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Supreme State Council. Collective governing body of Russia

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After his election victory, Russian President Vladimir Putin, as you know, met with former rivals. We talked "for life" and, first of all, about the further political processes in the country, that now it is necessary to consolidate efforts so that the country really began to actively develop.


Supreme State Council. Collective governing body of Russia


One of the newsmakers (after the meeting) was Vladimir Zhirinovsky, who took third place with about 5,6% of votes. Coming out after a conversation with the president to journalists, the ex-candidate from the Liberal Democratic Party announced that he had brought to the attention of Vladimir Putin an opinion on the future system of government.

According to Zhirinovsky, the form of government can be changed from “individual” to “collegial” (“collective”). The leader of the Liberal Democratic Party believes that such a collegial body of government could be the State Council (Supreme State Council of Russia - UGSR), which would not only determine the external and internal policies of the Russian Federation, but also “elect” for a certain term the president. At the same time, the president elected inside the WGRGR would have a lower level of authority than the current president, and at the same time the authority of the parliament would increase. Here it should be noted that the speech is not about the State Council, which is already in place in Russia.

Zhirinovsky noted that “then the presidential elections in Russia would not be necessary,” referring to the option with a popular vote.

Opinions on the evaluation of the statement Zhirinovsky, as usual, were divided. One group of citizens took Zhirinovsky’s words about strengthening the role of parliament and at the same time narrowing the scope of presidential powers, either as pure populism or as unnatural for such a huge country as Russia, a proposal. Another group of Russians saw in the initiative of Zhirinovsky a reasonable grain, believing that the stake should not be made in the country for one single person for the simple reason that in a certain plan it is risky.

The problem is that stories the countries were periods of absolute power of one person (dynastic monarchy), and a collegial format of government (Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU). At the same time, the effectiveness of state administration most often depended on a particular person. As it is known, it happened that even during the de jure absolute monarchy the monarch ruled, as they wished, “collegialists”. And it also happened that the collegial body was something pseudo-collegial and amorphous, and then one person pressed the body and its initiatives for themselves. Therefore, the question is what is called an open and actively discussed.

In the meantime, the topic of collegiality or strict individuality in power is discussed, there are related issues. For example, the question of the hypothetical composition of the Supreme State Council. If the VSGR (as an assumption) can be created, then by what principle will it be formed: only smart, only beautiful or smart and beautiful? In fact, the irony here is superfluous ... Indeed, in those countries where their collective management format (at least on paper) exists, there is a developed party system. Why are there party ... Most often - one-party.

As an example, the People’s Republic of China, where the National People’s Congress and other collegial bodies are the flesh of the Communist Party of China. One can argue here, noting that China’s NPC is “only” on 72,2% and consists of CPC members. 830 people in the NPC are not members of the country's Communist Party, but are part of the so-called Patriotic united front of the Chinese people. However, this very united front is controlled by the CPC, the working department of the united front of the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party. In general, decisions are made de facto in the lap of one party, which determines the direction vector. Vaughn, the other day they voted for the indefinite presidency, having changed the constitutional clause - and everyone, almost one and a half billion, is happy, everyone is happy. Maybe there are dissenters, but in China their activity is reduced to kitchen gatherings, and therefore the Chinese "Marsh" is not expected. Where did she come from, especially before the 20 anniversary of the events on Tiananmen ...

You can, of course, argue long about what our current multi-party system differs from the Chinese one-party system with the presence of consistent opposition parliamentary factions, but still ... Maybe, indeed, nothing special is different ... How, by the way and the American system, where the largest parties, it seems, are two, but these two parties, despite the media war with each other, resemble the two halves of one whole (although why they “remind” it is, in principle, it is). That is why party taxiing in the USA looks not much different from the format of the Chinese NPC.

So, we have our own “all the same” ... There is a single speech in parliament, but with lobbying of interests in relation to individual representatives of the elites, this single speech stops, especially when it comes to the implementation of the plans and adopted laws. Accept - accepted, and execute ... One - necessarily, the other - not with the hand, for a special caste.

Therefore, it is possible to introduce at least the Supreme State Council, at least recall the "tandem" (someone else remembers? ..), even to restore the monarchy, only hardly something fundamentally will change if you do not answer the question: what goal does the state specifically seek ? This goal should be transparent and understandable, as should the list of those responsible for if this goal suddenly continues to be only on paper. It is precisely the responsibility that must first be developed on the scale of the entire bureaucratic apparatus. And how difficult it is, and no need to say. Who will take responsibility when there is always the opportunity to change his shoes in the air and call himself "the politically persecuted victim of the regime" ...
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  1. dog breeder
    dog breeder 21 March 2018 06: 05
    +7
    Discussion body! The decision must be made by Putin! (We thought, and I decided!) And according to Zhirinovsky, firewood can be broken. According to Sobchak, surrender, if you follow the logic of the Communists, then urgently need a revolution (privatization)!
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 21 March 2018 06: 15
      +25
      The experience of Moldova - the president was elected by the people and the country ruled by the country of Yusov Kodla. The people chose Putin, there is someone to ask, and from these bribes are smooth, they did not give a shit to the bushes.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 21 March 2018 06: 18
        +9
        According to Zhirinovsky, the form of government can be changed from “individual” to “collegial” (“collective”). LDPR leader believes that such a collegial governing body could become Council of State (The Supreme State Council of Russia - VSGR), which would not only determined the foreign and domestic policy of the Russian Federation, but also he was engaged in "within himself" ELECTION for a certain term of the PRESIDENT.
        Zhirinovsky noted that “Then the presidential election in Russia would not be needed”, referring to the option of a popular vote.

        Zhirinovsky is just an unscrupulous impudent! Quite insolent in old age! Namely.
        .
        Zhirinovsky all his life dreamed of becoming president of Russia! And again, on 18 of March 2018 of the year he did not succeed! Now Zhirinovsky decided to inject GDP into the idea of ​​creating a certain State Council illegitimate under the Constitution of the Russian Federation with GDP with its participation. The idea seems to be simple. Namely.

        Why change corrupt officials - the stealing heads of Russian regions? Their power in the regions can be seized in the State Council named after Zhirinovsky in their hands past Putin's hands.
        Besides.
        It’s interesting, but in the case of nuclear weapons the entire State Council named after Zhirinovsky in Russia will click on the Red Nuclear Button? Or, after all, will they be entrusted with pushing GDP to press - naturally, after a long discussion in a new, unconstitutional, illegitimate and amorphous State Council of the Russian Federation on Zhirinovsky?
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 21 March 2018 06: 36
          +8
          Zhirinovsky offers, in fact, an anti-constitutional corrupt creeping coup "above" and "above" in the country in his favor.
          I wonder what secret "skeletons" at the same time he is trying to hide from corruption disclosures in his own "closet"? Or maybe in collusion with third parties.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 21 March 2018 12: 15
            +3
            The oligarchs, in the person of their lobbyist Zhirinovsky, decided to lay the power-political layer - the State Union - between Putin as president of the Russian Federation and corrupt officials at different levels of government on the ground!
            This is a Zhirinovsky-style retaliation for GDP in its fight against clearing corruption and in power in the same regions! Moreover, if the American agent of influence Ksenia Sobchak (with her mother, Russophobic Narusova) enters it, then after a while you can forget about the existence of Russia!
            1. Anti-Corr.
              Anti-Corr. 21 March 2018 12: 35
              +11
              Quote: Tatiana
              The oligarchs in the person of their lobbyist Zhirinovsky

              Where do you get this from? belay It’s beyond common sense, Zhirik is a KGB project for creating a bipartisan system in the USSR. And the oligarchs have a completely different lobby in the person of more influential people.
              Quote: Tatiana
              This is a Zhirinovsky-style retaliation for GDP in its fight against clearing corruption and in power in the same regions!

