The first carriers of Avangard hypersonic blocks will be the UR-100N UTTH missiles

Soviet-made intercontinental ballistic missiles UR-100N UTTH (according to the US classification - SS-19 Stilet) will become the first carriers of hypersonic planning blocks of the newest Avangard complex, reports TASS, citing a source in the Russian defense industry complex

At the beginning of the 2000-s from Ukraine, the order of 30 UR-100N UTTH liquid missiles was supplied from Ukraine, after the collapse of the USSR, they were stored in warehouses in the open state - that is, practically new, capable of standing on combat duty for several decades. Some of these missiles will become the carriers of the first series of hypersonic planning warheads over the coming years. In the future, such units will be installed on a heavy rocket RS-28 "Sarmat"

- said the source

He also noted that the power of a nuclear warhead installed on a new hypersonic combat unit - “more than 2 megatons in TNT equivalent” - is quite enough for the complete destruction of “especially important targets”.

Earlier it was reported that the newest hypersonic strategic missile system "Avangard" will be adopted no later than 2019.

Comments

[NEXUS]

That is, there is already a serial new method of counteraction and retaliation. But UR-100N UTTH is an old missile, and it turns out that the measure is temporary. But the fact that the Vanguard is in such a hurry to put on duty suggests that they will not hesitate either with the new carrier.

[Simargl]

Quote: NEXUS

But UR-100N UTTH is an old rocket, and it turns out that the measure is temporary.

It seems to me that because of this they want to be "disposed of" with benefit.
Interestingly, the barmaley will be shot?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Simargl

It seems to me that because of this they want to be "disposed of" with benefit.

I don’t think. The governor will be utilized by launching satellites according to the Dnepr program. And here they will put an old missile on alert ... this is clearly a temporary measure until the new carriers go into series.

[Muvka]

A lot is not required from a rocket. Only bring the block to the desired height. Do not even break through the missile defense system. Therefore, if the missiles are in excellent condition, since they were not fueled, why not?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Muvka

Much is not required of a rocket. Only bring the block to the desired height. Do not even break through the missile defense system.

Nothing that this rocket is liquid? Remind you how much it is on duty and what are the requirements for storing fuel for this rocket?

[Muvka]

The article also says that they are in an empty state with us.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Muvka

The article also says that they are in an empty state with us.

In the article they can write anything ... the point is to put Vanguard on an empty, non-refilled carrier then? What then can this carrier endure without fuel?

[Muvka]

They put the block, load it into the mine and fill it up. What is the problem then? And there will be a practically fresh rocket. Or do you think that they will not be able to create / will not find fuel for the rocket that was made at Khrunichev? (To be honest, I did not understand how to write correctly)

[NEXUS]

Quote: Muvka

And there will be a practically fresh rocket.

Will not be. Based on your logic, the same Voivode could be upgraded and poured fresh fuel before turning blue ... however, you got confused on the creation of Sarmat, spent the money, again the institutes worked, the industry too ... I repeat, these missiles have been around for decades they’ve already passed the deadlines. They set the governor, if sclerosis doesn’t fail me, with an expectation of 20 years (I can be slightly mistaken).

[Muvka]

Because the voivode is filled, and the fuel is very active. Therefore, it is impossible to use them further. Well, the means to overcome missile defense on the Voivode are already somewhat outdated.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Muvka

Because the voivode is filled, and the fuel is very active.

Do these rockets fly on water?

[antivirus]

about overcoming - ROMANIANS AND POLES WERE NOT AFRAID..IM SHAKING FROM FEAR IS IMPOSSIBLE - WILL FALL OUT AND IN SMALL COUNTRIES IMMEDIATELY TO LIVE

[Piramidon]

Quote: NEXUS

the same Voivods could be upgraded and filled with fresh fuel until blue in the face ...

"Voivode" how many years are on alert? So "Stilettos" can stand as much. At least until the advent of the Sarmatians

[Simargl]

Quote: NEXUS

Based on your logic, the same Voivode could upgrade and fill in fresh fuel before turning blue ...

This is your strange logic!
The missiles were on conservation, they have not seen fuel yet.
Yes, they will not be able to stand on duty for a full settlement period, but this is not required of them: they are required to provide experimental-combat operation, until the appearance of a serial missile.

