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PE with shooting school in Shadrinsk

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The mass media of the city of Shadrinsk of the Kurgan region publish information that today the 15-year-old student brought a traumatic (according to other sources - pneumatic) pistol to the local school No. XXUMX and started shooting at other schoolchildren. According to the latest data, seven students of the 13 class (according to other data of the 8 class) were injured. The incident occurred during a break. The school operates operational investigative group.


PE with shooting school in Shadrinsk


At the moment it is established that the traumatic pistol belonged to the father of the schoolgirl.

It is also reported that the schoolgirl attracted to her companion her friend. She tried to keep students in the office, while armed with a pistol fired. Whether there was a teacher in the office at that moment is not reported.

The head of the Department of Education and Science of the Kurgan Region, German Khmelev, notes that both girls did not have any learning problems and their families do not belong to those who differ in antisocial behavior.

At the same time, the school itself claims that the shooter has recently often clashed with peers.
Photos used:
http://school-15-shadr.ucoz.ru
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  1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 21 March 2018 13: 23
    +10
    Seen enough zomboyaschika with news from the United States about the shooting in schools. Why do Russians need such news from abroad?
    1. Vard
      Vard 21 March 2018 13: 25
      +7
      Actually there was a pneumatic gun ...
      1. Shura Sailors
        Shura Sailors 21 March 2018 13: 33
        +20
        It’s good that pneumatics. Still wanting to legalize a short-barreled firearm?
        To be honest - personally, I 'changed my shoes' in this regard (revised my attitude)
        1. Vard
          Vard 21 March 2018 13: 38
          +11
          It would be nice ... otherwise your health no longer allows you to brush off the gopniks ... so you have to walk with a small hatchet ...
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 22 March 2018 09: 50
            0
            Quote: Vard
            It would be nice ... otherwise your health no longer allows you to brush off the gopniks ... so you have to walk with a small hatchet ...

            They will find out - they will punish for carrying cold steel weapons.
          2. raw174
            raw174 22 March 2018 10: 13
            +1
            laughing
            Quote: Vard
            health no longer allows you to brush off the gopniks ... so you have to walk with a small hatchet ...

            What region do you live in? Do you go with an ax?))) What kind of "Harlem")))
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 21 March 2018 13: 42
          +1
          Quote: Shura of the sailors
          Still wanting to legalize a short-barreled firearm?

          well now they’re unlikely to show up
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 21 March 2018 14: 03
            +20
            Well, why is he I. “A glass hr fool is not a toy. He’ll break hr and cut his hands.” Allow adequate people. because of personal hostility. And why? Yes they know that they will have to bear responsibility. But all the rest of the citizens, they will not shoot cops. They are all stupid, yes.
            1. EwgenyZ
              EwgenyZ 21 March 2018 14: 36
              +8
              Quote: revnagan
              Allow adequate people.

              Adequate who will determine? Uncles and aunts for a separate "gratitude"?

              Quote: Simargl
              The same as someone hammering someone!

              Well, let’s hand over the “guns”, otherwise the hammer will die a little. Few youngsters in Pskov, in November 2016, “frolic” when shooting at the police. Let's increase the number of these "pranksters".
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 21 March 2018 18: 21
                +6
                Quote: EwgenyZ
                Well, let's hand over the "guns" ... A little youngster in Pskov, in November 2016, "frolic" when shooting at the police.
                Nobody is going to give out anything to anyone!
                However, those who think so should definitely not be given sticks in their hands: they are dangerous to themselves!
                And so - if you do not know - there are not enough weapons on hand!
                The same firing shot roughly corresponds to the line from Stechkin!
                1. raw174
                  raw174 22 March 2018 10: 21
                  +2
                  Quote: Simargl
                  Nobody is going to give out anything to anyone!
                  However, those who think so should definitely not be given sticks in their hands: they are dangerous to themselves!
                  And so - if you do not know - there are not enough weapons on hand!
                  The same firing shot roughly corresponds to the line from Stechkin!

