
Meanwhile, there are not so many absolute traitors as absolute heroes. Most are such that in different circumstances they behave differently.
One and the same person may throw a grenade under a tank, or maybe, being stunned, extracted by the Germans from a sleepy trench, raise their hands. Despite the fact that it is not the first day at the front and in the personal account it is not empty.
The Germans understood this very well, because they easily turned a blind eye to the previous heroism, if they managed to persuade a person to their side (which they knew how well). You will not return the dead for anyone, but getting a skilled fighter is much better than shooting.
By the end of the war, our people also understood this, therefore there is nothing to be surprised at the facts when in the liberated territories the former policemen were poisoned directly into the troops.

[akunin]

it’s one thing to get wounded prisoners, but cutting one’s throat is another.

[shuravi]

Quote: akunin

it’s one thing to get wounded prisoners, but cutting one’s throat is another.

Well, I'm not a schoolboy, that's why there is a different opinion.
Capturing, not even of his own free will, is not one, this is the first step. For it is already in the hands of the enemy and depend on his will. And then, according to the circumstances. They can just break. For example, a pistol with one cartridge is offered to two, with an offer to take and shoot a comrade. A primitive dilemma: "if I don’t have it, then he means me," but how well it worked.
And against those that: “a better bullet in the forehead than I will become a killer”, there was another method, of slow bending.
First, you just sit on the camp rations, without any requirements there. They’ll just forget about you. You can certainly strangle yourself, open your veins, but there are many of these? The man is still hopeful.
Then they will offer to work. Whatever dig, wear. Sin seems to be small, but feeding is better, as it does not agree.
And there it suddenly turns out that you are, for example, a driver. And to turn a steering wheel, it is not to rub a shovel of a callus. And again, soldering is even better as a qualified technician. True, here you need to wear a uniform, so without the insignia, consider it a robe.
And since it’s the driver, it’s not the camp hut to live, but the barracks. With the entire service of the troops, sentry for the barracks, fleet.
Oh, and you can't protect a vehicle fleet without a carbine, but the equipment. So, too, sort of like a watchman, these are not executions.
True, along with the carbine, insignia were already slapped, so too a trifle, we will consider them badges.
Only the command of the driver, who already with the rank, weapon, somehow became more trusted. For example, carry special teams. Which are already engaged in executions. So it's just to carry, do not shoot yourself.
And again, an unexpected person, it turns out to be a full-time driver of this team.
And there, your immediate commander at one fine moment, - Enough for you to sit in the cockpit. Come here, otherwise your carbine will rust soon.
Say a tipping point?
Yes figs there. If you do not understand, then they will explain that for a long time in the team. And from the fact that you turned the steering wheel, and they shot, nothing changes. Together they did one thing, so now you are wandering.

[akunin]

and I'm not a schoolboy, but the “friend or foe” system should work. Some things cannot be done, under any circumstances. “Once Papuan” does not roll.

[Kent0001]

And we also remember !!! BROTHERS !!!!

[Antares]

Memory and sorrow for the victims of the war ... not only in Khatyn ... all the Soviet people!
On his shoulders experienced all the burdens and victims of that war ....