[Non liberoid Russian]

NEXUS,
if it was stored in a non-refilled form at the warehouse, then after checking for fatigue, the hull and tanks will be installed in the mine, refuel, mount the avant-garde and put on combat duty ... it does not contain kerosene, but mixed chemistry, it will stand idle for a long time in an encapsulated state how many engineers will measure ... may extend

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: NEXUS

Nothing that this rocket is liquid? Remind you how much it is on duty and what are the requirements for storing fuel for this rocket?
Reply Quote Complaint

chainsaw, does not want to work on last year's fuel ...- fact.

[Solomon Kane]

Old but alive .....
Utkin launch vehicle is very ...... Payload weight - 8800 kg, Maximum range, km - 11000 + 16000, Very "lively" for the output of the shock block ......
And the fact that they were in "canned food", but in a "dry" form ..... so nothing will become to them ......
They will light at the start, we are not cutting the 404th good for scrap.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Solomon Kane

And the fact that they were in "canned food", but in a "dry" form ..... so nothing will become to them ......

Oh ... filling, storage, and so on ... do you think that time does not affect them? At the same time, giptil is very poisonous muck and very unstable, and all these dances with refueling of old rockets, in which the body itself can be (walls) thinner than necessary, do not cause optimism.

[Muvka]

You are really kidding me. MISSILES WERE STORED IN A WAREHOUSE - NOT FOR THE RIGHT BEFORE WE ARE! What could eat there?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Muvka

You are really kidding me. MISSILES WERE STORED IN A WAREHOUSE - NOT FOR THE RIGHT BEFORE WE ARE! What could eat there?

Dear, I'm not scoffing ... ICBM is not an iron or even a toaster. Storage is a good thing, but I repeat, firstly there are certain standards that must be observed. Perhaps with these missiles everything is fine, but maybe not. How to check?

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Muvka

You are really kidding me. MISSILES WERE STORED IN A WAREHOUSE - NOT FOR THE RIGHT BEFORE WE ARE! What could eat there?

Dear, I'm not scoffing ... ICBM is not an iron or even a toaster. Storage is a good thing, but I repeat, firstly there are certain standards that must be observed. Perhaps with these missiles everything is fine, but maybe not. How to check?

So we will not check with you? Or are we?
Then why panic? Tanks, pumps, turbines without the influence of aggressive muck are stored normally. It is possible with inert gas filling. Here, electronics, plastic, rubber ages almost the same as refueled and empty. That's what you need to root for. Do you still have memory blocks on ferrites? Here is a headache, if anything happens to them. Try to restore this miracle. And how to replace the firmware, because the initial coordinates of the Stylet is Ukraine?

[Kisso4kin]

And you do not understand ...

[Solomon Kane]

So the article explicitly states:

stored in warehouses in an empty state - that is, practically new

, will they be?
The "harness" with the "body kit" checked, tucked and go!
Moreover, they are in the TPK .....

[NEXUS]

Quote: Solomon Kane

The "harness" with the "body kit" checked, tucked and go!
Moreover, they are in the TPK .....

I do not claim that the missiles are "defective" .. I say that they are old! The carrier for a new class of strategic weapons was not chosen for the first freshness. That is, clearly a temporary measure. Apparently they decided not to wait for Sarmat, but to bet on what is.

[Piramidon]

Quote: NEXUS

in which the body itself can be (wall) thinner than necessary

And why should it be thinner? Are they riveted by eye without any calculations?

[Moore]

Quote: NEXUS

And then they put the old missile on alert

They are already standing.

Quote: NEXUS

Remind you how much she is on duty and what are the fuel storage requirements for this rocket?

From the time limit to the time limit stand themselves and do not buzz.
In general, I think the journalist got a little confused and gave out an experienced shooting for preparing a statement on the database.
Although if you think about it, Topol-M without significant alterations of ground equipment was thrown into the silos from the 35th. What is the point of occupying an ultra-protected mine with a monoblock missile in modern realities - HZ. Maybe they’ll return to them the 35th with the “Vanguard” - they will still stand. Titans-2 in the USA won how long they stood ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Simargl

Quote: NEXUS

But UR-100N UTTH is an old rocket, and it turns out that the measure is temporary.

It seems to me that because of this they want to be "disposed of" with benefit.
Interestingly, the barmaley will be shot?