                  I have a weapon, Saiga-12, I'm a hunter. If I have something to shoot through my brain and I want to shoot everyone, well, let's say on the street, then of course nothing will stop me except a bullet of a policeman or a neighbor (he is also a hunter). But if I want to engage in street robbery, then this will be a problem, because of the dimensions of the trunk, but with a short barrel easily! Tell me that the gopniks already have a trunk? So, legalization will increase the number of trunks on the street tenfold.
                  1. Simargl
                    Simargl 22 March 2018 10: 49
                    0
                    Quote: raw174
                    If I have something to shoot through my brain and I want to shoot everyone, well, let's say on the street, then of course nothing will stop me except a bullet of a policeman or a neighbor (he is also a hunter).
                    In Belgorod shot. The lack of a weapon license did not help - opened his father’s safe.
                    In Surgut, he generally managed with an ax - a policeman shot him.
                    Simply put, if pereklinitsya, and hatchet / knife enough.
                    Quote: raw174
                    Tell me that the gopniks already have a trunk? So, legalization will increase the number of trunks on the street tenfold.
                    Who wanted - he bought an injury. The allowed shot energy is at the level of 0.22 LR and 0.25ACP. Now tell how common injuries are. And explain to me how a rubberized steel ball differs from a piece of lead or a shell bullet with the same shot energy.
                    Do you understand what I'm getting at?
                    1. raw174
                      raw174 22 March 2018 12: 56
                      +1
                      Quote: Simargl
                      And explain to me how a rubberized steel ball differs from a piece of lead or a shell bullet with the same shot energy.

                      I didn’t have a trauma, but as far as I know, only a rubber bullet is allowed in the trauma, there is even a limiter for deformation in the barrel bore, in addition, a spherical deforming projectile will lose more than half of its initial speed after 5 meters, and penetrating ability of traumatic less bullets, again due to deformation.
                      All this does not negate the fact that a person can be killed from a trauma, but with GORAAAAAZDO it is less likely than from a combat ...
                      1. Simargl
                        Simargl 22 March 2018 16: 49
                        0
                        Quote: raw174
                        All this does not negate the fact that a person can be killed from a trauma, but with GORAAAAAZDO it is less likely than from a combat ...
                        But does this lower the threshold for use?
                        The gun is effective at a distance of 3-10m. The rest is casuistry. And this distance is almost the same for one energy.
            2. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 22 March 2018 10: 03
              0
              Quote: revnagan
              Well, why is he I. “A glass hr fool is not a toy. He’ll break hr and cut his hands.” Allow adequate people. because of personal hostility. And why? Yes they know that they will have to bear responsibility. But all the rest of the citizens, they will not shoot cops. They are all stupid, yes.

              And yet you can not put on sale a firearm. I would have done so - I would have allowed the acquisition and, even the wearing, of a short barrel to adequate citizens. Bandyugan have it anyway. But, when obtaining permission for a short barrel, a citizen must sign an obligation that he must stop, in the absence of the police, any offenses, from drinking alcohol in the wrong place, hooliganism, etc. according to the list.
        3. Sands Careers General
          Sands Careers General 21 March 2018 13: 53
          +23
          I am for the legalization of weapons. And you can kill with a kitchen knife, so do you forbid knives?
          1. NKT
            NKT 21 March 2018 14: 24
            0
            You can kill with a screwdriver and a regular pen, only the trigger is always easier to pull.
            1. Sands Careers General
              Sands Careers General 21 March 2018 14: 30
              +11
              Usually pull the trigger. And at a distance of, for example, two meters, I’d better climb a gun, it’s much easier to get out of my hands, and a good skill is needed to professionally shoot a pistol, unskilled people usually shoot their own legs most often.
              And with a knife, for example, even a child can kill an adult, no skill is needed, it’s better to tick away, reveal something else, personally, I don’t see any extra body parts.
              1. Letun
                Letun 21 March 2018 15: 03
                +10
                Quote: Sands Career General
                a well-developed skill is needed to professionally shoot a pistol, unskillful people usually shoot their own legs most often.
                And with a knife, for example, even a child can kill an adult, no skill is needed

                Here is a visual level of adequacy of a typical representative of the legalization of a short barrel. It turns out that knives are easier to wield than firearms. No skill needed ... fool
                1. Sands Careers General
                  Sands Careers General 21 March 2018 15: 09
                  +10
                  One stab with a knife - and that's it, try on a wooden mac. A firearm must be used regularly to have a skill.
                  I’m not just saying this because I know, but if you replayed in CS, then continue in the same vein, the people have fun.
                  1. NKT
                    NKT 21 March 2018 16: 52
                    +4
                    You forget about human psychology. And the psychology is such that a shot is at a distance without touching, i.e. there is no contact with the victim, but to kill is to get your hands dirty in the literal sense of the word, to feel the knife enter the flesh, the smell of blood, blood on your hands, etc.
                  2. Letun
                    Letun 21 March 2018 18: 01
                    +2
                    Quote: Sands Career General
                    One stab with a knife - and that's it, try on a wooden mac. A firearm must be used regularly to have a skill.
                    I’m not just saying this because I know, but if you replayed in CS, then continue in the same vein, the people have fun.