              A masterpiece! Zhirik vs gdp ???? Zhirik-Kremlin puppet. Never mind, the Zhirik never claimed power, this is a court jester who is sometimes allowed to tell the truth in agreement with the AP. And all this trouble with the state council only touched the board until 2030 of the current president. What the hell is going on in our heads and what the worst thing is that we believe in it ....
              Read the "recycling plan of Russia" until the Internet is not wiped, educate. hi
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 21 March 2018 12: 52
                +1
                Anti-Corr. (Alex)
                Quote: Tatiana
                The oligarchs in the person of their lobbyist Zhirinovsky
                Where do you get this from? It’s beyond common sense, Zhirik is a KGB project for creating a bipartisan system in the USSR. And the oligarchs have a completely different lobby in the person of more influential people.
                Ha! After the 1995 year, I personally communicated with Zhirinovsky and his entourage from the beginning of the 1990 years. I know a lot of things about him, how he and his party work. The people there are not bad, but very, to put it mildly, "peculiar."
                Read the "recycling plan of Russia" until the Internet is not wiped, educate.
                Thanks! I will definitely look! hi
                1. Anti-Corr.
                  Anti-Corr. 21 March 2018 13: 01
                  +3
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Yes, I personally, after 1995, talked with Zhirinovsky and his entourage. I know a lot of things about him, how he and his party work.

                  I also talked with his "brothers" at the same time. only since 1995 a lot of water has flowed and the St. Petersburg "lads" turned out to be more serious, although they also helped to "emerge". Read all the same article that I outlined is very useful for understanding the layouts until 2030.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 21 March 2018 13: 31
                    +2
                    And I didn’t communicate with the “brothers”, but with the ex-GRU officers. I even, like their ideological oppositionist, even had fans among them! I won’t forget them! lol Fair! People are very good! They know how to shoot and command, but their brains are to hell! Even now they are driving ideological bullshit with patriotic sauce into the people!
                    1. Anti-Corr.
                      Anti-Corr. 21 March 2018 13: 34
                      +2
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Fair! People are very good! But their brains are to hell!

                      There were different)))) wassat good
                      Only military intelligence and office are two big differences. yes
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 21 March 2018 13: 42
                        +1
                        Anti-corr
                        Only military intelligence and office are two big differences.
                        Absolutely right! Fortunately, I didn’t communicate with the “lower classes”. And the ex-GRU officers are still very culturally female. I can not complain about them! Real suitors, friends and comrades!
        2. ML-334
          ML-334 21 March 2018 07: 29
          0
          He is not impudent, he is Yusovsky lackey.
        3. alex86
          alex86 21 March 2018 17: 05
          +1
          What are you talking about, gentlemen / comrades? Zhirinovsky voiced the idea of ​​the State Council for Putin's perpetual rule, thus checking and preparing public opinion. You are boiling now (and not here), then get used to it, then enthusiastically accept this idea
        4. Plate
          Plate 24 March 2018 21: 36
          0
          The constitution can be changed if they want. That's just the State Council from this will not get better. Everyone will pull the blanket over himself, defend the interests of some of his group, of which he is a representative ... As a result, they will try, at least in words, to take into account the interests of everyone, but in fact, the discussion of each important issue will go on for a long, long time, which is unacceptable when quick solutions are required.
          Well, even when a lot of people gather, they become a system that can be predicted. It is clear that in the conditions of geopolitical confrontation this will be a minus. And very big.
      2. Artek
        Artek 21 March 2018 07: 43
        +12
        Quote: ML-334
        The experience of Moldova - the president was elected by the people and the country ruled by the country of Yusov Kodla. The people chose Putin, there is someone to ask, and from these bribes are smooth, they did not give a shit to the bushes.


        and what for 18 years, someone asked Putin what? No need to lie.
      3. Esoteric
        Esoteric 21 March 2018 08: 17
        +13
        Quote: ML-334
        The people chose Putin, there is someone to ask ...

        Demand from him is small. I can not understand who to ask for a non-progressive tax scale? And:
        - the calculated minimum wage in 11 rubles;
        - bloated housing and communal services tariffs and their failure to fulfill their contractual obligations;
        - compensation of Sberbank on deposits;
        - calculation of the cost of gasoline (fuel);
        - rationalism of the proposed economic formation;
        - excess profits of officials and the poverty of ordinary "state employees" ... lol
        Wait for an answer ... wait for an answer ... wait for an answer ... repeat
        1. To be or not to be
          To be or not to be 21 March 2018 09: 58
          0
          N. V Starikov says: “FINALLY PUTIN WAS AWAKEN (20.03.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX)” Nikolai Starikov

          It's time. It is high time!!!
          But. Local miracles do .. "As it became known to Kommersant, in the next few days, draft laws will be introduced in the legislative assembly of the Sverdlovsk Region to abolish direct elections of the mayor of Yekaterinburg and a new system for the formation of the Yekaterinburg Duma, which provides for a decrease in the number of deputies elected on party lists "Now the opposition mayor is Yevgeny Roizman. The election of the head of the city and city deputies should be held in Yekaterinburg this year."
          https://cont.ws/@prudent/888707
          This is a handful that will decide the fate of the regions.
          Some Heads of regions and cities simply spoil the President ?? On the ground, people, evaluating the affairs of local authorities, turn their eyes to the First Person of the State and expect him to solve their problems
          Maybe well away from her game of pseudo democracy. and local elections.
          They chose the President-let him appoint decrees to the Heads in the field. Asks them. takes off .... Then then, and with Him, demand may be
      4. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 March 2018 08: 48
        +18
        Quote: ML-334
        The people chose Putin, there is someone to ask

        O-HA-HA-HA !!!!!!
        Yeah, ask him something :)))))
        1. ML-334
          ML-334 21 March 2018 09: 04
          +4
          I believe that the time has come to ask. Putin is not Stalin, however much we would like, he doesn’t have that full power, but the progress has begun, they have begun to plant and fire. Now we have shown great confidence and hope for the result, and we ask you to have no doubt.
          1. atos_kin
            atos_kin 21 March 2018 11: 10
            +13
            Quote: ML-334
            Putin is not Stalin, no matter how we would like, he does not have that fullness of power

            Respected! Putin has all the "fullness" of power. He even appoints judges, which under Comrade Stalin never happened. But to compare the Person with its imitation should not be. Stalin is a great creator, not a talker mumble.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 21 March 2018 11: 39
              +1
              Quote: atos_kin
              Quote: ML-334
              Putin is not Stalin, no matter how we would like, he does not have that fullness of power
              Respected! Putin has all the "fullness" of power. He even appoints judges, which under Comrade Stalin never happened.

              Putin does not have full power!
              Let us compare the Soviet Constitution with the pro-Western colonial Constitution of the Russian Federation (officially sponsored by Sobchak, Shakhrai, Alekseev and members of the Constitutional Court, but in fact the CIA)
              And Zhirinovsky proposes to make GDP - i.e. the central government in the country - the non-elective "undercover" government - is even less! Turning central power into a swan, cancer and pike!

              1. atos_kin
                atos_kin 21 March 2018 12: 13
                +6
                Quote: Tatiana
                Putin does not have full power!

                Something doesn't match your nameplate.
                The Constitution (Basic Law) of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (approved by decree of the Extraordinary VIII Congress of Councils of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of December 5, 1936):
                Article 105. The Supreme Court of the USSR and special courts of the USSR are elected The Supreme Soviet of the USSR for a period of five years.