American experience? They used all the junk in Iraq. Although hitting the barmaleas with hypersound is, it seems to me, a little unreasonable. If only, again, in front of the "partners" show off - "but I have a cho!" ....

[NEXUS]

Quote: Zoldat_A

"but I have cho!" ....

I’m more interested in - “they didn’t show” ... because if it’s such as Vanguard, they showed nuclear KR, why are we developing this, which is more secret than that?

[Zoldat_A]

Andrew, !

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Zoldat_A

"but I have cho!" ....

I’m more interested in - “they didn’t show” ... because if it’s such as Vanguard, they showed nuclear KR, why are we developing this, which is more secret than that?

I think we can always find something to surprise our "partners" with .... Uncles, apparently, do not spit on the ceiling ... Years through 3-5, if America thinks up something like this, we will have them again pleasantly "please".

[NEXUS]

Quote: Zoldat_A

In 3-5 years, if America thinks up something similar, we will pleasantly “please” them again.

Alex.
A very true saying-the war is won by the TEACHER!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: NEXUS

A very true saying-the war is won by the TEACHER!

Well, with the introduction of the Bologna system and the Unified State Examination, it became tight with teachers, but the Soviet traditions still exist in the design bureau and when the "masters" come to the design bureau, they either do not take root there or are quickly impregnated with Soviet leaven.
In my post-Army life, I began a civilian biography in an organization that worked closely with the military-industrial complex. On KB, which at the beginning of the 90's were still Soviet at 100%, I had seen enough. And it was precisely these Soviet orders that helped them survive to this day. I speak not from my words - two neighbors in the country are the same old stumps as I do - sometimes we recall the past for a “glass of tea” ...

[midivan]

Quote: Simargl

Interestingly, the barmaley will be shot?

He also noted that the power installed on the new hypersonic warhead nuclear warhead “More than 2 megatons of TNT” is enough to completely destroy “critical goals.”

I hope you joked

[Simargl]

Quote: midivan

I hope you joked

Are the mushrooms growing on the Kura during firing? You can throw a few tons of TNT.

[midivan]

Quote: Simargl

Are the mushrooms growing on the Kura during firing?

Just the fact of use will raise such a howl, the earth will shake

Quote: Simargl

You can throw a few tons of TNT.

Well, TNT can

[Simargl]

Quote: midivan

Just the fact of use will raise such a howl, the earth will shake

A week on Twitter to show how a rocket is prepared - they won’t even notice.

[rotmistr60]

And I was always confused by the "sources" of the media commenting on classified information. If it’s just not in the interests of the Russian Defense Ministry?

[Chills]

Of course in the interests. the analogy suggests itself. Weighing on the wall, never used for its intended purpose, the belt has a powerful educational effect on the growing shift.

[Solomon Kane]

But the topic of sources has always been contradictory and not always objective .....
It is not a fact that these LV data were already used to test the technical parameters of the unit and test launches ...
They have already been used, but the topic has just "surfaced" ....

[Piramidon]

Quote: rotmistr60

And I was always confused by the "sources" of the media commenting on classified information. If it’s just not in the interests of the Russian Defense Ministry?

And who gives these media outlets? Of course MO. And dosed, as much as necessary

[vaaaaadik]

Nice to read such news

[Observer2014]

Source: UR-100N UTTH missiles will be the first carriers of Avangard hypersonic blocks

Well, why not !? And it’s not so long ago at VO that some suffered because of the freezing of the Barguzin project
Do not consider it an insult. I just want to remind you that I am right then in this matter

[NEXUS]

Quote: Observer2014

Do not consider it an insult. I just want to remind you that I am right then in this matter

Are you sure that the Barguzin project was frozen?

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: NEXUS

Are you sure that the Barguzin project was frozen?

Considering how MO "merged" the information about the "not particularly" successful launches of "Zircon", setting up a prototype "Barguzin" on the database will not cause much surprise ....

[Corsair0304]

In the early 2000s, about 30 UR-100N UTTKh liquid rockets were delivered from Ukraine for "gas debts", after the collapse of the USSR, they were stored in warehouses in an empty state - that is, practically new ones that could stand on combat duty for several decades. Part of these missiles will become the carriers of the first series of hypersonic planning warheads

Those. not even 30 Vanguards coming soon? It’s not thick .. Apparently something props up, since for the “Vanguard” they put the UR-100UTTKh as a temporary measure.