                    No, are you serious? And a lot of people drive off after one blow with a knife and move the horses after one bullet? What you know, I see perfectly lol The saying that God created people different, but Colt didn’t hear them equalize? I did not wonder why it arose? Connoisseur straight look well finally laughing
                    And this, for all the people as you speak, I certainly can’t, but personally me, you have fun wink
                    1. Sands Careers General
                      Sands Careers General 21 March 2018 18: 10
                      +2
                      Colt called, because there was no such weapon then.
                      To kill a bullet you need to carefully aim, and be able to shoot, and poke a knife in the throat - and hello. This is easier than it sounds.

                      Connoisseur straight look well finally

                      I know something, because was at war. Although, I would not know better.
                      1. Letun
                        Letun 21 March 2018 18: 15
                        +4
                        Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
                        Colt called, because there was no such weapon then.

                        No, well, that's not funny anymore, really. The proverb says that with the advent of the Colt revolvers, and this, for a minute, the same, almost modern short-barrel, any infirmity could kill, even the fencing master, even Mike Tyson. You really don’t understand this?
                        And do not put alongside professional skills in possession of firearms and basic. Just a huge bunch of facts suggests that in order to kill a few dozen people at school, just basic skills are enough. Or will you argue with this too?
                      2. Warrior-80
                        Warrior-80 22 March 2018 10: 14
                        0
                        A stab with a knife is considered to be a clean wound and it is easier to apair and save a person, unlike a gunshot, when a lacerated wound with pieces of clothing, fragments of bones
              2. raw174
                raw174 22 March 2018 10: 29
                +1
                To put it mildly, I do not agree with you ...
                Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
                And at a distance of two meters, for example, I’d better climb a gun, it’s much easier to get out of my hands, and a good skill is needed to professionally shoot a pistol

                it’s still necessary to approach the enemy with a pistol, 2 meters away, and to kill with a shot, you don’t need to shoot professionally, but to wield a knife, the skill is needed ...
            2. Simargl
              Simargl 21 March 2018 18: 28
              +1
              Quote: NKT
              psychology is such that a shot is at a distance without touching, i.e. there is no contact with the victim, but to kill is to get your hands dirty in the literal sense of the word, to feel the knife enter the flesh, the smell of blood, blood on your hands, etc.
              That's what I see: hunters died out as a class, and even killings with a knife - once poked and that's it ...
              I smell a professional!
              A man is like a ferret: he sensed blood - he would stick a knife again and again! But with the barrel - everything is different: just fired and that's enough.
          2. raw174
            raw174 22 March 2018 10: 23
            +1
            Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
            I am for the legalization of weapons.

            Are you a gun owner? Do you shoot often?
        4. Million
          Million 21 March 2018 14: 23
          +1
          and here many, apparently, outplayed computer shooters ...
        5. sergei_55
          sergei_55 21 March 2018 14: 35
          +6
          I am for. Because I have a trunk and he saved me a couple of times.
        6. Sauron80
          Sauron80 21 March 2018 14: 50
          +7
          Quote: Shura sailors
          It’s good that pneumatics. Still wanting to legalize a short-barreled firearm?
          To be honest - personally, I 'changed my shoes' in this regard (revised my attitude)

          As it was, the people have plenty of weapons in their hands, but they kill something more often with a kitchen knife than with a registered number barrel.
        7. AUL
          AUL 21 March 2018 14: 59
          +7
          Quote: Shura sailors
          It’s good that pneumatics. Still wanting to legalize a short-barreled firearm?
          To be honest - personally, I 'changed my shoes' in this regard (revised my attitude)

          There is! But injuries / pneumatics are strictly forbidden! It is unlikely that this bastard would have decided to go exactly to kill, but with a trauma - it seems like fighting is easy. And the daddy would not leave her battle barrel where this flawed one could catch him.
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 21 March 2018 18: 32
            +3
            Quote: AUL
            But injuries / pneumatics are strictly forbidden!
            Pneuma then why?
            Until 7 J, let him live. But for the remake to punish.
            Quote: AUL
            And the daddy would not leave her battle barrel where this flawed one could catch him.
            The one who gave up arms and did not explain what it is is also guilty.
            The culture of circulation should come first.
            1. raw174
              raw174 22 March 2018 10: 35
              +2
              Quote: Simargl
              The culture of circulation should come first.