                The Constitution of the Russian Federation
                Article 83
                President of Russian Federation:
                f) submit candidatures to the Federation Council for appointment to the position of judges of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation, the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation; appoints judges of other federal courts;
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 21 March 2018 12: 21
                  0
                  atos_kin.
                  Something doesn't match your nameplate.
                  Article 83
                  President of Russian Federation:
                  f) submits to the Federation Council candidates for appointment to the post of judges of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation, the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation; appoints judges of other federal courts
                  ;

                  To represent is not to appoint.
                  Moldova has the same constitution as the Russian Federation. And where are we the realization of the powers of the current pro-Russian Moldavian president in the power of the country?
                  1. twviewer
                    twviewer 21 March 2018 12: 34
                    +3
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    To represent is not to appoint.

                    But can you appoint someone who is not represented?
                    no
              2. Anti-Corr.
                Anti-Corr. 21 March 2018 12: 13
                +10
                Quote: Tatiana
                Putin does not have full power!

                This is not true, he has absolute fullness of power, as the past elections showed.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 21 March 2018 13: 06
                  +2
                  Quote: Anti-Corr.
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Putin does not have full power!
                  This is not true, he has absolute fullness of power, as the past elections showed.
                  The highest authority in the country, according to Russian law, is in fact with the leaders of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. You can call it "dual power." Namely.

                  After ratification of the Bialowieza Accords, Russia turned into a colony of a unipolar world led by Washington. One of the most important instruments for managing Russia as a colony was the new credit and financial system (CFS) of Russia.
                  On 20 of December 1991, the State Bank of the USSR was abolished. All assets, liabilities and property of the USSR State Bank on the territory of the RSFSR were transferred to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. A few months later, the Central Bank of the RSFSR (Bank of Russia) was renamed the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia).
                  The very first version of the law "On the Central Bank of the RSFSR (Bank of Russia)" was adopted on December 2 of 1990 of the year, after Yeltsin B.N. by a huge margin, he won the election and became the first president of Russia, and after six months of his presidency he signed Federal Law No. 1990-02.12.1990 of 394. The law was modified and supplemented, but in general its essence was preserved.
                  The betrayal of the national sovereignty of the Russian Federation in the field of finance was laid down and reinforced in its very Constitution of the Russian Federation of December 12 1993, which was compiled under the EBN under the patronage of Washington.
                  Officially, the authors of this colonial Constitution of the Russian Federation from the 1993 of the year were: Sergei Shakhrai, Anatoly Sobchak, Sergey Sergeyevich Alekseev and the Constitutional Meeting of the Russian Federation.
                  The Constitution of the Russian Federation from 1993 of the year only consolidated the colonial position of the Russian Federation in this matter.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 21 March 2018 13: 19
                    +1
                    Quote: Anti-Corr.
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Putin does not have full power!
                    This is not true; he has absolute fullness of power.
                    When we say that the Constitution of the Russian Federation of 1993 of the year only consolidated the colonial position of the Russian Federation in this matter, we turn our attention to the Federal Law "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation". Namely.

                    When, for example, they are now talking about the criminal activities of the Central Bank of Russia with regard to the same financing of the military-industrial complex and with respect to its national sovereignty, then all this follows from Russian legislation. For example.
                    First of all, from the Constitution of the Russian Federation, Article 15, paragraph 4. Etc.
                    Constitution of the Russian Federation Article 15:
                    4. The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes rules other than those prescribed by law, then the rules of the international treaty apply.
                    Those. if the Central Bank in Russia is offended by a bad Government, it goes somewhere “beyond the hill” and begins to complain to the international court there. And the international court of law takes precedence over our Russian one.
                    Federal Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation 7:
                    The Bank of Russia, on matters within its competence by this Federal Law and other federal laws, issues normative acts binding on federal bodies of state power, bodies of state power of subjects of the Russian Federation and local authorities, all legal entities and individuals in the form of instructions, provisions and instructions .
                    The rules for preparing regulations of the Bank of Russia are established by the Bank of Russia independently.
                    If the Central Bank decides to collect all metal money from all over the country, it can issue such a decree and everyone will be required to comply with it.
                    Federal Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation 21:
                    The Bank of Russia and the Government of the Russian Federation inform each other about proposed actions of national importance, coordinate their policies, and hold regular mutual consultations.
                    Reminds an agreement between two countries.
                    The Bank of Russia advises the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation on a schedule for the issue of government securities of the Russian Federation and repayment of the state debt of the Russian Federation, taking into account their impact on the state of the banking system of the Russian Federation and the priorities of a unified monetary policy.
                    As we see, the Central Bank does not belong to the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, and he only advises him.
                    Federal Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation 22:
                    The Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to the Government of the Russian Federation to finance the deficit of the federal budget, the Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to finance the deficits of budgets of state extra-budgetary funds, budgets of constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local budgets.
                    If the state does not have enough money, it cannot take it from the Central Bank. The state may go bankrupt when the basements of the Central Bank are clogged with gold and currency.
                    But the law does not say that the Central Bank cannot lend to other states.
                    Federal Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation 23:
                    Federal budget funds and funds of state extra-budgetary funds are stored in the Bank of Russia, unless otherwise provided by federal laws.
                    The Central Bank is independent, not liable for obligations, but all state money goes to it.
                    The powers of the Bank of Russia to service the state debt of the Russian Federation are determined by federal laws. The Bank of Russia and the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, if necessary, conclude agreements on conducting the above operations on behalf of the Government of the Russian Federation.
                    If the Government of the Russian Federation wants to do something in the financial sector, but it itself cannot. Because the money is all in the Central Bank, and he disposes of it. The government asks the Ministry of Finance to conclude an agreement with the Central Bank and only when they agree do they begin to work together. And if you don’t agree?
                  2. Anti-Corr.
                    Anti-Corr. 21 March 2018 13: 29
                    +3
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    The highest authority in the country, according to Russian law, is in fact with the leaders of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. You can call it "dual power."

                    Tatyana! I have great respect for you and I’m not even going to argue about the colonial status, and I guess what you are referring to, the pvv leader of the national movement. Am I right? He is fighting and can’t overcome .... And the Far East through the TOPs to the tea houses, who gave?
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 21 March 2018 14: 12
                      +1
                      Anti-Corr.
                      I guess what you are driving at, pvv is the leader of the national movement. I'm right? He fights and can’t overcome .... And the Far East through the TORA to tea houses, who gave?

                      Yes, I do not justify the GDP! All Russian liberoids from one boat! Although the GDP over time by age, still as a manager changes along with the situation in the country in her favor.
                      It’s just that the existing colonial legislation in the country, it seems, is impossible under the current comprador power in any way to cancel peacefully. And it is unlikely that GDP will do this. For this, he does not even have his own political party. His strength is now in authoritative support for the reviving army and power structures.
                      At the same time, it’s interesting that he went to the presidential elections as a self-nominated candidate, i.e. distanced himself in some way from United Russia and DAM. This among the people went to him in "+".
                      And for the revolution in the country, I do not see any real parties and political leaders at all at all. The political conditions for the socialist revolution in the country simply did not ripen. Here, somehow I have such an opinion!
            2. ML-334
              ML-334 21 March 2018 12: 38
              +4
              Something tells me that this period will be very tough. Under EBN laws and the Constitution changed for thieves and in order for words to not contradict deeds you need to change the Constitution (return of the death penalty), you see, you’ve completely lost your fear and where can you get these stinking liberals. Do not rebuild Russia by decrees alone.
        2. Freeman
          Freeman 21 March 2018 17: 30
          +3
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Quote: ML-334
          The people chose Putin, there is someone to ask

          O-HA-HA-HA !!!!!!
          Yeah, ask him something :)))))

          am What ?! And ask! In all severity! And let him just try not to answer!