[Fedorov]

Not my photo, but it's worth considering, it's just Poplar. Not even "M", but Sarmat missile defense does not even turn its tongue.

[Egorovich]

Good luck to fear aggressors !!! And there, “Sarmat” will not take long.

[san4es]

The images of Roscosmos show the launch of the UR-100N / RS-18 ICBM from the Baikonur Cosmodrome (October 22, 2008).

The performance characteristics of the rocket UR-100N UTTH
Combat alert
November 6 1979 city
Number of steps 2+breeding block
Fuel stored liquid
Launcher type silo launcher with gas-dynamic launch
Number and power of warheads MIRV 6x750 kt
Mass of the head part / thrown weight 4350 kg
Maximum range 10000 km
Autonomous inertial control system
Software accuracy 920 m
Length 24.3 m (complete with container)
Maximum diameter 2.5 m
Starting weight 105.6 t
Fuel mass 93.1 t
Nitrogen tetroxide oxidizing agent
UDMG fuel
Thrust remote control (sea level / vacuum) 1842 / 2038 kN (first stage)

[Sergey-8848]

When journalists pronounce the word “about 17 pieces,” I really want to give mathematicians (and the order of arithmetic) to their teachers. Journalists are not to blame, they were simply underestimated. They made higher educational institutions, invented specialties. Where can they go now, only in the tongue-tied "journalists" Zamastrahansk-TV "

[Muvka]

NEXUS,
Are you kidding or slowing down? The voivode has been refueled for decades. And these missiles are dry.

[Nikolaevich I]

Well .... as a temporary measure ..... the only question is: how temporary. BB "Vanguard" has a weight of 2 tons and "noticeable" dimensions. By the weight of the thrown cargo, the UR-100 "pulls" on the 2 of the Avangard block; but, given the dimensions of the “Vanguard”, most likely it will “take” the 1 block ... “Sarmat” can be “oriented” to the 4 blocks by the weight of the loaded combat load; but, most likely, the 3 battle blocks .... It is encouraging that we decided "complete" the active protection of mine launchers (Mozyr system) ...

[mark1]

NEXUS,
The missiles are stored in an unfilled condition, the tanks are filled with nitrogen under pressure, the missile is inspected before being installed in the mine, the tanks are refueled and oxidizing, are amplified and the rocket rolls out to a position and can stand on the DB for 15-25 years. The warhead is installed after installing the rocket in the mine.

[Alexey-74]

In general, I think so far it is better not to spread our developers about the "Vanguard", otherwise the media will quickly blow all the secrecy ...

[voyaka uh]

You can just say anything about them, because
there will not be many more (and are unlikely to be at all).
They are no better than conventional warheads of ICBMs: much more complicated in design
and less accurate.

[Voyager]

Sorry, but where will your data about be from, accuracy and so on?

[voyaka uh]

Which was required to confirm. Carriers for for these
There are no planning warheads. Since they are much larger than usual
warheads. Under them Sarmat can adapt when he will
ready. And put on combat duty rusty missiles lying down
in stock for 20 years?
And the strategic arms reduction treaty will not give them
to deliver. Even the voivode removed the combat units in order to free
a place for new Yars without breaking the contract.
So these Vanguards will not be another 10 years (not to mention that
they’re generally the 5th wheel in an ICBM cart.)

[Paranoid50]

Quote: voyaka uh

Even the voivode removed the combat units in order to free
a place for new Yars without breaking the contract.
So these Vanguards will not be another 10 years (not to mention that
they’re generally the 5th wheel in an ICBM cart.)

Don’t be afraid. You already ... Well, she’s like small children. This is not against you, but against international terrorism.

[Vlad Petrov]

Everything in the world is simple and affordable.
Not knowing only your six is ​​a sin.
It is criminal to deceive others.
It’s ridiculous to deceive yourself.

[slipped]

Quote: voyaka uh

And put on combat duty rusty missiles lying down
in stock for 20 years?

Herase statement.) But Nitsche, that the Rokot rocket flies and all 23 launches of the UR-100 UTTX, which is the first stage of this carrier, have been successful since 2000? You see, his rusty rockets.

Not only that, they are going to Roar-2.

[Old26]

Quote: Simargl

Interestingly, the barmaley will be shot?