              HERE! Verily Verbal! My father taught me to use weapons precisely CULTURAL from early childhood! The first time I shot 5,5 caliber from IZH-27 12 cal., There was no safe before and the gun was in the closet, but I had no idea to take it for the game! Since childhood, I know what weapons are and what they do. We do not have a mass culture of weapons ...
        8. Daniel
          Daniel 22 March 2018 01: 41
          +1
          Quote: Shura of the sailors
          Still wanting to legalize a short-barreled firearm?

          There is. The incident is objectively irrelevant to the issue of "legalizing the short-barrel".
          And there are also those who want (at least one) to find out what kind of bolt in this, if one may say, “pious institution” was going on BEFORE the incident (for a week-month-year)? What, in the classroom there was an idyll all my life, and then one fine day the girls quarreled, and the other, no less than a “wonderful” day, one of them just came and started when aiding a friend (or sister, in all sources) shoot at all (albeit from pneumatics)?
      2. uav80
        uav80 21 March 2018 13: 34
        +2
        That’s yes, the journalists again misinterpreted everything, if only they could write an article, but what is true or not?
      3. Alex-a832
        Alex-a832 21 March 2018 13: 38
        +4
        Quote: Vard
        Actually there was a pneumatic gun ...

        If this is not an injury, then what should the operational investigation team do there. Yes, and damage from short-barrel pneumatic is scanty, unless in the eye.
        It would be interesting to hear the opinions of patients on the head of agitators of free sale of short-barreled gunshots. In this case, there would be corpses of children who died for the "high moral" values ​​of shooters.
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 21 March 2018 13: 48
          +8
          Quote: Alex-a832
          If this is not an injury, then what should the operational investigation team do there.
          The same as someone hammering someone!
          There is bodily and conspiracy.
          Quote: Alex-a832
          It would be interesting to hear the opinion of patients on the head of agitators free sales of short-barreled gunshots.
          Only those like you rave about free sale!
          1. Alex-a832
            Alex-a832 21 March 2018 14: 00
            +4
            Quote: Simargl
            There is bodily and conspiracy.

            Yeah, the bruises inflicted by a child under the age of criminal responsibility for a bully or telly. The hammer leaves not only bruises, but fractures and internal hemorrhages.
            Quote: Simargl
            Quote: Alex-a832
            It would be interesting to hear the opinions of patients on the head of agitators of free sale of short-barreled gunshots.
            Only those like you rave about free sale!

            But I don’t understand, or did I hurt you with my comment as a supporter of the free sale of weapons, or are you having difficulty analyzing the text of the comment?
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 21 March 2018 14: 06
              +5
              Quote: Alex-a832
              Yeah, inflicted by a child under the age of criminal responsibility.
              AND? Who is authorized to deal with this?
              Quote: Alex-a832
              The hammer leaves not only bruises, but fractures and internal hemorrhages.
              So what? Shoot yourself a ball in your hand - be surprised.
              Quote: Alex-a832
              as supporter free sale weapons
              Where did I put myself like that?
              Quote: Alex-a832
              Are you having difficulty analyzing the comment text?
              Judging by the quote above, not with me - for sure!
              1. Hoc vince
                Hoc vince 21 March 2018 14: 35
                0
                Mama Kurgan schoolgirl who shot: "It’s a pity that they can punish her", and from father received a pneumatic gun as a gift.
                https://tsargrad.tv/news/mama-kurganskoj-shkolnic
                y-ustroivshej-strelbu-zhal-chto-ee-mogut-nakazat_
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              2. sergei_55
                sergei_55 21 March 2018 14: 38
                +2
                He shot from PM pneumatics in his hand. Then all the trauma neighing when they cut the ball out of the finger.
                1. Letun
                  Letun 21 March 2018 15: 08
                  +2
                  Quote: sergei_55
                  He shot from PM pneumatics in his hand. Then all the trauma neighing when they cut the ball out of the finger.