          Well, that’s the same. wassat laughing
      5. Sunjar
        Sunjar 21 March 2018 13: 38
        0
        Quote: ML-334
        The experience of Moldova - the president was elected by the people and the country ruled by the country of Yusov Kodla. The people chose Putin, there is someone to ask, and from these bribes are smooth, they did not give a shit to the bushes.


        And I would also recall the events of 1993 of the year.
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/События_сентября_—_
        October_1993_year_in_Moscow
        with the confrontation of the Supreme Council and the president. And here, dear visitors of VO, I draw attention to the very possibility of confrontation, otherwise you will attack me that I am defending Yeltsin.
      6. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 21 March 2018 15: 47
        +2
        Quote: ML-334
        The experience of Moldova - the president was elected by the people and the country ruled by the country of Yusov Kodla. The people chose Putin, there is someone to ask, and from these bribes are smooth, they did not give a shit to the bushes.

        laughing To ask? Well try ask with authority!
      7. Alf
        Alf 21 March 2018 21: 06
        +3
        Quote: ML-334
        The people chose Putin, there is someone to ask,

        Many people managed to ask Putin for 18 years? I don’t remember something for Putin to answer for something, he always has a lot of reasons to turn arrows on someone.
    2. Artek
      Artek 21 March 2018 07: 51
      +16
      Putin must be made to report on previous statements, for example
      -Doubling GDP -This is not done
      -when Putin came to power, he swam in full about a “decent life”, but 25 million people in the country live in POVERTY, but a hundred billionaire oligarchs buy cars for hundreds of thousands of dollars, yachts for millions of dollars, real estate abroad.
      Why is Putin not responsible for his words? Therefore, there should be a governing body that would force the president to keep his word.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 21 March 2018 09: 40
        +3
        Quote: Artek
        he swam in full about a "decent life"
        A decent life ... How do you measure the dignity of your life? In the presence of your car and motor boat? In their price? Many people lead an unworthy life, having expensive cars, yachts and even more. Is a major driving in the center of the city in a rotten stubborn condition on an expensive car living worthy? You are confusing something, and Putin has nothing to do with it. It’s pointless to advise you immediately to deal with the complex concept of the dignity of human life, you need to start small.
        Quote: Artek
        Putin must be forced to report
        You can first force yourself to fill in your knowledge gaps at the elementary school level: in particular, to master the algorithm for finding test words, then it will be easier for you to report Putin. Did you skip school because of Navalny?
        1. Artek
          Artek 21 March 2018 10: 48
          +10
          Quote: Stanislav
          Quote: Artek
          he swam in full about a "decent life"
          A decent life ... How do you measure the dignity of your life? In the presence of your car and motor boat? In their price? Many people lead an unworthy life, having expensive cars, yachts and even more. Is a major driving in the center of the city in a rotten stubborn condition on an expensive car living worthy? You are confusing something, and Putin has nothing to do with it. It’s pointless to advise you immediately to deal with the complex concept of the dignity of human life, you need to start small.
          Quote: Artek
          Putin must be forced to report
          You can first force yourself to fill in your knowledge gaps at the elementary school level: in particular, to master the algorithm for finding test words, then it will be easier for you to report Putin. Did you skip school because of Navalny?


          arctic fox, there are still entities who need to be explained what a decent life is, to do nonsense and to explain stupid things, that I will not be especially one who belongs to the category of those involved in the information support of the current government in this place.
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 21 March 2018 12: 09
            +2
            Quote: Artek
            to explain to the stupid what it is I will not
            That's right! It's not yours to "interpret." Although, you don’t even know how to be rude, where to interpret it.
        2. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 21 March 2018 12: 42
          +7
          Quote: Stanislav
          A decent life ... How do you measure the dignity of your life?

          As the Spanish Communist said Dolores Ibarruri: “It is better to die standing than to live on your knees”Are you talking about this?
          Quote: Stanislav
          You are confusing something, and Putin has nothing to do with it.

          Colleague, how so? He has been in power for 18 years and always has nothing to do with it ..? And who does it? Name these reptiles, together with you we will tear them to shreds!
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 21 March 2018 15: 51
            +3
            smile And he will not answer you. He would like to answer, but does not know these reptiles, which must be torn to pieces. But Putin, no, no! He is like Caesar's wife, beyond suspicion.
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 21 March 2018 16: 00
            +4
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            Are you talking about this?

            You answer a question with a question. Are you really from there?
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            He has been in power for 18 years and always has nothing to do with it ..?

            This is called "pulling out the text horse" yes
            Quote: Stanislav
            You are confusing something, and Putin has nothing to do with it

            Camrad Artek (he used to be called differently), indeed, everyone got there. And Putin, in fact, is not involved in this.
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            together with you we will tear them to shreds

            Call Crow, with her and tear laughing
          3. Stanislas
            Stanislas 21 March 2018 17: 43
            +2
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            “Better standing to die than to live on your knees,” are you talking about this?
            Not me, but Dolores Ibarruri. I mean that you need to value your life very low in order to measure its dignity not in your deeds and actions, but in tugriks and horsepower.
          4. Stanislas
            Stanislas 21 March 2018 18: 05
            +1
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            He has been in power for 18 years and always has nothing to do with it ..?
            Why always? Somewhere with it, somewhere not, but it rules with dignity. There are a lot of things in our Augean stables, because for many decades many horsemen have been pooping, but now it has become easier to breathe, and we are grateful to Putin for that. What is so surprising about this?
      2. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 21 March 2018 15: 48
        +1
        laughing Yes, this advice is even better for Putin, all claims that are flying to him now will be directed to the council!
        Quote: Artek
        Putin must be made to report on previous statements, for example
        -Doubling GDP -This is not done
        -when Putin came to power, he swam in full about a “decent life”, but 25 million people in the country live in POVERTY, but a hundred billionaire oligarchs buy cars for hundreds of thousands of dollars, yachts for millions of dollars, real estate abroad.
        Why is Putin not responsible for his words? Therefore, there should be a governing body that would force the president to keep his word.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 21 March 2018 08: 36
      +11
      Yeah. Matvienko will become the chairman of the council, and Volodin, Zhirinovsky and Zyuganov will be her deputies. And the button deputies are former deputies of the Duma. What will change besides raising their salaries? winked
      1. Artek
        Artek 21 March 2018 08: 58
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        Yeah. Matvienko will become the chairman of the council, and Volodin, Zhirinovsky and Zyuganov will be her deputies. And the button deputies are former deputies of the Duma. What will change besides raising their salaries? winked


        Now everything is so bad in the country that any change in power can be a move for the better.
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 21 March 2018 15: 52
          +2
          smile Why did you vote for Putin? That would be a normal change, not vote for him and it would be the best!
      2. Romey
        Romey 21 March 2018 09: 02
        +7
        Quote: siberalt
        Yeah. Matvienko will become the chairman of the council, and Volodin, Zhirinovsky and Zyuganov will be her deputies. And the button deputies are former deputies of the Duma. What will change besides raising their salaries? winked

        Yes, and there is no need for these. Better immediately the most worthy and honorable citizens: Chubais, Vekselberg, Abramovich, Aven, Deripaska and others from the Forbes list. When the cat has nothing to do, everyone knows what he is doing?
    4. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 21 March 2018 10: 19
      +2
      Zhirinovsky is simple as VALENOK. But also cunning like an old LIS
      1. GDP as President received great confidence of the people with a very large turnout. This is a huge potential for making the most important decisions and putting them into practice as the President of the Russian Federation. Now he can always rely on the opinion of the PEOPLE in the confrontation with oligarchic, financial and local groups.
      Compare the results of confidence in the President of the United States and the Russian Federation in their last election
      2. Naturally, not everyone in Russia likes it. That the president has received such confidence of the people. Here Zhirinovsky is needed with his proposal of the State Council for the Government of Russia. Why -naturally to control the first. and containing his impulses
      But. Does Russia need a KUZNETS! "We do not need a KUZNETS" !!
      1. Anti-Corr.
        Anti-Corr. 21 March 2018 12: 05
        +8
        Quote: To be or not to be
        This is a huge potential for making the most important decisions and putting them into practice as the President of the Russian Federation. Now he can always rely on the opinion of the PEOPLE in the confrontation with oligarchic, financial and local groups.