Yes, a competition has already been announced for filling the vacant pilot position in the head part exclusively for shooting at barmales. Hurry up. There are still vacant places for "pullers"

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Muvka

The article also says that they are in an empty state with us.

In the article they can write anything ... the point is to put Vanguard on an empty, non-refilled carrier then? What then can this carrier endure without fuel?

I'm afraid that out of the 20 that were returned in the early 2000s, several pieces remained of power. Where in this case they will be based is unknown. The only platform adapted for this is Object 310, singular in the PR of the 13th Division. Restructuring of the remaining "alive" mines from the UR-100N UTTX has not yet happened. "Purchases" are silent about it, like "fish on ice"

Quote: Solomon Kane

Utkin launch vehicle is very ...... Payload weight - 8800 kg, Maximum range, km - 11000 + 16000, Very "lively" for the output of the shock block ......

For starters, there is no such thing as payload in the Strategic Missile Forces. There is an abandoned weight. Where everything goes from a warhead to a breeding stage, fuel reserves, means of overcoming missile defense, i.e. false goals. The real weight of warheads that can be taken, that is, what can be called at least remotely USEFUL LOAD, is something about 5 tons ...

The maximum range is again depending on the load. With a monoblock and a throwing weight of 8,47 tons - really 16000. With an RGC and an air pollutant of 8,73 tons - 11000

Quote: Muvka

You are really kidding me. MISSILES WERE STORED IN A WAREHOUSE - NOT FOR THE RIGHT BEFORE WE ARE! What could eat there?

Nothing. But electronics will most likely have to be "sorted out", as well as to check all the "rubber products" (membranes, etc.). Nobody canceled the aging of materials ...

Quote: Moore

Although if you think about it, Topol-M without significant alterations of ground equipment was thrown into the silos from the 35th.

As far as I know, they reworked the mine. She even had a different index after the alteration - 15P735-65. In the Tatishchev’s division, just 60 of the 90 mines existing there were redone.

Quote: Moore

What is the point of occupying an ultra-protected mine with a monoblock missile in modern realities - HZ. Maybe they’ll return to them the 35th with the “Vanguard” - they will still stand.

Maybe they will return it. but it is worth considering that the 35th with this block is 7 meters longer than the regular one. In the PR of the 13th division, the silos from the R-36M UTTH were redesigned for the experimental silos. And that one has more dimensions than the 35th

Quote: Solomon Kane

But the topic of sources has always been contradictory and not always objective .....
It is not a fact that these LV data were already used to test the technical parameters of the unit and test launches ...
They have already been used, but the topic has just "surfaced" ....

It is a possible option. Moreover, they transferred EMNIP a year and a half ago

Quote: Piramidon

And who gives these media outlets? Of course MO. And dosed, as much as necessary

And sometimes frank linden. What is also necessary

Quote: Fedorov

Not my photo, but it's worth considering, it's just Poplar. Not even "M", but Sarmat missile defense does not even turn its tongue.

"Poplar", clean, without the "M" has never been deployed in silos. It can only be Topol-M

Quote: voyaka uh

And the strategic arms reduction treaty will not give them
to deliver. Even the voivode removed the combat units in order to free
a place for new Yars without breaking the contract.

No need to come up with about VOEVOD. A certain number of VOEVOD was actually removed from the database so as not to exceed the ceilings. But we have a reserve in terms of deployed systems. 501 units instead of 700. In contrast to the previous contract, the missile is considered not the number of warheads with which it passed the test, but the real amount. That is, for example, on some VOEVODOM it is possible to leave for example 6 BB, and on some -10, and on the third, for example 3. And so in relation to all existing weapons systems. The only weapon system where the number of warheads is clearly stated is heavy bombers. They have 1 plane, 1 charge. The maximum is limited for B-52 to 20 charges. But in the calculations we are talking about ONE CHARGE

[Old26]

Quote: slipped

Herase statement.) But Nitsche, that the Rokot rocket flies and all 23 launches of the UR-100 UTTX, which is the first stage of this carrier, have been successful since 2000? You see, his rusty rockets.

Since 2000, there have been 26 launches. One emergency and two partially successful. In total, since the start of operation, 2 unsuccessful and 2 partially successful. so there were emergency

Quote: slipped

Not only that, they are going to Roar-2.

Oh really? Have you agreed with Petro Poroshenko?