                  Why not in the eye? It’s more fun in the eye! In traumatology, then finally, the tummies would have plagued everything!
                2. dlekcat
                  dlekcat 21 March 2018 19: 52
                  0
                  Yes you are a sadist laughing
              3. Alex-a832
                Alex-a832 21 March 2018 14: 49
                +3
                Quote: Simargl
                AND? Who is authorized to deal with this?

                The precinct and juvenile inspector. With a dope, the state of emergency and the governor with the chiefs of the Internal Affairs Directorate and the FSB could have come - because it looks like a terrorist attack. I will not conduct further educational program.
                Your aggressive rhetoric speaks of the immaturity and presence of youthful maximalism, not to mention the problems of education. You will be more comfortable at the Dom-2 forum hi
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 21 March 2018 15: 02
                  +4
                  Quote: Alex-a832
                  The precinct and juvenile inspector.
                  And they should pass this matter to them after they establish that it is not worth a penny. What's wrong?
                  Quote: Alex-a832
                  Your aggressive rhetoric speaks of the immaturity and presence of youthful maximalism, not to mention the problems of education.
                  Those. You attributed to me what I did not say, and then accuse of aggression?
                  In addition, you are lying, claiming that people demand free short-barrel sales, vulnerable you ours!
                  So, for reference, any firearm with us is not freely sold.
                  1. Alex-a832
                    Alex-a832 21 March 2018 15: 10
                    +1
                    Quote: Simargl
                    In addition, you are lying, claiming that the people demand the free sale of the short-barrel, you are our vulnerable!

                    Answered only by quoting you. In this case, to say that I spoke about the people is a lie. I spoke about separate and not quite sane subjects. Surprisingly, you did not notice this.
                    Stop this empty argument.
      4. Sauron80
        Sauron80 21 March 2018 13: 40
        +2
        But for the magazine women all one thing, the main thing is to shout loudly, and then the grass does not grow.
      5. LSA57
        LSA57 21 March 2018 13: 41
        +3
        Quote: Vard
        Actually there was a pneumatic gun ...

        so what's the difference ??? the fact itself is important. do you think she understood which gun? she needed the fact of revenge
        1. Vard
          Vard 21 March 2018 13: 45
          +10
          When I was studying ... my classmate came to school with a razor ... they put three in the hospital ... And all because he was humiliated by the whole class ... The fact that this is a common phenomenon in schools and no one is fighting , it is a fact...
          1. Sauron80
            Sauron80 21 March 2018 14: 52
            0
            And he did the right thing, only he understands it.
        2. Simargl
          Simargl 21 March 2018 13: 51
          +2
          Quote: LSA57
          do you think she understood which gun?
          Is it written that she is mentally retarded?
          You also need to know where you shot: I chose the places competently, otherwise I did not have to ask to hold.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 21 March 2018 13: 47
      +6
      Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
      Why do Russians need such news from abroad?

      but in the USSR they wrote nothing at all. and the planes didn’t fall and organized crime, corruption, prostitution, drug addiction ... by the way there wasn’t any sex either laughing
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 21 March 2018 13: 52
        +4
        Quote: LSA57
        sex by the way there also wasn’t
        Out of context! Meant that we have everything for love!
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 21 March 2018 14: 05
          +2
          Quote: Simargl
          Out of context! Meant that we have everything for love!

          you in my post did not see irony?
          1. The comment was deleted.
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 21 March 2018 14: 23
              0
              Quote: Simargl
              Yes, sometimes you need a special character

              and which one? " laughing "
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 21 March 2018 14: 24
                +2
                I didn’t notice the elephant fool
        2. Letun
          Letun 21 March 2018 15: 16
          +2
          Quote: Simargl
          Quote: LSA57
          sex by the way there also wasn’t
          Out of context! Meant that we have everything for love!

          The other was meant there. Namely, that the topic of sex is not covered in the USSR. No erotic magazines, TV shows and the like. And the girl there said everything correctly, but yes, the blunt-cutters who could only laugh, pulled the phrase out of context and for decades she has been a meme and another demonstration of “how silly they were in the scoop”.
      2. sergei_55
        sergei_55 21 March 2018 14: 40
        +1
        LSA57 (Sergey) by the way there was no sex there either