        Do not wait, there will be nothing, he has neither a team nor desire.
        1. twviewer
          twviewer 21 March 2018 12: 50
          +1
          how is it not?
          1. Anti-Corr.
            Anti-Corr. 21 March 2018 13: 09
            +1
            Quote: twviewer
            how is it not?

            Did you mean capitalism or wanted to enlighten me with the work of K. Semin? wink
            1. twviewer
              twviewer 21 March 2018 14: 05
              +3
              Quote: Anti-Corr.
              Did you mean capitalism or wanted to enlighten me with the work of K. Semin? wink

              The capitalists are his team, what should it: carve itself?
              Or maybe cancel the VAT ?! laughing
              1. dSK
                dSK 21 March 2018 20: 37
                0
                The results of these elections were predictable, the next - a natural “complete” growth shift: Zyuganov and Mironov had already “jumped off”, Zhirinovsky had the last “round”. Who will rule the country in 2024 only God knows.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 21 March 2018 21: 09
                  0
                  Quote: dsk
                  Who will rule the country in 2024 only God knows.

                  And Putin.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 21 March 2018 06: 06
    +4
    Well, historically, we return to the same management system that has always existed in Russia.
    The problem is that in the history of the country there were periods of absolute power of one person (dynastic monarchy) and the collegial format of governing the country (Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee). Moreover, the effectiveness of public administration most often depended on a particular person.

    What the hell is Western-style democracy in our conditions, it is simply impossible and it will inevitably lead the country to collapse ... therefore, centrifugal tendencies are evident ... the main thing is always to maintain a reasonable balance of power of one person and the state apparatus over the whole country.
    1. AA17
      AA17 21 March 2018 10: 38
      +3
      Dear Alexey. We all understand well - Zhirinovsky’s statements are used to study public opinion. I think they are starting to prepare a worthy departure for GDP after the next term of government, maybe earlier. After all, someone will have to answer to the people? And it’s hard to ask a collegial body.
  3. Amurets
    Amurets 21 March 2018 06: 10
    +4
    [quote] According to Zhirinovsky, the form of government can be changed from “individual” to “collegial” (“collective”). The LDPR leader believes that such a collegial governing body could be the State Council (the Supreme State Council of Russia - the Supreme Council of the Russian Federation), which would not only determine the foreign and domestic policies of the Russian Federation, but would also be engaged in the "election of" the president for a certain term. / quote]
    In-in, the seven nannies have a child without an eye. It is necessary to introduce strict personal responsibility for decisions and laws adopted and in order to introduce criminal penalties for failure to comply with decisions and decisions. And the State Duma must adopt clear and concise documents so that officials do not write by-laws that turn the law so that the law becomes or is not feasible, or the essence of the law is turned inside out.
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 21 March 2018 11: 51
      +1
      Amur (Nicholas) Today, 06:10
      [quote] According to Zhirinovsky, the form of government can be changed from “individual” to “collegial” (“collective”). "
      March 18, 2018 on the Zhirinovsky site from 4 52.::", we select the Supreme Ruler of Russia, the owner of the Russian land ""
      Earlier and repeatedly in 2014, "Zhirinovsky invited Putin to become Supreme Ruler"
  4. Baloo
    Baloo 21 March 2018 06: 15
    +8
    And the thought, and the government? How many organs do you need to rule the country? Maybe the party does not need organs, but competent, conscientious, efficient specialists?
    1. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 21 March 2018 08: 37
      +9
      But what about Sechins, Kudrins, Grefs. They are after all SPECIALISTS! They are competent and conscientious, and they are probably very efficient.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 21 March 2018 15: 56
        +3
        smile You forgot Millerov, Abramovich, Medvedev, etc. The name is Legion !!!
        1. Vladivostok1969
          Vladivostok1969 22 March 2018 01: 30
          0
          There are so many of them that you will not remember everyone yes
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  6. populist
    populist 21 March 2018 06: 23
    +6
    According to Zhirinovsky, the form of government can be changed from “individual” to “collegial” (“collective”)

    Great laugh. laughing lol wassat
    The goal here is the same - to formally leave the government, but with all the fullness of power to stay. crying negative After 24 years and 5 terms, officially sitting on top will somehow not be comme il faut. No. bully
  7. Cxnumx
    Cxnumx 21 March 2018 06: 28
    +5
    one more useless "organ" we really miss. why the he and his party in parliament are needed if he can’t do anything? receive money?
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 March 2018 07: 10
    +3
    If each time we discuss what Zhirinovsky said or suggested, then the entire volume will be devoted only to this. A person is offended by the election results, therefore, immediately gave birth to his idea of ​​governing the state.
  9. Victor_B
    Victor_B 21 March 2018 07: 15
    +1
    Brad!
    Zhirik in his repertoire.
  10. awl
    awl 21 March 2018 07: 17
    +4
    Then why do you think? Federation Council why? Then to reorganize these "apparatuses" they even create a council of councils over councils, and things are still there negative
  11. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 21 March 2018 07: 29
    +8
    Ahhh ..... another reincarnation of the "Seven Boyars" .... so it is and so Russia runs under the name "inner circle" ....
  12. Oleg Kozlov
    Oleg Kozlov 21 March 2018 07: 42
    +4
    If you follow the words of Zhirinovsky, we will all end up in a madhouse with a manic desire to wash our boots in the Indian Ocean. Not even a straitjacket will help.
  13. Esoteric
    Esoteric 21 March 2018 08: 03
    +5
    The author is well done, he said everything:
    ... even to restore the monarchy, it is unlikely that something will fundamentally change if you do not answer the question: what purpose does the state specifically seek? This goal should be transparent and understandable, as should be clear and responsible list for if suddenly this goal continues to remain only on paper ...

    We came to such a system, when there is no one to say: "I led you, I will be responsible for everything." All the glory of victories goes to the intended purpose, but for obvious mistakes (such cannot be called mistakes), there are no owners for dead-end ideas. Only eternal lamentations against a large number of pensioners, a small population, vast territories, world crises, sanctions, and God knows what ...
    1. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 21 March 2018 08: 44
      +6
      In a “decaying” Europe, governments (cabinet ministers) resign after one. The reasons are more than trivial — the inability to fulfill their promises. We have everything on the contrary. would not interfere with experimenting and making money. And responsibility is not for them
  14. akudr48
    akudr48 21 March 2018 08: 08
    +5
    As friends, you do not sit down, there will be no sense for the people.

    Change in shape while maintaining content.

    The ruling class of the cooperative lake and its friends will remain as they were.