        We had a birth rate.
    3. Civilian
      Civilian 21 March 2018 20: 07
      +2
      I agree. In general, "I don’t understand" what is the need for us to pour out all the guano imported from the media. "In Australia (on the moon, Mars and beyond), a drunken crane operator fell into a gutter, along with a crane." At 07.30., To a cup of coffee, probably to cheer up. I read somewhere that in many countries, the amount of negative and positive information is regulated by law.
  2. Yrec
    Yrec 21 March 2018 13: 25
    +2
    For a long time about injuries was not heard. Well, at least, not like the USA. There would not get bruised. I have a senior at the same age, hormones + children's brains. Extremely conflicting age.
    1. sergei_55
      sergei_55 21 March 2018 14: 42
      0
      I have a TT injury of 11,4. With five meters a 100J cartridge, I punched a 30mm board. Now they have limited 91J, but I think it’s hard to get off with a bruise.
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 21 March 2018 18: 57
        0
        Quote: sergei_55
        Now limited to 91j
        Interestingly, there is a difference of 11,4 rubber and 5,6 lead (the pistol will do something like this - up to 90 J)?
        1. sergei_55
          sergei_55 21 March 2018 19: 30
          0
          And you saw this rubber bullet. There is a metal ball coated with 0,5-1mm rubber. 11,4 mm bore. Bullet 11,5mm.
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 21 March 2018 20: 05
            +1
            Noble "rubber" ...
            So now I don’t understand: why can’t you allow the short-barreled to, say, 120-150 J with a half-shell bullet (so as not to penetrate deeply)?
  3. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 21 March 2018 13: 27
    +9
    The case is certainly egregious, but there are two questions: 1) to teachers - about the psychological situation in the classroom and possible collective persecution by classmates, 2) to my father: where and how this imperfection saved the injury. So there is something to be seriously sorted out ..
    1. S-kerrigan
      S-kerrigan 22 March 2018 06: 09
      0
      To father: where and how did this imperfection save the injury. So there is something to be seriously sorted out ..

      I’m not saying that “the father is not guilty,” but not so long ago I came across a debriefing of another case: the child really wanted the “gun”, but of course they did not give it to him. The child knew that at some interval, the father served the desired item. Dad did not foresee that he did this systematically, according to a schedule. As a result, the child placed a mobile phone with the recording turned on in advance, recognized the code. The sad outcome was not reached only by pure chance.
  4. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 21 March 2018 13: 27
    +15
    You really figure out the state of emergency with the use of what happened? RIA - declares about "pneumatics" of VO - about "traumatic", to the Messenger of Mordovia - it remains to go out with the heading "Put everything from Kalash sad
  5. Ermak
    Ermak 21 March 2018 13: 28
    +1
    Get lost ... Good deeds, you can’t shed some water ...
  6. Million
    Million 21 March 2018 13: 29
    +4
    Injuries should generally be prohibited!
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 21 March 2018 13: 39
      +8
      Farted in a puddle, it became easier? There was no injury there.
      And if you prohibit - forbid cars, people die from them in the country many times more than from any type of weapon.
      1. Million
        Million 21 March 2018 14: 03
        +3
        and if this girl shot your child? just like that, for no reason
        1. Sauron80
          Sauron80 21 March 2018 14: 45
          +6
          And who said she never shot? My child doesn’t cheat on anyone at school, but he doesn’t give offense either. And she apparently could not repulse the crowd of lovers to poopyram those who can not answer. So we got an answer.
          1. Million
            Million 21 March 2018 15: 14
            0
            What can I say, let everything be fine with you
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 21 March 2018 13: 49
      +3
      Quote: Million
      Injuries should generally be prohibited!

      you walk along the street at night, towards a flock of stray dogs. your actions?
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 21 March 2018 14: 00
        +8
        Quote: LSA57
        towards a pack of stray dogs. your actions?
        Gnaw the leader, become the leader.
        Injury will not help.
        But the little thing is the most that! Just not Margolin! We need a barrel without fuses, and the trigger only with self-cocking (or drum with self-cocking).
        By the way, Velodog revolvers were designed for that!
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 21 March 2018 14: 07
          +2
          Quote: Simargl
          Injury will not help.
          But the little thing is the most! Just not Margolin! We need a barrel without fuses, and the trigger only with self-cocking (or drum with self-cocking).