    And for the electorate and political ancients, yes, a movement.
  15. XII Legion
    XII Legion 21 March 2018 08: 15
    +17
    Just the State Council is not enough?
  16. Gardamir
    Gardamir 21 March 2018 08: 38
    +1
    Well, once voiced by Vladimir Volfovich and supported by Vladimir Vladimirovich, then so be it.
  17. trophy
    trophy 21 March 2018 08: 38
    +9
    Yeah, Putin, Miller, Sechin, Shuvalov and the Vekselberg brothers (or whatever the hell knows), and their iPhone is the secretary of the council. The most that. As a tear to the top, the Chinese from yellow will become green.
  18. FID
    FID 21 March 2018 08: 45
    +4
    I apologize, but Putin has already sat out for Brezhnev ... A little more, and ... he will sit out any autocrat! Hurray and YES HELLO ... (State Council or something else ...)
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 21 March 2018 09: 10
      +1
      Quote: SSI
      A little more, and ... he will sit out any autocrat!

      Korolev of Great Britain Victoria and Elizabeth II will not sit, but he has already created Semibestolism.
      1. FID
        FID 21 March 2018 09: 15
        +4
        Queens - they are still women (they want to write women, but resisted) ... Soon Stalin will sit out ...
  19. capitosha1rang
    capitosha1rang 21 March 2018 09: 09
    +1
    That's fine!
    State Council - Politburo of hundreds of sensible associates.
    State Council - and that’s it! State Duma deputies, senators with all their assistants travel to their places of permanent residence and begin to engage in the creative work that they have been calling for for the past eighteen years.
  20. Shrekk
    Shrekk 21 March 2018 09: 26
    +2
    "... Maybe there are dissent, but in China their activity has been reduced to kitchen gatherings ..."

    This is about our discussion of articleswink
    Criticism, controversy, etc., and efficiency = 0.
    What will change in the country from our online confrontation? laughing
    It'S Nothing!
    How many of you, critical of the president, have done something to change the country? There are such? Where is the opposition? A working opposition? There is? There, even Bulk, funny, helpless, blathers something, beats in hysteria, aching, but this is at least some kind of action.
    And which of you did something, declared itself? Which of you people will follow, if only knock on the clave on this site fellow
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 21 March 2018 10: 24
      0
      Quote: ShrekK
      What will change in the country from our online confrontation?
      Contradictions, they say, can become the driving forces of development, if properly organized for this purpose. If the site administration does not do this by changing the interface to the needs of a full discussion for the development of the entire community of forum participants, then everyone has the opportunity to organize contradictions personally for themselves, to develop their own picture of the world in the focus of the military-political conflict and communication skills, including methods of argumentation, literacy letters, etc.
      1. Shrekk
        Shrekk 21 March 2018 10: 34
        +1
        AND! There it is !!! Well go ahead, develop, etc. laughing
        And I’ll go to work "in the galleys" for the good of the Motherland.
    2. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 21 March 2018 16: 00
      +1
      Quote: ShrekK
      "... Maybe there are dissent, but in China their activity has been reduced to kitchen gatherings ..."

      This is about our discussion of articleswink
      Criticism, controversy, etc., and efficiency = 0.
      What will change in the country from our online confrontation? laughing
      It'S Nothing!
      How many of you, critical of the president, have done something to change the country? There are such? Where is the opposition? A working opposition? There is? There, even Bulk, funny, helpless, blathers something, beats in hysteria, aching, but this is at least some kind of action.
      And which of you did something, declared itself? Which of you people will follow, if only knock on the clave on this site fellow

      You know, I would agree with you, but I will say for myself, that is how passionaries arise, who in fact have nothing to lose! And if this is multiplied by the deterioration of the situation in Russia, then everything becomes possible, even impossible so far!
  21. Mengad
    Mengad 21 March 2018 09: 30
    +6
    Knowing the real intensity in society ... and knowing how he came to power .. In Buryatia with a population of more than 984 .. more than 000 million people voted attention! laughing He wants to pacify the masses with such promises, and that would be former presidential candidates. and their supporters took his power. Who, who, and he probably knows the real figures of the vote ... All his attempts ... and words for not thinking people. He, as President, has long disappointed me.
  22. Alex66
    Alex66 21 March 2018 09: 32
    +4
    Immediately Krylov’s fable is recalled: but you friends don’t sit down, everyone is not good at musicians. Who will be on the board? Workers, peasants - there is hardly any money for the election, so there is no one to represent their interests. Again, the advice may fall on the enemies of Russia Narusova-Sobchak, Chubais. The oligarchs of Rotenberg and Vekselberg may fall. How do you gather in a council of people who will think about Russia, and not about their factory. It is forbidden for us all to have equal rights, you can bark your people like Makarevich, you can lie to Stalin as Narusov. The president can be re-elected, but the council cannot be picked up without external help or destruction of the country.
  23. Midshipman
    Midshipman 21 March 2018 09: 51
    +1
    All right Zhirinovsky says. Today's election system has at least three fundamental flaws. 1 - she is extremely vulnerable to outside influences. 2 - it does not allow to leave at the helm of an effective leader for any long time. 3 - each new president, unlike, for example, the production director or the president of a corporation, is essentially a random person, essentially a cat in a bag. A man from the street who suddenly receives the full power, most likely not understanding anything at all in the management of the state. And it’s not just some kind of mono-ethnic Switzerland or Israel there, but Russia, about which the same instranians say that it is governed by God himself, otherwise it is not clear how it exists. In Russia, these shortcomings completely cover all democratic virtues. The system of power in Russia should be much more monumental and conservative than in small European democracies in order to ensure sustainable development for the foreseeable future. Such a system can only be realized on the basis of a monarchy - sole or collective. Naturally, the collective is preferable, so it does not depend on a specific person. So, the highest State Council or the “new political bureau” is a completely natural and only acceptable way to develop our political system.
  24. Shrekk
    Shrekk 21 March 2018 10: 12
    +1
    Quote: Mengad
    a population of more than 984 .. more than 000 million people voted attention!

    Give a source. Only specifically with 3 million.
  25. Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov 21 March 2018 10: 17
    0
    Control over the work of officials is entrusted to the Kremlin administration. The president has all the powers to influence officials responsible for the execution of his decrees, orders and instructions. The Criminal Code provides for liability for misconduct, for non-performance or improper performance of official duties. Demand from the President! To force the President to work efficiently and for the benefit of the people, an Effective Interdependent system of checks and balances between the branches of power is needed, that is, the constitution needs to be improved.
  26. Mengad
    Mengad 21 March 2018 10: 30
    +1
    Quote: Midshipman
    All right Zhirinovsky says. Today's election system has at least three fundamental flaws. 1 - she is extremely vulnerable to influence from outside. (What you built and got. You will not deny that Putin’s entourage has close ties and interests on the external front?) 2 - it does not allow to leave at the helm of an effective leader for any long time. (Well, practice shows that it’s possible ... for the 2nd decade, a man went to rule laughing According to a certain part of the population of the Russian Federation, it lives up to their hopes. laughing ) 3 - each new president, unlike, for example, the production director or the president of a corporation, is essentially a random person, (That's right, you need your own person who will give guarantees of criminal immunity to the previous ruler .. at the moment this is Putin laughing ) in fact - a cat poke. A man from the street who suddenly receives the full power, most likely not understanding anything at all in the management of the state. And it’s not just some kind of mono-ethnic Switzerland or Israel there, but Russia, about which the same instranians say that it is governed by God himself, otherwise it is not clear how it exists. In Russia, these shortcomings completely cover all democratic virtues. The system of power in Russia should be much more monumental and conservative than in small European democracies in order to ensure sustainable development for the foreseeable future. Such a system can only be realized on the basis of a monarchy - sole or collective. Naturally, the collective is preferable, so it does not depend on a specific person. So, the highest State Council or the “new political bureau” is a completely natural and only acceptable way to develop our political system.
    (Who will be the Chairman of this Council? laughing )
    1. Midshipman
      Midshipman 21 March 2018 11: 01
      +1
      It doesn’t matter who will chair. Not the fact that Putin, by the way - he still needs to live out, taking into account age. It is important that everything doesn’t fly to tartaras at one point if in the next election our partners drag some Navalny into the presidency.
    2. Midshipman
      Midshipman 21 March 2018 11: 39
      +1
      "(What you built and received. You will not deny that Putin’s entourage has close ties and interests on the external front?)"

      And what else could he build in the conditions of liberal democracy, as a basis? To build something else, you must first change this basis, for example, on what Zhirinovsky is talking about.
  27. Mengad
    Mengad 21 March 2018 10: 35
    +2
    Quote: ShrekK
    Quote: Mengad
    a population of more than 984 .. more than 000 million people voted attention!

    Give a source. Only specifically with 3 million.

    Yes, for God's sake dear) Please laughing Wikipedia .... the population of Buryatia-984 511 [1] (2018), Quote from an article ... ,, "At 10:00 (05:00 Moscow time) local time in Buryatia, 588 thousand 066 people voted, that's 15,33 , XNUMX% of the total number of voters, "the press center of the election commission said. ,,

    More on TASS:
    http://tass.ru/politika/5041007
    laughing
    1. Shrekk
      Shrekk 21 March 2018 12: 25
      +1
      The agency can write anything, all the more so in the Wikipedia about TASS it says "The news agency was criticized for publishing false and dubious information",
      and the site of the Central Election Commission shows another
  28. Mengad
    Mengad 21 March 2018 10: 58
    +3
    Quote: Artek
    arctic fox, there are still entities who need to be explained what a decent life is, to do nonsense and to explain stupid things, that I will not be especially one who belongs to the category of those involved in the information support of the current government in this place.

    Dear? Do not pay attention .... he has a concept of dignity .. listed in his post laughing I just hope that this person is young .. and not yet intelligent .. but since he’s already in years? Your attempts are in vain .. laughing
  29. V
    V 21 March 2018 11: 04
    0
    The election of the president throughout the country is high time to cancel. I will explain the reason.
    If you want to find out who made the best furniture and who is No. 1 in this matter, then they collect professional carpenters who produce furniture (a chair, for example). These professionals find out among themselves which of them is better.
    The chief manager of the country should be chosen by other, professional, managers, and not the entire population of the country, which, for the most part, understands nothing in the administration. It should be the same in the regions.
    It used to be in the USSR with the Central Committee of the CPSU. The Chinese have taken this form of management from us, which they successfully use. In our country, at the moment, there is a huge shortage of professional and responsible managers.
    Therefore, I believe that there is a sound grain in the proposal of Vladimir Zhirinovsky.
    1. seal78
      seal78 21 March 2018 17: 58
      0
      To do this, you first need to change the Constitution and abolish capitalism. And with this, difficulties arise all the time, all the more, given the softness of Putin, who does not want harsh and quick changes, but wants evolution.
  30. Midshipman
    Midshipman 21 March 2018 11: 11
    0
    Quote: Mengad
    Quote: Midshipman
    (That's right, you need your own person who will give guarantees of criminal immunity to the previous ruler .. at the moment this is laughing for Putin)
    (Who will be the Chairman of this Council? laughing )


    For good, the immunity of the president should be guaranteed by the constitution. Otherwise, it will not make any sense to him in his own state - it’s better to sell more expensive to Americans and live for the rest of your life where is a thread in Miami
    under the protection of the American army, as Gorbachev does, for example, other post-Soviet presidents and politicians ..
  31. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 21 March 2018 11: 12
    0
    Vulvovich suffered! State Council of collective irresponsibility! The liberal’s blue dream is to steer, and so there is nothing for it!
  32. Mengad
    Mengad 21 March 2018 11: 19
    +1
    Quote: Artek
    Quote: siberalt
    Yeah. Matvienko will become the chairman of the council, and Volodin, Zhirinovsky and Zyuganov will be her deputies. And the button deputies are former deputies of the Duma. What will change besides raising their salaries? winked


    Now everything is so bad in the country that any change in power can be a move for the better.

    There will only be new hangers-on to the feeder ... and if you got into a wolf pack, then be kind howling for a wolf ...
  33. Mengad
    Mengad 21 March 2018 11: 23
    +2
    Quote: Vortex
    It used to be in the USSR with the Central Committee of the CPSU. The Chinese have taken this form of management from us, which they successfully use. In our country, at the moment, there is a huge shortage of professional and responsible managers.

    Professionals. Are ... but the trouble is that among them .. few people are interested in the future of Russia, they are more interested in their own benefit.
    1. Midshipman
      Midshipman 21 March 2018 11: 50
      +2
      Absolutely right. It’s not enough to be a professional. One must also have a vital or at least mercantile interest in the power of one’s own state as a guarantor of the life and well-being of one’s and one’s descendants. Such interest can give for example a mat. values ​​concentrated in the host country and reliably protected by this country. Better yet, the common fund is like that of criminals, when entry is free, and exit is only to the other world. Better yet, both.
    2. seal78
      seal78 21 March 2018 18: 05
      +1
      But under capitalism, it doesn’t happen in any other way. He makes everyone think only of his own gain.
  34. Mengad
    Mengad 21 March 2018 11: 41
    0
    Quote: Artek
    Putin must be made to report on previous statements, for example
    -Doubling GDP -This is not done
    -when Putin came to power, he swam in full about a “decent life”, but 25 million people in the country live in POVERTY, but a hundred billionaire oligarchs buy cars for hundreds of thousands of dollars, yachts for millions of dollars, real estate abroad.
    Why is Putin not responsible for his words? Therefore, there should be a governing body that would force the president to keep his word.

    All of this, of course, is good and right, but the question is how to do this? Let’s go out in pickets ... one at a time? laughing Otherwise you’ll get clogged up, an unauthorized rally, The will of the people above all, freedom of speech, democracy and all that laughing The suite makes the King ... that’s all ...
  35. Tektor
    Tektor 21 March 2018 12: 00
    0
    Tips are good when people included in it have the same high awareness and intellectual abilities ... i.e. all-Putin's level. And where to get them? And there are two situations where the opinion of all is the same, then there is no problem. And if the opinion of at least one does not coincide with the others on a difficult issue, then what should be done ??? If consensus is required, the decision will be delayed. And if the majority rule is in effect, then any aspect can be ignored and an incompetent decision made ... Summary: any advice is an incompetent brake.
  36. iouris
    iouris 21 March 2018 12: 07
    +4
    Quote: "... the American system, where the largest parties, it seems, are two" End of quote.
    There are more and more signs of the victory of the cargo cult in a single country. You "checkers" or "go"? What does the number of “largest” parties and, in general, the party have to do with governing the country. For proper management you need: the right goal, sufficient resources, a management method, management algorithms, a management system (institutes), a system for assessing and managing quality.
  37. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 21 March 2018 12: 44
    +2
    Zhirinovsky, as always, "burns" ....
    In principle, it’s enough to see the Initiatives passing in the Duma and how the LDPR votes “For” and “Against” to understand who is in front of us ...
  38. Glory1974
    Glory1974 21 March 2018 12: 44
    +1
    The country needs a collegial governing body - this is unequivocal. Otherwise, we are doomed to constant "slides": either Stalin, then Gorbachev, then Brezhnev, then Yeltsin-drunk. The president’s personality must be balanced so as not to make mistakes. It is necessary to discuss not about whether it is necessary or not, but about what it should be.
    1. iouris
      iouris 21 March 2018 15: 06
      +1
      Quote: glory1974
      The country needs a collegial governing body - this is unequivocal.