          belay Why not AK? belay
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 21 March 2018 18: 59
            0
            Quote: LSA57
            why not AK
            I wrote: without fuses ... fool
            And 5,45 less than 5,6 - rather weak lol
      2. Million
        Million 21 March 2018 14: 04
        +3
        in this case, I know how to act) the army taught this
  7. bardadym
    bardadym 21 March 2018 13: 37
    +8
    What a trauma, all the news speaks about pneumatics.
    And what the hell out of it do the news? Schoolchildren injured in the form of bruises! Oh horror, urgently call the prosecutor with a company of special forces!
    Is this working out the order of the Russian Guard on the topic of registering pneumatics? For a couple of thousand for a children's rug-bike - a good replenishment of the budget is planned, yes.
  8. Egorovich
    Egorovich 21 March 2018 13: 38
    0
    That's what the putrid west has taught and is teaching our young. With the Iron Curtain in our schools, this was not even possible to think about. A bad example, as we know, is contagious. Hence the results.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 21 March 2018 14: 22
      +2
      Egorovich, I should disappoint you a little: the "iron curtain" will not help if it jumps off the "coils".
  9. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 21 March 2018 13: 42
    +5
    Looks like snakes-classmates got, so she moved off the coils.
  10. bogart047
    bogart047 21 March 2018 13: 53
    +3
    but if pneumatics were forbidden, then he would come with a knife! But if the knives were banned, OH, SHI ...
  11. Monarchist
    Monarchist 21 March 2018 14: 17
    +2
    Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Seen enough zomboyaschika with news from the United States about the shooting in schools. Why do Russians need such news from abroad?

    Immediately stop the news from abroad. At the same time, we will return the Musical Kiosk from the entertainment programs, and close the rest
  12. tracer
    tracer 21 March 2018 14: 29
    +8
    What are you clinging to the children. Pleiatro that children and weapons incompatible things. Why mix? An arrogantly exemptive effort to disarm everyone and everything, still in transparent clothing, to make ALL walk. It was already like this in the early 80s when even pneuma was equated to a firearm. What good The military instructor Bailed out IZH 38 to me to go to the neighboring ravine. And I, without feeling my legs, fled from happiness in order to shoot at will. He studied and learned very well. Which by the way then was very necessary, even for some it will be difficult to imagine how. From the point of view of the law, the military instructor terribly violated the law, but from the point of view of the human, he saved my life and the lives of many of my colleagues. The medal still reminds of this. All like clowns stared at the “weapon” without seeing what the zombie man with painted whores does with our children. It is their show and pancake antics that lay down behavioral algorithms and stereotypes. There was a horse running for president. Yes, no normal person will greet her. What an example? And you are all "weapons" ... "weapons" .... There are weapons that are much worse than what burns when fired.
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 21 March 2018 14: 49
      +7
      Yes, to the pointless to explain to proponents of the ban everything and everything that kills not weapons, but people. If you wish, you can kill with your fist and a screwdriver, but according to statistics, the most popular murder weapon is an ordinary kitchen knife.
  13. Monarchist
    Monarchist 21 March 2018 14: 31
    +1
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Looks like snakes-classmates got, so she moved off the coils.

    It is a life situation. Let me give you an example: in our country, a boy from a “associative family” was studying at 1 m: the mother walked up someone’s son, she herself had a “near mind”, worked on a farm, and the boy grew up on his own. And we "beasts" * hunted Vadik, stayed for the second year, and then left somewhere
  14. Monarchist
    Monarchist 21 March 2018 14: 33
    0
    Quote: LSA57
    Quote: Simargl
    Injury will not help.
    But the little thing is the most! Just not Margolin! We need a barrel without fuses, and the trigger only with self-cocking (or drum with self-cocking).

    belay Why not AK? belay

    Then certainly all dogs kerdyk
    1. tracer
      tracer 21 March 2018 14: 49
      +1
      The small dog will not take a large dog immediately. Do not fantasize. You can hurt, hit on a tumble with the first shot of a dog running at you just above the knee never ...
  15. Monarchist
    Monarchist 21 March 2018 14: 39
    +1
    Quote: Million
    Injuries should generally be prohibited!

    Then let's ban everything. Forgot how in childhood they scolded for a slingshot? Now I remember: the district police officer took away slingshots two or three times a month and that the slingshots were transferred?
    1. Million
      Million 21 March 2018 15: 16
      0
      In my childhood, they didn’t shoot much from slingshots, they used other devices. And in order not to get in the face, they went in for sports
    2. Letnab
      Letnab 21 March 2018 15: 18
      0
      Now slingshots are not made, you can just buy ... not a single district policeman will say
  16. Monarchist
    Monarchist 21 March 2018 14: 51
    +2
    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    The case is certainly egregious, but there are two questions: 1) to teachers - about the psychological situation in the classroom and possible collective persecution by classmates, 2) to my father: where and how this imperfection saved the injury. So there is something to be seriously sorted out ..

    I must disappoint you: the case is not very rare and excesses occurred in the seventies, but then there was no pneumatics, and whoever could “figure it out”.
    With collective persecution, this is already “hotter”: this has always happened, and now in the 8th grade it’s like two fingers
  17. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 21 March 2018 15: 03
    0
    In general, you give a short barrel to the masses!
    Let's catch up and overtake America !!!
  18. Monarchist
    Monarchist 21 March 2018 15: 17
    0
    Comrades, let's calmly discuss what is so super-unusual here: did one girl jump off the coils? This has happened before. Below, comrade Vard remembered how his classmate came to the class to “disassemble” the battle, and I remembered how we “spent” the kid in 1.
    And here are a million reasons: the guys do not pay attention, or vice versa, maybe ugly, or vice versa.
  19. Z_G_R
    Z_G_R 21 March 2018 16: 04
    +1
    comments are striking for the most part. Indeed, you think the girl a little shot at classmates. Why so? Society is moving in the right direction.

    Particularly pleasing are the "pros" who are with a firearm at you))) It’s not the weapon that kills, but the man, let's resolve the weapon! In our country, everything is sold and bought, so that heaps of inadequacies will go legally with weapons, which will shoot everything in a drunken state. The current society is not brought up for carrying weapons, it is too underdeveloped yet. (or already)
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 21 March 2018 17: 35
      +2
      Quote: Z_G_R
      The current society is not brought up for carrying weapons, it is too underdeveloped yet. (or already)

      So, that’s why it’s impossible to explain. Especially if society is subject to blind consumerism. All legal guardians, driven only by their own Wishlist, argue like this: "Well, I'm fine, adequate .." Yeah, go and know. laughing Yes, even if so - for ten calm there are ten same frostbitten. However, horseradish parity. No, definitely, a bespontovy topic.
  20. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 21 March 2018 18: 20
    +3
    Letun,
    I will argue further, because you can hardly imagine what it is to shoot at a person. This is not an easy task, the more complicated the weapon, the more difficult it is to use, it is a fact.
    If you do not understand this, then I have nothing to talk about.
    1. -СтрР° РЅРЅРёРє-
      +1
      Don’t argue - it’s useless, for the most part "kungfu theorists" seem to have gathered here laughing which not only did not serve, but also did not see the shooting gallery. Return Soviet education, shooting gallery to every school and educational institution with the shooting competition from the 1 class, as it was! At the same time, the zombie worker should be cleaned of advertisements of violence, homosexuality and “thug romance” and the question of “that heaps of inadequate weapons will legally go around that will shoot everything drunk. The current society is not educated to carry weapons, it is still underdeveloped. ( or already) "will disappear by itself.
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 21 March 2018 19: 47
        +2
        The current society is not raised to carry weapons

        Unfortunately, the way it is. They think that the presence of a gunshot in a holster automatically solves all problems. But this is not so.
        There are certain rules and a culture of possessing firearms.
  21. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 22 March 2018 12: 20
    +1
    Warrior-80,
    A stab with a knife is considered to be a clean wound and it is easier to apair and save a person, unlike a gunshot, when a lacerated wound with pieces of clothing, fragments of bones

    This is if you get. And the type of weapon and caliber, distance matters. I talked about close combat, ~ 2-3 m.
    A penetrating wound with a blade in the abdomen or neck is not what I have been dreaming of all my life.
  22. jekasimf
    jekasimf 22 March 2018 18: 00
    +1
    Now I play the game "Stalker Online." Lord. Now I began to understand why suddenly a schoolboy takes an ax and goes to kill a teacher for a deuce. I am an adult. My psyche is more stable. But the children ......! There plays a lot of children. Their characters are awesome, with machine guns and a full body kit. And in these games there are no restrictions! There, shooting in the back, doing a "gop-stop 'is a common thing! And there are a lot of such games !!! For the psyche, it's early or later, the line between the game and reality is erased. Even I feel the influence of this game. Yes. Interesting, captivating. But I never shot in the human character pervym.Vot stands in my stupor and tochka.A for others it, spit on again.
    Adults. Filter your children's games. And what they spend your money on.