      Putin + Sobchak + Zhirinovsky + Yavlinsky = collegial governing body for any country - this is archival ambiguous. The problem is not collegiality.
      Justification of responsible decisions requires the processing and analysis of large amounts of objective data on the state of the environment and the control object. This requires intelligence. If a person and human intellect do not cope, then the process of government requires automation. Man determines the goal. If the goal is wrong, it doesn’t matter how the control system works - it will end badly. Colleagues must share the same values, otherwise management is impossible.
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 21 March 2018 20: 48
        0
        Putin + Sobchak + Zhirinovsky + Yavlinsky = collegial governing body for any country - this is archival ambiguous.

        we have such an authority. This is the State Duma. In theory, all sectors of society should be represented in it.
        [quoteIf the goal is wrong, it doesn’t matter how the control system works] [/ quote]
        It's not about goals, but about ways to achieve a goal.
        If a person and human intellect do not cope, then the process of government requires automation.

        If you didn’t write automation, but “artificial intelligence”, I would agree
        Justification of responsible decisions requires processing and analysis of large amounts of objective data

        And here I agree on 100%. one person cannot do this. He will make mistakes. Therefore, decisions must be worked out collectively, fewer options for error. but when the decision is made it must be forced to be carried out, and this is the president’s task.
  39. Stas1973
    Stas1973 21 March 2018 13: 12
    +2
    What, again, the Politburo recreated?
  40. raw174
    raw174 21 March 2018 13: 35
    +1
    On the one hand, one head is good, and two is doubly good, but on the other hand, when making collective decisions, responsibility is also collective, which means that there will be no guilty person! I voted for Putin, and there is a demand from him!
  41. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 21 March 2018 15: 46
    +3
    Aleksey, the main thing in Zhirinovsky’s statement is to snatch the people’s choice of president! The authorities are well aware of their precarious position and anticipates further deterioration of the situation in Russia. So, through the mouth of Zhirinovsky, a well-known populist whose task is to voice the Wishlist of the current Russian comprador authorities, he is trying to make a Wishlist convenient for himself. Will look at the reaction of citizens.
    And by the way, that I did not notice individual responsibility in the current government, rather a complete liberal irresponsibility.
  42. Shrekk
    Shrekk 21 March 2018 17: 18
    +1
    Quote: andrej-shironov
    You know, I would agree with you, but I will say for myself, that is how passionaries arise, who in fact have nothing to lose! And if this is multiplied by the deterioration of the situation in Russia, then everything becomes possible, even impossible so far!

    So it turns out that Putin didn’t do such a damn thing for 18 years, but the opposition as a capable institution didn’t take place either ... Although raising a country and organizing an opposition is like comparing an elephant and a fly ...
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 22 March 2018 08: 40
      0
      smile Dear Shrek! Not at all! I wrote and am writing that Putin has done a lot for the country, but it's time to leave! Since new challenges have come that neither he nor his Government can solve! And not capable since 2008! But since he does not leave at the “height”, vague doubts begin to torment me that he and the oligarchs are a single whole, acting together and the people of Russia are on the sidelines!
      1. Shrekk
        Shrekk 22 March 2018 08: 48
        +1
        One lady, from the Navalny camp, when asked why Putin should leave emotionally answered "Tired!" Iron argument)))
        Putin is not eternal, naturally he will leave. What worries me more is what those who are trying to become president are, for example, this year.
        Show me the one who in the next 6 years will accept new challenges and solve all problems.
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 22 March 2018 08: 54
          +1
          smile Well etozh bulk, what to take from them! Does it make sense to quote these wretched? I am more worried about something else, and why am I saying that Putin should leave: knowing the cyclical nature of the historical processes, and that Putin’s rule is clearly associated with Brezhnev’s time, I’m afraid that someone like a marked one will come to Sena Putin soon and then it will probably not be possible to save the country! Therefore, I write that Putin had to leave back in 2008, that he was replaced in the crisis by perhaps the best, the appearance of which will not lead to the next marked. I need to break these cycles!
          1. Shrekk
            Shrekk 23 March 2018 09: 07
            +1
            My opinion is the opposite of yours, but I don’t see any reason to argue. Anyway, everyone will remain with his own view of these things. The President is elected, life goes on, but if you want to try to break something, go for it!
            1. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 23 March 2018 09: 14
              0
              good I agree, our argument will be about nothing!
  43. seal78
    seal78 21 March 2018 17: 31
    0
    especially before 20-th anniversary of events on Tiananmen ...

    The author has problems with arithmetic laughing
  44. rennim166
    rennim166 21 March 2018 17: 46
    0
    Zhirinovsky’s proposal makes sense. He perfectly understands that the rating of the "new" resident is overblown. And that means that the “trust” of the people was more likely from hopelessness and general fooling. Therefore, it is rather a step towards a compromise in order to avoid a civil war. However, I am not at all a supporter of Zhirinovsky in the general case.
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 21 March 2018 18: 10
      +1
      Quote: rennim166
      Zhirinovsky’s proposal makes sense

      This is not his suggestion.
  45. Vladimir Vasilich
    Vladimir Vasilich 21 March 2018 18: 06
    +1
    Your words are wonderful, the author. As if from a cellar got out. And this is after the elections, where, as a sworn ENEMY of this government, they soaked, spread rot, humiliated and SILENT the representative of the same "compromising" party, the Communist Party. Nothing of the kind "in this and this world ..." is not recalled.
    And secondly - the idea and programmatic demand for the restoration of the Supreme State Council and giving it decisive powers are recorded in the Grudinin program, and this is a consolidated opinion of the Communist Party, the NPSR and the Left Front. So the clown again cloned other people's thoughts and ideas. That's why he is a clown.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 21 March 2018 18: 25
      +1
      Vladimir Vasilich New Today, 18:06
      - the idea and the programmatic demand for the restoration of the Supreme State Council and giving it decisive powers are recorded in the Grudinin program, and this is a consolidated opinion of the Communist Party, the NPSR and the Left Front. So the clown again cloned other people's thoughts and ideas. That's why he is a clown.

      The idea of ​​creating the State Council as an authority has been known since 2016 as the “New Putin Plan”.
  46. Mengad
    Mengad 21 March 2018 20: 07
    0
    Quote: Mengad
    Knowing the real intensity in society ... and knowing how he came to power .. In Buryatia with a population of more than 984 .. more than 000 million people voted attention! laughing He wants to pacify the masses with such promises, and that would be former presidential candidates. and their supporters took his power. Who, who, and he probably knows the real figures of the vote ... All his attempts ... and words for not thinking people. He, as President, has long disappointed me.

    Py SUS But they talked ... here is your result ...
    The leader of the Communist Party Gennady Zyuganov commented on the result of the Communist Party candidate in the presidential elections in Russia, Pavel Grudinin, the correspondent of "Gazeta.ru".

    “As for the percent, I don't care! He received excellent interest! ”Said Zyuganov.

    Separately, he noted that the residents of the settlement of the state farm named after him gave their votes to Grudinin. Lenin.


    “They brought in a thousand people there, but even they failed to break public opinion and the collective,” Zyuganov said. He also promised Grudinin a “bright future” and support.

    Both Grudinin and Zyuganov argue that the presidential campaign was dirty, but both recognized the victory in the election of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    link https://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2018/03/19/n_
    11304613.shtml
  47. gippernano
    gippernano 22 March 2018 19: 04
    0
    Zhirinovsky let the button sew on his forehead, fasten his lip.